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This year, Nintendo has: >lowered the price of the Wii U

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This year, Nintendo has:

>lowered the price of the Wii U significantly.
>offered a bundle that included two games, two controllers, and an exclusive Mario hat.
>had a solid presentation at E3, announcing fan favorite games and showing nothing but gameplay unlike Sony and Microsoft.
>offered free online multiplayer that has never experienced downtimes.

The problem is not Nintendo.

The problem is idiots who don't realize how amazing the Wii U is.
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What if the general public just aren't interested in Nintendo's first party offerings?
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>>257789259
>an exclusive Mario hat

Is... a $1 trinket considered a plus?
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>>257789259
>lowered the price of the Wii U significantly.
How much did it cost before?
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>had a solid presentation at E3, announcing fan favorite games
That will come out in 2015
I can count the number of good Wii U exclusives on one hand.
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>>257789406
they're sure the hell not interesting in Microsofts or Sony's games, which basically means they're not buying consoles for the games
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>>257789831
That logic falls apart because the PS4 and Xbox One aren't riding solely on their first party games.
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Soon.
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>>257789947
>>257789947
>That logic falls apart because the PS4 and Xbox One aren't riding solely on their first party games.
Seems like that last part actually agrees with the statement
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>>257789826
>exclusives
Fuck exclusives.
Exclusives are the problem with gaming today.
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>>257789259
The wii-u is shit, deal with it.
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>>257789259
Needs better and more 3rd party titles.

Not everyone love mario and zelda and shit.

Also a ton of people are waiting for smash bros.
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>>257790164
I'm okay with exclusives.
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>>257790164
That wasn't the point of my post, but fine.
I can count the number of good Wii U games on one hand.
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It's already over.

Make your time.
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marketing, MARKETING
M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G.

There is a lack of it, and stock of physical games too.
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>>257790303
smash is less popular than mario kart
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>>257789259
no this proves the problem is nintendo has shit games no one wants to play
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>>257789963
If it happens this will be the best version until PC comes out
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>>257790420
>marketing
People just don't want a Wii U.
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>>257790303
>Needs better and more 3rd party titles.
But the ps4 didn't get much of those neither.
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>>257790148
...No, not really? The PS4 and Xbox One both have significant third party libraries which the Wii U lacks, and judging by sales, are one of the driving forces behind the adoption of the PS4 and Xbox One, alongside the previously mentioned first party offerings.

Conversely the Wii U only has it's first party offerings with very little of anything else, so if the general public is not interested in those titles, they have no reason to consider one otherwise.
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>lowered the price of the Wii U significantly.
Unless it's about 100 bucks, I don't consider it worth the price. After what consoles have put me through, they want to be greedy? No thank you.

>offered a bundle that included two games, two controllers, and an exclusive Mario hat.
Nothing I wanted, nothing that I considered interesting.

>>had a solid presentation at E3, announcing fan favorite games and showing nothing but gameplay unlike Sony and Microsoft.
They had a Family Guy tier Robot Chicken skit and introduced games I couldn't care less for, along with shovelware and overhyped AAA trash. Might as well ask me to be excited for the new Call of Duty.

>offered free online multiplayer that has never experienced downtimes.
I have the same thing on my PC, and I don't suffer region locking or forced console limitations, like demanding I use their controllers.

Tell me what I miss by sticking to my PC. I get the best versions of all multiplats, my very own exclusives, and I don't miss out on anything from consoles since I don't consider their exclusives good enough.
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>>257790654
That's bullshit though.
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>>257790557

that's why M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G
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>>257790557
People doesn't know what a wiiu is, we had in my country the damn ps4 advertisement 20 times every day on tv, there is even 1FUCKING MINUTE LONG candy crush saga ads, and not a single nintendo ads, we didn't get any mario kart ads in tv, nothing

And there is no fucking stock of anything in any shopping mall or game shops but lego whatever and disney infinity.
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>>257789589
Can't remember, but now all bundles are deluxe bundles, and have gone through price drops, can get a refurbed one from Nintendo themselves for $200, comes with everything.
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>>257790718
>The PS4 and Xbox One both have significant third party libraries which the Wii U lacks
Not really
3rd party is lacking on all the consoles and it's only finally catching up, theres no way asscreed and Cod carried 14 million sales of consoles
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>>257790480
Not in the actual core market.

In the casual market yes, MKwii is the best selling game ever basically.

Also many people only care for kart and smash. They dont want to get it just for kart, one game isnt enough. Smash will be the tipping point for many many people.

Tons of my friends are getting one for smash, and a few already got one for kart.
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What needs to be done:

- Change the name. Call it the Super Nintendo.

- Throw money at third parties for timed exclusives.

- play the consumer rights angle and slag off Playstation 4.
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>>257790976
>shovelware and ps3 games
Oh boy, though
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>amazing
I own one and I like it, but let's not pretend that it's some gift from the gods.

And the price drop was not "significant" enough, especially with the size of the SSD. The only appropriately priced Wii Us are the refurbs you can buy directly from Nintendo
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>>257790871
>Unless it's about 100 bucks
>Nothing I wanted
So you're being unreasonable, got it.
Could've just said "I'm not here to have a reasonable discussion, I'm the annoying PCFag that other PC users distance themselves from"
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>>257791394

Seems like the same thing for all consoles. You can see why I show a dislike for "next gen".
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>blaming the market
Or you know everyone be happy with just their 3DS.
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>>257791170
>There's no way Ass Creed and CoD carried 14 million sales of consoles
Ass Creed, CoD, Battlefield, FIFA, Watch_Dogs etc. etc + relevant exclusives depending on platform did exactly that though. The numbers don't lie.
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>>257791441

>So you're being unreasonable, got it.

How am I being unreasonable? I'm sick of consoles demanding top prices for their low quality hardware, and still trying to milk me of all my money. Why should I give them any slack? How does that benefit me?
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>>257791394
I didn't say you had to be interested in those games. I'm saying the argument that the PS4 (and Xbox One) has the same lack of third party support as the Wii U is incorrect.
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I know what the Wii U is. I know what it's strong points are. I'm still not getting one because they don't appeal to me.
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>cheapest console
>comes with free online
>comes with a screen to play games if your without tv
>controller has a camera and mic built in for voice/video chat with no peripherals despite being underused
>no doritos/walking dead advertising all over the place
>rewards program gives you free games on top of the games you buy
>all tied to an easy to use account system

The only thing I wish it had is cross game party chat and a better messaging system. That can be added though. The work they did this year on the wii u was already bretty good. Its faster and convenient as fuck now.
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>>257789259
i just traded my ps4 for a mid range PC with a 7870 and some cash. is the only logical thing to do at this point is getting a wii u?
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>>257792308
If you like nintendo games yes. Theres tons of fun in those and the other games coming soon are gonna be great as well.
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>>257791343
What needs to be done:
Fucking make commercials and advertise your goddamn products. I understand you're trying to get into the internet age BUT DON'T NEGLECT TELEVISION AND RADIO JUST BECAUSE INTERNET.
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>>257792308
you could technically play PC games and just don't care about console peasants.
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>>257792447

Oh. I don't find modern Nintendo games fun anymore, so I guess I'll pass.
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>>257792308
Just wait for Wii U emulation.
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>>257792512
Do you like musou?
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>>257792447
If you dont like nintendo games then no.

Not until next year. The other games will be out and bundles will be better.

I'm honestly excited for stuff like splatoon and devils third, fuck the masses and their flavor of the month tripe.
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>>257789259
Its a sad day when even /v/ doesn't like the Wii U.
Mine arrived the other day, I've really been enjoying Wonderful 101. Can't wait to get Metroid Prime trilogy next along with Hryule Warriors next month and Mon Hun
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>no games unless you want the latest iteration/roster update of nintendo games
>pay $50 more and get a PS4 or a powerful GPU
>good E3 true, but just showed off the same shit they've been showing since its launch in 2012
>online can't possibly go down when only 100 people are online

Hate to tell you this OP you ginormous faggot, but not everyone wants to play the same shit they played as a kid with better graphics.
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>>257791628
How is $200 a top price? If you're a PC friend, you should have no problem paying that, paid more than that for my CPU alone. Regardless, your personal position on consoles is irrelevant anon, companies don't factor how you feel about gaming consoles into the price of it, get over yourself. If you don't like the price, fine, don't buy it, but don't act like $200 isn't a completely reasonable price for what you're getting. A console, accessories, and a game, which is a hell of a lot more than a console and a controller for $400, power differences aside.
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>>257792308

if you want a console AND like Nintendo games, yeah.
Don't count on emulation. Wii U is way different then the others, it can take a shit ton of time, if it ever happens.
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>>257792634

No, I don't.

>>257792717

>How is $200 a top price?

Because it's not worth it to me, because it has 0 games I want. I've tried convincing myself "maybe I should invest in it" and I had some Nintendo fanboys as friends, so I mooched off of them for a bit and tried their Wii-U. Let me tell you, it was a very unpleasant experience.

>but don't act like $200 isn't a completely reasonable price for what you're getting.

It's not reasonable. Comparing it to the Ps4 means nothing to me, because I consider that even more of a ripoff.
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>mfw less than 40 watts in game
How do you make great graffix with less power consumption than the wii?

The other consoles make sense but the wii u is an anomaly with how efficient it is.
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>>257793043
I guess my face is in this post instead.
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>>257789259
I really just don't want a console with a giant touchpad controller for gaming. I feel Nintendo has basically pushed me away from their system even though I do want to play a lot of the games from on it.
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>>257792641
amen, Splatoon looks great
-Bayo 2
-Smash
-Hyrule Warriors
-Splatoon
-Xenoblade Chronicles X
-Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
-SMT x FE

This and tons of E-shop re-releases, man its good to be a Nintendo fan
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>>257789259
>lowered the price of the Wii U significantly.

50 dollars is not "significantly"
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>>257792987
>It was a very unpleasant experience
I don't see how the experience is any different than other systems, game selection aside.
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>>257793241

I hate posts like this, because if anyone expressed their joy of games on another console in this exact manner, you would pounce on them and angrily yell at them how they're "cancer who are killing the industry".

Damn hypocrites.
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>>257792987
If it was an unpleasant experience, and it has 0 games you want, why did you bother to even try to discuss this? If you seriously think $200 is unreasonable, despite other consoles being even more of a ripoff, in your words, then you're clearly not the person the Wii U is aiming for, and you have no relevance. What you want out of the Wii U is clearly not what the Wii U is aimed at, it's fine that you're PC, I am too, but don't blame consoles for doing console things.
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>tfw PC + WiiU masterrace

mah niggas [email protected]
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>>257789259
The "problem" is that the WiiU, no matter how great it is, is still a niche platform.

Most people aren't go-hards like /v/. They only buy one platform, or two at most. Don't get me wrong, I'm hyped to buy a WiiU this year, but if you put it next to a 3DS, Vita, and PC, and said I could only have one, it would probably the last platform I'd consider.
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>>257793201
In W101 you don't need to use the touch pad hardly you can make the shapes with the right stick.
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>>257791343
>play the consumer rights angle and slang off the Playstation 4
How is that going to work when Nintendo has the worst digital content store and system in gaming. It says right in the End-User license agreement that nothing you purchase off the e-shop you own. You are simply paying for a license to play the game. And all those licenses are tied to your console.
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I do not know what people mean when they say they don't like Nintendo games. As in the game play, not the aesthetics or anything. But how they play...they're all tightly designed with solid mechanics with a reasonable amount of depth (some more than others, depends on the franchise really), usually with extremely good level design to boot.

Do they mean they don't like well made games or something? I don't get what they mean when they say such a broad statement.
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>>257789259
>The problem is not Nintendo.
>The problem is idiots who don't realize how amazing the Wii U is.

TOP LEL! I always hear that from Nintendrones, I'm not surprised though, the manlet who runs that company thinks the same.
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Mordern ''gamers'' are brainwashed by the typical marketing of western devs.

These people are the majority now and they don't know better.They think video games is all about those cutscene Hollywood style shit or that QTE events are so fucking badass and awesome.So yeah pretty much casual and normies ruinned everything but the real cause is all those shitty devs like bioware,EA and mores
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>>257793358
>>257793381

I hate the controller, I hated the games, I hated Miiverse, and worst of all I hated how limited it felt. The online was atrocious compared to my PC.

I'm not gonna forgive consoles for being scam machines. I don't do that anons.
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>>257789259
Honestly, I can't explain it:

>Nintendo pushing out games, lowers the price on its main console and bundles it with a fuckton of shit
>Huge titles already released, with more to come
>Wii U still collects dust in shelves

>M$ marketing the fuck out of their console, which isn't backwards compatible, will spy on you, and runs games at sub -1080p
>Manages more sales than the Wii U on its own first year

>Sony doesn't even try to market games for the PS4
>Putting in retarded rental services (seriously $4 for 4 hours?)
>Little to no releases in months
>Not backwards compatible either
>Outsells both consoles that actually got some games
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>>257793290
*Lowered the price by $50 and stopped selling the basic bundle, so the deluxe bundle would be the only one, set at the same price, and then got the price hit

Not even kidding, try buying one on amazon, can't get the basic bundle from Nintendo
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>>257793476
>>257793513

>Nintendo has never once made a bad game ever

Do you guys actually believe this?
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>>257793556
$4 used to get me a week at blockbuster and hollywood video...
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>>257792308
>i just traded my ps4 for a mid range PC with a 7870 and some cash.
Of course you did, Nintendrone.
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>>257793359
GR8 B8 M8
>Not being Wii U+PS3+PC Master race

none of the other consoles have much to be hyped for

PS4
-Bloodborne

Xbone
-Scalebound
-Halo MCC
arguably sunset overdrive
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>>257793679
name it then
we all know you going to say metroid other m
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>>257793516
>Being scam machines
There you go again man, you're being unreasonable and not helping the discussion.

>Hated the games
>Hated Miiverse
>Hated how limited it felt

Welcome to opinions anon, these are yours, other people have differing opinions, and honestly you're being pretty unreasonable in expecting PC quality from a console. No console promised that, or offered that in any way, you buy a console for the stuff the console has, if you don't like it, then it's not for you.
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>>257793679
I never said that, retard.

>>257793784
quantum break looks great.
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>>257793784

>having a PS3
>When you said Ps3 had no games

Are you baiting me?
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>>257791106
Marketing can only create awareness, not make people buy something they don't want. Some of the biggest commercial flops also had big marketing campaigns

>>257791125
>People doesn't know what a wiiu is
I suspect you people will be using this excuse throughout the rest of this generation. Anything to get out of admitting consumers are disinterested and Nintendo fucked up.
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>>257793435
feels good man off TV play and browsing /v/ with wireless keyboard and mouse on my bed is the best.
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>>257793513
>>257793439
These. The 3DS+Vita+WiiU are killing it this gen, but

>3DS has no big name Nintendo games this year, so it's "dead".
>Vita has no AAA Western games, so it's "dead".
>Big Western 3rd parties aren't on the WiiU, so it's "dead".
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>>257789963
>>257790532
>Nintendrones are actually THIS retarded.
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>>257793556
PS4 is the most generic console around which is why people buy it. It has completely no image attached. It is "safe"
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>>257789826
>That will come out in 2015

Bayonetta 1/2, Toad's Treasure Tracker, Super Smash, Hyrule Warriors

An exclusive game a month until 2015.
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>>257793821
>Metroid: Other M
>bad

Nobody is falling for your bait ACfag.
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>>257789259
Keep pushing that Narrative, my brother. It's sure to catch on one of these days.
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>>257793439
It's niche because it offers nothing that the mass market wants. I wouldn't call such a system great.
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>>257792693
Idort here.
Even as someone who doesn't go gaga over everything Nintendo does, most of their games are more than just "the same but prettier." Up until the New Super Mario Bros series of Mario games, even that was doing something new every iteration. Sunshine, Inside Story, Superstar Saga, Galaxy and so on were all wildly different from each other.

Each Zelda, while having similar goals and structure, also typically have different gimmicks and strengths in totally different areas. None of them are even close to the same.

Each Smash Bros has major mechanical changes, such as the elimination of wavedashing, making things floatier, making things less floaty and giving killing power back to throws, changing edge mechanics, the nature of clones and derivatives is redefined and expanded upon.

You are confusing genre-defined traits and mechanics with sameness.
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>>257793954
When did I say that? I've made 3 posts in this thread all about Wii U games or comfiness.
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>>257794051
So, are people just buying PS4s and using it as a $400 decoration?
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>>257793556
Sony did not do the marketing themselves, the media did.
The whole "IT IS THE MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE ON THIS GEN" image attracts a lot of middle class idiots to buy it.
It's literally the same with smartphones, they buy the best ones specs-wise to browse facebook.
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>>257793784
That is indeed the best choice.I seriously don't see any reason to own a ps4.

both MGS5 and Xrd are also on ps3 and there is also P5,Persona Arena 2 and new tales of.
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>>257794271
A bad system would offer something that nobody wants. How can you call the WiiU bad if it's serving millions of happy consumers?
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>>257794179
>>257794327

I thought I would get some good discussion in this thread, about video games. Instead I get fanboys who refuse to listen to any criticism.
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>inb4 graphics whore
Nintendo, going back to up to date graphics wouldn't hurt you. Remember when Gamecube had better graphics than PS2? Sorry but it's 2014 and I refuse to buy anything that has trouble rendering in 1080p games that look seventh gen. You already fucked up with the Wii. A 480p console in 2006, for fuck's sake. You should be ashamed.
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>>257794471
this guy knows I'm hyped as fuck for Hyrule warriors and Arena 2 in the same month.
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>>257794557

>How can you call the WiiU bad if it's serving millions of happy consumers?
>How can you call the PS4 bad if it's serving even more happy customers?

People fall for hype and support anything if their favorite company okays it.
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>>257794330
Apparently Nintendronies think 10 million people do so.
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>>257793968
>Marketing can only create awareness, not make people buy something they don't want.
PFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>257793359
It happens on all consoles anon, don't blind yourself to the truth. Console faggotry is everywhere, and at least 50% of the time it's just people doing it for shits and giggles who have no real stake in the matter and just want to make everyone look bad.

Even before this gen. Even before that gen. It always happens, always and forever, time and again, so don't act surprised like it's something special.
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>>257794598
the sad thing is, this poster may be serious
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>>257794661
You know it bro hope to see you in Arena 2.
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>>257794703
I don't think either of those consoles are bad.
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>>257794598
You obviously haven't played a Wii U. Pikmin 3 is one of the prettiest games I've played in recent times.
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>>257794560
Why did you reply to me I haven't received any criticism unless it was misdirected.

>/b/ has ids and /v/ doesn't
shiggy
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>>257794327
>>257793784
ACFag pls. It's painfully obvious you're here. All you ever do is blame random people for shit other people who are completely unrelated said, as if they're one big conglomerate entity, and then act all offended when people call you out on your retardation.
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>>257794435
>The whole "IT IS THE MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE ON THIS GEN" image attracts a lot of middle class idiots to buy it.

It's the truth though. Also Pii Urine is the worst piece of hardware shit since the N-Gage. Actually the N-Gage had a better bang for your buck ratio than the Pii Urine. It's a fucking toaster from the 1990s for third world rednecks.

Stay mad and keep sucking that Nintendildo.
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>dont like nintendo games
>suddenly have no reason to own a wii u
I wonder what went wrong
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>>257794918

No, I'm done talking to you. Defending every single thing from Nintendo, including their biggest mistakes, is my line. You've lost all credibility.
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>>257794598
>Graphic mattering at all

yup and thats why the ps2 completely dominated that generation.
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>>257794997
First- I never said that PS4 was not the most powerful console- because it indeed is.
Second, I am not a Nintendo fan.
Third, you must be 18 to browse this site.
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>>257795257

Well, that's what Nintendo fans say regarding graphics.

>it doesn't matter if the PS2 had more games, it sucked, and the gamecube was better in every way!

Thats' what you say after all.
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>>257793968
People don't want to buy it because THEY DON'T KNOW IT EXISTS.
How is that so difficult to understand? How many consoles are bought by parents for their kids? How often do parents give a shit about keeping up with every little thing in gaming today? How often do you find people in a thread who either claim to be or claim to know someone who has had to make the distinction to a customer that the Wii-U is not a Wii? That last one was rhetorical. The answer is a lot, because there's no way you haven't seen those.
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>>257794997
>Pii Urine, twice
>Nintendildo
Are you twelve?, or do you write this with a straight face?
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The problem is, nobody gives half a fuck about nintendo games
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>>257794997
>Pii Urine
>Nintendildo

You need to be 18+ to browse 4chan.
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>>257795061
>responding to someone you shouldn't be responding to
No, it is you who lacks credibility, ACFag.
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>>257795416

The real problem is fanboys like you. You just can't accept that maybe some people don't like the Wii-U. You have to make up excuses about how the "EVIL GAMING INDUSTRY" wants to kill Nintendo, and that nobody else is suffering from corruption in gaming journalism. No, it's only poor Nintendo, and if you don't like them, you must somehow be an evil sonygger.

You expect me to take you seriously, let alone consider the Wii-u a good console, when you act like such a child in the face of people who don't agree with your views?
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>>257795683

I could say the same to you, Mr. "Other M wasn't a bad game."
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>>257795372
Who are you quoting? I have never said that and I think that the ps2 and snes are the best consoles of our times.

Stop being stupid anon.
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>>257794997
I think you need to go to bed, anon. Tomorrow's a school day.
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Only niggers use any form of the wii. fuck you faggot.
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>>257789259
I own one. I was right to not buy one sooner and foolish to have bought one at all. I knew that I would despise the gamepad. I thought I'd like the pro controller but I don't like that either. It has literally 1 game I want to play at the moment. Why do you guys shill this shit so hard?

>>257790976
>Based 40%
My favourite /v/ and /a/ tripfag
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>>257795836

>I think that the ps2 and snes are the best consoles of our times.

Well, you're a very small minority. Nintendo fans hate the PS1 and Ps2, because it's "evil sony trash".
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The people saying it's a lack of marketing are right.
I'm in the Netherlands and I haven't seen the damn thing ONCE on TV, let alone on posters in the street. If I ask a random stranger if he wants a Wii U he'd go "Wii U? isn't it Wii?". That's exactly how anyone not that active on the internet is responded with in my family and friends.
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>>257795061
>>257795061
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>>257796179

How can I trust you anon? I've already been lied to a hundred times ITT, including the lies that "PC has no games, Wii-u master race!".

Until you give me proof that you're not lying, I can't trust you.
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>>257796179
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>>257796179
all me

>yfw
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>>257796201
I'm a nintendrone and I love my PS2 and PS3
I don't think the PS2 is better than the gamecube, but the PS3 was better than the wii. Snes was best in its time on the merit of Super Metroid and other first party greats alone.
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I'm a full idort now and I'm still getting miffed at how the Wii U is getting shafted. It's fine if the PS4 is doing fine and all, but devs are publishing games for everything except the Wii U for varying reasons that usually hold little water. I'll have fun with my PC and Wii U regardless, but fuck. Don't tell me it isn't harsh for that thing to get the shaft.
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>>257796401
here you go>>257796482>>257796512
>>257796565
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>>257795686
I never said anything about any evil gaming industry that wants to kill Nintendo, and never in my entire time here since E3 have I ever seen a single post even remotely close to that.

"There are a lot of people who don't know that it exists because Nintendo has not done the requisite marketing to raise awareness" is not the same as saying "there aren't people who don't want it." There are always people who don't want a specific console - why the fuck do you think there's three of them? Why do you think they build different images or libraries?

I realize this may be difficult for you to understand, but not everyone who replies to your retardation are the same person. I haven't even read the whole comment chain, it's just especially obvious how dumb what you're saying is. I could just as easily turn your argument around and say

"The real problem is with hate bandwagoners like you. You just can't accept the fact that maybe the console you don't like isn't selling well because of bad marketing and not solely and only because there are people who don't want it. You have to make up excuses about how "THE DUMB NINTENDO DRONE ARMY" is willfully ignorant because lolnintendocandonowrong."

You're so fucking invested in this idea that Nintendo is doing poorly for this reason and this reason only that anyone who disagrees with you suddenly joins this imaginary mob of hardcore nintendrone faithfuls that are all saying the same thing. God forbid anyone should meet halfway.
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I know this is barely relevant, but think it's interesting in relation to console audience.

I asked a friend once why he has all three, he said "PS3 to entertain myself, 360 to entertain friends and Wii U to entertain family."

His family contains him and his sister (24 and 26), and his parents (early 60s). Most of his vidya friends are younger then him (17-22).

For the record he's also a huge weeb and buys some untranslated games for DS and the Hyperdemension games.
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>>257796872

And what assurance do I have that you didn't just photoshop that?

>>257796741

>I'm a nintendrone and I love my PS2 and PS3

Sorry, but because of the lies told earlier in the thread, I don't believe you.
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>>257795827
Oh, haha. Hahaha.
Oh, ACFag, how you crack me up. We've already had this little exchange, you and I.
Maybe you should get some new material?
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>>257793886
OP literally calls everyone an idiot for not realising "how good" the wii u is. Anytime someone who has played it points out that it's really not very good they get told that it's just their opinion
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>>257796741
I'm in the same boat as this guy.
I'm also at the point where I've found absolutely no value in the PS4 (not yet anyhow.), most of the games I've played are multiplats, and very often one of THOSE is the PS3 which (only does everything) is fucking LAST GEN.
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>>257796872
Don't even try. Literally every single fucking Nintendo thread he shits up he spouts the exact same "PROVE TO ME YOU'RE NOT LYING" shit and then goes "WHO'S TO SAY YOU DIDN'T SHOP IT?"

Gotten in too many arguments with him to not recognize his shit by now. Only reason I still humour him is because I enjoy his retardation.
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>>257789259
It's my fault that nintendo is selling last gen hardware at current gen prices AND has a culture designed for 10 year olds and pedophiles?
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didn't Nintendo completely ignored 3rd party companies during the Wii U development whilst Sony and Microsoft asked their opinions and sent dev kits?
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>>257796894

See, now you're making the same mistake you accuse me of. I never once spoke of Nintendo's marketing or how the Wii-U is doing. I've merely spoke my part in why I Don't like it. Your entire tl;dr post shoudl be directed at someone else.
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>>257797272
No, it's your fault that you're a scrapnockle.
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>>257796808
>devs are publishing games for everything except the Wii U for varying reasons that usually hold little water.

>Western AAA devs usually make high-performance games ported from PCs. They were struggling with the PS3/360 and they're glad to have the leeway of newer consoles.
>Japanese devs get more money from smartphones and handhelds than consoles.
>Nintendo home consoles have had shit 3rd party support since the N64, so now most people who buy Nintendo consoles only do it for Nintendo games.

Essentially, the Japanese devs don't care, the American devs don't care, and the few devs that do risk making a WiiU game usually get fucked over because most WiiU owners aren't nearly as patricians as /v/ and are only willing to buy the newest Mario.
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>>257793679
Pikmin, Other M, Mario Strikers, Mario Strikers Charged. Game and Wario

The list goes on
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>>257797025
see>>257794179

DOn't try and backtrack now.
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>>257797384
Yes. My bad. Your post had a couple elements I usually attribute to ACFag over in that corner, and perhaps I was replying to you both in a way there. Sorry to get you mixed up in my drama with him.
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>>257797540
>assuming it's the same person

The guy you think you're responding to is me. And I haven't written anything yet.
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>>257797012
NIGGA DO I HAVE TO TAKE A PICTURE!
I'M BOTH PEOPLE YOU REPLIED I'LL DO THE FUCKING SCREEN IF NEED BE YOU SKEPTIC SALLY
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>>257797540
hahaha
hohoho
heeheehee

Prove to me that wasn't you.
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>>257796808
They're ignoring it cause they're lazy. If they make Wii u games they gotta integrate the touch pad. It's easier to just change the controller input to xbone or ps4.
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>>257797496
>Pikmin
>Bad
Kill yourself
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>>257797714
>taking a picture to prove it
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>>257797827
>>257797714
BUT ANON
YOU COULD HAVE SHOPPED THE SHAKY PHOTO
No, seriously, stop replying to him. He's been at this for months, and he never changes. He is deliberately fucking with us because it works so goddamn well.
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>>257798014
>being this new
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>>257797714

Odd that you own a PS3 when you previously stated that sony shouldn't be supported at all and that they're evil cancerous mature gamers who are ruining the industry.

This image just raises more questions.
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The problem is that 3rd party publishers abandoned it.
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>>257796808
It isn't harsh. Why would anybody make games for a system people don't buy and the people that do buy it only buy Nintendo games for it. Activision tried, Ubisoft tried. That's 2 out of the big 3. Why should anybody bother?
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There are plenty of issues, like Nintendo still not properly advertising them outside of Nintendo Directs.
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>>257797814
It made me sad that I wasted money on that piece of shit but not sad enough to off myself
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>This thread
Who let the Dude out?
Or is it Acfag? I don't know.
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>>257789259
>money is not the problem
>omfg a mario hat really?
>fan favorites
>wow give me 2
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>>257798181
oh no we won't get to play assassins creed and collered dooters and madden and buggyfield 3.1 and 3.2 on it

what are we to do?
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>>257798094
Ok you are literally fucking baiting. I MADE THE DAMN QUOTES POST AND NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS THAT SHIT IN THEM. I feel as if I'm being played like a damn fiddle.
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>>257789259

I really want one, but I don't have a HDTV. the wii u pad looks cozy as fuck. is it worth buying if I don't have a HDTV yet?
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>>257798507
you can just play on the gamepad. Ain't in HD but it works fine.
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>>257798050
Years, whatever.

>>257798094
>ctrl + f "evil"
>devil
>all your posts
>me in reply to someone else

>ctrl + f "cancer"
>literally only your two posts

>ctrl + f "mature"
>only that post of yours I'm replying to

Where's your proof that other posts in this thread have said anything of the sort? Do me a favour and link me to them. Go on, do it.
If anything that picture would prove to you that it is not impossible for a Nintendo fan to own other consoles, but hey maybe he photoshopped it in because we're all liars apparently guys did you hear every single nintendo fan loves other m and hates from software and it's literally impossible for any nintendo fan to own a ps3 because they're all a huge paranoid hivemind that calls everyone a sonygger if they don't like their console prove it to me that you're not these 50 other people who don't exist in the thread saying these things that never happened ever PROVE TO ME YOU DIDN'T SHOP IT

The schtick's old, ACFag. It's old, it's stale, and frankly it's predictable now.
Take a week off and come up with some new material.
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>>257798507
That blows about the HDTV, maybe find one on sale?
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>>257798356
>Wasting money
>On pikmin
Choose none, besides, which one did you played 1,2,3?
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>>257798507
Get an HDTV. What are you? Homeless?
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>>257798795
HUP-A-DABO

SMOOOOOOOO VOPRRRATUS
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>>257798496
It isn't like I told you 3 times or anything.
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>>257798094
for the record I'm >>257798496
not >>257798795
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OP, fuck off with these threads that are borderline shill.

You make Nintendrones look almost as bad as Sonyggers.
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>>257798842
1
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>>257789589
started at $350

now it's $200 refurb
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>>257798864
That's new material, I'll admit.

>>257798970
No, anon. We're all the same person to him, or so he makes himself out to be.

>>257798418
I'm actually not familiar with Dude. What's he like?
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>>257798983
They're so much worse. They have done this for fucking months. And I am sure I am not the only one who bought into their faggotry. I don't know where their zeal comes from but the wii u isn't good enough to warrant it
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>>257798847

nah, just always behind on technology. I plan on getting one soon. mostly just play old games on my CRTV, and watch movies and tv on my laptop so I never really had a reason to get one.
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>>257798987
>Hating on 1
I would understand 3, besides, did you got all 30 parts?
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>>257790871
>Tell me what I miss by sticking to my PC
good games
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>>257799174
He's a bald sex genie. But any time somebody is critical of Wii U it is blamed on thedude. He is a boogieman at this point
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>>257799189
Yes, because we're totally all one big huge group in constant contact and collusion with each other.
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>>257799229
Yes. I had 4 games on my GC when I got it
>>257799378
With the IRC that's not as crazy an idea as you think
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>>257798496
>>257798795

The reason I don't believe either of you: the thread started out with Nintendo fans calling people sonyggers and Microshills if they didn't like the Wii-U. First post here: >>257789831

Notice how the guy he's replying to isn't even mentioning Sony or MS, let alone in a good light. Yet he has to rush in and say "WELL THEY'RE NOT DOING GOOD EITHER, STOP HATING NINTENDO!"

Then we get a post like this >>257789963 which just screams "I hate the Ps4, but I want their games" something which you guys made fun of sony fans for when they asked for Bayo 2.

Next up we get a post like this >>257790654 which implies that the poster replied to mentioned Sony, and not to mention the hate my first post got, which was here >>257790871

I'm basically called an "Entitled sonygger" despite never once saying I wanted a Ps4.

SO YES, I blame all of you for these posts. Take some responsibility.
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>>257799332
Nigga I love the Wii-U and even I'm critical of it at times. Go over to /wug/ in /vg/ and ask them what their 3 or 4 least favourite things about the Wii-U are.

>>257799475
I keep fucking hearing about this trolling group that meets in IRC just to fuck with everyone on all sides. I can't tell if it's just an urban myth or what.
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>>257799475

So tell me why we're not allowed to dislike the Wii-U?
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>>257799475
Then I'm sorry you couldn't like Pikmin, I would reccommend 2 but ok
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>>257799643
The IRC is real
>>257799678
I post in Wii U threads because I dislike it. What makes me think I want to stop you from disliking it?

>>257799965
Why would I get a sequel to a game I didn't like. Especially when it is the kind of sequel that changes nothing
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>>257793679
Not at all. Paper Mario Sticker Star is on par or worse than DA2 when it comes to fucking terrible sequels that ruin a series.

Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are shit, mario golf is shit, other m is shit, etc.


Nintendo has made bad games, but it happens way less often than with other companies. They also make GOOD games, and you fucking rarely see those anywhere else. Besides a handful of exceptions, the most any other company can aim for is "mediocre"
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>>257800204

>>257799678 here. I think I might've quoted the wrong person. I apologize.
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>>257800204
>It actually changes various things, such as the day limit, pikmin types, command of players and environments, then again, I won't tell you to play it as you seem close minded
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I love the Wii U and bought it at midnight launch. Having said that 1080p60fps should be standard in 2014. Thats a negative but positively, at least when Nintendo says 60fps it actually is locked at that framerate.

The launch was only just OK. Nintendo Land was fun getting drunk with mates. I personally really liked Zombi U despite it being rough around the edges. Everything else was a bit meh and the drought was terrible.

The controller doesnt have enough range for streaming.

I had constant issues with connecting via wifi and had to get a network adapter.

Plenty to criticize about the Wii U. Its still the only current gen console worth owning with the best library of games and a good compliment to PC.
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>>257800204
>Especially when it is the kind of sequel that changes nothing


not true.
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>>257800395

>Besides a handful of exceptions, the most any other company can aim for is "mediocre"

And this is why I think you're biased. You refuse to look outside of your bubble, and if I listed a non-Nintendo game I thought was good, you would shoot it down as "sonygger shit".
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>The problem is idiots who don't realize how amazing the Wii U is.

I have a wii u and it isn't good. I don't really know or care if I'm an idiot because I "can't comprehend the fun" or whatever, but it just isn't.
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All your arguments would be relevant OP, if only Ninty had released the WiiU 6 years ago
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>>257799550

>sonygger
>>257795686 is the first post to use that word, not even halfway, and only to accuse others of saying it when nobody had.

>one guy being an idiot
>clearly everyone is an idiot, surely

Literally only your post is using the word microshill.

And now you're laughing at him for wanting some other console's games. You're not exactly making either of the other fanboy crowds look good, you know, especially when it's the same shit every thread. "I don't believe you, I don't believe you, respond to my irrational pennypinching bait so I can treat every single one of you like you're all the same person."

Not a single person has called you an entitled sonygger, unless you truly are so deluded (I doubt it, I'm just humouring your bullshit at this point) to believe that any disagreement implicitly says two dozen other unflattering things.

You're going to have a hard time ever getting anyone to take responsibility for something they've never said. Jesus may do it, but other, less stupid people won't. Not now, not ever. Not that I expect you to understand this if you haven't figured it out after months of baiting, trolling and shitposting.
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>>257800771
What games do you have anon?
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>>257800468
When I say change I mean like the amount of change between Mystical Ninja and its sequel on N64. Like the level of change between Super Mario World and Mario 64. Like the level of change between GTA2 and GTA3. Change where the game at its core changes. Pikmin is still basically the same. You gather pikmin. You use them to gather those things you get from flowers to get more pikmin then you kill enemies and open paths to parts then send those parts back being wary of enemies
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>>257794598
Well gee I dunno. The gamecube sold like complete shit, and the Wii fucking destroyed the entire generation. Wonder which one is better for them as a company
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>>257800838
Are you implying the PS4 and XBO have relevant technology?
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>>257789259
I got a ps4 and a xbone and it does nothing but collect dust I got a nintendo wii u recently an dim loving it i actually have games to play on it
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>>257795454
typical sony fan. They have to shitpost, it's the only "game" they have left
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>>257801043
If PSBone don't have relevant technology then the wii u belongs in a fucking museum
>>257801150
Cool story bro
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>>257801001
Well yeah, the game is designed to be relaxed and chill, if you want a complete change of formula then you wouldn't be playing pikmin anymore, then again, you disliked it, I'm not entirely sure why you are still discussing it
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>>257801260
so mad, he's so mad
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>>257801201
Go Williams yourself, Microshill.
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Wii U has had a really awful lineup of games.

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to buy it. Nintendo has been reusing the same shit for their games since the 90s.

Now that they are showcasing new IPs I think people are becoming more interested.

Also that gamepad controller was a terrible idea.
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>>257789259
>mfw I have a Wii U and retards keep hyping it up way beyond how good it actually is

It's a good console and I've had ~300 hours of fun with it, but it's not nearly as good as /v/'s bastion of Nintoodlers makes it out to be.

It's above the PS4 and Xbone for sure, but still pretty barren unless you like absolutely every single possible Nintendo franchise ever.

Also, the two heavy hitters aren't even out yet: Bayo 2 and X.
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>>257801298
Because someone said "I recommend Pikmin 2" to which I said why would I get a sequel for a game I didn't like when it's the kind of sequel that changes nothing. You took it to be me saying it literally changes nothing when what I meant was it does not make the kind of massive changes on the scale of the examples I gave to be different enough that people who didn't like its predecessor may like it
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>>257800914

>is the first post to use that word, not even halfway, and only to accuse others of saying it when nobody had.

Don't even lie. The word is used non-stop on /v/ every single moment of the day, and you use it against people who don't even support sony products half the time. It's become the catch-all scapegoat when you want to defend your precious Nintendo.Not once has a discussion of Nintendo gone down without someone saying "yeah we're so much beter than those stupid sony fans who like shooters" and then when someone brings up a game they like that isn't on a Nintendo system, it's shitposted to hell and back. So please, put down the victim card and accept some responsibility.

>one guy being an idiot

Yes, of course. The ten or so people I quoted are one person. Sure.

>And now you're laughing at him for wanting some other console's games.

Because isn't this a deplorable act? Remember when people asked for Bayo 2 on the Ps4? You laughed at them, so I assumed it was a stupid thing to want. Yet here he is, wanting Bloodborne on the Wii-U, and everyone gives him a round of applause. You don't see the double standard there?

>Not a single person has called you an entitled sonygger,

Then explain why hundreds of posters brought up sony even when not prompted to.

>You're going to have a hard time ever getting anyone to take responsibility for something they've never said.

oh really? The years of people saying "Ps1 and Ps2 have no games, sony a shit" never happened? Is that what you're saying?

Look, I don't mind Wii-U threads where you guys go to discuss your games and what you're hyped for. What I don't like is these threads where you only go in to circlejerk about how you're somehow more "enlightened" then the dumb sheeple masses that you berate and laugh at every other thread. That should be a bannable offense.
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>>257801260
They dont have relevant technology. No consoles do so you might as well just pick your poison if you are going to play on console.

Also unrelated but fuck Sony and their pateonising for the gamers/this is for the players bullshit. Its the worst most cringe inducing marketing I have seen in years and is transparent as all fuck.
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>>257801871
Actually it's "For the players" it's actually a really clever marketing campaign. It keeps the brand in mind (PLAYstation). It tries to make the corporation the customer's friend. And it plays off the successful "we're not microsoft therefore we tenderly make love to your anus and don't take you roughly" thing that they've had going for them since e3 2013. I especially like that they don't use "gamer"
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>>257801871

>Also unrelated but fuck Sony and their pateonising for the gamers/this is for the players bullshit.

Funny you say this when you're guilty of the exact same thing.

>the wii-u is for the gamers! we're much better than those stupid ignorant COD fanboys XD!

Then you get angry when someone disagrees with you.
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>>257801794
>litterally
Do you even know english?, besides as I told you, If you made a total change of formula you wouldn't be playing Pikmin anymore
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>>257797496

5 bad games in 30 years of history,

two of which are the same game,

one made by another company,

one "bad" because the game didn't fit to your personal taste

And one game that was an assortment of minigames ment to show off the hardware's gimmicks.

Now now anon you can do better than that.
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>>257800554
im not going to shit on games I havent played unless it's abundantly clear that there are serious issues with it, like DA:I or knack.

I play more than just Nintendo games, but I am more often than not disappointed by them.

Though when a nintendo game is shit, it stings much harder. I've never hated any video game more than I've hated Sticker Star.
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>>257802345

It's not the amount of games, it's that you refuse to consider them bad. Not a single Nintendo fan hates Metroid: Other M, for instance. Anyone who says otherwise is lying and probably bought a copy to support it.
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>>257802392

>im not going to shit on games I havent played

And yet here you are doing it right now by saying no other company makes good games.
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Exactly, the problem is not nintendo. The problem is the idiotic hivemind behind their business model.

Nintendo does good stuff but they are not getting support by 3rd party devs and that's what it needs the most right now.
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>>257789259
>blaming the consumer for products they don't want

get a grip nintenbabby
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>>257802818
So what's this bundle with 2 games and 2 controllers?
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>>257799550
>sonyggers this delusion people people like games

please leave and go to NeoGAF
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>>257802278
You, my dear anon are fucking retarded.
Firstly I spell literally correctly and you couldn't even copy what I wrote correctly.
Secondly, you somehow managed to completely miss my point. The fact that they don't turn the formula on its head is not a criticism of the sequels. However, it serves as an explanation of why telling me to get the sequel is stupid. If I don't like tangerines I probably won't like oranges.
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>>257803174
something that i, and other many people do not want.
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>>257802508
>Not a single Nintendo fan hates Metroid: Other M
Why do people keep bringing this shit? werent you here when it was released? nobody likes this piece of shit. Where do you take your information from?

>Anyone who says otherwise is lying
Oh. I guess your argument is irrefutable then.
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>>257789259
>it doesn't have mature games for mature gamers
seriously fuck the term gamer(s) Nintendo should use the term "fun" in there commercials
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>>257802508
>Not a single Nintendo fan hates Metroid: Other M,
stop shit posting that game was hated by Metroid fans
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>>257803190

and how can I be sure those aren't your posts? You DO realize that if you close your browser, clear your cookies, and then re-enter the thread, the "(you)" is removed entirely from earlier? And I wouldn't put it past you to do that. I've been lied to multiple times ITT.
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>>257789452
>I didn't even want it!
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>>257803405
>>257803314

Yes, as pic related shows, Nintendo fans hate Other M.

.... oh wait.
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>>257803425
please go back to GAF you clearly need a site with usernames and circlejerking to please you.
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>>257803602

But anon, to go to neogaf I have to love sony, and as I've made crystal clear, that's not the case.

*scratches head* why do you keep accusing me of being a sony lover?
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>>257802686
I said apart from a few exceptions, most of the games I play from other companies are mediocre.

There are also exceptions to nintendo games being good, as I already said there are several I can think of that are shit
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>>257803562
grats, that is literally giant bomb tier
http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/bigbob/blog/cover-an-eye-and-pretend-metroid-prime-never-happe/60758/
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>>257789259
just wait for smash and the new zelda game.

Thats the sort of thing that people are waiting for, a big first party flagship title like that to have an excuse to buy it then dig into the rest of the platform.
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>>257803602
This website is the worse place for circlejerking. MMMMM smash, awww yeah mario
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How to sell me a Nintendo console.

-Get a name that isn't embarassing
-Get rid of the Miiverse shit
-Get rid of gimmick shit and just give me a classic controller - Motion control and tablets are worthless for me
-Release games that i care about: Decent Metroid, Decent Zelda, F-Zero, Star Fox, Non-shitty Mario rehash
-Drop the regionlock

After that i will happily go to the next store and buy one. Not earlier.
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No games that offer me an experience I haven't already gotten on my PC or a previous console.

Fuck I have like 400 steam games I haven't even played, I'm still working through my PS3 collection, have the entire Wii library to play through...

In general, just never buy a console until the next generation comes out. If you must, buy games you want when they are cheap in case they become hard to find later, but there is no reason not to wait till all the revisions and other bullshit get taken care of. It gives you time to play the games and you get the best product for the lowest price. Its win win win.
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>>257803771
fucking leave and never come back faggot your kind is ruining /v/
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>>257789259
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>>257803828

>the comments are calling the staff sexist and apologizing for Nintendo

Wow, way to prove my point.
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>How to sell me a console

Release Pikmin games.
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>>257802508
>Not a single Nintendo fan hates Metroid: Other M
hahaha what? Seriously, what?

Fucking everyone hated other M.

>Metroid fans hated other m
>zelda fans hated skyward sword
>a lot of mario fans hate galaxy
>fucking everyone hates Sticker Star

Yeah sure, everyone mindlessly defends nintendo games alright.
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>>257790718
So all people want are multiplats. They don't want anything from first parties.

Makes sense, PS4 has one of, if not the, lowest attach rates of any console ever despite being the fastest selling in history. Sony says they sold 30 million units of software as of last week or so, counting digital sales, while Nintendo says they've sold over 36 million software units as of May (before Mario Kart.) Wii U might be selling less, but people are actually buying games for it.
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>>257804117
AGAIN
GIANT
BOMB

are you this dense
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>>257797496
>Pikmen
>Bad

I think you should leave before you start something anon.
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>>257803819

>I said apart from a few exceptions, most of the games I play from other companies are mediocre.

And again you show how you refuse to look outside your bubble and find good games. You like to pretend that nothing else is good and that only Nintendo is capable of making good games.

There are no "Exceptions". If you actually bothered looking, you'd find a wide array of great games.
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>>257804328
Come at me bro. Your favourite game is shit. I said it. What you gonna do about it. That's what I thought
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>>257797496

>Pikmin
>Bad

Nigga, stop.
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>>257804152
Pikmin 3 is actually really good so I hope you've played it.
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If you say console of choice + PC master race you're just trying to fit in
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>>257804271

Which proved my point. Anytime the rare non-Nintendo fan called out Other M for being bad, they were hated on and accused of being a "mature gamer who can't comprehend emotion." Or have you not seen Moviebob's review of the game?

>>257804192

>Metroid fans hated other m
Incorrect. Metroid fans wanted a waifu to masturbate over. Other M gave them Samus in her zero suit the entire game, with high heels. They all loved it.

>zelda fans hated skyward sword
Also incorrect. Anyone who says they dislike it is called a mature gamer or a nostalgiababy.

>a lot of mario fans hate galaxy
Doesn't stop them flaunting around the metacritic score like it's fact.

>fucking everyone hates Sticker Star
A game miyamoto supervised? Getting hate? HA! and you call me delusional.
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>>257789259
>The problem is idiots who don't realize how amazing the Wii U is.
then it's Nintendo's problem, more precisely their marketing departments problem.
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>>257804623

Fuck yeah I play it.
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>Wii U
>amazing

>last gen hardware
>rehashed titles
>80% of the game library is side-scrollers
>no announcements at gamecon
>banking everything on yet another Zelda game that will come out in two years if we're lucky

it's shit, m8
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>>257804796
Good man
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>>257789259
>The problem is idiots who don't realize how amazing the Wii U is.

Yep, it's the consumer's fault for not wanting something.
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>>257789259
>waahhhh why aren't more people buying muh favorite console they should be forced to buy muh favorite console it's not fair :(
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>>257789259
Fuck off shill. Everyone's tired of Nintendo's shit which is why no one wants to buy the Pii U.

Go and die.
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I own a damned Wii U and even I find these threads disgusting. Fuck off you faggots, discriminating between vidya is for edgy teens.
√Čnjoy video games.
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>>257804328
He already started shit, saying that it was shit with no reasons given actually, and implying Pikmin 2 was the same, so yeah, don't reply
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The only way I'm buying a Wii U is if on black friday they have a good bundle that includes the real battery for the pad, cheap as shit, and a game or 2 that I would like.

Also gotta ask, is every game able to be played on the pad?
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>>257803942
>Get a name that isn't embarassing
Who cares what its called, you're buying it to play games. Not like "Console [Insert number here]" is any more creative.
>Get rid of the Miiverse shit
I also think its stupid, but its also completely ignorable. I've never once used it.
>Get rid of gimmick shit and just give me a classic controller - Motion control and tablets are worthless for me
You can already do that, I can only think of a couple games that require the gamepad. And the tablet is a regular controller with a screen in the middle. It has all the same buttons.
>Release games that i care about: Decent Metroid, Decent Zelda, F-Zero, Star Fox, Non-shitty Mario rehash
Zelda is coming, and if you don't think it at least looks a little promising then I'd argue you probably wouldn't be pleased by anything they'd realistically come up with. Star Fox is coming, and 3D World was fun if you've actually played it. We also know they're working on another "real" Mario game that's not related to NSMB, so likely another 3D Mario like Galaxy, Sunshine or 64.
>Drop the regionlock
Legitimate complaint, but in all honesty, would you actually import anything? And if so, what? I know there's a few things on the 3DS that are actually worth importing, but I can't think of anything on the Wii U.
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>>257804907
>80%
Show numbers or get>>>/out/
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>>257805291

>region lock is a legitimate complaint, but you're being a baby and should stop hating it! Nintendo knows what's good for you

Wow, easy there bro. I don't think Nintendo is paying you enough.
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>>257804192
>a lot of mario fans hate galaxy

I think that's overstating it a little bit, I know it's a lot more linear than games like Sunshine & SM64 but SMG2 at the least was still great and I still thought SMG1 was good even though it had some flaws like fucking shit purple coin stars.
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>>257802267
Where did I say that.

Im also not a corporation.
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>>257803425
If you know how to do that and talk about it, then you obviously don't belong here.
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>>257797496
>Pikmin, Other M, Mario Strikers, Mario Strikers Charged. Game and Wario

>The list goes on

>>257802508
>It's not the amount of games

So if the amount of games does not matter, than why does it matter if the list goes on?
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>>257805757
There's more than one poster in this thread
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>>257805484
>I don't like region lock
>What would you import then?
>WOW, EASY BRO, ARE THEY PAYING U ENUFF?
It was a simple enough question. What would you import if it was possible? Again, I know there's a few things on the 3DS worth importing, but what's missing on the Wii U that would be worth importing?
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>>257805757

I'm a different poster. I don't care about how many bad games Nintendo makes, it's that they never try to fix the mistakes of those bad games. They'll never admit Other M was bad, for example, and the next two metroid games will just be Other M sequels. The only reason they said they would be "prime like" is to bait people into buying them. They did the same thing with Sticker Star, Starfox Adventures, Yoshi's New Island, and Super Paper Mario.

Hell, it's how they got people to buy Other M in the first place. Remember the term "IT'S THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO SUPER METROID!"?
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>Backwards compatible
>Only current gen console with gaems.
>Only current gen console with gaems coming
>Dat controller
>Dat Miiverse.

I really can't comprehend how you fags don't own one of these yet.
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>>257805898
AH! but he was defending his point!
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Look at the sales.
Nintendo home system sales have been declining for a while.

Only the Wii was a special case because families/women loved the shit. The Wii U doesn't have the Wii appeal and so it will get meh sales like the Gamecube and it most likely won't change with the next console no matter what Nintendo does.

The Wii was just trendy for a while. Just like 3D as a feature.
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>>257805949

Anything I say you'll just call it stupid or claim I'm a weeaboo for liking it. Plus, I didn't care much for the way you just completely discarded his complaint and accused him of being a fanboy for another company.
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>>257805291
>Zelda Wii U was the last hope of me getting a Wii U
>Never watched the trailer
>Just did
>Reminds me of Skyward Sword
Dropped.
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>>257804702
YOU INSULT ME. YOU INSULT MY WAIFU. YOU INSULT NINTENDO WITH YOUR SHITTY OPINIONS.

GET THE FUCK OUT
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET THIS FAGGOT BANNED?! HE DOES NOT BELONG HERE.

IM DONE WITH THIS THREAD, I'M GOING TO PLAY SUPER METROID ON MY WII U JUST TO SPITE YOU.
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>>257805949
>Wii U
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>>257806296
You're aware that the Wii won the last gen, right?
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>>257806365
your waifu is a slut
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>>257806360
>Skward sword had all that shit, open world, non linearity
Besides you just watched a trailer, you still have to watch gameplay
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>>257806273
If someone else defends my point you can't hold to everything the person they are defending says
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>>257806417
You mean in sales right?
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>>257806210
>>Backwards compatible
Nice.
>>Only current gen console with gaems.
>>Only current gen console with gaems coming
Shit games and rehashes (W101 looks neat though)
>>Dat controller
is the worst thing about it. No one wants to play with that thing.
>>Dat Miiverse.
Pointless.
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>>257806210

>PC is better
>PC games trump it
>PC has more coming
>keyboard trumps it
>Miiverse is neogaf lite

No thank you.
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They should lower the price significantly more, the console is outdated, underpowered and overpriced for what it is.

A bundle for a console no one is interested in and a game nobody is interested in playing.

A solid presentation announcing the usual crappy rehashes

Of course it has free multiplayer because out of all the games in its library only two are compatible.
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>>257806365

>Samus
>waifu

yeah, because why should she be in a good video game? She should be in more cinematic games with cutscenes, because why have good gameplay?

>Nintendo fans
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>>257806631
>No one wants to play with that thing.
Have you even touched it?
>Shit games and rehashes
I agree some are, but there are some really good games on the console
Zombi U
Mario Kart
The Dong
Pikmin 3
etc.
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>>257806326
>Anything I say you'll just call it stupid or claim I'm a weeaboo for liking it.
It was a genuine question, I wasn't being hostile. Why are you being so insanely defensive?
>Plus, I didn't care much for the way you just completely discarded his complaint and accused him of being a fanboy for another company.
What?
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>>257806585
It looks disgusting
>Cell Shaded Graphics
The world looks even more bland than Skyward Sword in the trailer.
Having a good "colorful" world does not mean make everything green.
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>>257804250
To me this just means that Sony and MS succeeded in marketing their consoles as home theater devices.
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>>257807037

>It was a genuine question

Okay, then I'll give you a genuine answer from an earlier console which also shared this same sin of refusing to bring over games: Mother 3.

Go on, tell me I'm a weeaboo for wanting that imported. Tell me I'm a sonygger because I don't approve of Nintendo's regional policies. I'd love to hear it, along with any excuse you have to try and paint me as an evil mature gamer. I'm sure you have a fresh excuse ready from your trolling trough.
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>>257806958
Not that guy but I have touched it and both the controllers are fucking shitty. Shit stick placement, digital buttons all of the fucking day. Then the gamepad is so fucking big and the shoulder buttons are so badly placed.

Did you really list Zombi U as a good game. Do you really think Sidescrolling platformers are system sellers. Do you really think games in a bastardised genre are worth a damn?
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>>257807432

I know the feeling, but I hope you're ready to be called a sonygger because you didn't like the controller. Trust me, it's happened twice to me.

http://archive.vidya.moe/v/thread/246927625
http://archive.vidya.moe/v/thread/252719419
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>>257806845
>>257806631
>rehashes

>11 CoD games in 10 years
>11 AssCreed games in 7 years
>12 Ratchet & Clank games in 10 years
>8 God of War games in 8 years
>5 Uncharted games in 6 years
>6 Gears of War games in 8 years

Compared to
>8 Mario Kart games in 22 years
>5 Smash Bros. games in 15 years
>4 NSMB games in 8 years
>6 3D Mario games in 18 years
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>>257806958
>Have you even touched it?
I have. My neighbor's daughter has one. It feels awful and the screen is pointless. Should have just went with a normal controller.

>Zombi U
>Mario Kart
>The Dong
>Pikmin 3
These games look good to you because you have particular tastes and appreciation for Nintendo crap, but the average console gamer isn't interested in any of this. Not to mention they likely haven't even heard of half of those titles because of poor advertisement. If I didn't sit here on /v/ everyday, I probably wouldn't know what any of those games are either (except Mario).
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>>257807717
I welcome it. When ever they do it I post a picture of my big dick next to my tower and current gen of consolesq
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>>257807813
the thing is though the above games aren't the only games the PS4/Xbone/PC have where as Nintendo's rehashes due to the lack of third party are all there is to play.
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>>257807813
The difference is, those aren't the ONLY games coming out on those consoles.
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>>257793476
You know it's about the aesthetics. Colors and cartoony graphics aren't mature enough. They're insecure and think people will call them manchildren for liking colorful games that are also enjoyed by children.
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>>257807410
>Go on, tell me I'm a weeaboo for wanting that imported. Tell me I'm a sonygger because I don't approve of Nintendo's regional policies. I'd love to hear it, along with any excuse you have to try and paint me as an evil mature gamer. I'm sure you have a fresh excuse ready from your trolling trough.

>yfw typing this

Wow, calm down. I just asked what games you'd actually import for the Wii U.
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nah, people outside Nintendo hates the console, not the games because it's not like their superpowered PCs. They want Nintendo to go third-party so they play Twilight Princess HD and Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 Remastered on PS4 and PC.
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>>257807813

>terrible non-Nintendo rehashes

Compared to

>terrible Nintendo rehashes

I don't see the difference, aside from time of release.
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>>257789259
>the games I want are clearly what everyone else should want
I bought a Wii U at launch and have been disappointed pretty much ever since. Not a single game is a must own or even must play. At best a few are pretty good but even those are short.

The only game I'm holding out for now is X. Zelda is so far off it might as well be unannounced. If X is shit I'm dumping this useless fucking toy on some kid.
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>>257808095

>Colors and cartoony graphics aren't mature enough

Is this really coming from the Nintendo fanbase, who will gladly call a game childish baby crap if it's cartoonish, but is isn't on the Wii-U?

>mfw Nintendo fans say TF2 sucks because it isn't "realistic enough"
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>>257807925
>It feels awful and the screen is pointless
Fine if you don't like it, but it's not pointless just because you don't like it.
>These games interest you because you have shit taste, other people don't have shit taste.
You sound pretty preachy and opinionated.
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>>257808489
Did you play W101?
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>>257803602
>>257803771
>>257803905
>forgetting NeoGAF are jealous boogeyman of 4chan and also tried to make a card to Nintendo for attention.
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>>257808129

I told you what game I wanted: Mother 3. I want them to at least port it to the eshop, or maybe the eshop on the 3DS. I don't care.

But it took them 25 years for Earthbound to come over, and I doubt we'll ever see the sequel.
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>>257808147

>playing Metroid: Other M on my PC

Eww, how about no? I didn't even want it on the Wii.
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>>257808725
Mother 3 is an RPG on the GBA, which is kinda pointless unless you can read japanese. Further more GBA is region free, making the point moot.
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>>257808556
>Is this really coming from the Nintendo fanbase, who will gladly call a game childish baby crap if it's cartoonish, but is isn't on the Wii-U?
I think those are shitposters, I don't have a problem with a game aesthetics unless they have a heavy impact on the gameplay
>>mfw Nintendo fans say TF2 sucks because it isn't "realistic enough"
I have never seen this so I can't comment
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>>257808407
So why is it only bad when Nintendo does it but everyone else gets a pass?

And I don't see how having a Mario Kart game every 3-4 years for two decades on a different platform every time is in any way comparable to getting one or more Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty games every year for a decade.
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>>257808615

Didn't like it in the slightest.
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>>257808564
I didn't say you had shit taste. I said you had a particular appreciation for games of that sort. Cartoony sidescrollers and Mario games (which are just older Mario games in HD) just aren't what people are interested in these days. Games like that do not sell consoles.

As for the controller, I guess that is just a matter of my opinion since the little girl seems to have no problem with it.
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>>257808895

It still validates my point. Nintendo refuses to bring over games, and now that they region lock, we won't get them anymore. Also, as a previous anon mentioned, because of their dumb police we won't get SMT4.
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>>257808975
like me and >>257808058 said

the reason it isn't comparable is because that is all the Wii U gets where as the PS4/Xbone/PC have a far wider variety of games.
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>>257808895
Can't you also hack the Wii menu on a Wii U and emulate it for free?
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>>257808975
Because other games come out on those consoles. Their success does not ride on the back of rehashes.
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>>257809150
Because it's all that they do
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>>257808556
>>mfw Nintendo fans say TF2 sucks because it isn't "realistic enough"
[citation needed]

>>>/r/pcmasterrace
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>>257808932

>I have never seen this so I can't comment

Then you're ignoring all of reality. As much as Nintendo fans like to claim to be Wii-U + PC idorts, they have never said anything positive about PC gaming. They like to stab their PC gaming brothers in the back at every opportunity.
>>
They're not idiots, they're FUCKING CHILDREN.
AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA THAT THIS SYSTEM EVEN EXISTS BECAUSE THEY CALLED IT THE WiiU and not Wii2
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>>257808975

>So why is it only bad when Nintendo does it but everyone else gets a pass?

When did I ever say they get a pass? I don't buy the new Assassin's Creed or Forza or Uncharted.
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>>257809223
>Their success does not ride on the back of rehashes.

>Best-selling games are yearly Battlefield, Call of Duty and Sports games
>Two of PS4's three exclusives are sequels in a franchise with at least 4 games
>Xbone's only big exclusive this year is a collection of Xbox and 360 games
Factually incorrect.
>>257809174
>Skeleton !!EHGR7reEaDk
lol
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>>257809309
Well I said I can't comment because I seriously go out Inb4 normalfag, but I agree each machine has it's fair share of gems, and PC has a shitton, my only problem with it is that it has a shitton of shovelware, PC gaming is a blast
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>>257809631
but those rehashes aren't the only games they get

ffs get it into your thick skull
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>>257789259
>The problem is not Nintendo.
>The problem is idiots who don't realize how amazing the Wii U is.

I pray you don't get into big business OP, because the "I'M RIGHT AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU'RE AN IDIOT" plan won't get you very far.
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>>257808725
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>>257809584
But those games don't get anywhere near the amount of backlash for being rehashes. Sure they get some, but its not the bulk of what is said about them. And those games often have less improvement/refinement between iterations than Nintendo's games.
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>>257809780

>le edgy robot chicken sketch

Whoa, watch that fedora bro.
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>>257808556
>>>mfw Nintendo fans say TF2 sucks because it isn't "realistic enough"

You mean the same fanbase that is extremely hyped for Splatoon? Which is like the most unrealistic shooter ever.
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>>257809948
youre a fucking retard
>hurr durr fedora
>hurr durr edgy

are you serious man? just call him a faggot like everyone else you fucking nigger
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>>257809723
>thick skull
>Skeleton
lol I get it
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>>257809928

>but those games don't get anywhere near the amount of backlash for being rehashes.

Wrong. Maybe the gaming journalists don't lambast them, but I'm right there hating them when they refuse to innovate and instead just cash in on the previous installment. I do NOT give them a pass, and I do not give them my money either. Nintendo doesn't get any slack either.
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>>257809948
>Liking Robot Chicken
>Fedora
>Not just poor taste
I still like the show
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>>257809968

It's on a Nintendo system, which is why they like it.
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>>257806631
I don't get why you fags hate the controller though. Sure it's big, but it's not heavy or uncomfortable in any way at all. What gripes from a utilitarian standpoint do you have?
>>
Now let us remember what they did the seven years before this

>completely ignored their core base
>made like 5 fucking good games
>had a console that was two gamecubes stuck together with silly putty
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>>257809948
Die pls robot chicken is awesome

Maybe you're too young to appreciate it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcV0bK1UwCg
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>>257810098
>I'm right there hating them when they refuse to innovate and instead just cash in on the previous installment
You are, but most people aren't.

Most people who are buying video games (let's be realistic here, casuals outnumber people with taste 10:1) are excited for games like AssCreed and CoD. All they see is the mainstream scolding Nintendo for not innovating and praising western studios for making the next Citizen Kane. So that's what most people are going to think and parrot back. TLOU: Remastered is simply a better version of a masterpiece, but something like NSMBU is a shameless cash-grab.
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>>257810529
It's uncomfortably large, it ignores established conventions with regards to stick placement and shoulder button placement
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>>257810637

Yes, funny humor about adult themes in non-adult shows. Haha, hilarious! We're right up there with Egoraptor and Hotdiggety demon.
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>>257810721
TLOU is a bad game for idiots

NSMBU is actually difficult in some areas and has decades of level design philosophy packed in to it. It just has a re-used aesthetic.
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>>257810572
>completely ignored their core base
The Wii had just as many, if not more, good 1st and 3rd-party games as the Gamecube. You just didn't play any of them. The GC is probably my favorite Nintendo console, but it had shit for games beyond the core Nintendo titles (of which there weren't any more than usual) and a handful of 3rd-party games, most of which were also on PS2.
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>>257810768
Nah, you're just looking for reasons not to like it.
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>>257810789
Actually it's not the adult themes. It's the fact that it panders hard (or at least it used to) to people who grew up in the late 80s/early 90s and thus those people tend to like it more
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>>257790976
>Shadow of the Eternals
Holy shit I completely forgot about that game.
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>>257810721

>Most people who are buying video games are excited for games like AssCreed and CoD

And why are you any better? You're guilty of the same thing, except with Mario Kart and Mario party. And no, no matter what you list about them, it doesn't make them any better than Asscreed or COD. You're just biased.
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>>257811012
Oh I agree, NSMBU is one of the better side-scrolling Marios.

NSMB2 on 3DS was a pointless cash-grab though, that game really didn't need to exist and was piss-easy.
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>>257789406
givng the general cry out for Nintendo to go 3rd party, they are, just got brainwashed that Nintendo hardware dont deserve their money
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>>257811046
Why would I look for reasons to dislike something I spent my money on
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>>257811220

Because if you dont like Nintendo you hate fun and probably love Call of Duty. They've never once made a single bad game or poor hardware decision. You're just being entitled by looking for things to hate.
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>>257811012
TLoU has great characters, great story, great atmosphere, decent combat, and fun multiplayer.

NSMBU has practically no character interaction, a weak storyline, no atmosphere, and decent gameplay.

I think I know which wins.
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>>257811365
>decent combat
it has some of the worst AI I have encounter,
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>>257811329
What's wrong with Call of Duty?
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>>257811365
>Great Story
>Great Characters
>Great atmosphere
The combat was mediocre at best
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>>257811365

You're also going to ignore the decades of characterization that the Mario cast has gone through? NSMBU is basic but to say the Mario cast isn't great is straight up ignorant.

NSMBU mutiplayer shits on any online shooter multiplayer ever too, by the way.
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>>257811041

Name 10
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>>257811365
TLOU is a boring and shitty interactive movie

if you're going to be anti-nintendo do not use that game as an example of why playstation is better
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>>257811602
same game, same gameplay, just new maps, every year, for the past 5 years,
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>>257811789

Thank you! I was going to say this too. I don't like Nintendo at all this gen, but I'm not about to defend that horrible schlock as if it was good.
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>>257789259
>The problem is idiots
Hey, I have a Wii U. Stop blaming idiots for everything.
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>>257811178
>You're guilty of the same thing, except with Mario Kart and Mario party
Mario Kart and Mario Party don't come out every fucking year, and no one pretends Mario Party is any good at this point.

>Y-y-you're just biased!
Right, I'm biased because I stated an observable fact. The mainstream praises western AAA rehashes while scolding Nintendo for doing the same thing at a slower pace. This is a fact. No one writes "Why [X] going to be the worst-selling game in the franchise yet" articles about AAA games on Xbox or Playstation. Pieces detailing Sony's money problems are fewer and further between compared to the ones about Nintendo, despite them being in better financial shape. I could go on.
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>>257811789
Not him, but I enjoyed it immensely. But I can see why a lot of people wouldn't, and that's okay. Not everything is for everyone.
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>>257811517
Then you've played nothing but games with amazing AI cos TLOU has really good AI outside of stealth sections
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>>257811685
Mario has decades of no characterization at all. They're like toys. They make lil "whoo!" "waha!" "wooooah!" noises.

>>257811789
>>257811927
The entire gaming world disagrees with you. Being edgy and fighting against what is popular does not make your extreme minority opinion correct.
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>>257812269
Millions of flies eat shit

does not mean we should all partake in a feast of shit.

the game is a terrible walk and press a button interactive movie.

atleast Mario is fun to play every once in a while, TLOU is just straight up dull as fuck.
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>>257812232
any gun shot section or fucking Ellen Page ussing the clippers as hidding sports
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>>257811708
Punch Out
Metroid Prime 3
Sin & Punishment
Animal Crossing
Pandora's Tower
Madworld
No More Heros 2
Donkey Kong (also on 3DS now though)
Red Steel 2
Taksunoko Vs. Capcom
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>>257812269
>>Mario has decades of no characterization at all. They're like toys. They make lil "whoo!" "waha!" "wooooah!" noises.

Like I said, you're ignoring the characterization. Paper Mario and the Mario & Luigi series' have fleshed out the cast immensely.
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>>257812461
You are not a fly. You are a human.

In this case, we are specifically speaking about gamers. And gamers agree that TLOU was a revolutionary game.
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>>257812603
> revolutionary
it revolutionised fuck all, it was nothing new.
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>>257812083

>Mario Kart and Mario Party don't come out every fucking year,

It innovates just as much, or should I say as little. New characters that play exactly the same and are just reskins? Tracks that are identical to previous ones and offer nothing good that other racers or shooters haven't offered before? Sounds pretty similar.

It's actually more damnig to Nintendo because they should have more time between releases to make the games better, but they squander it.

>The mainstream praises western AAA rehashes

And you're no better. John, you are the demons.

>and then anon was the demons.
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>>257812580

Also Luigi's Mansion
And Captain Toad
And Super Princess Peach
And and and
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>>257812603
>And paid advertiser-I mean journalists agree that TLOU was a revolutionary game.
ftfy

Also, its one thing to say its great, but another entirely to say its revolutionary. It is factually not revolutionary, it did absolutely nothing that hadn't been done before and better by another game. Twilight isn't revolutionary just because millions of people love it and think its great.
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>>257794013
>e PS4 and Xbox One aren't riding solely on their first party games.
For fuck sake, it's a joke
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>>257812789
>>257812958
Right, I'm sure that everybody in the world is a paid advertiser.

I would tell you to go tip your fedoras, but that meme is so overplayed right now.
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>>257813146
le epic meme

the game is shit, if you want to watch a film so badly go buy a bluray.
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>>257812827
each MK game improves somehow, more than any car sim like GT or Forza,

play Double Dash and Play wii and tell me they play the same, dare ya
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>Skeleton
DAVE JONES IS OUT OF HIS LOCKER
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>>257813473
now you're being an idiot

GT and Forza improve quite a lot, I've played the new Forza 5 and GT and I can safely say they have both improved over their previous games to warrant a new game.

I don't even like racing games either.
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>>257811878
So, it's called a sequel for a reason. You wouldn't expect a movie to be completely different from its predessesor. Real gamers like play the online multiplayer of Call of Duty.
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>>257813473

>play Double Dash and Play wii and tell me they play the same, dare ya

Double Dash had decent racing, some nice tracks, and an interesting character switch gimmick. MKWii had broken AI, terrible items, terrible tracks, a poor roster consisting of MORE baby characters, and uninteresting vehicles which did nothing but showcase poor vehicle programming, like those damn motorcycles.

>B-BUT MATURE GAMES ARE EVIL

You can argue this if you want, but that doesn't give Nintendo the license to be just as bad.
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>>257812827
>The mainstream praises western AAA rehashes
>And you're no better.
Did I call any of the games good? You're making assumptions now.
>New characters that play exactly the same and are just reskins
I don't even know what you're referring to here. I think like two characters in Mario Kart are reskins, and its metallic Mario and Peach. What do you mean they all play the same?
>Tracks that are identical to previous ones
It's got new tracks and Mario Party has new boards and minigames and shit with every game, don't know what you're getting at here.
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>>257813841
>Real gamers
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>>257812958
To be fair though you could call Twilight revolutionary based on all the terrible tween vampire fiction it spawned.
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>>257813841
call of duty fans aint gamers, they're call of duty players.

the reason they're not gamers is because the cancerous turds only play call of duty and nothing else.
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>>257813857
>>B-BUT MATURE GAMES ARE EVIL
said no one.
also
>car sim
>mature
>video game
get out of /v/, get a job, but a car, then you will be mature
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>>257813991

>Did I call any of the games good? You're making assumptions now.
Yes, you did actually.

>I don't even know what you're referring to here
Every character type plays like every other. No variety in the hundreds of babies they shoved into it, and the literal reskins add nothing whatsoever to the game.

>It's got new tracks
Which are the exact same as the old tracks.

>Mario Party has new boards and minigames
All rehashed from previous Mario parties, except with tacked on gimmicks like everyone traveling in one vehicle for the whole game.
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>>257813857
So you admit the games were different, then?

>You can argue this if you want, but that doesn't give Nintendo the license to be just as bad.

>Nintendo rehashes too much! LOOK!
>So does everyone else, look.
>Yeah, well Nintendo is just as bad! You're BIASED!
This line of thinking makes no sense.
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>>257789259
The problem is shitty marketing.
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>>257814397

>So you admit the games were different, then?

Actually, they're not. MKWii rehashes everything from Double Dash, but breaks each one to make it practically unplayable. So you're basically playing the same game, but unoptimized. You can argue that's different if you want, but I seem to call Asscreed and COD doing the same thing. not so different after all, I see.

>Nintendo rehashes too much! LOOK!
>So does everyone else, look.

And when did I say it was okay for everyone else?
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>>257814438
not just they do small, what ever they do get outshined by the black PR media been playing on em since wii
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I would describe CoD as one of my favorite series and I also play Halo, GTA, Battlefield, Elder Scrolls, Gears of War, Minecraft, and Madden. I don't only play Call of Duty.
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>>257814342
>Yes, you did actually.
Then please, do point it out.

>Every character type plays like every other
Not true, characters in the same weight class have slight variations, and the karts themselves have parts with varying stats.

>Which are the exact same as the old tracks.
Mario Kart 8 has16 new tracks. None of them were in previous games. This is not debatable.

>All rehashed from previous Mario parties, except with tacked on gimmicks like everyone traveling in one vehicle for the whole game.
Give specific examples and stop using buzzwords. All the boards are in fact different and most of the minigames are different. We're not talking about whether gimmicks ore good or bad, and if anything a new stupid gimmick in each game would imply they're at least different from one another, which isn't what you're trying to argue.
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>>257814836
the wii was huge dude, pretty much everyone had one. games are a different matter but the console had godly marketing and sold insanely well.
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>>257815094
Get the fuck out right now holy shit
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>>257815094
IGN is that way, normie.
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>>257815153
that still didnt stop media to call the doom on Nintendo, figure head of the campaign being Patcher
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>>257814804
>It rehashes everything!
>But its worse!
>...But it's somehow not different, even though its worse!

DD and Wii play very differently, more so than any Forza or GT game from one another. Try playing Super Circuit or 64 and then go to DS or MK8 and tell me its all identical.

>inb4 its just unoptimized and worse but still somehow the same
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>>257815453
people have been calling doom on every company ever for years.
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>>257815196
Fuck off, there's nothing wrong with having different tastes.

>>257815262
So? IGN isn't the largest game reviewing company for no reason.
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>>257815135

>do point it out
Try the entire thread. Try the OP. Blind, unwarranted praise everywhere.

>Not true, characters in the same weight class have slight variations, and the karts themselves have parts with varying stats.
And none of them make a difference. It's the same "Variation" as different guns in COD.

>Mario Kart 8 has16 new tracks.
And they're way too similar to old tracks, be it by design aesthetics or actual track layouts.

>Give specific examples and stop using buzzwords. All the boards are in fact different and most of the minigames are different.

Shake to win minigame.
Run away from thing minigame.
basketball minigame.
Cup shuffle minigame
Randomized minigame where someone loses at random because of AI.
etc

There are about 10 different variations of these games PER MARIO PARTY. And it gets worse down the line.
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>>257815527

>DD and Wii play very differently

If you're arguing that the latter being unoptimized and having terrible glitchy racing physics is different, then fine. I didn't consider that a good thing, but since you say it's okay for the AI to constantly get blue shells and for tracks to rely on gimmicks, and for characters to have no variety whatsoever.

Either way the series has become trash, if you are going to argue that it's changed in such stupid ways.
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>>257815650
The gaming media has been clamoring for nintendo to die for a long time. So long in fact that even the deep pocketed investors have caught wind of it.

http://playeressence.com/nintendo-share-holders-are-aware-of-major-media-bias-and-incorrect-info-on-nintendo/
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>>257816034
Right, they're different. Different controls, different physics, etc.
>Either way the series has become trash
Take off the rose-tinted glasses, 64 and half of the older games aged like milk. MKDS and MK7 were fine.
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>>257815736
IGN is a known paid shill. Their entire business model revolves around native advertising "news" articles.

Call of Duty as a franchise is actively encouraging stagnation of creativity, which is the exact opposite of what industries need to thrive. Right now it's propped up by outside investors using their money to make more money.

Nintendo seems to be the only ones who try new things outside of the few good indies that do. They can do this because they call the shots on their products. They produce their own hardware AND softwaer and can survive off that, at least until enough money gets thrown around to create an even bigger anti-Nintendo sentiment
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>>257816637

How about you take off the fanboy glasses? MKDS and MK7 aged like a cut of veal in a broken refrigerator. I'm sorry not all of us praise Nintendo blindly for every single thing they've done.
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>>257816836

>Nintendo seems to be the only ones who try new things
>hi, I'm completely ignorant of any and all PC games and I hate fun on other platforms because Nintendo didn't approve of it

Well, into the trash your post goes.
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>>257817039
>Implying most indies don't just ripoff whatever is topical
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>>257815779
Wow, so much backpedaling.

>Try the entire thread.
No, you said I specifically praised both games:
>Yes, you did actually.
Point it out, I'm waiting.

>And none of them make a difference
So, it's factually different, but it doesn't make a difference? The parts you pick for your kart make a pretty big difference, actually. Did you play it?

>And they're way too similar to old tracks, be it by design aesthetics or actual track layouts.
They're different. I don't care if you don't like them or think they're too similar, they're factually different. Again,t his is not debatable.

All you've done is backpedal on every single one of your points beyond Mario Party's minigames. And AGAIN, no one is pretending post-GC Mario Party games are any fucking good, which I've stated already. You just flat-out admitted its all different by backpedaling with arbitrary qualifications like 'they're too similar, so it doesn't count!'
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>>257817039
I mentioned indies if you kept reading. Show me a non-indie PC exclusive released in the last 5 years that is significantly different from what's available elsewhere
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>>257817247

It's more creative than what Nintendo pops out. My GOTY this year destroyed everything on consoles.
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>>257817449

How about Divinity: Original Sin? What about Robocraft? What about Firefall?
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>>257817513
What would that be?
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>>257817513
Which is your GOTY?
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>>257816895
>Shitting on half the games in the series
>Fanboy
lol

And I just said they were fine, not the best games ever. Double Dash is probably my favorite.
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>>257789259
The main problem is Nintendo considers a party game as their Ace in the Hole while Sony's been "buying" exclusives left and right.
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>>257817349

>Point it out, I'm waiting.

see>>257816637

Claiming that MKDS and MK7 aged better than Super Circuit or 64 for starters. And no, I'm not listening to you if you say that's not your post. You're taking responsibility for it anyway because I'm not being lied to again

>They're different.
Only if we're going by your standards.

>And AGAIN, no one is pretending post-GC Mario Party games are any fucking good, which I've stated already

And you refuse to read the thread and a post which I JUST pointed out to you.
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>>257817892
>"buying" exclusives left and right.
thats why they have the less exclusive on 8th gen so far?
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>>257817841
>>257817845

I know none of you played it, so you can't call it bad.
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>>257818069
I played and it felt like contra with robots, nothing special really
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>>257818069
I can smell the fedora from here. I'll still look at the game though.
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>>257817918
>Claiming that MKDS and MK7 aged better than Super Circuit or 64 for starters
That's not MK8 or Mario Party, the games you specifically said I called good. And that post didn't even exist until 5 minutes ago, and wasn't made by me. you're getting desperate.

>Only if we're going by your standards.
Right, the definition of the word 'different'

>And you refuse to read the thread and a post which I JUST pointed out to you.
But that post said nothing about Mario Party at all?
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>>257818405

>Contra with robots

And it's still more original than Mario Party 20 or Asscreed 50.

>>257818437

>That's not MK8 or Mario Party, the games you specifically said I called good

Still the same to me. MK7 and MK8 are exact copies.

>But that post said nothing about Mario Party at all?

Does that really matter?
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>i like Nitnendo, and if you don't like Nintendo too YOU'RE A STUPID SONYGGER AND YOU HATE VIDEO GAMES!

Yep, I should've known this thread would go to hell.
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>>257818620
>Indie games
>Original
There has been few exceptions, this is not one, but hey, you are an indie fag so what can I say?
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>>257818028
Wii U: 119
Xbone: 38
PS4: 28

Wii U has more than both combined, and then some.
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>>257806606
Like the PS2 right?
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>>257818889

>There has been few exceptions, this is not one

Oh yes, and console rehashes are so much better, right?
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>>257818889

Typical sour grapes mentality. "It's not on the Wii-U so it sucks!"

Said the same thing about Team fortress 2, and yet all I hear is jealousy.
>>
The problem is you copying and pasting this same thread every fucking day
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>>257818620
>Still the same to me.
Careful, you'll fall off if you backpedal too hard.

>Does that really matter?
>And AGAIN, no one is pretending post-GC Mario Party games are any fucking good
>And you refuse to read the thread and a post which I JUST pointed out to you.
I don't see a single post calling Mario Party games good, and that post you suggested I take a gander at said nothing about Mario Party either. So yes, it does matter, because apparently you're illiterate.
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>>257819497

I posted you the posters who said Mario Party was "their favorite" and I also need to remind you of the overwhelming sales each game not.

>B-BUT NOBODY LIKES THEM

Tell that to the sales.
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>>257819701

>people bought 2 million copies of Mario Kart 8
>these same people hate on COD's fanbase for mindlessly buying rehashes
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>>257819017
Yes SM3DW last levels were really good, if you stop being so closed minded you would really appreciate other things
>>257819165
I enjoy Indie games TF2 too, I just said his Shit taste is showing by saying Contra with robots is GOTY
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>>257820398

>Yes SM3DW last levels were really good

So I have to trudge through the entire game of mediocrity before it gets good? Why not be good from the start?

>I enjoy Indie games TF2 too,

When you previously called it shit because it wasn't on a Nintendo system? heh, now who's backpedaling? And before you claim you didn't say that, I point you to these posts >>257816836
>>257817449

Who claim that nothing has ever been made on PC that was "different from the norm."
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That is why I will buying a Wii U this December.
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>>257819701
>I posted you the posters who said Mario Party was "their favorite"
Where? Again, no one ITT said it was good.
>also need to remind you of the overwhelming sales each game not.
Stop fucking backpedalling.

>"You said this game was good!"
>No I didn't.
>"Yes you did!"
>No, I didn't.
>"Well, other posters did!"
>No, they didn't.
>"...Well, it sold a lot!"
Just hilarious.

>>257819984
But kids love CoD.
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>>257820990

>tfw Nintendo fans will hate MGSV even though, as supposed idorts, they should be able to enjoy it on the PC

Guess they'll only stop hating it if it comes to the Wii-U. Same deal with Dark Souls.
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>>257819984
I didn't buy this new Mario Kart because they changed too much. Were you aware that 10 COD games are available on 360?
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>>257820398
The only good pa