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When did indie become synonyms with shit?

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When did indie become synonyms with shit?
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>>255931374
And yet it's the best choice we have for video games.
What a sad world we live in.
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>>255931374
The fuck is this?
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>When did indie become synonyms with shit?

The first indie game.
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Cave story?
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Around 2008, why?
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Liberalism.

"Ill scrap the gameplay and add all the social commentary"
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>>255931374
When it became mainstream
When engines like UE4 and CryEngine3 extremely cheap and yet indies keep making "pixel art" (which is actually bad pixel art)
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Fuck that garbage, I much rather play games I've been playing for 10 years then touch a "pixel art" indie trash
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>>255931518
art
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John Blow comes to mind
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>>255931374
Isnt this from some game about rioting that was supposed to come out awhile ago?
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>>255931518
http://riotsimulator.org/

Looks kinda fun
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>>255931605
>I-It's the liberals!
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When did gays own the color spectrum?
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>>255931684
Yeah, I've been waiting for it to come out since I've seen some teaser thing.
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>>255931606
>CryEngine3
Im still waiting on some hotass games.
Maybe another Project Nomads.
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>>255931518

Riot Simulator

It looks fun.
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When games started prioritizing social commentary and artsy fartsy shit instead of gameplay. Games that still go for gameplay end up great so you get good stuff like Killing Floor, Battleblock, GMod, Sam & Max, MNC... The list goes on, really
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this looks so stupid
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>>255931681
It's going to be aged as fuck when it comes out
>No Ukraine riots
>No Libya riots
>No Greece riots
>No Argentina riots
>No Brazil riots
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>>255931714
>I-its the rich white males!
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When americans started doing it
prove me wrong
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indie games are the best games, are you fucking retarded?

name a single good AAA title this year
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>>255931374
After IGTM
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>>255931970
When nonamericans started doing it
prove me wrong
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>>255931976
You're right anon. Indie games are masterpieces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxPrXDQ4XlU
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>>255931374
When you decided that popular indie games are all that indie games are and will be.

People have shit taste in AAA, you think it won't be worse wit indie?
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>>255932248
still sold more copy than your weab garbage, lol
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>>255932202
Cave story.
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>>255931976
>>255932248
woops
I just took the first video I saw. Didn't knew it was not what it says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9qlm8olmn0
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>>255932202
Limbo
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>>255932398
THIS IS THE FACE OF REDDIT
RATHER A WEEABOO
THAN A DIRTY JEW
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>>255931605
That isn't a "gay Pride" flag, it's a Spanish Indigenous flag
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>>255931914
This shit wouldn't be so pathetic if you weren't a poor barely-white barely-male.
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>>255932558
Anon, das l-lewd.
anymore?
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>>255932558
Is this only a picture set or is there a video?
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>>255931374
>hurr durr muh homosexual militantism

literal cancer
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Not as good as imagined.
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>>255932684
you're the one to force identity politics, faggot
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So instead of shitposting, let's take this opportunity to talk about some good indie games.
Here's my list
Achron
Cave Story
Megabyte Punch
Strike Vector
Ikaruga
Iji
Yume Nikki
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fun
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>>255932909
I think it was just one example, they mentioned the Ukrainian and Brazil riots as inspiration on the blog.
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>>255932708
>>255932885
Here's her tumblr
http://sutiblr.tumblr.com/
>>255932995
stop using words you don't get kiddo
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>>255931374

When Gone home became popular.
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>>255932909
>durr durr rainbows are for gays
hahahahaha looks like they won in america
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>>255933104
>>stop using words you don't get
>kiddo

speak for yourself, faggot
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>>255933192
they did m8
and it's coming to the europe, whether you like it or not
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>OP deliberately using a pixel art style game that includes the rainbow flag to "prove" his point
>implying this isn't going to turn into a sjw thread because dumb retarded faggots associated rainbows with gays

0/10 you didn't get me OP.
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>>255931374
so this game lets me beat up dumb leftists right?
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>>255933195
>faggot
again stop saying words you don't get you filthy teenager
>>255933269
sure sure whatever you say you dumb cunt
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>>255931374
Since Minecraft shit hit the fan.
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>>255933357
>being this mad
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>>255932597
Spanish indigenous are gay?
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>>255931374
Indie went to shit when people realized they could make a really cheap ass game to not only put the message out about whatever their retarded view is but also make money at the same time.
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What indie games are you playing?
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>>255933357
u mad bro?
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STALKER IS THE BEST INDIE GAME EVER MADE PROVE ME WRONG U MAD FAGGOTS LAWLS
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>>255931684
>>255931837
>riot simulator
So I get to beat up those hippies, right?
Because I want to beat up those hippies.
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>>255933518
Divinity OS
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When people with no background or knowledge about development started to make games.
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>>255933426
>>255933531
mad? just calling it how i see it. why did you post that twice?
you niggers could at least appreciate the bondage i gave you but nooooo you're too fucking pleb to even get what's hot about it
messiah of the rodents
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>>255933518
Skullgirls
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>>255931374

when Pre-Release Alpha became synonymous with finished product and you fags kept giving them money.

Probably Minecraft
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>>255933758
But that's what indie game development has always been. The problem is a widespread lack of any originality.

Or in other words, video games got popular. Indie wasn't unaffected.
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>>255933430
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Cusco
I'm sure they have more right than anybody else to be mad that gay people took their own emblem and popularized it as their own
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>>255933518
AI war fleet command
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>>255931606
>unreal engine
>good
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>>255931374

When they realized they could get away with it and still make dosh.

Like "modern art".
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>>255933518
Just finished Bunny Must Die. Not perfect, but at least it tries to do something interesting with the metroidvania style.
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>>255933963
It's always so cute seeing kids post stuff like this.
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>>255933027
>megabyte punch
Sounds pretty cool. What's it about?
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>>255933932
Nah
Before the kickstarter flooding some actual money was needed, raising the entry level.
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>>255931374
it's literally always been that way literally
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>>255933952
He never said UE was good you illerate faggot, just that it's more accessible.
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>>255933027
ikaruga isn't indie you 'tard
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>>255934061
Smash knockoff where you choose parts that change your character's moveset and attributes. Decent campaign too, definitely better if you have someone to play it with though.
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>>255933518
They Bleed Pixels. Not bad. No porn, sadly. I'd like to see more games doing stuff with the cthulhu mythos that isn't just 'lol, cthullu!'. I'd like a puzzle/exploration game based off of At the Mountains of Madness, personally.

But anyways my only real gripe with it is the controls are a little wonky.
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>>255934061
Imagine Smash Bros but full fledged story mode and you're robots and you can swap out your limbs and the limbs you have correlate to the smash moves you have.
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>>255933104

fuck off tumblr your raid ended a month ago with /b/ triggering the shit out of all your faggot friends
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>new cool looking indie game
>it's another roguelike
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>>255934085
But that's wrong you fucking retard. Most indie games are and were made in people's spare time.

And kickstarter isn't really indie because they aren't being independently funded.
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>>255933518
Elona+
>not marrying your dog
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>>255931374
You mean synonymous you fucking cretin.
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>>255931374
>When did indie become synonyms with shit?

when it became clear that a game would sell better and would be critically praised if it was "a project about something" rather than just by being a fun game. there are notable exceptions, but they are few and far between

sadly, even with their generally low quality, some indie games still end up being better than a lot of AAA titles
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>>255934637
what you mean to say is
>new cool looking indie game
>call itself a roguelike but has nothing to do with roguelikes
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>>255934473
>>255934559
>Smash bros with interchangable robot parts
Medabots game when?
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>>255934654
And it somehow make the cost 0?
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>Every indie/pc game is now a X-simulator
Fuck this fad.
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>>255933027
Machinarium, Limbo, Dustforce, Volgarr The Viking, FTL, Papers Please, Legend of Grimrock, La-Mulana, Super Meat Boy, Koumajou Densetsu, Long Live The Queen, Mark of the Ninja.
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>>255931374
When retards like you started thinking indie means pixelated games.
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>>255934814
Unless you take a literal interpretation of time=money, yeah.
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>>255935031
>When retards like you started thinking indie means pixelated games.
indie means more "artsy fartsy" than pixeshit, although more than likely they are pixelshit
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>>255933027
Arma series
Divinity Original Sin

have been enjoying these alot. Great quality, unparralleled gameplay.
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>>255935372
>indie means more "artsy fartsy" than pixeshit
No it doesn't.
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>>255935490
yes, yes it does
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>>255935372
Indie means independent. Stop littering it with your poor education.
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>>255935372
Sure is artsy fantasy in here.
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Pixel Piracy, in Early Access, sold more copies than Persona. 4

aaahahahahah weabs BTFO
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>>255935559
And hipster means to be cool and trendy, but people mean it as to describe some faggot who only likes unpopular shit
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when really crappy feelhard devs realized they could ship a turd if they wrapped it in feely-weely bullshit.

don't get me wrong, there's still room for poignancy in games. but shit, man... does every indie game have to be about social injustices or how everyone's persecuting you? Shit.

My name is Amon 26, and I am a unskilled pretentious indie game developer tired of unskilled pretentious indie game developers.
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>>255935528
It means "independently published", you mongoloid.
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>>255931606
>CryEngine3
>implying anyone is going to bother making a game on that undocumented, unsupported piece of shit
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>>255935705
Nice, look at my art game.

Though could be more pixely.
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>>255935723
blowing the fuck out of weebs is like saying you take a shit every day. it's not hard to do.
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>>255935749
The people who use "hipster" that way are retards who would not be able to properly define the word they use. Are you saying that you're on the same level as them?
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I'm terrible
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>>255935705
indeed it is anon
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>>255935956
Is this a game??
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>>255936056
No.
NO
You posted it. You had to fucking post it.
Fuck Proteus in every single one of its figurative orifices. What an enormous pile of shit.
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>>255936056
That game looks cool, personaly im waiting for this indie game.
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>>255936220
>Taskbar visible
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>>255933713
Yes
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>>255935956
What am I looking at here?
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Indies are probably the best in terms of actual inovation and variety. Published games tend to be dogshit wankfests with high production quality.

Thank god indies exist, or we'd still be in the same dull shit state we had few years ago.
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>>255936992
>Indies are probably the best in terms of actual inovation and variety.
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>>255936056
Anon please. Don't be retarded. Anyone can show you dozens of normal indie games for each artsy game you try to use as an example.
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>>255937209
But he's right.
The big names are all about doing what they know works which, while not an inherently bad thing, isn't the best for innovation.
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>>255937467
Tell me 5 indie games that revolutionized a genre then
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>>255937467
No need to answer a post that doesnt contain a counter argument, anon. He's just seeking attention.
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>>255937209
They are. There is almost no innovation in other games. Most original or niche games I played recently were indies,while other developers will make normal fighting games RPGs, shooters or platformers. Indie games like dustforce, antichamber, dwarf fortress, nimbus, gods will be watching, papers please, don't starve, risk of rain, monaco, gunpoint, audiosurf, transistor, space chem, nightsky, etc. offer something different
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>Cherry-picking: the thread
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>>255931374
2011
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>>255937610
Minecraft invented a genre.
Roguelikes are dominated by indies.
Divinity OS for CRPGs.
Arma for military sims.
Shovel Knight for platformers

stay mad
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>>255937610
>>255938527
Binding of Isaac started the roguelite craze.
Cave Story pretty much reignited indies entirely.
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>>255937610
Doom, Scorched Earth. Revolutionizing a genre is something that happens when a game is released. I'm sure Gone Homo will prove to be more influential than most AAA games, even if it's a negative influence.
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>>255937610
Now name 5 AAA titles that have revolutionized a genre in the last 5 years. Should be easy to do, one year per genre.

I'll wait.
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>>255933518
Crypt of the NecroDancer
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>>255938527
>Minecraft invented a genre.
What's that genre? Survival sandbox?
>Divinity OS for CRPGs.
When you've made 10+ games, you kinda start losing the word indie to you. And they also have 40 people working there.
>Shovel Knight for platformers
They just made a mega man game. What's so new about it? They literally just cherrypicked elements from old NES games (Megaman, Zelda2, Duck tales).
>Arma for military sims.
They aren't really indie, but I'll let it slide.
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>>255939324
Is that any good? The concept made me laugh.
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>>255939378
Seems like your definition of indie is a little warped.
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>>255939378
A game being indie has nothing to do with either the budget or the ammount of people working on it.
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>>255939378
>When you've made 10+ games, you kinda start losing the word indie to you
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>>255939517
So you can call everything that isn't published by EA, Ubi or any other company, indie?
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>>255939416
Well, first off realize the final zone isn't finished yet, but otherwise it is pretty good.
What makes it is keeping up the beat while trying to analyze situations and work around certain enemy types
Music is pretty god tier though
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>>255939378
>When you've made 10+ games, you kinda start losing the word indie to you. And they also have 40 people working there.
Holy shit, this faggot can't be serious. No one on /v/ is seriously THIS stupid, right?
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>>255939669
Anything independently funded and published.
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>>255939669
What part of "independently published" do you not understand?
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>>255939669
It means selfpublishished.

Bohemia funds its own game development.
So does DivOS.
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>>255939762
So a game is either AAA or indie. Well with that perspective, yes, they are more innovative than AAA.
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Exactly at the moment when indiefags discovered you can be lazy when you say that it's retro.
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>>255939692
Cool, going to have to check it out once it'll be finished.
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>>255939669
Witcher 3 is an indie game, mindlown?
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>>255939870
It's not a perspective, it's in the definition, faggot.
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>>255940091
CD projekt has a bunch of private investors, it's not independently funded.
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>>255940104
So super mario is an indie game?
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>>255940410
Holy fuck, you moron, Nintendo has thousands of investors, no. This isn't hard to understand.
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>>255933518
>Nuclear Throne
My fucking African American.
Melting a best
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Are Scamstarter games still "indie"? Because they allow the highest bidders to dictate some of their elements.
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>>255940697
Put they self publish, don't they?
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>>255941224
Only one part of the equation, dumbass.
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>>255941224
They have to make something that will sell well (i.e. little to no innovation) or investors pull out. Indies aren't limited by this.
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>>255936803
Negative exponents for specular power + generating non-uniform normals
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A couple required reads to understand the "indie" scene:
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/the_myth_of_independence/
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/on_indies_and_dependies/
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>>255941736
If only technical terms made games good.
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>>255942004
>Upset that he can't label his things as 'edgy' because every indie developer and his mom already does.
Stopped reading there.
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>>255942004
>banner of a laptop keyboard
>baw muh egdee
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>>255942004
>>August 2, 2011

I'm sure three year old articles are still relevant. This is what AAA fags actually believe.
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>>255941736
GLSL is fun isn't it?
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>>255942004
This article is pretty retarded.

>hurrdurr Spelunky isn't indie because it used GameMaker and that was made by a professional studio
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>>255942004
>independent means absolute independence
No one is even fucking arguing this outside of a few braindead morons. This is a masturbatory blog post.
We use the word 'indie' because it's convenient to describe independently funded and published games, not because we're pretentious assholes.
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>>255942105
Not really technical; just shitty and basic lighting methods.
It runs like garbage and multithreading broke broke everything

>>255942772
Yep.
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>>255942004
You will lap up any retarded shit as long as it validates your stance, won't you?
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>>255931518
>>255931374
>riot simulator
>can only ralley for SJW bullshit

Wow, it's like they want to claim the concept of just civil unrest for their political movement alone.
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>>255935951

>the english language is completely static and unchanging
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>>255932597
>Spanish
>not Peruvian
you are wrong, Anon.
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>>255933027
>Ikaruga
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>>255943146
>it's ok for a word to change definitions twice within a short amount of time
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>>255943135
i just want there to be a mode where you play as the riot police and beat the fuck out of hippies
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>>255931374
when indiefags felt they needed crowd funding to make their low effort games.

indie games made from devotion to an interesting idea are usually passable, ones made for profit typically aren't.
it's like the local guy who opens a sandwich shop because he's knows how to make good sandwiches vs the guy who fucking stinks at making a sandwich opens a shop just because people in the neighborhood are saying "boy, i'd really like a sandwich."

The reason for making the games are different now, and the do suffer because of it. To say otherwise is just denial.
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>>255943135
Wait, you don't get to play as the riot police? Fucking lame.
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>>255943146
I never said that. I'd definitely accept a solid new definition of "hipster" if there was one that people agreed on. You can just fucking say that indie means artsy just because a bunch of people on the internet use it that way, though.
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>>255943135
At least you can also play as the police force, right? Or does the rioters cause change to something else if you're not controlling them?
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>>255943146
>words mean what I want them to mean
fixed that for you
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>>255931374

When the ratio of good to bad indy games got as bad as mainstream games.
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>>255943376
>>255943448
>>255943464

I want a mode where I can choose what to fight for.
Like slaughtering gays.

If it doesn't let you make a true moral choice, what makes it different from good old propaganda and indoctrination?
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>>255943638
It has always been that way. Why do your parents let you browse 4chan?
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>>255931374

Noticed there are only white people there.

Fucking racist, I'm gonna so boycott this until they add PoC.
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>>255931374
When no talent hipsters thought they were artists (hence the piel shit) and cant keep their political views out of anyhting.
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>>255931608
But... but... Crypt of the Necrodancer.
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>>255933518

Gunman Clive, can't wait for Gunman Clive 2
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>>255943824
I'm also sure there are no trans people in the crowd. AND THERE ARE NO FAT PEOPLE IN THE CROWD EITHER.
These devs are some serious bigots I tell ya.
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>>255931374
>indie=shit
so, that means mainstream big-companies like EA, Activision, and Blizzard make quality games right?
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>>255933952
what's wrong with Unreal?
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>>255943376
There is, if only you cared about watching the trailer. You can be rioter or cops.
Looks shitty anyways, like there are only 3 options: Charge, hold and something else.
Also I want some hardcore miner rioters, not a bunch of kiddos playing to be badasses to impress punky bitches but cry when the cops get nasty.
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>>255933027
Since when is Ikaruga indie?
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>>255943135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHi-29TovHo
jesus i thought you were kidding but they're waving rainbow flags around and everything.
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>>255933027
Hotline Miami
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>>255944149

...but you can play as the riot police according to this trailer
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>>255933518
LA-Mulana
fucking chamber of birth
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>>255931374

Look all those kickstarter games (Crypt of the necrodancer, FTL, Shovel knight, Papers Please, The way, Terraria, etc). "Pixel", "retro", "Amstrad or NES style", its always the same shit.

I wish the indie scene revitalized the PS2/Gamecube time with Cryengine instead of just making pixel graphics all the time.
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>>255944117
When it was developed and published by the same company.
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>>255944149
See
>>255932597
>>255933938
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>>255933518
>Trying to get par time
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>>255943996
>if you're not conservative, you're a crazy liberal
>if you don't support indie, that means you support AAA shills

Holy shit, is this how americans see the world? Everything black and white.
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When they realized that the standard for gameplay and story in vidya was so low that those who failed in the other more established mediums fled over here to be big fish in a tiny pond.
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>>255931374
Minecraft
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>>255934037
I am on the room with the platforms after getting past all the rabbits.
I dont think I can go on. Not right now, just too frustrating.
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>>255944637
Pretty much.
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>>255944480
>Teens react
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>>255931606
>make a 3d game
>no one cares about it, because its not pixel art
Being an indie dev who actually wants to do bigger and better things is suffering
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>>255944756
Do you know that you can walljump on a single wall by double tapping the directional button while walljumping? Finding that out made the game much less frustrating for me, as did using the sword. Also you haven't seen true frustration yet.
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>>255938527
>>Divinity OS for CRPGs.
>Arma for military sims.
>Shovel Knight for platformers
I like them. But none are revoloutionary.
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>>255944637
yeah, it's how we're raised. it makes it incredibly difficult to have a discussion about anything remotely political as well, since people always think it's a personal attack.
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>>255944480
Papers Please isn't Kickstarter, Amstrad/NES style, or the same shit at all.
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>>255944637
You can thank the two party system for that. It creates an us vs them mentality so the unenlightened masses can throw shit at each other while the ones who really have power get things done.
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>>255931857
>MNC
:_;
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>The game includes four main campaigns set in:

Italy, during the NoTAV movement.
Greece, during the Battle of Keratea.
Spain, during the Indignados movement.
Egypt, during the Tahrir revolution.

>no brazilian riots campaign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAP1DQkZRyk
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>>255945083
Yes.
Yes for sword too.

I just dont want to go through the rabbits, then the spikes with no save. Then back over the spikes again, then probably back through the rabbits.
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>>255939064
one hour later and still no answer

AAA FAGS BTFO
AA FAGS BTFO
A FAGS BTFO
FAGS BTFO
AGS BTFO
GS BTFO
S BTFO
BTFO
TFO
FO
O
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>>255933518
dis shit too good
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>>255945735
Which rabbits are you talking about? I thought it was the body builder ones but I don't remember any spikes there.
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>>255931374
Electronic super joy was worse.
>*pope fart*
>Lets hav you fight the poe with rainbow rockets, look how subtle we are
I uninstalled then. Not even Christian, I just hate it when people mix political/religious views with media. Feels more like propaganda.
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So how about that Proxy Blade, lads?

Also I'm curious, are there any indie 3rd person shooters?

that are good?
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I for one am looking forward to riot

>gif related

some of you faggots get butthurt over a screenshot of a rainbow flag really?
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/v/ : trolls trolling trolls.

It's awful, but I don't know why, I keep coming, just to watch, as if it was a slow-mo explosion.
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>>255946073
nice .gif faggot
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>>255945857
Bodybuilder ones.
Past them there is a room you can find. It has you jumping from a bunch of platforms with spikes below...

I am going to need to go there and take a screenshot arent I. Fuck.
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>>255946021
Cloudbuilt. It's not really a shooter, the focus is more on platforming and going fast, but it's good fun. Too bad it ran like shit on my PC so I couldn't finish it.
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>>255946098
>2014
>troll
Epic
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>>255945998
In other words, you didn't play it because you got offended. Yup, that's tumblr as fuck.
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Gee, this thread sure taught me a lot about how all indie games are retro styled shit that don't try anything new or original. Just look at all these tryhard pieces of shit:
>Papers, Please
>Bastion
>Guacamelee
>The Swapper
>Orcs Must Die
>Spelunky
>Recettear
>Octodad
>Aquaria
>Noitu Love
>Dustforce
>Sanctum
>Binding of Isaac
>Zeno Clash
All these shitty retro style art games, and I don't even need to leave Steam.
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>>255946221

Well since you asked
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>>255946571
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>>255946571
>>255946689
>2014
>gif
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>>255946793
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>>255946393
>How dare you not play propaganda. All games should shove a message down your throat, rather than just be fun.

Fuck you too then.
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>>255946249
I think I know which room you're talking about, but doesn't it have a save in the middle?
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>>255946073
no one wants to play a game where you play as SJW faggots that are ruining gaming with their must have 100% of the characters gay inorder to be happy
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>>255946470
For every good indie game, there are 15 shovelware
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Minecraft and Greenlight.

The indie zone went to shit when every half-ass incompetent "developer" saw Notch and figured out he can make lots of dosh by making a shit game that's not even playable. All he has to do is put it up on greenlight and label every flaw as "art". Keep it "minimalist" and pixelart to avoid putting in any effort. Shut down every criticism with either "it's only early access!" or the eternal "what did you expect for 5$?" card.
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>>255946901
Yeah, I just checked.
I still cant do it though, and after I die it's the rabbits again.
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>>255933518
Risk of Rain.

Pretty good game so far, seems to get easier the longer you play it though.
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>>255946939

Yeah look at all the SJW in here
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>>255946947
Isn't that the same for every medium?
>For every good action film, there are 15 Transformers sequels
>For every good rap album, there are 15 ICP albums
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>>255946947
Yes, and? Are you obligated to play that shovelware?
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>>255944637
>indie=shit
>AAA games=shit

so games=shit?
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>>255947154
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>>255947154
that is a shitty walk cycle.
people pay for this crap?
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>>255947198
You are starting to get the idea.
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>>255947051
I don't know why you find it so difficult, just freeze time and doubletap jump across the platforms.
>1 bunny doll
You better pull your shit together when it comes to finding secrets m8.
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>>255933027
Dustforce, fucking thing is better than Sanic
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La Mulana
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>>255947303
>>255947154
You do know what the game is going to be about?
I bet half the missions will take place in Russia/Middle East and will involve LGBT right somehow. Most of the rest will be feminist rallies or someshit like that.
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>>255947154
>making riot police look like evil bad guys
>not SJW scum
pick one
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>>255946301
Already played cloudbuilt to death and got all endings. Anything else?
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They really missed an opportunity by not calling it R.I.O.T.; React, Intervene, Overpower, Terminate
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>>255946947
Shovelware is when it's shoveled into packages on better games hence the word shoveled since they usually come in a bunch.
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>>255946470

There is no reason to be upset. For every 20 shitty indie games there's one good gem which wouldn't have existed were it not for kickstarter/greenlight/whatever.

There is no downside, just ignore the shitty games you don't like.
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>>255947478
You can play from the cops perspective.

Get ready to stomp some ass, /pol/ style.
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>>255947478

Unless they change it, this should be it
The game includes four main campaigns set in:

Italy, during the NoTAV movement.
Greece, during the Battle of Keratea.
Spain, during the Indignados movement.
Egypt, during the Tahrir revolution.
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>>255947486

Have you ever seen riot police before?
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>>255947898
>No battle of Seattle
>No London/Paris riots
>No LA riots

disappoint
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>>255932942
first, it isn't about sjw pandering...
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>>255945056
It's the other way around, actually
every faggot is doing a pixelart game
making a 3D game would make it diferent by now standards, sadly
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>>255933518
Guacamelee
pretty easy, but fun, I'm trying to win gold medals in El Infierno now
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>>255947164
Yeah, that's the point. Play the good shit, laugh at the ICP albums and Pacific Rims in a way that betrays a certain affinity for the material.
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>>255947898
>no nigouts for the zimmerman trial
dropped
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>>255933027
Space engineers is good too. As far as space Sims go, it's the best on the market, and if the updates continue like they have been, then the game will be way better than that one you have to pay 50 thousand dollars to play
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>>255947931
All I see is a squad of disciplined men with jobs trying to teach bestial rioters some sense of respect.

But no, I suppose having a job counts as a privilege and therefore it's for evil white cis men only.
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This goddamn game. I can spend hours building some complicated assembly lines, and then could spend equal amount of time just staring at it and watching it work.
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>>255944480

>PS2/Gamecube time with Cryengine

Nigga, you don't know what you're talking about. CryEngine sucks for AAA, let alone for indies.
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>>255948215
You mean chimpout
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>>255947854
i see nothing on that, and i doubt they would include that because this is art: the game.

and as most artists are ultra liberal pussies
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I FUCKING HATE PIXEL ART
this is not the 80's anymore, people
and if you still want to make a pixelart game, you should try something like MetalSlug you unartistic cunts
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>>255948135

>Bunch of riots and a few sscreenshots have people with multi coloured flags
>Ability to control riot police to smash protestors

Are you kidding? People are complaining about the ability to beat the shit out of hippies?

People bitching for the sake of it

It could very well turn shit but this looks like my kinda game
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>>255947486
Evil guys are modelled after riot police.
They do have to look menacing.
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>>255945656

Which means these are not gay pride flags. As usual, /v/ overreacts based on a single image.
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>>255948086
>fire distorts the screen
Interesting, never seen that before in a pixel art game like this.
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>>255948335
that's what it was, it was on the tip of my tongue but i couldn't remember
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>>255948243
This. They've been pumping out content like mad.
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>>255948386
It said right in the trailer, across the damn window COOHSE YOUR PERSPECTIVE, then a rioter GUI in red and a cop GUI in blue.
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>>255948086
>>255948215

We could always mod it
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>>255931606
Because Pixelart is easier than 3d models?
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>>255931374
When Indie became a genre and not just a game made from an independent company.
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>>255948594
Fuck yeah, one of the few "early access" models that works
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>>255948252

You won't be singing the same tune when they take away guns and impose free speech zones.

Ah yes.... too late for that
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>>255932942
>Dogs!
Ghosts...
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>>255948510
no no, i like that concept. that could be a really good game. no sarcasm, i'm just a bit drunk currently
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>>255948715
>Ghosts
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>>255948638
Wow really? I had no idea good games actually took work.
Can't wait to see more pixel art
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>>255948261
You'll enjoy SpaceChem
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>>255948698
>tfw not Clapistani
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>>255938527
>Minecraft invented a genre.

[citation fucking needed]
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>>255931374
Oh fuck from the thumbnail I thought this really was a picture of a rally. Let me guess, the developers are faggots?
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>making a game about riots
>basing it on real events

WAY TO SHOEHORN YOUR SHIT INTO POLITICAL COMMENTARY ANUS, YOU SLAP JAW FUCK DANCER.

NEEDS MORE STRANGEREAL.

NEEDS THE 1926 VETERANS RIOTS WHERE WW1 VETERANS MARCHED ON THE WHITEHOUSE TO EVICT PRESIDENT ROBERT M. LA FOLLETTE SR. AND PUT AN END TO HIS TYRANNY.
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>>255933518
.flow
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>Game tries to look "retro" and 8-bit
>Either it's too detailed to even be considered 8-bit or there's actually little effort put into the sprites so that you're just playing as a stick figure or something
People who make "retro" games are fucking cancer, why do you faggots buy into that shit?
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Braid.
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>>255948386

Its right in the game info

You can control riot police

But I think it fair to assume you simply cant club and mace every single person without some consequence
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>>255942837
haha holy shit I made a gamemaker game with a friend for fun once, and we sold it ourselves.

Guess we aren't indie! I'll call him and say we are middleware.
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>>255931374
>When did indie become synonyms with shit?

when "indie music" became a genre
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Best indie game ive played - Skullhammer, be sure to check it out.
Got some skeleton tits and smashing zombie niggers with hammers.
[spoilers]Im totally not marketer[/spoilers]
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>>255931374
since forever
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Wow. Once again "retro" is an excuse for ugly graphics.
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/agdg/ guy here making meme-knockoff-games. you guys are funny. you don't even buy games unless they are multiplayer and ban you from their servers and you think you have any right to complain. And you don't even know 10% of the indie releases out there; only the shit that gets hyped on social media.
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>>255933061
>If you can read this you're about to get your head kicked in
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>>255949286
It never was and still isn't a genre.
>>
A lot of people are talking shit about pixel art, but the fact is, when it's done well, it's fantastic. The skinny leg shit that came from Sword and Sworcery gets used way too much, I admit, but that's largely because it looked so fresh when S+S did it. And they did it well. Guys like Konjak and Vlambeer, they know how to make good fucking pixels.
>>255948476
Check out Konjak, you. Noitu Love: Devolution, and that new game he's working on The Iconoclasts.
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>>255949385
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>255949385
Great for you.

Would you care to give some examples?
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>>255949495
Iconoclasts is never coming out, isn't it?
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>>255931684

Wow, that actually looks really fun.
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>>255931374
Too much emphasis on presentation. Sure sign that an indie game will be an abysmal disappointment.
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>>255949492

ok faggot, any type of music genre that is prefaced with 'indie' which includes but is not limited to indie rock, indie pop, indie hip hop and any others, is total and complete shit

is that worded good enough for you?
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>>255948882
I have, sure as sure.

The final level of the original campaign was outrageous. All the later levels required pretty much an evening to complete, but I feel the last one was still a noticeable step above them. I knew that if I didn't complete it at that one sitting, I couldn't possibly understand my control logic the next day.

I was sweating like a gimp in a sauna when I finally beat the last level.
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>>255944149
So you can play as the riot police?
So OP is the equivalent of soccer moms complaining about satanic imagery in Doom when the whole point of the game was to take out the badguys who made that imagery to begin with?
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>>255949371

Speak for yourself. I like this look.
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>>255931684
>play video
>8bit music starts
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>>255948476

mandatory blazblue gif

Good spritework looks better than anything 3D
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>>255949764
Blonde Redhead are pretty great. Opinion discarded.
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>>255931684
>for android
Now I'm getting it. BTW, anyone know of any other gems for android I've missed? All I have is the CoC mobile app, and I can't really play that in public effectivly
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>>255949934
And thanks to idiots like you they get more and more lazy everyday.
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>>255950019

King of Dragon Pass
Elder Signs
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>>255950019
>being this much of a google shill
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>>255943376
You can play as either the cops or the rioters
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>>255950000
>good
I don't think you know what indie means anon......
also nice quads
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>>255950175
I just want good games for my phone. If I had an iPhone, I'd ask for games for that
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Look at this high quality retro animation, this game is going to be amazing
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>>255950000
>Good spritework looks better than anything 3D
Then you should probably post something that isn't jerky ass blazblue animation
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>>255946951
I "think" your "post" is "not retarded" and "not a bunch of unrelated things with no examples"
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>>255931684
>Not for PC
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>>255950396
>high quality retro animation
Devs pls go
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>>255948476

Making 3D games is very often not viable small studios.Pixel art, when done right has the benefit of being very cost effective. And it's not like they are being greedy cunts either. More often than not it's the case of making something simple, or not making anything at all.
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>>255950396

If its on a phone, no one is going to notice

Thats actually the greatest indicator that it will suck, being made for phone. Not whether there are colorful fag flags.

All those major anti capitalist riots have some asshat holding a few flags. Its pretty realistic to include them. You cant call it immersion breaking if thats what a real riot will have. A general lock of protestors and some really loud minority/niche ones
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>>255933787
this queer is upset.
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>>255950175
This guy fucking scared the living shit out of them when I was a kid
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>>255950629
I think he was being sarcastic.
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>>255946793
Gifs are far superior for pixel art you fucking mongoloid.
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>>255950467
>>
Holy shit /v/ you're at eachother's throats. Take it easy.
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>>255950064

>lazy

Like you would be capable of producing even the simplest kind of pixel art, let alone creating a complete game. You greatly underestimate the amount of work involved in making the simplest kind of game and actually shipping it as a finished product.
>>
Is battle for wesnoth indie?
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>>255950945
If they're under 256 colors, yes.
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>>255950635
Exactly this.

The only thing that pisses me off is when they say it's a "love letter" to the NES era when really they just don't have enough money.
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>>255931684
Can I make my officers yell "STOP RESISTING!" as they mace and baton these dirty protesting fucks?
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>>255951360

Yeah Im cool with that.

You dont have the resources, licenses, money or are just too damn lazy. Any number of those reasons I'll let fly and take the game for what it is.

But dont fucking call it a throwback to nostalgia
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>>255931684
>>
In the last few years most of the games I've played have been from independent or small time dev's. Part of the reasoning is that with AAA, I'm simply not in anyone's target audience anymore. It does suck that you have to wade through shit to find a good game, but on the other hand, there are more games within my niche interests now then there ever were before. I mean for shits sake, games like the TLoU, GTAV, DOTA are the games of this generation. That stuff isn't enjoyable, I can just watch it on a youtube Let's Play and get relatively the same experience. That sucks man.
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>>255951012
This game made by 2 guys. It doesn't contain shitty pixel art.
>>
>creating an indie game
>want to have an artstyle that isn't pixel, especially that it won't fit this shit
>no graphics
Maybe I'll go for "it looks so bad that it's artistic and thought-provoking", see how that goes.
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>>255951857
All I see is they ripped off the artstyle from Yoshi's Island.
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>>255951360
>>255951501

Gotta agree. But I don't really see people riding on the nostalgia train so much anymore. Most of the time, the type of pixel art that is used in these games wouldn't be really possible on these old platforms anyway.

Shovel Knight is the only recent game that actually looks like it could be running on an NES.
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>>255951816
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>>255951736
Fedora game of the year
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>>255951857
I see you're strawman and attack your argument sir, do you understand the effort it takes to make this artwork by having made any attempts yourself?

Bringing up other people and saying "look they did it" shows poor understanding.
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>>255951909
find the right people to work with. They're out there. Plenty of people to collaborate with, you don't actually have to produce shit if you put in the energy and time. That's not a good legacy to leave behind.
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>>255931374
>When did indie become synonyms with shit?
Indie has always been shit, except for the 1% of games which were actually good. The difference is that now, indie games are a lot more visible and so people are seeing more than just that 1% which becomes noteworthy.
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>>255952160
You said it's hard for indies and their only way out is making pixel art. And I showed you other indies could do it.
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>>255932942
>>255933061
>Rockstar would try to turn it into some satirical piece with superficial jokes and fail to deliver on any online promises
>EA/ would weave in some bullshit "muh identity" storyline
>Activision would hawk it off to Infinity Ward/Treyarch and turn it to Call of Duty: Permanent Riot Shield QTE Follow Quest
>WB would turn it into first person batman with no gadgets
>Deep Silver would release an awesome trailer then a mediocre game 3 years after
>CDPR wouldn't have it released till 2026
>Platinum would turn it into some cuhrazy 3rd person brawler
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>>255952160
>"They worked long and hard and made a good looking game"
>"YOU DONT UNDERSTAND !!!"
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>>255951857

Bitch please. Braid cost much more than your run of the mill indie game. Blow pumped roughly 200 000$ of his own money into that project and prior to that worked for many years in the game dev industry as a high paid programmer. Only a small fraction of indie devs could do that.

Lastly, the game was not made by two people. http://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/braid/credits

While many of them were not part of the "core" team you can't just ignore their involvement when it suits your argument.
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>>255952259
>Indie has always been shit, except for the 1% of games which were actually good.
So basically they're like every genre and budget category of games.
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>>255934954
you forgot bastion
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>>255950000
Dont get me wrong, I love the character designs and the art style. You know, visuals in general.

But animation is lacking. Still good, but just to please the elitists.
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>>255952328

You are replying to a different anon and no, no one ever said that. What was actually said is that you underestimate the process of game development.
Making the art like in Braid would take so much time that a vast majority of indies would simply run out of money before finishing the game. Good art makes your game stand out. There's plenty of indies who are able to produce high quality art and could benefit from chosing a higher fidelity art-style. However, they are often not able to do so not because they are trying to jew you out, but because this shit takes more time than they can spend on a single game.

You don't become a game developer, even an indie one, by being a lazy fuck.
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>>255934954
You forgot bastion.
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>>255953576

Animation could be more fluid but you get my point.
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>>255952340
I wouldn't mind if Platinum made a Riot game....
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>When did indie become synonyms with shit?
When the term became a new genre used to market games made small teams without a budget. Compounded when people realized there was money to be made everyone who could follow a Unity tutorial started flooding every outlet possible terrible cash grabs. Reminds me of the Atari crash. Best devs are freeware devs and there are just as many as there used to be since the commercial indie boom. They just get drowned out by all the noise.
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>>255934954
Long Live the Queen isn't good, though. It's closer to a VN than a game, but it's not even a good VN.
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>>255950952
I'm going to sneak into your house at night and wrap barbed wire around my cock and fuck your dog up the ass with it until the wire shreds both his ass and my cock and we both bleed to death with the mangled remains of his anus and my penis tangled together in a disgusting clusterfuck of ruined flesh, blood, semen, and fur.

Fuck you.
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>>255954181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6oTINdWYIg
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>>255954181
What? This just looks like it was shrunk and then expanded in MS Paint.
Is this supposed to be art?
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>>255933027
Natural Selection
Kentucky Route Zero
Super Hexagon
Rogue Legacy
Terraria
Don't Starve
Incredipede
Binding of Isaac
Hotline Miami
Broforce
Frozen Synapse
Spelunky
Risk of Rain
Legend of Grimrock
Stealth Bastard
Capsized
The Room
Bit Trip Runner
Kerbal Space Program
Nitronic Rush
Outer Wilds

>mfw /v/ says all indie games are shit
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>>255954558
>Is this supposed to be art?
No, sorry.
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>>255936164
What's wrong with Proteus? It's supposed to be audio-based.
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>>255954565
>no volgarr the viking
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>>255954784
I'm only listing the ones that haven't been covered in the other lists.
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>>255954383
>>255954181
Professional pixelart, DO NOT STEAL
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What's a good game in which I can curb stomp degenerates?
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>>255955145
Wolfenstein
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>>255955256
I want to be the nazi, not kill the nazis.
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>>255955145
Gears of War, since everyone online is a degenerate.
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>>255955323
You want to be the degenerates? Should have said so sooner.
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>>255955395
I'll bet you think the holocaust happened too.
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>>255955145
I wonder if there is a mod to let me crucify people.
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>>255955532
>"M-muh white pride!"
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>>255955790
Truly the savior of the white race.
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>>255955790
yes, good goyim
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>>255955790
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>>255954686
Only one season even sounds good though.
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>>255956269
Fuck off Nazi slime.
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>>255956269
Daily reminder that "good goyim" is the "tips fedora" of the /pol/acks.
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>>255933518
I'm finishing Guacamelee.
Pros:
- Quite fun
- Ok music (at least coherent with the universe)

Cons:
- The humor is horrible.
- Memes.
- Too many things coming from other games, lack of imagination.
- Short (4h max., count some more if you want to collect everything)
- Some jumps are awful if you use a keyboard, because you have to press shitload of buttons in a small amount of time.
- Story is shit (but I expected this).
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>>255956460
Your point being?
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>>255956687
They're all aight.
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>>255956869
I almost forgot, in the cons:
- Too easy.
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>>255956916
Shut up old man
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>>255956869
>- Memes.
Is this now a standard for games?
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>>255956780
>facebook filename
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>>255931374
Do you have any real criticism or is this just a knee-jerk reaction to pixelart?
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>>255957296
It's indie and it's probably propaganda.
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>>255957296
Do you even have to ask?
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>>255956916
Oh look, a jew who stole the work of others.
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>>255957089
>enemy website meme
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>>255957443
>enemy meme
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>>255948290
>CryEngine sucks for AAA
http://www.rt-immersive.com/

sure, say that to one of the people that make contract with the US army in term of virtual training tools
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>>255957384
You niggers keep saying that but you always dissapear when we ask for proofs/documents/videos
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When people forgot how to actually do basic research before purchasing things.
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>>255957519
Wasn't there a shitty attempt at something like this made in the 80's? Can't recall the name right now.
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Since /pol/ is there I'd just like to say that I fucking love shitposting on their board, people always take you seriously no matter how much you repeat yourself it's crazy.
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>>255932597
Peruvian/Incan indigenous flag. I have no idea how the LGBTBBQ took it over. Hypocritical with all their talk about cultural appropriation bullshit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiphala
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>>255957801
nah, full spectrum warrior was one the first "knowed" game that was used by the army released for civilian, the first one was in the '90s and it's basically "dwarf fortress : back that t80 back up edition", then came VBS1 with BIS ( OFP : cold war crysis ) and then VBS2, who become THE virtual tools to get for your army, and now the US begin to use this one for some stuff

here's the link for the full hardocre simulator
http://www.battlefront.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=114&Itemid=163
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>>255951736
>Rioting helps guys! Seriously!
>Meanwhile arab spring has singlehandedly ruined the middle east which was already shitty to begin with
>if you look at history you won't even find half a dozen of violent uprisings that lead to a better state

Sure... bring on the revolution.

I just wish people would stop flinging this hippie shit.
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>>255931684
Looks like fun.
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>>255957519
That's not AAA. In fact, it has nothing to do with games.

Also, Crytek tried and failed to properly get into the simulation market. Their engine sells like shit both in the game dev and simulation scenes. That's the reason why they are trying to get into Free To Play now. They've been losing money for years and their sim business is not helping them.

I worked for Crytek before this whole shit with the paychecks went down. The company sucked, the managment sucked, the tech sucked. The only good thing about CryEngine are it's rendering capabilities. Apart from that it's way behind other, more modern engines. Half the shit that's in there hasn't changed since Far Cry
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>>255958015
But that's not even close to looking like those flags
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>>255958863
https://www.google.com/search?q=incan+flag&client=firefox-a&hs=J2N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=sCLcU6WuIIuyyAScpYGoBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=740
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>>255959104
>Rainbow flag
>diagonal rainbow = straight rainbow
>implying the Incans are relevant at all after Pizarro
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>>255959298
Better than a bunch of annoying SJW gays.
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The LGBT flag is ableist
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>>255942236
>>255942469
>>255942686
>>255942837
>>255942912
>>255943119
Butthurt "indie" scammers.
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>>255931374
>someone is making a game I don't like
>better shit post about it on 4chan
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>>255931976
Name 10 good indie games made at any point in human history
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>>255963961
Cave Story
Terraria
Hotline Miami
FTL
Kerbal Space Program
Dustforce
The Swapper
Super Meat Boy
Spelunky
Audiosurf
Dust
Papers, Please
Electronic Super Joy
Mark of the Ninja
VVVVVV
Antichamber
Trine
Ultratron
Sanctum
Runner 2
Guacamelee
Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams
Rocketbirds

Should I go on?
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I just want more indie games like Freedom Planet that are basically games that I used to love playing that are never made anymore
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>>255965965
inb4 "it's shit"
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>>255965965
>Guacamelee
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>>255931374
After Cave Story came out every fag and his uncle wanted in on the new fad.
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>>255965965
that whole list is shit
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>>255963961
Speed of Light
Conquistadors
Antichamber
Space Engineers
Spelunky
Alien Swarm
Binding of Isaac
SpaceChem
Legend of Grimrock
Hotline Miami
Gunpoint
E.Y.E.
Cave Story
Braid

>lol, those don't count because I dont like them
>lol, those don't count because I dont consider them Indie enough
>lol, those don't count because reasons.
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>>255931684
>http://riotsimulator.org/
>for iOS and Android

lol dropped. Also the shitty 8bit retro crap is for autists
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>>255950019
SpaceTeam is fun, if you have friends.
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>>255965965
Literally everything on that list is shit
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>>255966673
>hurr durr epic memes

>>255966796
Please explain in detail why.
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>>255931374
>trying to emulate "retro" look
>games that are actually retro look 1000 times better than indie crap
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>>255966796
Good job, you completely debunked his whole argument. There is a parade waiting for you outside, and Obama is going to give you the keys to the White House.
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>>255966827
>here is a subjective list
>I disallow subjective counter arguments
Go fuck yourself
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>>255967180
>I ask you for a subjective list
>but I wont tell you my personal preferences or catalog of criteria
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>>255966796
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>>255967328
Not OR, mate.
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>>255966796
Then go back to your Watch_TheNexGen_Dogs and eat shit.
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>>255966827
>strawman
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>>255965965
Antichamber is pretty cool but it's marketed pretty exclusively to CoDshits who have never played a puzzle game before.
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>>255967128
While many games claim they are pixelated to emulate indie games, it's actually that handling a small amount of pixels is generally easier than a large amount. Many Indie games look like retro games because most indie games also have small budgets / number of developers, just like early games. If they claim "retro graphics", it's generally a side-effect of the process.
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>>255967086
HOLY SHIT TOP POST!

JUST BOUGHT PS4!!!!
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>>255967632
>logical fallacy fallacy
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>>255931374
When the game industry became the haven for art school graduates, women's studies majors, and failed screenwriters.
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>>255932248
>>255932456

>Gone Home

Jesus christ, couldn't you have at least found a shitty indie game that hasn't been beaten to death? There are so many other ones to choose from.

The sad thing is you actually think you're being witty by making such a fucking uninspired post.

The fact that you didn't even watch the initial video to see what you were linking speaks volumes.
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>>255967992
Who are you quoting? I need to say post invalidated for that to be true.
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>>255931374
Indie devs are doing it good, they are giving what the audience wants,

if PC audience wants more gay pixelated games, let's given more gay pixelated games.

if Xbox audience wants more FPS, lets given more FPS.

if PS audience wants more movies, lets given more movies.

if Nintendo audience wants more rehashes, lets given more rehashes.

i don't see anything wrong.
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People fall to troll threads really easily these days.
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>>255954565

To be fair some of those are questionable, but there are some undeniable gems as well.
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>>255968648
ah, whooops.

Just noticed people actually bothered to talk about some indie games they DO like ITT.

You guys are cool in my book.
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>>255968648
>2014
>troll
You forgot your frownie face
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>>255948823
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>>255931374
It's not.

It's just synonymous with "No resources, no budget and only two-to-three guys with minimal experience working on it."
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This is my favorite indie game
When are those updaets coming though?
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Roguelikes are still safe. Well, non-roguelite roguelikes.
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>>255943861
hue. no.
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>>255969635
indies are still safe too, there are lots of cool games. I love indies when they're good
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>>255968135
>spouts strawman
>doesn't know of the fallacy fallacy

If you knew what the fallacy fallacy was you wouldn't be asking.
Confirmed for retard, probably not even knowing what a strawman really is.
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>>255969875
>spouts fallacy fallacy
>nowhere did the post say anything about it being invalidated
Stop
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>>255968942

>the word troll is too mainstream now, we've since moved onto the more underground term which is bait
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>>255969958
>fallacy fallacy states that a fallacy being used does not automatically mean that an argument is invalid or wrong

This actually invalidates your posts.
Wow, looks like you're retarded
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I thought that fallacy meme died a month ago
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>>255970183
>does not automatically mean that an argument is invalid or wrong
Can you read
I never said the post is invalid or wrong
Quit spewing garbage
Your argument now is wrong
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>>255970338
>I never said the post is invalid or wrong
You posted "strawman", nothing else.
So by your logic, all you did was state the obvious, without any implications, additional information or messages
Your statement apparently (acording to the post I am replying to with this one) served no implicit purpose rather than inform people of something that had no consequence.
You posted the equivalent of "there is air here, that is why we can breathe"
go waste someone eles time.
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>>255970938
>all those implications
Stop wasting your time fag
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>8bit graphics
>8bit music
When this shit will end?
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>>255971091
When indie devs get money
And it's called Chiptune music
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