Where did the Ghosts go so wrong? >care package removed from

>>257678481
Idk where CoD 4.6.0 went wrong, probably in CoD 4's original conception stages, but I can tell you where you went wrong: you picked up cowaduty.

Big, convoluted maps.
Emphasis on TDM, no incentive to ptfo.
Shitty color palette, everything's washed out, too difficult to tell people from the environment.
Boring, bland, useless killstreaks (and the fact that it used killstreaks at all instead of scorestreaks)
Terrible perk and gun balance
Ridiculously fast TTK

All that shit turned the game into a dry, boring campfest.

>>257678481

Besides the pc version being crap. The game was just bland and the guns handle like shit.
Having huge maps can work. Like you see in World at war bcause tanks. in Ghosts the maps made no sense, they were just one big open field with no chokepoints or center.

The minimap was great though

>>257680664
So basically everything that was wrong with MW3 as well.

>>257683120

They introduced a lot of cool perks in Ghosts though. But pretty much yeah.

>>257683120
MW3 had better maps and some cool killstreaks at least, but yeah, basically.

Man the maps just felt so bad. Like you were being forced to camp to get anywhere. They stripped the fun out of the game for super serious MLG playstyles and it ruined it for me.

I just want to run around with my friends with dumb classes and have fun.

>>257683794
The DLC maps are way better though. Typically for a COD game..

>>257683578
If you mean the most annoying killstreaks to hit CoD yet then yes I agree

>>257678481
It's having an Identity crisis as of now and I'm sure other anons will go into more depth in the subject

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>>257684137
The DLC maps are better than the base maps, but that almost makes it worse because it means they could've been designing decent small-to-medium maps the entire time, but instead were just fucking around until they could release them for 15 bucks a pop.

And it doesn't change the camping problems or the lack of incentive to play the objective.

>>257684529
What was so bad about the MW3 streaks?

>mfw you say Stealth Bomber and EMP

>>257680664
This.
Plus retarded campaign and the new survival mode only having 1 playable map unless you buy the DLC

>>257683120
You mean the one where 6-8 stealth bombers would show up on the enemy team all at the same time in the last few minute of the game.

>>257684714
>And it doesn't change the camping problems or the lack of incentive to play the objective.

That has been missing since Black ops 1.

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>>257684714
The fucking stealth bomber
>mfw it hits
on top of that
EMPs
OP as fuck specialist streak (yes this is all I used)
>Putting streaks that kill into fucking support
the constant screaming and just all around shitstorm when some fag gets a M.O.A.B
etc i'm sure there are a few more i'm forgetting

>>257685008
Black Ops 2 HEAVILY incentivizes you to play the objective.

Tags are worth more than kills in KC.
Capping points and defensive kills are worth more than regular kills in Dom. Capture kills are worth their weight in gold.

And so on.

Presumably Advanced Warfare will be the same since it uses scorestreaks.

>>257685209
I mean yeah it was retarded and unbalanced, but wasn't it kinda fun in a way when you got that stuff? The feeling when you get Specialist Bonus or an AC-130 in MW3 is pretty neat.

>>257685384
Yea but MW3 is when shit got outta hand I mean it was like some insane parody of MW2
but with
>Moutain dew! (Yes at the time it was insane the amount of advertising these things got together)
>Quick scoping garbage became more and more of a thing
>Based robert bowling thrown on his ass because he wants to give players more free maps
>the constant pop ups that affect you while play ing (This shit annoyed me to no end)
and a few more bullshit things on a more positive note
I loved
>Kill confirmed
>Infected
>Drop zone
>The gun play
>The gun selection
>The maps
>an overall good SP

>>257685384
Ac130 sucked in mw3 compared to mw2

>>257685246
>Black Ops 2 HEAVILY incentivizes you to play the objective.

Yes but my experience was that people did not play that way. Lots of tags was just left around, and dominations flags kept being onesided the whole match, because everybody was playing TDM in their heads

>>257685905
yeah that shit was vague as fuck.

>>257685967
>play objectives
>not running orbital vsat - lodestar -dogs

Scorestreaks for days and all you need to get the ball rolling is kill the first people who jump you on B.

every UI element was just really ugly and poorly designed and it wasnt very fun.

>>257686436
I hated the lodestar because it took you out of the game, I preferred
>Vsat > Dogs > UAV/turret/Counter UAV

>>257686436
>Scorestreaks for days and all you need to get the ball rolling is kill the first people who jump you on B.

Try doing that shit in Raid.

>>257685967
In my experience, people wanted to get their streaks, so they went after tags and flags.

Even if they don't, as long as you play the objectives yourself and git gud enough to get a VSAT, you can fucking one man army that shit.

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>>257686670
>UAV > VSAT > Warthog
>mfw that fucking sound

>>257687010
>Warthog
If you wanna go full commando go
>Warthog/Vsat >Dogs >swarm
you'd have to play super careful and smart to not killed by your own streaks though

>same garbage as the last 30 cod games

So when are you guys going to stop buying these? What's it going to take?

>>257686745
Raid is the map for this, trick is to let them roll up to b first whilst flanking, either mid or statue. Once clear use smokes hide out of the ditch and hope to god nobody is using mm scanner. Also a good tactic is to throw your smokes where they are coming from, if they want to shoot at you they have to move from their precious stairs/bunker.

>>257678481
I don't know about the multiplayer but
>no custom single player loadouts
>no choices in the campaign
>only one ending
Big step backwards from Blops 2

>>257687424

When Treyarch stops making them.

>>257687431
>god nobody is using mm scanner
Did anyone actually use that? I think i might have seen that one time or some thing. Its like the Low power scope in Blops1

>>257687424
https://sys.4chan.org/v/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=257687424

>>257687424
m80, I'll stop buying them when they stop being enjoyable. That's the great thing about our capitalist system.

Black Ops II was fun, I bought it and enjoyed it for the full year. Ghosts was shit, I didn't get it. Advanced Warfare looks fun, I'll rent it and if it's good, I'll buy it.

>>257687327
Always pick dogs over swarm i usually run lodestar/warthog with dogs. Whilst they are avoiding your air support, they might neglect the fact that there's dogs about. Also slows discourages people from trying to shoot you down.

>>257687761
>not pirating all your games
pleb

>>257687898

Yeah because playing Cod with no online is so much fun?

>>257687649
I used it all the time with smokes plus scavenger. Great when you have buddies using the same tactic.

>>257688021
Multiplayer is for faggots and casuals

>>257687649
Smoke Grenade+MK64 (or is it 46?) with Dual Band was a pretty fucking popular choice for Dom.

I also had a pretty gimmicky PDW+MMS loadout that I used with Engineer, EMPs and Black Hats. The idea was point whore by seeing everything and breaking everybody's equipment and constantly be getting Care Packages.

That's what was great about BOII. You could do some fun ass gimmick builds in that game. I hope AW has the same potential.

>>257688179
>. I hope AW has the same potential.

They said in the reveal that in total there was 300 something different weapon variants. So that sounds good.

The maps were fucking sheepdip. 6v6 on damn the entire continent of Antarctica
Also the game didn't really have a theme

>>257688631
>The maps were fucking sheepdip. 6v6 on damn the entire continent of Antarctica

Yeah and removing ground war on old consoles did not really help.

>>257683052
Worst fucking map in this game is Whiteout.
Who the hell decided that this map was good idea? I always leave from lobby or match in progress if this piece of shit comes in.
What kind of friendless fatass you need to be to even vote for this map?

>>257688778
>Worst fucking map in this game is Whiteout.
It plays like shit, but looks really cool. There are so many empty points on that map, its like the swimming pool in Bloc (cod4) all over again

>>257688597
Yeah but that sounded just like they were talking up the randomized supply drop garbage. Like, this gun with one more tic in recoil is TOOOOTTALLY different from the same gun with one more tic in rate of fire. Borderlands tried the same crap, I'm pretty sure.

What I really care about there is if we'll have any control ourselves over the stats of our guns or if it'll just be purely random. Like if I can just do something to get a souped up version of a gun with better recoil but worse range without having to deal with some RNG shit, I'd be down for that, I guess.

yayy /v/ can talk about stuff!!

>>257678481
Played it for a weekened. There's absolutely nothing enjoyable or redeeming about this piece of shit. I enjoyed Black Ops for a short while but this was just pure fucking garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSozu-RdS5k

i'm seriously considering buying new cowadooty. i like how double jump + forward dash makes the movement so fucking fast

what is the best loadout? not looking for opinions, looking for a consensus

>>257688778
>Worst fucking map in this game is Whiteout.
Stonehaven and Siege would like to have a word with you.

>>257689327
yes, they're all shit.

>>257689302
Which game?

>>257689447
ghosts

>>257689327
Atleast on Stonehaven everyone isn't wearing a camo that blends in 90% of the map.
Whiteout flat out forces you to use the "No fun" scopes, aka, thermal scope and that other outline revealing one.

>>257689447
The one where you shoot the bad guys.

>>257689531

Honeybadger is pretty OP.

>>257689531
M27 + Silencer & Rapid Fire
Stalker
Toughness
Dead Silence
Sleight of Hand
Hardline

No reason to use anything else. M27 is the fucking god gun in that game. If you wanna be a real tryhard little asshole, you can put a thermal sight in instead of Rapid Fire.

>>257689531
>>257689302
Ghosts doesn't really have any decent setups. But you can destroy people in hardcore by running support- vests squadmate oracle

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>non ironic call of duty threads

/v/ you are dead to me

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>>257689531

This is going to sound weird, but I dislike the inconsistency between CoD games. The time-to-kill in MW2/3 is radically different from something like Blops/Blops2 its difficult to play them back to back.

>>257690881
>Getting angry at video game discussion on /v/
/v/ you are dead to me

>>257690956
The time to kill is the worst in Ghosts. There are no chance you are gonna be able to turn around and shoot back.

>All guns have the same ads, even sniper rifles
>no lock on launcher means airstreaks reign supreme
>maps are huge yet the spawning is still horrible
>the fucking dog

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>>257678481
>playing this cancerous casual shit
I knew that it takes a special kind of retard to like modern wellfare but OP takes the fucking cake.


Go fucking kill yourself and stop polluting our oxygen you stupid shit.

>>257678481
>playing cawadooty
>actually trying to discuss about it

Fuck off retard

>>257691891
>>the fucking dog

When that fucking dog jumps you are fucked.

>>257686436
>needing lodestar and dogs to rack up kills.

Get good. CUAV > VSAT > EMP.

The ultimate support.

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>>257678481
>the most dumbed-down game specially made for mentally challenged shits who have trouble just trying to turn on his computer
>complains about something marginally different
>in the most streamlined pile of shit excuse of a game ever

>>257692212

>stop liking things i dont like

>>257678481
Only one to go wrong in anything was OP.
Go kill yourself you gigantic fucking faggot, who the fuck plays that casual shit?

>>257691816
AW's TTK looks similar to MW3 or Ghosts, but I imagine it'll feel significantly different because of how much people will be jumping around and boost-strafing.

Hang yourself, OP, you worthless piece of shit.

>>257692249
The dog literally kills you like four or five frames before it touches you. There's no way to defend yourself from it if it gets remotely close to you.

There are people on v that actually played ghosts
I shiggy diggidy doo

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Black Ops 2 was kinda fun.
I made some class with a shield, c4, and a pistol and apparently that setup made people really, really mad.

>>257692262
I seem to remember someone using something on me where your screen was messed up and your map was static and you could momentarily shoot your own teammate. Is that EMP?

>>257692739
>gamerscore 10
yeah he def. has a right to speak

You were right to piss that kid off, anon.

>>257692703
Worst is when you have a sniper rifle and the dog rushes you.

>>257692753
>shoot your own teammate.
eh?

>>257692703
Fantastic netcode... -.-

>>257692617
or hopefully they will fix it. Sledgehammer seems to be as open to change as Treyarch

>>257692427
Maybe anyone would give a shit if you weren't trying to talk about the shittiest, dumbed-down shooter you could find made especially for ADHD autists.

There is literally nothing to talk about, except confirm that the game, is in fact, pure shit.

Like you.

>>257692909
Fuck off you underaged piece of shit and go back to whatever fucking hugbox forum you're from.

You talk like a goddamn faggot.

I used to be a huge call of duty fan.
MW2 as my first, then Black Ops, then I quit. Then my friend gave me MW3 and I fell in love all over again. Then I quit again. Then my friend bought me ghosts. I hated it. Then I got BO2 and mildly enjoyed it. I don't like ghosts because there is no challenge. MW2 is my favorite just because if you wanted a certain attachment on a gun you had to work for it. In every game after BO you just levelled your gun up and while I didn't like it I thought it was still all right.
Then in ghosts they fucking made it more casual than it already is. "Don't like being forced to use your gun to get better attachments? LET'S JUST GIVE YOU LITTLE TOKENS SO YOU CAN FEEL SPECIAL! THEN LET'S LET YOU BUY FUCKING EVERYTHING AT LEVEL ONE!"
I play MW2 to this day because I enjoy working for cool gunz.
Ghosts is boring as shit.

>>257692909
I don't know. Maybe it was a grenade or something. I remember my screen messing up and then a guy ran around the corner and I shot him in panic. Then it said I'd killed my own teammate. I wonder what it was?

>>257692909
It's not a netcode thing, it's the fact that the dog's hitbox is way bigger than the actual model and it kills you before it actually touches you.

>>257693214
Sounds like you were playing Hardcore.

>>257693283
No, it was in TDM. I tried shooting my guys after my map was restored but it didn't kill them anymore. Damn. Anyone else have any idea what I'm talking about? It's going to bug me all night.

>>257685246
>tfw only have BO2 on the WiiU
>tfw the only two playlists that have players are TDM and S&D
I just want to play Dom ;_;

>>257693424
There is something called Hardcore tdm

>>257693491
how many are actually playing on Wii u? I got ghosts for it and its maybe 1k people if im lucky.

>>257693424
Hardcore isn't a mode, it's a set of rules, but if you didn't go into the Hardcore playlist intentionally, it's likely not that anyway.

I can't think of anything in Core that'd enable friendly fire like that. Weird.

>>257693589
There's about 700-1k people on BO2. on a 1k night there'll be 700 in TDM and then 300 in S&D and maybe like 20 people playing domination

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>>257678481
Where did Call Of Duty go wrong?
>Regen health
>Killstreaks
>QTE
>Horrible level design
>Hitmarkers
>Perks
>Levels

>>257693950
>maps
>multiplayer
>soldiers
>guns
>grass
>dirt
>water
>molecules

>>257678481
>Where did Ghosts go wrong?
Weapon sway (from MW3)
Weird perk system
Shitty maps
Boring killstreaks
That's about it

>>257693283
>>257693502
>>257693629
Okay. I actually booted up the game to try it. A fully charged 9 bang will allow you to kill your own teammate for about 2-3 seconds after getting hit with it.

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>>257694474
Holy shit, Infinity Ward.

>>257694474
i have to try this shit when i get home.