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>ak 47 in the game >it has very high recoil, lowish fire

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>ak 47 in the game
>it has very high recoil, lowish fire rate and high damage
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>>255932352
>m4
>high fire rate less damage
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>>255932352
>video games
>realistic
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>M16
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>uzi
>high recoil, high spread, high firerate, high damage
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>>255933380
BUH BUH BUH
BUH BUH BUH
BUH BUH BUH
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>german guns
>efficient but expensive

>russian guns
>not accurate but cheap

>british weapons
>break after every 2 shots

>amerifat weapons
>jam after every shot, expensive as shit
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>RPG-7
>Grenade flies with a speed of thrown rock
>Randomly changes direction all the time
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>AK-47
>Picture of tacticool AK-74M
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>>255932352
7.62 AKMs do have a lot of recoil and are known for problems with muzzle climb
600 cyclical fire rate isn't impressive compared to other assault rifles
7.62 is on the higher end of intermediate cartridges

Your thread a shit.
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>>255933916
*of commonly used intermediate cartridges
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>>255933515
but that's how it was irl
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>>255932352
>shotgun that isn't a sawn-off
>ridiculously low range and mega spread
I hate video games.
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>>255932352
>put silencer on
>the gun is silent
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>put a silencer on the gun
>range and damage decreases
>is completely silent
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>>255935147
This is ultramad fuel
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>>255932352
So basically cs go
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>50/50
>Shoots half magazine and reload
>50/25
Aparently the one bullet in the chamber never existed and individual bullets are transferes via wireless to a new mag
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>>255935968
I'm sure it is if you're an autist.
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>>255933515
>Amerifat
I remember when i was 14 kiddo.
Back to /int/ and /b/ where you belong.
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>Aks 74u
>Class:smg
>artwork for it is from an airsoft gun.
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>>255933581
this 5000 times
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>>255936852
That happens in belt-fed weapons though.
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>mp40
>always the shitty average smg with low rate of fire and damage
why is mp40 so shitty in every game I've played?
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>it takes multiple rounds from an assault rifle to kill someone
>fisting them is an instakill
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>>255935147

That's because in order to make the weapons completely silent you have to pair a silencer with sub-sonic ammunition.

do u even guns???
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>AK74 in the game
>Still has the same recoil
>Still does the same damage
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>>255937593
are you kidding?

The MP40 is usually the best weapon in all the games I played
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>no game has this gun
why? It looks cool as fuck
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>>255936852
>Reload animation shows the guy just throwing the magazine into ground
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>>255937593
Maybe because in real life it has a really low rate of fire for an SMG and it still shoots a pistol cartridge.

>9mm lol
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>>255937773
i think world at war has that gun
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>>255937773
RO2
WaW
Old Medal of Honor games
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>>255932352
>MP5 is practically useless.
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>>255937072
I'm not that guy, but not only is that shit inaccurate, but it means that the game is basically punishing you for trying to be tacticool.

Not OK in my book.
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>>255937862
it wasn't as shitty an smg as games show, though. Tommygun is pretty much always better in video games
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> shotgun
> less than 2 feet range

> handling miniguns just like a handgun

> handling .50 sniper just like a handgun

> look down, no feet

> gun always on your neck

> grenade no shrapnel

FPS is so dead
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>>255932352
>shotgun
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>/k/ thread
>autism music starts playing
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>Belt-fed LMGs
>uncontrollable recoil
>most random bullet spread of every weapon type in the game
>low firerate
>It's all balanced cause you can fire more before reloading :)
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>>255937952
That's because Thompsons have the STOPPIN POWA that only .45 ACP can provide.
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>>255937773
>Literally just a Thompson sub machine gun copy n paste.
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>>255937490
Bootytickled Americunt detected.
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>>255937890
>>255937885
WaW and RO2 don'tt have that gun. You're thinking of the Japanese copy
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>AK-47
>It's an AKM
>With a Crapco stock, magazine and rail handguard
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>>255937959
You forgot bullets coming from the head instead of the end of the gun

>see the top of a head over a wall, eyes barely visible
>get shot
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>>255932352
>implying you neckbeards know jackshit about guns
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>>255933515
>>255938081
Enjoy your ban kiddo.
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>>255938168
it's not rocket science, faggot
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>>255938168
Conscription, ho!

You're a faggot.
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>Alien gun
>Projectiles are green
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>>255937659
Still not completely silent and it makes bullet drop atrocious. It's more of a loud thud rather than a pfft like the movies

Its good for urban shoot and scoot maneuvers where loud gunfire covers you, but it won't do Jack shit to mask any cqc sneeki breeki
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>>255933454
Fucking kikes are behind this one...
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>>255932352
>ARMA 2
>ak 74 and other varients
>shooting people with pebbles
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>>255936852
Titanfall give you a limited number of magazines instead of numbered ammo.
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Literally no games with this underrated as fuck gun
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>>255933515
You think that is painful or something.

Try liking World War II tanks and playing World of Tanks, a F2P MMO made by RUSSIANS.

Try to have fun grinding that awesome german Tank Destroyer for a couple weeks just to see a fucking KV get three shoots on a side while he faces his turret at you and kills you in one shot.

Im sure you didn´t grind for a month to get a fucking Tiger just to shoot 4 times into some IS ass and watch your shoots ricochet.

That is true suffering.
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>>255938128
That isn't a PPSH-41?
Oh, just noticed the filename.
What's the difference?
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>>255933916
> 7.62 AKM
> a lot of recoil
> short 7.62 round
> a lot of recoil
>> 600 rpm isn't impressive
> average is about 650
> 700 and higher is only achieved on small-caliber shitstains
> games show AK at 350 the very best and give M4A1 something like 900
> b-but your thread is shit
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>>255938258
Finrand, Russia or Kebab?
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i dont playing anything thats slighty like cod

only braindead people do
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>>255938357
It also has +1 round in the chamber if you reload without emptying the magazine and it won't charge the weapon unless you're doing a full reload.
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>>255938058
>MP 18
>designed in 1916
>Thompson submachine gun
>designed in 1917
HAHAHA go to bed /k/iddo.
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>>255938370
>tfw no game about Winter War
>tfw can't mow down russian conscripts using human wave tactics in the freezing cold
shitty mods don't count

>>255938474
Take guess.
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>>255938370
>ROOST
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>>255938370
>Literally just a Thompson sub machine gun ripoff.
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>>255938386
learn 2 aim for weak spots in the armor, and stop shooting tracks like a moron

> and kills you in one shot.
German TDs have a giant weak spot right in the front for visibility purposes and due to their design you get fucked no matter what if you get hit there.
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>>255938394
did you seriously mistake the mp18 for the papasha?

I may not know much about guns but I didn't know /v/ was THIS pleb
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>>255938552
>Take a guess

Prkl prkl
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>>255936852
I always imagine that every soldier has an ammo pouch of some sort in their chest and whenever the gun needs reloading, the soldier just scoops some bullets from the pouch with his mag and the bullets magically align the right way
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>fire a gun in a game
>it goes "BANG"

fucking why?
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>>255938539
>>255938058
Both came out the same year you ignorant cunts.
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>>255937959
>>255938161
It hurts to live.
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>>255933380
I CARRIED AN EM SIX TEEN-
I CARRIED AN EM SIX TEEN-
I CARRIED AN EM SIX TEEN-
I CARRIED AN EM SIX TEEN-
I CARRIED AN EM SIX TEEN-
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>>255938607
That gun is nothing like Thompson.

Do you even know anything about guns, or are you calling every old SMG a thompson clone for le laughs?
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>>255938629
it looks like ppsha

fuck off autist
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>>255937072
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>>255937952
>>255938052
>Tommygun is pretty much always better in video games
>Most shooters are made by amerifucks
gee makes you wonder huh
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>>255938802
>Nothing like the Thompson
Isn't it naptime Olaf?
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>People that compare AKM or even simply AK made in 50's (literally) to M4A1 or M16A4 made a couple of years ago with modern technology
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>>255937593
it was the best SMG in CoD2 and in WolfET
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>>255938618
Dude I´m talking about right before beta ended.
I watched videos and images of KV weak spots HUNDRED times and that shit still happened at least 70% of times.

It was true infuriating, now I don´t play much but I heard it is better and the KV was split into two tanks.
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>shoot gun
>bullets come out diagonally

CS:GO is the best gun simulator
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> shoot someone in the leg with 7.62 no matter what exact cartridge
> or .45
> or 10mm
> person slightly flinches and walks away like nothing happened
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>>255938470
Get out of here potassium
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>>255938927
>this_is_bait.jpg
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>>255938907
See you in 3 days kiddo.
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>>255938942
You literally just shoot KVs in their turret ring to kill them or in the back of their turret.


Also, you shouldn't be getting spotted if you're a TD unless you're the last one alive. Stop tryign to be rambo in WoT with a tank that wasn't made for it
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>>255938738
but that's wrong
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>shoot red barrel
>it explores
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>>255939153
Do your research before shitposting.
See you in 3 days kiddo
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>put a silencer on a M9
>glitch makes it functionally useless
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>>255939246
hello MW2
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>ak47
>more damage more recoil
>m16
>less damage less recoil
>machine guns using higher calibre rounds than some rifles do less damage
>sniper rifles are almost never one hit kills to the torso
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>>255938918
Then please tell me, what makes the M31 a Thompson clone? Obviously they're both SMG's but that's about it
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>>255938470
>implying 7.62 doesn't have a lot of recoil for application in assault rifles
>implying AKMs aren't famous for excessive muzzle climb
>very simple action that pounds the carrier into the back of the gun and gives a more severe feeling of recoil
>below average cyclic rate of fire
Be less butthurt, slavaboo OP. I love, build and shoot them but I'm willing to admit the platform has design drawbacks. Also, games are an approximation of real life so get over it.

Your thread still a shit, go molest your nugget in the corner.
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>>255937490
>>255938219
>>255939117
fuck off
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>Sniper rifle is the most OP weapon in the game
>It doesn't matter where it hits you it will always 1 hit KO.
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>>255939360
>pls spoonfeed me so i can strawman and damage control
Ya nah, if you can't see the difference both aesthetically and technically, then fuck off you little fat cunt.
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>>255937593
Play RO2 and mow down Ruskies with it for the Fatherland
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>>255939349
fucking battlefield
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>>255939521
>see the difference
>aesthetically
confirmed noguns retard
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>>255939241
y-you too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP_18
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun
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>MGO2
>P90
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>>255939094
People in action movies always get shot ONLY in their hips, shoulders or their sides (no vital organs or bones hit) and they always run afterwards.

If you jump away from the explosion your limbs won't fly away that's for sure.
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>>255932352
>M16
>always an upgrade from the AK-47
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>>255938918
>Suomis are ripoffs of Thompsons
This is almost as retarded as people saying Kalashnikovs are a ripoff of the Stg44. The two guns have nothing in common aside from application and the fact they make pieces of metal go real, real fast.
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>7.62 real fucking NATO uses the same ammo pool as 7.62x39

>Shotguns are glorified party poppers at 10 feet

>Reloads that take 3 seconds and charges the handle every time

AKs always spray and ARs are tack drivers

>Hollow points still do extra damage against armoured opponents

Icanteven.exe
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>>255933515
heh, good thing this isn't /k/
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>>255939635
Ah let's see here.
1918, and uhhhh 1918.
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>255932352
>AK-47
>it's actually an AKM

also

>AK-74
>exact same specs as AK-47
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>>255938767
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>>255939470
sniper rifles shouldn't even be featured in 90% of video games.
Most FPS game maps are too fucking small for sniper rifles and thus you always get faggots sitting in a corner and sniping people across the map

Sniper rifles are well balanced in games/mods like Arma and Project Reality, where the sniper must have some actual patience and skill to evade enemies to get kills.
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>>255939470
Well to be honest that is something done right, because most likely you'll lose a limb after it will hit you there.
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>>255939689
Because it is.
Anyone who says that the AK47 is a good weapons, needs to kill themselves.
AK47 is one of the worst guns of all time.
Hence why only African warloads and sandnigger Islamic groups use it.
No 1st world country in the world, uses the ak47.
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>>255939641
> hipshot is not a guaranteed incapacitation with a heavy risk of vein being severed
Fucking Hollywood.
>>255939705
Here we go, someone will now claim that AK is a StG ripoff.
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>>255932352
>Switch to a shotgun
>Pump the action for no reason

It looks badass, sure, but this rustles me like nothing else
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>>255939705
>This is almost as retarded as people saying Kalashnikovs are a ripoff of the Stg44
But it is you fucking retarded slavic cunt.
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>>255939521
>aesthetically
confirmed for a trolling pleb who knows jack shit about weapons
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>reload mag half-way
>31 bullets
>it's an open bolt gun
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>>255939879
Enjoy your jams and low power output m8.
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>>255933454
The (non-micro) Uzi was pretty delicious in GTA IV though
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>game features golden camouflage
>only shitty kike and slav weapons get it
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>>255934241
German and American weapons are pretty much expensive trash. They work well provided they are not in an environment with any dirt, mud, or anything at all.
So are Russian weapons. The reason people believe this myth that Russian weapons are 100% perfect is because back when the AK-47 came out it was some major high-tech shit that shit on every AR out at the time. Even Russians have abandoned the AK design and have moved on, but everyone still gobbles its cock despite it being as efficient and worth the money as a Deagle Brand Dougle.

France and UK are shit though, as always.
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>>255938294
Hahahahahahahhaahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah
>makes bullet drop

Ask me how I know you're a fucking retard

>HURR SINCE SILENCERS IN GAMES MAKE BOOLIT DROP IT MUST HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE

You're a nogunz faggot
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>>255939879
>No 1st world country in the world, uses the ak47

Finland does.
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>>255932352
>SPAS-12
>only in pump-action
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>>255940069
I'm pretty sure he meant the "sub-sonic ammunition" part, and not the silencer.
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>>255940001
Good luck not being able to hit anything Vasili.
German guns are best guns.
Slavshit guns, are low quality garbage.
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>>255940069
>subsonic rounds travel the same distance as normal ones
>le hahahahahahah meme
back to /r/guns
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>>255939873
>Most FPS game maps are too fucking small for sniper rifles
> you always get faggots sniping people across the map

Do you even think before posting?

>you always get faggots sitting in a corner

You don't need snipers for people to use their brain and let the enemy walk into their traps

> where the sniper must have some actual patience and skill to evade enemies to get kills.
0/10, you can sit 1000+ m away in arma 2 and snipe people with barely any problems and never have to worry unless they have a friend already next to you
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Ak-47 kill with 2 or 3 shots but sub-machine guns take a 3rd of a mag to kill an opponent.

Seriously what the fuck? In reality an smg would be just as devastating as a rifle, in fact even more effective at close range considering it has a higher fire rate.
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>>255940020
>German and American weapons are pretty much expensive trash
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I wonder how /k/ feels about CS:GO.
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>>255939989
> visual resemblance == same thing
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>>255940109
>Semi auto shotguns might as well be firing polystyrene worms due to awful everything
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>>255940141
>M16
>german gun

Also, I assume you do realize most engagements are in 150m tops, where the AK is still very much accurate?
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ITT /v/ pretends it is /k/
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>>255940236
Pick your poison and tell me why I'm wrong after 12 years of gunsmithing.
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>>255940106
>Finland
>1st world
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>>255939879
Its relaible as shit u queerlord. Only reason they are inaccurate is retard conscripts spray that gun on full auto and the riflings been worn out by corrosoive primers.

You have no idea what 1st and 3rd world means. Also the nordic countries that use AK variants would like a chat


Also richer more developed countries don't use them becuase american lobbying for the 5.56 and their guns require more maintence
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>>255940106
Finland has always made actually good and high quality versions of slav weapons but you can't really call the RK95 a kalashnikov clone
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>>255940141
>german guns are best guns
>he doesn't remember how absolutely shit MP40 was lel
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>>255940245
Why don't you ask them? Usually they're pretty cool about vidya.

Heard they love STALKER.
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>Start reload animation
>Jump over shit
>animation skipped. Full mag ready to fire

Reload once: 30
Reload again: 31

Little things i like about the last two battlefields
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>>255939989
>They look similar, that mean's they're the same!

Except they're completely different, you cunt.

>Different gas systems
>Different trigger systems
>Different bolt designs
>Completely different receiver designs
>Completely different takedown procedure


What the Soviets did was copy the German's advances in stamping in order to make the AKM.
The original AK-47 was milled, and consequently was heavy as fuck and expensive to make.
So they went to the captured German engineers and asked them to assist the Soviet engineers in advancing Soviet stamping technology.
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>>255939989

You couldn't be more wrong.

lrn2guns
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>>255940309
>Litteraly strawmanning
Where did the debate of m16vs ak47 come into the discussion?
Well it didn't, the discussion was teh AK47 and most slavshit weapons in general, are utter garbage.
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>>255940069
sub human reading comprehension. why is this happening more and more often.
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>>255940305
>semi auto shotgun
>requires to dump half a fucking mag to kill
Yeah.
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>>255940106

>1st world country

well yeah, what's your point?
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>>255939741
>MP 18
>Designed 1916
>Produced 1918–1920s
>In service 1918–1945

>Thompson submachine gun
>Designed 1917–1920
>Produced 1921–present
>In service 1938–1971
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>this thread
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>LMG
LOW damage but high rate of fire and 100 bullets in a belt.
M60 also differs from it because it's rate of fire is slow.
also
>RPD instead of RPK
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>>255940383
It's practically a domestically produced variant of the AK.
Disassemble and RK95 and an AKM and they're identical.

You're argument would have held up if we were talking about the Sig 550 or the FN FNC.
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>>255939689
just like real life

:^)
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>>255940187
Have you ever played project reality?
Snipers have to constantly move from spot to spot or they'll get fucked up by artillery and helicopters. At most, they can get two kills before the targeted squad gets the fuck out of view and marks the spot for mortars
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>>255940245
CSGO is trash
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>>255940383
But it is a kalashnikov clone. Not even an AKM clone, but a polish license AK-47 clone. It's just superior in quality, as is our ammo.

>>255940328
>>255940590
>look mom I posted it again!
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>>255940636
> LMG
> low damage
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>>255940649
I can't speak for project reality, but being a sniper in arma is easy as shit as long as you don't stand in an open field
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>>255940541
>mfw I'm talking with a retard with alzheimers
I have absolutely no idea where you came up with the german guns shit but read the posts, m80.
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>>255940012

>arab_money.mp3
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>>255938961
>spraying
literal cod kiddie
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>>255940328
>>255940590
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>>255940636
>LMG
>Medium damage
>Medium fire rate
>High mag capacity
>Range of a lawnmower
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>>255940325
>Gunsmiths
>Understanding anything about the design process of a field weapon
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>>255938046
>belt fed LMG
>run out of ammo
> you clearly see an ammo belt coming from the magasine
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>>255932352
>semi-auto sniper rifles are weaker than bolt-action

>sniper rifles have absolutely shit accuracy when firing from the hip
>the second you aim down sights they're pinpoint
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I dont know much about guns

Any FAL bros around?
I loved that gun in MW2
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Aren't pistol catridges supposed to be more powerful than intermediate cartridges?
I mean 9mm is bigger than 7.62 and 5.56/5.45 etc.
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>>255932352
>MG
>can't use the bipod
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>>255941231
Good god no. The bullets of rifles weigh more and have much more energy behind them.
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>>255941231
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>>255941231
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>>255940020
you just said that all guns of that period were shit/trash
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>>255941489
what about Finnish and Italian guns?
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>>255940872
CS is the original CoD for kiddies
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>>255941231
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>>255940245
Nobody cares about CS:GO because hitboxes are awful and rather than have recoil the bullets just start flying upwards, as well as shit server tick rates
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>>255941231
Uh... sure.
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>>255941231
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>>255941931
>shit server tick rates
I'd only honestly forgive everything else about the game if I could just play team comp with bros on 100 tick servers.
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>>255941094
FAL bro here too
Don't know why I like it. Something about Battle Rifles that don't look like Mk17s or M14s just appeal to me.
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>>255941231
What the fuck did I just read.
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>>255933581
>Peace Walker
>Fire Carl Gustav for the first time
>"Did it just explode in midair right after I fired it or something?"
>No, it just reaches its target almost instantly
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>>255932352
>no separate animations for empty and tactical reload
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>>255940959
>A gunsmith is a person who repairs, modifies, designs, or builds guns.
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>Try and shoot someone who's right in front of you
>Character tries to melee instead
>They move out melee range as you click, so you don't hit them
>Can't choose to shoot without meleeing if they're at close range

>Enemies have this problem too
>Run back when they melee, get within range as it ends
>Keep doing this
>Enemy gets stunlocked

>Enemy sees you from a distance, and is holding an automatic gun
>Instead of trying to aim at you they spray wildly and none of their shots hit
>Their gun should easily hit you if they actually tried to aim
>At long enough ranges you can walk confidently around and they can't do shit
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>Have 970/999 ammo
>Find 50 rounds on the ground
>Pick up 29 of them
>The other 21 disappear forever

>Or even worse, you can't pick any up because you don't have room for all of them
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>>255940020
>Even Russians have abandoned the AK design and have moved on
No you dipshit
>Bizon: an SMG chambered AK!
>Saiga: a shotgun AK!
>Val/Vintorez: an AK with integrated suppressor!
>Groza: a bullpup AK!
>100 series: an AK now in fancy tacticool black plastic and with piccatini planks!
>Abakan: alright there's some progress but fuck you no Abakans for footsoldiers, only Spetsnaz
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>>255941231
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>>255942635
>>Abakan: alright there's some progress
Backwards progress, maybe. They put a pulley inside the rifle. A FUCKING PULLEY.
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>>255940020
>France and UK are shit though, as always.
>UK
>shit

Im sorry, I cant hear you over the sound of my longest range confirmed kills.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_International_AWM
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>modern shooter
>the guns are based off airsoft guns

nice aks-74u cod4
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>>255937593
>this guy's never played CoD: WaW
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>>255942884
AFAIK it has some cheeky breeky tricky gas operation that allows shooting 2 bullets in extremely rapid succession
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>>255941663
don't make me laugh, please
the same goes with nipponese trash folded over 9000 times
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>>255942635
>>Val/Vintorez: an AK with integrated suppressor!

but that's wrong you fucking retard
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best assault rifle coming through
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>>255943138
Yeah, but it's way too complicated for such a thing. And the magazine is off-center. Not a serious issue, but... goddamn.
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>>255932352
Fallschirmjägergewehr 42, anybody?
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>the AK-74 is an SMG
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>>255938750
play better fps games, they're out there if you aren't waiting to be spoonfed
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>>255943537
it's off-center for a reason though

>>255943671
>the AK74U is an SMG
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>>255943671
>AK-74 is an assault rifle
>an AK-74 with a shorter barrel and a folding stock is an SMG
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>>255942635
VSS guns aren't part of the AK platform.
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>>255943573
The sexiest.
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>>255943446
I always found the AUG super cool, It just looks so slick and smooth
too bad it sucks in pretty much every game
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>>255938723
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>>255944276
In one of the Syphon Filter games on the PS1 it was a supergun that could see and shoot through walls, no matter how thick

Ridiculous.
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>sniper rifle
>bullet drop after barely 100m when modern rifles can shoot up to 2km without drops

i know balance reasons but its still bullshit
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>>255933454
>dat suppressed Uzi in BC2
>dat unsuppressed one in BC2: Vietnam

GOAT gun
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>>255944954
Every bullet starts dropping more or less immediately after leaving the barrel. That's why you range your sights.

Granted, bullet drop is too big in games like Battlefield. Even if it wasn't, you still would change your sights between targets beyond 100m and 2000m.
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>>255944954

>2km without bullet drop

wat?
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>>255941231
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>90 ammo
>fire 5 shots
>85 ammo, 30 round magazines
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> PPSh is not an uncontrollable broomstick of death
Why even live.
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>>255943446
It fucking sucks actually.
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>>255945747
i forgot
>reload
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>>255943120
>mp40 drum
>juggernaut
I AM BECOME DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS
NO ONE CAN STOP ME NOW, FOOLISH MORTALS
HOW DOES IT FEEL HAVING A GOD ON THE BATTLEFIELD
way OP but unless you play with scrubs someone will shut you down soon enough
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>>255942616
>Watch someone else play a puzzle game you already finished.gif
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>>255943143
Fingrish weapons were good though
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>>255938907
MP40's weren't that fantastic honestly. The Germans preferred Russian SMG's over them.

And the Tommygun had its faults but it was a very good SMG for the time.
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>>255946810
What do you mean, were

we still make them

http://www.tikka.fi/t3rifles.php
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>>255941231
Yep. That's why the US army is tossing away the obsolete big calibers and are now going for the smaller round that does just as much damage, while being much lighter, so you can carry more of them.
Took them long to figure it out.

Pic is the newest prototype they're testing and most likely soon gonna be adopting - the M82-9
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>>255946810
>finnish weapons
>basically a mix of american, german and russian weapons
only Suomi and some obscure handguns/machineguns were invented by them
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>>255947654
>invented
I meant designed
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>any WWII flamethrower in vidya
>shoots a stream of flames instead of fire and flammable liquid
>reaches just over an arm's length at best in most cases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpE3OgTNq5M
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>>255947847
Red orchestra 2, Rising Storm.

It's fucking OP though. Being on fire shouldn't outright kill you, just search liveleak for "self-immolation". It sure as hell wouldn't stop someone running a bayonet through you if they were close enough.
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>>255937490
>americucks in charge of handling banter
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>>255947654
they improved all of the Russian weapons they got their yellow hands into and made them better. I wouldn't say their weapons sucked
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>>255947159
>The Germans preferred Russian SMG's over them.
PPSh-41 and PPD-40 maybe, but earlier PPDs and mass-produced PPS were ultra-shit tier. Eastern front was also poorly supplied and they couldn't rely solely on their own firearms.
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>>255948481
You can only improve mass-produced shit so far though.
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>>255947847
this
if you got sprayed with fuel and set on fire there was no fucking hope for you
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>>255948839
Wait, are you implying that some countries use hand-made guns? What do you think mass-producing means?

In any case, on the field right now, RK-95s are superior to the american counterparts. I heard from /k/ that americans still use magazines from the first gulf war, and they've been worn to shit. The rifles themselves are old too... but then again, so are ours.
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>>255941931
This.
Also the game gets even worse every time it goes on sale, smurfs and hackers everywhere. It being on sale every 2 weeks doesnt help either
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>>255943573
great rifle yet problematic (too "strong" amunition), german paratroopers often choosed stg44 instead made specially for them FG42's
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>>255933515
>french weapon
>most OP in the game

holy shit famas dayum.
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>>255949668
>Wait, are you implying that some countries use hand-made guns?
Many countries did, hand-made and often custom firearms for officers, specialists (veteran marksmen etc.) and commandos for example.

>What do you think mass-producing means?
I know what you mean. The difference is you can assemble a quality gun or make 10 shitty greasers for human wave.

>In any case, on the field right now, RK-95s are superior to the american counterparts.
I'm not defending american guns, let's just be honest and say that finnish weapons during WW2 were mostly re-designs of other (mostly cheap and shitty) guns.
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>VSS fires a cartridge in 9x39
>Bullet is fuckhuge, even larger than what the ak fires
>OH IT IS 9MM IN DIAMETER AND ONLY SMGS AND PISTOLS SO LETS CONSIDER IT AN SMG
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>>255950892
KP-31, m/26, L-35 and L-39 were original designs to my knowledge. As for our main rifle, the barrels were from Germany - and the mosin-nagant isn't "shitty" to begin with. Then we had lots of guns that we captured from the Soviets

You're just full of shit.
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>>255947643
:^)
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Can we all agree that FN makes the best weapons in the world?
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>>255951930
Yes.
>tfw no fnc
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>>255951930
No, Anon.
H&K does.
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>>255951930
>FN
>not Norinco
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>>255952094
>lolH&Knostoppinpowah.webm
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>>255952305
>Norinco
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>>255952463
>implying Type 56 isn't the best gun ever
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top tier, no disputes
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>>255952414
>stopping power is due to the gun and not ammo
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>>255951679
>KP-31 (Suomi), m/26 (machinegun), L-35 (handgun, based on luger) and L-39 (anti-tank rifle) were original designs to my knowledge
>only Suomi and some obscure handguns/machineguns were designed by them
I may be full of shit but you should learn to read, friend.

>mosin-nagant isn't "shitty" to begin with
While the design itself isn't shitty, I assure you that the average rifle for average Boris was a piece of junk with a wooden stock. I live in eastern europe so I know.
>b-but m-muh nugget
Don't listen to /k/, don't believe their lies.
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>>255937593

>i haven't played Return to Castle Wolfenstein
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>>255952645
That's not a moist nugget.
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>>255952639
You misspelled VSS
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>>255953156
Norinco doesn't make VSS lol.
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>>255952928
>only Suomi and some obscure handguns/machineguns were designed by them
Well what the fuck do you expect?

>While the design itself isn't shitty, I assure you that the average rifle for average Boris was a piece of junk with a wooden stock
Irrelevant. They could've kept the quality if they wanted to, it would've just cost more.
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>>255938918
>olaf
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>>255942616
>Or even worse, you can't pick any up because you don't have room for all of them
What? That's better. Unless it's a game where I desperately need every bullet, I would turn on a "only pick up shit if you can get the max benefit" at all times.
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>>255937906
9mm vs body armor

guess which one wins
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>>255953764
>Well what the fuck do you expect?
No reason to get bottom befuddled anon, all I'm saying is their firearms were nothing special.

>Irrelevant.
Irrelevant when it comes to the design itself. Considering actual weapons that were used by actual soldiers during an actual war, soviet rifles were shit, if only because of their lack of quality. Still.

>They could've kept the quality if they wanted to, it would've just cost more.
Well no shit. They also wouldn't arm every poor slav they dragged onto their 'conscription trucks'.
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>>255954498
9mm
Unless you are playing a video game, a burst into the chest, while (mostly) not lethal, will blow you down due to the sheer force of impact.
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>>255954498
9mm because it will crack your rib or cause rupturing
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>>255954646
>No reason to get bottom befuddled anon, all I'm saying is their firearms were nothing special.
The obscurity is only the result of our size. Besides, saying that they're nothing special is an understatement. I mean, how many automatic shoulder fired 20mm anti-tank rifles on skii's do you know, other than the L-39? The automatic was an anti-air version, but nonetheless...

>Considering actual weapons that were used by actual soldiers during an actual war, soviet rifles were shit, if only because of their lack of quality. Still.
Obviously, but what does this have to do with superior quality Finnish rifles based on the same design?
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>>255947847
>clapclapclapclapWoooclapclapclapWooWoo!

Sometimes I feel embarrassed to live in America
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>>255954498
Depends on what range. If it's anything above 40m then it's gonna be like an airsoft bb
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>mfw there are only 2 games with the Ar-10, one being a piece of shit, and one being good but impossible to use since everyone hogs the marksman class
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>>255955821
are you talking about PR?
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>>255943825
I do, its just the majority are full of that shit.
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>>255956070
Yes.
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>>255954498
Just because a bullet doesn't fully penetrate doesn't mean it can't incapacitate you

>yfw getting shot with a pistol caliber while wearing a vest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dAMURPVDxk
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>>255956560
>mfw soldiers wear bp vests fighting enemies that use the 7.62 cals
It makes about as much sense as wearing a safety helmet while driving 300kph in a lightweight car.
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>>255956923
If those vests are Type III or above, it does make sense. However, vests degrade from multiple hits.
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>>255955494
>The obscurity is only the result of our size.
Not really, development of a superior firearm would spark a lot of attention. Major players just forwarded more funds into military research.

>I mean, how many automatic shoulder fired 20mm anti-tank rifles on skii's do you know, other than the L-39?
I know a lot of anti-tank rifles, including Boys anti-tank rifle that was designed two years earlier than L-39. Skis? Come on, how are you going to move that thing in a country with shitty infrastructure? Trucks wouldn't cut it, and wheels would get stuck in snow during winter.

>Obviously, but what does this have to do with superior quality Finnish rifles based on the same design?
Nothing really, I already said that the design itself wasn't bad. I guess you mean the guy you started the argument with.
Redesigned rifles still don't really count as 'national oc, donut steel' though.
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>>255956923
Pretty much, but I think military vests are also meant to counter shrapnel and possibly stop bullets hitting them from certain angles.
Obviously a rifle round at a flat angle is going to punch through the vest like butter, but at an angle the armor can catch a round that would otherwise kill you and would instead ricochet off or slide across the armor (it is more common than you think for bullets to slide along some materials depending on the angle of impact only doing minor penetration) resulting in blunt trauma / broken ribs instead of death.
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>>255957326
>Not really, development of a superior firearm would spark a lot of attention
It takes considerable amount of time to realize superiority. After all, soldiers kept running to machine guns for years in WW1, and for example, Hitler didn't like the idea of a semi-automatic rifle. People doubted Maxim machine guns too at first. As for if Finnish guns were superior, the m/26 was kinda special because it could use a 75rd drum mag - in 1926. I don't know of any other LMG that could do the same at that point in time. MG 34 is sometimes credited for being the father of LMGs, but the m/26 could've done the same years earlier. Of course, there were flaws like the number of parts and the small clearances.

>how are you going to move that thing in a country with shitty infrastructure?
By a crew, of course. It was heavy, but it was moved nonetheless. And the ski's helped in snow, obviously.
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>>255958221
M/26 also used 20rd magazines - just like, for instance, Browning M1918, which was designed in 1917. Are you sure that the 75rd drum wasn't added much later? You make it sound like LMG drug was designed by the Finnish.
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>>255959585
The 75 round drum actually was never used, at least by the FDF. For some reason it wasn't delivered to the army. It could've been jamtastic as shit, too, who knows.

Oh, what could've been.
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>>255959823
We could live in a world without jews.
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>>255938386
Shit you must suck if you think German TDs are bad.
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