If PC gaming is so great, why doesn't it have any Japanese games?
>just about every single major Japanese IP can be found on PC
>tons of PC ONLY japanese games
>rest pretty much emulate-able nowadays
I know this be b8,
but I just know some people are really this delusional.
Because no one in Japan has a PC more powerful than a toaster.
No, really. The average PC there is a simple office computer. People on 2ch bitched about Rance IX's requirements being too much, which when I checked, were early-Vista level.
Serious answer: Japan is somehow both the most behind third world with decent resources and the future at the same time.
They still have fax machines and think PCs are purely for programming and accounting in some areas.
They go for aesthetic appeal but have nor can get the budget that western AAA games have outside a rare few.
Half the reason illusion games were so shit in optimization is because the average player on steam would be using a 780 for gaming, and a titan black for rendering and multitasking in comparison.
What anime are you guys watching right now?
This is why I also get the Nintendo systems. To play all the relevant japanese games
They're still Japanese PC games friendo.
Metal Gear Solid V just got announce on steam.
oh wait this is bait.
Most PC only Japanese games aren't big name save for a couple Ys games.
>every single major Japanese IP can be found on PC
Not legally and not available for purchase.
What if I want to buy my games? I suppose I could emulate off disc, but then I'm either not playing the game the way devs intended or I'm not paying for the device some of these companies put out that help supports said companies.
Even if they allowed eroge on steam, Rance will never be released in the west. Alicesoft has said it'll never happen, and their website doesn't even allow access to non-japanese IPs (yes you can proxy around it, but that's not the point).
Why? Because they don't want the controversy. Because they're fully aware that something that can fly in Japan doesn't mean it will elsewhere.
What do porn games even matter?
Its a problem because the PC library is missing a lot of really good stuff that a lot of people would go out and buy (plenty of Shin Megami Tensei and Persona games, Kingdom Hearts, Pokemon, Zelda, Star Fox, Fire Emblem, Ape Escape, Bravely Default, Rune Factory, Harvest Moon...) PC is missing out on a lot of series for purchase.
Pretty sure I addressed that already.
You misunderstand me. The name isn't more important than the game itself, however many titles are big name for a reason. While not always the case, a lot of these titles are so big and well known because they're often high quality. PC is missing a lot of that.
I'll give you that. I wish there was less loli in it.
Nigga, I bet you can't into economics. Please... Plus, that game was on there far before any of the current weeb shit.
yeah, what about it?
I bought my physical copy, it's beautiful. The box is a nice sturdy material and it's the size PC game boxes used to be. The old blizzard Warcraft 3 sized boxes.
>PC is missing out on a lot of series for purchase.
As I said, those don't get PC releases because by and large, the average japanese PC is quite honestly a really shitty machine. Japan has always had this mindset of "Japan sales first, always", even when Japanese sales only make up a fraction of what they make worldwide.
>Dark Souls in the background
Shit I just noticed that.
>Wanting normalfags to infest falcom games
It's already bad with Celceta and Sen.
I don't think I own any of those sort of games.
When I said quality I was more referring to stuff mentioned here >>257769797
Are you implying porn games are anywhere near as important than games developed for other reasons?
>the average japanese PC is quite honestly a really shitty machine
Stop listening to based retards spreading that shit rumor. The average Japanese guy who play Japanese game has a graphic card good enough to watch the animes they download from winny, most of them are in 1080p format too. Try watching that shit on a 'shitty computer' and see how it goes.
>Try watching that shit on a 'shitty computer' and see how it goes.
I know, I used to have a computer that couldn't play my Code Geass episodes in anything higher than 480p.
It still doesn't change the fact that they bitched about IX's requirements, which were quite honestly pitiful.
Of course, but a lot of them are really great and enjoyable games. Also apparently Playism's site crashed after they announced digital sales for Touhou 14 on their Japanese site.
It was extremely casualized, but I still had
funwith it. You don't even need to play Sen or listen to the JP players to see how awful Sen looks compared to previous kiseki games.
>Japan has always had this mindset of "Japan sales first, always", even when Japanese sales only make up a fraction of what they make worldwide.
There's nothing wrong with that. Develop for the market you know.
I don't now what to say then.
I can't think of any real argument against the idea that porn games are just as viable and important as anything else. I never really considered them and always thought of anything fanservicy or pornographic as low brow.
>Le epic trashman!
Worst mayamy since ayy lmao
Japanese devs have long since written off PC as an enthusiast-only market. Hell, most devs don't even bother with consoles anymore, and once they all switch over to phone shit Japanese gaming will be dead for good.
Arguing over which one is harder is stupid, they were both ridiculously easy. I know Ys isn't hard core hard, but I'd at least enjoy some challenge like in Oath or Origins.
>dark souls in the background
This is why a non-retard should be an idort these days OP.
There isn't a PC gaming scene in Japan like there is in the rest of the world.
In Japan, people only go home to sleep and spend most of their time either at work or commuting to & from work. This left PC gaming largely to those who like Hentai games, and that's where the money went.
Now PC gaming in Japan has an awful stigma surrounding it, that you must be into ero-games like Rapelay or whatever. So people don't even want to admit that they have gaming PCs in their houses. Only NEETs who never leave their rooms are PC gamers.
So in a situation like that, why would a Japanese developer dedicate any time to creating a PC game? Only a tiny indie scene is starting to develop, and even they cater to Vita and 3DS anyway.
Space Dandy, Black Lagoon, Blue Exorcist (I watch Toonami), Aldnoah.Zero, Terror in Resonance, Sword Art Online II, and Sailor Moon Crystal.
That's a lot of porn.
I don't think I've ever played a Japanese porn game.
SotC HD, Kingdom Hearts HD, Valkyria Chronicles, and MGSIV on the other hand...
All right. I'll keep it in mind and might give it a try sometime.
Okay... I thought I had struck a goldmine for a moment. But I guess everything turns to shit when given enough time, right?
>I don't think I've ever played a Japanese porn game.
>he's never played the greatest hero saga of all time
I believe anon posted this pic satirically, because the "American" characters are all from Japanese games while all the "Japanese" characters he displayed were from Western games.
Hugo was boring easy since he was ranged. Yunica was easy. I had a bit trouble with Toal. I honestly cannot remember a boss I had trouble with on celceta or 7. I did enjoy both of them.
>Playing other modern games
People think Japan is some futuristic wonderland, but would die of shock if they actually saw how backwards they are in reality. Windows XP is still widely used, and those old 90's beige boxes are the bleeding edge.
I didn't even know that was on Steam. Even if it wasn't very good, I used to own that on PS3 and sold it before ever playing much of it. I've been wanting to play it again.
The best part is, its available for cheap right now. Thanks for reminding me about this anon.
made for PCs that run Realplayer, AOL, and have a Bonzi buddy in the corner
The western otaku that's into VNs are the scum of the earth. Worse than a pack of niggers playing madden.
Think I've played Rance 7 alone more than Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 4 and Atelier series combined.
Don't get me wrong, I like all of those mainstream Jap games too.. but there is very little motivation for me to play them. I get the same kind of excitement out of the average anime and it takes a lot less effort to watch that.
So I just watch anime instead.
>Playing other modern games
You got me there I suppose. Mostly shit on my Vita or indie games on PC though.
I'm actually excited for TW3 though, so I'll probably be disappointed with it like I was with TW2.
I liked 7...
People say start with Sengoku, but honestly that's kind of a self-justification for the fact that for the longest time it was the only one translated. It is the 7th game in the story after all.
Don't PLAY the first game. Read the digest version of 1's remake, since 01 won't be translated any time soon.
Play 3, 4, 4.1, 4.2, where were all translated by Maria over at /haniho/ in vg.
5D will take some time since it's taking a while, but unlike the last time they tried translating it, the guy translating and editing now is actually making progress (despite being a heavy alcoholic).
6 won't be translated until 5D is done.
Sengoku (7) is already good to go.
Don't expect Quest (8) to be translated for several years. The game is massive in size.
9 might get translated one day. It's actually not a particularly long game in comparison to Quest.
Kichikuou, while non-canon, has recently finished translating and editing and is currently in bugtesting.
Call every game shit so you'll never be disappointed when they are shit and pleasantly surprised when they're decent or good.
Because computers in japan didn't catch on for gaming because of kanji and the global market.
But I was hyped as fuck for TitS FC and it was the first game in years that my hype wasn't wasted on.
I think I've learned to realize which games are shit and which are good now.
I wish SC was here already. My moon is only decent enough to under the gist of the conversation at the beginning of the game.
Welcome in /v/ anon. You're one of us now!
>Some of it got in my eyes...
It could be worse.
What I like about this is that Japanese games actually care about optimization more than western games. I don't expect every game to run on my 2004 laptop, but if a game could potentially run on it then it should. Western devs are way to accustomed to consuming resources for no technical benefit.
>What I like about this is that Japanese games actually care about optimization more than western games.
Shame they rarely pull said optimization off.
And I really do mean it's a shame. Japs just can't fucking into programming sometimes.
>Video game discussion kills the thread
What, I didn't even know there was an estelle doujin.