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Choose your race.
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>>259556862
Gay orc
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>>259556862
How is the character still alive if a plane landed on them?
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>>259556862
DRAGON DRAGON, ROCK THE DRAGON
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The fuck is the difference between a gnome and a halfling?
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>>259557175
Where does it say landed?
And there are all sorts of planes, maybe it was made of paper.
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>>259556862
>no faerie choice
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>>259556862
Yan-ti sounds fun, that's the closest you'll get to a naga, right?
Any other games that let you play as naga or centaur?
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>>259557434
Gnomes are the short, big-headed fucks who love tinkering and shit.

Halflings/kender are basically small humans all around, and personality-wise tend to be more like the hobbits we see in the LotR books/movies.
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>>259558094
CoC
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Fish.
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>>259557434
halflings are the unemployed version of gnomes
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Female halfling cleric.

Then take that loli codzilla to town.
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>not playing a true neutral wizard
Why even bother then?
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>>259556862
The fuck kind of choice is that? Obviously halfling.
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is this modded or something? i don't remember some of those races being in the original nwn2
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>There is only one human race
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>>259558409
>NW2 hairs
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>>259556862
>no Undead
dropped
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>>259558143
Well I guess that counts as a game, kinda.
Any others?
Got DCSS already.
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>>259558463
They come with the addons. Zephir or what it was called was centered around yuan-ti.
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>>259557434
Gnomes are hard-working, if somewhat annoying faggot inventors
Halflings are jews
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NWN>NWN 2>shit>AIDS>Ebola>Neverwinter Online
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>>259557434
And dwarfs rip you off with canned goods.
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What is the difference between Dwarf and Gnome?
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>>259558471
There are subraces.
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>>259556862
Gold Dwarf master race.
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male halfing so you can /ss/ with the elf shotacon
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>>259558409
>true neutral

because it's never presented properly in any rpg. it doesn't mean "do a bit of good here, do a bit of evil there to balance it out".
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>>259558471
>he thinks being a nigger or a chick is a race

Sub-races I guess but there is only one race. The human race
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>>259558683
>NWN>NWN 2

Nigga please. NWN1 OC is utterly forgettable and expansions are alright. NWN2 OC is great in comparison and we probably know everything about expansions at this point.
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>>259558683
>mfw my amd gpu means no NWN
I swear, last time I bought amd.
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>>259558409
>Alignment
>Mattering shit in video games where everything is balanced around playing the good guy
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>>259558752
Nope
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>>259558128
Halflings are hobbits

Kender are abominations sent from hell
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>>259557434
Gnome - jew
Halfling - brit
At least that's how they were in Arcanum.
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>>259558905
Explain?
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>>259558910
In all fairness, NWN2 gives you an evil alternative for a third of the campaign or so.
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>>259558910
>implying you don't get the best ending in NWN2 if you go evil

trust me on this one, the good ending is rocks fall everyone dies
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>>259556862

I always choose human or dwarf because everything else fucking sucks.
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tfw you can't be an almighty paladin that wrecks shit with divine fury because D&D paladins are just shitty fighters with some minor auras and a heal once per day that's useless if you've got a cleric, or potions
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>>259559010
AMD has issues with NWNs water and general graphics. Game crashes reliably. Never found a fix.
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What was the Kelemvor prestige class called?
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>>259556862
>Half-Orc
>Grey Orc
Whichever one of those is more Orcish.
Always go Orc.
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>NWN2
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>>259558897
>mfw playing through nwn oc
>endless trash mobs and shitty loot containers fucking EVERYWHERE

it's also an abysmal experience for a rogue character because half the enemies are either undead or immune to sneak attacks.
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>>259559172
doomguide, taking that class in MotB is hilarious
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>>259559257
In DnD, a rouge without backup is always a dead rouge. Didn't you learn that?
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>nwn 2
>that camera

I will never finish this game. Also party AI is absolute shite.
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>>259558935
Also a fair assessment.
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>>259559257
Play some MotB for the most OP loot in any d&d game. Rogues still suck though
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Speaking of older RPGs, should I? Is EE worth it?
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>>259559162
No problems on my HD4850 and earlier on, on my X1650PRO. You're probably just dumb.
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>>259559416
if you have SoZ the party AI is somewhat decent, though you will still need to manually cast Qara's spells, otherwise she blows you up
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IT'S LIKE BIOWARE AND OBSIDIAN'S HALF RETARDED FUCKING COUSIN MADE A CHARACTER SCREEN. WHAT IS THIS DUMB SHIT?
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>>259559392
which is a huge problem in the game because you don't get a party, just one brain dead henchman of your choosing.
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>>259559537
>implying the loot even comes close to the crafting system
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>>259558785
Witcher series is basically about true neutral character being forced to make choices that don't fit with his alignment.
It's best we can get.
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>mfw the best module ever made (and better than all campaigns) is a dance with rogues
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>>259556862
What game is this?
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>>259559609
Nah, I'm just living in the 21st century with my HD6770.
>>259559725
Which means roll caster, pick meatshield, or roll fighter, pick healer.
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>>259559725
I played the NWN OC with a sorcerer, took either the fighter or the cleric with me and never ran into any issue what so ever
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>>259559938
or roll Cleric/Druid, pick nothing, still breeze through it
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>>259559754
Was there even crafting in NWN1? I remember there was that dwarf smith for weapons and armor, but didn't you actually have crafting skills? Never used those in my life.
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>>259556862
>dragon
>planettouched
>yuan ti pureblood
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>>259559559
Sure. It's a great game. Make sure to read everything though so you know what's going on.
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>>259556862
>Dragon
You have my attention, please, tell me more?
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>>259560129
>picking codzilla
I bet you generally play all games on easy?
>>259560181
Them half-dragon wings in nwn1
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>>259559938
>>259559990
>>259560129
if you're not a caster you better have use magic items ready.
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>>259559559
If you don't already own it, then yeah. Some people will bitch about it, and say "get it from GoG, get all these mods, blah blah", but it's frankly just easier to get the EE versions.
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>>259560161
he was talking about MotB which had impressively stupid crafting

there was a bit of crafting in NWN1 but it was mostly related to low level gear and changing appearances on gear
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>>259559559
yes. original game didn't suffer the addition of fanfiction characters like bg2ee did.
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why was she so completely useless
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>>259560487
>he was talking about MotB which had impressively stupid crafting

>mfw no fucking interface for crafting

Going through dialogs and books when you have dozens of crafting options was infuriating.
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>>259560573
>original game didn't suffer the addition of fanfiction characters like bg2ee did.
But 3/4 of the mods for both original BG1 and 2 are exactly that, fanfiction npcs.
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>>259560371
even then magic items only get you so far

once that wizard throws time stop your way there's not much you can do
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best character
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>>259560723
He's talking about EE releases. BG2 EE adds four new characters, with disastrous results.
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>>259560853
but qara is mai waifu
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>>259560631
Rogues suck
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>>259560719
well it got you that +10 sword of elemental rapture oneshotting everything but bosses
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>>259559620
>Qara

I still don't know for the life of me why I took her aboard.
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>>259560912
fuck that dumb bitch

shes probably STILL sitting in that fucking neverwinter tavern sticking that dumb quarterstaff up her floppy pussy

hope shes fucking dead
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>>259560723
>Optional mods
>Same as stuff that comes with the base game
So what you're saying is that any game with mods is shit?
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>>259560857
>with disastrous results

I didn't follow BG2ee. What disastrous results exactly? It can't be Imoen romance tier.
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Steam NVM2 doesn't have most of those races in OP
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>>259560853
close but not entirely
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>>259560857
BG1 EE added four characters as well. One of them was just an easter egg (the drow you fight in the Black Pits)
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>>259560723
Anyone got a picture of that one asian mary sue character
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>>259561047
You gotta look it up. Like the guy said, it's fan fiction-tier quality.
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>>259557983
>what is Fey.
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>>259559725
NVN 1?

I absolutely destroyed that game with a Shadowdancer. Didn't even bother with a companion.
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>>259561023
Because sorcerers are pretty OP
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>>259556862
is mayonnaise a race?
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>>259558128
>mfw this is a halfling in Japanese video games
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>>259560631
Because she's a rouge in a fighting-based game and an undead theme and with a shitty race?
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>>259561047
Not really disastrous results. /v/ being overdramatic, as usual
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>>259561023
because she's the only arcane caster for the first third of the game?

just like how for the first half of the game this bitch is the only divine caster
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>>259561037
The likelihood is that if you're modding BG2 you'll add a few npc mods. Complaining about EE on the basis that it adds npcs, which are probably much, much better than the horrible shit modders came up with, is delusional.

Really the only significant complaint against EE versions is that you can't mod them the same way as the originals, so you're missing out on a ton of content.
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>>259561094
oh shit

you got me there dude
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>>259561141
My bad, I didn't notice!
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>>259561147
Shadow dancer is a broken ass class for munchkins
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>>259556862

half-orc? how does that even work?

>fantasy
>biology

Pick one
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>>259561270
>I stalked you during your entire childhood
>it was totally for protection reasons
>let's fuck

and she the primary romance
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>>259561206
google InCase halfling
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>>259561031
>floppy pussy

I hope you're going to take responsibility for this boner, anonymous-kun.
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>>259561407
shadowdancer is useful for 1 level only, the munchkin class is Druid in NWN1

more specifically dragonshape druid
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>>259559416
Couldn't play NWN2, camera just too bad.

I have a pretty low tolerance level for these things.
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>>259561206
>halfings
>anything but legal lollis
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>>259557983
post dick
either the faerie's or yours, cutie.
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>>259561495
>shadowdancer is useful for 1 level only

pretty much. either that or go balls in for 15 levels. hid in plain sight is op as fuck.
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>>259561426
humans are compatible with EVERYTHING in D&D, its sort of their superpower
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>>259561440
So, with a female pc, why can't I romance khelgar?
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>>259561426
all sentient humanoid races can have kids with humans
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>>259558897

No one cares about the NWN OC. The reason NWN1 is (or was) so great, is because of its amazing multiplayer during its heyday.
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Bro Tier
Sand, Khelgar, Neeshka
God Tier
Amon
Great Tier
Casavir, Shandra, Construct
Meh Tier
Zhjaeve
Shit Tier
Bishop, Grobnar, Elanee, Qara
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>>259561023
Let her AI take control and turn on party damage...

Fireballs everywhere and chaos ensues. Good times. She's especially fun if you have the evil ranger in your party.
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>>259561659
Because Obsidian hates romances.
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>>259561487
I don't want big-titted halflings.
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>>259561639
meh even then, their shadow daze is pretty mediocre and their shadow minion is inferior to caster summons

all you can really do is cheese the game with hide in plain sight shenanigans and you're better off going 1 level of shadowdancer with the rest in assassin
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>>259561426

Humans and other races can cross-breed to create "half races", ergo half-orcs and half-elves.
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>>259561440
>>259561270
Elanee was my waifu for a long time :3

We broke up later though :(
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>you will never fuck a fat-assed dwarf barbarian girl in the ass after a day of adventuring
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>>259561751
its a shame most of Qara's dialog and character development was cut, originally it was going to be a plot point that she wasn't just a child annoyed at being told to not set things on fire, it was that she was holding back the vast majority of her power all the time, and still people didn't realize it and were being jealous of her suppressed power.
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>>259561816
doesn't assassin have too much overlap with rogue the already? not to mention

>nwn1
>poisons
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>>259561562
It is a girl.
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>>259561946
she's fucking creepy dude, so creepy even the bald evil wizard from the xpac beats her in waifu potential
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>>259562118
well then post yours silly
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>>259562034
That didn't change the fact that she was a huge cunt and wouldn't have made killing her in the final battle any less enjoyable
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>>259561893

Which is biologically impossible
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>>259561946
>We broke up later though :(
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>>259561524
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>>259557175
Saving throw.
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>>259562070
assassin has overlap with rogues but also gets a few useful spell like abilities, most potent being improved invisibility

and high level rogues suck monkey balls
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>>259561407
>rogues suck
>rogues broken for munchkins

pick one.

The munckin classes were that dragonshape druid and the build that took a level in bard, a few in dragon disciple, and the rest in fighter. There was a specific recipe that min/maxed every fucking detail. That's munchkining.
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Know that it was my dream to play an NWN1 campaign as a Paladin/Blackguard/Assassin that falls but not rly cuz he become good at the end uses evul to fight demons do not steal
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>>259562212
Then why do we have sentient monkeys?
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>>259562212
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>>259562212
I think biology went out of the window the minute the gods literally walked the earth
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>>259562391

Niggers -//- sentient monkeys

>>259562396
>>259562414

Point taken.
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>>259562329
38 druid/1ranger/1monk was still more overpowered
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DWORF
ALWAYS
ALWAYS
BET IT ALL ON DORF
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>>259562414
So, during the time of sorrow, or what it was called?
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>>259556862

I heard there were fairies?
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Would /v/ play as the doll race?
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>>259562162
Honestly I don't see what's wrong with dating the 100 years older elvish druid who's been stalking you from birth

There are creepier relationships in real life
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>>259562669
>dolljoints
>playable
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>obsidian will never make a sword world rpg adaptation
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>>259562523
>Niggers -//- sentient monkeys
You got a point, that was pretty rude of me.
Sorry, monkeys.
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>>259562613
I want to brutally fuck Cirno
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>>259562678
100 is like 18 for elves anyway.
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>>259562779
>japanese tabletop rpg
what in the fuck? such a thing exists?
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>>259562607
Time of Troubles

I think

I should re-read my Forgotten Realms novels sometime, they were sub-par quality but I remember having fun
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>>259562669
Fuck yes, I love dolls.
The joints are cute, they're all-around-cute and sexy, really.
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>>259562212
You realize you are talking about a game where you can toss fireballs and snap your fingers to become invisible, right?

Interspecies breeding is the least of it's problems with reality.
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>>259562613
Faerie is the best race. However the real question is: wind, ice, fire, dark or light faerie? Which is the superior faerie?
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>>259561094

Amon Jerro and the Githzerai: Best characters.

Two who have walked the planes and seen the wonders of the multiverse.

Dwarf Tier
KHELGAR IRONFIST

Okay, you can stay but try not to be annoying -tier.
That crazy fire-bitch, Edgelord hunter

WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME I SAID NO -tier
Gnome, Neeshka

FILTHY DUMB ELF SCUM
Sand and the treefucker.
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>>259562669
Depends, can I get a pretty dress?
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>>259562895
IKR
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>>259562772
>>259562925
Even if you aren't into doll-joints, this game also has another loli race.
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>>259562178
I'm a girl too
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>>259562974
Who cares, just have an ice time!
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>>259563128
The fairy-boy looks kinda goofy, can I get cute fairy boys instead?
>>259563186
post dick anyway.
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>>259563005
>Githzerai: Best character

Seriously she was a constant annoyance, fuck her useless race and fuck her sword
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>>259562542

That's gnomish dickery.

A dwarven hammer can be made out of an alloy that simply explodes in your face. But why would you have that, when you're just fine with a heavy piece of ornately carved rock strapped to a metal pole?
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>>259563274
http://kson.jp/bg/files/hutameyu.jpg
Faerie dick for you. Now be quiet!
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>>259558409
Wizards are no fun to play in NW2 (or its vanilla campaign, at least)
>spend five minutes buffing everyone before each boring encounter
>congratulations you win
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>>259562904
Don't go back there. Down that path lies misery and disappointment.

Leave your middle school reading list in your fond memories. I know from experience. I went back to read the Dragonlance series because I remembered enjoying them in 4th grade. Now I hate my 4th grade self.
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So what are some games where you can play as a cute fairy?
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>>259563365
Because that hammer there has a flintlock mechanism on it to shoot a nigga, Impale niggas, and apparently has a mechanism to light a nigga on FIRE
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>>259562974
Green is best. Cute yet slightly slutty.
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>>259563426
Or just ignore your party and nuke everything yourself.
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>>259563458

You want jrpgs
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Magic motherfuckers
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>>259563374
No.
If I'm quiet how will this grow into us falling in love?
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>>259563543
Which ones, though?
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>>259563458
See >>259563128
It's coming on Steam too.
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>>259562523

On the subject of half-races I wish fantasy had a bit more "realism" (maybe that isn't the right word) in it

I wanna see a fantasy world where it's not possible to mix elves and humans because they are completely different species

I wanna see a fantasy world where only the magically-gifted races can use magic

I wanna see a fantasy world with machines powered by magic

I wanna see a fantasy world where the undead races and the Underworld are not the bad guys

I wanna see a fantasy world whose setting is similar to the ancient era

I wanna see a fantasy world whose setting is similar to the industrial era

I wanna see a fantasy world with diverse political systems and a struggle for power

I wanna see a fantasy world where dragons don't look like wyverns and can't breathe fire

I could make a HUGE list of shit I want to see in a fantasy world, but I think I made my point.
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REKT
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Great cleave is best feat
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>>259563426
>Buffing companions
Ahahahhaha
Good one.
They can take care of each other on their own, a wizard is there to fuck the enemy, not to buff the party.
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>>259563587
Sorry, you aren't a cute faerie drawn by kso. There is no way I ever will fall in love with you.
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>>259563450
>mfw I will never be able to daydream about living in a fantasy world again

Like this is one of the worst thing of growing up, I just can't immerse myself anymore
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>>259563737
Likewise, why do people expect clerics to waste their time and heal?
Go drink a potion, faggot, the cleric is here to kick ten times more ass than you.
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>Browse /v/ for Zoe Quinn crap.
>Oh shit! A thread a bout actual video game!
This is a pleasant surprise.
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>>259563308
>Cleric

That's the easy button in 3rd ed D&D, son.
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>>259563704
Hairy midget got BURNT
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>>259563737
They can't. They really can't. And then I chime in with my wizard powers and everyone's suddenly a bloody demigod.
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>>259563692
>I wanna see a fantasy world where only the magically-gifted races can use magic

LotR

>I wanna see a fantasy world with machines powered by magic

Done in an assload of things, Dragon Commander is most recent

>I wanna see a fantasy world where the undead races and the Underworld are not the bad guys

Divinity series

>I wanna see a fantasy world whose setting is similar to the ancient era

Age of Decadence

>I wanna see a fantasy world whose setting is similar to the industrial era

Arcanum

>I wanna see a fantasy world where dragons don't look like wyverns and can't breathe fire

You're a faggot.
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>>259563994
>Clerics

Clerics are for people who want to have everything without having to make any sacrifices aka munchkins.
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I love playing monks.
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>>259564228
clerics weren't to overpowered in NWN2 because they lacked a lot of their bullshit abilities

no divine metamagic helped
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>>259564151

>you're a faggot

No, you are.
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Any good modules for NWN 2?
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>>259564352
good come-back, faggot.
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>>259564054

VIDEO GAMES
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>>259563529
Then you run out of spells with half the enemies still alive and your party half dead because damage spells are completely outclassed by utility spells.
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>>259564317
They feel kinda weak though. Even with the Unarmed Attack Bonus from NWN1 and the Improved Flurry from NWN2, they still feel weak as shit.
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>>259564123
How bad do you fucking control them if you need to buff them?
Like seriously the only fight where they kinda need to be buffed is towards the end when you fight the 3 reavers or whatever. And maybe the final boss.

Everything else should never even make them drop to half their health. As a wizard you cna just go happy and kill 90% of the enemies in the first two turns while the rest of the party takes care of the rest.
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>>259564317
>mfw I let Khelgar go full monk

Worst fucking decision ever
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>>259564083
Pure casters in general are.
If you want the fighters to pull their weight, better go really low-level or really high-level.
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>>259564054
So you go out of your way to mention ZQ.

I hope you get ebola.
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>>259564483
what are save or die spells
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>>259564317
>making Khelgar a monk
How could I have been so fucking dumb. Fuck monks
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>>259564595

Waste of action.
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>>259564483
That's a sign your build sucks. Who the fuck loses with a caster?
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>mfw casting Summon Creature X
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>>259564502
>turning someone with zero fucking wisdom into a monk

seriously what did you expect?
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>>259564454

Even greater comeback, faggot
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>>259564647
>be pure wizard
>completely fucked up stats because Roleplaying
>final boss of MotB still doesn't even fucking touch me because Hand spells
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>>259564637
>big enemy threat is now dead with a single spell
>waste of action
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>>259564621

That's why you get tumble, turn your agility to 20 over and get weapon finesse.

You want to be UNTOUCHABLE
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>>259564703
As his friend I thought I should be supportive of his choices
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>>259564228
This.

>I can use any weapon or armor due to muh domains
>I can outperform a fighter due to muh domains
>I turn undead more effectively than paladins because lol

Bunch of powergaming queers.
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>>259561804
fag
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>>259556862

Haven't played in a long time, but, does it have multiplayer?
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>>259564484
lol just play final fantasy tactix
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>>259558409
>the wizards strength is her spells
>female
>wizard
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>>259564883
...the entire point of those games was to be a multiplayer D&D experience
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>>259564985
N-not really
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>>259564502
Yeah, but pretty much every step of that story line hints at the fact that Khelgar would be a terrible monk. I wish their was a branch to that story where you track down the original monks that beat him down and smash them into paste.

Khelgar with gauntlets and hammer is best Khelgar.
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>>259564985

I only played the campaign
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>>259564813
Yeah, except the other 99 times out of 100 = Big enemy threat makes save. You waste a spell.

No save spells or party buffs are the way to wizard.
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>>259565297
I've almost never had an enemy actually make the save in the campaigns

either they were flat out immune or they just keeled over and died
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What game is this?
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>want to play motb
>have to build 20 levels worth of shit in one go
>still end up missing 75% of the time as a melee class with a build I read up on the internet and die to enemies in the first dungeon
I should get back to it properly sometime
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>>259556862
>vidya with a proper list of /tg/ races

WAT FUCKING GAME?!
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>>259563458
How about this?
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>>259558968
This guy's right.
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>>259565297
>No save spells or party buffs are the way to wizard.
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>>259565120
>no friends.

I know that feel, bro.
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>>259565394
>>259565440
Neverwinter Nights 2

Goddamn cavemen
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>>259564840
>not liking anime little girls
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>>259561047
Wild mage girl isnt too bad, her humour is vastly inferior to the FUN potential of her randomly misfiring spells, which range from fucking everything in the room, to fucking you up.I once had her summon a fucking demon while casting invisibility.Beat the shit out of every enemy in the room before going after the party.
Blackula is strong independent vampyre who dont need no woman, so she's only romancable with a female character.Gameplay wise she's meh.
Evil orc man is an evil orc who is also evil, spends time talking about evil and how evil it is to be so evil.Pretty good in combat.
Rassad is bro-tier, however he's so fucking useless in combat it's not even funny.
He cant equip armor - and he's got perks that make his fists stronger.So furhter into the game he's completely useless.
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Tell me /v/, why are JRPGs called RPGs when there is zero roleplaying in them?
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>>259565650
that's why they are called jrpgs
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>>259565394
never winter knights 2
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>>259565612
>Neverwinter Nights 2

Oh
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>>259565646
I tried playing the game as a wild mage myself

was all fun and games until I summoned a demon in the first town I encountered
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>>259565421
They problem I found with a lot of the online builds is that most do one thing really well, and that one thing gets super old fast. Either that or they are specifically designed to beat other builds in PvP.

Both the main campaign and MoTB are, for the most part, super easy. Just make a character you have fun playing and you'll be fine.
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What does /v/ think of Hammerwatch?
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>>259565650
They are Jrpg's. Got it anon.
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>>259565421
I started the first NWN probably a million times with the intent of making scythe weilding half-dragon.
I never got far.
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>>259565650
Why are any games called RPGs when majority of your choices mean jackshit?
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>>259566061
keep up and you'll get this baby
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>>259566061
That's because you try to combine a caster class with exotic weaponry.
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>>259565875
The only MoTB bullshit is those vampires from where you meet Dove. Those fucking things raped the epic gate demon like it was nothing.
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>>259566309
>caster class
The build I was following had like, 1 obligatory bard level.
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>>259566373
well yeh that's because what's beyond the door is lv 28 content while the upper part is lv 20 content
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>>259566061
I finished both campaigns with a King's Watch duelist, or whatever that prestige class was.

It was excruciating. I was impossible to hit but didn't put out much damage. Every major battle took for-fucking-ever. I must have spent at least an hour with that barbarian fucker chasing me around at the trial.
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Human Wizard.
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>>259566574
Anon I was there at level 25 or 26. Those little fucking shits are way to fucking powerful. I only killed them all with that death to undead spell.
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>>259566724
drew them all into one place, cast vampiric feast and that was the end of it
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>>259565443
>loli with fairy wings
This is my fetish.
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Grey Orc cleric/monk/sacred fist is the most OP combo in nwn2, prove me wrong

>all dat attack
>dat free attack per round
>100% dmg migitation on succesfull reflex throw, 50% migitation on unsuccesfull reflex throw
>all dat AC
>3d10 BASE damage @ epic levels
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>>259566847
Or that too
>Let's put a spell that instantly kills every enemy on the screen always and then also heals the caster
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
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>>259566919
>low AB
>can't use weapons

enjoy not hitting anything, frenzied berserker all the way
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>>259566724
That's how you're supposed to do it.

My memory is a bit foggy, but your spirit-walker NPC has a few spells that turn them from unbeatable to gum on your shoe in an instant. Kinda like those helmed horrors in BG1.
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>>259567020
don't forget it also isn't stopped by death magic, and its DC is improved if you're a necromancy red wizard (wizard/arcane scholar/red wizard with necromancy focus is hilarious, and only only miss out on 1 important spell because divination sucks)
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>>259566919

Also

>going dex on a monk
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>>259566919
I think it was a bug that allowed it, but I played a Druid/Monk karate bear in one game. Lawful-Neutral allowed both monk and druid classes and unarmed feats worked in beast form.

Not uber powerful, but ridiculous, hilarious and fun. I remember wishing it was a doable combo for pen and paper DnD.
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>>259556862
If you could choose your race IRL what would it be /v/?No fantastical races allowed,only earth creatures.
fox bros ww@
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>>259556862
Lawful good drow
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>>259567828
Drizt pls
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>>259556862
Did anyone ever have a problem of NWN2 completely fucking up the save/quest flags when saving games in Windows 7?
I remember it made the game unplayable for me, after three attempts of playthroughs I just rage uninstalled.
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>>259567875
wasn't he chaotic?
I'd imagine a lawful good drow to be a quiet scholar trying to hold back his innate evil nature through constant meditation and study
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Will NWN2 satisfy my lust to be an evil (ideally) necromancer based wizard/sorcerer or am I out of luck. I don't mind using mods.
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>>259567273
You didn't even need to specialize, the DC on that thing was ridiculous.
And you could have like 2 or 3 casts per day of it.
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>>259568034
Short answer: yes
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>>259568034
necromancy for wizards/sorcs is less undead summoning and more just evil shit
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>>259568034
Your choices won't matter much until the end. But there is an evil ending.
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>>259568031
I remember he didn't bang anyone in a drow religious orgy because "muh celibacy"
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>>259568080
and anything that made the save was still reduced to 50% health
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>>259556862

Human.

No special racial abilities, no ludicrously specialised stats, no bitchnigga Elf or Fariy floaty shit or retarded mongoloid Orcs or Dragon Otherkin fucks.

Come at me.
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>>259568267
yeh but he was also a free spirit because "muh rebel"
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>>259568157
So NWN 2 still has that useless fucking summoning cap in place like the first game?
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>>259568223
The evil endings are horrifying. Like fucking hell both in the OC and MotB if you go evil you are literally worse than Hitler in the endings
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>>259565421
One thing to note about MotB is that if you create a character from scratch for it, you're dumped out at like level 17 with no ECL adjustment. I think you're 18 by the end of the tutorial dungeon. Either way, you start with generic gear that probably doesn't suit your build, and you're underleveled for the content that's outside the dungeon. Most builds people post are designed strictly with pvp in mind and are generally unbearable to play through the game with, or rely on having the absolute best equipment you can make, which you didn't get to make because you didn't play through vanilla.

If you start MotB from scratch, you can't really afford any nonsense in your builds. Like a caster that gives up any caster levels 1-18 is absolute torture because you NEED level 9 spells at the minimum. Everything before that is dogshit in epic level content, even with maximize/empower. Likewise, a melee build that gives up BAB during leveling, or doesn't have blind fight is going to be a total bitch. Any race with an ECL penalty is a massive disadvantage when starting MotB fresh.

Meanwhile the epic feats are insanely overpowered, so you get this weird difficulty curve where you're either fucked, or you can cast vampiric feast and everything dies.
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>>259568606
Yes. But you can remove it by install spell improvements which fixes a tons of shit.
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>Tfw I equip that evil midget berseker from BGII with two magic axes and get his dual wield up
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>>259556862

>HUMAN - RDD - WM

Scimitars WOO!

Or just play NWN1 where the character skins change when you pick prestige classes.
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>>259568678
in a way the MotB evil ending is also highly satisfying

MASSIVE spoiler for those who haven't played it, this is not a joke
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>>259569047
It really depends. If you like your companions they are satisfying. If you hate your companions the evil path and the endings are like sex.
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>>259569230
at the end of MotB I felt like the world fucked my character hard enough, it was time to return the dickings with a vengeance
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>>259567875
Drizzt is chaotic, dumbass
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>>259569047
>No ending to go back and put some babies into Neeshka
>Couldn't do Dove either

Oh well Baldy is fine I guess... I did the good endings only.
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Would you vicious hate sex with Drow noble?
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>>259569667
Badly goes along with you on some of the evil endings (not the full evil one obviously), you become a happy loving couple of tyrants terrorizing a decent portion of the known world
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>>259569734
Only if it's a loli drow.
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>>259569667
Baldy was great.
It still perplexes me that Elanee gets to be a romance option and Neeshka doesn't. And the reason that happens is because it was cut.

Oh well not that it matters anymore. Nowadays I play RPGs as a female more.
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>>259569734
she probably has spiders in her vagina, so no thanks
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Staying neutral is such a pain in the ass.
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>>259569842
Unless you go with One-of-Many. Then he just cockblocks you.

Also doesn't storm of Zier or the other make the evil ending canon by having OoM as an random encounter or some shit?
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>>259569892
Neeshka and Edgeranger were supposed to have romance options but you know, Obsidian and deadlines
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>>259559257
Well the warehouses of NWN 2 were pretty bad as well. I don't mind trash mobs but there sure were a lot of thieves in that one building.
>>259561023
I couldn't stand her. Hope she liked all those maximized spells I threw at her.
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>>259570029
perhaps, OoM could have come to be in another way if you don't exorcise him
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>>259559938
>Nah, I'm just living in the 21st century with my HD6770.
I have an HD 6900 series, still runs fine for me.
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>>259568710
Those Thayan gnolls at the theater were pretty brutal because I had some 'filler' spells.
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>>259557175
they're big guys
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>>259570156
That and Josh and Avellone hate romances.

I don't mind there not being any romances in PoE but if that Gun Priest is way too cute for her own good I'll kinda be disappointed. Neeshka was infinitely better than the creepy as fuck druid chick. And the worst part is that not everything was removed. You can see that she's interested in you.
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NWN2 is so fucking boring.
I always got to one part and then stopped playing.
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>>259570728
it depends, Josh doesn't like traditional happy romances but instead prefers attraction between flawed people
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>>259559162
Disable shiny water. Problem solved.

>>259561023
Because you don't get Sand as a party member until later, and she has a lot of offensive spells that Sand can't use because he specializes in Conjuration and therefore can't use Evocation spells.
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>>259570902
He just doesn't like how romances are in most cRPGs. How, according to him, they are written just as another shitty quest you have to win and isn't really based on the character's background.
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>>259561407
This. As a PW admin, balancing all the overpowered stuff introduced in HotU and SoU was annoying, but nothing was as bad as a Shadow Dancer's ability to cancel all offensive actions towards themselves by spamming hide mode.
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>>259561206
Video games should do more video games where halflings look like lolis.
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>>259558094
DotA 2
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Are there any alignment games that give you a route through all 9 paths? Nothing skeleton-crew like D&D, something with a good story
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>>259569892
>Nowadays I play RPGs as a female more
What.

Also they have RPGs? Don't lie.
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>>259561118
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>>259568267
Drizzt is such a damn fag
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>>259572512
I wonder. Did Drizzt ever get laid?
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>>259572270
No. What is the appeal?
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>>259572638
Yes, by my party. 2 times.
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>>259572975
Laid to rest I presume? That clown had some good gear for stealing.
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>>259572953
Well is this more to your tastes?
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The saddest thing about the MotB good ending is that Okku doesn't come with you. Okku and Khelgar will never be on your team at the same time...
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>>259573526
>Dwarf + Bear = Bear Cavalry

>>259573292
Maybe as a funny party member (I think my Bishop was a fairy on Wizardry 8 I gave her the airhead voice). But not as the MC.


They need to make another Wizardry game..
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>>259556862
>Choose your race.
I picked Drow. You know to min-max my Wiz5/EldKnight5/Bladesinger10/Swiftblade10
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>>259573927
What's good about that build? What can It do well?
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>>259573927
that's exactly what I did, hot damn was it beautiful to watch.

>>259574112
9'th lvl spells, good BAB, perma haste, bunch of immunities, double int mod bonus dmg iirc-
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>>259564832
>M-muh fighters...

Fighterbabies are ruining all tabletops, nobody likes you faggots.
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>>259574442
Do you have a link to the build on a site?
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>>259572270
No but I'd play any race as long as I can have a loyal fairy as my sidekick.
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>>259574869
http://nwn2db.com/build/?4123
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>>259574795
In all fairness, DnD 3rd is horribly balanced, to the point where you can't have a fighter and a cleric or druid in one party without the fighter being 100% useless or the caster being deliberately ruined.
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>>259574112
Everything, really. It's a wizard with level 9 spells, but also really good martial ability. There's a bunch of feats that up your AB and damage and with finesse and a rapier you've got even more ability to hit and with the epic level feat combat insight you switch int for str when it comes to damage rolls. So you end up as a competent caster who can also wreck shit almost as well as a dedicated fighter.
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>>259574869
You should be able to make out how to build it from the prereqs.
http://nwn2customcontent.wikidot.com/swiftblade
http://nwn2customcontent.wikidot.com/bladesinger
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Cool build I guess I only ever played builds that had RDD in it though... Might try next playthrough.
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>>259575113
Which is why fighter babies have cried in nearly every single edition since then
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>>259575592
>>Which is why fighter babies have cried in nearly every single edition since then
Well, it's just bad game design. If you want to make a game caster viable only, then that's fine. But don't waste resources on classes it makes no sense to play as.
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Water planetouched female is my go to race in NWN, mods and expansions.
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>>259575592
>class completely literally useless
>baby for asking you at least be better than NPC classes

typical wizard player here
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>>259559860
>Witcher
>true neutral
Being apolitical doesn't make you true neutral, if anything, it's highly against it.
True neutral is about maintaining balance, it's why druids were always a definitive True neutral class and required it as alignment.
If you just don't give a fuck/don't consider things part of your job you are probably chaotic or lawful neutral.
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This was the best build when I played
http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Kaze_no_Kama#Duelist.285.29

It's insane min-max.
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>>259559070
You're one boring motherfucker. I bet you read guides about best way to min max before playing games too.
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>>259568034
Use PRC and NWN1, you can play as a lich if you want, have to craft your phylactery and shit. Can even play as a demi-lich if you manage to craft the soul gems.
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>>259558771
It's not shota if you're not a kid.
Also elves hate halflings
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>>259581330
Elves hate everything that's not themselves.
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>>259581509
They love cocks.
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>>259559612
ERPers are the cancer of the internet. Fuck.
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I wish these games would offer more than lameass deformed humans with painfully forced 'quirks' to make them seem less like lameass deformed humans.
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Edgiest companion of all time.
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I really adored Aribeth and her jiggly tits. I was so relieved that i could talk her out of fighting thus forcing me to kill her.
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>>259582942
she is still executed though, you meet her again in Hordes of Underdark, but you are a different person

>>259582560
being able to call that guy out on being a massive piece of shit was fun, but Undergallows and the bard chick were the best companions anyway
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>>259581509
That's a lie. They just dislike races that doesn't respect the status quo with nature. And for good reason too.
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>>259584506
Yeah, but i was just happy i didn't need the one to kill her.

Played HotD, enjoyed it much more than the vanilla campaign, but never got around to complete it.
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>>259584675
HotD gets a pretty weird element later on, with truenaming. Never been a fan of that.
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>>259584506
>Meet her ghost in fucking Underdark
Fucking retarded. Underdark isn't hell.
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>>259584675
I think with both the neverwinters the expansions are much better than the basic game, mask of the betrayer and HotD are some of my favourite games, even though I actually played HotD after MotB
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>>259584829
when I said underdark I meant the game not the place
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>>259584829
You don't meet her in the Underdark. You meet her in... mephistoteles circle, whatever its name was.

The addon is just called Hordes of the Underdark.
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>>259584831
Mask was for 2, right? Because the first expansion for 1 was pretty lacklustre. That desert campaign.
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>>259585019
I'm still mad Fenthick got to tap that. Only thing Fenthick should be getting was cocks, not hot half elf paladins
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>>259585019
yeah, mask is for the second one, and yes the first expansion felt dull, but I still forced myself to play cause its the same character in HotD
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>>259585191
he was such a massive faggot he deserved to hang from that tree
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Is Nasher the biggest dipshit ruler of all time? Because i'm pretty sure he is.
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>>259556862
Aasimar Paladin, Half-Celestial if I feel like cheating.
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>>259585542
he is an ungrateful son of a bitch, but I still liked the way they explained why the main hero from 1 is not mentioned in the 2nd game
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>>259585542
Aribeth did nothing wrong.
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>>259585709
Downplaying the 1st hero's role in saving neverwinter (as in, he did fucking everything while the rest was busy fapping in a corner) is unforgivable.
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>>259585815
She did everything wrong when she sucked off Fenthick
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>>259586059
Nasher please.
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>Meet Aribeth's ghost in Underdark
>Become lovers
How does that even work?
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So, what exactly was Helm doing in the original NWN campaign?

Taking a nap?
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>>259586301
>Gods
>Real
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>>259586301
jacking off
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Why are Gnomes so based in every game they appear in? D&D? Cool guys. Arcanum? Amazing. Warcraft? I don't know never played it
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>>259586451
The gods are real in the Forgotten Realms universe.
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>>259586605
Then why didn't Helm do shit? Where was Tyr when Aribeth was slain?

Checkm8 cleric
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>not getting that sweet +12 STR belt
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>>259586605
To the point where mortals can become gods, a la Kelemvor.

>>259586497
This
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>>259586720
tyr and helm were busy jerking each other off, obviously, the only none asshole god is Kelemvor it seems
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>>259586720
Because Gods don't interfere with mortal concerns unless they feel like it or there's some threat to the gods.

Also, did you not play NWN2 MotB?
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>>259586720
I think the overgod Ao acts like a cunt if gods meddle too much
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>>259586902
>did you not play NWN2 MotB?
Actually, i didn't. I was so exhausted from finishing NWN2's rather boring campaign to the point i was put off RPGS for years.
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>>259586902
So you're telling me the watcher, the ever-vigilant, doesn't bat an eye when his priests are slain, his temple is desecrated and assholes impersonate his clerics as part of an evil cult?

Nope.
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>>259586720
As any high level planeswalker can tell you, Gods are full of shit, specially the ones from Faerun.
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>>259587046
Yeah. For one, they aren't actually allowed to mess around on earth unless there are extreme circumstances.

For two, gods are typically ambivalent in Forgotten Realms. To the point wher the only reason people know Gods exist is because Divine Magic is granted to you by the god you worship.
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>>259586720
Last time they fucked around too much with ther divine powers with the mortals Ao got pissed and sent all of them to live as mortals on Fearun.
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Has anyone done a solo run?
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>>259587346
I can't find it in me to just kill them all.
They are so amusing.
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>>259587303
That's not why the time of troubles started. The Dead Three were stealing shit from Ao.
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Where's the sword coast?
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>>259587303
Helm was actually the guy that got to keep his power even then. I suppose he coulda risked it.
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>>259587303
Why even have gods around when lord cunt Ao just refuse them to do anything at all?

Holy shit it must be boring as fuck to be a God in faerun
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>>259587623
Well, you're dealing with god shit when you're a god. Like, fighting level 30 dudes or arguing whether or not to genocide this plane or that plane.
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>tfw no cute anathema Yuan ti to cuddle up with
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>>259587623
>Holy shit it must be boring as fuck to be a God in faerun
Is a shitty setting, what do you expect, fun?
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>>259587623
shit sucks
first thing skelly Kelly tried to do when he became a god was tear down the wall but Ao wouldn't let him
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>>259575592
I-i just want a realistic katana
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>>259587461
Roughly there.
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>>259587926
This. With Elder Scrolls around, D&D sword coast is far outdated and boring in comparison
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>>259587992
That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?
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>>259588053
Thanks. Is the other continents often explored or is it all about faerun?
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>>259564647
Blasting is a horrible waste of time in 3E.

Hurr, let me throw a 5d6 fireball against monsters with 60 HP!
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>>259587623
they work through proxies, aka clerics. think of it like a cold war situation, with the gods representing the USA and USSR, faerun itself is some kind of shitty banana republic, and clerics are like the equivalent of the CIA or KGB, working to tip the country in the direction of a particular ideology (good, evil, law or chaos).
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>>259588185
Thanks for that I was about to dig into my old /tg/ shit to find that but you beat me to it.
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>>259588210
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qadim

the local not-arabia. hasn't seen much attention recently, though.
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>>259588214
And that's why you don't only AoE.
>>259588210
Usually, it's faerun. If you make it past calimshan, you're pretty much at the mercy of the DM's creativity.
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>>259575592
What the fuck are you talking about? "Fighter babies" cried about Pathfinder because they made the miraculously retarded decision to make Fighters worse and they cried about 5E because 5E made their Fighters even worse than Pathfinder's.
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>>259588512
>>259588214
>>259564647
>>259564775
>>259564483
completely missing the point of Wizards
this is a job for Sorcerers
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>>259588257
Yeah, but won't Ao simply swoop in and destroy any god's significant progress towards his own goal because MUH BALANCE?
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>>259588085
I was thinking about pnp, anyways Forgotten Realms isn't the worst setting because the Dragonlance exists. I don't even know why these two got that many attention and crappy books and manuals.
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>>259588694
The point of wizards? There is no fixed "point" of wizards. They're tier 1. They're whatever the fuck you want them to be.
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>>259588694
Sorcerors have the same problem but worse half of the time, since they're behind in spell levels.

Sorcerors also only get one more spell/day than a specialist Wizard on levels where they both have the same spell levels.
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>>259585019
>Because the first expansion for 1 was pretty lacklustre. That desert campaign.
If you think of it as its own thing, it's not so great. But if you take Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark as one big add-on, SoU works better. It's meant to be the first half of a story.
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>>259588694
In video games wizard are shit compared to sorcerers. One of the many reasons of why D&D rules sucks for vidya.
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>>259588508
Did Shadows of Undrentide take place there? I don't remember shit but a chapter or two being deserts
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>>259588694
>Sorcerer
I'd rather be a rogue in an undead themed adventure than to be a sorcerer
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>>259588987
Not really, at least not in NWN, with its very, very forgiving resting rules. You can easily just prep for variety, spam what you have and just rest, you'll be done shooting before you run out of spells anyways. Hence you still have the variety over the sorc.
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>>259559612

>Pass me some bud
>Shut up *J-jams it in*
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>>259588987
>>259588929
>>259588882
Wizards are versatile, Sorcerers are focused blastmasters
Wizard=swiss army knife
Sorc=scalpel
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>>259588964
Yeah, but are they truly tied to each other? I seem to recall the "story" was stand alone for both, with one fighting some lizard cunts or something, and the other being the undeads of Mesphito or whatever his name was.
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>>259589238
Only if the swiss army knife has a built-in scalpel.
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>>259589231
R-roll it easy.
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>>259589319
that brakes after 2 cuts
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>>259589436
If you need to cut more, you suck.
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>>259589182
>with its very, very forgiving resting rules
Well, that's true too. But then you need to rest in every room.
>>259589238
Except you don't need to know more than 3 spells per level, since utility (fly, teleport,etc) doesn't exist in NWN and the wiz have forbidden schools, so actually the sorc is more versatile.
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>>259589493
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>>259559203
>>259559396
>>259559612
The fuck is that? Some modded community server for ero roleplay?

With fucking NWN models?
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>>259589078
It was north of the sword coast. North and east once you moved to Anauroch.
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>>259589652
The depravation of ERPfags doesn't know limits anon.
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>>259589879
That ain't even smart erp it's just "lol lets fuk :DDDDDD"
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>>259589928
How precisely would one go about "smart" erping?
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>there are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW who did not play as a Sorcerer Arcane Scholar of Candledeep
>they did NOT turn their character into a walking macross missile massacre with quick-casting mass missile spells twice per turn
>you SHARE this board with them
>they are POSTING right now
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>>259589274
>>Yeah, but are they truly tied to each other? I seem to recall the "story" was stand alone for both, with one fighting some lizard cunts or something, and the other being the undeads of Mesphito or whatever his name was.
The OC was vs ancient magic lizards. It wasn't ever meant to be good. It was just to showcase the engine.
Shadows of Undrentide was a medusa trying to hijack a buried ancient magic city. At the end you have to escape to the plane of shadows to avoid death.
Hordes of the Underdark has you playing the same character as in SoU, having escaped from the plane of shadow and spent time hanging around with the grim reaper. You end up going to hell in it.
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>>259589652
And these are the kind of people that call JRPGs "underage panty quest".
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>>259590086
Guess you discuss physics and philosophy between moans.
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>>259590267
You also inform your partner that your reproductive organ currently provides a low-friction area.
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>>259590091
I did better. I played a Warmage in NWN1. Entire rooms fell before the might of missile storms because turns out that adding your INT+2 to 4 to all the spell damage you do is hilarious when combined with spells that hit multiple times.

Too bad it's a shit class in tabletop.
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>>259589274
SoU had potential, desert settings and ancient buried cities are interesting, it's just that the plot is criminally underwhelming.
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>>259590341
And wow her with the fact that her mammaries feel just like sand bags!
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>>259590119
My question is: why don't WRPGs ever allow for a harem end when there's romance options. I don't want to pick between Aribeth and Nathyrra. I want them to have sexy pillow fights in my tent for my amusement. Are the people of Faerun really so provincial that they can't accept a person with more than one lover?
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>>259590648
It's just that no girl wants to sleep with you, let alone two.
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>>259590648
HotU DID have a harem end if you rolled right on the true names.
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>>259590512
I think they were aiming for a pulpy sort of feel to it rather than a fantasy epic. In that it works. Plus, you're just some hero school trainee who gets tossed in way over your head.
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>>259590091
>walking macross missile massacre with quick-casting mass missile spells twice per turn
I don't even know what they were thinking when they introduced these spells
>hey, lets make a lvl 6 spell that does more damage than lvl 9 ones
>make it also force, so it can't be reduced by elemental resistance
>without save for half damage
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>>259590832
1. True names are kind of rapey.
2. True names are easy modo.

What was the point of my enormous CHA if not to make elf ladies tickle fight?
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>>259590973
Considering how horrible blasting is in 3E that's perfectly fine.
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>>259590832
How so?
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>>259591214
>that's perfectly fine.
Both are bad and need to be fixed IMO.
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How do people become planewalkers? I've seen low lvl fighters doing that shit too.
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Who's the Mary Sue OP character of Forgotten realms? My money is on Elminster
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>>259591521
magic
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>>259591521
You just need to travel between planes.
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>>259591437
ILMS is not particularly broken and IGMS had its damage halved in NWN2.

At any rate, it's 40d6 distributed in chunks of 2d6 each, with those chunks being split between enemies at random, some of them being wasted due to an enemy dying, and spell resistance factoring in. Whoo - you can do 140 average damage to a single target. It's 70 in NWN2.

140 damage is not a lot when a ton of monsters have HP in the several hundred range.
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I feel no D&D thread is complete without this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-J3nJerAyQ
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>>259592185
What is this? I'm curious.
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>>259592185
>Put your faith in matters of fact, and reason...and magic marbles...
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>>259591771
During the 3rd edition, Asmodeus the ruler of the Nine Hells, doesn't even give experience points to him. That's the level of bullshit of Elminster.
>>259592014
>Whoo - you can do 140 average damage to a single target
Force damage without save and with a lvl 6 slot.
Meanwhile, Meteor Shower, a lvl 9 spell does 24d6 fire damage (who everybody resist) and you can save it for half (or half damage/literally zero damage with evasion)

Guess you are a caster fanboy.
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>You will never live in Faerun and bang nymphs, elves and dryads
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>>259593086
>Force damage without save and with a lvl 6 slot.
Doesn't make it overpowered. That's less damage than pretty much any other class will ever do.
>Meteor Shower
Meteor Shower is massively underpowered you fucking retard. It used to be much better in 2E, but that's what happens when you think it's an awesome idea to double, triple, or even quadruple monster HP but leave spell damage alone.
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>>259561524
>loli
>illegal

How's it feel living in a socialist shithole, yuro?
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>>259593086
To be fair, Asmodeus is pretty much a OP mary sue of the lawful evil group compared to the other arch devils
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>>259593401
>Meteor Shower is massively underpowered you fucking retard
Still the spell with more damage potential in pnp, you fucking retard.
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halfling! halfling! a ha ha ha ha! a ha ha ha ha !
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>>259593678
The point is that it's a retarded baseline to compare spells off of. If you want a spell that actually competes with IGMS, you want any of the Orb spells.
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Gods i love the forgotten realm stuff
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Atropus
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Shothragot
It's so silly
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>>259556862
okay
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>>259570669

not going to answer that anon this is 2014
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>>259593968
>Orb spells
More bullshit.

Also, lets take other classic, Finger of dead.

If your mom is a lvl 20 wiz or sorc and I finger her, she can make a fort save or die. With an average/good CON, (+2 bonus) your mom will have around 90 HP average, and your bullshit spell, with being 1 level lower than the Finger, does 140 damage without any kind of chance to survive. Hell, with a bit of you you can kill both your mom and your grandma, while if I finger them I need 2 lvl 7 spells.

tl;dr: You are full of BS, caster fanboy.
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Sounds like multiclassing is the way to go. I actually just started this game not to long ago and made a Dual-wielding wood elf ranger. I can always respec via the console, what would be a good complement class?
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>>259594454
I don't play spellcasters, I just recognize that spellcasters being able to do tiny amounts of damage is not the end of the world in a game where I can make a Barbarian who charges around hitting people for 300 damage per hit with 95% accuracy.
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>>259570029
>>259570262
Yes, Storm of Zehir does make the evil ending canon. You can even ask OOM about his master and he says it's the only thing more terrible than him.
There was MASSIVE butthurt at old bioware nwn2 forums because of this. Mostly from biotards who masturbate about their ~Knight-Captain/Bishop~ fantasies. Sucks that the forum got nuked, shit was hilarious.

>>259572349
How old was she?
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>>259562212
>what are hybrids
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>>259594035
>Without he clan
Immersion ruined
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>>259561721
Truth. I practically failed out of high school because I spent so much time roleplaying on various servers. It was fucking great and I have no regrets.
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>>259594736
>Playing an elf
Faggot alert!
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>>259594965
Kinda sucks man.
All I wanted is to be a cool guy with my bros, not some kind of ancient evil that devours all and kills gods.
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>>259561721
Hey now, i liked the OC. Granted, i didn't have internet so i never got to taste the multiplayer. But it was the first proper D&D game i played and enjoyed.
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>>259594747
>I can make a Barbarian who charges around hitting people for 300 damage per hit with 95% accuracy.
You can't.

Also, your lvl 20 Barbarian, if you are a dwarf with high CON, like 22 (gimping your damage and AC) will have 360 HP (asuming 12 hp per dice, so, only in the video game). A maximized (lol, level 6+3) projectile spell does 240 force damge without save 100% of the time.

And you are defining that.
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>>259561721
>amazing multiplayer during its heyday.
My bros and me hosted a server with GMs all the afternoons and nights. Shit was awesome.
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Any good SP modules for NWN 2?
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>>259595968
There was one french module about ye olde roman times.
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>>259595772
>You can't.
Wanna bet?

Spirit Lion Totem Barbarian. +5 Valorous weapon + Shock Trooper + Leap Attack.

Power Attack for -20 and it all goes to AC thanks to Shock Trooper. That's 40 damage right there, which is multiplied by 3 thanks to Leap Attack's 2H clause... and then all the rest of the damage is multiplied by 2 thanks to Valorous. 240 damage before any other features.
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>>259596202
Like, the real world? No magic or anything?
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god damn it /v/, reinstalling nwn 1 first one to reply chooses what class I play ( except sorc, wizard, cleric,druid)
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>>259596908
There is SOME magic and spirits, its not just historical.
It tries to be historical with names and areas, but it is like the story told by a person who lived back there and believed in these things.
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>>259596937
Ranger.
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>>259594736
Remember to dual-wield the dual-wield.
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>>259597198
Right, ranger it is.

What race? First to reply
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>>259597318
dorf
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>>259597318
Dwarf
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>>259597318
Gnome.
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>>259597392
>>259597445
Dorf ranger it is, who am I gunna take as a companion? (anyone except that wizard ho)
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>>259597562
Halfwit Death.
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>>259596438
First, you need to charge and jump, so is only one attack.

Then you do 60 from power attack + your feats, +2 from lion totem, +5 weapon magic bonus, then you your weapon does doble damage, assuming a 2h sword, thats an average of 14. With +10 STR bonus (a lot, but rage + magic and shit) thats other 15.

60+2+5+14+15= 96.

You should learn the rules before theoryshiting. Also you have only +15 to hit, since you used all your bonus into power attack. That's really far from "95%" accuracy, unless you are fighting lvl 1 blind kobolds.
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>>259564724
Ladies please, You're both faggots
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>>259598031
The power attack bonus is taken from ac tho. Shock trooper.
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>>259598031
Are you incapable of reading what any of those do?

Spirit Lion Totem Barbarian gives you Pounce(full attack on a charge). Shock Trooper allows you to use AC penalties in place of attack bonus penalties when using Power Attack. Leap Attack triples the Power Attack bonus damage of anyone using 2H weapons. Valorous doubles your total damage on a charge.

+10 STR is also pussy shit for a Barbarian, who could start with 15 STR and still end up with 39 STR after raging.
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>>259598791
>>259598837
>Spirit Lion Totem Barbarian gives you Pounce(full attack on a charge)
In witch book? I call BS, is a skill for animals with 4 legs.
>Shock Trooper allows you to use AC penalties in place of attack bonus penalties when using Power Attack.
Well, that's true, I misread that. Still, you get like no AC during that turn.
>Leap Attack triples the Power Attack bonus damage of anyone using 2H weapons
That's the 60.
>Valorous doubles your total damage on a charge.
That's false. It works like a knight charging, you double your weapon damage (2d6 to 4d6) and then you add the bonuses after that.
>+10 STR is also pussy shit for a Barbarian
+10 Bonus, thats 30 STR, fagget.

Asuming 40 STR (15 bonus, 22 for 2hand)

60 from Power attack + feats (I ain't even sure if you can stack all, since they are different maneuvers, but w/e)
5 magic bonus
22 STR
14 4d6 average.
101 damage per attack (assuming no crits and that pounce bullshit)
Still, you ain't going to hit with your 4 attacks.
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>>259600671
>In witch book?
Complete Champion
>That's the 60.
"If you use this tactic with a two-handed weapon, you instead triple the extra damage from Power Attack." means to triple 40 damage from Power Attack.
>It works like a knight charging, you double your weapon damage (2d6 to 4d6) and then you add the bonuses after that.
That isn't how Spirited Charge works. Spirited Charge doubles the damage you deal period; that's why it makes lances do triple damage on a charge, which already deal double damage when doing this.
>+10 Bonus, thats 30 STR, fagget.
30 STR is a joke at level 20.
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>>259601812
>means to triple 40 damage from Power Attack.
You use the AC instead the hit penalty, but you can exceed your BAB.
>Spirited Charge doubles the damage you deal period
Weapon damage, you don't double/triple the magic bonuses, weapon specialization, power attack bonuses, etc. Is not granted crit.
>>259601812
>30 STR is a joke at level 20.
I gave you 40, want 50? then you go from 101 to to 109.

And you need yo charge and jump, so you can't do that shit every turn. Also you are going to get hit with the opportunity attacks from anybody with range.

Wanna fuck? We can get a room.
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>>259602771
>but you can exceed your BAB.
Power Attack with a 2H weapon for -20 = 40

40*20 = 120

And all of that IS weapon damage. They'd specify weapon dice if they meant that.
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>>259603008
You get 30 for 20, even if you triple it is 90, a whole 20 increase. 129 is Still really far from your 300 with 95% accuracy.

Even if I accept your theoryshiting (I wont let as GM since is all broken mechanics) you need to charge and leap every turn, witch is virtually impossible.
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>Virtually no game will let you play as kobold master race

Why even bother
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>>259604205
Kobolts are literally shit tier only popularized due DF's cutebolt scaly faggotry
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>>259604421
>kobolds used to be doglike and even bark like dogs
You can blame the arcade DnD games.
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