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You guys remember that shit with Ben Kuchera and Erik Kane? Well

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You guys remember that shit with Ben Kuchera and Erik Kane? Well looks like the tables have turned, Kuchera's latest article about torrenting an unreleased version of Star Wars.
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in case you needed a refresher
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>>258935461
Well anon also found Ben's ARS article promoting emulators for phones during The Legancy of Kain event. So he has a history.
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I do not remember that.

I was probably busy playing video games
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>>258935461
kuchera is going to say that starwars is not available of purchase (yet).
someone tell kain
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>>258936126
actually it appears he's just going to say this
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>>258935662
>trying to damage the career of an actual journalist because of stupid petty bullshit

What a scumbag. Actual journalists are not people like Ben Kuchera. Or anyone in the gaming press these days. I don't know where this glorified blogger gets off.

This shit brings my piss to a boil and it really shouldn't
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>>258936250
#rekt
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>>258936250
lel
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>>258936250

>YES,GAMER TEARS. SEND THEM TO ME.

What the fuck are all these assholes doing in this industry if they hate gamers so much?

What, is this more fallout because everyone more or less told them recently that they were GROSSLY FUCKING UNHAPPY with the way they run shit? Why don't they find other fucking jobs in another medium?
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>>258936250
That was hilarious
had to google what Rogaine is
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>>258937530
Can someone give me the easy step by step of whats going on?
Last year Kain said it was ok to pirate a old ass game that cant be bought anymore?
And the other guy got mad via twitter.
Now the tables have turned BUT, the game this time is a new star wars game?
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>>258938332
Star Wars movie cut or something, of like the original theatrical but in HD.
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>>258937530
>Why don't they find other fucking jobs in another medium?
They tried. Noone wants them. Do you think a guy like Kuchera could write for (say) the NY Times or something? Fuck, he'd not even get a job at the Daily Planet.
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>>258936250
Where do these petulant children get off? Fucking come to 4chan if you want to whine like a baby, but why the fuck does anyone let them away with this shit on twitter
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>>258935461
So now it's unethical to talk about pirating games.

Game Jouranlist bragged about that shit before.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/19/how-to-play-xenoblade-chronicles-if-you-live-in-america/
http://kotaku.com/5866481/how-to-play-wii-games-in-high-definition-on-your-pc
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>>258936250

Fucking rekt, well played Kain.
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>>258937530
>Why don't they find other fucking jobs in another medium?

Because they're so colossally unprofessional that no other medium would even consider them.
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Hundreds of years from now Twitter will be remembered as the worst invention of mankind.
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>>258936250
>You're a hypocrite
>Whahaha! Cry more, faggot.

What is wrong with these people? If you can't even fucking respond like a journo with facts and statements and shit, why respond at all? Why not just ignore "GAMERS" and their "TEARS" entirely?
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>>258935461
honestly it'd be really petty to write an actual article about it, but it's still amusing
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>>258939219
Ben Kuchera was probably the guy posted that infamous "Fun is a buzzword, don't use it." comment
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>>258936478

>Or anyone in the gaming press these days.

>these days

Don't kid yourself, the gaming press has always been made out of high school beta ass dropout nerds willing to take it up the ass.
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>>258939219
It's funny because buzzword is a buzzword at this point.
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>>258939219

>Mansplaining
>Rape Culture
>Privilege
>Slut-shaming
>Male power fantasy
>PATRIARCHY

I mean, if no buzzwords are allowed...
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Despecialized has been around for a while now, why is it just becoming news?
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>>258942217
Polygon and Kotaku have merged into one slow being
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>>258937530

>Why don't they find other fucking jobs in another medium?

That would imply that they could get jobs in another medium. No other medium is as unprofessional and manchildish like the game industry and game journalism.

Though to be honest, the way he debates is almost identical to the way most of anon debates on /v/. I wonder if he comes here.
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>Advocating straight piracy of a game is one thing. A transformative work of a film you've bought a few times? Very different.
>But if you think talking about fan edits is advocating piracy or will somehow hurt Lucasfilm or the creative work behind Star Wars? C'mon
This nigga...
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>>258942912
I wonder what Disney would have to say about it.
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>>258942912
Sounds to me like he's implying that piracy's ok only when he does it. Fuck this guy.
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If Kain really wants to hit him where it hurts, why not nail Kuchera for donating to Zoe Quinn's Patreon?
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>>258939184

>So now it's unethical to talk about pirating games.


It can get you in big trouble and possibly fired by your superiors.

Something as big as Star Wars and openly pirating anything under its franchise could get WSG in legal action with Disney. Erik Kain could get fired.

This asshole Kuchera though is going into the extreme and willing trying to fuck over Eric Kain. Petty elementary school shit. But hey, what do you expect from Videogame "Journalist"?
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>>258943646
Kuchera is the one pirating Star Wars, Kain talked about emulating old games, for which Kuchera tried to fuck him over.
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>>258942878
>Though to be honest, the way he debates is almost identical to the way most of anon debates on /v/. I wonder if he comes here.
Doesn't really matter if he comes here. Vidya players, thus journalists tend to be menchildren.
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>>258935662
"At the very least it's going to hurt his career"
Holy shit I'm raging so hard, just when i thought i couldn't hate that piece of shit kuchera even more.
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>>258944046
Kain was actually talking about how a previously unreleased SNES game was only available through emulation and provided evidence of this (you know, like a good journalist). Ben jumped on this as Kain advocating for piracy somehow
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Ben thread?
Ben thread.
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>>258937530
They wish they could have a real job but they are stuck sucking corporate dick while pretending to review games instead.
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What Star Wars game/content is being discussed here?
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>>258944724
this will always remain the quintessential ben kuchera, as well as a perfect summation of vidya journalism
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>>258945101
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was the original, unedited Star Wars movies that are rumored to get released soon.
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>>258945126

Is that David Willis artwork in his avatar?
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>>258940108
Because he gets off on the idea of an angry nerd on the other end of the screen.
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>>258945474
So he's a "u mad?" faggot who resorts to that once he's proven wrong
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>>258937530
I seriously hope all this Zoe Quinn business resonates around the entire industry, and scum like this get fired in favor of actual vidya enthusiasts who review games without an agenda.
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>>258945782
lol no. Enjoy your status quo
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>>258945782
What do you think is more likely to happen?
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>>258935461
>Instead of reporting on what could turn into the biggest clusterfuck showing how deep the corruption goes in Video game journalism. Kane decides to target someone he had a pissing match with in the past.

Told you this fucker abandoned us.
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>>258945342
>original unedited Star Wars movies
>rumored to get released soon
But I thought that George Lucas "taped over" the original copies.
>>258945704
Yeah, pretty much.
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>>258945402
>his

anyway, no idea about the artist, but what she said is as legit as it gets
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>>258945782
Given anytime anyone wants to bring this up and talk about the legitimate problems in the industry they're drowned out by millions of you faggots saying WHORE SLUT BITCH CUNT probably not.
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>>258945943
I don't think even George would be that stupid. That's billions of future dollars right there.
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>>258946308
george sold his business. He has no say in it anymore.
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>>258946160

Sorry, I didn't pay attention to the name, just what they said and their avatar
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>>258942878
>I wonder if he comes here.
I'd bet you you lots of game journos come here. I mean over on /co/ we got confirmation last night that a bunch of Comics Alliance people (and the creator of Potter Puppet Pals) read /co/ when we were calling them out because they were going on about having someone's dick pics that he sent to someone unsolicited with the only proof being "we've seen them, please believe is". I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Kotaku writers, Polygon douches and the like lurk /v/ if not actively post.

Nerd enthusiast journos are egotistical fucks and supremely childish so they'll always want to know what people are saying about them after all.
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>>258945342
It's a fanmade version of the original Star Wars, using the recent BD release as a base, then cutting in original scenes from other (older) sources and color correcting the remainder to make it look like the original (which Lucas is infamously unhappy with). A writeup talks about how Lucasarts would literally hunt down and destroy any 35mm release prints of the original film that pop up.

It's great for consumers but pretty much spits in the face of both the director's vision of his work (unanimously as bad as it may be) and rightsholders of the releases that were used to make this fanmade version.
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>>258947112
Well Anita and Zoe have used chans to make fake posts so.
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>>258947629
>rich guys aren't getting everything they want

boo-hoo
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>>258947985
The point is it's ironic that Kuchera would be advocating it when he condescendingly lambasted Kain for something arguably more benign.
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Any Star Wars experts here want to tell me if the despecialized versions are worth it?
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I think Fish and Kuchera are my two most hated people in this entire industry.
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>>258949080

Do it. They're very, very good. Much better than the shitty new versions. The guy that made them put out a documentary about how he did it.
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So Kuchera is a hypocrite?

What a fucking revelation.
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>>258950027
I own the VHS tape of the OT, so would it be safe to assume that this would be the VHS version upgraded to bluray quality?
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>>258936250
>love_that_yoshi
Are you gay anon? Like you want to hang out?
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>>258945943
Disney owns Star Wars now.
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>>258935662
>>258936250
This man's complete lack of professionalism is astounding.
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Was Kuchera ever this immature at Ars or has he just gotten worse over the years?
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>>258950878
Yeah, I know they do, but it was kind of implied that Lucas made damn sure the original cut didn't exist anymore.
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>>258950998
The sad thing is that he's tame compared to some of the other people in his field.
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>>258945943
>>258950878
Disney owns MOST of the Star Wars rights. One of the few things Fox still has control over is the home distribution rights of the original trilogy, which is currently blocking Disney's plans to re-relase the original, unaltered trilogy on Blu-Ray.
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>>258951034

Wasn't he the guy he threw a gigantic tantrum when people accused him of being biased towards Apple?
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>>258951034
At Ars he was never childish. He had a good editor (Caesar) keep him in line. He fell out of it at PAR.
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>>258951285
That's pretty dickish of Fox, considering the fanbase's demand for an unaltered cut. Then again, since when did Fox ever listen to the fans of the shit they produce?
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>>258951285
how did she get so fit?
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>>258951285
>currently blocking Disney's plans to re-relase the original, unaltered trilogy on Blu-Ray.

The hell? Source?
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WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT THESE JOURNALIST FAGGOTS

WHAT IS THIS UNRELEASED STAR WARS GAME ABOUT
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>>258951285
I'd have her lay down on her back and I would kneel to her side and place my dick between her second and third row of abs, right on top her belly button. Then I'd have her do crunches while I slowly thrust whenever she curls upward.
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>>258951565
>>258951520

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/13342/20140818/unaltered-star-wars-trilogy-may-be-coming-to-blu-ray.htm

Disney realizes how much people want this and it would be an easy way to help build hype on the road to Episode 7 but Fox isn't giving up or sharing the rights.
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>>258952056

Shouldn't the rights revert after a set amount of time?
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>>258952268
Yeah, in 2020.
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My first thought when reading this thread was "Oh, that washed up skateboarder is twittering about video games now?"
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I'd like to point out that Ben's "pirate star wars" article is on Polygon... Star Wars is a Film.
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>>258950359


Its the Bluray copies edited with LaserDisc and Filmreel transfers, along with the 2004 dvd release of the OT.

They don't use VHS shit.
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>>258952639
But how is that version of star wars unreleased? I thought they made some DVDs out of the Laserdiscs which were before the remasters.
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>>258952539
Eric Koston is washed up?
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>>258952452
>star wars will never release in your lifetime
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>>258941390
The golden days of game journalism were EGM back in the 90's with Dan Hsu.

Was also when Seanbaby was at his best IMO
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>>258936250

i was disappointed when i realized that final tweet wasn't from empty hero. what happened to that guy?
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>>258937530
>Why don't they find other fucking jobs in another medium?

Because most gaming "journalists" are so woefully unqualified for any real job related to that field it's hilarious. There's a reason 99% of them bounce around between different magazines and sites and never move on to write for newspapers or non-gaming publications.

They're still high school children, the lot of them, and it's exactly why no other medium cares about this oppressive SJW bullshit, but it has a toehold everywhere in gaming.
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>>258935461
Wow, how much of an asshole can Kuchera be?
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>>258947112
I know that stupid fuck Ashcraft uses 2ch as pretty much his sole source of information, wouldn't be surprised if journos go here too.
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>>258952990
>>258952934
>>258952639


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfLX_TMduY#t=41


Harmey's Despecialized Edition is fucking legit guys.

Its allmost disgraceful that its promoted by that fuckwit.
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>>258953592
Oh fuck, what's the Shoe doing these days? I haven't heard from him in years.
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>>258953921
Checked out his wiki page apparently hes editor at Gamesbeat
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>>258953659


He made the Zoe Quinn simulator

Hasn't tweeted in a while though
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>>258951285
Who is this cum chum?
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>>258954912

Park Soo Hee
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>>258945782
Fired by who exactly the people you hate so much are the exact same people in charge
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>>258953914
I don't understand why old George decided to fuck with hundreds upon hundreds of minor details in his editing of Star Wars over the last 3 decades when every single one of his changes are retarded.
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>>258952056
So why doesn't Fox just do it?
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>>258935461
The more I see stuff like this the more it reminds me of middle/high school girl drama
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>>258947629
Why on earth would they destroy them? These things need to be archived, for fuck's sake. Preservation of art??????????
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>>258939219
>argue it
>LOL U MAD VIRGIN BLOCKED LOL SHOWED THAT SHITLORD

Yeah that works so well before kuchera, fuck you
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>>258958008
Same reason 90% of films made before 1930 are lost forever. They don't think about the future.
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>>258939219

We have to use buzzwords because there's no content to argue.
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>>258958680
No, it's not the same reason. Did you even read the post and what it was replying to? George Lucas going around purposely destroying original prints of the film is not at all the same thing as pre 1930 films not being stored correctly/carelessness.
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>>258956908
George Lucas is a perfectionist.

During production of the original trilogy, he had other people on staff to override some of his dumber ideas. When opportunities came along to re-release the films, such as new technology or anniversary editions, he insisted that only his "improved" versions were the only ones allowed to be released.

He also takes the view that since he made the movie, it's his story, and anything he says or changes is the definitive edition. Horribly ironic since much of the popularity of Star Wars depends on work by other authors, EU games, and even fanfiction, which Lucas has not hesitated to ignore and retcon when convienient.
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>>258937530
>What the fuck are all these assholes doing in this industry if they hate gamers so much?

This is the most hilarious thing. They fucking HATE gamers. Remember Mass Effect 3?
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Why does the industry hate its consumers so much
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>>258960268
this guy needs to be ignored
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>>258960268
Literally petulant children whose parents never told them no.
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>>258960268
because they never learned how to not be self-righteous faggots. They grew up pampered by liberal parents and being told they were special by the media.
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>>258947112

Just read up on that, ahaha, jesus christ. The guy got called home with harassing calls and they're all saying "Yeah fuck him he deserves it".
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>>258945126
God damn, that is too perfect to be real. This is god damn. Wow.
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>>258960268
Did Phil Fish have a father figure?
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>>258960268
>tfw my hasubando is following him and there's nothing I can do
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>>258963159
If by "father figure," you mean "a bunch of assholes he thought were cool and started acting like an asshole in order to fit in with them," then yes.
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>>258953212
2020 is 6 years away
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>>258963159
yeah, himself
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>>258963461
Git gud taste in men you betamax tape
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>>258959952
They want consumers to be mindless yards coloring between lines, browsing with IE, pre ordering games, voting for less regulations on corporations
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> all these journalists who hate gamers

Is there any other industry where the press keeps shitting on those who enjoy this hobby? Seriously I used to think journalists had my interests in mind but over time it's gotten worse and worse with allegations of entitlement and hatred of gamers. What the fuck happened to vidya news?
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>>258964784
Every industry has its black sheep. Usually they're identified as "nerds". In the gaming industry it's just "gamers". All the more reason to not use this terrible, idiotic, laughable term.
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>>258964163
but he just doesn't know, he's just so casual I need to teach him
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>>258964784
Of course they hate gamers.
Gamers actually play games, have better informed opinions on them and the people who make them, and are more skilled at playing them too.
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>>258964784
It got overrun with SJW. We warned you. We warned you and you didnt listen.

SJW are not gamers they are political activists trying to manipulate the media.
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>>258938332
No, if I remember correctly it wasn't about torrents at all. Kain wrote and article about emulation. Then Kuchera started bitching about him condoning piracy because he think that all emulation is piracy, not being aware that if you own a game it is perfectly legal to rip it and run it on an emulator. That's the backstory as far as I know.
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>>258959952
Its pretty logical. SJW said they wanted to take over the last frontier of masculinity which was gaming and force a change.
Its not surprising they hate gamers. Gamers are the thing they have been fighting all long in their warped minds.
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>>258960268


Holy shit, did he just delete his twitter page?
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>>258963461

90% of his followers do it to laugh at him.
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>>258966873
yeah right...90% isn't /v/, the majority thinks Fez is a good game.
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>>258965078


well, congratulation your work is done

because Phill_Fish just deleted his twitter


anyone who was a confirmed follower manage to save the screencaps of his last posts?
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>>258967026
wtf is Fez?
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>>258957525
Fox isn't giving up the rights until Disney gives up the shekels.
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https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/502240462078767105'

Oh look she is faking being hacked again. Again the shit looks nothing like a 4chan persons email. Love all the > arrows that measn its 4cahn right.
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>>258966828

stop
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>>258967116
Someone should make a deus ex style game where you have to unravel a sjw conspiracy.
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>>258936250

>I WILL SHOW YOU HOW NOT MAD I AM BY TYPING IN ALL CAPS

That's like the immediate refuge of all butthurt faggots.
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>>258967116
Those arrows are just how some shitty old mail clients show messages when you're responding to them.
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>>258967443
Yeah thats why they STOP at the end.

Look closer at that picture, the shit isnt adding up in it.

its like she is doing this in the daft window
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>>258967365
They cannot be contained in a game. Their kind will spill into the streets and forsaken men will rattle their cages, their testicles sawed off, asking for our help.
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>>258967116
Albeit I don't agree with how it is presented, that's some fantastic advice.
Just. stand. back.
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>>258967116
nope this one's real, they are a faggot who can't afford any non-f2p games

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198115134494

so yeah, this is an actual faggot
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>>258963461

Blowfish deleted his twitter.
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>>258967653
That's the reply...
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>>258967653
They stop at the end because that's the response she wrote to the message. The parts with the arrows are the message she received, the part without at the bottom is her typed response to it.
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>>258967749
You see this is when the game becomes like silent hill
>psycho sexual horror
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>>258967116
>Some of the comments are great.

>Like someone acting alone WHO COULD IT BE
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>>258967116
One of the earliest habits that people here pick up is never using first person terms. Almost never saying "I" or "me" or the like. They don't necessarily say 'we' either, like they're part of a collective, just tending to avoid all of that altogether. They write around it. It's an easy way of telling a fake from the genuine article.
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He actually deleting his twitter.
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>>258967916
>wandering husks, eyeless faces, moaning as they race up to you and pin you down
>"Only men can be raped," they utter before they swarm you
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>>258968016
Sadly that never happens. It's an ideal hold by a few, vocal people, which I also belong to, but by no means standard.
It's also an email about a personal experience. Not a random post on 4chan. And even there 'I' and 'me' would still be used. Look at any screencap.
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>>258967843
>http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198115134494

Follow the trail for freinds Bet that turns up some interesting stuff.

Aslo how do you know its this person? I doubt someone that cant afford games could afford a comp to hack with.
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>>258968269
I just googled them, of his two friends one is from /jp/, so it's probably them
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>>258967116
>Or end up as a loser that will probably never see the light

Phil Fish confirmed hacker.
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>>258967103
He meant why doesn't fox just release the blu-rays themselves. My best guess would be that fox is sitting on them hoping that Disney will offer up enough cash to make them want to sell.
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>>258960381
Considering he deleted his twitter account again, that'll be easy.
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>>258967084
A hat
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>>258968829
That would make sense, and I honestly can't get mad at them for doing it, considering Disney would do the exact same thing in their situation.
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>>258967084
Wasn't he a character on That 70's show?
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>>258968829
Fox had to go through approval for Lucas to release anything. Now that he gave it all to do Disney, Fox can release a theatrical set but they're using it to make big bucks from Disney
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https://soundcloud.com/ben-kuchera/jaffe-confrontation

At least Jaffe still knows shit when he smells it.
>>
Why do we care?

On average, /v/ is not anti piracy, and since it is impossible to view the film otherwise,there is a historical/archival reason to do it.

I feel like you all are just pissing and moaning for the sake of it
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>>258969365
That was Fes.
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>>258969365
>anyone caring about a dead show from 40 years ago
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>>258969494
Problem is that this guy is a vulgar hypocrite. Please read the thread.
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>>258969614
That 70's show aired in the 90s.
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>>258939219
Prime example of why anybody who says "just ignore it" are gigantic cunts and deserve to be shit on with all our fury. That goes exceptionally so for the faggots that say that shit here, the shitposters and virallers and everything else. Killing spambots and stupid shit like dubs killed our refuge against these people just because a few niggers abused those things.
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>>258969682
I'm aware and I see that, and I despise hypocrpisy as well, but the majority of comments I see in the thread are about the piracy issue, not him being a hypocrite.
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>>258969593
That was a pun.
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>>258969720
here comes the That 70's Show Defence Force again, shilling as usual.
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>>258969614

There were some good episodes.
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Ben Kuchera has a diaper fetish
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>>258937530
>>258964784

>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR-A PLAYING MY GAME

Those were the days, huh?
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In other news, the petition is only 39 signatures away from 2000.

http://www.change.org/p/nick-denton-recognize-nathan-grayson-s-lack-of-journalistic-integrity

I'm certain it will be complete by the time everyone wakes up and shit kicks off again today and tonight. I hope it becomes a hot topic.
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>>258969997
that DOES look like a good episode
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>>258960268
Because they think they are artists.

Check out what they think is art otherwise. Some junkie broad shoving pasta up her cunt or some faggot like anthony burch shitting in a trumpet and having his lesbian wife play the american national anthem on it.


They are complete fucking retard lunatics. And all based in california, the state famous for it's crazy cults and weird people.
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>>258969997
That's obviously a porn parody
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>>258969857
T70SIDF
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>>258963159

He's probably the son of a Duplessis kid.
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>>258936250
Wrekt.
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I wish I got paid to hate people.
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>>258967116
nigga just look away from the monitor lol
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>>258935461
>tables
>turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_2hpI1yiqk
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>>258970759
I do it for free
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>>258941390
at least when it was young all journalists did was sperg about games they liked.
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I miss old Nintendo Power
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>>258939219
My instincts tell me things shouldn't be this awful
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>>258951285
This picture is absolutely disgusting.
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>>258969997
lol, I just checked this out. Hilarious.
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I have no idea what's going on, but Erik sounds like scum. People should be paid for their time and products they develop. You wouldn't download a car.
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>>258970298
first time I've actually signed something like this. What is happening to me?
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>>258972161
Ben is no different. Both are jerks, but Ben Kuchera is WAY worse.
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>>258972161
The people are all dead and gone, should he just immolate the payment or does he have to exhume their corpses so he can rebury them with the 5 bucks their game is worth?
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>>258972161
You just wait until we get big enough 3D printers.

Also historic archival is a very important thing. Think of how much history the internet alone has lost. Things the world at large will never see or know, or the lessons learned from them.
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>>258972161
>You wouldn't download a car.

you kiddin? Soon as 3D Printing gets that easy I'm gonna pirate myself a fucking NASCAR circuit
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Am I the only person on /v/ who respects Erik Kain as a journalist?
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I MUST KNOW ONE THING

Does this version of Star Wars exist?
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>>258972917
I'm sure there are others.

But remember, this guy also supported the anita scam. I don't think he's corrupt, but he sure ain't smart.
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>>258973220
Yeah, it's been a thing for a while. Harmy's Despecialized Edition or something like that
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>>258972161
I would totally download a car if I could
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Kuchera

Remember /v/

Be

Subtle
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>>258937530
You don't have to hate all gamers for hating a particular subset.

For example, I can hate people who freak out about the newest Fox-News-esque talking point and make twenty thousand threads about it on /v/.
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>>258938332
Kain wrote an article about some SNES game that never came out, and said it was good and suggested using an emulator to play it. Kuchera got super butthurt about it and went on the warpath against Kain, saying he advocates piracy and should be blackballed. Then anon found that Kuchera had written articles painting ROMs in a positive light before, and Kuchera just responded by basically responding to everyone with "u mad?"
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>>258945932
He said something today about how he had a lot of research to do before he would decide whether to speak on the Quinn thing.
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>>258960268
It's terrible at the two extremes, both Indie devs and BIG VIDYA companies are pretty fucking awful.

The middle ground is shrinking, but there are still decent indies and decent companies (mostly the smaller ones) that are around. Too bad they get drowned out in all this shit and manufactured controversy.
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>>258973917
That should be deleted for irrelevancy.
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