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Are there any games that convey well the true vastness of space?

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Are there any games that convey well the true vastness of space?
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Space Engine, but looks like you have that covered.
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Space Engine it is
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EVE Online. You spend 90% of your time jumping through warp gates.
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>>258419410
Boo.
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Space Engine is scary as fuck
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>>258420091
This
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>>258419410
no because you would die before you got any where
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Noctis
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Kerbal Space Program, and it's only like 10% of the actual scale of our solar system.
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>tfw going fast in space engine and suddenly hitting those devoid, creepy looking parts of the galaxy
2fuckingspooky
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>>258421131
relevant, maybe?
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Reposting from last thread.
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It was initially quite comfy to explore the milky way and such in SE, but once I started going beyond I would quite regularly get hit by intense feelings of pure dread when looking into the vast endlessness of space.
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>>258421332
Not spooky enough.
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>accelerate time to the max
>milky way doesn't move
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>play EVE online
>Everyone tells me nulsec gets you killed
>Get killed 15 times in lowsec
>Finally managed to break past them into low sec
>trying to get back to hi-sec is certain death
>Just keep jumping around in lowsec
>There is nothing
>Literally
>NOTHING
>15 jumps without encountering anyone, even a bot.
>I was in more danger in hisec than I was in nulsec

I've seen the vastness of space and despaired.
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>>258422101
oh my
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>>258422101
What is that even supposed to be?
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>>258422547
a circle
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>>258422101

ABORT ABORT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMB_cold_spot

>Various alternative explanations exist, including a so-called Eridanus Supervoid or Great Void. This would be an extremely large region of the universe, roughly 150 to 300 Mpc or 500 million to one billion light-years across

Fucking voids man. I get depressed every time I think about them.
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Shattered Horizons was pretty good at it despite the levels not being all that large but it's dead as a doornail.
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this horrifies me
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>No space voyage games
>No dealing with repairs on your ship, maneuvers through asteroid fields.
>No AI who's personality changes with every playthrough.
>Managing power consumption


I just really want a first person game that plays out like the journey to Jupiter in 2001: Space Odyssey. Those lonesome stories about traveling through the vast emptiness of space make me feel some very special feels.
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>>258422101
is that a perfect shot of the other side of the rock while stun orbits from other side
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>>258422140
>fly so far out that the lights from galaxies disappear completely
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>>258423375
Travelling through an asteroid field would be pretty easy in real life
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>>258420442
2SPOOKY
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>/v/ loves space engine
>hates no man's sky when it's litterally the same thing but better

can somebody explain this please
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>>258419410
Moonbase Alpha
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>>258419410
Orbiter, it's just our solar system though.
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>>258424627
go away
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>>258423375
Elite : Dangerous would fit your tastes.
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>>258424627
Some people have a hard time understanding that procedural isn't random and they believe the only thing that will change is colours.

Also Space Engine is an tech demo, so it's nice. But No Man's Sky is a game and they haven't shown much from gameplay yet so it does seem empty as a game.
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The battlecruiser series. Even after warping to a planet it still takes like 30 minutes of free flying to reach the atmosphere.
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>>258424869
Why?

I enjoy space engine a ton, and i'm pretty hyped for no man's sky, yet all I see is the former getting praised and the latter being shit on even though the latter is the same thing but with with a higher level of detail and interactivity
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>>258422547

You'll die in seven days.
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Get a telescope, go outside and stare into the abyss.
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I thought Mass Effect 1 gave it a really good attempt
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>>258425225
One of the best feelings for me has been to count the colour bands in Jupiter. 10/10 would do again
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>>258420091
I disagree, warp gates and wormholes and warp drives just make everything seem like a series of small rooms.
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Where can I find Hell in space?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWs

related spooky space music
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>>258424627
>literally
>my game that hasn't come out yet is better

Why would we praise something we haven't even played? We aren't Kotaku.
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>>258424627
No Man's Sky isn't a game though. It's a marketing campaign.
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>>258426973
You're living right on it! [/spoiler[
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This did it for me
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>>258419410
Man, why does space have to be so fucking vast, anyway? All it does is make trips to Alpha Centauri inconveniently long and make Science fags brag about how INCOMPREHENSIBLY LOVECRAFTIAN everything is. Yeah, we get it, you can come up with flowery beat poetry to describe shit, doesn't make you smart.
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>>258427698
>>258427594
We've litterally seen nothing but gameplay from no man's sky, and you are correct, it's not a game: It's a slightly more game like version of space engine.
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>>258426973

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Jupiter
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>we will soon be able to get to mars in 30 days

The age of space travel will soon be upon us.
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Just a fucking hour ago I got the intense desire to reinstall freelancer so I can just glide along through the peace and majesty of space.

Then I see this thread and I can't help but agree with >>258421793 . Space has two very distinct sides. There's the beauty of Astronomy, Astrophotography, the Humanity Fuck Yeah aspect and all that... then there's shit like Black Holes and the yawning abyss.

Then there's shit that walks the fine line between both, like these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7E_GVDdyYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Ngl2RY8sA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MvrduueveI

Now I'm... kindof not so eager to play Freelancer tonight..
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>>258419975
>>258420442
that's not even close to what moving through space looks like. looks like a liquid with lots of shit floating around.
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>>258424627
>THIS PLANET HAS YELLOW WATER
>THIS ONE'S GREEN
WOAH
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>>258420934
Agree with this guy KSP is the only fun one
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>>258428573
To add, I'm really sorry my shitty toaster-laptop can't run Space Engine due to some incompatibility issues. I would have loved to explore. Gotta settle for Freelancer..
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>>258428838
The age we live in.......
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>tfw severe astrophobia

It's literally impossible for me to play Space Engine at night in full sceen. And yes, I used literally correctly. My body can't handle looking at the screen so I can't play it.
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>>258424671
HOLLA HOLLA GEN TELLER
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>>258424104
>>258420442
This shit genuinely gave me goosebumps and I scrolled down in a panic just to not see the all-encompassing darkness.

>I didn't scroll fast enough, much like how you can't escape a black hole.
>mfw
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>>258429338
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>>258424627
Can you fly between galaxies in No Man's Sky?
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Want something to explore?
Go to the Black Eye Galaxy, shit is full of nebulas
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>>258428801

Sounds like something you would eat.
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Orpheon level in Metroid Prime
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Space Engine the best.

Just the best.
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>>258430171
Behold, the Penis Nebula
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>>258429868
That was actually really fucking good. What board was it from?
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>>258429868
more humanity fuck yeah images plox
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here I found it I prefer this one more to the other one as it is full of URHYERHUGRHUSUHRDGDG
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All this reminds me of how much of a fucking disappointment Spore was.

>there will never be a game that lets you travel the galaxy in search for random planets for life on the first ship out of our solar system that can jump between systems
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>>258431474

Would be a pretty good star trek game if the gaming industry made quality games.
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1/3
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>>258431664

2/3
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>>258431659
Western industry you mean
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>>258431803

3/3
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>>258428573

Freelancer has its share of cosmic megastructure dread, too.

For instance, the neutron star system.
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your mom's fat ass
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>>258432039
I forgot those. Remind me?
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>>258419410
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>>258432226

There's a pirate system full of radiation, asteroids, mines, and max level pirates fighting corsairs. At the center is a neutron star.

If you go explore near the collapsed warp gates in Texas, you'll not feel so well when those tiny black blobs grow with your approach to cover the whole screen.
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>>258432696
Just imagining those is fucking terrifying. Any videos or pictures?
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>>258432471
I need to get high as fuck and play Space Engine all night long.
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>>258432960

>freelancer videos.
>2014.

One of the secret alien systems is set inside a tubular gas cloud. You can point towards the star and keep flying towards it for a very long time, until you actually leave the gas cloud.
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>>258430351
Why is there a jump gate in space engine?
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>>258424627

I'm hype for No Mans Sky and Space Engine is one of my favourite games. It's also one of the prettiest looking games, and I think No Mans Sky is too.

I can see myself spending many more hours on both.
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Kerbal Space Program is pretty fun and it has pretty realistic distances
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>>258433264
Wait so...there's a SYSTEM inside a gas cloud... and you can go through it without ever reaching it what?
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>tfw light pollution
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Aurora. You''ll learn to appreciate star systems with only one star.
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>>258428838
What makes you think No Man's Sky will have any less variety then space engine?

>>258430052
I think so? Didn't they say it has more then one galaxy?
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Haven't fucked around in Spess Engine in ages. Thanks for reminding me, OP.
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>>258433726
>>258433264
yeh wotte fock m8?
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>>258431927
>>258431803
>>258431664
>tips fedora
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Is there any place to download Space engine that doesn't take 12+ hours? Seriously, my connection is testing at 54 Mb/s, but the download apparently didn't get the memo.
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>>258437120
I'm assuming you're downloading from the homepage? IIRC there was a link there to a torrent, that should be times faster than a direct link.
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>>258420442
>penetrating space-chan at the speed of light
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>>258437032
oh my fucking god kill yourself you mad, neoautist
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>>258437442
Yea I was, I'll give that a shot.
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>>258437626
Yes i am the one that is currently mad.
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>>258432696
>>258433264
>link
>videos
>now
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>Space Engine thread
>Devolves into existential crisis/black holes are scarrrry/I am an astrophysicist ask me anything thread

everytime
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>>258424973

Space Engine is a simulation, like Celestia. It's not a tech demo for a game, since no game development has been done yet and likely won't start for a while.
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>>258438152
Don't forget: the brain named itself.
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>>258438170
>Space Engine dev has delivered on everything so far that he has promised if people donate
>If people donate enough he will make it a full game
I need to start throwing money at this project.
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>>258437626
Those are pretty terrible. though.
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>>258438483

I'm aware, just want to make it clear that se isn't a tech demo.
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>>258434890
>THIS CREATURE HAS GREEN EYES
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>>258434890
Every played spawns on THEIR OWN planet where they can put their nametag of exploration on all the "randomly generated" hairstyles that creatures have, after that they can visit other players planets the end
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>>258438645
are they now
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>>258420442
What is this supposed to be exactly?
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>>258439217

A human being could feasibly leap across that entire chasm due to the comet's low surface gravity. It's probably hundreds of feet wide at that spot.
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>>258439217
>>258439458
what is the rosetta osiris and why post it and why is it special?
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What about X3?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex5jBQtS13w

Is anyone playing Star Citizen?

How is it?
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What object in space would you want to be named after you?
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>>258439546
It's literally less than a second in google, for fucks sake.
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>>258439546

Apparently the OSIRIS is the imaging equipment on-board, but Rosetta is the craft the ESA sent to comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. It's special because we've never really-technically-properly gotten pictures of a comet up so close. In a few months the probe is set to land on the comet's surface.

The gravity is so low that the craft needs clamps to hook itself into the rock so the concussive force doesn't bounce it back into escape velocity (about 1.5 feet per second).
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What was that "MMO" mod for Freelancer? Used to play it with some mates. Think /v/ was into it too for a while.

But christ, the roleplaying in that mod is serious fucking business.
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>>258439217
A human being sat down in his office and plotted this course.
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>>258440007
why post if there wasn't something so very special about the image. etc
shouldn't have to google when anon's confirmation is waiting ahead at 3 am monday
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>>258439824
>First comment
>It's a pre-pre-alpha you cocksucking mongoloid childfuckers. PRE-PRE-ALPHA THAT MEANS NO JUDGING YOU PIECES OF BIG PUBLISHERS' DINGLEBERRIES! ~i still believe in chris roberts~~
>Neckbeard deluxe
Must be a shitposter from /v/ trollin'
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>>258439824
play elite dangerous
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>>258438827
Fair enough, since a tech demo would just try and focus on the features of the actual engine and it's capabilities, whereas Space Engine just simulates the actual universe and shows an accurate depiction of it.
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>>258440228
Why?
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>>258440730
To get cool pictures of the astroid close up with satelites, naturally
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>>258440837
That's a really bizarre flight path, though.
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>>258439897
me
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>>258440730
The question you should be asking is, why not?
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>>258440902
Space is bizarre. You can't just launch a rocket straight at it and hope it'll get caught in a satellite path
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>>258440902

It's about angles for the photographs.

If you mean that it's not a clean orbital motion, the comet's gravity isn't strong enough to sustain much of an orbit at that distance (or it would just be really, really slow).
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>you will never go to one of Jupiter's moons and observe the planet from a distance
I dont think we can even begin to imagine just how massive that planet is, which makes the fact that there are alot of other shit out there thousands of times bigger even more impressive
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>>258439217
here's a shot from further out
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Reminder that it's possible for massive stars to supernova so explosively that it doesn't leave a blackhole behind.
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>>258420442
>yifi torrent bitrate
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Still have nightmares. Fuck this fucking system and it's nothing.
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No Emdrive hype?
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Who Aurora here?
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>>258442068
This is all the hype you need

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQnR5fhCXkQ&list=UUtI0Hodo5o5dUb67FeUjDeA
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>>258435954
>>258438103
Freelancer was a amazing game. If Star Citizen even recreates a fraction of it, it will be glorious.
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>>258439159
The mouth of the ever-hungering abyss.
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>>258428801
hooo?
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what are some good SPESS MUHRINE games that actually take place in space and not some planet??
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>>258440902
tjey have to do that to conserve power
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space engine freaks me the fuck out

i hate having those big fucking circles zoom in fast as shit at my monitor
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>>258428801
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>>258442557
first level of halo is pretty cool. also boarding the alien ship is cool too.
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>>258441921
what game
the freelanced tihng?
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>>258442536
I will find your Ashimmu and destroy it.
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>>258442285
whats that
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>>258443723
Freelancer, yes. It's an "unknown" system that has nothing in it besides dangerous aliens and radiation. It's basically a easter egg system that's pretty difficult to find.
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>>258419410
Starbound BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO FUCKING DO IN IT
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>>258442285
How is that game anyway? I briefly tried it before getting overwhelmed by it's sheer scale. But i plan on trying to get into it again soon.

I've heard people calling Dwarf Fortress X4
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>>258443930
how does freelancer work
you are FREE to fly as you wish in a 3d environment or?
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>>258429868
That was fucking brilliant. More?
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>>258444698
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>>258443757
Many have tried, none succeeded
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>>258444575
meant to reply to>>258443864
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>>258444575
Yes. There's a campaign/story mode that makes you follow a path with restricted freedom, but there's mods that makes it 100% sandbox so that you can work with any faction and group instead of when the story makes you do it.

But the story is pretty nice. And the game is full of interesting lore and tidbits.

In a way, i guess you can say it's EVE lite, but with more arcady feel than EVE (which is mostly played with macros and orders instead of literally flying your shit).

There's also the Freelancer Discover Mod, which turns the game into an MMO of sorts.
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>>258421332
why is there such empty space where there is no debris here?
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>mfw yesterday I learned that a neutron star surface is made up of iron
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>>258444868
kool
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>>258445657
Yeah, but it's not like earth iron in a sense due it being far denser and thus stronger. About a million time stronger than steel.
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>>258445657
But how
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Spoopy, yo.
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>>258446515
Well isn't it when a star starts producing iron that it goes supernova?
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>>258439159
Space anus
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>>258428029
>INCOMPREHENSIBLY LOVECRAFTIAN

>incomprehensibly [human-created concept]
>incomprehensibly comprehensible
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>>258443851
Aurora
>>258444012
That's pretty much exactly what it is. It's fantastic once you learn how to play.
Treat it like a roguelike. Fuck up, learn from your mistakes, then apply that knowledge to the next game.
If you do that and use this pastebin http://pastebin.com/CnHV9StF you'll learn it in no time.
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noctis was cool, i never played it but i think space engine is just a more modern version of it
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>>258447196
wait is this that number crunch fucklerclust of an autists dream hence dwarfort x4?
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>>258445657

Only the surface. Iron is actually lethal to the internal "engine" of a star (or at least signals the beginning of the end of its life)
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has anyone here played Tachyon: The Fringe

very nice game with nice atmosphere and all, plus Bruce Campbell did the voice of the protag
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>>258447275
Basically. It's not for everyone, but it's a lot of fun for those who want to learn it.
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>>258446320

So that's what Japanese swords are made of.
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>>258445657
it's elemental iron though, not just solid iron. It's in an ionized state.
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>>258447693
is that our solar system?

what planet/star/whatev does the sun spins on? I didn't went to school.
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>>258445452
Dark matter?
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>>258447693
>Piccolo is at it again
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>>258448072
If you're asking what the sun orbits, it's orbiting the super-massive black hole at the center of the Milky Way.
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>>258448304
and that circles TGA right?
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>>258448403
Yep, whatever it may be.
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>>258448304

Technically the sun is orbiting the center of the solar system.
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>>258447196
Aight, thanks, gonna look into it when i'm in the mood for some hardcore trial and error
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>>258430645
Probably a Humanity Thread on /x/.
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Has anyone played Distant Worlds?
I've heard it's basically Aurora but easier to get in to.
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>>258448403
>>258448597
TGA?
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>>258448978
I tried playing it, but it hurt my eyes. I'm glad it exists though, it's the almost perfect alternative to Aurora for people who aren't autistic enough for it.
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>>258448842
At first I wanted to call you out on your bullshit then I looked at the date. RIP in pieces /x/
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>>258449206
The Great Attractor
10000 galaxies mass
dead center
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>>258449206
The Great Attractor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Attractor
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>>258447693
>>258448072
That image is wrong.
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>>258447572
>chicago
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>>258449290
It's weird though, I'm autistic enough for Dwarf Fortress, and a ton of other REALLY autistic games.
The number one turn off for me about Auroroa, though, was that nothing seemed to work first try. It took me forever to actually figure out what stupid sequence I was supposed to do to make something happen.
Maybe I should try to get into it again.
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>>258420934
this

see that bright dot on the right? you can go there seamlessly
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>>258449438

That is some creepy shit.
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Have you played Crystal Pixels?
It might not be a good example of the vastness of space, but it gives a good sense of the loneliness.
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>>258449683
Yeah, you'll be doing a lot of sequences to get things done, but once you've got them down you won't even have to think about it.
>research reactors to unlock research for engines
>research engines to make that component available for design
>combine components to create a functioning engine
>make prototype of engine
>add engine to a ship, alongside a bunch of other parts you'll need to research and design
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>>258449438
I can't even begin to comprehend its vastity.
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>>258449959
Holy shit yeah.
>The Great Attractor
>The dark flow
>Triangulum Australe

Straight out of WH40K.
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>>258450317
Vastity isn't a word
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>>258450317
For future reference, the word you're looking for is vastness.
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>>258450317
>vastity
It's vastness.
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>>258448141
More?
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>>258450654
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>>258450654
Seconding.
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>>258420934
>>258449918
kerbals fucking dead and left in the dirt to rot and casualized because fanbase
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If anyone wants to quickly sate space exploration needs, there's always Outer Wilds, a small free game some guys made for their thesis on something.

It's pretty fun. Was flavor of the week on /v/ half a year or so back, though it's been out for years.
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>>258449316
/x/ was good once.
A long time ago.
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>>258450394
>>258450498
>>258450564
Thanks, english is not my native language and sometimes I just assume i know how to spell words when I don't.
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>>258451068
No problem, friend.
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>>258450834
This game gave me so many hours of fun exploration. I'm excited for the final release.
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>>258450834
its really fun
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Sometimes I'm afraid of the fact that our entire existence can be wiped out in seconds by an event far beyond our understanding.
Then I remember our planet is already 4,5 billion years old and something like that happening during my lifetime is like guessing a number between 1 and 1000000 correctly several times in a row.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo%C3%B6tes_void
Imagine living in here.
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>>258450793
Sort of, but it's still getting (slow) updates, and there's mods for all the stuff the devs haven't finished.
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>>258450721
>FUCK YEAH HUMANITY
How do we know that our body liquids or skin flakes isnt corrosive to aliens?
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>>258451231
Wait, what? How you get the ice planet to start moving?
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>>258420934
>>258449918
I somehow can't take KSP seriously.

>>258451231
I've quite a few times beforehand and I still don't understand what the hell's happening there.
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>>258449290
Is that a screen of Aurora or Distant Worlds?
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>>258450317
>>258451068
>>258451150
>Kindness (kindity) on /v/
>only in non-vidya thread
Stunning.
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>>258451415
We'll never know until some poor xenos bastard is unlucky enough to find out.
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>>258450793
This is my only problem with KSP it could be so great but fucking Squad is and has stated they will continue to cater to casuals, luckily there are mods that fix this but I'm worried it will get harder for the mod makers to maintain them as Squad keeps adding dumbed down features that don't play nice with mods.
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>>258451460
It's quite fun, even though its cartoony. Mods make it amazing. Dont play vanilla though, the devs are fucking jews and have pretty much made it their mission to casualize the game while adding as little content as possible.
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>>258451231
is that supposed to be some kind of living thing?
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>>258451460
>>258451426
the comet always moved..
The bramble enters the course of the asteroid.
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>>258451621
Those are always the best threads anyway.
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>>258451460
>I've quite a few times beforehand and I still don't understand what the hell's happening there.
The player is climbing out of the Nomad right as it starts to pass through the Dark Bramble. It happens right before the sun explodes, and as far as I know, is just a cool coincidence in their orbits. The player dies because they get smashed through the brambles.
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>>258451327
>Everything grand we know was discovered 1950-1990s
Why is there such lack of progress? I don't think i've read a discovery regarding space released as late as 2000
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>>258450119
>aurora
I've heard lots of good things about this and your post has only convinced me. Where can I obtain it?
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>>258451512
Aurora. Distant Worlds looks quite different.
It's not made in Visual Basic for one.
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>>258451762
some time ago the explorers entered our solar system, with them they brought artifacts. These pods landed in the middle of our planets/rocks and created weird anomalies which resulted in, the bramble and the others. We just discovered a way to fly around in space and you're one of the lucky ones go out there and find out about the mysteries and what the fuck they were doing in our system.
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>>258451819
That's probably because you're a pleb who doesnt read astronomy journals. It's not that there's been a lack of process, its more like we're at a point of diminishing returns with the tech that we have
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>>258451775
Yeah, i worded my question badly. I didn't know they would collide at one point.
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>>258451231
I remember there is a weird planet with giant spikes everywhere. I took a flight to there, when I tried to land some giant black creature ate me.

I stop playing that game since then.
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>>258452067
they dont have to
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>>258451819
there's only so much we can observe with our current tech
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>>258451906
You can grab it here
>>258447196

>>258451819
Did you not hear the news about the discovery of gravity waves?
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>>258452045
True, but i'm not the kind of pleb who reads useless things in the fields of astronomy. I prefer actually useful science like oceanography
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>>258452151
there's a miniature scaled statue in the ... place on your home planet explaining what that was
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>>258451775
>>258451783
Oh, now I see. Damn, that sounds like a very interesting, yet creepy, experience.
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>>258422241
Join a corp m8
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>>258452268
>proceeds to change the focus to a completely different field
well ok
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>>258451719
So, I can just pirate it and try it out?
>Mods make it amazing.
Any suggested or is it safe to dive in and look for whatever there is?
Also, thanks.
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>>258452268

>says no progress has been made
>is exposed to know jackshit
>whatever it's useless anyway

lel
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>>258451294
Gamma. Ray. Bursts. On the death of a very large star the energy released is so incredibly, unbelievably massive, that it outshines the rest of the galaxy on its explosion. At the poles a firestorm of gamma rays shoot out at near he speed of light roasting anything in its way. If either one were to ever hit Earth it would one shot our atmosphere, effectively killing everything on Earth. And we'd have zero warning that it was coming. There would be nothing we could do or no way we could possibly react. For several years we thought WR-104 was pointed directly at us and would eventually kill us. Only recently did we discover that its aim was only just off.
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>>258451226
>I'm excited for the final release.
Anon... I...
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>>258449918
what are those 2 orange spot things on the end of your probe m8? look like neat little radiators
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>>258452542
It's pretty damn interesting, but ultimately useless. Because we'll be gone and forgotten long time before humanity will ever have the chance of understanding anything
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>>258452660
SPEAK
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>>258427398

Start playing SE with this playing post yfw
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>>258452654
explain
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>Space thread

Oh boy, let's say hello to Mr Saturn!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY2jv4GWUhQ
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>>258452325
I was once inside the Nomad just kind of floating around, not realizing that it was about to slingshot right around the sun, and suddenly I just started getting flung violently around and died. That game is just full of unexpected experiences, it's fantastic fun.
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>>258451686
What dumbed down features have they added? I havent played KSP in a long time
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>>258452537
>can I just pirate it
I would highly advise against wasting money on it so yes. It's in theory a good game, the devs just dont deserve the money.
You can just dive in for mods but a few good ones are B9 Aerospace, KW Rocketry, Kethane, and Kerbal Attachment System. That gives a good balance of realistic parts and enhanced gameplay without a whole bunch of complicated additional gimmicks.
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>>258452654

Things like this depress me. It proves that there's no place for life in the universe. And even if there were it would only be temporary as everything will eventually die out. Not even a cycle of rebirth, nothing. I find it hard to accept that everything is doomed to be an endless, empty void.
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>>258452823
Hey, what do you know! I was completely wrong and it wasn't dead!

>It’s been a while since we last broke radio silence, so we just wanted to confirm that development on Outer Wilds is still underway!
>April 8, 2014
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>tfw there will be a time when all the stars have burned out, the black holes have evaporated, and there will be no usable energy left for intelligent life to exist.
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>>258452823
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s83TNBPJePY
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>>258453092
>intelligent life
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>>258452897
Basically Gamma Ray Bursts are like celestial rifles that burn down whatever it happens to be aiming at. But the beams are narrow and the likelihood of being hit by either one is staggeringly low since space is huge. We were just really unnerved by WR-104 because it was pointed in our general direction. But after years of watching it we learned that it was going to miss us and it's death won't mean the apocalypse for Earth.
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>>258453301
oh right it's like a disc then and we thought we were in the hole direction
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Daily reminder that Jupiter is best planet.

Uranus fags get fucked.
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>>258453012
Take heart. You won't be here for the end. You were born during the party time for life. So enjoy the party while you're here.
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>>258453398
That's quite the view.
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>>258453092
Speaking of burnt out stars and no more usable energy.
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
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>>258453398
>tfw your planet night sky will NEVER EVER have such a view of another galaxy.
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>>258452981
They added 5m NASA parts for one, which are babby mode overpowered. They've also talked of a mechjeb like autopilot. Really its not so much adding casual features, its mostly just the fact that they're neglecting good features in favor of ones that the casuals want. Resources and mining were a long time request by the original community, but instead it was shitcanned in favor of multiplayer that nobody asked for and was considered impossible by the devs themselves for many years.
Essentially what happened to Minecraft ;_;
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>>258452913
Why couldn't earth have been a large moon orbiting a gas giant
Whats the point of living?
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>>258453092
But there are cosmic "factories" that produce/create new stars.
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>>258447196
The download in that link has a virus in it.
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>>258450834
I don't want to use this word, but really, OW was so comfy, just sitting next to a bro playing drums while the world went to shit in a blaze of light and glory
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>>258453617
Sure it will. Just come back in 4 billion years.
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>>258453617
yes it will
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>>258453674
Not if there arent any cosmic factories
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>>258453495

But it means everything is pointless. And being a human I can't accept that.

I've decided that there must be other universes out there we can escape to when the time comes.
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>>258453674
Entropy anon. Eventually the usable energy will run out.
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>>258453483
>implying you can beat Neptune
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>>258453092
There will also be a point when then universe collapses and reforms, a "second" big bang, although it is most likely an eternal cycle.

I'm gonna be optimistic and hope for the chance to reroll, there's too much content for just one playthrough.
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more humanity fuck yeah pls
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>>258453991
>There will also be a point when then universe collapses and reforms, a "second" big bang, although it is most likely an eternal cycle.
Not if Dark Energy has anything to say about it. And where we stand right now Dark Energy has a lot to say.
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>>258429338
>Encompassing

this is my favourite misnoma about the universe
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>>258453991

That's not happening, sorry. Our current understanding of the universe only permits the heat death.
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>>258453846
There aren't even enough resources left on Earth to both last us until we can manage decent space travel AND support real proliferation beyond Earth. That's not even taking into account the immediate threat of drastic climate change within the next couple of centuries and whatever other things might pop up that will just make it even harder.
Earth is a terminal planet.
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>>258453991
I believe in some theory about time and information being a cycle i've read once. I don't remember much about it, but it seemed pretty reasonable enough for a theory.

Though that would mean we'd have to live as virgin neets for all ethernity, cycle after cycle.
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>>258453846
>I've decided that there must be other universes out there we can escape to when the time comes.

if you're going to make shit up, you might as well just believe in an afterlife like everyone else.
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>>258453764
>>258453780
I went full retard indeed.
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>>258419410
Warframe
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>>258453896
Neptune's 2nd best actually.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBDZtt0vWD8

too close
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>>258454360

But consciousness is nothing more than a complex system of chemical reactions and electrical impulses. When you die that just ceases to happen.

Also

>like everyone else
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>>258422101
>jpg
>still moving
fucking what
>>
Freelancer if you don't just want some indie bullshit but some action mixed in.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLK57vhc_c4

Reality is weirder than fiction.
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>>258454427
lol no fuck that
>>
>tfw reading Revelation Space series
>>
Why is extraterrestrial geography so cool?
>>
Meh, humanity will most likely murder itself and render it's technological progress null and void long before we get to understand shit.

I mean, military spending dwarfs astronomy and related fields by huge, and everyone thinks this is completely acceptable and reasonable.
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>>258454345
If you're thinking of the Big Crunch Theory

>Eventually the mutual gravity from all things in the universe will cause universal expansion to slow, stop, and then reverse to whatever it was that made the big bang

then you're out of luck because of dark energy

>far away galaxies are not slowing down but instead everything is speeding up away from us. There's some unknown energy source driving the universe apart. And if that doesn't change then eventually we're going to hit a point where stellar formation will be impossible and gravity will succumb to Dark Energy, creating eternal dark and nothingness

To put it in videogame terms:
The present = The Age of Fire
The future = The Age of Dark
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>>258454321
>Ice ages
>Meteors
>Yellowstone
>Gamma ray bursts
>sun becoming red giant
Might as well kill myself already.
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>>258453617
that's good
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>>258454596
>But consciousness is nothing more than a complex system of chemical reactions and electrical impulses. When you die that just ceases to happen.

no shit, but if you've "decided there are other universes we can escape to" then you might as well just save a step and decide your immortal soul goes to funland when you die. neither is going to happen, as far as we know.

>like everyone else

turn of phrase, anon.
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>>258454553
no thanks.
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>>258454124
>mfw 96% percent of the energy in the universe is all around us, and has only ever been observed by its gravitational effect in distant galaxies
>we do not have a single clue what the fuck it even is
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>>258454829
We still don't have a clear picture of dark energy yet. Hell, we don't have a half decent picture of what "time" really is either. I'd say it's too early to write off one or accept the other just yet.
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>>258454553
the unfathomable void of space I'm ok with, but I can't handle unfathomably huge objects
>>
OFFICIAL PLANET RATINGS

>Has life and a bagillion different climates and wonders tier
Earth

>Guardian of the solar system tier
Jupiter

>Beautiful tier
Neptune
Saturn

>Deadly tier
Venus

>Has potential tier
Mars

>Babby tier
Pluto

>LOL tier
Uranus

>Boring dead rock not even worth being strip mined tier
Mercury
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>>258453092
>tfw the luminescence of the sun is steadily increasing and 800-900 million years from now, it will get so hot that Earth's seas will boil and Earth will gradually resemble Venus.
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>>258455013

As far as we know, no. That doesn't change that only one of those, no matter how unlikely, could happen in the future.
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>>258454737
>tfw reading Blindsight
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>>258455240
>Implying we won't be clubbing on Europa by then
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>>258455179
What is so shit about Uranus?
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>>258455110
>>258455110
This,

"dark energy" is a theory, we could easily have a completely different understanding of everything we know about the universe in 50 years.
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>>258455385
Joke tier planet m8.
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>>258455240
It'll eventually get to a point where it becomes larger than Earth's orbit. Humans will probably have died out by that point. Fun stuff!
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>>258455387
That being said there is "something" that's pushing everything away from us. That's probably not going to change.

>tfw the Milky Way is that awkward kid who smells and no one wants to be near him

Will Andromeda-kun accept us?
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>>258455179
>Pluto
>Planet
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>>258455110

The only reason we 'know' dark energy exists is because it has to. It's like one of those math problems you got in school like 2+_=4.
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>>258455179
>pluto
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>>258455387
Dark Energy and Dark Matter are just placeholder words. We don't know much of anything about either of them, other than that the shit is everywhere and we can't see it except by its gravitational influence.
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>>258455176
What about the unfathomably large void on our very Earth?

Most of the ocean is actually empty of life aside from some scarce algae, particularly the gyres, but it is VAST, and when you're submerged in the middle of it far away from everything, it's dark, you can't see anything, you don't even know HOW FAR you're seeing, there's nothing around you but you can't stop feeling like something's just out of sight or behind you or beneath you, and instead of floating in nothing you feel yourself completely submerged in this viscous liquid that restricts your movement and ability to move quickly while everything else living in it can move and attack with ease.
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>>258454553
i think this would be cool

i especially like the little period of night in the middle of the day.
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>>258455654
>>258455726
What's the problem?
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>>258455665
Didn't those nerds at CERN smack balls together until they made a tiny black matter/energy some time back? I seem to recall public hysteria and doom sayings about it.
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>>258448708
>get a load of this moron
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>>258455385
>what is so shit
>Ur anus=Your anus
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>>258455881
They said micro-black holes were possible but they evaporate instantly.
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>>258455881
The collisions at CERN create very small, extremely short-lived black holes. I think it has something to do with anti-matter, not dark matter.
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>>258455385
Urmomanus

#REKT
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>Space Engine still doesnt have cockpits to simulate a lonely space explorer
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>>258455880
you put pluto in your planet list, when it's not a planet. easy mistake, glad we could clear it up.
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>>258455897
you can't prove its wrong anymore than you can prove it right
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What was that planet with methane oceans? Neptune?
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>>258448708
Well no, but I guess you could say that it is the orbiting center of the solar system?
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>>258456060
Well it is considered a candidate for Dark Matter but where we stand we still have no idea what the fuck Dark Matter even is aside for the fact that the shit is everywhere and we can't see, touch, or interact with it.
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>>258456271
Yo momma ass has plenty of methane inside, and it's a planet
jk
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>>258456094
Ummm, I believe it is. You see it orbits the sun and also has a smaller moon orbiting it. Definition of a planet. Just because it's a little small doesn't mean its not. Earth is smaller relative to Jupiter and Saturn, Mars is smaller relative to Earth, doesn't mean they're not planets. glad I could educate you on that friend.
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I liked those space mods for Gary's mod that was all the rage some years back. With zero gravity, oxygen/energy/etc and different planet maps with different biomes.

Shame building a big ship in Gmod is like trying to build a pyramide with marbles.
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>>258456271
You're thinking of Titan. And it's not a planet, it's one of Saturn's moons.
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>>258456346

The centre of the solar system is inside the sun, so for simplicity's sake you can say the sun is the centre.
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>>258456485
>Pluto headcanon
Jesus Christ
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>>258456526
No, i was fairly certain it was one of the big boys that also had methane oceans
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>>258453991
It's called the big crunch.
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>>258456651
>implying
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>>258456485
go watch rick n morty understand why the plutonians should stfu and stop calling it a planet
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>>258456485
It's a dwarf planet if it hasn't cleared its orbit, also Pluto has 3 moons Charon, Nix and the other the name escapes me.
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>>258456651
>Implying you don't ship Pluto with the Moon
They're the true OTP
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>>258456358
Basically, yeah. There's only so much you can say about dark matter, since we know so little. There's a lot of shit you can speculate about, though! What if the extra gravity we're observing is actually leaking through from another universe?
Maybe it exists on another demension, or is perhaps a manifestation of the "strings" in String Theory.
Or maybe our entire understanding of the universe is just fundamentally incorrect. We just don't know.
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>>258456670
Well there are only 4 terrestial planets and of those 4 only one of them has oceans. The rest of them are just fuck huge balls of gas with no definable surface. Are you thinking of methane atmosphere?
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>>258454829
>Implying the universe won't just split in two, like a single-celled organism multiplying, thus adding to the already innumerable multiverse
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We should start digging on mars. We could find water inside which would dramatically increase the chance of life. Maybe we'll even find some bacteria.
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>>258457017
>implying there is any evidence at all for a multiverse
It's a really cool concept, but come on.
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>>258454553
Jesus Christ, I have nightmares where the moon is just getting closer and closer as the day goes by. I'm freaking out, but everyone else is fine.

And I've never even played Majora's Mask. It's just like a fear of an asteroid on megaroids for me.
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>>258456853
>hasn't cleared its orbit
what do you mean?
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>>258456875
I take issue with the lack of proper scale in this image.
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>>258456930
I'm not sure anymore, to be honest. Might be atmosphere i was thinking about. But for some reason i seem to recall reading some interesting shit about Neptune or one of the planets having oceans based on methane.

Granted, not as in "typical" ocean we have on earth, but something akin to it.
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>>258457213
It dips into the keeper belt last I checked which had many objects similar to Pluto.
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http://kokogiak.com/solarsystembodieslargerthan200miles.html

>Even just within our solar system there's so many objects to visit and orbit
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>>258457078
>Let's go to Mars

As much as we'd like to go explore and/ or terraform Mars there's a list of reasons why we can't do that. Mostly because it would take such an unbelievably incredible amount of resources just to get there without even considering how the explorers are going to get back. We would have to completely rethink of how we spend our budget and trust me it would take a world effort to pull off. But even if we did do it, the travelers would have to be psychologically prepared to be completely separated, not just from human life which is already an incredible hurdle, but from the Earth itself for at least a year and totally cut off form assistance if they needed it.
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Sometimes when I'm lying in bed at night I close my eyes and imagine what it would be like to get teleported to a random point in space, like a hostile alien planet or near a sun. Then I stop because it's horrifying.
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>>258457226
Isn't Pluto the size of a large comet? Why do people insist we keep calling it a planet?
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>>258457078
>Maybe we'll even find some bacteria.
And that's where humanity fucks up. We can't even deal with thousands of strains of bacteria from our own planet.
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>>258454345
>>258454829
i think he means the "time is a flat circle" thing from true detective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ztQMr7VqA

well, it's not actually from true detective, it's from nietzche:

>What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more' ... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.'

the basic idea being that you live your own life an infinite number of times, exactly the same each time. is that a horrifying idea, or comforting?

anyway, i don't think there's any real science behind it.
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>>258457472

They recently tested an engine that could take us there in about 30 days, so it's not that far away.
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>>258457509
Because they grew up with the notion/education that it is one.

It's like being told you're wrong about something you've believed all your life. People just refuse to accept it.
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>>258455240
It would be one hell of an orbital mechanics problem, but I've heard we could set a bunch of asteroids in highly elliptical orbits around the Earth to slowly pull it to a safe distance away from the sun over several hundred million years
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>>258419410
spore
;_;
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>>258453674
>He thinks that will last forever!
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Aint those eggheads at NASA planning a manned mission to Mars "soon"?
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>>258457472
Getting to Mars isn't the issue, lots of people are willing and the technology is there.

The problem is getting them back, and getting them back without radiation poisoning.
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>>258457509
it's bigger than your average comet but if you put it next to oh say, Jupiter well... if you want to fit the entirety of Jupiter in the picture, Pluto would be a dot, thats my problem here, this picture implies pluto is anywhere near as big as even mercury
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>>258457678
Emdrive?
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>>258457663

The idea of eternity is horrifying by itself.
If I could I'd like to live for thousands of years, maybe more, but eventually I'd want to rest.
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>>258457663
Especially if it's from a dipshit like Nietzche.
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>>258457818
is that a baked potato
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>>258457818
Wouldn't a small planet like that get burned the fuck up from being so "close" to such a large star?
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>>258457509
Here's the basic story of Pluto:

Once upon a time we thought there was only 8 celestial bodies orbiting the Sun and that aside for asteroids, everything was a planet. So when we found Pluto we just assumed it was a planet and that's just how it was. But Pluto out of the gate we weird. It's orbit was weird, it's size was weird. Then one day we started finding other things of similar size to Pluto. So is that a planet too? Then we found other things even bigger than Pluto. So is that a planet too? Are all these thousands of things floating past Uranus and Neptune planets? So in 2006 everyone sat down to define exactly what it means to be a planet. And when the discussion was over it was decided that Pluto was not big enough to be a planet. But there are people who spent their entire lives believing Pluto to be a planet so it pissed them off.
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>>258457868
>literal autism

it's just some shitty digital pic m8, seriously.
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>>258458129
in short, yes.

My guess is either SE needs more tweaking or this was altered with the planet editor.
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I don't get why this freaks people out. There's something romantic about the size of the universe. Imagine setting foot on a desolate planet in an uncharted region of space. You look up to the sea of lights with the host star lingering on the horizon. You're hit by the realization that you don't even know which direction the Milky Way is.
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>>258458524
Fear is the kindest word for stupidity, wouldn't you agree?
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>>258453891
Energy doesn't run out, it gets turned into something else.
NOTHING in the universe goes to waste.
Now post more HUMANITY FUCK YEAR.
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>>258458524
well if your in the milkyway or at least closeish to it, all you need is a clear nightsky with no light pollution and you can straight up see it, during some blackout in america this freaked people the fuck out in the big cities, they weren't used to seeing the rest of the galaxy up there.
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>>258428801
>what is a world line
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>>258458615
Entropy doesn't mean it "goes away." It means it's no longer usable. It can't be used to create stars. If you don't have stars you don't have galaxies. You don't have planets. You don't have life. When the last star burns out the universe will be dead.
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>>258458615
Black holes absorb energy and give off very little (small little burbs of radiation, thats about it).

Look up the heat death of the universe.
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>>258458524
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>>258458612
you, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman
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>>258428801
???
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>>258458894
Couldn't you harvest the energy from the accretion disk/jets of a quasar? Might extend the time that intelligent life exists?
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Hypothetical question for you guys.

If you were offered, through some miracle of science or magic or however you want to justify it, the cognitive ability to truly comprehend the size of the universe, and the true nature of life within.. would you?

Now, it comes with a warning: the knowledge you gain will destroy your humanity. You'll no longer be able to empathize with the life on a tiny planet in a tiny corner of a tiny galaxy. You'll understand truly the insignificance of our lives.

Do you accept?
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>>258455773
nope, the deep ocean threads don't really get to me. I enjoy them, but they never instill dread.

but for some reason, massive, inanimate things do. maybe it has to do with the overwhelming perspective shift - like the moon in that video, moving at speeds you cannot possibly imagine, which never really occurs to you until it gets closer. it's all relative, and we're just sitting on this ball where stuff is comfortable for perception. but out there, there are rogue stars flying through the cosmos at incomprehensible speeds, neutron stars rotating hundreds of times a second, storms so large that they could engulf our planet. the forces working behind these things are so alien to our brains, but they're real and out there, right now.
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>>258458524
Heat Death scares the fuck out of me
I can handle the extinction of mankind, the destruction of earth, etc. But the eventual nothingness of the entire universe just bums me the fuck out
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>>258459214
Any amount of energy you harvest from a quasar would probably be more energy than has ever been emitted by our Sun
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>>258439217
fucking christ. this thing has tumbled across space for eons. its featureless voids have never known contact. imagine being in a crevice on the surface of this thing enduring a millenia without light. fuck.
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>>258459385
>You'll no longer be able to empathize with the life on a tiny planet in a tiny corner of a tiny galaxy
>implying
anyway I wouldn't, fuck that shit
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>>258459385
Destroy your mind more like, I read hitchhikers guide to the galaxy and I don't have a pocket universe where I'm the most important guy in it.
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>>258428838
this is... ps4 game....
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>>258459608
Well the more shit you oversee the harder it is to micromanage. I mean really do you give a shit when you step on an ant on your way to work? Of course not. You have bigger things to worry about. When you start getting into positions like a military general, can you afford to give a shit and grieve whenever you hear that one of the soldiers in one of the several units you command die? You can't. You have to think about your army as a whole. Now scale that up to where you effectively have the knowledge of a god. Do you really think mundane things about finding your perfect waifu will matter anymore? You see on the literal, not figurative, literal scale of the universe where all life that has ever existed you now know of.
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>>258433287
Because you can import and 'fly' shit around in SE.
SE is a game.
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>>258459385
I would.
I know I would get super-depression but I'd deal with it anyway. And I'd make do with this knowledge to push humanity onward.
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>>258429589
What is this? It's gorgeous and reverse image search gives nothing
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>>258457851
Why would you want them to go back?
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>>258459385
Of course not. I'm only on this planet for a tiny fraction of time. I'd rather party it up than lose what defines me as a human.

The only reason I'd accept your Faustian bargain is if it gave me knowledge that could help keep humanity from going extinct, such as knowledge about how to jumpstart human space travel
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>>258429589
Space engine
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>>258453617
Just imagine the shit tribes people would come up with for that gigantic fucking eye in the night sky
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>>258459458
>but out there, there are rogue stars flying through the cosmos at incomprehensible speeds, neutron stars rotating hundreds of times a second, storms so large that they could engulf our planet

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/jun/HQ_12-182_Chandra_Black_Hole_Ejected.html

>Giant Black Hole Kicked Out of Home Galaxy
>Although the ejection of a supermassive black hole from a galaxy by recoil because more gravitational waves are being emitted in one direction than another is likely to be rare, it nevertheless could mean that there are many giant black holes roaming undetected out in the vast spaces between galaxies.
>"These black holes would be invisible to us," said co-author Laura Blecha, also of CfA, "because they have consumed all of the g