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Nintendo's indie guy Dan Adelman has left the company

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>We already knew that things weren't so hot between Nintendo and its indie guy Dan Adelman, but now Adelman has confirmed that he has left the company after nine years.

>Adelman was banned from posting on Twitter by Nintendo last year, after he spoke ill of the company's region locking exploits. Now Adelman has told Kotaku that he left Nintendo last Friday.

>The industry veteran says that he was frustrated with Nintendo's acts to clamp down on actions that did not gel with its corporate message, such as the banning of his Twitter account.

>"I think people were kind of on pins and needles about anything untoward I might say," he noted. "And every once in a while, I'd give an answer that people didn't like, and some people would freak out, so they tried to scale things back. First they had me do interviews with someone from PR or marketing. Later they just decided that I shouldn't be in the press at all anymore."

>"I had been strongly encouraged to stay off of Twitter — or at least say only things that were clearly safe — so after the region-locking comment they just said I needed to stop completely," he added. "When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name. I thought that was about the worst idea I'd ever heard, so I left it as is and let the silence speak for itself."

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/222509/Nintendos_indie_guy_Dan_Adelman_has_left_the_company.php
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Condense your threads please
>>256320216
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>>256320679
Literally who?
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>indie guy Dan Adelman

Who?
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The tweet(s) that caused NOA to revoke Adleman's Twitter account.
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>Nintendo
>Indie guy

A person who doesn't exist lost a job that doesn't exist?
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don't care, won't care.
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>>256321268
this tweet is barely speaking bad about the region locking in the first place. glad to see nintendo is so open to criticism!
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LITERALLY who?
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>>256321615
An indie PR guy from what I gather.
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>>256320679
>get told about how unhealthy his tie with social media his
>first thing he does once "free" from nintendo is lashing on said social media, to get the approval of his followers.

Can't really clap for that, he put that shit over hiself. Get ready for the next phil fish project incoming.
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What games has he made?

Did he actually quit working for nintendo because they wouldn't let him post on twitter. What a fucking beta faggot.
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>>256321705
>employer literally suggests having someone use your identity that isn't you
yeah that's nothing to get upset about
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so he was just some guy paid to tweet or something?
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>>256321815
>expecting any company to let you say whatever you want about them on social media

Fucking McDonalds does the same shit. This guy isn't exactly all that innocent either.
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>>256321873
His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms, similar to Shahid Ahmad for Sony, or Chris Charla for Microsoft.
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>>256322092
see
>>256321268
he wasn't exactly saying NINTENDO IS THE DEVIL FOR REGIONLOCKING ALL THESE GAMES BOYCOTT THEM
jesus fuck, I can't believe people are defending this shit
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>>256322116
Oh, but he didn't make any games?
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>>256322116
literally no one.
I can do this job and better.
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>>256322116
So basicaly just another attention seeking faggot?
Why so much fuzz about it?
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>>256322092

>these guys do it, so it must be ok!

Fuck off. Its a shitty rule.
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>>256322343
I'm not saying he did. Just about everyone knows that Nintendo is a very anal company when it comes to protecting its image. The guy should have just been more careful about what he said.
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>>256322116
Seeing all the good indie game Nintendo didn't have I'm quite happy he's leaving. I wouldn't be surprise half of his revelations are bullshit he made to hype his own departure and become a "martyr" to juice some people from their money later with a kickstarter or something.
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>>256322116
>His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms
Fucking lel. Good. Hope no more of this shovelware is on the eShop anymore.

Look at this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWdF3b2pV9g

Even the casuals say it's shit. Thanks, Dan!!
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>>256322434

>get your position completely quashed, can barely talk to indies in an open environment, stonewalled by shitty out-of-date business practices
>I COULD TOTALLY DO BETTER GUYS
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>>256322116
So he did a shitty job, nothing of value was lost
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>>256322116
The indies on e-shop were becoming pretty shitty. Saw a couple walking sims. Shit needs some quality control.
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>>256322732
>stonewalled by shitty out-of-date business practices
o god the millenial is strong in this post
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>employed by nintendo to promote indie games on their platforms
>starts spouting his personal opinions on twitch to the public which happen to be against his employers policies
>gets fired
>/v/ is surprised

this is why people on /v/ will NEVER succeed in business, or hey, even in life.
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>>256322732
Yes I can.
He must be the reason why 3ds has no indies.
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>>256322784
I think getting shovel knight onto it was good, but thats pretty much all he did that was good right?
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>>256322909
no one is surprised, we just like to shitpost against nintendo.
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>People bash Nintendo for wanting to keep employees from saying stupid shit that reflects on their company

>But make fun of Microsoft for what happened with Adam Orth
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>>256321268
But there was no Japanese SNES.

What the hell is he talking about?
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>>256322732
>can barely talk to indies in an open environment,
That's totally a reason why 3ds/wiiu got few indies - because they forbid him to use twitter.
And God help us all if he actually used email or phone calls.
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>>256320679
indie games are garbage anyway. if u wanted to play crap like that, just download free phone games from Google play
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>>256323058
It'd probably confuse people if he said Famiry Konpyuta Disuku Shisutemu
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>>256322909
The guy didn't even get fired. He was just banned using twitter since he showed many times he can't act professionaly enough on it. After a year he decided himselft to pack his bags and go indie.
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> quitting your job to be able to use Twitter

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a huge faggot hahahahahahaa
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>Idiot who can't act professionally finally fired; continues to act unprofessionally

How is this news
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>>256320679
Why would this retard leave his job and post this? Does he think this will get him another job immediately, COs don't want to hire a hot mess.
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>>256320679
>talk shit about your employers
>expect not to get fired
Top kek manchildren.
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>>256322909
Even more he wont even get a pr job for any company anymore, no company likes when their employes bitch on official twitter channel or any social media about them.
I hope he has some other qualifications or he will have to do minimum wage jobs
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>>256320679
I hope the indie bubble bursts sometime, Sony is trying to get away with letting indie devs take over the Vita with as many shitty, poorly made budget games as possible so they can focus on porting Vita games to PS4.

I don't want the 3DS to suffer the same fate.
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>>256320679
literally who?
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>>256322959
Wasnt wii u a kickstarter goal because they were a part of the ones who liked it? He did jackshit, if it was a kickstarter goal
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>>256322587
But what he said was helping him do his job.

To interact with indies you need a person, they need to know who you are.

Nobody knew who he was, so indies were not really seeing him as approachable.
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Katsuhiro Harada (Tekken guy) said in some interview Japanese companies really don't like, or explicitly disallow, "known" employees using Twitter. He said he gets away with it because he started so early.
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>>256322917
He wasn't able to really do anything though.
Nitendo didn't really give him enough space to have that kind of control.

THis problem is well known
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Reminder that if this happened under Sony, you fucks would be angry right now.

Fucking Nintendogaf.
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He didn't even talk shit about nintendo. He said he can relate to people who find the region lock inconvenient. Which it is.

Do you guys want honesty or do you want lies? Nothing shits me more than dipshit marketing guys who do nothing but lie.
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>>256323607
>He said he gets away with it because he started so early.
Is that the same reason Kamiya gets away with it?
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>employee is unable to express a lighthearted opinion about the company without getting ostracized and silenced by incompetent management and PR
>/v/ defends Nintendo for having such godawful corporate practices

Oh wait, I forgot, I'm on Nintendogaf. Where Iwata is God, and Nintendo can do no wrong.
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>>256323720
His reason is that he is a studio head.
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BASED NINTENDO
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Is this even newsworthy?

People get laid off for far more curious stuff.
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>>256323101
>because they forbid him to use twitter.
They didn't let him engage with indies on a personal level much at all.

There are articles talking about the problem going back months.

Twitter is where a lot of indies operate, its where some announce their games or look for partners.
Its one big networking event that never ends for them.For example the easiest way to get ahold of devolver digital if you are a noteworthy indie, and often even if you are not is their twitter.
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>indie devolper fired from Nintendo
looks like Nintendo finally took out the trash
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>>256320849
>>256320849
>>256320849
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>>256323743
Be unemployed somewhere else kid. No company will ever let employee talking about about them under their name.
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>>256323802
maybe because nintendo is the only company has games right now?
Maybe people on /v/ like games?
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>>256323841
>Twitter is where a lot of indies operate, its where some announce their games or look for partners.
This just highlight how putrid the "indie scene" has become, though.
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>>256323779
And Harada isn't? Chief Producer/Director probably holds the same weight.
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>>256323841
>or look for partners.
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>>256320679
Looks bad on Nintendo. That this guy left and cited Nintendo douchery as his reason. Region Lock should not be on a system in this day and age. Nintendo are the jews off the video game industry.
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>>256323802
Reminder that this is a shop
You can even see a real post that's getting covered up and the "e" is sticking out on the Sakurai image towards the bottom.
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>>256323938
>Super Rehashio
>"games"
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>>256323998
Because they make use of an effective social network for multiple tasks?
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>>256324030
He's probably a bit beta.
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>>256323802
Nice editing skills nigger.
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>>256323938
>games that I like because they remind me of my childhood are games, and we should only talk about them :)
>games that I don't like aren't games and we shouldn't talk about them because they make me feel uncomfortable :(
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>>256322343
>I can't believe people are defending this shit

Who?
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>>256323779
And he also knows that he should never bite the hand thats feeding him
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>>256324096
twitter is nothing near being an efficient platform for anything. It's a mess, you can't follow complex conversation and you can't post medias, they are using it for eth same reason they make shitty sprite game : the belief that using shit ironically makes it good.
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>>256324091
>pay 60(sixty) dollars to do something that can easily be done on a PC assuming you are not retarded.jpg
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>>256322116
>still no Spelunky on Wii U.
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>>256324119
Compared to Kamyia maybe. Otherwise definetely not.
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>>256320679
>We already knew
Did we? I have no idea who this Dan guy is, so how could I know things aren't hot between him and Nintendo?
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>>256323143
You are fucking retarded
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>>256324361
>quoting n*gger

reported :-(
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>>256324361

Announcing reports is against the rules. And actually gets enforced
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>>256324280
wii u games aren't $60
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>it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name

Haha, what the fuck, Nintendo?
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>>256321268
That's it? Fucking Nintendo, jesus christ.
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>>256324434
it's true though, in the past 5 years teh concept of indie game has been fused with "shovelware budget". They make the game look cheap on purpose to fit the self definition of "indie", it's just pathetic at this point, worse than the American "indie" cape comic scene who works on the same logic.
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>>256324262
>, you can't follow complex conversation
Which isn't what it is really used for anyway.
You also cannot use it to file your tax return, but thats about as relevant.

>you can't post medias
You mean like videos and such? No, there is youtube for that which you can link with twitter, no single site offers everything but you can connect sites that fill in the black here.

>they are using it for eth same reason they make shitty sprite game : the belief that using shit ironically makes it good.
But thats not why these people tend to choose sprite art, nor is twitter used ironically.
For that they would have to agree with you, and they way they use it shows they don't.
The fact it is effective shows that you're incorrect in that assessment.
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BEHEAD ALL
WHO INSULT
NINTENDO
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>>256324509
He's going anecdotal for the sake of controversy. When he say "suggested" he literally means "suggested" as in "some nigga told that and got shut down instantly but he still asked it".
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>>256323701
Why say it at all? It's obvious that if you say something "against" the company that you work on you'll be punished in some way, you don't need to lie, just don't say anything, but he's a faggot and wants attention so he can't stay quiet even if it's for his job.
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>>256324459
I'll happily commit martyrdom to ban that filthy racist shitlord.
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>>256324667
Fuck Nintendo for not letting their employees talk shit about them on Twitter.
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>>256324646
>Which isn't what it is really used for anyway.
But you said it was good for being your public discussion place. Why change the rules arbitrarily like that?
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>>256322116

What a shitty job he did. otherwise there would be Mineycrafta for Wii U and Nintendo would be filthy rich again.
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>>256324509
They knew people liked him, but they didn't want to admit why he was liked.

Because he was a person, not a another face for nintendo.
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>>256321268
>>256321602
>>256322343
It's standard corporate practices - it douchey, but nintendo isn't being any more douchey than any other corporation.

the key point is probably his agreeing with someone whose name is 'Endregionlock'

My friend who works in PR for a a restaurant chain for example is not advised to make any reference to diseases or poor hygiene practices in any of his written online statements because they don't want their official channel to show up in search results for such subjects. And that's just one of the many, many inane things he has to worry about before making a single goddamn tweet.
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>>256324721
Except he wont be banned and you will. have fun.
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>>256324361
Epic, epic 4 teh win
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>>256324721
>shitlord
>filthy racist
>le literally reddit
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>>256320679
Boo hoo. A faggot who works for a company and speaks badly about the company publicly is told he can't speak on the company's behalf anymore.

What a fucking surprise. So unreasonable.

This right here is called entitlement. That faggot didn't have the unabashed right to publicly speak badly of the corporation he worked for.
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>>256324820
>>256324732
Holy shit this is maximum droning
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>>256324910
If I would talk badly about BMW on my Twitter, they would boot my ass faster than you could imagine.
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>>256324752
>But you said it was good for being your public discussion place.
Given how terrible this is written I think you honestly don't understand.

Not all conversations are complex, no start of a conversation is. The start is the most important part, getting the foot in the door so to speak, it needs to be easy and casual.

Like a networking event, sure, more serious talks might continue elsewhere but you still go to the event and you still start many things there.
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>>256324910
Where do you think we are?
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>>256324909
ITT we bullshit about things we don't know about
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Don't worry.
Our friend Ebola will get Nintendo of America soon.
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>>256322675
>>256322909
>>256324909

Nintendrones are the absolute WORST people around.
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>>256324909

Look at this you cock sucking Nintendo fagboy.

>>256321268
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>>256325030
false dichotomy
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>>256324820
>It's standard corporate practices
Not for the other indie reps.

They get given freedom on their twitter.

> but nintendo isn't being any more douchey than any other corporation.
That isn't how most indies see it, and that is why nintendo's actions were entirely counterproductive.
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>>256320679
This seems like something a petulant child would do lashing out against their parent and not some professional employee who worked at their job for years and had respect enough not to burn bridges or look unprofessional.
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>>256325091
>Block out common sense just to shitpost about Nintendo
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>>256324820
Of course it's standard practice. What isn't standard practice is having a legion of fandrones defend it.

This is the sort of thing that everyone who isn't corporate should be against.

>>256324909
Now this is shillposting
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>>256324910
Imagine this:
>Work at store
>anon wants to buy a X
>Employee tells anon that they shouldnt buy X because X is shit
>anon doesnt buy X so company loses profit
Sure Nintendo is shit when it comes to region locking and shit but when you work for them you dont go flaunting your opinions like an autist
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Nintendo is shit, nothing new. Not only are their games garbage but also their policies. I don't understand why there are so many fanatics defending them
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>>256325014
>Not all conversations are complex, no start of a conversation is.
So the point stand and you agree, it's a shitty platform if you are an indie group that wants to share ideas with potential fans and investors.
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literally who

on second thought i dont really care
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>>256325091
>>256325103
why are you people surprised that shittalking the company you work for will have repercussions?

Hell, they didn't even fire the guy
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>>256324909
>So unreasonable.
Given they hired him to interact with people exactly as he was doing, to the degree they wanted to put a fake PR version of him in there yeah it is.

This is like hiring a new sports player and demanding they never play the game in public.
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>>256325203
>Of course it's standard practice. What isn't standard practice is having a legion of fandrones defend it.

But starting to shitpost over things that's, by your own words, nothing out of the ordinary is perfectly normal?

/v/ - double standards
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>>256325137
>Not for the other indie reps.
>They get given freedom on their twitter.

prove it. Let's see Sony's and Microsoft's official indie voice shit over their own system on twitter.
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>>256325223

I like how your greentext scenario is entirely fabircated and isn't analogous to what actually happened. Since you know, he didn't actually tell anyone not to buy Nintendo products
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>>256325243
>So the point stand and you agree,
No, in fact its exactly the opposite.

Again, just because I cannot use it to file my tax returns doesnt make it shitty.
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>>256325304
This is shittalking to you?
>>256321268
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>>256325103

He still can't say that dipshit. If someone got a cavity from eating Mc'Flurries or whatever the hell, a Mc'Donalds worker can't tweet "I know your pain there's too much sugar in them I never have them" without getting into trouble.
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>>256320849
>>256321615
>>256323491
>>256325265
Sick meme, /b/rothers.
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>>256325304
>shittalking the company

You people are fucking morons.
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>>256321268
that's it? i thought he was going full retard or something
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>>256325308
>to the degree they wanted to put a fake PR version of him
two post and it's already from "someone suggested" to "they hired someone to do it"
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Meanwhile on the NOA twitter.

Nintendo of America is full of shit and everyone knows this.
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So its just like what Sony did when thier main spokesperson was on a comercial with a wii.
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>guy ciritcises nintendo over jewish business practices
>side with nintendo
this place is fucking infested with nintendo manchildren
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>>256325402
He is basically part of PR, in that field you always have to walk on eggshells
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>>256325508
Yes except in Nintendo's case their employee wasn't working for another company
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>>256325402
yes anon. If you're working for a company, specially as a PR guy, you do not want to associate any sort of bad image with them at all.

Not saying it isn't stupid, but it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone
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>Microsoft practically did the same thing
>/v/ laughs at the guy that got fired

>Literally every company on Earth with any common sense cracks down on employees doing stupid shit on social media
>Nintendo does it
>they're somehow in the wrong

never change /v/
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>>256325340
>voice shit over their own system
You think saying you were not a fan of region locking some 20 years ago is talking shit?

But the fact you are asking this says something to me.

Do you even know who you're asking about?
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>>256325508


>b-b-b-but sony!

dumb nintendo fanboy subhuman are the worst.
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>>256325393
who gives a shit about your strawman taxe, you told it's a good platform for advertising their indie projects, and it's not by any means you even agreed with that, that you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it. So what exactly does it offer to them except the gratification of "being on twitter" that is about the same as your grandma feeling young for "using facebook"?
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>>256325047
>>256325091
>>256325103
ITT posts, faggots who have never held any kind of authoritative position where their decisions actually mattered.

This is standard corporate practice in any industry. The guy is paid to do his job. He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo as a corporate representative was a good idea and he got rekt for it.

They were actually nicer than most corporations because most corporations would have just fired his dumbass.

Any time you work for someone, things you say and do reflect on the company. Just because you faggots are too used to saying whatever the fuck you want on 4chan, doesn't mean that's how the real world has ever worked or ever will work.

Sorry you fedora tipping faggots don't understand what it means to uphold a public image.
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>>256320679
so what has this guy done that makes this newsworthy? like everyone has been saying Literally who?
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>>256325483
>they wanted

Nintendrone confirmed for illiterate
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>>256321268
How does this even classify shittalking your own company

Its just him saying "I know where you're coming from"
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>>256325509
Nobody is saying region locking is okay, just that the guy shouldn't whine that Nintendo didn't allow him to use twitter after he criticised them.
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>>256325654
>He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo

Opinion discarded
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>>256325654
Posts like that actually benefited Nintendo's public image

Him leaving is a big hit
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>>256325326
That's not a double standard at all. Just because it's a standard corporate practice doesn't mean I don't have the right to bitch about it. Corporations, especially Japanese corporations, do a lot of morally reprehensible things. It's our duty as consumers to call out corporations when they pull bullshit like this.

You're no better than an unpaid shill if you defend this.
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>>256325647
>who gives a shit about your strawman taxe,
That is exactly my point.

>you told it's a good platform for advertising their indie projects,
No I didnt.
Stop making up what I said.

>that you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it.
You can do both of those things.
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>>256325567
>Microsoft practically did the same thing
Microsoft did nothing like this, the employee was being a general douchebag and talking shit on people with bad internet while defending the xbone like mad

this was just a casual comment, they're nothing alike you retard
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>>256321268
>Japanese SNES
>Not just removing the physical part that enforced the region lock
Dumbass.
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>>256324910
>>256325030
>Common corporate practice
>Everyone in the thread says it's douchey but nothing new
>Dr-drones!
It makes me happy to know that people not over reacting upsets you.
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>>256325647
Do you really not understand twitter?
> you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it.
You can't neither? Fuck you sould old, being so fucking ignorant isn't helping.
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>>256325567

Yes because defending always online DRM and arguing everyone should have 24/7 internet to play games is the exact same thing as sympathising with someone who's against region lock. Totally the same.

Stay retarded anon.
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>>256325654
>publicly shitting on Nintendo

He said "I feel your pain" in regards to region locking.

You Nintenniggers will defend Iwata and Miyamoto to the grave.
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>>256325658
Its less about him personally as much as its about how this scenario reflects on Nintendo as a company. Is it unique to Nintendo? Probably not, but just saying "Oh but EVERY company does it" does not make it necessarily acceptable. Fanboys like to believe Nintendo is some goody-two-shoes when it comes to their attitude but its events like this that remind us all theyre just as much of a cunt as anyone else.
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>>256325808
>One was fired, one told not to tweet anymore
Also not the same
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>>256322116
>His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms
>only Few good indie titles get in

WOW, ITs fucking nothing.

Hes basically like Reggie, except Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized. Pretty sure Nintendo will replace him with someone who is better.
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>>256325689

He's speaking as a representative of Nintendo. He has to fully support the region lock through any social channel even if he personally disagrees with it.
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>>256325692
I think actively keeping employees from saying what they want about your company is a worse image than letting your employee criticize you openly.

Censorship is bad, isn't it?
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>>256325783
Yet you act so offended that someone actually calls you out on being a damn shitposter that you can't help but pull the drone card after all.

/v/ - hatedrones
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>>256325871
>You Nintenniggers will defend Iwata and Miyamoto to the grave.
Not the case here though.
This is Nintendo of America.
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>>256325871
>Nintenniggers
>Nintentoddlers
If you're going to insult, at least get the insult right.
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Thread is over, go home everyone.
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>>256325895
And whoever they replace him with will be unable to do their job just like he was.

NINtendo is notorious about this.
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>>256325616
>waaaaah, you cant point out hypocrisy
fuck off fanboy
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>>256325871
yes anon. Saying something negative about the company you work for is grounds for being let go as a PR guy. Guy was lucky he just got a twitter restriction.

This is NoA by the way. Those two don't work there
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>>256325938
>hatedrones

Yeah any chance of you being taken seriously is completely gone now. In case there was any before.
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>>256325912
Not as long as nobody knows you are censoring them.
Most contracts even include that kind of stuff, PR and people who out themselves as company representatives are'nt allowed to criticise the company, no matter what they thing.
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>>256324159
>projecting
>>
>sympathize with the userbase that's against regionlocking
>get fired

b-based nintendo-sama right g-guys?
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>>256325912
It's not a one way street sweetheart.
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>>256325972
well that settles it. another series of neogaf false flagging and disinfo subverted.
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>>256326054
>Not as long as nobody knows you are censoring them.
He suddenly stopped talking to indie devs.

Everyone knew what happened.
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>>256325972
>B-but NintendoGAF!
Holy shit this is hilarious. NeoFAGs need to fuck off.
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>>256320679
>Nintendo's
>indie

What?
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>>256325808
>>256325870

Adam Orth did stupid shit on Twitter, this Nintendo guy did stupid shit on Twitter. Nintendo is almost Disney-tier when it comes to shit like this, the guy should have known that shit since he was employed there. Even saying something as innocuous as >>256325447 what that anon said can get you reprimanded on a job. When you speak on social media, especially in a PR position, YOU represent the company. He was saying shit that went against what Nintendo's policies and got rightfully canned for it. I'm not defending region locking, but I'm also not going to be retarded and sit here trying to defend an idiot that went against basic protocol.
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>>256326154
No, you need to fuck off
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Who is Dan Adelman? Seriously, what has he done?
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>>256325895
>except Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized
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>>256326192
grammar is too much for the lot obsessed with discrediting nintendo.
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>itt: whats a contract?
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>>256322528
Because it shows that Sony really is #ForThePlayers and that Nintendo isn't.
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>>256326207
>and got rightfully canned for it.
Except he didn't get canned.
He left.

And by shutting him up, nintendo closed themselves off to indies in a big way, they became seen as unhelpful and unapproachable.
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>>256326207


>He shouldn't of done that! It's his fault!

Can you believe these nintendrones?
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>>256325912
>I think actively keeping employees from saying what they want about your company is a worse image than letting your employee criticize you openly.

You do realize almost every company will fire people for criticizing them publicly?
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>>256326054
I understand its a rule-- its been said constantly in this thread.

Its just a shitty rule, is all.
Especially when this happens and people find out about it anyway, now everyone looks like shit.
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>>256325972
hahaha this is just another fucking neofag thread.
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Don't piss inside the tent.
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>>256325895
>Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized
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>>256326207
You're retarded, the "stupid shit" are on almost completely different levels

One is repeatedly talking shit on consumers, the other is empathizing with one in a casual conversation

How delusional can you get?
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>>256325689
>Guy a: region lock is bad it should be ended
>PR:yeah i understand you and you are right.
If he agrees with someone bitching about reegion lock it also implies that he is also bitching about it and leads to him cirticising his own companies policies
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>>256325871

> You Nintenniggers will defend Iwata and Miyamoto to the grave.

Not only is this Nintendo of America we're speaking about, I'm sure those two don't have a hand in every decision ever made in the company. There are thousands of decisionmakers. I'm pretty sure Iwata and Miyamoto don't even know who the guy is.
Not that I really give a fuck, just stop pretending a multi million dollar company company is run by two people.
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>>256325972
>Detalhes
>Responder
>Curtir
hue
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>>256325692
nintendo isn't his mom dipshit
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>>256325654
>He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo as a corporate representative was a good idea
>shittting
>Droning so hard that takes a comment out of proportion
Oh look someone pretending to know about authority without actual evidence of he himself being on an authoritative position. Well at least you're not going to use a buzzword in your argument.
>fedora tipping
Oh there it is the mark of someone who is every word he is complaining about.

The comment was nothing but the truth, trying to censor it by not letting the guy communicate to the public again was a dumb move and will bite them in the ass now that the guy is allowed to speak. I am sure if you worked with nintendo your nose would be brown and you would speak wonders of region lock but too bad in the "real wold" you're just another drone.
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>>256326332
>Its just a shitty rule, is all.
The reason it exists is so employers don't publicly humiliate and damage the company they work for.
It might have been used to striktly in this case, but he wasn't even let go, just told not to use twitter.
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>>256325875
Oh okay. I never gave a shit about Nintendo anyway so they can go bankrupt for all I care.
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I'm probably a nintendrone but this is absolute bullshit and there's no defending it.

Is that actually legal? Can your employers seriously control your twitter?
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>>256326310
Yes, I realize this, that's why I didn't specifically target Nintendo with that statement. I don't think its a good policy, and every other company doing it is guilty as well.
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>>256326240
You flame in every thread even remotely related to consoles about how Nintendo is shit and LE SONY ALWAYS WINS XD, shill shitty movies, and piss all over video games that aren't on the Playstation.

I talk about video games.

I can tell who is more apt to be on the board about video games very clearly.

>B-but you're just a Nintendrone!
>S-sony always wins!
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>>256322343

You obviously haven't had a proper job yet.

Even small companies have a social media policy.

The guy signed it when he started, or when the policy was adopted, if he was there before it started, and refused to sign it, he'd be out of a job.

It's petty, but it stops the xbox "deal with it" shitstorm from happening.
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>>256326497
No, but they can fire you for publicly talking about them.
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>>256326375
Saying something as innocent as "I agree with you about region locking" to a guy whose handle is Endregionlocking is "stupid shit" in Nintendo's eyes. Read the entire post before spouting how delusional someone is.
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>>256325895
>>256326371
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>256325972
FALSE FLAG
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
FALSE FLAG
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
FALSE FLAG
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
WARNING! THIS THREAD HAS GONE MAXIMUM BAIT!
WARNING! THIS THREAD HAS GONE MAXIMUM BAIT!
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>>256326310
He barely even criticized them, he basically just said "I feel you bro"

He even dropped that he owned an SNES
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>>256326497
Do you not know what a NDA is?

Educate yourself.
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>ITT: sonyggers pretend theres a heavy nintendo bias on /v/

just go back to neogaf
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>MUH SOCIAL MEDIA
>Oh no, I can't talk shit about someone who pays me!

What a fucking retard. If he REALLY wanted to stand up against Nintendo he should have left day 1.

What a fucking goon.
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>>256326423
how do u no faggot
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>>256326516
>le anime face
Are you literally retarded?
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>>256326332
>Its just a shitty rule, is all. Especially when this happens and people find out about it anyway, now everyone looks like shit.

Even if it wasn't a rule it wouldn't be ideal. Even good companies that would alllow tweets like his would look like total crap because everytime something negative happens their employees would be criticizing them.

Whereas scummy companies would keep their employees silent and would appear better.
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>>256326516
>projecting this hard against people who are literally anonymous strangers

This guy.
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>>256326497
>Can your employers seriously control your twitter?
Have you never worked in a big company? Those fuckers have their eyes on your Twitter and Facebook, they probably came to an agreement to close his Twitter account before firing him, at least until now that he HAS been fired.
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>>256326154
>>256326347
>>256326585
samefag

yes, because it's inconceivable that someone who works with nintendo would visit neogaf, a popular website
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>>256326497
>Can your employers seriously control your twitter?
yes, if its the profile linking it to you. they are also allowed to check your facebook and other blogs to be sure you aren't shitting on them in their back too.On a legal point of view, it's really legal and he could have faced way more than being fired if he insisted and disobeyed.
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>>256326602
Go back to nintendogaf
Oh wait, you're already here
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>>256326497
Perfectly legal. They didn't fire him for it but if they did, he probably had a contract that said you can be fired for saying stuff against the company. Wouldn't be the first time or last that this happens
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Has this guy brought over any actual games? I mean one of the shovelknight stretch goals was to get it on Wii U.
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>>256326663
see
>>256325972
>before firing him, at least until now that he HAS been fired.
He wasn't fired.
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>>256326371
>Big named
dont be a faggot, there is nothing big named about fatal frame
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>>256326497
if ur statements represent the company then i would argue that yes we can
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>>256324909

lots of people butthurt by this post but this is common practice. its sort of like going and adding your boss on facebook and talking shit about him and suddenly being buttmad that you got fired
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>indieshit

Why should I give a fuck?
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>>256326607
He wasn't talking shit, he was empathizing with a consumer, how is that a shitty practice?
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>>256326726
Oh my bad.
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>>256326591
I'm aware of what that is. A contract to stop someone from releasing confidential information to another party. But does valid criticism of a company's practices really count as "confidential?" I don't think anyone learned what region locking was through that guy's tweets.

Whether or not it's legal is not the question I guess, since it's happened before. I still think it's bullshit. Nothing I or anyone can do about it though.
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>>256326694
well if this place is so bad, why the fuck are you stillhere?
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>>256326673
try again
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>>256326516
>>/a/
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>>256325203
You'd have to wait for something truly egregious though to voice your complaints, because otherwise it just looks like standard whining.I mean the gaming community already has the reputation bitching loudly but buying it anyway, so it's not like this really accomplishes anything.
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>>256326483
>>256326629
I understand the negativity bit, I really do; companies want their employees to keep the company looking good.

But I don't like lies. If the people you are paying have to lie about you publicly to keep your image then I think something is wrong.

I'm probably being naive but I don't really care, I think I'm within my rights to not like being lied to.
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>>256326814
>Whether or not it's legal is not the question I guess, since it's happened before. I still think it's bullshit. Nothing I or anyone can do about it though.
If it didn't exist, employees would do much worse things. It might have been a little strikt, but it was only not allowing him to use twitter.
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>>256326876
>He can't even link to other boards!
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>>256321268
You have to be fucking kidding me. This is how bad the video game industry has gotten - empathizing with fans is now unacceptable and grounds for termination.

I thought Ninty was actually one of the cooler companies too.
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>I saw my role as essentially having two parts. On the one hand, I was working for Nintendo inside the indie development community. On the other, I was working for the indie community inside Nintendo. So yeah, I absolutely did try to fight internally to change whatever I could. There were a ton of policies that have been updated and improved. I already mentioned about that office requirement. It was crazy. There were people whose job it was to look up addresses in Google maps to see if the business address was a home or an office building. And if it looked a little residential, they'd ask for photos. There would be e-mail threads with literally a few dozen back and forth exchanges about whether the couch in someone's office was really used for business purposes or did someone really live there? That policy, thankfully, is gone.

NINTENDO LOL
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>>256326483
it's still a pretty big overreaction to censor someone for a year for a comment as insignificant as that

he even mentioned owning an SNES
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>>256320679
Honestly more companies should just blanket ban the vidya industry from posting stupid shit on Twitter.
I'm tired of the manchildren making my games being immature fuckwads and making the industry look bad.
If you're in the industry, and if you're reading this, don't shitpost on a twitter account linked to your identity.
Shitpost on a different twitter account, or on fucking 4chan, or reddit, or wherever.
Just don't fucking do it with your real god damn name. You look like a fucking toolbag.
I hope Phil Fish never has a job again.
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>>256326618
>>256326876
>complaining about anime reaction faces on 4chan

I'm not even a weeb but you're retarded
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>>256326962
All PR is lying, sadly.
the rule for this kind of thing is either say something nice, or say nothing at all.
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>>256326979
>
Bait
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>>256326979
Not that I'm agreeing with Nintendo, but he wasn't fired for it, he was asked to stay off of twitter.

He left later for other reasons.
>>
If the private company you work for doesn't like what you post on twitter, delete it or find another job.

Fucking commies
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>>256327027
Pretty much. But they might have been afraid of it being a slippery slope, and tried to deal with the problem before there is one.
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>>256326838
There are some good threads from time to time that aren't full of nintendrones
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>all these dumb assniggers itt
why is /v/ so fucking dumb?
>hurr durr they fired a brotha 4 a tweet! what the fuck man
This negro was obviously not fired for a fucking tweet, that shit is just an excuse to get rid of him.
>>
So there is a lot of jewish shitposting regarding videogame companies

But who IS the true mastermind behind the media control?
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>>256324585
Or because they'd rather focus on good gameplay mechanics than sparkly graffix. Many AAA titles are the other way around.
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Guys, guys. Shut the fuck up for just a second.

Why do we care?
So what if a company tells an employee to stop using Twitter? So what if some asshat who didn't do anything wrong got fired?

It wasn't us.
Now go play video games, you crazy kids.
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NDF working overdrive
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>the people who defend Nintendo (not in this case here because that was just a misunderstanding) are maximum drones
>the people who hate them are normalfag NEOGAFfags who want 4chan to be Facebook 2.0

Can't we kill both sides?
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>>256326979
This
Nintendo are clearly just money grubbing assholes
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>>256327009
>That policy, thankfully, is gone.
Not especially a good thing, most indie "projects" are scams so having an actual physical location when you claim to be on a big project seems like the minimum requirement to be respected. Indie games are still made by companies, they should be accountable just like any other companies, if only to make the possible contracts legal.
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>>256325574
You don't need to agree with every decision your employers makes but you don't need to talk about this too, you can just stay out of the topic.
The reason is simple, journalists, they can use shit like that to make click bait articles and damage the company's name. If he can't think for a second about it he can't have freedom to speak in name of the company.
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>>256327148

Yeah if it went any further it could potentially be:

"Even Nintendo employees widely disagree with WiiU and 3DS region lock" plastered on Kotaku, IGN etc.
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>>256327009
What the fuck
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>>256326936
I don't expect much to come out of this at all. I just hope people realize that Nintendo is not the goody-two-shoes company that they imagine it is.
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>>256326979
Nintendo just kicked out a 'Gaffer'. They are fresh as a daisy to me.
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>>256327269
>What is every company ever
I agree nintendo was and always will be a company that wants the money, but that doesn't mean they are the only ones
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>>256327342
>"Even Nintendo employees widely disagree with WiiU and 3DS region lock" plastered on Kotaku, IGN etc.
Gaming "journalism" would have fucking loved that shit.
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>>256320679
Literally who?
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>>256327203
false dichotomy, just because you are indie doesn't mean you must seek for pixelart and other shape based flash tweens.
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>>256327319
Except journalists have to actually post the tweet, and his comment was so minor that most viewers would agree that he wasn't "talking shit"
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>>256327168
yeah, those annoying sonygger threads that dont belong here at all

go back to your silky smooth 10fps bloodborne threads faggot
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>>256324820
>it douchey, but nintendo isn't being any more douchey than any other corporation.

Dear lord, when EA/Sony/MS does this /v/ is up in arms like the retards they are but if its done by its precious Nintendo, it is industry standard.

Fact of the matter is, a) guy on Nintendo made a post that was against Region locking in a indirect way. b) Nintendo overreacted towards that proclaim and now are firing said employed.

Nintendo are being dicks, that is the end of it.
>>
TALK SHIT GET HIT BOI
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>>256320679
I remember hearing about that

Assumed he was shot or something
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>>256327472
Nintendrones strike again, who would have thought
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>>256327009
haha what the fuck
is nintendo autistic?
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>working for Nintendo
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>>256327459
Famous Indie dev, creator of Cave Story, Gone Homo and Guacameme.
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>>256325030
Is calling everything Nintendo the new calling everything SJW?

Or other way around
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>>256327261
you seem to misunderstand

there is no nintendo defense force on /v/, there never has been. neither has there been an xbox defense force.

there is the valve df and sony df and the sony df is responsible for about 95% of shitposting threads and false flags

neogaf is our enemy
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>>256327472
I think you're the only one who's mentioned sony during your exchange with the other anon.
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>>256327469
Stuff like that snowballs faster than you could imagine. Companies are normally better off killing it before it even starts.
Look at the Assasins Creed lack of female protagonist thing. It started with one small article and then grew into a fucking PR nightmare.
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>>256327538
He left himself, all Nintendo did was give him an option of having replacement guy using his twitter or not using it at all
>>
It's like people thought nintendo was their best friend and they're so surprised that they're actually a corporation that only cares about your wallet and has horrible policies like every other corporation. Protip, Reggie is a marketer, not your bro.
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>>256327351
When an indie project is just one guy over twitter you kinda have to be extra safe before officially dealing with them. Twitter 'identities" are particularly easy to fake.
>>
>indie guy
Nintendo has indie games?

The fuck?
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>>256327538
>when EA/Sony/MS does this /v/ is up in arms
bullshit
>now are firing said employed.
wasn't fired

learn to read
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>>256327468
Of course not, and there are a fuckton of indie games that don't have pixelart or "flash tweens", you are a moron.

Sure the indie scene releases more shovelware than the big teams do, simply because there are more people working on said showelware. Most of it is free as well.

"indie games are terrible because pixel art" is a fucking retarded statement. So my original point stands: You are a retard.
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>>256327642
Well from what I'm seeing here it was 10x worse to censor him for that shit, now journalists can say NINTENDO CENSORS EMPLOYEES

How is that shit any better?
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>>256327196
the woman who told icke about da REPTILIANZ also told him that they are just following the orders of "The Old Ones"

you should put those in your pic too
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>>256327469
Except that when sucha big news happen, people start to quote other articles instead of direct source, making it a mess to clarify from the reader point of view.
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>>256327668
Asking them to show their game should be enough to judge if they're legit
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>>256325689
I think it has to do with the fact that you aren't allow to admit and issue that the company doesn't publicly admits. For example the fact that Apple use to say that "There are no Viruses for macs" and when you got one on your MAC customer support was explicitly told not to recognize any issues related with a Virus on any MAC.

He admitting or even understanding the issue that a customer has against region locking, is admitting and issue that NCL hasn't admitted in any way or form.
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>>256327236
I agree. But /v/ will never stop caring about bullshit e-celebs and twitter. Sorry.
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>>256327657
>only cares about your wallet

This isnt really true though. For example, funding Bayonetta 2 was not done with sales in mind.
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>>256327592
I only read one actually well written review of this game, and that was in a german nintendo magazine. They even had a small section calling the controversy bullshit. The reviewer even asked his sjw collegues when they turned into stupid americans.
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>>256327298
People start their legitimate businesses out of their homes all the time. Apple started out in a fucking garage.

Japanese corporations are notorious for being anal about stupid shit like that.
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>>256327538
>and now are firing said employed.
Not especially linked to the former event though. He even said he left, so 50% he jsut got a job in a startup from one of his twitter "friend".
I expect a kickstarter using his name soon.
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>>256320679
Literally who?
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>>256327752
It is a situation you can't win, you just try to do as much damage controll as possible.
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>>256327610
>neither has there been an xbox defense force

>late 7th gen
>ps3 has outsold the 360 by millions of units
>has like 200 more exclusives
>PS3 NO GAMEZ LELELELE threads up on /v/ 24/7
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>Nintendo lost somebody great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JL8eAQtqJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZ5bTMRjpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uVmygSZf1k

Does fucking NOBODY remember these shitty Indie Sizzle Reels from every E3? They're easily the worst part of EVERY Nintendo presentation and Dan's departure is a GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE.
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>>256327913
but the ps3 doesnt have games
neither does the ps4

this has nothing to do with xbox, just that sony consoles a shit
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>>256327787
It was done to get more games so people will buy the console and put more money in their pocket.
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ITT people who are just her to shitpost about nintendo and not reading the thread
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>>256327912
No, here it was obviously easier to damage control if they just let him tweet that

Again, like I mentioned before, if journalists would make a story about that they would have to post the actual tweet and many would likely be inclined to say that it was just a minor comment

Actually censoring someone gives journalists the proof they want

The right thing to do would be to cut him off if he was actually talking shit on nintendo, then people could look at that and say "well he was talking shit on nintendo so no wonder"

but here it makes no sense
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>>256327962
>this guy did what he was hired to do!
>GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE

BASED NINTENDOGAF STILL GOING STRONG
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>>256327045
This. If you have to complain to make yourself feel better don't use your REAL FUCKING NAME. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
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>talk shit on internet
>forget that talking shit about people you know internet will have consequences
>get rekt
>throw a tantrum on shitaku how life in unfair

Twatting complains is not how you solve your workplace issues. Congrats on losing your job you moron.
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>>256328001
ITT people who are just her to shitpost on behalf of nintendo and not reading the thread
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>>256328000
>bayonetta sold so horribly that Sega didn't even want to fund the sequel
>nintendo needs more sales
>LETS FUND THIS GAME THAT DOESNT SELL

10/10 logic there bud
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>>256328073
>talk shit on internet

he wasn't talking shit ah fuck it you're just trying to bait, the smug reaction image gave it away
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>>256327769
It's not actually, they could try to sell you stolen code from an uncredited slav programmer you don't know about.
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>>256328061
But everyone could do better, you just need to be a good negotiator to interest the devs, it´s not big deal
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>>256327196
>>256327754

I love these /pol/ & /x/ hybrid images

Real talk, Zionist Jews are an Illuminati pawn used to deflect attention from the big players
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>>256328058
It was unwise in hindsight, but maybe nintendo didn't think it would create any "controversy" if he stopped tweeting.
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>>256327045
Phil Fish will never ever need a job again, you think all the millions he made from FEZ is going to turn into air or something?
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>>256321268
>sympathizing with people over a consumer hostile policy

Man what a bastard
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>>256328074
>her
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>>256327854
Your exemple is literally 50 years old. You don't start a business in a garage anymore, it's mostly illegal at this point considering all the legal authorisations needed to enter the market at all.
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>>256328232
Depends on how stupid he is, maybe
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>>256327358
None of them are - any corporation massive enough to go multinational would have done egregious things pretty regularly - whether it's gouging customers or using child miners in africa or poor treatment of employees. And honestly, they kind of have to choose between some form of those acts in order to turn a profit. In the case of some companies like Apple, it's all three.
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>>256328191
What's supposed to be that thing in the second last panel?
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>>256328170
>talks ill about company
>not shit talking
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>>256328245

Bailey Jay is on gelbooru?
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>>256328191
it's the other way around m8

the kikes get you tinfoilers believing in alienz and the enemies from Sen's Fortress so that they can do as they please
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>>256328123
They get to look like the good guy and the word of mouth spreads. I didn't say it was effective. If nintendo did things that were effective they wouldn't be in the position they are now, would they?
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>>256328275
Some countrie sstill have programms for startups, with official government funding
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NINTENDO DEFENSE FORCE ACTIVATE!
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>>256328232
If he just doesn't make vidya ever again because he has millyuns, I'm fine with that. Just keep him the fuck out of this industry.
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Time to lay down some truth.

All of the big vidya execs on twitter are just PR guys pretending to be them. They follow specific guidelines and plan out jokes etc.

If you insist on running your own company twitter you better be damn careful what you write because you have literally just taken on the responsibilities of a paid PR guy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sGQQ6DziDg

Dan Adelman greenlit this to be on Wii U. Consider that for a moment.
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>>256328386
>If nintendo did things that were effective they wouldn't be in the position they are now, would they?

You mean the most succesful video games company for multiple decades straight?
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>>256327009
They want to work with pros, not some basement dweller who could clam up and not release a game

Christ /v/ is full of children
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>>256328539
Struggling with the Wii U and not making any profits
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If nintendo was literally using fresh puppy souls for the newest nintendogs, AND YOU WORK FOR NINTENDO, you can't go on twitter and say shit. You could say "Gee I sure luv killing puppies all day for Reggie #endlessslaughter" but you can't say "The eggs in the nintendo cafeteria are dry :(" That's how business works. If you don't work for the you can say whatever the hell you want but if an employee is undermining the company with complaints about what they do then they should be fired then and there.
This Dan guy is an idiot who should have known this
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>>256328390
and the first step is to get a legal address for it. Even if it's city's borrowed space you need more than your sofa.
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>TFW Kojoma is probably just some PR guy that gets some photos from Kojima and makes the Twitter posts for him.
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>>256328645
>Struggling with the Wii U
they're doing fine

>not making any profits
top lel, they've been making profits since it begun idiot
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>>256328602
It may make sense, but it does ound silly
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>>256328514
>Mario replaced by a cat
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>>256328514
What the fuck
What the fuck
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I honestly don't care. I mean I would care if like I lost my job. But I still have mine, lol
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>Getting yourself fired over not being allowed to post on fucking TWITTER

Absolutely fucking retarded. I am just upset that I'm going to have to be supporting his activist ass through government safety net programs because he decided he needed 'the right' to post on social media.
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>>256328758
It's actually good
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>>256320679
>Nintendo are cunts news at eleven.
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>>256324469
yes they are
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>>256321268
>not just cutting the tabs
this guy
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>>256320679
>talking shit about your own company on twitter
>get fired
STOP THE PRESSES!
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>>256328728
Tons of big companies have policies like that, it's just you don't hear about them because they fire unprofessional shitbags like this guy
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It's sad to me because he seemed cool. I know all companies do it but they actually wanted someone to pretend to be him.
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>>256328849
>talking shit
Where?
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>>256328849
Yes, empathizing that someone can't play japanese games is literally calling nintendo shit
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>talking about dongles and forking
>get fired
STOP THE PRESSES
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You know what's funny?

When it was revealed that FF Type 0 wouldn't be coming out on the Vita but only on the Next Gen consoles (I know all of you remember the fiasco), that Arab dude who works in a similar position but for Sony wrote multiple tweets stating his disappointment such as "The dream is dead" and "You can't do this to us Square".
Did Sony fire him? Fuck no.

This just proves that Nintendo is much more sinister than they let on.
Heck, when Sony and M$ have better employee relations than Nintendo, you know this isn't the Ninty we grew up with.

Iwata needs to get the boot.
"Suggesting" that a a PR person take over your twitter because you are a potty mouth? Get the fuck out.

What happened to Nintendo, man?
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>>256328359

Nah, the Rothschild are an illuminati family with close ties to the royal family

Israel is nothing more than a pawn, there's a reason they live in Europe, they're gonna false flag Israel in order to kickstart revelations

You might be right about the aliens though, I assumed everyone was clever enough to realise the aliens are a result of brainwashing

>Come into your room at night
>Held down on a table
>Naked
>Anal probes
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>>256328724
Nintendo has lost money overall for a few years straight. They're nowhere near sony levels but they're not doing well either. They have time to turn it around. Even Miyamoto said that the numbers have never been as bad as they currently are or something to that effect.
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>>256328275
>it's mostly illegal at this point considering all the legal authorisations needed to enter the market at all.
Please don't make shit up when you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>256325228
ask yourself that about any company, like sony, or microsoft, or even valve

>>256325304
because a chunk of /v/ doesn't understand how the corporate world works
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>>256328865
>Tons of big companies have policies like that, it's just you don't hear about them because they fire unprofessional shitbags like this guy
People in this thread don't get that this kind of stuff is exactly why companies are so anal about their social media policies.
People often don't get why stuff is done the way it is and start mocking companies that are doing nothing wrong, damaging their reputation.
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>nintendokiddies are defending this

They are beyond brainwashed.
Nintendo sure is a fun and quirky company, huh guys? Especially when they remove someone who sympathies with fans over an anti-consumer policy and try to get a PR person to post in their name.
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>>256328982
Sony isn't a professional company, they are a joke and are crashing and burning right now

That's the difference
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>>256329050
The other companies at least make good games
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>>256325304
>shittalking

maybe if you're an overly defensive faggot that interprets anything that isn't a veiled compliment as an attack
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>>256328982
Nintendo didn't fire the guy either.
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>>256329114
Literally nobody is saying that.
They are saying that Nintendo acts like a typical company does.
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>>256329156
good is subjective, way to have no argument
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>>256329137
>Sony
>Crashing and burning
oh you silly Microshills. If Sony is crashing and burning, then why is their stock going up? I'm +10% on their stock right now.
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>>256329114
Of course. Reggie totally plays dragon quest and uses memes so they must love us. Seriously I enjoy their games and my wii u but I have zero loyalty to the people that work there, or even to the company itself. I won't buy a product that I know I wouldn't enjoy.
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>>256329328
No it isn't, filtered for being a moron
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Nintendo are jews, wow sure is news.
News flash, all corporations are jews, that's how they operate.
Brand loyalism is the dumbest shit ever and every single one of you fucks loyal to a brand and not particular product based on it's quality are massive retards. You also shouldn't suck corporation's dick if you love their product, and certainly shouldn't blindly buy their other products without proper research.
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>go into the NeoGAF thread

Look at all this Nintenshilling. Not even Sony central can be rid of the plague that is Nintendrones. They actually like "Reggie memes"?
Jesus Christ.
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>>256329114
Nintendo didn't fire him tho, learn to read
Who am I kidding, you are probably a kike that likes to start shit
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Jesus christ, this level of droning is out of the charts
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At least Sony and Microsoft can admit when they've done retarded decisions (somewhat, sometimes). Nintendo just censor the shit out of their retardedness.
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Man, things just haven't been the same since Nintendo got decimated at E3 by Sony and Microsoft.

And yes, they got decimated:
There you go. Facts all on the table.

Objectively, Sony had the most games AND most exclusives out of any company.
Nintendo had 3 times less games than any other company.

Objectively, Sony "won" E3. Objectively, Nintendo "lost" E3.
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>>256329549
I know, Sony fanboys are pbnoxious
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>>256320679

This is comete bullshit but not different than any other large company ever.

You say bad things about your employer on social media, bad things happen. Welcome to having a job.
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>>256328849
>talking shit
Well yeah, since he didn't worship the most retarded things, to you drones what he did was indeed "talk shit"
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>>256329016
W?????????E????????? ???????????A?????????????R??????????E?????? ???????????W?????????????A??????????????????T???????????C????????????????????H???????I???????????N?????????????????????G???????????? ????????????Y?????????????????O???????????????U?????????????????
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>>256329605
Professional companies don't make gaffes in the first place, kids
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>>256329672
He didn't say bad things about his employer though
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>>256323101
Read the interview. The guy mentions that there are people at Nintendo whose entire job is look at Indie conpanies addresses on google maps to find out of they are residential or commercial addresses.
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>>256329627
Quality above quantity anon.
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>>256329718
>Well yeah, since he didn't worship the most retarded things, to you drones what he did was indeed "talk shit"
That's what grownups call being a company representative
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I suppose Nintendo can do that kind of thing if it wants.
The real problem here isn't telling guys that essentially do marketing/relations work for you what to say. It's that region locking is anti-consumer garbage and shouldn't need to be sympathized with to begin with.
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>>256328982
This was Nintendo of America's doing not Iwata's.
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>>256328982
>SONY PR putting all the blame on a separate company
>N PR guy shitting on his own company

Also 99% of the guys on Sony twitter are PR guys pretending to be them. It's the nature of things.
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>>256329741

Come at me faggots

I'll open my third eye and korosu a baka
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We should send nintendo a card thanking them for firing this guy!
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>>256328982
>Did Sony fire him? Fuck no.
Why would they? Sony compete with Square Enix in multiple markets.
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It's okay if Nintendo does it: The Game: The Movie: The Thread
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>>256328514
Is this his answer to Murasaki Mist? what the christ
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Nintendo is saved! We did it nintenbros! Lets send nintendo a thank you card for firing this guy.
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Looks like another example of "Nintendo can do no wrong."

>other company bans someone from using twitter due to personal opinion
>the company is evil and should be blacklisted, except if it's Nintendo

>region locking is bad!
>but when Nintendo does it, they're doin it for the customer

>movie games with zero gameplay are bad!
>but when Nintendo does it, it's the best thing ever!
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>>256330790


kek nintendrones trying to deflect hard.
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>>256331425
Shouldn't you be here nigger?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=841670
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Is this guy even important at all for nintendo? Indie is hardly a main selling point for consoles.

Anyway, I agree that Nintendo was way too asshurt over that innocent comment, I know they need to protect theyr image now but fuck, they're LITERALLY the joke of the industry after the Wii U fiasco, they're just fucking him over nothing.
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>>256330790
Wow, those prices are retarded.
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>>256322343
Nobody is defending Nintendo of America.
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>>256331532
Nintendo has movie games with no gameplay?
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NDF ALERT
NDF ALERT

WE ARE LOSING! DEFLECT. I REPEAT. DEFLECT.
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>>256331707

Made Nintendo more profit than the entire Prime Trilogy combined, and is now recognized as more canon than any other Metroid.
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>>256331532
>>256331227
Not really, there's a difference between "Nintendo can do no wrong" and "I don't really care", if you are unsure of my opinion is the latter
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>>256331532
>>other company bans someone from using twitter due to personal opinion
>>the company is evil and should be blacklisted, except if it's Nintendo

Your bear macro should be blue and wear a fedora, for you are now on Preston level of strawmaning.
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>>256325858
What's that image from?
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>>256331874
>now recognized as more canon than any other Metroid.
[Citation Needed]
So why do they do not talk about it and when they did talk about metroid they said they wanted to do another metroid prime or one like the classical 2D metroid? Go fuck yourself motherfaggot
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>>256331874
Comparing to what? TLOU?, this had more gameplay
I like both but come on
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>>256331874
But nobody evr defends it
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>>256328275
You have never started a business in your life.
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>>256331907

>"I don't really care"

And yet when any other company does it, you're sure to attack them like they were Satan if he was a pedophile. That sure doesn't seem like you don't care.
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>>256331874
It's also one of the most widely hated Nintendo games ever
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>>256331994
Advance Wars.

It's the CO called Grit.
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>>256332096
Sakurai pls. I'm actually working on freelance.
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>>256332043

>[citation needed]

Citation provided.
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>>256332060
The Last of Us actually didn't have that many cutscenes, slightly less than Bayonneta

>but it was cinematic
So was Ocarina of Time and Another World
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>>256332106
No I don't, you are projecting, I entered /v/ a year ago and I always hear about how much better /v/ was, and I think you are part of the problem of actual /v/
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>>256330008
it's a business practice meant to keep a product from competing with itself on the international market, is it scummy? yep, but it's meant to maximize profits

also this guy said something minute, and he left nintendo of his own free will instead of trying to negotiate with them about getting his account back

meanwhile the guy from microsoft was actively shitting on people with the "always online isn't a big deal" thing and was FIRED BY MICROSOFT after backlash


you can see why people may be a bit more apathetic towards a guy who left on his own free will because he lost his twitter versus a loud retard who was fired by the company he works for so they could save face
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>>256331874
>other m was more expensive to make than the prime games
>prime games sold more altogether
>somehow made less profit

yeah sure buddy
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>9 years
>industry veteran
>indie guy dan adelman
who?
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>>256332293

>Other M
>more expensive

It was a PS2 game ported to the Wii. That didn't cost a penny.
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>>256332198
>working freelance is somehow relevant to starting a competing business

Step out while you only look like kind of a moron.
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>>256332246
It's cutscenes and story where propped above everything by the critics though

It really is why the game is popular
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>>256332246
>implying every 5 metters you get a 20 minutes walk with the retards talking or a 10 minutes cutscene on bayonneta or oot
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>>256329045
thats mainly R&D costs and expansion and shit
long term investment
The WiiU itself has been making a profit from game sales
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>>256332215
So its canon because it fucks with everything else? Did you hit your head or something?
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>>256332367
I didn't know nintendo made games for the PS2
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>>256331874
> made more profit than the entire Prime trilogy
But that's wrong, it's the 4th worst selling Metroid, and didn't even sell half as much as Prime 1.
But who am I kidding, you're just gonna deflect and shit "FUCKING NINTENYEAROLDS!" instead of making any logical argument.
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>>256331635
No, he's not important in the slightest. He basically admitted that he is easily replaced and almost no one even knew who he was before he left.
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>>256332117

You suuuuure about that? i doubt it.
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>>256332394
well critics are critics, i'm talking about the game here not shitty reviewers

>>256332416
and you walked a ton in the 3D zeldas too, your point?
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>>256332379
>somehow working alone and being your boss is not starting a business

ok kid, too much internet for you today. I'm literally my own company, and subject to the same laws as your local AAA devs. I'm just the smallest possible version of it.
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>>256332432

Yes, it is canon. Nintendo never retconned it, and Smash Brothers further supports it.

>>256332434

I would've said gamecube quality, but gamecube games looked nice at least. Other M didn't even have that luxury.
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>>256328826
Download only games aren't.
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>>256332215
Still can't see anything that recognizes Other M as MORE canon. The pic you posted is an argument for the opposite.
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>>256329045
You retarded or something Nintendo has been posting profits since they been created. Even the failure virtual boy was profitable. They just recently start posting losses with the wiiu. You think the Wii u is going to make them lose all that money they stacked up for years? They aren't even in the fucking red.
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Let's study his list of accomplishments
>Helped implement the worse online stores of any company
>Was terrible at securing games throughout the wii's life and was just starting to get stuff now.
>Despite apparently pro-consumer ideas didn't help the cause at all

such a lose
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>>256332507
> Not "Now this is what I call shitposting.jpg"
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>>256332416
You are still exploring and collecting stuff while the character talk, and actually the conversations are really well done and contextual, so immersion is even better.

I'd rather have this than being literally interrupted by cutscenes with long winded text or handholding every 20 minutes in modern Zelda games. It's not like the story isn't shit or the characters have anything interesting to say anyway in Zelda.
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>>256332452

>it's the 4th worst selling Metroid

And yet it sold more than Metroid Prime: Trilogy.

>b-but that was limited

Why? Why purposely limit a game like that?
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>>256332624
A company has to fulfull certain legal requirements, like paying certain taxes and being reqistered
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>>256332507
Just like people at sony magazine reviews say DmC was the perfect game right? When it was a abomination, c'mon dude

>>256332632
So you're just a shitty troll that uses a fighting game as proof of canon
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>>256322917
That would be Reggie. From the 3ds's release he said he wasn't interested in "garage developers". This guy was fighting an uphill battle from the start.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/123973/Interview_Reggie_FilsAime_On_Garage_Devs_And_The_Value_Of_Software.php
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>>256332718
It's just ACfag, who takes every opportunity to shitpost and samefag about Other M and/or Nintendo.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna hide the thread before I start a never ending argument with a mentally retarded manchild. I suggest you do the same.
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>>256332643

Then how about this in Smash Brothers?

If they didn't support Other M, they'd stop using the Zero Suit.
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>>256323195
Do you seriously think that?
He got fired, plain and simple, but they allowed him the grace to make it seem like he left.

See seppuku for reference.
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>>256332598
I mean the people who bought the game

I can't think of anyone who played Other M and didn't shit on Nintendo for it
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>>256332834

>Just like people at sony magazine reviews say DmC was the perfect game right?

Didn't you call for the people at Sony to be murdered for that article? Why is it okay for Nintendo to do it now?
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>>256332507
>those reviews by literal nobodies
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>>256332987
The zero suit appeare befor other m you mongoloid
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>>256332987
Because the Zero Suit didn't exist before right?
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>>256332987
What the fuck are you even trying to say? How does the zero suit which first appeared in Zero Mission support Other M? How does Smash affect the canon of anything?
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>>256332657
With a company like Nintendo it's a miracle he was allowed to do anything at all. People like imagine Nintendo is some perfect, open minded company but it really isn't. Some of their policies and practices are so outdated and retarded.
>>
Has no one here ever worked like a legitimate corporate job? Or any job at all? You can't empathize with people criticizing your employers on a public forum.
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>>256332838
But look at the actual article you're posting. He says they do want indies, but not the level of shit that iOS is getting.

>"I would separate out the true independent developer vs. the hobbyist," says Fils-Aime. "We are absolutely reaching out to the independent developer."
>"Where we've drawn the line is we are not looking to do business today with the garage developer. In our view, that’s not a business we want to pursue."
>"When we talk about the value of software, it could be a great $1 piece of content or a $50 piece of content," he says. "The point is: Does it maintain its value over time or is it such disposable content that the value quickly goes to zero? … We want consumers to see value in the software, whatever that appropriate value is. And we want to see that value maintained over time."
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>>256333051
No he didn't, learn to read
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>>256333103
Nigger where the fuck is anyone saying its cool for nintendo to do it? Why do you think Sakamoto is the most hated person on nintendo by the fans? Why do you think people call for bloody murder any time he is mentioned in a metroid thread?
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>>256333245
>>256333280

Samus in her Zero Suit and/or Bikini should've never been part of the series in the first place. People who like it are supporting cancerous movie games whose sole focus is the Zero Suit.

Fanservice is for losers who hate gameplay.
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So are we sending them a card to thank them for this?
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>>256332741
Your retarded by the time metroid prime trilogy came out everyone had Bought or played Metroid prime 1,2, and play Metroid prime 3. Hell the Wii is backwards compatible with GameCube so it was even a less of a reason to buy the trilogy.
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What pisses me of the most is the Nintendogs

Not Nintendo fans. NINTENDOGS.
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>>256333401
Actually, getting the fanservice was a reward for being good
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>>256333336

>We want consumers to see value in the software, whatever that appropriate value is. And we want to see that value maintained over time."
>THE SAME MAN THAT PRAISED METROID: OTHER M

That's a laugh riot.
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>>256333401
Maybe, but what the fuck does that have anything to do with Other M's canonity
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>>256333328
It's okay as long as they get to shitpost about Nintendo.
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>>256333429
Also trilogy was a limited edition. An actual Limited edition, a Limited amount copies of it were produced.

They were producing standalone Prime 3 even after they produced Trilogy.
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>>256333430
Cry some more bitch nigga
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>>256333384

>Why do you think Sakamoto is the most hated person on nintendo by the fans?

I'll take "things that never happened" for 500 Alex.

>>256333502

Other M was allowed to be terrible because they wanted to make it nothing but fanservice. Sakamoto wanted to show off his waifu in every way possible, which is why he gutted the gameplay so we could see her out of her power suit in every cutscene.
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>>256333501
That article and conversation has nothing to do with Other M. Fuck off with your shitposting.
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>>256333602
Its even worse now that we have a neofag as mod because any thread that shows sony bullshit gets deleted
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Face it nerds, Nintendo is an evil corporation, they are not your childhood friend.

Gaben, on the other hand, is your bro for life. Have you installed Steam today?
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>>256333328
Hell, even if I worked at McDonalds I couldn't agree with customers who criticized not being able to get breakfast after a certain time while wearing the uniform/representing the company. This just solidifies the majority of /v/ has never worked or had to represent anything at all.
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>people actually defending Nintendo
Holy shit this is really Nintendogaf