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Is gaming journalism well and truly corrupt?

I would like /v/'s honest opinion.

Can it be saved? Is it worth saving? What can we do?
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Yes, no, no, nothing
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>>258620470
OP here, any proof of corruption would also be appreciated, I think we need to talk about it
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>>258620470
Many are. Not all, but many. Just due to the system in place, not really from some actually backstabbing bribes.
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Sadly, mods may delete this thread because they're just as corrupt as the other journalist sites. They just deleted two threads about the "you know what" scandal.
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Gaming journalism isn't genuine journalism.
That's the reason why you can't call it corrupt: its function is to sell you games. Nothing more.

So no, no and nothing.
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>gaming journalism
>journalism

It's nothing but thinly veiled ads. It'll never have any sort of journalistic standards.
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Yes
No
No
Nothing
Why should i care what 'journalists' think about the game, I'm the one playing it.

inb4 thread being deleted.
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>>258620470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
yes let it die
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I don't personally care. I just play the video games.
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>>258620698

>386 posts

They let it have a run before it degenerated.
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>>258620470
>gaming "journalism"

It's like those pages in magazines that look like real articles that are actually ads, except make that an entire industry.
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>>258620698
But to answer your question op, yes "gaming journalism" is corrupt but so are all forms of media. It's very possible to save it but it's not likely at this point.
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>>258620619
From a thread that got deleted a few minutes ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M#t=158
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>>258620826
I'm gonna blow the whole thing down

i'm gonna bring the whole fucking diseased corrupt temple down on your head

its gonna be biblical
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Yes, No, No, Nothing.

It's literally blogging for clicks.
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Obligatory
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This thread will be gone in a few minutes
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>>258620923
YOOOOO that guy is still posting new threads. Gods work my man. GODS WORK
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>>258620708

Unless a group of people with the heart of Gaben create geniun journalism.
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Hey friends here's a fun little tip for you!
If you see a thread you believe isn't about video games on /v/ then you:
>Report it
>Hide it
>Move on
But remember kids the absolute worst thing you can do is reply to it especially if you happen to be bumping the thread in the process! And never forget it's the Mod's and Janitor's job to decide what is and isn't vidya not yours!
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>>258620838
Your video games are going to be raped if these people have their way.
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>>258620826
I want it all to burn
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>>258620470
gaming COLUMNISTS are corrupt if that's what you're asking
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if we don't take action now, we settle for nothing later
let's bring em down /v/
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better question, are nether regions of the internet that used to discuss gaming and its context freely also well and truly corrupt??
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>>258620698

That would be really sad, especially since the 'you know what' scandal is more relevant to gaming and game journalism than 80% of /v/ threads at any given time.

>Scandal about game journalist and associated employer possibly having shit integrity
>NO NO NO NOT RELEVANT
>right next to that thread: BIGGEST TITS IN VIDYA ITT, CLAIM YOUR WAIFU IN VIDYA

This is entirely relevant and shouldn't be deleted. Only proves /v/ is containment and nothing more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
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POOL RULES:
>stay on topic
>no ad hominem attacks (including Anons, Zoe, etc.)
>no insulting the mods (this is the quickest way to get your thread deleted, they're very touchy)
>if someone tells you this isn't vidya, ignore them
>STAY ON TOPIC
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>>258620826
>>258620923

Alright, this is what we're really here for anyway.

DISCUSS THIS WITHOUT MEMESPOUTING AND IGNORE ANY SJWS OR BAWW-OFFTOPIC WHINERS

I was in the last thread and made this to avoid the shitflinging.

I want to know more about the guys whom claim Quinn doxxed them and ruined their women's/charity game jam.
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>>258621007
>Video game journalism
>Not vidya later
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>>258621029
They won't be.
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>>258621007

I decide this is videogame related
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sjw mods pls go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
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>>258620971
you have to understand

the score isn't referring to how good the game is at a whole

just how good it would be to its primary audience

for the starters, party babies is aimed at moronic retards who actually think the score means anything
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>>258621130
Yes, well, you go first, Allah akbar
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>>258620698

It isn't corruption when a woman does it :^)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
what can we do guys?
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Speaking of video game journalism and its relevance to video games did you guys get a load of this chick. Holy moley!
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>>258620470
Go throw up facts on twitter tags that retards parse through.

Go bomb comments sections of gaming sites with the evidence of all this BS that's been happening.

Go email off the facts with sources to people you might still consider trustworthy or even hungry enough to run an article on it.

Just make this shit explode.
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For a bunch of people who hate gaming journalism, you all sure care a hell of a lot about it.
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>>258621170
>no ad hominem attacks (including Anons, Zoe, etc.)
This has never been against the rules, we'll scream abusive nonsense on our board as much as we want.
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More developers need things like Nintendo Directs. Send us YOUR message, don't let ANYONE ELSE send it for you.

If you're trusting someone else with your art, you cannot be fucking trusted, just like the journalist cannot be fucking trusted.
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I (PC only) read pretty much 4chan, PCGamesN, Eurogamer, and Gamesindustry.biz only

bit of twitter and youtube

ignore most scores, personal opinions, etc

just sorta mix and match general opinions of multiple people, and other people playing the games to see how they play
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>>258621212

Publishers hire markets which will take in to account what journalists say.

It can happen, games have caved in before.
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I really don't want to make meta posts but can the mods at least try to clarify why these are being deleted? Gaming "jounalism" is reaching a critical point and as IA's video made pretty clear even for retards saying otherwise, it IS tampering with the medium as a whole.
THIS IS VIDEO GAMES
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Remember to contact [email protected] concerning the mod censorship occurring in /v/
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>>258621212
They already are. For examples, see Bioware and over half of indie games.
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>>258620470

Tl;dr, no, it would have to be torn up by its very roots in order to be salvaged.
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>>258621171
do some research then

just pretend you're in school anon, do some fucking research
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>>258621327
Then you'll have another deleted thread on your hands.
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>>258620470
I really hope the you know what finally wakes up some people to how fucking screwy and conceited gaming sites can be.
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>>258621323
I don't hate gaming journalism. In fact, I can say that at one time, I loved it.

I hate what it's become.

Even more so, I hate MYSELF for letting it happen.

We can fix this. This scandal is just the proof we need to force change.
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Remember
>he does it for free
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>>258620815
because journalists determine what casuals care about, which in turn determines how all games are made

news flash, no one gives a shit about you as an individual. they care about what the majority's wallet says

if the vocal majority says having a penis is a sin, then guess what
it is
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Thanks for ruining video games, tumblr. I just don't care anymore. Someone put me in an arwing and ship me off to corneria. Constant war is better than watching my favorite hobby die.
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>>258620470
Speaking of gaming journalism, can you show me some of the most disgustingly bad examples?

Ideally blatantly paid reviews or similar, rather than SJW nonsense.

I need it for research purposes. (Not serious research, just personal research for my own interests.)
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>>258621373
>can the mods at least try to clarify why these are being deleted?
Holy shit.
If you really need it spelled out for you, then get off of 4chan.
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>>258620470
Even /v/ is corrupt.
Check this out:
"Five Burgers"
in b4 delete post
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>>258621374
When shitposters start getting this butthurt you know mods are doing something right.
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REMINDER THAT MODS ARE DELETING THREADS RELATED TO ZOE QUINN
REPOST ALL ZOE QUINN INFO
FUCK MODS
http://imgur.com/a/4VOcx
http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
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>>258621309
/v/ can't do this, /v/ is a shithole, they can't rally to save ANYTHING they love

they sit on their hands and cry about their hobby being killed while lifting naught a finger to help save it
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>>258620826
DELETE THIS LINK NOW!
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>>258621410
>Don't break the rules
>Stay on topic
>Thread deleted because you're being a big meanie pants >:c
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>>258620470
It's all done. I'll still watch Yahtzee. Most of the time, he's a straight shooter with conviction
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>>258620470
>Is gaming journalism well and truly corrupt?

Yes, with the fallout of Gone Home winning every award under the sun and the recent Quinnsiracy it is clearly apparent that it is one big circle jerk.

>Can it be saved?
No.

>Is it worth saving?
No.

What can we do?
Just don't listen to them, ignore them. Let them die off just like gossip magazines.
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>>258621327

That's why I said pool rules. It implies "if you don't do those, you're not gonna get arrested but you are going to have a bad time. I can't stop you. You need to stop yourself." We get nowhere if we just keep posting Five Guys jokes.

These people already fucked up:
>>258621197
>>258621229
>>258621234
And if we continue, this thread's going to get deleted. Hopefully the other thread will corral the retards and this one will have the people who know how to behave themselves.
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>thread spiraling into notvidya shitposting again
Just proves that /v/ can't handle these kinds of discussions.

Shut it down, OP.
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>>258621323
I care about my hobby being fucked over by people who are have sex with others in the industry to further each other's careers and bully others to get what they want
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Why doesn't /v/ start their own video game journalism website if they don't like the state of video game journalism?

top lel
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In the review embargo sense, yes
In the sjw sense, yes but there is a mounting outcry against it
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>>258621323
like it or not we are on the boat video games. and this people are the public face of it
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>>258621171
Here is their channel. Funny thing is they seem to be pro-femisim and Zoe still went after for no reason whatsoever. Is retarded the amount of power that woman has.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChwoDCOjliin3x0Y_ShiGGw

they wanted to help women make games and Zoe shut them down.
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>>258621650
>/v/
>doing anything of worth
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HE DOESNT DO IT FOR FREE
HE DOES IT FOR ZOE'S PUSSY
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>>258621483
Then go right ahead, this is vidya related and I see no reason why it should be deleted.
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>>258620470

No its fucked. Unsalvageable. Everything needs to be torn down and built back up from scratch, which wont happen, at least not by us or any one group of people. It'll just collapse in on itself eventually, hopefully.
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Whores being whores is not video games even if they are game "devs." Take it to /b/ where it belongs.
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A few months ago I had a serious intention of buying some web hosting and creating my own gaming site. Just reviews, though. No blog shit, no "gaming culture" tripe...just reviews of games I was playing or had finished. I decided against it, especially since we already had p4r which I thought filled the niche well enough.

All of this is making me consider it again, though. Web hosting is pretty cheap, all things considered, so if nothing else it could be a pet project, even if I don't get many/any readers.
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I still remember Kane and Lynch.
I still remember IGN God Hand.
I still remember Gamespot Freedom Unite.
This has been a huge problem for so damn long and it seems every time the issue pops up there's always this little group of loud people telling you to shut up and don't dare talk about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW5PF9yGLhk
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>>258621605
Just because we ignore them doesn't mean casuals will.

The vocal minority says Dark Souls 2 is a terrible, awful game that isn't worth your time in the least. Guess what infrequent /v/ posters listen to.
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>>258621650
They tried, it turned out fucking stupid because SURPRISE, /v/ is just as retarded as the people it makes fun of.
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>>258621607
>behave

Which board do you think you're on right now? Fuck off back to leddit.
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>>258621246
>The art direction is very appealing, though a bit immature for the game's content.
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>>258621726
Do it anon, if none of us try all of us fail
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Boy I'm sure glad this Zoe Quinn nobody will now become a prominent figure in the video game industry after all the attention she's getting. Please repost more, o bold crusaders.
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>>258620470
Oi indykaila, Vidal to United when?
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>>258621650

They did. That's how we got Gather Your Party, which is an equally horrible site for a completely different set of reasons.
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>>258621569
I forget.

/v/ liked Yahtzee, then hated him because he got really popular, then some people started to say they liked him just to troll/spite the rest of /v/.

He's still relatively popular, so I guess /v/ hates him, but I don't even know anymore.
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journalism is dying and nowadays no one can trust (and shouldn't immediately trust) what they read.

Vidya journalism died with the last copy of Game Players
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>>258620470
It's nothing but a puppeteered corpse now.
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Are there any websites that cover the exact same game/anime/japan beat that Kotaku does, but without the SJW cancer and click bait?
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IF OBJECT TO THIS THREAD REPORT IT AND MOVE ON. THIS IS MY ONLY ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO THE SHIT POSTERS AND OTHERS SHOULD FOLLOW SUIT. I REPEAT IGNORE THEM.

>>258621675
Thank you for posting that anon I will check it out.

Yes I agree it is really strange that they are kinda 'on the same side' and yet Zoe shut them down.

I heard Zoe is doing her own Game Jam and getting money for it somehow? What's that all about?
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>>258621607
Then lets talk about this shit then. because this shit is serious. We let this shit go on for years and we cant sit idly by and let this shit continue.
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>OP tries to honestly make a decent thread for discussion to actually occur in
>/v/'s rampant shitposting armada flood it and try to start shit yet again

I-it's our culture!
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>>258620470
Yes

No hell has a better chance of being saved. It is not worth saving. Nothing.
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>>258621832

You can't just ignore it and hope it goes away, because it wont. Even if nobody talked about it she'd continue doing what she does and rising higher and higher.

Nothing is ever fixed by looking the other way.
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I never really paid much attention to what journalists say, ever. I honestly could care less if they find something offensive, or if they think a game is good or not. I'll be the judge of that, depending on if I want to even play the game in the first place. That being said, I really don't want to see the gaming industry become effected by these people. Admittedly, most of the games I play are from Japan, and they generally don't give a fuck what anyone says, but I still don't like the idea of a small group of people dictating what kinds of games are made.
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Yellow journalism exists fucking everywhere now, not just in video games
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>>258621650
gatheryourparty already exists.
It sucks because they're too safe and not sensationalist enough.
If there's one thing that clickbaits better than telling people the games they hate are perfect and to stop bitching, it's telling people the games they love are complete shit.
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>>258621832
Yes anon, exposing someone makes them a prominent figure. You're fucking retarded.
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Very fucking relevant video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M

How many SJW shit mods are we going to have to complain about before moot purges these assholes?
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>>258621650

since Videogame Journalism is partially corrupted by publishers who won't send play test discs unless the review is to their liking /v/ would rather shoot itself in the foot then suck corporate dick just to spark videogame journalism that wasn't about feminism.
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>>258621950
watch the IA vid
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>>258621996
Making a dozen threads on /v/ and making epic maymays isn't going to do shit, /v/ is a hugbox and nothing that happens here is ever productive in any way. You want to make a difference, do it somewhere else. /v/ is just an echo chamber.
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>>258621728
It goes back even further, anon. I remember Amiga Power/Team17.
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>>258621969
shut the fuck up and contribute you halfwit

>>258621950
she's a money hungry whore who realized just how corrupt all the shit we're talking about really is
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>>258621705
Who's talking about whores here?
This is a gaming press thread.
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is anyone contacting kain?
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The only way to rob them of their power is to completely fucking ignore them
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>>258622131
Kane and Lynch is what woke me up.
I've seen many older cases of corruption and even a 2-page piece from the Atari era of how fucked the press is.
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>>258621969
SRS and white knights are known to infest populated boards on 4chan to try and quell any "riots" against their masters
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This whole thing reminds me of what happened to the creator of the cartoon "Clarence", Skyler Page.
Of course, since he is the one accuesed, and for being male, he got shit on by everyone
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Glad other sites are discussing this.
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/pol/ was right again!
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>>258622226

>Erik Kain

the hero this city needs, but not the one it deserves
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>>258622235
No, I don't believe that. We tried to ignore them and we allowed this to happen.

If you ignore scandals and corruption it will only worsen.

Knowledge is power. Pretending nothing is wrong won't fix anything.
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>>258621950
THE VIDEOS ARE RELEVANT BECAUSE THEY POINT OUT HOW CORRUPT THE INDUSTRY HAS BECOME

IF CALLING INTO QUESTION THE MORALITY OF THE VERY INDUSTRY THAT PRODUCES VIDEO GAMES ISN'T VIDEO GAME RELATED THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS
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>>258622268
0/10, you couldn't start a shitstorm with a leafblower and a bag of manure.
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>>258622268

as if /q/ wasn't enough proof.
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I found that I've become much happier once I just stopped caring about shitty gaming journalism/culture/SJWs
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>>258621705
No one gives a shit about her being an unloyal slut except for /r9k/ faggots. It's about her using those relationships to boost her own agenda. Same shit happened with Dina of Mighty No. 9
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>>258621138
I agree completely, Anon. With how corrupt gaming journalism has become, devs won't even have to attempt to make good games in the future. They can just fuck their way to the top, and they'll get a GOTY like Gone Home. Not only will they have an "award" for making fucking nothing, but they will have an audience to eat their shit up.

Look at how retarded Dragon Age: Inquisition looks. Look at how stupid it looks when you try to integrate modern ideals into a setting that's derived from MIDDLE EARTH. On the other hand, Witcher 3 gets slammed by SJWs even though it paints a much more accurate picture of "Ye Olde" culture than DA:I.

SJWs are a cancer. They hold back developers from creating enthralling worlds, and they are only content with women's power fantasies. Look at that one Shitaku article that focuses on how straight white men shouldn't play as themselves. Video games have had players play as aliens, skeletons, gods, and demons, yet these cunts get upset because some guy wants to play as an accurate representation of himself in an RPG? This is related to video games, /v/. If this issue isn't dealt with ASAP, then video games will become worse.
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>>258622226
I think he tweeted about having read the stuff
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>>258622235
We've been "ignoring" them for 5 years and look where it left us?
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>>258621950
I dont know about the gamejam. But these "journalist: and indie are definitely covering for each other. With AAA at least i know what to expect.
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>>258622310
>>258622226
/v/ threw Kain under the bus, plus there's not nearly enough evidence for this to be newsworthy, especially not Forbes.
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>>258622235
No, there is no way to rob their power. It's over, they've won. They have a mainstream readerbase we'll never be able to influence, and if we try to discredit them they can just keep peddling their usual "gamers are misogynist bullies" line and everyone will lap it up.
Just move on. Good games will still come out at least sometimes, we just won't be able to trust what the "journalists" are saying about them.
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>>258621950
Remember, they do it for free guys.
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>>258620470
Why haven't some /v/irgins made a gayming jernalizm site that wasn't full of SJW bullshit, non-games and biased reviews? It seems like a logical step forward, sense most of /v/ hates modern gaming journalism.
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>>258622032
It doesn't matter. The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about. Publicity is a wonderful thing and you're unwillingly being the helpful idiot by making sure everyone knows who Zoe Quinn is. And the next time she releases a game, it's get ten times the attention purely due to brand recognition. It doesn't matter whether it's positive or not, people will get it through sheer curiosity and "journalists" will report on it because everyone knows the person behind it. There's a reason why celebrities thrive on scandals.
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>>258622459

>not enough evidence

the original post named names, specifically Grayson, this is plenty of evidence
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>>258622235
fuck no thats complete bullshit
ignoring them is what got us to this point, we are as much at fault as they are
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>>258622478
I really, really like this image.
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>mods are on their side

What can be done? I'm counting down how long mods delete this thread because they want to sweep everything under the rug for God knows whatever reason
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>>258620470
They keep deleting the threads. /v/ is compromised
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>>258622235
>ignore them
>the retarded masses listne to their made up infograms

NO YOU FUCKING RETARD LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS DOESN"T FUCKING WORK AND NEVER WILL

MAYBE YOU"RE CONTENT WITH BEING A FUCKING PANSY AND SITTING ON YOUR ASS BUT IN REALITY IT ONLY HURTS, WHAT YOU AND YOUR FILTHY COCK FOR BRAINS ILK SHOULD BE DOING IS GATHERING FACTS AND PRESENTING THEM NOT TO THE RETARDED SJWs BUT TO THE MASSES, WHEN THE SJWs COME WITH THEIR "FACTS" AND THEIR "INFORMATION" ASK THEM TO CITE IT, ASK THEM TO SHOW THEIR SORUCES AND THEN REND THEIR SHITTY BIASED ARTICLES TO SHERDS INFRONT OF THE MASSES

WIN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE MASSES NOT YOUR ENEMIES YOU STUPID SACK OF DOGSHIT WRAPPED IN DRIED SEMEN RAGS

GODDAMN I'M ANGRY
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>>258622235
It doesn't matter if we stop talking about it, they'll always have attention, and they'll always have fuel, news flash fuckwit, we aren't the only website with people who don't like this shit.
Shutting up helps in no way, fighting and pushing lead to finding conclusive proof that she's a scam artist.
>BUT THEY DEFENDED HER ANYWAY
Yeah the people who are fucking paid to defend her kept defending her, are you really trying to argue that not a single person stopped listening to her bullshit because she was outed as a scam artist?

This is not a campaign to stop anyone from speaking no matter how fucking retarded they are, this is a campaign to document just how retarded they are, everyone who is on the fence, everyone who doesn't fully understand the issue and just looks for random opinions, every little piece of info that comes out against them is another push for them to understand just how much nonsense they spew.
The point where the SJWs are the only voices being heard is the point where they win and they do what they want, no it doesn't fucking matter that they don't listen to reason in their little hugbox communities, they're a tiny minorty, we're a tiny minority.
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>>258622419
>>258622310
>>258622459
>>258622510

As long as he knows, thats all I can ask.
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>>258622282
NeoGAF is filled with worthless racist pieces of shit
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>>258622408
The only developers who listen to them are shitty ones anyway.

>>258622438
>/v/
>ignoring them
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>258622282
Neogaf is definitely gonna protect her. They are SJWs to the point of self parody. They will ignore all the obvious connections between her and kotaku/rps.
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>>258622438
but anon what can we simple folk do?
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Why do you need video game journalism?

Want a review of a game? Pirate it yourself and then decide. Then buy if you like it.

Read press releases from publishers yourself.

Who gives a fuck about gaming awards anyway?

There. All fixed.
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>>258622378

But then you'll start seeing it creep up on you. Some girl in vidya gets her tits reduces, a game you like doesn't get localized for being "sexist".

It will all start crumbling down.
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>>258622470

>A mod for the armpit of the internet calling other people out for contributing to the fall of civilization.
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It won't surprise me when if this thread gets deleted. These past 2 weeks mods have been getting BTFO and embarrassed left and right.

Who could forget that false Smash reveal that mods stickied, and then tried to damage control.
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WHAT IS HAPPENING
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>>258622510
Oh man, NAMES, that'll sure hold up in a respectable news site.

>>258622470
The mod is 100% correct.
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>>258622365
most newfags don't even know what /q/ is, not to mention during the whole MN9 thing I took a dive into SRS's domain and found shit like them organizing raids and their sub forum moderation teams even HELPING THEM, which is in direct violation of even reddit's rules, I even remember seeing screen caps

They're very much here
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>>258622546
>>258622548
Name the last time whining on /v/ changed something.
>>258622654
>willingly posting on the armpit of the internet
>trying to act above anyone
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>>258622272
Was there ever any solid proof it happened?
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I'd fuck Zoe.

Goddamn succubi.
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>>258622470
>you can't be angry about anything because ukraine and israel
this is such stupid fucking logic. i hope his family dies of cancer and people tell him to shut the fuck up because people are dying from ebola in africa.
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>>258622654

>the warden at a prison calling out prisoners for being shitty human beings
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>>258622560
>thread isn't about video games in the first place
>shitposters spend all their time not talking about video games
>b-but we're trying and you just won't let us! ;_;
You've had 100+ threads to talk about video games. If you didn't try then, you won't try now.
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>>258622470
The mod is correct though, but the /v/ mods are retarded for banning it here.
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>>258621546
>tfw that video makes Phil have another meltdown
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Not. Fucking. Videogames.
How long until you pathetic neckbeards understand? You lost the fight. Get over it.

Sage
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>>258622679

It works well enough to hold up in court, why would it not hold up on a news site?
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>>258622268
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>>258622408

Except they'll only make money as long as those games get sales.
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>>258622546
Yes, you go ahead with your ten page long infographics and reach out to the retards who still haven't realized those games don't deserve the 10/10s they're getting. Go, save video games. Godspeed.
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>>258622610
Keep talking about it. Continue to have the discussion and keep putting pressure on Kotaku. That's all we can do but it can be enough if we actually be serious about this.
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>>258622679
That mod is a massive fucking hypocrite and a pretentious faggot. It was never about her cheating bullshit, but the implications of her sleeping around in the industry. People couldn't discuss this ANYWHERE. It was littlerally shutdown everywhere but /pol/.

Fuck off.
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>>258622816
>the /v/ mods
Mods are global
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>>258622619
Because fuckwit those "journalists" are "the voice of the gamers" and devs look to THEM to see what "we like"

goddamn you're a dense nigger
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>>258622678
Guy made a blog post about Zoe Quinn, turns out she's a cunt who sleeps with people so they write good reviews of her games.
Mods decided that any thread about her is against rule 4. Not that some aren't of course, but deleting every single thread about her is stupid.
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>>258622540

Maybe Zoe Quinn is fucking everyone on the /v/ moderation team?

Wouldn't surprise me.
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>>258622235
No ignoring them is what has lead to this problem in the first fucking place.

Anyone have that pic of the orignal mens rights movment from the ealry 1900s that said just ignore them. That ended well right.
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>>258622678
Zoe Quinn was found to be having sex with journalist who push her game on kotaku/rps.
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SHE IS NOT EVEN HOT, WHAT THE FUCK.
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>>258622849

>mfw SRS doesn't even know how to sage good and proper

Jeez senpai, you should really step it up
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>>258622798
>/pol/ gets spammed with this pointless internet drama shit
>mod deletes threads
>actually getting pissy over this
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>>258622849
>corruption in video game journalism has nothing to do with video games
every time you post this it just bumps the thread and brings more attention to it
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>>258622679

there's also ALL of the convos between her and her ex discussing her affair with her boss, that gives reasonable doubt to his other claims of infidelity
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>>258621702
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>>258622876
>It was littlerally shutdown everywhere but /pol/.
And that's where it stays.
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>>258622929
The black Chie is hot.
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Yes it's corrupt.

Maybe it can be saved, if the people involved are pure of heart and deed.

Is it worth saving? Probably.

What can we do? Short of being the pure of heart and deed, nothing. And GYP shows that /v/ journalism is anything but pure of heart and deed.
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>>258622807

>Implying a mentally sound person would take up a job as a prison warden for free.
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>>258622645
>Some girl in vidya gets her tits reduces
Yes please. Can we get rid of boobplate too?
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>>258622226
He wont pick this up. He is a SJW at heart himself. When he talks about GAMES is when he is fair. He used to defend Sarkesian.
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>>258622763
holy fuck are you dumb

no you're not worth explaining to, if you cna't understand the concept of gathering facts and debate then you don't deserve any explanation. you're a goddamn retard and I can't wait for your mentally defective ass to drop dead
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Everything is corrupt.
SJWs are the cancer here, not journalists. Journalists are just doing what they usually do.

SJWs need to be put in a camp and shot. I think we can afford the bullets.
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>>258622470

What board?
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>>258620616
/thread
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>>258621728
>I still remember Kane and Lynch.

I bought Kane and Lynch because of the controversy. It was okay.
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>>258621295
We got a load alright. And she took everyone's load in arm's reach.
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>>258621138
>>258620698
Every one of those threads turns into invasion circlejerk witchhunts on par with eceleb threads.

They. Are. Not. Vidya. Fucking get over it. And while you're at it, stop spamming /pol/ with threads about how /v/'s mods are SJWs for banning what are clearly eceleb threads. It's really fucking annoying.
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Journalism in general is a fucking joke these days. It only reflects in these stupid screengame ratemedoos because the actual news agencies have the same problems. You could even say corruption and soapboxing has become an industry standard.

It probably won't fix itself at this rate, but if it does, we won't live to see a turnaround in quality.
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>>258622876
That's because it belongs on /pol/.
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Hey I like that Offspring Fling game that Kyle Pulver made. Is there anything more in depth about how he's related to this scandal?
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>>258622997
It belongs here. It's /v/ related. Too bad we have cunt mods and white knights reporting everything.
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>>258622876
>it was littlerally shutdown everywhere but /pol/.

Gee, I wonder if that had anything to do with the threads being "THIS SLUT FUCKED FIVE GUYS, LET'S MAKE BURGER JOKES INSTEAD AND CALL WOMEN BITCHES AND WHORES INSTEAD OF DISCUSSING JOURNALISM"
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>>258622896
Fucking do they? I thought they looked at all the money they get when their games sell?

I think your giving these "journalists" too much credit.
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>all those links to Quinnspiracy Theory

Let's admit it, she's a pathetic nobody. First, she tried to get more recognition for her shitty "game" on greenlight. It failed until she cooked up some bullshit about how wizardchan supposedly e-bullied her. Then she fucked a guy to promote her game. Then another, and another, and another, and another. She had to fuck five guys to get them to give positive feedback for her pile of shit. And the funniest part is that she did all of this for free. Her shitty non-game is free and she still went through all this trouble, because her game is that bad.
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>>258622938
>spammed

threads went to bump limit, new one made, only started getting "spammed" because mods not letting ANYONE talk about it
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>>258622870
This, pretty much. Maybe there's someone out there who can fix this, but it sure as hell isn't the 15-year-olds on /v/ who can't address the issue rationally or structure an argument without huge fallacies and resorting to name-calling. Just look at that youtube video, it's fucking embarrassing to watch even if he's more or less on the right side. Nobody is going to take crap like that seriously though.
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>>258622919

A hole's a hole to some people.
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>>258622896
Most journalists are paid off and are glorified advertisements for games. Devs know that, they're not looking to the very reviews they paid for for insight. That's what focus groups are for
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>>258622763
>I will ignore the argument and ask for unobtainable evidence for something that the post Im replying to specifically mentioned was not needed for a discussion on the topic
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>>258623084

>discussion about the journalism side of the video gaming industry
>not video games

What do gain from siding with the clearly corrupt?
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>>258623107
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there goes the thread thanks
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>>258620826
>17:08
FISH GETTIN BTFO
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>>258623017

he stood up to Kuchera, the king of shitty SJW gaymen journalism

also everyone defended Anita, we did ourselves (yes deal with it we didn't start the fire but we sure fucking fanned the flames) no favors in that ordeal
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>>258622540
it's coz there's people samefagging their 5 guys conspiracy videos to make money off everyone sperging out
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>>258623097
>/v/ related
"video game journalism is corrupt."

There. That's all there is to discuss.

Good thread everyone, go home.
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>>258623078

Which is, coincidentally enough, pretty much exactly what the review said.

Mediocre. Average. Okay.
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>>258623017
To be COMPLETELY fair, Sarkesian might've been shit, but /v/ blew it out of proportion just because she had a different opinion. Sure she borderline scammed using kikestarter, but she is technically delivering.

However, this is corruption plain and simple.
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>>258622938
That comment has nothing to do with mods deleting the threads and everything to do with their moronic logic that you can only care about one thing happening in the world at once and anyone who cares about video game journalism corruption is an asshole who doesn't care about what's happening in Israel or Ukraine.
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>>258623132
>mods not letting ANYONE talk about it
>talking about it right now
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>>258623102
That was after all threads on /v/ pertaining to the journalism bit kept getting axed. It was being censored regardless of the intent of the thread.
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>>258623023
>no you're not worth explaining to,
Thanks.
Less whiny shit on /v/.
>>
What the fuck can we even do? Be the jew and out-shill them?
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>>258623207
That was pretty great.
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>>258622828
SOMEONE SEND IT TO PHIL

PLEASE
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>>258623107
>stuff.rar
>1.67GB
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>>258623084
They are fucking vidya because the the whole five guys thing brings the whole corruption thing to a head.

I'm tired of having my vidya shit on because special snowflakes find thing x or y problematic, and I'm fucking done with it. You can go fuck off back to your little shithole or simply filter the thread rather than shitpost in it.
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>>258623113
She has a patreon and is collecting money for an indie convention scam called rebel jam. She doesnt fucking do it for free
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>>258622763
making phil fish throw a wobbly for one
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>>258620698
What leverage can Quinn possibly have on /v/ that they keep doing this?
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>>258622645
There will always be good vidya anon, the problem is being blown way out of proportion. Stay away from /v/ and other shitty sites with vidya news and you start to see just how miniscule this problem really is and how little it truly effects (affects?) the industry as a whole.

And if it does all start crumbling down one day then so be it, all good things must come to an end and vidya is no different
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>>258623090
>it's about video games
>it's also about video game journalism
>doesn't belong on /v/
>gets taken to /pol/
>can't be discussed on /pol/
>or /r9k/
>or even /b/
>all threads that even try to be civil in discussion about this controversy are outright deleted
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>>258623039
Oh shit, I just cut myself on those sharp edges man. Take off Kirk's Set, it's too much.
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>>258623174
>>I will ignore the argument
No, I read it.
Now Im asking a question.
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>>258620826
>>258620923
>>258621138
>mfw that rant about Phil Fish

That felt satisfying, based Jim.
>>
The answer is obvious.
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>>258623278
We all collectively tell them to fuck off. Kotaku should take a huge blow of credibility if this spreads around.
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>>258622876
>Everywhere but /pol/
Either it's
a) Eceleb bullshit
b) Political bullshit

Eituer way, it doesn't fucking belong here. Stop turning /v/ into your fencepost you gossipwhore.
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None of you actually go to Kotaku, right? Because even giving them site traffic is supporting them.
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>>258622849
>you lost the fight
It's only just begun
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>>258623103
>what is advertising
>what is paying for reviews

you do realize WHY journalism is exists for video games right? or you some kind of retarded crap for brains?
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>>258623107
And now it's in breach of rule 4. Noice.
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>>258623318
>leddit gold
>someone actually donated money to reddit to give a comment a "super upvote"
disgusting
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>>258623039
>doing what they do

You mean having sex and then promoting said sex partner's game on their journalism website?
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>>258623305
Nice try Zoe
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>>258623452
+1 SRS sister. Reminder to report this SJW since announcing sage is against the rules.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZL-hucSsfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJy0-nIiftc

Can we make one?
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>>258620470
>gaming journalism
>he thinks marketing is journalism
Because we trust articles about street fighter on a site covers with capcom banners.
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>>258620826
Fuck man, its like a breath of fresh air.
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>>258623212
he didnt stand up to that loser over SJW stuff though. It was over emulation.
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>>258620470
corrupt or not, the journalists all write shitty articles and cannot be trusted if you're sane
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>>258623398
Its like looking at prophets scriptures
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>>258623113
>she's a pathetic nobody

No, do not try to pass this off as no big deal and let it be swept under the rug, because it's not as small of an issue as you want it to be.
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>>258623425
>fencepost
>vidya journalism corruption
>b-b-b-b-b--bbbut it's not vidya!
I just need to keep telling myself you do all this for free.
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>>258623398

It's like they were looking through a fucking window directly into the future. They saw it coming and were powerless to stop it.
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>>258622478
we have a couple of gaming news sites

the main issue is that it's almost impossible to make it a living and they usually die off
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>>258623090
My dick belongs in your mom fgt
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>>258623260

Yeah, because /pol/ raided the fucking board.

The entire front page was FIVE GUYS a few hours ago.
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>>258622787
the gropping? nope, only claims but still, even if he did, he couldnt help it,since he has mental ilness, but of course nobody cared and got him fires
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>>258623452
Remember to report these posts because announcing sage is against the rules.

bump bump bump :^)
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ATTENTION IDIOTS

Lay off Zoe. That's a lost cause. Go straight tot he source. Go after the 5 men who actually have positions in the media. The ones that we actually have a problem with.
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>>258623084
People have said exactly why they're related to video games several times. Meanwhile, the only rebuttal is "notvidyanotvidyanotvidya" ad fucking nauseum.

So tell me how it isn't vidya.
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>>258622958
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>>258623573
That wasn't my point. My point is that she does it for free, like mods.
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>he does it for no monetary reimbursement
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>>258623239
>/v/ blew it out of proportion just because she had a different opinion.

Go to bet Anita.

It wasnt cause of different opinion and most of the so called theats to her were most likely done by Anita herself. It was all part of the scam.
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>>258622896
You actually what? I'm not even him but holy shit how naive can you be?

The "journalists" are an advertisement tube, nothing else. The devs know very well what the masses want - the same shit that's been selling for a decade, be it Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty. The press gets an early copy of those AAA titles only if they promise a nice score, and the magazines want them because who the fuck will buy one without a review of the brand new hyped title? They influence the industry in no way whatsoever, it's the other way around.
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>>258623107
I don't buy it and don't want to risk downloading them.
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>>258623178
Next you're going to tell me that banning Shitaku was a move perpatrated by the sjw mods.

Stop giving a fuck about retarded bullshit. It's stupid drama on some no name whore, and you're an awful person for dragging this garbage in here.
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>>258620923

>Jesse Ventura impersonation

My sides.
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>>258620826
>Phil Fish rant
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>paying the slightest attention to Gawker and it's subsidies

I guess a sucker really is born every minute, holy fuck. I'd post that "just don't look" thing from that show but I can't find it on tribetube.
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>>258623394
>No, I read it.
You can ignore things you have read.
You're asking for unobtainable evidence because discussion cannot be directly linked to actions such as Anita's I-don't-like-games video being leaked, it's just a pure fact that discussion anywhere at all leads to discussion elsewhere which leads to the right people getting information which leads to actions such as video leaks.
That's how information and discussion works, it spreads like a fuckin virus.
>>
>/pol/ raiding /v/ again
Back to /m/ for me.
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>>258623661
>It wasnt cause of different opinion and most of the so called theats to her were most likely done by Anita herself. It was all part of the scam.
It doesn't fucking matter and it's irrelevent toward the discussion.
>>
Not videogames
Someone post furry already for the love of G-d
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>>258623352

>Vidya must come to an end

It never even realized it's full potential.

Don't even say that anon.
>>
>he's a janitor
>on the internet
>on an anime imageboard
>he does it for free
>he takes his "job" very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power and control he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he deletes threads he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
>he deletes threads he doesn't like because they interfere with the large backlog of little girl chinese cartoons he still has to watch
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of his parent's house
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends
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>>258623207

can we all just gang up on Phil and ask him if told Zoe to choke on his dick? Maybe he'll quit twitter again
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>>258623627
Everyone deserves the flames. Everyone involved is at fault. Zoe and the Five Guys
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>>258623763

Read the thread, ignoring the problem doesn't work anymore.

This is the byproduct of the shit that was allowed to fester and grow
>>
>went to college for a journalism degree
>work in newspaper for a few years, hoping to get into gaming journalism
>shit such as this happens

I'm so glad I'm moving on to a new field. Gaming journalism is a fucking joke, I can't name an A-list website in gaming that has a shred of fucking journalistic integrity. if by some miracle a single Kotaku or RPS or Giant Bomb or whatever personality is reading this, I want you to know that you're a fucking sellout and a disgrace to objectivism.
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>>258623107
thanks op i came on cat she hiss at penis
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>>258623627
but without zoe these men will not fall.
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>>258622849
only because you gave up. coward
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>>258623485
>>258623305
>>258623206
I do it for free
>>
>ITT SRS starting to slide

it's happening, you niggers always hand wave it but 4chan is infested and targted by white knights and shit starters like SRS

report any post that doesn't contribute to the thread's topic, remember this
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>>258622478
You guys think Dean is mad enough to get inside Zoe?
>>
The mods haven't said anything but I'm pretty sure they keep deleting threads about this because it deviates to offtopic SJW shit.
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>>258623328
You are easily trolled.

You should stop giving fucks about clickbait websites altogether instead of getting wrapped up in whore drama.
>>
Jesus Christ that rant about Phill Fish made me rock hard
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>>258623673
i dont think anyone's downloaded them yet
why call them locke? and why does it need to be split into 2 different folders?
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>>258623789
It will never reach its full potential.
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>>258620958
oh shit look out, this guy's mad at the internet
he's so pissed he might even get his guy fawkes mask out from the closet, he's capable of anything
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>>258623874
can't slide one of the fastest threads on the board
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>>258623627
this
Dumb slut will fade away into nothingness if she has no strong independant white men to leech success off of.
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>>258623814
>>258623853

Everyone is tunnel visioned right now which is the problem. The #1 goal should be to find the wife. We have evidence of their cheating. Thats what we use against them.
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>>258623525
what would that solve
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>>258623837
Anon, start a website or youtube channel. Show them what proper journalism is like, don't let them win.
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>>258620470
>even Phil "BEHEAD ALL WHITE MALE BABIES" Fish is involved in this clusterfuck
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>>258623890

They have said something and they were wrong

>>258622470
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Someone photoshop you-know-who into Harley Quinn
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>Keep trying to post news about the Zoe Quinn shit on Leddit r/games.
>Thread gets removed after a couple of minutes, every single time

What the fuck is going on? Why are you allowed to post anything bad about EA or Ubisoft on Leddit, but if you dare write something bad about a female developer, the mods lose their minds?
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>>258621518
Was looking for that imgur with all the wizardchan stuff. Thanks anon.
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>>258623985
/v/ is obviously too beta to stand up against the shitty mods/janitors. We need some outlaws of our own.
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>>258623949
its a pretty good quote
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>>258623837

Save us.
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>>258623590
It really isn't vidya though. It's about as vidya as kojima telling people what he ate for lunch, except with a lot more rectal rage.

Also, you should know by now after anita that giving whores attention never ends well.
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>>258623980
That crossing global rule 4 Anon
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>>258624036

I know the phrase "SJW mods" gets thrown around a lot but ribbit is a clear cut example of it happening
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>>258624063
What do you suggest we do, exactly?
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>>258623947

RIP in peace.

Keep fighting the good fight.
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>>258623986
I'm moving on to being a librarian now. It makes more money and it's filled with less embarrassing bastards like gaming journalists. Maybe someday when I've made it I'll do that.
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>>258623627
so are people actually calling out these guys? it seems to me 4chan only has the energy to do this shit when they want to raid a website or some cat killer
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>>258623789
This too shall pass anon
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>>258624118
fight da power
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>>258623987

Phil is like the exact opposite of what a French-Canadian is supposed to be.
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>>258623768
>You can ignore things you have read.
But I didn't ignore it.
I read it and replied with a question.
>You're asking for unobtainable evidence
It sounds like you don't want to look for any.
A lazy person like you will not change anything.
You'll return to /v/ tomorrow with the latest new gossip, get it deleted, then cry about it.
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>>258622470

Yeah, because 4chan is the frontier of civilization, the peak upon which humanity continues to evolve.

Whoever that was should be de-modded for bias. You shouldn't be allowed to moderate in support of your personal agenda. In addition, he's blasting people for having an opinion simply because they didn't have the information for a long time. He's also setting upa red herring, saying that this is the only thing important to "you". Why can't it all be important to you, on a continuum? Isn't something that involves gaming a lot less remote than all of the things the mod lists as "more important", which no person of 4chan would likely ever have even a minute impact on?

Disgusting.
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>>258623598

It's a shame that, in order to fight the clickbaiting bullshit that's destroying the game journalism sector, you have to become clickbaiting bullshit.

If you're wanting to make the site your job, anyway. I suppose if someone were willing to do it as a side project that issue's rendered null, but that means that they'll have time constraints from their actual job which means less content, which usually means fewer readers.
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Mister mod. We've already talked about this. Why aren't you doing anything?

You know what, screw mods. Us gamers should voice our opinions about these threads and DEMAND they are deleted. Who's with me? As and old f*g (been here since the 90s), I think my opinion matters more than of these new f*gs.
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>>258624110
>global rule 4

I know it's an actual rule but I feel this is going to reach memetic status very soon
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>>258624056
>>258624143
He'll be back.
There are still heroes left in man
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>>258624036
because they know this shit is bad and the mods there in power don't want it to be talked about. This is big and people who support her and kotaku dont want this spreading
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>>258624036
You know what

Want to know why /v/ doesn't have IDs yet? Moot knows this board is used for up to date news, and with IDs we'd all know who's bumping the shilling threads.
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>>258624063
There's only one board that can help us.

Good christ.
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>>258623947
You glorious faggot
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>>258623837

Giant Bomb? The majority of them seem pretty alright, but a certain member of their team, however...
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>>258624036
Because indie devs are the saviors of gaming and did nothing wrong.
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>>258620826
Y'know, I never got the hate for Phil.

Until now.
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>>258623628
Look up moot's rant about primary, secondary, and tertiary topics.

It explains everything, and this shit is tertiary at best..
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Are there any decent sites left out there?
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>>258624118
Remember what /sp/ did?
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>>258624063
nah /v/ as a whole isn't that autistic yet
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HE

DOES

IT

FOR

NO

MONETARY

COMPENSATION
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>>258624105
>It really isn't vidya though
>It really isn't vidya though
>It really isn't vidya though
>I do it for free

The majority of this thread disagrees
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>>258623837
>objectivism
i get what you said but still, that's a very different word
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>>258620826
I've been waiting for him to release a new vid for what seems like forever. Thank you, based Jim.

I never miss an opportunity to shit on Kotaku around my friends. The internet is ripe for real game journalism with integrity. Who will be the one to rise up and establish a new, unbiased gaming news site?
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>>258623505

Be glad that they're wasting their money so that she has a greater voice.
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>>258620826
>That whole last half
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>>258623980
no it should be the use of sexual favors, and the conflict of interest
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>>258624283
we're ground zero anon.

The last site that has a chance
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>>258623987

tbf Phil threw himself into this one, he has no out other than to hide and keep retweeting stuff from ferguson
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>>258624216
I laughed.
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Gaming journalism should never have been a thing. It could be saved, but no it is not worth saving.

What do gaming journalists do?
1. Provide subjective reviews shittier than your friends' or some jackoff's on steam
2. Why anyone even cares: create controversy and drama.

You know "gaming journalism" is only relevant for #2.
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>>258624205
>You shouldn't be allowed to moderate in support of your personal agenda
Did you not even read the rules?
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>>258624283
>tfw when /v/ is the only decent site out there
Life's shitty, man. I love you retarded autistic aspies.
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>>258624216

>mod deletes thread
>WHY ARE YOU CENSORING US SJW FAGGOT MOD?
>mod doesn't delete thread
>WHY AREN'T YOU DELETING THIS THREAD IT'S NOT VIDEOGAMES FAGGOT MOD
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>>258624293
force a meme?
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>>258624118
Ask the gods of shitposting
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>>258624293
/sp/ here, we didn't do shit. a few autistic people made a lot of noise but nothing has changed, really. it was never that bad to begin with.
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>>258623874
>Telling dramawhores to fuck off makes me a whiteknight
Some of us actually like discussing vidya, you know.
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>>258622470

What board was that posted on?

Surely a 4chan moderator wouldn't suggest that we talk about Israel and Ukraine on /v/ of all places? That would be off topic.
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>>258624203
>But I didn't ignore it.
You did, and now you're doing it again.
When presented with information that answers your question you whine because it's not the impossible answer you demanded.
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>>258623898
>ignore ignore ignore, surely it will all go away
Yeah, look where that got us, fuck all nowhere except deeper in the shit. As much as you want to believe it's all clickbait and ignoring it makes it die, we wouldn't be here if that was true.

Someone get Gawker contact details for the heads. If we want to see some action happen, go over Kotaku and right to the lifeblood that makes them exist, and bring it to their attention.
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>>258624276
>and this shit is tertiary at best..

Stop trying to circumvent everything to suit your view.

This is a discussion on gaming journalism, which is gaming related.

I'm' quite certain you ordinarily wouldn't have a problem if it was just discussion about this site or that writer but since this is an expose on rampant corruption within the gaming journalism industry, suddenly it's "tertiary".
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>>258624370
regardless, shouldn't that be what people are doing?
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>>258624345
I'm fucking drunk, pissed and I love Ayn Rand. Thanks for pointing that out, though.
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>>258624276
>video game journalism isn't video game culture
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>>258624429

>never that bad to begin with

you're obviously from after mootdusky you newfag
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>>258624212
>It's a shame that, in order to fight the clickbaiting bullshit that's destroying the game journalism sector, you have to become clickbaiting bullshit.
There's a point where you just have to stop gazing into the abyss and let it go.
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>>258624421
CGLL was a dude using some chick's flickr or facebook images to wind people up, anon. this shit is ancient news and has virtually nothing to do with /v/
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>>258624457
Can't talk about vidya journalism corruption either apparently.
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Because a publication is reliant on a publisher to supply review copies in order to release reviews when those reviews are still relevant, they have always been corrupt, by definition. A Publisher tells them what score a thing should get, or if they care about what score it gets, and it gets that, or the publication can go pound sand when the next game comes out.

As long as games journalism is for profit business they can never not be corrupt.
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>>258624515
>Stop trying to circumvent everything to suit your view.
Are you so new that you didn't see the sticky?
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>>258624378
>>258624413
Seriously, none?

What about blogs preferably dedicated to Japanese games.
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MODS ARE COMING

RUN
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>>258624452

>gaming journalism
>not vidya
>not even just hiding the thread and making one about something you want to talk about

You're a bigger problem then the "dramawhores' you so fight against because you do nothing but complain.
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>>258624348
Totalbiscuit is a good one, in all seriousness. He is pretty fucking upfront with shilling, to the point he now straight up tells you if the video in question has a deal with him.

He also does a pretty solid job of reviews, and talks about important shit mostly and understands gaming pretty well.

But he has some real fucking bad moments, and some horrible videos and opinions, but he still has integrity and he seems to really give a fuck.
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http://www.p4rgaming.com/

ok I'm pretty sure these guys are from /v/, there is one more site that still makes content but I cannot remember the name of it.
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>>258624335
It's tertiary bullshit.
It's not vidya.
And mot of /v/ is full of retards who follow ad populum.
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>>258624592
Like?
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>>258624143
>>258624230
What was it?
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>>258624592
You're right /v/ needs more blog threads.
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so what are you doing to bring the five guys and quinn to justice? i hope you're not just spamming this shit on /v/. i hope you at least told your friends about this
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This feels like the Church of Scientology thing all over again

I'm not ready
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>>258624529
They're among us, as has been proven in the last 48 hours.
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>>258622338
http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSGaming/comments/17ja23/apparently_some_people_on_4chan_didnt_like_our/
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>>258620826
>actual journalists doing actual journalism
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HEY IDIOTS

EVERY TIME YOU CALL SOMEONE OUT FOR BEING A SJW, YOU HELP THEM DERAIL THE THREAD.

EITHER STAY ON TOPIC OR SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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Just watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZPSrwedvsg&list=UU7Edgk9RxP7Fm7vjQ1d-cDA

doesn't it just want to make you puke "hur dur women are purchasable objects in games" what about the fucking guys you shoot I guess they don't count as people. why the fuck did feminism have to flood into the only hobby i fucking cared about. fucking makes me sick
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The stuff I'm reading about Zoe Quinn has really lowered the bar further than ever before. The fact that these linkbaiters have been completely SILENT about her bullshit just makes things so much worse.

I think it's beyond saving. We should get rid of the entire institution altogether and just have corporate PR + gaming boards like this one.
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5guys.jpg
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>>258623663
you say it doesn't matter, but these are the people who writes the reviews. These are the people who are paid to fly out and watch the trailers and get involved with the developers directly. What kind of games does /v/ and every gamer out there play? >Games that are popular Love them or hate them, those are the games you hear about and get plastered all over Television commercials, billboard, radio, and the internet. Good or bad, people talk about them and it generates interest in them. Stop being such a sheep anon.
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>>258624415

He was censoring fag with an astrix as if he was and SRS raider who can not use "ablism" language for the sole purpose of ironic false-flagging.

why fall for it?
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>>258624421
>no sign of /r9k/
fucking flake assholes
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>>258624684
>linking to reddit
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THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu_zwdmz0hE
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Fuck you mods im fucking back
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>>258624421

That was a good day.

/sp/ came here asking for help with CGLL, and found themselves in a deluge of dubs threads and shitposting that was so bad that even /sp/ regretted it afterwards.

The only reason /sp/ are "gods of shitposting" is because the elder gods of shitposting sleep in /v/ and quarrel amongst themselves.
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>>258624592
Unless you find obscure one-man operations out there, every other alternative aside from /v/ is going to be corrupt and full horseshit articles.
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>>258624421
why did /sp/ need the help?
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>>258623812
>you always imagine Tyrone reading these lines

Shit never gets old.
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>>258624663
>corrupt video games journalism affecting the influence of the industry in many ways
>not vidya related
You just keep grasping at straws here. It's getting sad.
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>>258620470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M

only if we expose the problem
(media manipulation)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M#t=1427
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>>258624679
>This feels like the Church of Scientology thing all over again
That helped make 4chan worse.
Do you really want that shit again?
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>>258624674
Not much can be done outside of what I've been doing. As you said, I've told my friends who care about vidya gaems in hopes that they'll stop supporting these bastards. Otherwise I'll keep avoiding their websites and indie games. Vote with your dollar and all that shit.
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>>258624830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdC_Cu9X4wc

RIP ;_;
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>>258624558
It's more a commentary on /sp/'s seething hatred toward their moderation and ability to spontaneously fill up 95% of the board with shitposting
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Pf course they are, OP. This entire publishers fund websites with ad revenue in exchange for money fuels this. Journo's get free shit when they review games. Vidya journalism, with no other way to get money other than begging for site views or publisher money, is doomed to be a corrupt, unjust system.

Why do you think a big site like IGN has no SJW crap? Because they don't need clickbaits, their fanbase is large as it is. that in turn makes them report news without editorial bias.

Now they still have to rely on publisher money, so their reviews are bought. Easy as that.

People like Geoff and Sessler already state that they check everyday to see if they made their quota on site and video views in order to feed themselves. That's why being videogame journalist is hell.

Most sites should just go for the subscription fee model. I' m willing to pay for their food as long as they keep their SJW shit out, and make fair reviews, and report on actual vidya news as fast as IGN.
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>>258624801

nah, it's because we control the Ausfags

>implying the entire nation of Australia isn't shitposting on /sp/ RIGHT NOW
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>>258620470

Gaming journalism is sensationalist bullshit.
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>>258624756
I'm not sure what you're even trying to say here.
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>>258624867
That's why I said I'm not ready you double dingus
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>>258624457
It was /pol/ most people migrated there yesterday when these threads were getting deleted on sight.
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>>258624762

He may be ironically false-flagging, but there are plenty of people who aren't being ironic and complaining about it.
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>>258624515
>>258624498
IT'S. FUCKING. TERTIARY.

It's really not that fucking hard to understand why it doesn't belong here. Fuck, everything involved with journalism on this site is dumb to begin.

Do you ever just sit down and think "Wow. I am literally discussing people discussing vidya games. I am a gigantic faggot."?
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>>258620470
Unfortunately, yes. All we can do right now is stay away from journalism websites so they don't get ad revenue.
Trust only your neighbor
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>>258624785
>>258624697
>>258624620
see this shit. this is why these threads get deleted. this isn't actually discussing. this is shit posting
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With all the mods deleting the threads about this, you'd think Zoe's fucking them too.
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>>258624663
We're talking about stuff that affects the entire gaming industry as a whole. It's secondary at worst, and needs to be talked about.
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>>258624717
Please do not link to clickbait videos
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>>258624905
/v/ is going that way.
Thank god the best board is safe from it.
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>>258625009
But Kojima/Kamiya twitter threads are okay? Gotcha.
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>>258624665
That's what I'm asking.

>>258624808
Do you know of any? I'd be really grateful.
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>>258624638
I'll check it out. Thanks anon.
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MODS MODS MODS

This is a SLUT SHAMING thread and has nothing to do with video games.

DELETE IT NOW PLEASE
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>>258621880
>Gather Your Party
>they don't pay their contributors
I know ad revenues are a no go but I'm not surprised they didn't take off. People need incentives and altruism isn't sufficient to draw people good at what they do
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I heard you guys were in need of some assistance
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>>258624679
Pretty much.

I think there's a lesson here.
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>>258624674
>friends
anon, I
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/v/ and /pol/ BEING BTFO:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/916373-pc/69869558

It's GameFAQ. 24 FUCKING PAGES. F*cking janitors...
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>>258625029
Maybe, they both do it for free.
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I'M AN OWL, /v/
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>>258625115
PLEASE SAVE US
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>>258625115
PLS
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>>258625009
>tertiary
>XSeed shit over the weekend
Hm, totally tertiary. I'm sure the bullshit hasn't somehow fed into what happened there.

FUCK OFF.
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>>258624867

>Made 4chan worse

It did nothing but ruin the "anonymous" image, Unless you mean to say you actually still care about that?
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>>258625137
go to assfaggots and tell people in chat. thats a way
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>>258624926
/thread
But paying journos is retarded.
Fuck off shitposters.
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>>258620470
>Is gaming journalism well and truly corrupt?
Yes.

>Can it be saved?
Yes but it involves burning it all down and starting again.

>Is it worth saving?
Nope. Nothing good ever came of it.

>What can we do?
Boycott all the major sites. Get your reviews from nobody Youtubers with 120 views per video.
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>>258624631
Discussing vidya is vidya.
Discussing people discussing vidya is not vidya. It's just discussing people.
We have a word for that, it's called "drama".

Not hard to understand.
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>>258625109
>I know ad revenues are a no go but I'm not surprised they didn't take off.

No, ad revenue on your website is fine.

GAMING ad revenue is where the bullshit lies. Get Gilette to advertise their new 7-bladed razor, that shit's fine. Get Spalding to advertise their new quantum-G spaceketball, that's dandy.

But the second you let EA buy even a pixel of your adspace, THAT'S when you start losing integrity.
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>>258625115
>>258625190
>>258625201
>>258625240
>>258625089
shitposting~
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>>258620826
Based Jim. Our true lord and savior.
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>>258625115
#outlels4lyfe
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>>258625267
>paying people for a job well done is somehow retarded
Why?
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WE'RE REACHING BUMP LIMIT SOON BROS

KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE
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I swear to god This is going to slide and be swept under the rug. And gaming journalism is gonna control how games are developed. Before it was unacceptable but there was no glaring evidence now this shit happens and all involving parties are maintaining radio silence.

>Cant talk about i on /v/
>NeoGaf is a cesspool of SJW nonsense
>Reddit wont discuss
>Gaming journalism wont dare touch it because it's too close to home and endangers their "careers"

They're going to get away with it by spouting tumblr phrases that she was being slut shamed or some dumb fucking nonsense. This blows the fuck out of SJW bullshit and "women being oppresed in vidya".

I guess the only way that this is going to go anywhere if this trickles uphill to a more popular and listened to youtuber. Either that, everyone uploads jims video to the point of epidemic levels of insanity to the point where it CANNOT be ignored.
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OP here

I'm glad this thread made it as long as it did

All of you people who posted scared the mods would come and delete this immediately, well look what happened. As long as we approach this maturely and avoid shitflinging we can discuss this. I don't know if we need more threads on this but if anyone else wants to make a thread on this don't go full retard in the first few posts.
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>>258624926
one needs to come before the other
This is a case of fucked up priorities.
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>>258625249

Oh, yeah, this Akiba's Trip bullshit I heard about.

What specifically pissed off the SJW? Some line of text in the in-game message board or something?
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>>258625115
its happening again
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>>258621323

Well yeah, doesn't hating anything require a great deal of caring about it? I mean otherwise you wouldn't care.
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>>258621832
>will now become a prominent figure in the video game industry
She already was one.
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>>258624679
i was thinking the same, it feels eerily similar
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>>258625152
Thank you, I'm going to gamefaqs and report that thread.
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>>258624679
that's what it smells like to me, i think /b/2.0 is about to have its operation chanology moment

and we get to watch it all happen all over again
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MODS DONT DO IT FOR FREE
THEY DO IT FOR ZOEY'S PUSSY
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>>258625438
Make a new thread OP
PUSH YOUR LUCK MAN
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>>258624780
Bretty good. I like this one better though, more topical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnzAlh9PmA

So out of all these journalism sites, which ones are the worst offenders?
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>>258625076
Where did I say those threads were okay?

The only reason they happen is becauseno one bothers reporting them.
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>>258624258
And we're gonna do the best we can brother

Remember to do your part and contact [email protected] and also post at http://www.4chan.org/feedback]


Never let the mods try to sweep corruption under the rugs and silence your righteous discussion

Freedom of speech is what makes this site what is it. If we lose that, where else is there to go? I know I don't want to leave old friends behind and move onto 1234567chan just because the SRS bitches finally infiltrated mod positions.
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>>258625249
are there any other examples of SJW's trying to indict Japanese games and being successful?
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>>258625458
>that was almost 2 years ago
i want to kill myself
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>>258625438
>As long as we approach this maturely and avoid shitflinging we can discuss this
This is totally what happened here
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>Leave the SJWs to me
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>>258625428
>ournalism is gonna control how games are developed
they already do
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>>258625438
>As long as we approach this maturely and avoid shitflinging we can discuss this.

Fucking magic.
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>>258625013
Fucking saved
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>>258625428
I've got to get away...
I wanna, flyyyyyy awaayyyyyyy...
yeaaaaaahhhh yeaahh
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>>258625495
Can you imagine /b/3.0?
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>>258624421
I miss Roasted.
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I found a magazine from July of 2004 the other week when I was cleaning. It had a really cool preview of Dawn of War, Battlefield 2, and CoD:UO. They also had a nice bit in the end about how two of their staffers were playing the WoW beta together and one of them got real into the RP side of it while the other just wanted to mess around. It was cover to cover nothing but videogames, and I loved it. The thing that really stood out to me though was that in their review of Manhunt, they opted to not immediately pan the game for how violent it was which was a big issue at the time, but instead gave it a pretty fair review based on the gameplay, not the surface issue. It really opened my eyes about how videogame journalism isn't even about the games anymore. Sorry for the blogpost.
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>>258624592

The last decent news site I know of used to be andriasang before it closed down. Siliconera isn't too bad as a replacement, although the more in-depth stuff is very much hit or miss. The folks over there are pretty much Japanophiles and aren't very good at articulating criticism, but it's very up to date on most things with a generally neutral viewpoint.
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What's with the desperation to shut down all discussion regarding "that" topic?

There's a shit ton on /pol/ right now desperate to get /pol/ to stop talking about it.

The level of "Shut It Down!!" shilling going on in that /pol/ thread right now is incredible. Reminds me when the JIDF invaded /pol/ a few weeks ago. It's that level of shilling going on.
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>>258625568
Its a lot better than the other threads about this, believe me, I was in them.

Sure, there's a lot of shitposting going on still but there's still a good chunk of actual discussion going on.
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>>258625438
it has nothing to do with that, and everything to do with /v/ being a news board. Its why some boards have IDs, and some don't.
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>>258624348

I don't think that there will ever be an unbiased gaming website. At least, not one that is industry-centric. The problem with gaming journalism is that it produces an an intermediary product that is designed to drive revenue to a website. Truth and sincerity fly out of the window when you put money on the table and the hand of the publishers/developers/hardware companies is on the pile.

If you want honest reviews of games, look to authentic consumer reviews. The fact of the matter is, the vast majority of gaming websites are about accruing money and power, not assessing the quality of video games and critiquing the business practices of the industry.
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>>258625438
>All of you people who posted scared the mods would come and delete this immediately, well look what happened. As long as we approach this maturely and avoid shitflinging we can discuss this.

LIES
Spamming and doxxing is what we need, not mature discussion!
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>>258623831
So being fucking clickbait warriors is going to turn it around? You seriously think a bunch of washed up Williamsburg 30somethings are going to take your comments to heart instead of just turning them against you for more pageviews? Get real dude. I don't know what kind of god damned concentrated effort you've got going here, but it's not going to work. The kicking and screaming and swinging from rafters is going to fall on deaf ears like it always has, and you're all going to look like complete idiots for doing it. Mark my fucking words.

I hope one of these days you chimpy retards realize that bloggers, their worthless opinions, and the crooked upper-managerial suits who'll listen to them for a dollar or two just aren't worth getting torqued out over.
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>>258625693

I don't think you have any idea of just how many people Zoe fucked.

She has half of the internet white knighting for her.
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