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>Smash 3DS is only 2.1 GB Wow, couldn't you fucking

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>Smash 3DS is only 2.1 GB

Wow, couldn't you fucking Sakurai add more tracks instead of that 2 songs per stage bullshit?

Where you fucking afraid you'd run out of space?

2 motherfucking GBs, even fucking REvelations is heavier and it's about the same size as DKCR 3D

Like what the fuck is your problem, Sakurai?
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Frame rate is important
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>Where you
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>>259587725
Smash Run has exclusive songs.
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>>259587956
Framerate has nothing to do with space, mongoloid
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>>259587725
>2.1
Even Brawl had fucking 7 GB.
Smash 4 is going to suck, you faggots.
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where are you even getting this
this sounds like another "characters take up half a gig each" thing
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>>259588558
3GBs of Brawl's size were the SSE cutscenes
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>>259588558
>>259587725
Just because you have a lot of space doesn't mean that you HAVE to use it. Nintendo games usually have low memory because of the loading times. Compare loading in 3D World to loading in Tropical Freeze, then compare sizes.
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>>259588558
half of that was for Subspace
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>>259588819
So it's still twice s big as SSB3D then.
wow
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>>259587956
This. Especially for a fighting game.

Sorry your shitty 3DS can't take that much power.
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The quality of the 3ds version is not important, it's just a demo
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>>259588558
> Comparing a portable game to a console game
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>complaining about 2.1 gigs
>it's a 3DS game

Come on, /v/. Really?
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>>259589251
>one person
>/v/
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downloading a 8 GB game is very convenient
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>>259589251
they will complain about anything. as long as it has enough content to last me until the wii u version it'll be great
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>>259587725
>Smash 3DS is only 2.1 GB
How would anyone know this
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>>259589430
>/v/ as a collective
>one person

Don't act like /v/ doesn't go hivemind sometimes.
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>>259589624
In japan, people can buy download codes in retail stores that tell you how much space it takes up.
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>>259589624
>>259588676
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Gotta save room for all that DLC, obviously.
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There will be a lot stored on those little toy things
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>implying the 3DS can handle that much of memory

Enjoy your lagging in online play faggots
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OP probably never played Uprising.
And Smash 3DS has 40 compositors working on it versus 37 in Brawl. Even if it doesn't reach the 313 songs Brawl had, having two per stage and then some others exclusive to other modes, we might very well break into 200.
And we are not even thinking about the Wii U yet, even though they are brother and sister games.
OP is a gigantic faggot.
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>>259590139
Shouldn't be much of a problem since DLC isn't saved on the game cartridge.
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>What is compression

Come on now. The game's also going to be available digital, think about that for a moment.
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>>259590479
Weren't 3DS cartridges designed so software updates could actually be saved to the cartridge itself? I bet they could make it work.
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>>259590579
>Come on now. The game's also going to be available digital, think about that for a moment.
Bravely Default is 3gb and is also available digitally, i'm sure this wasn't a issue
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>>259590869
>3gb
oh wow, 900mb difference is so much
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>>259589886
how come japan has it better than us

why is japan objectiely the best place to live in the world
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>>259590869
>comparing a jrpg to a party/fighting game
2.1 is probably all that they needed.
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>>259591198
>why is japan objectiely the best place to live in the world
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>>259589430
>replies to thread
>OMG NO ONE THINKS THIS /V/ IS NOT JUST ONE PERSON GOD

faggot
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Reminder that 3DS cartridges can hold 8GBs
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>>259591063
To be more precise, 1.1gb
>>259591236
Hardly the point, just saying that "being afraid of it being too heavy since it'll be available digitally" is probably not something that concerned them
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>>259591485
What is wrong with that girl's hand
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>>259591485
Reminder that you don't have to use all that space just because it's there.

Also I'm pretty sure that there's no game that actually uses 8GB carts.
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>>259591198
Because it's comfy, and stuff works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzU9vzq6s1Q
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>>259587725
Because of the small screen, the graphics are smaller and so is the size of the game.
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>no Kenji Yamamoto
He better be in the Wii U version.
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>>259591198
You know it's only better until you leave highschool. After that there's other countries that are objectively better.
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Final Fantasy Tatics for the GBA Advance all the people were yellow

it was really bad i did not like it
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Have you ever made a fucking game?
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>>259588558
Nah don't worry. /v/ will blindly love it for a year or two. Then it will be brawl 2.0.
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>>259592854
nice meme
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>space equals quality
>not knowing about Nintendo's black magic compression

SM3DW is 1.7GB
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I pretty large portion of Brawl was the fact that there were somewhere around 258 songs (not counting minor things like character themes) for the damn thing.
It's been confirmed by Samurai that there's gonna be one or two songs per stage, as opposed to the ten.

SSE's movies also took up a huge chunk. It really seems like Samurai cut off the bullshit and focused on more core things for the 3DS, which isn't too bad, if you ask me.
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>>259592437
HEY IN THIS BATTLE, SWORDS AREN'T ALLOWED
FIGURE IT OUT, DICKHEAD
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>>259591198
If Japan is so good, why is their suicide rate so high
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>>259587725

>suprised that the 3DS is shit

No shit that an handheld with worse specs than the 30 dollar Raspberry Pi can't handle much.
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>>259591806
Have we even seen a Metroid stage for 3DS yet? He's DEFINITELY going to be in the WiiU version.

But then DKCR comes up, and I don't think we've got a DKCR stage yet.
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>>259593886
Because their culture is ass backwards
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>>259593592
>It's been confirmed by Samurai that there's gonna be one or two songs per stage, as opposed to the ten.
Was this only for the 3ds version, or for both?
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>>259594254
only 3ds, wii u gets the music thing from brawl
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>>259593886
Asian here, we have shitty cultures.
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>>259591619

What about Resident Evil: Revelations?
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>>259594419
Mister Asian, why do you have the best aesthetics, architecture, women yet the worst living conditions?
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>>259589886
>>259591198
GameStop has the option to buy download codes for Wii U and 3DS, at least in America
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>>259594254
For the 3ds version. There will be more songs on the Wii u version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUWnQu2Grs#t=177
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Super Mario 3D world, Mario Kart 7, Mario 3D land, and Super Mario Galaxy 2 were all smaller than that.
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>>259594437
Well, Resident Evil Revelations did have pre-rendered cutscenes. Seriously, that's why Brawl was so goddamn big. That and the shitload of tracks.

I believe the music itself took a little over 1GB for Brawl.
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>>259594090
>He's DEFINITELY going to be in the WiiU version.
We'll probably just get lousy Other M OST.
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>>259594437
4GB.
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>>259595060
WHAT OST? Other M has maybe two tracks in the entire game, everything else is ambient sounds with the occasional note.
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>>259587725

I'll try my best to explain it. With the game being on a smaller screen with lower resolution, files will be much more smaller.

Textures will be small on size, models have less polygons because of technical limitations so that reduces the size as well.

Music can't be as high quality so it's compressed and gets worse quality, reducing its size by a big margin.

See metal gear solid peace walker for psp. Lots of sound files because they speak alot. The models actually look very detailed for a psp game. Big worlds. Even then it's just 1.4gb.

The DS had games that were 256mb at most even if it was jammed with content (Pokemon black 2 and white 2 have alot of animals in it yet its 144.2mb)

Mario kart 7 is 1gb with 16 tracks on gamecube like quality graphics but smaller screen.

But yeah, why would you get the 3ds version instead of the wii u one.
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>>259595060
The only music that they can use is the Ridley theme, and that's decent enough as a battle track.
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>>259595060
Other M had a total of four songs. Most of which were just ambience. The credits and alternate title theme were actually pretty good though. Not Yamamoto good, but good.

We'll get Prime songs again, which he did work on.
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>>259594641
Old Japan obsessed with military power, Malaysia driven crazy by filthy Sandnigger influence, China are huge troublemakers, Korea keeps stealing Japan's culture, India always ass-backwards.
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Why are there two 2Ps?
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>>259595224
A lot of people have a 3DS and don't have Wii U
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>>259595347
>>259595216
The fuck are you on about? Most bosses have their own theme, even if they are complete and utter shit.

And we better get Prime 2 songs.
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Nintendo 3DS games are always fucking small compared to other shit.
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>>259595386
Because mario got the kill on yellow devil, so it's his explosion.

Is this bait?
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>>259588826
>low memory because of loading times
No, loading time would correspond to how much you're trying to have accessible in that timeframe (it's not as if Pokemon constantly has every single Pokemon's animations ready in the background), there's no excuse for not bumping up the size of the whole package, especially when the ceiling is 7GB.
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>>259595224
Because its fucking portable?
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>>259595509
I think we live in a wonderful time when porn has bigger filesizes than modern games.
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>>259595386
The lore deepens
Realistically it's because it shows that 2P got the last hit on the Yellow Devil
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>>259592437
how does it feel to be mentally retarded?
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>>259595684
I don't know, you tell me
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>>259594404
>>259594769
That's what I thought, so basically people are complaining for no reason. Of course the 3ds version is going to be gimped compared to the wiiu, or even wii.
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>>259591198
It will soon die to Chins and South Korea.
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>>259590318
Smash Bros 3DS won't have online
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>>259595367
This is so true.
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So it's bigger than Melee? Sweet
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>The version with mp3 player mode has less songs.
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>>259595060
>>259595216
>>259595283
>>259595347
>>259595476
Here's what I'm hoping for for Pyrosphere's track list:

Ridley's Theme (Other M), which is already in

Phantoon/Queen Metroid's Theme (Other M)

Rundas' theme (Corruption)

Lower Norfair/Magmoor Caverns (Super/Prime), either one would work

Emperor Ing Phase 3 (Echoes)
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Extra shit takes more time. They don't just dump the raw tracks onto the system, they change them to suit the audio capabilities of it. A bit rate and format that the console can do without impacting other performance, and sound that comes across properly from its speakers.

Were you bitching about the side of WindWaker HD as well?
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>>259596040
SMASH RUN EXCLUSIVE TRACKS
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>>259596012
low_quality_bait

Why would you need more space to render textures at 400x240 resolution?
THIS IS NOT A FUCKING HOME CONSOLE GAME.
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If they needed to use more space, they would have. They just didn't need it.
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Just for your information, everybody. A 3DS game card can hold up to 8GB.
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>>259596113
>speakers
Does anyone actually use those?
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>>259596024
Yeah but it will be shittier than Melee
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>>259596040
not like people can't use the MP3 application that's already built into the 3DS anyway.
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>>259596184
Sorry. Playable online. Sakurai's statements on the matter are pretty worrying.
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>>259593590
That has a lot of reused assets.
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>>259596249
see >>259591619
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>>259596374
Still low quality bait
The only thing that's unsure is if Smash Run will have online
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>>259596310
I can play online and I can play Smash Run with others.

It's already better.
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>>259596374
Nigger I can play SSFIV on the 3ds just fine, its time to drop your shitty internet provider and get some optic fiber connection.
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>>259595603
le quentin face
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>>259596310
Anything that's not a carbon copy of Melee will always be worse than Melee to you people. Sorry that different games in a series are allowed to be different in various ways.

Also sorry that you can't stop worshiping a party game as God's gift to the competitive fighting scene.
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>>259595224
>Portable
>Exclusive mode
>Way more 3DS owners than Wii U owners
>Comes out earlier
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>>259596892
It's a platformer where the platforming sucks.
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>>259596992
I dunno why people think I can only afford one of the two. The Wii U one comes out months later.
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>>259595224
console on life support, future dark
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>>259597176
>implying I won't buy the wii u as a smash machine

Other games look meh
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>>259597330
It's all subjective anyways when it comes to games people are interested in.
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>>259597330
>buying a console because of one game
hey it's your money, man.
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>>259587725

Don't 3DS carts store data in 1gb/2gb/4gb etc. intervals?
What's with the 1.9GB missing?
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>>259597525
They didn't need it.
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>>259597153
It's been 2 months since E3 and we still don't have a concrete release date for Wii U smash bros.

I'm suspecting it will be Q1 2015 which would be shooting themselves in the foot considering the amiibos are another big selling feature they need to make for Christmas holidays.
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>>259597525
This is the DD version. No cart.

>>259597330
Try Pikmin 3 maybe. It's comfy.
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>>259597504
Got 1035 hours on brawl and 1450 on melee. everyone in here loves smash. It's 100% worth it
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>>259589162
>paying 50 dollar for a demo
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>bawww my game doesn't come in uncropessed audio files of 2gbs each one bawww
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>>259597641
Probably because there's no reason to give a release date for it yet? It will obviously release before Christmas whether Sakurai wants it to or not.
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>>259597684
i'm a poorfag
it's only 10% worth it
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>>259587725
So all the MUH WASTED SLOTS BECAUSE MUH LIMITED 3DS CAPACITY was in vain?
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>>259597684
i'm afraid to see how many hours i have in each smash game.
>>259597729
it's $40.

I'm going to spend $40 on the 3ds and then $100 on the wiiu that comes with the controller adapter, and it will be worth it dammit
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>>259597330
Really, nigga?
Don't get a Wii U if the only game you want is Smash
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>>259591198
Listen here, weeb.

Japan has like the highest cost of living in the world (with video games and DVDs and such in particular they get fucked over hard which is why they often have to bundle stuff in to sell them) and despite what people assume the technology the average person uses is pretty old. Tape decks, VHS tapes, fax machines and kerosene heaters are still common but most people don't have a home computer. I'm also pretty sure that nuclear reactor still hasn't been taken care of and they're still spilling radiation into the ocean (nuclear power is a big thing there and people have been fretting for years about the safety of certain areas of the country). The population density is also pretty high, the people have a bit of a reputation for being xenophobic (especially back and forth with Koreans) and a concern in certain areas is US soldiers being cunts and abusing citizens and getting away with it because they feel like it's their right defending little old Japan.
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>>259597939
Because hardware limitations don't exist.
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>>259597939
Of course, there never were any "slots". People who insist they exist are delusional.
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>>259597986
I didn't count the hours we have on smash on dolphin emulator.

We've been starting to play project m and we love it even more. That horrible tripping is gone and moment carry out with jumps just lovely.
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>>259597939
More like it would seem they've taken sabotaging the Wii U version a step further
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>>259598010
>murrikuh still thinks it's WW2 and they're still occupying Japan

Why is this allowed? I mean, I can kind of understand having a military base there, but why are we still treating Japan like it's a small child that needs to be punished? Why can't they have their own military instead of some shitty defense force?
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>>259587725
Hey dembass, less GB means less bugy issues.
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>buying the 3ds version
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>>259595684
ples no bullying

bully free zone
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>>259588452
What are you stupid?
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>>259598479
it's in their constitution that they can't have an army so they have a "SDF".
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>>259598234
i'm not counting my hours on dolphin or at random tournament Wiis either
it's a scary thought
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>>259596139
For all you know that means like five songs.
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>Smash 3DS is only 2.1 GB

Lose all hope, fellow Ridleyfags. No way they could have fit him inside those measly 2 gigs of data.
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>>259598479
because mah american superiority and propaganda.

It's same thing with American governments telling people to stop funding nuclear shit while they themselves do it all the time
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>>259587725
It takes me about 4 hours to download 2 gb on my shitty internet, I have to be up and out to work at 5:30 am, central time on Oct 3rd. Has Nintendo announced any sort of pre-downloading? What timezone do 3DS games in the states use for 'midnight'? I want to have a digital copy of Smash when I get to work that day, to play in the break room with buddies.
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>>259598546
I like portable games
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>>259587725
MH4 is 1.7GB
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>>259598006
100% worth it I'll be satisfied with another 1000+ hours of gameplay
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>>259598546
>not buying the best version
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>>259588558
there's a shitload of unused space on wii games
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>>259598842
Get other games for that machine
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>>259598010

I really don't get this fetish of japan hating fucktard pretending to be the Japan expert.

>DURR JAPAN IS XENOPHOBIC
Classic Japan hater. You are clearly xenophobic towards Japan and you accuse the entire Japanese population to be xenophobic.
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>>259598949
Brawl used up an entire dual-layered disc. They actually had to cut some things because the game was too big to fit on it.
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>>259598546

I can't wait for the Wii U version. I'm gonna buy both. I know it's obvious exploitation but I can't help it. Nintendo has me eating out of their hand.
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>>259599070

You can blame those cutscenes. Without them it fits on a standard 4.7GB.
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>>259598758
Just leach off of the company wifi.
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>>259598479
I hear they're actually going to start having an official military soon, but regardless I'm sure they find it just as beneficial. With the state of the world today it's not like they could start shit up with someone if they wanted to and they couldn't afford to being highly dependent on importing tons of crap (another reason they need the US's assistance).
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>>259598991
might get the new zelda and the next mario 64 like game

I already helped a friend complete 3D world
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>>259599070

And it was already explained why Brawl took up so much space, dumbo.
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2.1 GB sounds is a lot for a 3DS game. I think the rerelease of Wind Waker on WiiU was pretty close to that.
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>>259599150
.. son of a bitch, you're right! I can have it downloading the whole time I'm at work if it doesn't finish up!
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>>259599148
>>259599206
The point is that there's games that use up the entire disc. There's also tons of games for other platforms that don't use up the entire disc. Do you think every PS3 game is 50GB?
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>>259599010
Yeah, totally sounded like I claimed the entire population of Japan was xenophobic huh?

I'm not claiming to be an expert, but you go ahead and refute any of my points. Sounds to be you're the guy who made the stupid assumption Japan was fairytale island and you just want to call me a meanie for saying it isn't.
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>>259599469
No. Most of them are like 4GB. MGS4 was only so big because of uncompressed audio.
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>>259599823
Most of them are 360 ports, so thats why they're mostly just 4ish gigs. If 360 used bluray or HDDVD, last gen would've been a lot different.
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>>259599010
Xenophobia is the distrust or resentment of every country outside of your own, not a specific one.
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Melee isn't even 1 GB

Melee has better graphics than the 3DS

In theory, they could stuff almost twice as much content in the 3DS version
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>>259600280
It depends, really. Most developers aren't going to needlessly inflate filesizes and such. Wasn't Demon's Souls pretty tiny? Of course, From is a low budget dev.
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>>259593886
science says that the better life quality we have, the more depressed we get
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>>259600553
>Most developers aren't going to needlessly inflate filesizes and such.
Tell that to PS4 and Xbone games ;_;
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>>259600409
>comparing a GC game to a 3DS game
>nintendo sympathists
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>>259595386
Amiibo

where have you been?
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>>259600409
Graphics might not be the issue.
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>>259600591
Why are humans such weird creatures?
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>>259600409
>Comparing GC to the 3DS
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>>259598625
He's got a good point.
Framerate is going to be effected by the quality models and tracks loaded into RAM and pumped out by the GPU at any one time, not by the total number of tracks at all.
This is the same logic as the "Anon, the computer is slow because you installed too many games" bullshit. If it's not being processed by the game at the moment, it isn't slowing anything down.
I don't think it's really a big issue, though. They're obviously concerned with keeping the game more reasonable for digital downloads.
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>>259600665
Man, The Evil Within is going to take over my harddrive...1. It's idTech. 2. It's Next Gen.
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>>259600409
I think I remember mario galaxy 2 being like 250mb
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>>259600798
The 3DS is more powerful than the GCN, look it up.
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>>259595367
>tfw no one really considers Singapore as a major asian country.

I guess we've been overly westernized.
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>>259600798
Why the fuck not exactly?
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>>259600937
more like 1.3 GB
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>>259600937
Galaxy 2 was, I shit you not. 1.337GB

So, 1337MB. People thought the leak was fake back when it came out because of the filesize.
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>>259600703
>>259600798
Their specs aren't that different.
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>>259600953
That depends on what you mean.
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>>259600795
the sooner we transcend the human body the better
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>>259587725
I can't say that surprises me. 2.1GB probably gets the game onto their most common card size which will be the cheapest which means that the game will print money for them like crazy.
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>>259600783
haha
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>>259599289
it's "normal" for a 3DS game
bravely default for example is 4 GB
most other game are 500MB / 1GB / 2GB /
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>>259601075

That's perfect
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>>259600783
speaking of yoshi
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>>259601182
>implying we want to stay in this shithole any longer than we have to
>implying being energy beings wouldn't multiply that sense of no purpose
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>>259598625
Likewise to you.
Holy shit.
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>>259601390
Smash devs didn't know what balance was and probably still don't.
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>>259591198
Unless you're non-Japanese.
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>>259601542
namco bandai are working on it, and i've heard tekken is supposed to be pretty balanced, so why not?
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>>259601542
It's retarded no matter how you look at it though.
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>>259587725
Brawl wouldn't of been that big either without all the movie scenes packed on it. Even with all the music it would barely have been bigger than Melee in needed space. Plus you have to figure that compression methods are much better nowadays.

Your technological illiteracy is showing again /v/....
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>>259591619
All the good games use 8GB carts.
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>>259590869
>>259591539
Nintendo doesn't control the size of either game.
They have completely different audiences. It's entirely possible that Square wasn't as concerned about the download size as Sora Ltd is.
To say that they have the same goals and release strategies because they're on the same system and both downloadable is ridiculous. Most the people buying Bravely Default were physical, but it's entirely possible that Sora expects most sales of Smash to be downloads.
God knows I'm buying the digital download release.
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>>259601661
Why doesn't anyone play TTT2 on the Wii U?
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>>259601390
shouldnt yoshi have grab range as an advantage?
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>>259601750
Poor inner city youth cant afford 2 consoles.
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>>259601676
>Brawl wouldn't of been that big either
>Wouldn't of
Come on. You even fucking use "would barely have" in the next fucking sentence.
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>>259601661
Fuck, man. TTT2 was so balanced that NASA could use it as a timing mechanism. It's been mine and my mates' favourite party game since it came out.
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>>259601661
The Mashima's and Bob are obviously God Tier, but besides that, the balance isn't bad.

Virtua Fighter is probably more balanced, but even then, Akira is the best character in the game. GRANTED, you know his one frames.
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>>259601542
You can never balance smash, there will always be one char better than the others, and people will still whine about that character like their ass was attacked with a reddening device.
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>>259596695
i played that version once
oh god the touch screen guiles
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So...
What the fuck is this?
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>>259588558
Fucking dumbass tourney fag, Melee is only 1.3GB
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>>259601750
>tfw I have the game on the Wii U but I can't play Tekken for shit

the nintendo costumes are awesome though
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>>259602035
Don't forget how Smash is different from other fighting games. There could be all sorts of tech people might not know about. People thought IC were mid to low at first
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>>259602260
Thankfully ice faggers arent in smash 4.
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>>259602187
Some sort of tournament mode?
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>>259602187
Irrelevant if Ridley isn't in the picture. Yes I know he isn't in, it was never even a chance he'd be in
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>>259602187
proably a rotation tournament mode.

A mode probably no one is going to play.
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>>259598010
>I took this information off the internet
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>>259598010
sounds just like good ol' britannica m8
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>>259602389
Please don't. There's a billion other threads out there.
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>>259598010
Using old tech makes me feel that Japan is so cute.
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>>259602035
all 3 smash games could actually be highly balanced with just some small tweaks. 64 is probably the most balanced, Melee could just use buffs/fixes to some of the weaker characters, and Brawl just needed to be tested for infinites/chaingrabs/broken hitboxes (snake) and some minor buffs to the mid tier and lower characters to be overall pretty balanced.
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>>259602576
>britannica
>Not Britannia

nigga what u doin?
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>>259598756
>>259598479
USAF in japan here
all american military in japan are on a curfew in apology for that. there were like two incidents of sexual assault of a japanese citizen in the past. both times were marines on tdy if I recall properly. fucking meatheads ruining everything for everyone as usual
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>>259602828
>Brawl just needed to be tested for infinites/chaingrabs/broken hitboxes (snake) and some minor buffs to the mid tier and lower characters to be overall pretty balanced.
Why was no Melee character ever banned by MetaKnight got himself banned in Brawl?
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>>259603265
because metaknight was just that much better than everyone else
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>>259603265
well, meta knight is obviously overpowered, but I forgot to mention he needed nerfs. But OTHER THAN THAT the game could easily be considered balanced with some minor changes
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>>259598758
"Midnight" would be 9 PM Pacific or 11 PM Central on Thursday, October 2nd so Eastern time could get it midnight.
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I just bought the 3ds xl bundle.
How fucked am I?
I need to systemtransfer my old 3ds and redownload the game, i still hope this comes delievered on release day because the postman usually fucks it up.
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Daily reminder that What Sakurai Thinks Matters.

Let's go over the facts:

>Jigglypuff may or may not be in the game, despite comments made on various websites about technological limitations.

>The filesize of the game is directly proportional to the bandwidth output of the 2DS, which has a 3200hz Wi-Fi antenna as opposed to the standard 3DS 3500hz.

>Many assist trophis will be running at "Interval Speed" (For every odd number of frames the game processes, a divisible number of frames will be processed for assist trophies).

>He has already stated that the game works best with a LAN Adapter.

So, before you start up with your theories based on leaks and the alleged filesize (which based on things we KNOW is likely to change), remember that What Sakurai Thinks Matters.
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>>259602179
>Normal mode
>Search fight with people with same mode
Wow, that was hard.
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Let me get this straight...people are non-jokingly complaining about the filesize being too low?
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>>259601412
>implying the heart-rending search for meaning isn't the most thrilling part of living, and that said concept's self-conflicting state as de-facto meaning of life isn't a promise of eternal joy to those lucky enough to become immortal beings
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>>259598010
no shut up its just like my precious amines!!!!!
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>>259603851
Why didn't they release Ultra on the 3DS? It couldn't handle it or they just didn't care?
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>>259603841
>>The filesize of the game is directly proportional to the bandwidth output of the 2DS, which has a 3200hz Wi-Fi antenna as opposed to the standard 3DS 3500hz.

Huh? Please elaborate.
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>>259602187
It's a 9-man tagteam battle where up to 4 players can battle each other. If you lose a stock, you'll respawn as your next character in the roster.
This picture is seen at the end where it is statistically shown which team was more dominant all around.
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>>259604969
Can they even load new characters on the fly like that?
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>>259604354
Yes I do imply that.
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>>259605350
Murikan cartoons have horrible graphics
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>>259602536
Better than no information at all.

Anyone here want to claim they've visited the damn place? But no, that wouldn't count because you'd be telling us through the internet.
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>>259605350
better kill yourself or find religion, I guess
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>>259605570
see
>>259603841

We have plenty of information straight from the horse's mouth.
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>>259605510
-and yet Rick and Morty is probably one of the top 5 greatest cartoons ever.
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>>259605147
Didn't they do that in SSE?
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>>259595367
Korea doesn't steal Japan's culture.
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>>259605846
If that was a cartoon about my girlfriend and me, it would be called "Dick in Portly."
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>>259605846
>shitty cartoon made in paint
>greatest cartoon ever
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>>259606174
Because you'd be fucking yourself?
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>>259598546
>not buying both versions
None of this "best version" horseshit.

I'm getting both versions because it's Smash and I FUCKING LOVE SMASH
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>>259606002
Indeed, although the loading time to switching the characters took some seconds, which would be aggravated on the 3DS
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>>259606002
That was a thing even in 64 for the computer at least.
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>>259598546
I'm getting it because I'm impatient as fuck and so are my friends. Some of the stages seem cool and so does Smash Run so I'll get my fill of those before the WiiU version comes out and I likely never touch the 3DS version again.
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>>259606261
Correct.
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Well this thread has it all. The American Japan expert, the weaboo defenders and the self-hating Asians who think because they are Asian they can speak for all Asian cultures.

mongolia master race
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>>259591397
>/V/
guys I found the hacker
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>>259602187
>samus on blue team
>rosalina on green team
>pikachu on red team
my autism
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>>259606924
Motherfucker I said multiple times I was no expert. Go tear down some walls.
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>>259607175
General Gorbachov, tear down this wall!
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>>259607175
If you aren't an expert than shut up about Japan.
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>>259607069
There's no yellow team and Pikachu has those red dots, Rosalina's dress is kinda greenish, but there's no reason to not put Metroid in the place of Wii Fit Trainer, at least his visor is green
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>>259598010
Japan's "cost of living" is high if you live in Tokyo or Kyoto. Go to some of the less densely populated areas, and it averages about the same as an average Euro town.

Not to mention many Japs have all that old tech because they want to spend their money on other shit

Speaking from experience, living in Tokyo was better than living in New York, San Fran, London, and Paris in every single way. Best public transit, great food, novel businesses like catgirl sextoy shop and the like, tons of entertainment, and if you have a decent paying job, you can afford the cost of the city.
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>>259606278
Are you me?
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>>259607402
>because they want to spend their money on other shit
Like what? Here in murifat land all we buy is tech and burgers
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>>259607337
Mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall you faggot!
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>>259607382
There's a difference between being an expert, completely ignorant and having some information on the topic. Nobody here is a fucking video game expert.
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>>259607402
>sex toy shop

You have one of those silicon fuck dolls Anon?
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>>259607524
Yeah, sure, what the fuck ever.
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>>259607663
I am, though.

I'm halfway through my PHD on Technology History focussing on Interactive Entertainment Media.

I'll be one of three people in the world this time two years from now who know everything about videogames.
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>>259607529
Phones, video game consoles, video games, xboxhueg Plasma screen TVs, and porn, among other things. People in Japan are more into ero shit, from what I've noticed, than 'murrica. Porn mags are bought by both genders pretty often.

There's also the cost of using trains, which can get expensive if you use them a lot.

>>259607874
Bro, I can read all the hentai I want online without having to wait for a translator. Why would I need a sex doll?
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>>259607663
Actually, I write for Kotaku and am a video game expert. I was certified at Video Game Yale University, and have my PhD in Dr. Mario and Munchakoopas analysis.
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>>259608205
>Phones, video game consoles, video games, xboxhueg Plasma screen TVs,
Those are all tech.

And consoles are dead in Japan, as handhelds are soon to be too ;_;
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>>259604793
They didn't care, no enough userbase, not enough profits, etc
I wish it would too.
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>>259608205
So can anybody who can read Japanese Why do you want a bunch of physical porn anyway?). How about because, I dunno, it would feel good to hold and put your dick in?
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>>259608519
>Consoles are dead in Japan
Most of the houses I've visited here have had at least a PS3/Wii, sometimes they have even more than that.

And the tech thing is different from appliances. Their mantra is "if it aint broken, don't fix it". That's why they have a culture of overworking themselves to death. Its got its flaws, yes but it works. That's how you end up with houses where the only cooling system is a standing fan, and the only heating system is a vaporizer or kerosene.

And let me tell you, summers can be brutal. Often the only places with good air conditioning are workplaces, which also adds more incentive to stay at work. Plus, the stay-late-because-my-boss-is culture leads to a lot of Japs playing vidya in offices.
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>>259602231
>anybody who says anything bad about smash is a tourney fag
shut up nigger
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>>259608986
You've gotta understand that stuff like that is looked down upon just like in the Western world. If someone came into my house and saw my life-like fuck doll of Mikoto-chan, they'd probably be disgusted. Porn mags are a lot more acceptable, since nearly everyone has them, and the best option, overall, is to have it all digitally.

That, and I just don't feel like upgrading. I've got enough porn to sustain me until I die, and if I get tired of watching mosaic-porn, I can always just get on Redtube.
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>>259587725
>2.1 GB

I was thinking on downloading it as soon as it got up in the store goddamn
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>>259609069
>pointing like 6 fans at myself right now
every other fucking building has AC why not the places where people actually live

yeah japanese have old as fuck tech because they just don't throw anything away, not because they don't have better tech available
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>>259609069
>Most of the houses I've visited here have had at least a PS3/Wii, sometimes they have even more than that.
So why is the perception that consoles are dead in Japan?
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>>259609482
>>I was thinking on downloading it as soon as it got up in the store goddamn
Considering the eShop couldn't survive Awakening coming out, the chances of it being down for Kerfuffle's launch are 100%. And watch, people will still be surprised when it happens 2 months~ down the line.
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>>259609069

> Their mantra is "if it aint broken, don't fix it"

not the first time i've heard this. i can relate to it in some ways
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>>259609685
i have no idea
every japanese game store I've ever been in has had a robust console section and plenty of active customers perusing and buying shit just like muricans
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>>259609594
>every other fucking building has AC why not the places where people actually live
Because in Japan and murika, people spend more time at work than at "home"
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>>259609685
>Games still coming out for old consoles
>New consoles don't have enough vidya yet, and are expensive
>Handhelds still common as fuck.
>Phones are most commonly flip-phones and not used for games, yet almost everyone has one
Honestly, more people would buy Wii U/Ps4 if they sold more Japan-pandering games. They have different tastes from the West. Metroid sells like dogshit in Japan, but sells, comparatively, fantastically in USA.
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>Smash 3DS is 2.1 GB
>Meaning unless you want to deal with download times you have to go physical, which honestly isn't the best idea with a handheld device if you travel a lot
>WOW SAKURAI SO FUCKING LAZY YOU COULD HAVE MADE IT 8 GB GET IT TOGETHER
>Smash Wii U has tons music tracks and high res textures, and will supposedly have all the newcomer videos available
>It may get to maybe 20 GB or so (Tropical Freeze was 11 GB)
>People will complain it takes too long to download or some shit
There's always something to complain about, and I know someone will complain about the Wii U's size, download or not.
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>>259609461
Well yeah, but you don't keep either in view.
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>>259610305
Japan housing is tiny. Where am I going to fit Mikoto-chan?
>>
The screen is low res so they can get away with low res sprites.
The speakers are low quality, and so is the audio input (even with good headphones the sound is low), so they can get away with compressed music.
There's no subspace emisary, so there shouldn't be a billion FMV clogging up space.
The card they're using to ship the game in (I'm guessing 4 gb? Unless there's a 3 gb variant) also costs less than one with 8 gb would.
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>>259610423
In your secret basement.
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>>259595224
>Music can't be as high quality so it's compressed and gets worse quality, reducing its size by a big margin.

You actually don't know what you're talking about
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>>259591198
Japan is like anyplace else.
Source: Kappa Mikey
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>>259610554
>tfw some of the friends I made in Nihon come to visit me every now and then in my home in Arizona
>their faces when my 2-story, 4-bedroom house that cost me 180 grand
It's great. None of them have ever been inside a livable commode like in 'merrica. So many people here are used to living in houses that the Japs could contain their extended family in.
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>>259606016
said the korean
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>>259610948
Maybe they're from Tokyo or something. I doubt they would be as cramped in other prefectures.
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>>259609685
because japanese aren't as stupid as americans, americans think they're not selling because consoles are dyiing, when in reality they're not selling because they're all shit
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>>259587725
>Game quality is dependent on size

Titanfall must be aweseome, huh OP?
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>>259611313
Unless they live in the country side, housing is usually limited. I knew some well off people who were living in a college-dorm-tier apartment.

I never really went through the country side, other than one of my vacations from Tokyo to Okinawa
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>>259594090
Brinstar from Melee is gonna be on the 3DS version.
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>>259611453
Then why are mobile games selling like mad in Japan? Mobile isn't shit now somehow? Do you know what Puzzles and Dragons is?
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>>259611453
Wii U's pretty alright here in the West. It just doesn't have any killed software for Japan, unless you count MH3U.
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>>259611895
mobile games are selling everywhere, just like the wii and solitaire, normals love that shit

>>259612045
every console is well in the west because we're techwhores who buy shit just because
and wii u being less shit than the ps4 and xbone doesn't makes it not shit
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>>259611453
I don't think anyone makes that claim except here though.

If they suck that is essentially death in terms of relevance.
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>>259612514
because they can't possibly get any better from now on, amirite?
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>>259602014
Akira really is the best character but in VF the difference between the best character and the worst one is like between one tier of characters in other games
there's no Akira in the west that'd consistently beat up any decent japanese player that plays bottom tier - that's how balanced that game is
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>>259612684
Atari killed games.
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>>259612045
>Wii U's pretty alright here in the West.
The trendlines say it's doomed
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>>259595590
So they should do what PS3 developers did early on last gen and just fill the game with copy/pasted or junk filler files to impress entitled shitheads like you? Great idea!
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>>259604969
Sounds cool. Source?
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>>259596310
Of course it will. Melee is a God-tier masterpiece that will never be topped or even equaled. And I'm not just saying that because of how it impressed my 12 year old self when it came out.
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>>259612514
>I don't think anyone makes that claim except here though.
Lots of places know gaming is shit now. That's why gaming is so full of negativity now, with devs attacking players, pubs attacking customers, players attacking devs, etc. But unlike the east, the west is an extreme consumer culture. If you don't buy you're seen as less than human, so people keep buying games even though those games fulfill them less and less. Then they take their anger out on the devs or the pubs.
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>All these bilingual fuckers living the dream
F-Fuck you
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>>259605510
at least they're not slideshows
>>
>20 days until Japan release
>20 days or less until roster release
I can't handle it
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>>259614063
it's not that great. I'm trilingual (English, Japanese and my home country's language) and it still sucks. Nobody scans raws for the shit I want to read and I don't live in Japan. Importing shit is 2 expensive always etc.
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>>259610187
What sort of third world internet do you have?
>>
>complaining about a game being too small
what the fuck. this is why we have 40gb releases now
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>>259602187
>>259604969
I can't wait for this mode to be revealed then have the PM team claim that Sakurai stole their idea.
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>>259614229
You've seen the roster except maybe 2 characters and neither of them is Ridley so they're irrelevant. Face it, smash hasn't had a significant roster upgrade since Melee
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>>259589156
>fighting game
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>>259608207
Unless you got blown by Zoe Quinn you're irrelevant to the industry
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>>259610907
I like you anon
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