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>She wasn't hiding behind fire, she got trapped and couldn't

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>She wasn't hiding behind fire, she got trapped and couldn't escape because dresses are not conducive to acrobatics.
No, you fucking retard, she was casting fire and was hiding behind it, she even casted fire as Sheik in the fire temple.

That's how clueless and retarded pro female Sheik retards are. You guys have no fucking idea about Zelda games, shut the fuck up.
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>Pro-male sheiks lost literally every thread that has been created today.

Pro male Sheik crowd arguments:
>Zelda wants people to believe she's a boy
>she's into magic
>so is Impa
>Sheik's body looks entirely different
>different skin
>different eyes
>different eye color
>different eyebrows
>different hair
>bigger feet
>flatass
>muscular chest you can't get by binding your tits
>bigger framework in general
>strong and incredibly fast
>could do shit on her own, saved Ruto, protected Kakariko
>jumped down 100 feet in the desert
>Link never gets to lay his hands on him because he's fast as fuck and bails out
>whereas Zelda runs like a grandma at the end of Ocarina of Time and can't do anything except opening gates by using her magic, can't even help Link defeating some Stalfos and has to hide in a ring of fire she casts
>manga that's officially approved by Nintendo features Zelda getting turned into a boy by Impa's help

Pro female Sheik crowd arguments:
>haha, Tumblr is in denial, le Tumbl, Tumbl, TUmbl
>you are gay
>Sheik iz girl, yo
>b-but my interview translator guy, a-and my non-canon Tecmo shit (which is actually another proof that Ocarina of Time Sheik is male since Sheik in Hyrule Warriors is female and looks exactly like Zelda, whereas Ocarina of Time Sheik doesn't look like Zelda, see above)
>s-stop samefagging
>LOL
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>>256813840
And...

/thread
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>>256813840
>>Sheik iz girl, yo
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>>256813762
Then why does she gasp in surprise when it happens?
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>>256813762
HOLY SHIT. Enough already.

It doesn't matter. Stop shitting up the board with this stupid fucking debate.
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>>256813840
these arguments are so fucking retarded. zelda is a woman. zelda turns into sheik. zelda=sheik so sheik=female. it's really not that hard. nintendo themselves have even said that sheik is a female, but why should they? it's PAINFULLY obvious that zelda is still a woman after she puts on a ninja costume. holy fuck.
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>>256813762
>she even casted fire as Sheik in the fire templ
>Summon Fire =/= Resist Fire
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>>256814887
Not until you fags learn there is nothing wrong with being gay
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>>256816314
IT DOES NOT MATTER

SHUT THE FUCK UP
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It was fucking confirmed like three days ago. Jesus Christ, Sheik is a woman. It's literally Zelda in a fucking change of clothes. Are you people retarded? Mulan doesn't magically grow a cock just because she changes her outfit.
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>>256813973
Volvagia was Link's pet?
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>>256816314
Well at least we finally know why all these threads keep popping up. Gay people trying to gain acceptance through vidya. The only problem is that it is never implied that she is gay. She was just disguised as a guy. Also what this guy said.
>>256815507
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>>256813762

>girls can't make themselves look like boys, it's impossible!
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Being homosexual would be a bannable offense except it'd mean /a/ and moot would both be gone.
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>>256816573
No, because apparently /v/ isn't tolerant even after ALL THESE FUCKING YEARS it still as shitty as the rest of 4chan
It is time to learn that "woman" you been beating off to all these years is a really a dude
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sorry guys but it's been confirmed officially that Sheik is a woman.

it's time to hang it up.
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>>256817586
How is thinking a women can be a badass ninja intolerant? If anything it's the opposite.
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>>256817658
>had some autistic guy arguing with me on deviantart years ago that sheik was a man
>fish through my old ass inbox
>gave him the link that nintendo officially confirmed it just a few days ago
>he immediately blocked me
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>>256813840

All of this is refuted by the same argument you are using to suggest Sheik is boy. She's using magic to make herself look like a boy, while still being a girl. You have no evidence to suggest otherwise.
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People debate this because Nintendo never really answered whether or not Zelda was using magic to gender swap.
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Oh, we don't have an argument huh?

http://www.freewebs.com/sheiksevensage/sheiksgender.htm
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>>256818224

why would she need to use magic to change her gender? see >>256818169

if you can use magic to physically change your body's gender, why can't you instead simply use magic to create an illusion that makes people think your body is a different gender? That is simpler than physically changing bodies. With no evidence supporting one over the other, the simpler solution is the correct one by default.
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>>256818737

Nintendo said it is zelda as a disguise, while not answering the core of the debate on whether or not Zelda was actually gender swapping.

So the debate will continue on whether or not she grew a dick or created an illusion.
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>>256818737
>This solution is true because I said so
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>>256818996

And Nintendo, and all of the existing in-game canon said so...
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>Nintendo says Shiek is a woman because she's Zelda in disguise
>/v/ and SJWs try to argue it because muh transgenders
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>>256818956

gender swapping is not used to disguise people... typically when you disguise yourself as the other gender that doesn't include getting a genital operation.

name ONE instance in games/shows/movies/etc where a physical gender swap is needed to disguise someone as the opposite gender, rather than simply dressing yourself differently.
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>>256813840
>sheik is male because she can actually fight

and this is how you idiots reveal yourselves: its just good old misogyny, refusing to accept a girl could actually accomplish things
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>>256818996
>What is Occam's Razor
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>>256819508
>typically when you disguise yourself as the other gender that doesn't include getting a genital operation.

IT'S FUCKING MAGIC
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>>256819560

No one stops to think that Zelda merely used magic to enhance her muscle mass.


and unaturally swoll woman would look like a man.
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Why does it matter what genetalia zelda has, if they want to represent as a boy then they are male and you should respect that.
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>>256813840
Hey fujoshi, you lost your way to /v/?
/cm/ is over there
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>>256819719

And what is the purpose of using magic to change your genitals? It has already been established that doing so is not necessary to disguise yourself as the other gender. There is no point.
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sheik is merely zelda in a disguise

anyone attempting to pretend otherwise is in denial

we have known this for nearly 2 decades, and trying to ironically dispute it is not funny
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>>256820076

I am fine with this. Zelda can identify as a male all she wants while in disguise. That's the point of the disguise. These people are arguing that she physically changed her genitals which is completely pointless and adds nothing except tranny pandering.
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>>256819719
>A WIZARD DID IT
So no proof
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>>256819508

Then why does her eye color and build change?
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>>256820852
Magic. It doesn't mean she gave herself a dick.
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>>256820852

>she can use magic to change their gender, but she can't use magic to grow muscles or give herself contacts

give it up already
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>>256813973
>Posting a manga page as proof
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>>256820852
Contacts & padding
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>>256818224
But Bill Trinen said so literally a few days ago. They debate is over. The guy is an official Nintendo rep.
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>>256813973
That manga was fucking stupid. It changes Sheik from a disguise to an alternate personality.
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>>256821051
Aonuma says the manga is canon
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>>256821271

no he doesn't. where's your source
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>>256821259
And Link had a pet dragon
And Link met bird people
And Link fought Dark Link at Kariko Village
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It's "magic" you fucking idiots, it's supposed to be for children, get over it basement dwellers.
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>>256820913
>>256821045
>>256821139

But why?
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>>256813973
I wasn't aware the manga was canon. I guess the CDi games are canon too.
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>>256813973
>she doesn't physically change her into a boy
>Link noting how delicate Sheik's body is, and getting flustered about it
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>>256821508
It's a disguise. She disguised herself.
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>>256821601
But why not go all the way
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>>256821601

So why wouldn't she also have a penis?
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>>256821259

to be fair sheik depends on an entirely different fighting style than Zelda.

There is no reason that Zelda couldn't combine Sheiks training with her magic unless Sheik was an altered state of mind to ensure she wouldn't use magic.
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>>256813762
But i don't give a fuck about your murder mystery clues for your dick girl fetish, detective. Nintendo already stated she has always been a girl. Even if it was planned as something else before and it was retconned, who gives a fuck? What kind of train of thought is that?

>Zelda will disguise herself as a man! But that's not enough! No, She will grow a magic cock! Never will it be mentioned or add anything to the plot, but it's there alright!
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>>256821720
Because it's a god damn video game from the 90s, anon. Nobody put that much thought into this shit They made the video game and thought it would be a cool plot twist if Sheik was Zelda. That's it. I don't understand why people are overly analyzing this.
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just taking the time to say that this whole argument that has been going on for DAYS is stupid and the lot of you should find better things to expend your energy on
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>>256821720
>>256821743
Because this is a children's game. This is pretty much Mulan. You need to do some serious mental gymnastics in order to think that they originally intended for Zelda to use magic to give herself a penis.
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>>256821720

Are you Miyamoto or Aonuma? No? then you have no say over the canon. If Nintendo wants Sheik to be a female, then she's a female. get over it
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>>256821743
Why doesn't she have a masculine voice?
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>>256821518
I forgot about that. That makes the manga version even stupider since in that Sheik interacts with Ganondorf. Why would you try to protect Zelda by putting her real personality to sleep and giving her one that actively works with the person she's trying to avoid?
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>>256821916
>>256822069
>>256822082
How is she going to hide her body when she bathe with Ganon's other troops?
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Why can't /v/ accept that Zelda/Sheik is a genderfluid queer?

Check your privilege.
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>>256821051
>Denying a canon manga as proof.
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>>256821746
>There is no reason that Zelda couldn't combine Sheiks training with her magic unless Sheik was an altered state of mind to ensure she wouldn't use magic.

She probably just chose not to in order to keep up the disguise. You never see Sheik fight in OOT anyway, she just plays songs, throws Deku Nuts, and saves Ruto in a way that isn't expanded upon.
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>>256813840
>haha, Tumblr is in denial, le Tumbl, Tumbl, TUmbl

no tumblr also gets it right sometimes, albeit rarely:
http://sheikgender.tumblr.com/
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>>256822247

But (s)he does. When Sheik is fighting the grunts are male.
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>>256822479
>You never see Sheik fight
Super Smash Bros.
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>>256822442
>manga
>canon

Anon...
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>>256822604
They sound female to me.
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>>256813762
I agree that shiek doesn't look a little bit like zelda. But somehow they are the same person according to nintendo. They probably changed that some time.
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>>256822616
Anon, read the rest of that sentence.
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>>256822769
He is talking about SSB
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>>256822604
Funny, because it's always the same female voice actor.
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>>256821916
>>256822069
This. There are literally billions of other things to do with your time. Yet here we are day after day arguing if Zelda used penis magic.
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>>256822604
They're not, Sheik is voiced by the same actress as Zelda.
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>>256822356
>genderfluid
I got some yellow genderfluid for you right here and It's non dairy
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This is the most autistic thread I've seen on /v/ in a while.

And yes, that includes R.O.B. threads.
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>>256822910
This. It's a "masculine" voice, but you can hear that it's a female putting it on.
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>>256822978
What happen in the R.O.B threads?
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>>256822892
>This. There are literally billions of other things to do with your time.
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>>256823126
Roleplaying with toys and shitposting that managed to somehow be more autistic than what the thread was about.
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>>256813840
>>Pro-male sheiks lost literally every thread that has been created today.
Why are there even multiple threads about this per day?
This is fucking shameful. This is /a/-tier shitposting at it's worst.
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>I WANT THIS FEMALE CHARACTER TO HAVE A DICK, I WANT IT WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT THE DIIIIIICK

So if most of you are so fucking le epic gaymer homos, why don't you just fantasize about Poison or some other character that actually has a dick instead of being so desperate for Sheik? Is it because this is a new bait? Do you just love to shitpost?

I'll never understand homos of /v/. That's why people call you "mentally ill", by the way. You people are a bunch of unstable pricks.
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Is this thread serious? Are we being raided by tumblr or [s4s]?

Wat?
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>>256822813

What about when Sheik is attacked by Bongo Bongo? That's clearly a male voice.
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>They say that contrary to her elegant image, Princess Zelda of Hyrule Castle is, in fact, a tomboy!
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>>256822910

And plenty of male anime characters are voiced by women, what's your poitn?
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Speaking of Sheik, I wish that they had executed Zelda getting caught after lowering her disguise better. The way they did it, there's no reason he couldn't have trapped Link in a crystal too.
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>>256823354
>Nintendo in charge of describing elegant refined blonde womanly princesses
What the fuck does tomboy even mean in Japan
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HOLY SHIT FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIE
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HW ZELDA NOT OOT ZELDA
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>>256823258
The warnings were there all along
Yet you choose to ignored them
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Sheik is a woman, just like Zelda, since they are one. The sperging will continue and the tears are delicious to anyone who thought otherwise.
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>>256823619
He was talking about Sheik in general. All Sheiks. Every time Sheik has appeared in a Zelda game. That is what he was talking about.
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>>256823619
This. The original Sheik in OoT is a male. But in the spin off non-canon titles like Smash and HW they bring back the character as a female for an homage.
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>>256823619
Prove it.
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>>256813762
magic
a costume is designed to mislead people
dressing up as a boy doesnt make you a boy.
Wearing a magic costume designed to mislead everyone is not the same.
>hurr she transformed not a costume
Thats why its magic.

Have you EVER seen sheik fight a bad guy?
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>>256823906
>Claim something
>Doesn't back it up with a source
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>>256823614
What do you think "contrary" means? That gossip stone is alluding to the idea that nobody would suspect that sort of thing based on her appearance.
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>>256823518

The master sword repels Ganon's spells. He'd break through the crystal easily.
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>>256823619
I CAN CAPS LOCK JUST AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND IT'S JUST AS MEANINGFUL
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>>256823614
Why can't Zelda be a tomboy?
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>>256823427
It's a very obvious sign that they intended for her to be female when she is voiced by Zelda, Her 'low voice' is exactly that of Zelda putting on a low voice - if they intended for her to actually sound masculine they would've got one of the male actors to do the grunts.

Almost everybody who doesn't see that Nintendo did not intend for her to have literally become male is a fucking retard. Their models and artwork are different to mislead, not out of an expressed will to have her actually become a man.
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>>256823764
There's really no way to know for sure. The game shows him as a male but an official Nintendo spokesperson threw out "female", so it's up in the air at this point. Both sides are "sperging" about it to annoy the others. It doesn't really matter.
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>>256823619
>Claim something
>Doesn't back it up with a source
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>>256824138
Ah, right.
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Consider the following:

The character of Sheik, invented by Zelda, is male. However, Sheik does not exist.

"Sheik", the person we see, is female, because she is Zelda.
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>>256824237
>The game shows him as a male
The game portrays Sheik as Zelda's disguise. And Zelda's a woman.
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>>256824210
>>256824109
Because she displays no "tomboy" traits, she's the picture of dignified grace the entire game.
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>>256824404

People get this, but there are people that are trying to argue Zelda used magic to grow a dick.
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>>256824010
She never turned into a boy. She never disguised her self as a boy, she disguised herself as someone people mistook for a boy.
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>>256824547
>displays no tomboy traits
She's fucking Sheik.
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Holy shit nobody is saying that Zelda is male or anything like that
We're saying that we're suppose to think that the Sheik persona is male because that is what Zelda intended & what Nintendo intended for us to think at first
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>>256824547
You met her all what 10 minutes? The time you're stabbing the shit out of Ganon doesn't count
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>>256824010
>Have you EVER seen sheik fight a bad guy?

uhhh... She got hes ass whipped by spirit bongo bongo just like link

Also pretty sure everyone can survive falling 100 feet in zelda. Link does it regularly

Shiek never does anything, I dont get how you fags think shes special
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>>256824848
Except some people are literally arguing Sheik had a dick
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>>256824572
She used magic to physically transform into a male costumed Sheikah ninja.
>but there are people that are trying to argue Zelda used magic to grow a dick.
No need to be crude about it, I find it ironic the "growing a dick" meme is catching on so persistantly the last few days and always used by people who SIMULTANIOUSLY complain about things they find "icky". Transformation is just a literary trope, it doesn't always have to be a wierd fetish, why can't you just take things at face value without reading into them and projecting it on your imaginary opponents.
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>>256824547
>Because she displays no "tomboy" traits, she's the picture of dignified grace the entire game.
That's why it's gossip. It's foreshadowing her being Sheik.
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>>256824572
Thats what I was saying.

People who are claiming she transformed her proportions and attained a boy bod are stupid. Its just a costume, not a boy bod at all. Magic is cool like that
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>>256825068
Look man, I'd love it if Zelda turned into a guy as Sheik, TG is my 2nd biggest fetish. The fact remains however that that just isn't what happened. And nothing is going to change that.
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>>256825068
You think Zelda grew a dick for a simple disguise. Stop being so perverted, Anon.
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>>256817586
Why would you think 4chan would get any less shitty?
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>>256824848
Did you read the thread? People are literally arguing that she used magic to make herself a bulge.
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>>256824987
So it's just an gossip stone that says an arbitrary character trait that doesn't match up with any depicted traits, it feels tacked on, indicitive of a japanese mentality toward "tomboys". That's just how it feel to me anyway.
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>>256825068
But Sheik doesn't look male.
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>>256824848
lol it's a disguise. That's like saying that Zelda putting on a hat and talking in a deeper voice constitutes a male persona.

And yes, people are saying that she literally had a penis when she turned into Sheik. Nobody gives a shit about whether she intended to pass herself off as male.
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>>256825068
>it doesn't always have to be a wierd fetish
The fact you're fighting so hard about thise despite Nintendo claiming the opposite says otherwise
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>>256824547
She snuck into the castles garden as a kid to spy on her dad.

Get out.
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>>256825530
That isn't tomboy
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>>256825461
Then you find out she's Sheik and it makes sense.
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>shiekfags getting BTFO every thread they make
>mfw
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>>256825649
That is tomboy behavior, Anon. Maybe you need to learn what it means.
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>>256825649
Its certainly not the image of your perfect princess either.
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I've missed every thread about this.

But I think it makes a lot of sense if magic could transform Zelda into a boy to hide herself.

I'm not talking about trans bullshit, but it's useful for hiding


This is a pretty retarded discussion.
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>>256823075
Its not even a masculine voice in ocarina of time, its the exact same voice clip as zelda and the gerudos
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>>256826103
When Nintendo made this game in the 90s for children I really don't think they actually put thought into how Zelda uses magic to give herself a penis.
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>>256825523
If Nintendo retcons a 15 year old game, it doesn't matter to my argument based on the events of the original game.

In fact I can turn it around, the fact that you guys keep making nonstop threads about "FINALLY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS NINTENDO SAYS I'M RIGHT SUCK IT FAGS" about some obsolete issue speaks to a different obsession.

I'm just saying it's blatant turnabout that you guys are the only one's bring up "dicks" and "cocks" and then blaming the other side. I remember reading many threads about it yesterday so don't try to deny it now.
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>>256821518
Underrated post
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>>256826237
Because it's a meaningless thought, really.

Only tumblr and tumblr-/v/ cares about it.

She just used magic to hide herself, not to become a boy because she wanted to be one or some shit like that.
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all these years and I thought this was just a meme to say sheik was a dude.

All these years I thought people were just pretending to be retarded.
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at first I thought this was trolling but REALLY? are people this retarded? Fuck zelda even reveals she is sheik in OOT She does not change her gender. This idea was born in the fucking mid 90s. Get fucked.
Stop being autistic spergs
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>>256827948
C'mon anon, no one is this stupid.
Surely they are just playing the long game, right?
...Right?
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>>256813762
the fire was there because they wanted you to fight the stalfos without programming an AI to assist you with mad skillz
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>Things that have been made better by a creator defining something after the fact:
>
>Things that have been made worse:
>Zelda
>Metal Gear
>Super Mario Galaxy
In terms of games, what am I missing?
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>>256823303
Sheik and Zelda have the same voice actor, it's a woman.
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>>256829760
>Super Mario Galaxy
What happen?
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>>256815507
>these arguments are so fucking retarded.
But they're just... simple game facts?

Sheik is a guy, face it or fuck off.
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Wait, this is a debate?
It's pretty fucking obvious it's just Zelda wearing a disguise.

She uses magic to change outfits because they wouldn't fucking animate her actually changing her outfit in a conventional way. Wouldn't even be possible on a N64.
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>>256813840
>>muscular chest you can't get by binding your tits
This.
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>>256829760
You sound mighty butthurt, tumblrfag.
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>>256813840
pro males are just into role reversal fetishes. they want to have shiek be a male for their sick fanfic sexual fetishes.
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>>256830339

Padded clothing.
It's not rocket science.
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>>256830339
>seven years to work out

How fat are you? Honestly.
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>>256830208
Cool, Sheik looks completely different and seems to be faster and stronger.

But let's just keep ignoring facts. Why not?
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>>256830178
yep. clearly everyone working at Nintendo, the company who made her, always referring to Sheik as a female are all wrong. Clearly the creator and producer of the Zelda series making sure she is cast by a female voice actor and being referred to as a she in Smash Bros and Hyrule Warriors are wrong.
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Personally, I always thought it was just Zelda in a costume, so yes a female. But Maybe she used some weird spell that changes her sex. But then again it doesn't matter. I don't really care and neither should you. Why do we need this thread 10 times a day? Are some of you trying to push an agenda or something?
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>>256830339
>muscular

What sort of fucking manlet thinks that is muscular?
Those are the muscles a girl has when she hasn't eaten properly.
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>>256830339
The model and artwork were created to mislead you. Anybody who actually uses them to argue that Sheik is physically male is just dumb: it's plain as day Nintendo intended for her to be Zelda in a costume.
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>>256830339
Sheik also has manly, big feet. Even bigger than Rutos although she has goddam fins.

>>256830601
Never saw Koizumi, the one responsible for story and characters, referring to Sheik as a girl. But yeah, keep shitposting.

Not that it would matter if anyone is referring to her as a girl... since, even though it's a male body, it's still Zelda behind all this... and Zelda is a girl.
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>>256830829
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>>256830975
Not-canon
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You are a hateful bunch.

I hope you all die in your sleep tonight.
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>>256830339
Post Zelda from OoT too. Most of the bitching about how different they are aren't really based on anything, since the art from OoT for Zelda has her having a masculine body anyways.
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>>256830975
Now some female LoZ feet.

>>256831009
Stop shitposting.
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>>256813973
nice bait but do know that isnt canon right
its like saying dragon ball gt is canon
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>>256813840
This x infinity.

Now have some Nintendo girl actually crossdressing, no brown skin, muscles, bigger framework and strength out of a sudden, just male clothes.
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>>256830829
>Even bigger than Rutos
They're not even the same species stupid
Put a Hylian girl
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>>256830339
Are you fucking stupid?

Link can fit an entire arsenal of weapon in his pocket but zelda someone who USES MAGIC cant fit her boobs into a magic costume made to mislead you into thinking shes a boy?

Its fucking magic you retard, just a costume to hide her identity.
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>>256829892
I might be misremembering, but the ending retcons the game, so Mario should have never met Rosalina, but she still shows up for whatever reason. Also Mario Kart 8 retconned young Rosalina's pink hair.

>>256830426
Shiek's gender has no influence on Zelda's appearance in that list. If you actually played Zelda games you'd know why it is listed.
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>>256831225
Officially approved, though. And I definitely consider it more canon than some interview translator guy...
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>>256831270
>Different series where a completely different set of people work on
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>>256830829
>Sheik also has manly, big feet.
>shoes dont exist in hyrule
Shut the fuck up. Links feet arent the size of the iron boots when he puts those on.

Its also a magic costume.
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>>256831293
You just went full retard.

Pretty much all action adventure/RPG dudes can fit all their stuff into a bag or something, be it Witcher, Final Fantasy or... whatever. It's a gameplay decision. A male chest is not.

Pro male Sheik people really have no credible arguments, it's awkward.
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>>256831436
>Officially approved
What does that have to do with oot's canon?
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>>256831436
So was draagon ball gt still doesnt make that shit canon
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>>256821415
Holy shit really?

Thats fucking hilarious.
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Let me ask you tumblrfags something: When has there ever been gender changing magic in the Zelda universe?

Changing clothes? Sure, just like in Wind Waker... but you degenerates are really grasping at straws for the sake of your porn and fanfics.
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>>256813762
fems need more strong wymyn in vidya!
N-NO! SHIEK IS A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE!
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>>256831609
That Aonuma even said himself he likes the mangas because they fill the gaps. You probably didn't notice it yet but it's all about indications, we can't debate with actual facts, we, none of us, knows if Sheik actually has a pussy or a penis. So we use what we have.
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>>256831602
>Pro male Sheik people
Wait he was Pro Male
I'm getting confused here
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>>256830975
>no bulge
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these are the female goodra threads of /v/
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>>256831786
>Let me ask you tumblrfags something: When has there ever been gender changing magic in the Zelda universe?
In OoT, Sheik.

There also are a lot of gay and fucking crazy characters in Zelda, it's not like gender bending would be too weird for Zelda.
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>>256831838
>because they fill the gaps
What gaps? Does Link actually have a history with Volvaga now? Does Dark Link fight in Kariko Village? What are you talking about?
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>>256831602
>Pro male Sheik people
Dude you just went full retard.
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>>256832003
When you except a bulge from a Nintendo game all help is lost.
>>256832083
>typo, maybe?
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>>256832041
Goodra?
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>>256832071
Fills in the gap that people want to get fuck by sheik penis
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>>256831118
You do know that's a child right? Perhaps 9 like young Link and Zelda?

Sheik is 16.
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Maybe someone can clear this up for me:

How does this argument actually matter in anything that isn't fanfiction or porn?
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>>256831910
>>256832083

I meant female, obv.
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>>256832262
>Posting Ghirahim
He is a sword. They confirm that Ghirahim & Fi don't have sex
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>>256830178
so why does the game say it's a girl?
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>>256832262
>typo, maybe?
Fine. Also why quote yourself.

>>256832402
She USES MAGIC.
She was taught by impa how to disguise herself. She can manifest fire and hide light arrows in her chest but she cant create a disguise?

Nah
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>>256832373
>A child
Oh wow Do Pro Male even play the games?
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>>256822442
but it isn't, it changes stuff like Volgavia's origin
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>>256813973
I find it funny how a manga is considered not canon or canon based on convenience. OoT manga is canon because people infer that sheik has a dick, yet the Metroid manga which delves into Samus' backstory and personality is not canon because she has PTSD.
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>>256832053
>In OoT, Sheik.
Nope. Sheik was Zelda in disguise all along! She confirmed it late in the game, and it was even confirmed by Nintendo!
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>>256832053
Sheik is just a disguise
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>>256832373
>>256832578
The question is do YOU pro femaler retards even play the game? Left is actually Cremia but it's the same model.

I don't even know why people and I still reply, you guys are so fucking clueless and can't accept the most simple facts.
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>>256816314
>there is nothing wrong with degeneracy

go home tumblr, your raid was over a month ago and ended with /b/ triggering your friends into suicide why are you still here
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>>256832738
The manga is non-canon because Other M contradicts it
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>"The definitive answer is that Sheik is a woman — simply Zelda in a different outfit."
-Bill Trinen
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>>256832759
It was not confirmed by Nintendo, though!
And Zelda was disguised, this is true!
But she was disguised as man actually using a man's body, read the first post in this tread!
You can literally see how he transforms into Zelda, he doesn't undress, he doesn't get rid of his "breast bandage", he simply transforms into Zelda, an actual woman, using magic!
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>>256832960
That's only for Hyrule Warriors.
In the original game he's a male.
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>>256833062
Quit being literally retarded, thanks.
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>>256832738
Different fanbases
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>>256833062
Says who?
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>>256833028
>he simply transforms into Zelda, an actual woman, using magic!
>transforming your entire body into another person is more believable than using magic to just create a simple disguise

See the problem in this thread?
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>>256832881
rekt

Now let's end this, this is getting sad. Sheik is a guy and everyone is happy.
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>>256813762
NINTENDO FUCKING TOLD YOU THAT SHE IS FEMALE WHY YOU KEEP DOING THIS THREADS?
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>>256832669
I never liked all the changes thy made in the manga. Like, MM's manga changed the Happy Mask Salesman into some kind of demon instead of some weird but helpful guy.

As for shit being canon, when piglike and bald did their comic for skyward sword Nintendo was super strict on how Link was depicted, in ways that was allowed in the mangas, so I dunno. They seem to just be going off the games.
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>>256813840
>promale shiek arguments
>I'm gay so I want shiek to have a dick

>profemale shiek arguments
>Nintendo said shiek is female so shiek is female

Ftfy
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>>256833091
>>256833113
I'm just clarifying this so you guys don't get confused and try to use it as evidence to proove your point.
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>>256833028
It's a magical disguise. She is female.
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http://mynintendonews.com/2014/08/05/nintendos-bill-trinen-clarifies-that-sheik-is-female/
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>>256832960
Hyrule Warriors. And Bill isn't Koizumi, it doesn't matter what he has to say, it's just a fucking interview translator guy.

>>256833113
The fact that the whole interview is about Hyrule Warriors. Hell, I'm sure he wouldn't even have PERMISSION to answer such a big question about the entire Zelda series in general. If you believe this, you're fucking retarded.
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>>256833137
>See the problem in this thread?
Do you? It's magic, it's not "believable" at all.
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>Unveils disguise in OOT right in front of you
>Transforms between Zelda and Sheik in Melee and Brawl
>Confirmed Zelda in a different outfit in HW

If you think Sheik is a male you are a dumb ass, plain and simple.
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>>256833140
>sarashi
>guy
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>>256832881
>Left is actually Cremia
Stop digging yourself deeper
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>>256832881
>but it's the same model

That means its also malon.
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>>256833243
I know it's a magical disguise, that doesn't change it's a completely different body, a male body.

Troll harder.
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>>256832827
>>256832759

A disguise performed VIA magic.

Had you actually played the game, you would know this.

Hell, both characters have an entirely different BMI FFS, and Sheik is referred to as Male in-game.
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>>256821518
Why do "the manga says Sheik is male"-fags ignore this?
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>>256833143
Because faggots are annallyannihilated and can't accept that Nintendo disproved their headcanon
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>>256833291
>Koizumi
I don't know what he got to do with anything
Koizumi doesn't own Sheik Nintendo does
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>>256833140
>clear visual of chest wrapping holding down breasts

man you're a sad faggot
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>>256833140
More like you're getting sad.

Sheik is a woman, and has always been a woman.
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>>256833447
Exactly. And she has tiny as fuck feet in the official artworks. Because she's an actual woman. Japan is pretty precice when it comes too feet and male/female.

>>256833390
Stop shitposting and being clueless about things you want to discuss.
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>>256833232
Where does Nintendo say Sheik is a guy, in OOT?
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>>256833501

Link is obviously bi-sexual though
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>>256833447
That is her mother
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>>256833291
>he wouldn't even have PERMISSION

I don't think Sheik's gender is a heavily guarded secret at Nintendo, anon. I don't think anyone there cares about it.
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>>256833447
Those feet look plenty big to me.
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>>256833534
He wrote the story together with Miyamoto, retard.

Okay, this is getting too stupid. Bye.
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Guys. You literally watch Sheik transform back into Zelda. Sheik is Zelda in disguise. She doesn't stop being Zelda and become some different fucking person who's a different fucking gender. She's Zelda. In a disguise.

That is literally what Sheik is.

Sheik. Is. A. Disguise. For. Zelda.

Zelda is female.

Is this going in yet, or...?
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>>256833275
>http://mynintendonews.com/2014/08/05/nintendos-bill-trinen-clarifies-that-sheik-is-female

Bill Trinen sounds like a nintendo management guy who isnt really that interested in the canon of zelda
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>>256833291
>Nintendo says it
>DOESN'T COUNT
Why do I expect you'd be all over if he'd said "Sheik is male"?
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>>256833747
>Bye.

I win.
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>>256833648
Yes.
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>>256833625
>And she has tiny as fuck feet in the official artworks
They're about the same size
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>>256833625
>shoes dont exist
You dont know how big shieks feet are shut the fuck up.

Its a disguise. Its suppose to make you LOOK different. Not become another person.

Putting on a dress and stuffing a bra doesnt make me a girl.
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>>256833648

Princess Ruto says it

>>256833759
Play the game, fucker. A magical transformation is preformed. It's not a simple change of clothes.
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>>256833569
Yeah, I bet she has breasts on her arms too.
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>>256833759
It's a magical disguise of a male.
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>>256833780
He's head of Treehouse, the NOA localisation team.
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>>256833851
>Putting on a dress and stuffing a bra doesnt make me a girl.
It will to me
;3
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>>256833747
So? He was on the side if anything Shiggy would be the one who has the last word in this.
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>>256833480
no she isn't
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>>256833918
>Princess Ruto says it

Because Ruto is FOOLED BY THE DISGUISE.

That's what disguises do, you fucking idiot.
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Sheik is male, the body he inhabits is female.

You now understand the trouble that somebody like me with gender dysmorphia feels.
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>>256833847
Yes, if you are mentally retarded. Then yes.

>>256833851
Zelda doesn't need bigger shoes when she can just make her whole body bigger/male, retard.
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>>256833780
You sound like a faggot who wants shiek to have a dick so you can fap to her. Its OK, you can just draw futa of her, faggots like you like that shit, right?
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>>256834013
oh stahp
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>>256833459
It is NOT a male body. That's conjecture.
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>>256834039
>no she isn't

Yes he is. Play the game before you try talking about it.
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>>256833918
>Princess Ruto says it
Because she doesn't know it's a disguise, because it's supposed to fool people retard.
Now Link me to some source were NINTENDO said Sheik is male.
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>>256833918
>Princess Ruto says it
Holy shit is this really what you fags consider "proof"
This is getting more pathetic than I thought
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>>256833480
Sheik's model appears ambiguously male to mislead you. She is referred to as a male by Ruto because the disguise is working. Nintendo did not intend for Zelda's magical disguise to turn her into an actual dude (magic is a convenient shortcut for instant on/off disguise), and we hear her use female voice clips when she is attacked at the well.
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>>256833920
So i guess these people are males also huh
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>>256834106
>Zelda doesn't need bigger shoes when she can just make her whole body bigger/male, retard.
see
>>256833137
Just stop.
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>>256833459
I know Sheik is a guy, it's just fun to troll and get people riled up. They do it so easily.
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>>256813762
>>256813840
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>>256813840
I don't even care about all this Zelda shit, I played OoT and I liked it but I never cared too much. This post makes it very believablet hat Sheik is male, though. Why so many people fight it?
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>>256833918
>Princess Ruto says it
And here we go.
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>>256833790
No, where in OOT does Nintendo state flat out "Sheik is male"?
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>The persona Zelda adopted to escape from Ganondorf. She completely hid all traces of her Zelda identity and appeared to Link as the last member of the Sheikah tribe. She taught Link essential ocarina melodies and then vanished in an instant. She didn't appear very often—rather, she would show up to support Link in crucial situations.

Smash Trophy.

Shut the fuck up.
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>>256834246
>She is referred to as a male by Ruto because the disguise is working
Or Ruto didn't want to spoil who Sheik really is
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Ya'll dick obsessed faggots are retarded.
It's been confirmed already that it's Zelda in a disguise, not a magical dick-growing transformation.

Now quit whining ya tranny faggots
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>>256821518
Zelda's Sheik form is an illusion.

That's all there is too it.

Even still there's bandages and pads used to give her a male form appearance.

I wish SJW and faggots weren't stupid and would pay attention to history class, or even read up history at all.
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I was waiting for tumblr to settle after reddit it was only a matter of time
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>>256834246
>we hear her use female voice clips when she is attacked at the well.

Link technically uses female voice clips too, since his VA is a female in a lot of incarnations.

Does this mean link is actually a female in a male disguise?
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>>256833920
>black fingernails
Why
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>>256834353
Because she isnt and its been confirmed by nintendo but /v/-tumblr cant deal with loosing that
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Zelda disguises herself as a hot young man. If she goes that far can you really say she doesn't grow a nice penis?
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>>256833918
Ruto was mistaken.
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>>256834275
They certainly look like it.
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>>256834436
>Smash
>canon
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>>256834436
Weren't all the Sheikah female, like the Gerudo?
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>>256833480
>Sheik is referred to as Male in-game.
So you mean Zelda's disguise was a success?

>A disguise performed VIA magic.
there is no gender changing magic in the Zelda universe.

>Had you actually played the game, you would know this.
Had you finished the game, Zelda herself would reveal to you it was her in disguise the entire time.
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>>256813840
I wish female Sheik fags would at least MAKE UP their minds. Once they admit that Sheik's body is completely different and are all like "y-yes... Sheik has a different body and is bigger... but that doesn't mean he, ah, I mean't she, has a dick." And then they're like "hah, it's not a different body, all your facts are lies, look, she even binds her breasts!"

It makes this whole debate unnecessary difficult. ;_;
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>>256833918
>A magical transformation is preformed. It's not a simple change of clothes.
So your saying zelda cant change clothes with magic but she can transform her body into a completely new one?

Shut the fuck up.
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Only people saying sheik is male are faggots and trolls
and both are degenerate scum with mental issues.
ignore and report
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>>256834197
She*>>256834197
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Navi says he. Therefore male.

/thread
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>>256813762
>confirmed grill
take your faggotry elsewhere

like to hell
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>>256834606
Bullshit since they need to reproduce, you know? And Dodongo is actually considered a Sheikah in Ocarina lore.
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>>256834596
SSBM in Japanese uses male pronouns for Sheik
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>>256823241

I'm no homo, but I'm sure the Ocarina of Time Sheik was a dude. The concept art says it all.
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What this question really comes down to is:
Are Sheik and Zelda the same person?

Yes - female.
No - male.
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>>256834527
This is literally the entire argument and motive of the male shiek faggots
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>>256834635
>And then they're like "hah, it's not a different body, all your facts are lies, look, she even binds her breasts!"
Only retards are saying that.

The level headed people realize zelda created a magic disguise. Nothing more.

the retards cant deal with losing male shiek
>hurr she used magic to transform
>no she never could possibly use magic to create a disguise
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>It's 1998
>Miyamoto is working on his last Zelda game
>He decides to make a twist in the story reveling the mysterious guy giving you info is actually Zelda
>"But how do we stop the players from discovering it's actually Zelda Myamoto-sama?"
>"Use Rink model you mutherfucka"
>"Sasuga Miyamoto-sama!"
The innocence of this man, who could have seen that almost twenty years later deviants would try to cling to the disguise because it appeals to their fucked up fetish.
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>>256834635
They're probably 12 year old, let them be.
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>>256834353
because it's not true
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>>256834627
>So you mean Zelda's disguise was a success?
Zelda's disguise that transforms her into a biological male, yes

>there is no gender changing magic in the Zelda universe.
Sheik

>Had you finished the game, Zelda herself would reveal to you it was her in disguise the entire time.
Had you finished the game, you would see that it's a transformation performed via magic.

Sheik isn't like Peter Parker. Its not a simple change of clothes. A change of outfit wont change the entire dimensions and BMI of your entire body.
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>>256834803
>Japanese
>gender pronouns

this f*cking kid...
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>>256834606
I don't know actually, their lore has never been expanded upon much.
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>>256834431
It's obvious.
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>>256834506
Sheik has Zelda's voice actress
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>>256834527
Read again your post and you will see the bullshit in this, you are fighting over a fetish.
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>>256834506
Do you really not understand why it's not the same? A woman voicing a prepubescent boy is normal. Sheik is supposedly a grown man, at least as old as Link, but has the same actress as Zelda. It's a very fucking deliberate decision but Sheik is a woman.
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>>256834841

They clearly aren't quite the same. When Sheik turned back into Zelda she suddenly became helpless and near-handicapped. Personality also changed as well.
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You know how about you write to nintedo japan and ask for clarification
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>>256813762
Why do we need this thread 10 times a day?
Nintendo already confirmed the obvious, Shiek being female.
As if her being Zelda in disguise wasn't enough of a hint.
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>>256834791
The Gerudo kidnap and rape Hylian men to propagate their race, the Sheikah if they were all female would probably take Hylian men too.
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>>256834904
And when you even go this far admitting it's a different, stronger body and Zelda actually wants people to believe she's a male, why can't you not ALSO at least TOLErATE that it's probably the case she goes full male? It's so simple.
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>>256834938
>A change of outfit wont change the entire dimensions and BMI of your entire body
shut the fuck up.

see
>>256834904
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>>256834635
The fact is Sheik is Zelda using magic to alter her appearance slightly, and costuming to alter the rest. She is still female.
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Shiek uses the same pain noises in OoT that the Gerudo do.
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loook im a male now
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What I don't get is what does tumblr have to do with any of this?
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Guys, Sheik isn't male, Sheik doesn't have a gender because Sheik is just a disguise, Sheik isn't real


She disguised as a man, so nobody would guess it's her, that doesn't make Sheik male, it's still just a disguise and actually a woman underneath it, maybe using magic to make her look more like a man, but never actually a man
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>>256834627
>there is no gender changing magic in the Zelda universe.
Apparently there is, because Zelda uses it to change into Sheik.
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>>256834635
>muh out of date concept art

kekel
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>>256835041
>she suddenly became helpless and near-handicapped
You mean like how she was trap in the cystal and had no mean of escape?
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>>256819508
>name ONE instance in games/shows/movies/etc where a physical gender swap is needed to disguise someone as the opposite gender, rather than simply dressing yourself differently.

Venture bros does it.
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>>256834845

I'm just trying to look at it from an all powerful wizard queen's perspective. If she could she most likely would give herself a dick at some point, this is Zelda we're talking about. She's a trickster that likes to play games when she's not doing royal shit.
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>>256833501
Because it proves them wrong.
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Right, I'll make this nice and simple for you all.

If I, a big-ass hairy man, put on a Sailor Moon outfit, does the character of Sailor Moon magically become male?

No. No she does not. But I do not, by the same token, magically become female either.

Zelda made up the character of 'Sheik' as a disguise. 'Sheik' as a concept, as a character that was invented BY Zelda, is male. She wants people to think Sheik is a dude, and they do.

Zelda, while dressed AS Sheik, is still female. Just because she's playing the part of a male character (that she, herself, made up), does not magically make her a man.

TL:DR - The character of 'Sheik' is male. Zelda playing Sheik is still female.
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>>256813840
This escalated quickly.

/thread

/teammale
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>>256835118

That post just aggressively agrees with what I said.
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>>256834717
Cos Navi knows anything
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>>256835116
Nintendo already confirmed it.

Also stop acting like zelda cant work out and train to learn how to jump.
>hurr shiek stronger than zelda
How about some proof? The only time shes ever confronted she gets her shit slapped by spirit bongo bongo.
>hurr she can jump 100 feet
And link can jump off of death mountain.
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>>256835228
Tumblr is fighting Nintendo that Sheik is infact genderfluid
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>>256835216
>that stomach

what the fuck
someone ban this sick cunt
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>>256834938
>I'm going to ignore facts
Inb4 twas merely a ruse
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Is Ganondorf a woman?
Look at the facts people
>girly earrings
>nail polish
>big jewels
>elaborate hair pieces
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>>256835238
How do you know it makes her into a man?
We're talking about someone with bandages around her chest, why would she need that if she turned into a man.
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>>256834832
it's a girl disguised as a guy
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>>256835250

No, I mean after that. All she was able to do was use magic and open doors. No cool ninja shit or anything remarkable useful in the greatest battle of their time.
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why is sheik wearing the bondage tape around her chest? to tie down the breasts, you fucking retarded autistic retards
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>>256835095
Women can't rape, if anything they allow themselves to become raped by captives as a service to Lord Ganon's patriarchy.
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>>256835390
Wait what. I thought Sheik was just a really good magical disguise but otherwise its still Zelda.
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>>256834717
Nintendo said female, you cockgobbling faggot
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>>256834635
And here we have the breast binding retards again: >>256835281
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>>256835412
>Entire species if female
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>>256835008
That's not an answer. Where does it state Sheik is male?
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>>256834938
All I see in the transformation scene is a clothing change. Nothing at all to suggest the disappearance of a penis that was never there.
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>>256835026

Maybe Zelda is more perverted than you thought.
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>>256835412
If a man grows up in a women only country then why wouldn't it make sense that he has a little bit of a feminine side
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>>256835481
>All she was able to do was use magic and open doors
That was the only way you escape shit lord
Without her doing that Link would have been crushed under the Tower
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Sheik is female because Sheik is Zelda. I thought that was the end of it, but no, fans HAVE to debate for years because they just HAVE to know what porn is more canon than the rest or some shit. This is just dumb.
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>>256835116
>probably the case
That's the problem. No where is it ever suggested that she literally became a man, except in fanart and fanon.
If that happened, the games or creators would say so.
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>>256835464
Using magic and a male body, yes. You can't fool Ganondorf with mere clothes.

Done.
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>>256835534
They're 3D polygon models from the Nintendo 64, you fucking idiot. They don't exactly have the graphical fidelity to show exactly how this shit worked.
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>>256835534
>confusing hair with face
holy retard
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>>256835281
What if you used magic to transform into a cute girl?

Maybe you'd say "B-but I am still a man, why does onii-san ganbare my kokoro go doki doki shiteuru deska?"
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>>256835534
Stop using outdated model and show the remake
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I always assumed she used magic
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>>256835238
it's a disguise, not a gender change
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>>256835649
Yeah just look a Sweden and those tranny elementary schools. Even the captcha agrees
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>>256813840
Well Everyone that actually works for Nintendo says Sheik is female. It's been said multiple times, and you just ignore it. You're opinion doesn't change that Sheik was always clearly female.

>>256813973
>manga
>canon

>>256832957
And every Zelda game contradicts its respective manga. But hey, you can keep on hanging out in denial.
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>>256835534
>same hands

It's like they say - you can always tell a tranny by their hands.

Thanks for proving Sheik is female.
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>>256835503

There aren't any breasts there though. Like at all.
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>>256835439
Who knows, maybe it's part of the ninja outfit.
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>>256834909
You know what is sad? Only this nigger can end this, but he doesn't speak English and he will never learn that this is a "thing" since Nintendo will never bother him with such stupid shit.
Yet I feel that even if Shiggy said Sheik is female this idiots will do mental gymnastic and pass his authority.
You did it Shiggy, godspeed you wonderful bastard.
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>>256835594

So, you don't see:
>different skin
>different eyes
>different eye color
>different eyebrows
>different hair
>bigger feet
>flatass
>muscular chest you can't get by binding your tits
>bigger framework in general

Just read >>256813840
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>>256835679
Doesn't change Sheik saved Ruto from monsters, kept an eye on Kakariko, jumped off a 100 feet rock in the desert, could move so fast Link didn't see him escaping and more. At the end Zelda is slower than a grandma and is hiding behind fire instead of helping Link. She can't even distract the goddam enemies or something.
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>>256835753
>>256835753
that's why she hides from Ganondorf too
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>>256835679

It's canon that Link can survive literally any height, so even that was useless to do.
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>>256835534
>saggy shirt
Just like how kid zelda has boobs right?
She was always flat chested just like how link is feminine.
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>Using a disguise is now the same as changing your gender
So Bugs Bunny identifies as genderfluid now?

>>256834909
>>256835939
Ignorance is bliss. Imagine how fucked up the present would be if 50 years ago this conversation was being had. Imagine how fucked up the future is GOING to be. I can see it now
>boy picks up something pink
>MY SON IS GENDERFLUID AND PROGRESSIVE START THE HORMONE TREATMENTS
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>>256835856
It's a magical disguise that includes the sex change, you can tell because she uses magic to instantly transform back into Zelda.
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>>256835795
Not really. Check out the pic in OP.

Goddammit, female Sheik tards are retarded and difficult. You guys should be very, very thankful some of us are even replying to you.
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>>256834803
>Japanese
>pronouns
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People want to believe that Sheik has a penis.

That is literally how gay this thread is.
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>>256835915
>Well Everyone that actually works for Nintendo says Sheik is female.

They talk like spokespersons and have no controversial opinions.
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So wait.

Its okay for zelda to use some crazy advanced magic to transform her entire being into another person, but its impossible to use crazy advanced magic to make a disguise?

I don get it.
How could shiek be male if shiek is zelda.

Like this guy said
>>256833851
>Putting on a dress and stuffing a bra doesnt make me a girl.
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>this whole fucking thread
Why is it so hard to accept that sheik is a girl?
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>>256835729
Why cant we have both
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http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/characters/Legend-of-Zelda/Sheik/

Checkmate?
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>>256836030
What are you even trying to say here? We already debunked this breast binding bullshit like 100 threads ago. Breast binding doesn't give you such a defined chest, check out the official OoT artwork.
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>>256817586
But she isn't a dude, Nintendo said so.
You know, the people who created her?

No amount of your gay crying will change it either.
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>>256835942
bulge?
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>>256836316
I'm saying she never had tits to begin with.
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>>256836185
>Goddammit, female Sheik tards are retarded and difficult. You guys should be very, very thankful some of us are even replying to you.
This so much.

>>256836278
Because everything in the game speaks against it, I guess. Don't even come up with more pointless arguments, I'm bored by them.
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>>256836313
Link confirmed for female.
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This all comes down to whether or not you think that, when using magic to change her appearance, Zelda bothered to make a dong.

That is literally what you're arguing over. A fictional character's decision to give her own fictional character a magical penis.

Fucks sake.
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>>256836174
who says the magic was a gender change?
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>>256817586
there is only one board that faps to dicks more then /v/
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>>256834635
how about this how about nintendo never put any thought into it just like they do with alot of there zelda products or anything in general other then THE FUCKING GAMEPLAY
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>>256836316
>Breast binding doesn't give you such a defined chest.
This is fiction, breast binding has featured in a lot of reverse-trap stories in japan.
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>>256836337

Nintendo would probably also say that Birdo was a girl too if you asked them.

Nintendo isn't beyond gender-bending, and OoT would not have been the only game they made that had this.
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Calm down she was probably just wearing one of these
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>>256836490
You can tell just by looking.
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>>256813840
/thread +1
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>>256836278

autism and fanboism collide anon,thats when those people crawl out of their holes
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>>256836608
Where is her bulge then?
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>>256836316
But if it's NOT breast binding, why are there bandages all over the chest. On top of that, starting breast binding before you even get breasts will probably prove more effective than breast binding when you already have them.
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>>256836174

Exactly, she doesn't pull the bandages away and the tits erupt from within. She magically switches from a male body to her normal one.
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>>256836443
>Because everything in the game speaks against it, I guess.
I guess her disguise worked? Wasn't that the intention? It would be stupid if people said "that sheik is totally a girl in disguise"
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>>256835481
Because Link (hint hint - the player) is the main character.
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>>256836584
And a fake leather face? She isn't wearing anything, she transforms and uses nothing but magic. Play the game.
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>>256836738
>>256836613

read it,faggot
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>>256822442
>manga
>canon

except it's not
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>>256836816
It's a joke retard.
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>arguing about the sex of a minor character from a game that was released a decade ago
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>people arguing about a twist in a video game that came out 16 years ago.
>Twist was proven in said game
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>>256836574
>Nintendo would probably also say that Birdo was a girl too if you asked them
And if they says so guess what faggot? Birdo would be a girl. It's their IP they can say what ever the fuck they want and it will be canon.
Until Nintendo comes out and say Sheik is a male come and shitpost on /v/, otherwise stay in your delusions.
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>>256836316
Does Sheik also have breasts on his fingers?
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>>256836313
http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Super-Smash-Bros-for-Wii-U-and-3DS/

game and watch confirmed for smash
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>>256836276
>mfw male shiekfags cant handle getting btfo
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>>256835972
Its not like anything in oot even attack more then one at a time
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and now Nintendo made sheik a female

how about everyone stops freaking the fuck out about it because it's really not a big deal you goddamn autists.
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>>256836258
And? Being wrong isn't a controversial opinion, it's getting facts wrong. You don't have an opinion on a character's confirmed gender.

>Bridget is actually a girl in Gulity Gear. Look at the signs! It's my opinion!
No, you're fucking wrong.
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>>256836316

>small, thin arms and legs
>bullet stopping "pecs"

Unless Shiek just does flys 24/7, malefags BTFO
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>>256813840
>>b-but my interview translator guy, a-and my non-canon Tecmo shit (which is actually another proof that Ocarina of Time Sheik is male since Sheik in Hyrule Warriors is female and looks exactly like Zelda, whereas Ocarina of Time Sheik doesn't look like Zelda, see above)
I like this argument, actually. Pretty straight. In HW Sheik looks female because she is female, in OoT Sheik looks different, not like Zelda, not really female... most definitly because he isn't.
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> Zelda bothered to make a dong.

This was a joke like what 15 years ago?
I guess Neo/v/ has rediscovered an old classic.
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So zelda makes a magical disguise.

What's the argument here?
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>>256836717

Excuse me sir, please look at the rest of Shiek's clothing. HE IS COVERED IN BANDAGES. Fighters wear bandages to protect their joints and to seal in protective medicinal creams.
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>>256836276
Someone link the video of the Asian guy that looks almost exactly like a girl.
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>>256837161
The argument is whether she fashioned a penis.

Purists believe that Sheik is fully female, as Zelda would not have seen a penis before.
Degenerates hope that Sheik is some futa monster.
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>>256837130
there is a reason people still talk about oot compared to other shit i guess
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>>256837161
Because dicks.
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>>256837161

your faggot
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>>256835942
It's like you've never watched a teen movie. Classic tomboy/nerd gets a makeover and becomes homecoming queen.
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>>256833920
Like I said, you're a sad faggot.

Read up on history.
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For all you know, Sheik's clothes are a part of their body and can't be removed, resulting in a complete lack of sexual characteristics. Magic in the Zelda universe is extremely loosely defined, so the writers can do whatever the fuck they want.

This argument is completely pointless anyway because some people are going to draw Sheik with a dick and some are going to draw Sheik with a vagina no matter what Nintendo says.
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>>256837279
You know there is no way of telling this, right? None of the characters say "I saw sheik's penis"
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>>256837161
People cant fathom the difference between a disguise and transforming your entire body into a new person.

Retards believe shiek is a different person
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>>256837279
PENIS != MALE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
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surely these threads are a new breed of bait.

zelda is a girl
impa teaches zelda about becoming sheik
zelda dresses up as sheik after training with impa
sheik is zelda
zelda is still a girl
sheik is therefore a girl
sheik is literally zelda
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You just got a christian-approved answer by NOA that has nothing to do with the actual game writters and developers.
Sheik is male, Zelda genderbents into Sheik, this is common knowledge and nothing special or weird in Japan.
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>>256837463
Yes it is
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>>256837463
Now you are trying too hard.
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>>256837496
I didn't even know this was subject to debate. me and my friends always just knew it was the same character.
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>>256837496
>zelda dresses up as sheik
As well as using magic to change into a male with different physical characteristics.
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>>256837184
Someone should tell...... every fighter in history.

Because apparently they've been doing it wrong.
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>>256837568
More like she wraps her chest and female parts with bandages and padding to look male.
This is nothing special or weird in japan mind you.
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>>256837620
Wait so the only argument is whether or not Zelda made a magical penis or not? How the fuck are you supposed to argue for or against this? It's written nowhere in game
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>>256837620
Hey you.
Listen!
>>256836276
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>>256837772
Well you can't really argue against it, I'll admit.
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>>256813762

So has anyone redrawn the scene where Volgin grabs snakes dick to discover his identity with Gannon and Sheik? Because seriously that scenario is the only fucking reason Zelda would need to give herself a dick.
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>>256837620
If she can change herself to look male she wouldn't fucking wear bandages and hide her face.
Go back to tumblr
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>>256837342
Thats' the point. It's an illusion. She can do a little Sailor Moon spin in and out of it in Smash for a reason.

That reason wasn't enough for SJW/faggots to understand though.

In any case, magic doesn't need to be defined to know that this could be pulled off without it.
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>faggots who think Shiek was female

I bet you fuckers probably don't even think Ridley is going to be in smash. Delusional.
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I think you're all missing the most important question.

Would you suck it?
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>>256837919
You can't argue it at all. There's no basis or hint for it. It's all speculation and opinions.
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>>256838007
Yes but it wouldn't be canon
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this is what pure autism looks like

look on ye mighty and despair
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>>256837919
2/10
Fuck off. You're not even arguing
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>>256837859
Are you trying to say that somehow impractical to do a magic A but more practical to do a magic B? That's arbitrary and trivial because it's "magic". Furthermore it's a genre convention, easily understood in the context of literary tropes.
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>>256837943

god damn it anon, I lauged more than I should have
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>>256838036
It's not, all the evidence is here >>256813840, meanwhile YOUR kind is the one who say Sheik is female based on pure speculation and opinions.
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>>256837960
Maybe that's the standard Sheikah costume? Who knows.
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>>256837084
Binding will do that to your chest. Besides it's a disguise. If you look at the rest of your fucking pictures, you'd see that Sheik has a clearly female figure.

And that "translator guy" is not only the personal translator for Miyamoto and Aonuma, but the head translator for Nintendo. If he said it, it's because one of those two said it first. And Aonuma has said it.

>b-but muh man chest
You should look up some picture of female chest binding. It gives that exact shape.

>b-but muh hands are the same fucking size, stop making shit up and then posting pictures that prove yourself wrong.

>oh! B-but muh manga
Contradicts all the games, and is non-canon.
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>you will never canonically suck Zelda's magic dick

thanks nintendo
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>>256838224
>That's arbitrary and trivial because it's "magic"
>this entire thread
Then shut the fuck up and deal with nintendos decision to have her be female.
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>>256820076
>>256820409
The terms "male" and "female" refer to sex, a scientific term that concerns what chromosomes the person has; it is not the same as gender, which is a language term. No matter what you claim to identify as, and no matter how your language works, you cannot change or decide your sex. If you were born with XY chromosomes then you are a male and always will be, and vice versa. Please, for the love of fuck, will you at least try to learn the argument you're baiting with before you construct such a garbage shitpost?
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>>256838036
It's apparent when taking the game at face value without reading into it.
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>>256838373
You still can if you believe.
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>>256820076
Except Zelda never did the whole Sheik thing because she wanted but because it was necessary to not being captured idiot.
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>>256838402
and here... we... go
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>>256838163
>Some company guy says something wrong.
>Anon A: "He's wrong."
>Anon B: "NUH UH! Business man saya Sheik girl, so sheik girl!
>Anon A: "Sigh... Alright, look, here's proof he's wrong."
>You: "AUTISM FOLK"
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>>256838480
>taking the game at face value without reading into it

Doing that its just a simple disguise. Shiek is a girl same as zelda.
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>>256838380
But it's just a pat answer from a executive. If anything it's just a safe retcon for the new game.
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>>256838630
>proof

Still yet to see this proof. All we've had is conjecture.
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