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Who was your guys' favorite NPC in the Souls games? Be it from DeS/DaS/2? Mine is pic related, I haven't played Demon's since I don't have a PS3, but out of Dark Souls games this is my bro right here ;_;7
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>>255869004
I've only just started Dark Souls last months so I'm still learning the characters. Artorias seems like a badass though. But Seigmeyer and Solaire's optimism are both greatly appreciated.
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>>255869004

Aye, shimae
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>>255869841
I like Ciaran's armor as well. Really I like all 4 of Gwyn's knights to be honest.
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>>255870106

she must be so hot
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>>255870253
Only Artorias will ever know for sure
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>>255869004
> thought he was just sleeping by the gate and didn't exhaust his dialogue
> tfw it was over before it started
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>you turn the NPCs hollow by helping them throughout their stories
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silly question
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"Good, good. What is bravery, without a dash of recklessness!"
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>>255870865
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>>255870723
That's something I'm not really used to yet. It seems like it's impossible to get a happy end for most characters. My first run though I didn't use a guide and so Solaire went nuts and I had to kill him. It's only later that I found out it was possible to save him but his story has the happiest end in that he doesn't die or go hollow. Everyone else either dies or goes hollow. Is it better for Rhea to get assassinated by her own friends than it is to let her go Hollow in Seath's dungeon? What about Seigmeyer? Either I let him die in a hole or let him go hollow and let his own daughter kill him. How the fuck do you win?
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>>255869004
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>played 3 different builds in a pirated copy of dark souls
>finally afford to buy PC version
>mfw jolly co-operation
Although I feel bad for blasting the gargoyle's ass with great heavy dongus soul arrow,the look on their face when I two shots a boss they were struggling is great.
I hope PVP is just as good,i'm gonna try to stay SL22 to invade people at sen's fortress
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Probably that priest guy in DaS1 who absolves your sins and lets you leave convenants without making them hostile, but only because of that weird creepy laugh he has.

>"It is only human to commit a sin, HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHE!"

Come to think of it, why are most of the NPCs in Dark Souls so creepy?
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>>255871262
You don't win. That's basically the theme of this game; fires and stuff going out and whole world is like "shit is fucked nothing is going to stop it".
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>>255871486
Because the amount of people who have accepted that the world is fucked and it's pointless to try vastly outnumbers the amount of people who don't
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>>255871480
If you want to cool places to invade bellow SL30 sen's fortress and that section before the gapping dragon are fun as fuck.Don't do fight clubs and shit,that's for faggots
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>>255871486

they all are kinda crazy.

That's why they are so memorable.

>"Heh heh. Thank you. That was a fine trade. I have this funny feeling we'll meet again soon. And we'll make another fine trade, of course!"
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>>255869004
Siegmeyer's daughter was really cute, i just want to cuddle her and tell her that her father is in a better place.
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>>255871480
I've only just now started getting into pvp. Not really good at it. I don't think I completely thought my "build" through. I started using divine weapons, learned that Faith makes them more powerful so I dumped a lot of points into Faith and Endurance. But I take a lot of damage per hit so now I'm dumping points into Resistance while trying to upgrade my armor. In addition to finding a set that will protect me without me needing Havel's Ring to wear it.
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>>255871664
So hopelessness results in people feeling the need to laugh creepily out of turn for no real reason?
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>>255871486
every one of them has a laugh
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>>255871857

>you'll never go on an adventure with her

kill me
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>>255871857
I feel that way except about Anastacia. Wanted to give her a hug and encourage her to speak more often
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>>255871917
I find this great,when only the bad guys laugh at the end is just too chessy to be funny,but in dark souls,everyone does that,so you never know which is the actual fag that is going to betray you.
Just imagine
>bearer of the curse,seek souls,before this land swallows you whole
>MUAHAHAHAHHA
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>>255871889
More teetering on the fringes of insanity and hopelessness causes you to laugh creepily. Besides for guys like Seigmeyer who are obviously forcing out laughs to convince themselves they're feeling better than they really are.
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>>255871496
a lot of people didn't like the ending of ds2, mainly because there was only one. but i thought it was clever in a way to only have one and not show what happens as a result, because you should know by now after ds1 that it does not matter at all whether or not you light the flame as it has the same results every time.
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Why is the guy who sits around the bonfire for the first half of the game in DaS1 such a prick?
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I always wanted to know more about that creepy armor merchant.

Aye swimae
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>>255871921
>>255871968
End me now, brothers

it would never work in the dark souls world because i'd just keep coming back for more suffering
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>>255872091

>bea
>see
>les
>ha

THIS FUCKING BITCH
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>>255871867
which covenant are you on?dickwraith?Cause you better do entire new build for PVP.
The more points you dump in SL the more limited gets your pool of players until the point that you only find meta build fags at that bridge from the DLC.
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>>255872104
I guess I never thought about it like that.
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>>255872091
I don't think it'd be like a MUAHAHAHA but more like "h-hahaha..." but no DS2 is a power fantasy starring YOU the BEARER of the CURSE.
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>>255872175
Because he's crazy. He was in love with that goddess of his or something.

Here's the real question.

Do you think gwyndolin ever fucked that bonfire keeper woman?
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>>255872175

he gave up, just awaiting hollowingdeath.

Remembers me of my grandfather.

sad.
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>>255872091
>The sun is a marvelous body,if only i could be so grossly incandencent
>hehe...HEHEHEHEHE
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>>255872302
>power fantasy
>game about how futile both life and death is
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>>255872263
That's one of those things I didn't really know. So I guess now that I've finally beaten the game for the first time I have to start over. Also I'm a sword of the Darkmoon. Thanks for telling me though. I'm really starting to dig Artorias's sword so I guess I'll put in just enough points to equip it and go no further.
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>>255870991
>mfw I was there for that pic
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>>255872263
Darkwraith is a bitch to get into, especially if you're trying to twink. I guess it's good that it's like that though.
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>>255872091
>everyone does that,so you never know which is the actual fag that is going to betray you.
You seriously think Lautrec's obviously evil laugh is indistinguishable from Solaire's cheery and friendly one?
If anything the laughs are an easy way to get the player aware of their personalities, I doubt anybody would let Lautrec out of prison if he did his KEHKEHKEH before you open the door.
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>>255872302
Like maybe a girly evil chuckle.

As if she wants you to suspect she's evil, but then she tells you she was just fuckin with you.
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>>255872175
bitch nigger's to afraid to step outside of the bonfire and go hollow
plot twist:he goes hollow over seeing you do all the cool things while he talk shit about you
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>>255872321
I don't think Gwyndolin has a sex drive. If he does then it'd probably be weird since he was raised as a girl.
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This stayed on topic.

Anyway, VENGARL.

Also rping as him is borderline OP.
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>>255872431
>Darkmoon

Sucks to be you. The only people who get targeted by darkmoons are pvp mongers baiting people into fighting them.
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>>255872558
NG+ Darkmoon have the benefit of murdering those people that killed every NPC before next palythrough.
AND ITS SO GOOD
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>>255870364

For sure.

Also, Onionbro was best bro in Dark Souls.

So far in DaS2 it's gotta be Vengearl. And Ditzy Fire Lady
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>>255872558
Actually most targets I get, assuming I get any at all, are low level guys. It's only been a few times I invaded and walked face first into 3 dudes ready to gangrape me.
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>>255872503
Didn't he go to New Londo for something else?

Also, I find it kekworthy how if you show the pyromancer that one spell you get after fighting Quelaag, he goes off and gets himself killed.
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>>255872525
so what's his deal?
was he an early version of the undead curse?
a Dullahan?
why couldn't i take his head with me, he was one of the best npcs in dark souls 2
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>>255872451
>Lautrec shows you that the life of the undead is not about whores anymore and free you form the firekeeper so you can get gud
true bro
>Solaire cake walks you through the game spamming OP miracles at bosses in a selfish quest for a fucking headgear that makes he go hollow
0/10 wouldn't summon
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>>255872175

Man he's got nothing on the Crestfallen Warrior from Demons Souls. Guy was so depressed, then just gives the fuck up and next time you talk to him he's a consumable soul on the ground. Hit me hard.
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What does estus taste like?
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>>255872747
Well yeah after ringing the bells of awakening and waking up Fraampt he'll complain about the smell before saying something to the effect of "it's time I did something about it." And then he runs off to New Londo trying to be a hero only to come back a Hollow.
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>>255870874
>use ring that silences your movement
>he can no longer find you when you fight

Deepest lore.

>>255870723
Man, I felt like a mamoth dick helping Laurentius.

Also that part were DSP dies to him is poetic justice.
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>>255872525
Is he the guy from DaS2 that stands next to one of the primal bonfires after you already killed the boss?

Because if it is, I'm still wearing his armor.
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>>255872874
the descirption say it's made out of bonfire's flame,so i would say something like hot chocolate
inb4 sunny d
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>>255871857
Sieglinde is a lunatic.

Unlike Kirk.
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>>255872891
Why are all the NPCs so shit at fighting? You'd think at least one of them would be competent enough to not get themselves killed by attempting even the most simple task.
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>>255872951

he's the headless guy in the fog forrest he sells you stuff and gives you his helmet
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>>255873098
I probably forgot to bring some Transient Curses or something
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Laurentius is maximum bro tier. He's the only one I never let go hollow.

>>255871867
>dumping points into resistance
Uh oh.
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>>255873098
They probably tried a bunch of times, then gave up and got turned hollow.
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>>255872951
Yeah his armor is pretty good stat's wise,i wish it wasn't so blood wet through it would look styling clean.
>tfw you liked the game's flagship armor but it turned out shit
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>>255872814
go away Lautrec
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>>255873135
In DaS2? I never saw him. I rushed right through that area.
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>>255872869
I'm kind of back and forth on whether I want to move ahead to DaS2 now that I've beaten DaS1 or if I want to go back to DeS.

>>255873151
I'm going to guess that was a mistake. I haven't dumped a lot though I know I've dumped over 10. Most of it has gone to Faith, Endurance, and Strength with some into Vitality.
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>>255872994
>the descirption say it's made out of bonfire's flame,so i would say something like hot chocolate
I don't think you ever tried fire.
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>Farewell, human.
>Lead thy life as thou seest fit.

Those words. Plus he's the only giant I ever encountered that wields a bow, in anything: books, movies, games etc. Fucking glorious.
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>>255873151
>He's the only one I never let go hollow.
He doesn't need to go hollow. He's already insane and kills firekeepers.
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>>255873270

when you first enter the fog forrest, just keep hugging the left wall and follow it youll see a wide path that goes up and his head is laying with a pile of rocks, exhaust his dialogue. Also behind him is an item to upgrade your pyromancy flame
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>>255873270
you missed out, he's really interesting and kind despite being a berserking warrior with ptsd.
he also sells good gear like the claymore and greatsword.
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>>255873332
>implying a fire made out of undead bones don't taste good
why do you think they stand around it so much?
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>>255873370
>Laurentius kills fire keepers

Are sure you're not talking about Lautrec?
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>>255873414
>claymore
>greatsword

I used both of those weapons and dropped them as soon as I found gear that wasn't shit.

Zweihander master race.
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>>255870010
Fun fact. Aye Siwmae is an informal Welsh greeting. They basically say "It is good!" or "I'm good!"
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>>255873151
y-you can do that?
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>>255870253
She's Bald, still hot though.
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>>255873370
Lautrec is the dick killing firekeepers, Laurentius is the pyromancy guy.

and he's a top tier bro
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>>255873360
Giants are always huge bros when they aren't mindless animal things.
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>>255873534
>claymore and greatsword
>shit
fuck y-
>zweihander
you're alright
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>>255872367
Imagine this with the Priest's laugh.
I laughed hard.
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>>255871262
>What about Seigmeyer? Either I let him die in a hole or let him go hollow and let his own daughter kill him.
What are you talking about? If you beat up the Chaos eaters and talk to him, he doesn't die or go hollow. He just thanks you and you never see him again. His daughter's already killed him once.
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>>255873534
I dropped my Zweihander for the Bandit axe and the heavy twinblade

Zweihander seems so bleh in Das2. Maybe I should make it electric or something.
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>>255872773
presumably something to do how he sells a single life ring, he was probably wearing it at the time of his decapitation
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>>255873593
>show Laurentius your cool new pyromancies to be nice
>"brb gonna go hollow hope you didnt need any more pyromancies for the rest of your playthrough lol"

Some bro.
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what's a good weapon for a sorcerer's build?I'm using that ghost dagger but I don't want to pick twinkly titenites on upgrade that shit
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>>255873534
I used my divine Zweihander to get through the game. I became absurdly powerful with it or at least in comparison to where I was. I only switched to Artorias's Greatsword just because I liked the character but I still keep my Zweihander in my back pocket.
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>>255872891
Where is it ever suggested Crestfallen went to New Londo? I just thought "it's time I did something about it" meant he was going to attack Frampt, and either got his ass smacked down so hard he was finally pushed past the point of no return or just hollowed before he got the chance.
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>>255873751
>making your Zweihander anything other than electric

Anything else would be heresy.

And yeah, it's not as good as it was in DaS1, but it's still my weapon of choice. It's a lot better for pvp than the greatsword too, with the wide horizontal swing. Better crowd control too.
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>>255873835
The fact that right after he said "I'm gonna do something about it" you find him in New Londo as a hollow?
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>>255873439
>>255873332
>>255872994
>>255872874
BEHOLD
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Lautrec and Kirk because they're waifufags like me.
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>>255873835
He shows up by the vase with the two transient curses after he says he's going to do something about it. I always assumed he somehow knew about Kaathe and wanted to get him to tell Frampt to fuck off or something. Or he wanted to get the Lord Souls so Frampt would hugger off having his mission fulfilled.
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>>255873779
>leading your bro to a dangerous place with the promises of new pyromancies

Truly you are a monster.
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>>255873552
If you refuse to tell him where you got that particular pyromancy from, he gives you the benefit of the doubt and assumes you're not telling him for a good reason.
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>>255873798
In DaS1 or 2? Because if you're talking about DaS1, the Zweihander made the game exponentially easier for me too once I got it.
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>>255873962
Man I'm trying this out when I can.
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>>255873908
>>255873976

Shit, nevermind. I had my head up my ass. I read that as "Anor Londo." Yeah, I remember that much.
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>>255874027
You can only divine in Dark Souls 1 so...
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>>255874027
DaS1. I haven't tried DaS2 yet. I'm making a second run through NG+ now. Will probably make one new character before I finally move on to DaS2. Or go back to DeS.
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>>255874004
whooooa

shit, I'll protect him next playthrough
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>>255873674
Fuckin' oath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1cn-DaMxVA
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>>255873835
Until this thread, I didn't even consider the possibility that he was talking about Frampt when he was complaining about a smell. I assumed it had something to do with the giants in Sen's Fortress burning shit or something.

It makes more sense that he was referring to Frampt, but why would he go down to New Londo?
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Mmmm... Hmmmm...

I felt really bad when I couldn't save Siegmeyer in Lost Izalith. Hit me like a dick-ass thief's dagger in the gut.
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Dark Souls II bastard sword is maximum based.
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>>255874209
maybe because it was the closest place to him and he didn't really know about the spooky ghosts, considering that new londo would be the best place for someone like him
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>>255874209
Probably to attempt to do what you do all the time and get the Lord Soul from the Four Kings. I doubt it was to talk to Kaath since that implies he knows where Kaath is and that also implies he has a method of dealing with the abyss. Well I suppose if he wanted to fight the Four Kings he'd still need a means of dealing with the Abyss. He was fucked no matter what. Gravelord Nito would've been an easier target.
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>>255874261
It swings slower, does less damage, and reaches as far as my Homologous Mace.
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>>255874261
I'm on my first playthrough ever of a Souls game with DaS 2, and I've fallen in fucking love with the Bastard Sword. To be a maximum scrub, I'm in Explorer's armor with Falconer Leggings (started as a Knight).
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>>255874261
>not heide knight's sword master race
best reward for killing a optional mob.That shit can carry you through the game
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>>255874228
But you can. Just kill the chaos eaters and then talk to him. He won't die.
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>>255874418
>Kaathe

I didn't think of that either. That makes more sense than anything.

Why wouldn't he know where Kaathe was though?
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>>255869004
Who doesn't love anastacia
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>>255874575
Lautrec
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>>255869004
>favorite NPC
>no one mentions Biorr
>helps you in a tough boss
>holds off a dragon for you ALONE
Biorr best bro
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>That clicking whenever Frampt speaks

It's so weird
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>>255874418
>Gravelord Nito would've been an easier target.
He would've gotten rekt so fucking hard
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>>255874228
It hurts, but now that I think about it the alternative end might be worse.
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>>255874614
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>>255874640
he clicks even if he doesn't speak
it's his teeth moving together
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kil cr8 or p8
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>>255874684
I thought he was happily reunited with his daughter?

The worst part is that we killed the Chaos Eaters, but he still killed himself later.
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>>255874572
Because neither serpent has been seen for ages. Not only that but if he knows where Kaathe is then he also knows no one can even get to him without the abyss killing him first. And I'm not sure if he was buddy buddy with Artorias so he would've had no way to navigate it.
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>civil dark souls thread
late night /v/ is a bizarre place
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>>255874228

>i let him fight off the rest of the chaos eaters
>I-I guess I'll just sleep here now Undeadbro, it's been a pleasure fighting against you

God damn it ;_;
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>>255874684
>>255874772
There are three alternatives.
He dies there. He dies in Ash Lake, or he thanks you and doesn't die.

Please stop ignoring me. >>255874559
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>>Both, one's a murderer and the other is a thief.
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>>255874727
Both.

>>255874656
If he brought a divine weapon it'd be fine. Neato without his skellies is even easier than Pinwheel.
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>>255874575

>Lautrec sits in his spot
>whoa what a qt
>h-hey girl wanna hang out sometime?
>...
>hey? Girl?
>...
>I see... too good for a shiny ass armor faggot arent ya?
>...
>OH COME THE FUCK ON
>...


>bonfire is absent, cannot light bonfire
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>>255874614
>Lautrec killed an NPC just to wait around in Anor Londo with two phantoms ready just so you would invade him

Lautrec confirmed for typical pvp griefer.
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>>255874727
both
seriously,you can't really make the call.It's one's word against the other.Just kill both and get their armor.
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>>255874727

I kill pate everytime, nigger is always playing his dirty tricks.
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>>255874727
err, whoops.
>>255874849
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>mfw I never knew about Seigmeyer on my playthroughs
>mfw when I tried it, I couldn't even find him so fuck that
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>>255874624

who?
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>>255874826
Hahaha, sorry. I just wanted him to meet his daughter.

So does she kill him? That's fucked up.

>>255874882
Those skeletons fucked me over some good three-four times until I said fuck it, warped out and crafted a divine Claymore.

Then it was easy as fuck.
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>>255874985
You didn't play Demon's Souls
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>>255874905
But how did he manage to kill Biggie and Smalls after you wrecked him?
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>>255874965
nigger he is literally in front of a main's game path
it's better this way,you can't save him
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>>255875026

nope

looking forward to it though
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>>255873962
Don't do this, this melts glass. I'm sick of dangerous pranks like these
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>>255875015
>So does she kill him? That's fucked up.
She has killed him once before if you talk to her.

>>255875094
How wrong do you have to be? I don't get it? Did no-one else actually kill everything and then find Seigmeyer there?
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>>255875015
>>255874882
>Felt really good about beating Nito on my first attempt
>Turns out I only did so well because of my weapon
>Good feeling now soured a bit

I went Divine since it was the first upgrade I had besides Raw and now I kind of made this image of myself as a holy warrior fighting in the name of God.
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>>255875039
They all wore gold. My headcanon says they were his homies.

Ornstein and Smough should have been Ornstein and Smough and Lautrec
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What's all those orange texts floating in the air and with strange messages like:"let there be light"?
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>>255875094
I saw him twice, in front of Sen's Fortress, and inside on the edge of the cliff. Never saw him after that.
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You have a heart of gold.

Don't let them take it from you.
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>>255875187
Man, to be honest I didn't even bother using anything else other than +15. Then I crafted a Chaos Claymore for NG+ and got rekt out of my 10 humanities by the Parish Black Knight.
Oh well.

>>255875173
>She has killed him once before if you talk to her.
Wh-what? I never knew this. What does she say?
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>>255875161
How does that melt glass?
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>have 165 hours in DaS, eight characters total
>always did zones in a weird order so I never met Seigmeyer's daughter or saw Laurentius go hollow or help rhea and get wotg, etc.

My favourite will always be the Crestfallen Warrior, though. I felt a friendship with him more than anyone I've met in the last few years.
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I really liked Titchy Gren
That nigga creepy as fuck manlet with Nahr Alma as his waifu and strange ass fetish
I guess he reminded me of 4chan
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>>255874727
Obviously both
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>>255875264
Hacked messages
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>Laurentius never tell him where i got the pyromancy
>restore anastasia
>kill petrus
>>go back down and talk to ingward
>dont buy all the miracles/sorceries/pyromanices of anyone
>save brolaire
Feels good making sure everyone stays alive.

I also have a major hardon for virtually every female npc's lines, shit they got some good accents and delivery

>i am dusk of oolacile
>you..is that not..the soul of the man who fell on this spot
>Do not crack and go hollow
>vereor nox
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>>255875204
>Ornstein + Smough + Lautrec + Spartan Spear Tank + Magic Spammer
O-Oh my.
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>>255875413
I didn't like that retard.
>you wanna be covered in blood, right?
>then fight in my PvP arenas where you're phantoms and don't have blood or flesh at all
>BLOOD
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I've never cried so hard during a video game. When he started limping and even fell over while trying to swing the sword I just droppped the controller and shed manly tears and fired the last arrow into that amazing beast.
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>>255875413
I liked him too. He kind of reminds me of Al Pacino.
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>>255875501
I just want to fight all 4 knights of Gwyn at once
Fuck that would be intense as shit
Or just Super Sayan mode O&S at the same time
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>>255875501
you're forgetting someone
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>>255875447
Rhea I felt was kind of phoning it in. Anastacia I just wanted to give a really long hug to though. Quelana and Quelaan I mostly felt pity for.
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>>255875501
Perfect for DaS3!

Oldest Dragonslayer + Old Executioner + Old Backstabber + Old Pikeman + Old Annoying Fuckface
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>>255875545
He didn't mean literally. He meant "blood" as a metaphor for the butthurt of the scrubs you invade and grief.
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>>255875561
>summoning sif in manus fight
>have to kill him later to advance the story
>go online and realize queelag has awesome voice acting and would have been the covenant leader, letting you see her sick sister and heal her.

What is it with Japs and wanting to feel like shit? sometimes it pisses me off.
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>>255874727
p8 because creighton has a really cool design.
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>>255875561
Sif is one that I kind of just cut down at first but then I found out his backstory and felt like the biggest jackass ever. At the least he kind of lives on through my sword
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>>255875561
>tfw he was just protecting his master's grave from the asshole trying to rob it for a piece of jewelry
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>>255872451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRyGGB1k5Ds
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>>255873360
>has been living blind even though he just has a fucked up helm
feels bad man
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Just started playing DS. Laurentius seems like the best guy. My friend let it drop that he'd go hollow if I let him seek out the source of the pyromancies I've gained, so fuck that. It hurts turning him down though. Why can't I just teach him like he taught me?;_;
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>>255875343
>Wh-what? I never knew this. What does she say?
If he goes Hollow, I'll just have to kill him again.
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>>255875746
but p8 has a really cool voice
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>save artorias
>go back to anor londo
>gwyn's alive
>meet the 4 knights
>they congratulate you, and want a honorable duel
>you beat them, they kneel
>you go on to meet Gwyn, with the real gwynevere and maybe his lost son with him

This is the good ending.
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>>255873674
>HUGE bros
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>>255875695
No. He meant being covered in blood. Like he is, and like the wall behind him is.
Don't stretch this.
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>>255874684
>>255874772
Saw a video about him that was pretty interesting. Obviously it's the loss of hope that makes a person go hollow faster- which would explain why the Chosen Undead doesn't visibly hollow any further after leaving the asylum, having been given a new mission- but it seems having their hopes broken or dreams crushed is what finally does in all the NPC's.

Seigmeyer has his pride stripped from him. Every time you "save" him, you're actually pushing him closer to the edge and he is visibly more deserpate each time you meet.

Solaire fails in his quest to find his own personal sun, and is left feeling lost and meaningless.

Big Hat Logan seeks knowledge more than anything, and is driven insane by the unpleasant realities he finds in the Duke's Archives.

Griggs wants to keep up with his teacher, Logan, but is eternally in his shadow. He tries to pursue Logan, but cannot overcome Sen's Fortress as you and Logan have.

The Crestfallen watches as his entire philosophy is proven wrong. The Chosen Undead achieves everything he's failed to summon the passion to do, and so he sinks down into the dark where he also hollows.
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>>255875561
Man fuck him. I just wanted the goddamn ring. He have barked and woofed or some shit. Fucker tried to gank me without much warning. Ungrateful asshole. I even put his master's soul to rest and saved his ass. Fuck tha dog, man.
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>>255875951
Just because he's covered in blood doesn't mean that he isn't only referring to blood in the literal sense.
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>>255875795
>1:03
From all the people you would expect that would turn on your back and this fag doesn't even go hollow so you can stab him over jewing you
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>>255873749

>you never see him again

He shows up at the bottom of that big tree, where the Eternal Dragon is.

His daughter kills him because he goes hollow
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>>255874727

On my first playthrough I thought Pate was an enemy just chilling so I started whacking him and he started talking so I finished him before he could fight back.

>Friend wants help in Lost Bastille
>"Why the fuck do you only have a small soapstone?"

I was such a fucking noob then.
>>
The merchant at the beignning of Dark Souls.

His katana is olev
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>>255875863
Oh, Jesus.
Maybe it WAS indeed better to have him kill himself.
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>>255875952
>The Crestfallen watches as his entire philosophy is proven wrong
I always thought he was just being a little bitch about the smell.
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>>255875721
>go online and realize queelag has awesome voice acting
Not really. She sounded like a fucking granny. Completely unsuited for her character.
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>>255876006
I thought Sif stops you because he's trying to keep you away from the abyss so he won't let you take the ring?
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>>255875863
I never got that, why would she say it like that?
Was that her mother's last words ? Kill your father you whore ?
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>>255875746
Fucking shame about the cape, Cr8ons armor is probably the most balling in the whole game but the fucking cape ruins the silhouette like nobody's business.
The worst part is the concept art implies they were considering capeless version.
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>>255875780

>tfw he recognizes you and is killing you so you don't turn out like Artorias
>He tries to save you the only way he can

;_;7
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>>255876126
>tries to kill you so you can't kill yourself
No dog tell me what to do, I'm a big boy, I can take care of myself.
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>>255875889
>save artorias
>he beats the abyss
>the game never happen

?
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>>255876241
>>255876126
About that Ring... Can't you get it in the fight and just warp away/die and never kill Sif?
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>>255875952
>Obviously it's the loss of hope that makes a person go hollow faster- which would explain why the Chosen Undead doesn't visibly hollow any further after leaving the asylum, having been given a new mission
The only way you can go hollow is by actually losing hope in your quest and stopping playing.
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>>255876118
>Jesus Christ Frampt's breath smells fucking horrible
>I can't take this shit anymore. I'm moving to New Londo. Because even with the murder fueled ghosts there I won't have to deal with the smell anymore
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>>255874727
>mfw I made a Pate account just so I can trick people into kill NPCs
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>>255876158

Man, I never noticed until now that Cr8's gear without the cape is fucking baller.

>We will never have Capeless Cr8on set
>We will never have a perfect Baller Swag Set with the full stuff underneath and the Cape

;_;
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>>255876283
Don't forget that the end goal of your quest is either to literally light the world on fire or take over as a dark lord and further plummet it into hell.
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>>255873360
His voice makes my dick rock hard.
Also I really liked Lucatiel, it made me sad that her story doesn't really have an ending. The theme forgetting and being forgotten by everyone hit me hard.
I killed her after she told me to remember her name. Seemed easier that way.
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>>255876304

no, the ring is a drop
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>>255876312

The only way to prevent hollowing is to gitgud
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>>255875351
Mixing salt with Whiskey will create a perpetual cycle of heat, since the salt will continuously try to evaporate the whiskey.
Introducing Sunny D will cause subatomic binding of those ingredients into a plasma type matter, and the heating will multiply. The acidity found in lemon salt will make this concoction incredibly acidic, and chili powder is the dynamite trigger which will cause combustion. Garlic will smell like shit and kill you if you are a vampire, but the rum is alright. Coarse salt will be the shrapnel. It's pretty hard to spot this as a dangerous drink but the "All in equal parts" should have tipped you off, as paprika cannot presently exist in quantitative values. I own a flask in real life
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>>255876297
Well the world would still be fucked. It's just that rather than Oolocile falling and the Four Kings having the Abyss to hide in, you just have a flooded city to get rid of the Darkwraiths and the demons in Izalith
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>>255875952
This actually makes sense. Very sad.

>>255876437
It's behind the grave, no? I'm pretty sure I picked it up mid-fight.
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>>255870865
wait, is this nigga only wearing a sheet over his shirt as far as torso protection goes?
The mail seems to only cover his limbs.
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>>255876039
Man, shut up. You're either drunk or trolling. I won't accept it that you're that stupid.
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>>255876516
That's Ciaran's Hornet Ring.
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>>255876412
I hoped so fucking much From would add the option for capeless version to those armors with capes.
But no luck
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>>255876516
No, dummy. That's a different ring. The Hornet Ring.
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>>255876573
Oh, yeah. Alright.
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>>255875161
>melts glass
>>
Maiden in Black is top tier Souls waifu.
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>>255876529

He's covered in chainmail underneath that shirt I think.

>>255876595

I was hoping we'd have an untarnished Balder set, alas we did not.
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>>255876489
Wait, are you completely serious? I wasn't aware of this when I posted the picture.
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>>255876489
I'm incredibly skeptical of this, but I'm considering trying it just to see if it actually happens.
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>>255876429
>no option to not light the fire, kill the Primordial Serpents in some Super-Hydra Bossfight and THEN light the fire and save da world
Fuckers were all assholes and they deserve to die. Plus they're creepy sounding.
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>>255869004
this nigga
cuz he funny as fugg
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>>255876732
Did you even read that shit
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>>255876723
>chainmail underneath that shirt
only if he's a fucking lunatic, you have to have something between mail and skin
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>>255876567
You're the one complaining because there's there's no actual blood when you kill phantoms in pvp. Are you sure you're not the one trolling?
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>>255876748
Why kill the serpents? Well okay there's a reason to kill Kaath but Frampt is bro as fuck.
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>>255876756
Oh man, this guy.

Tell me, /v/, do you indict like a bitch nigga?
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>>255876756

>his gesture

best thing in any game

ever
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>>255876809
Yeah, but...

I guess it's wrong due to the "sub-atomic" into Plasma, but why would you post something like that?
>>
So uh

did I do bad by freeing him?
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>>255876489
As a chemist, this physically hurt me.
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>>255876832
He could have another shirt under the chainmail
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>>255876949
He escapes anyway
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>>255876845
You're stupid.
I'm not complaining. I'm saying there's an obvious flaw with his desire and what he sets up.
Killing hosts while brotherhood of blood doesn't increase your rank either.
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>>255876756
>climb down ladder
>turn around
>FUCK

FUCKING HELL DONT DO THAT
DONT JUS LIKE APPEAR FROM NOWHERE
U DED NOW NIGGA
NIGGA U DED
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>>255876889

>game kicks me when I'm afk
>we duel
>I sip estus
>I buff weapons
>sip more estus
>get killed
>indict him

don't even care

fuck it
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>>255876489
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>>255876889
>join Forest Hunter convenant
>pvping with some scrub and completely wreck him
>he indicts me
>suddenly get kicked out of Forest Hunter covenant
>Forest Hunter NPCs are now hostile
>Alvina bitches me out and disappears
>have to pay for absolution to get her to come back and let me rejoin

Fuck that shit.
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>>255876723
>I was hoping we'd have an untarnished Balder set, alas we did not.
I saw pictures of the Sanctum Knight set and fucking loved it
Turns out it's covered in Sinh's poisonous green spunk and looks fucking terrible. Such a shame.
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>>255876889
I never indicted anybody but I had to pay souls because I hit NPCs out of nowhere quite often because my right trigger on the controller is very glitchy. I have to buy a new one.

>>255876906
I know, right? I dig his laughter. it's beyond stupid.
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>>255876951

so what the fuck is the verdict does it break glass or it just another alcoholic beverage
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>>255877068
I admit he's creepy. But his face close-up looks friendly and qt.
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>>255876732
I am complete anon, anon I own a flask
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>>255876929
Because it's humorous, autism-lad.
And you really think salt and liquor is does a highly lethal perpetual heat cycle even though every other cocktail or tequila has fucking salt in it.
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>>255877112
>I had to pay souls because I hit NPCs out of nowhere

I accidentally a whole Rhea. There were some bones right next to her, I had no idea my Zweihander would shockwave her...
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>>255877069

>game kicks me

fuck I'm dumb. I meant

>invader kicks me to aware me he invaded

forgot to mention. I backstabbed him when he used the bow gesture
>>
I have this theory about the Serpents that they are somehow "stuck" to the places you encounter them at.
Like they are stationary, they can only move up and down from those places because they are "rooted" to something.
Don't know if that would actually have any interesting implications but yeah
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>>255877060
>Killing hosts while brotherhood of blood doesn't increase your rank either.

If you were really in it for the blood, this shouldn't matter.

Maybe you belong in Way of the Blue. It's more your speed.
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>>255876906
>the gesture

PRAISE THE SIN!!!1!
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>>255877139
the enzymes in chili are activated by salt ionized ethanol and start to degrade your own proteins so otherwise mild toxins in garlic can sneak in and backstab you while your immune system is down
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>>255877206
I killed Andre the Smith on my first playthrough and had to start over.
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>>255876856
If you don't light the fire he swaps sides pretty damn quick. He was obviously trying to reverse psychologyify you.
>>
>ctrl+f
>tarkus
>0 results
guys...
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>>255877206
Nigga you dumb, it's not like there's anything ever in those and you could have just kicked them out of the way.
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>>255870723
When playing Dark Souls 2 I was beginning to get the impression that I was cockblocking Lucatiel from the lord souls and that was contributing to her going hollow.
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>>255877348

so what its like an acid then?
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>>255877386
Well Frampt is there looking for the next King and you did kind of kill Gwyn and took his soul. So that makes you the next King whether he likes it or not
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>>255877425
I just doesn't feel right to roll into them, you know? I'm not Link, I'm some huge faggot with a huge sword.

>>255877365
...How? Why?
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>>255877013
oh.

so what's-her-name next to him ends up getting shafted anyways?
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>>255877231
They're actually two ends of the same creature
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>>255877237
>If you were really in it for the blood, this shouldn't matter.
>Maybe you belong in Way of the Blue. It's more your speed.
I don't like either because they're both retarded. I do as I please, not because I'm some idiot who wants to "belong" to some shitty club.
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>>255877139
>so what the fuck is the verdict does it break glass or it just another alcoholic beverage
>The guy literally said it fucking hurt him as a chemist
>It exploded and hurt him,melting the glass

Jesus your comprehension
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>>255877112
>because I hit NPCs out of nowhere quite often

I hit the one girl who lets you level up in DaS2 in one of the parts where she appears out of nowhere near that castle area by accident. I hit her twice full on with my Zweihander before I realized who she was. Somehow I didn't set her aggro off or kill her. Felt good.
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>>255876429
I thought linking the fire just temporarily restored the Age of Fire for a few hundred more years before things go right back to being fucked and someone eventually coming to slay your animated corpse
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>>255877498
It's what we professionals call an semi-permanent base-acid subcomplex
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>>255877365
>I killed Andre
How the fuck does this happen? You can hear his hammer two floors up and you can tell he isn't hostile.
>>
>>255877348
>>255877607
Alright, you're trolling now.
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>>255877540
You clearly don't enjoy dueling or invading either. So yeah, BoB isn't for you.
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>>255877525
DEEPEST

LORE
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>>255877508
>...How? Why?

I didn't know anything about what would happen if I attack NPCs so I just tried it out. Also, I think some stupid lie message on the floor triggered me to that stupid ass action.

>tfw I almost killed that female undead merchant in the sewers as well

well, she deserved it because she was creepy and I thought that was an enemy behind the bars.

>that tantrum she throws after you smack that bitch
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>>255877564
That's because she never fights back, ever. You could keep attacking her till she has almost no health left and she still wouldn't swing on you.
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>>255877597
No, that's pretty much what the dark lord ending would have caused.

You just straight up burnt everything to a crisp in the other ending.
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>>255877742
At least you weren't that far into the game.
Meh, she's pretty useless anyhow. She's only good for Poison Arrows and I never even used those anyway.
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>>255877408
>single fucking summon for the easiest boss fight in the whole game, no dialogue, no story, fucking nothing
>xD SO EBIG TARKUS 2STRONK
Off yourself
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>>255877648
We'll see when disaharides in unstable water/sugar/ethanol mixture increase the solubility of sodium chloride thus making your body unable to properly titrate the mixture before the hydrochloric acid of your stomach supercharges the base-acid subcomplex and melts your organs
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>>255877742
>I didn't know anything about what would happen if I attack NPCs so I just tried it out.

If talks about DEmons Souls ever taught me anything, it was "don't ever ever attack an NPC for shits and giggles because there is no undo."
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>>255875413
I disliked him, he didn't look menacing enough for all that talk about getting covered in blood and the way he talked made him sound like a junkie.
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>2014
>being a cleric
>>
How was DaS related to DaS2 and what happened to the chosen Undead?
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>>255877882
yeah but her moss is important because I run out of anti-poison moss in blight town.

also, what would happen if I kill/attack Oswald the Pardoner?
>>
is bringing black firebombs as the starting gift a good idea? So you can rekt the asylum demon's shit and get his mace? is that any good? I'm too busy picking the master key for that shit

>inb4 kill it with sword hilt
niggas i dont have the patience for that
>>
>>255877930
Do you mean, 'disaccharides'?
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>>255878093
You can just trade with Snuggly for the hammer. It isn't even that good anyway, so you can forget about it.
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>>255877884
It's not so much the boss itself as it is the story behind how tarkus was supposedly the only person to make it that far, and further -- until he fell off of the rafters in the cathedral and got dragged into a corner.

As for him soloing a boss, I personally don't give a fuck about that. I just think he's an interesting NPC to have made it that much further than anyone else, excluding Solaire and the onion.
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>>255878093
You wouldn't be able to carry it properly anyways.

>>255878068
You can farm moss in Darkroot Garden.
They have pretty good drop rates.
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>>255878131
God no, no chemist worth their while would use a pleb spelling like that.
We at a higher level, appropriate latin.
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>>255878246
no shit, i'm asking if its worth having by the time you can have the stats to use it
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>>255877998
>I disliked him, he didn't look menacing enough for all that talk about getting covered in blood and the way he talked made him sound like a junkie.
I think that all just added to it, the voice acting is so fucking good too, he doesn't try to sound menacing or scary, just plain creepy and weird as fuck.
There was some clips of Titchy Gren in the beta stage and he had different voice actor who actually tried to sound scary and it just felt so off.
It's a crazy-ass midget with a blood fetish, that's how he should sound.
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>>255878068
You don't want to do that. He's the only character who can fix things if you accidently attack someone important. You also won't be able to move back and forth between convenants in one playthrough if you kill him.

Also, if something like >>255877101 happens, where it would be no fault of your own, you're completely fucked if you don't have Oswald.
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>>255877726
Dueling is full of the same shit you find in PvP because dueling, you get NOTHING that good unless it's for completion AND the matchmaking isn't made with SM, so you can be level 50 and fight a level 500 havelsmelter. I would know, I've 100%'d the game.

I don't PvP in that shit game unless it's with friends. It's just awful with the same shit everywhere. It's boring and I always win. I want competition. I don't want to win against the same shit all the time. If I did. I would join a ganksquad on the Iron keep bridge. But I don't. So I won't.
Get it? BoB ain't for me by choice. It's stupid, it's boring and it's not worthwhile and this has absolutely NOTHING to do with me not liking Tiddy Gremlin. Like all manlets, he's a cocky piece of shit.
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>>255878301
Nah, not really. You're better off using another Greathammer/Ultragreatsword.
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>>255875561
Man shut the fuck up. The entire walk up to him you see all these summon signs. "Tears ahead" shit like that.

It's just a stupid ass dog that tries to kill you.
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>>255878335
>just plain creepy and weird as fuck

He doesn't sound creepy at all. He sounds like Al Pacino. He sounds based as fuck.
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>>255878349
ok thanks, I was just curious. I also needed him because he was the only dude who sold anti curse stones.

>>255878246
>You can farm moss in Darkroot Garden.

I know. But the garden is too far away once you go to Blight Town and stuff.
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>>255878298
Saccharide comes from the Latin word sacchararum.

Do you believe in the Time Cube?
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>>255878573
>I know. But the garden is too far away once you go to Blight Town and stuff.
Fuck no, it isn't.
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>>255878435
>you can be level 50 and fight a level 500 havelsmelter

This doesn't happen. Fuck off. You would have to be unrealistically horrible at the game and lose a fuckton of souls dying for something even close to this to happen.
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>>255878478
Okay thanks, good thing i didn't waste my time trying to find out
>>255878535
I thought all the tears things were people crying about the difficulty
I cant lie, i got fucking wrekt the first couple times I tried it
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>>255878698
>This doesn't happen. Fuck off.
To you. But it happened to me, let me tell you that much. You don't lose souls for fighting in Brotherhood of Blood. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>255869004
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>>255878686
>Blighttown -> Valley of Drakes -> Darkroot Forest

Woooooow dude
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>>255878572
>He doesn't sound creepy at all
Every time he says "blood" you can hear the voice actor drooling a little
I think he's creepy as all fuck, the bit high pitched talking and the way he breathes and uses pauses is so fucking strange
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>>255878586
>he does not know what appropriate means
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>start playing ds
>having a shitton of fun
>decide to look up builds so I don't waste any levels
>some builds calling for 50 vit
I'm missing something, here. I'm SL70 and I've been cruising at 18 vitality. Is this with PvP in mind?
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>>255878686
Dude, the merchant is just closer. I don't feel like backtracking and farming moss.
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>>255878839
If that actually happened to you, then you seriously need to git gud. You would have to gather 50-100k souls at a time and then die, and then rinse and repeat dozens and dozens of times to get matched up with someone that much stronger than you.
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>>255878963
DaS or DaS2?
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>>255871889
It's a coping mechanism.

Laugh, and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone I guess.
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>>255878943
Sounds like you don't know a real goodfella when you see one.
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>>255878972
All things considered, it isn't that far. Merchant definitely wins in convenience if you've got the souls, but fuck paying 1000 souls each for that shit.
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>>255879045
Laugh, and grow fat.
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>>255871889
>>255879045
Also, isn't it in Japanese culture where laughing is a way to show one's nervousness or discomfort?
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>>255877408

Tarkus is my bro. First time I summoned him I thought it was another human and thought it weird that he didn't gesture back. After winning the fight I got summoned to help someone else and was amazed that he got summoned to. "Wow, what a coincidence!" I thought. Wasn't until later on I realized how much of an idiot I was.

That said I like alot of the npc's.
>witch beatrice, actually traveled the abyss on her own to try and kill the four kings, unsuccessfully of course
>rhea, just trying to journey with some bros(still unsure how they manged to get to tomb of the giants without killing pinwheel and getting kindling rite. THE ONLY REASON FOR HER JOURNEY)
>Logan, huge boner for knowledge with no regard for his own life
>Griggs, sells spells, chills, just trying to become like his hero
>Ingward, top tire bro, keeps the darkwraith bitches and their masters on lockdown for all eternity. "Oh, you killed em? Cool story, imma go get some sun."

Lasty
>You will never nestle in Gwynevere's giant bosom being rocked to sleep as her breathing gently moves her mammoth breasts
>You will never play with Priscilla's tail
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>>255879045
>the world's going to shit
>better practice my creepy laugh so I can alienate any chosen undead who decide to roll up to the desolate area I stand around in all day
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>>255879045
I got lost in the woods for a few hours and I laughed when I realized it was my own fucktarded self that got me lost.

I think you just laugh when something you weren't expecting to happen happens

aka actually getting let out of a cell he's been sitting in for a fuckload of years
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>>255879258
... That isn't the same for everywhere? I don't live in Japan or America.
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>>255879008
>then you seriously need to git gud
Are you that stupid?
Can't you just accept the matchmaking is fucked? Can't you comprehend that maybe, those fights ended in a tedius stalemate because they couldn't hit me and I was doing almost no damage to them?

THE
MATCHMAKING
IN
BROTHERHOOD OF BLOOD
DOES
NOT
WORK
ON
SOUL
MEMORY

Get it into your thick-ass skull, you stupid meme-spouting prick. Fuck your kind. You're just too stupid to live.
I went into the BoB at end game because I only had the interest of getting to rank1 and that was that.
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>>255879337
The game is made by Japs, ergo, they put in their own culture norms.
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>>255874209
I always thought that the smell was his own body turning hollow, rotting away
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>>255875795
>Solaire's incredibly sunny laugh
every time
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>>255872503
I still can't defeat that fucking dragon, even though i have passed the game numerous times.

What the fuck is his pattern? Sometimes he just hops away when i attack his below, sometimes he fucking scorches me to death.

even havel's shield isn't very helpful
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>>255879380
Yet nobody else seems to have experienced this 'fucked up' matchmaking of yours. That sure is something.
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>>255879272
I had something like that happen to me with DaS2

>be near the place where you fight that scorpion woman
>oh look, a red summon sign
>the name on it is "Lord Gregor"
>must be some kind of optional NPC invasion
>invite him into my world
>die because I'm cursed and hollow, with almost half of my health bar gone
>sign is back in the same place
>invite him again
>die again
>only later when I'm looking through my recently played with to message someone do I realize that "Lord Gregor" was a real person
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>>255879380
Matchmaking is still fucked because of Peer-to-Peer play, and I usually get matched up with fucking slavs and fucking gooks who go for the new meta at max SL and lag like they got parkinsons.
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>>255879380

You should probably stop playing videogames altogether
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>>255879579
Go to /dsg/ you cocksucker. Ask them about BoB and its matchmaking. It sure is something how you act based off your experience and not about a hundred thousand other people, you condescending piece of trash.
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>>255879380
Pretty much all of the people I duel through BoB are relatively at my level. You sure it isn't just you?
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>>255879716
You're adorably upset about the whole ordeal. Do you suck dick?
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>>255876489
this is 100% true my brother died trying this recipe.
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>>255879301
It's not unfeasible to think living in Lordran would stunt your capacity for empathy quite a bit.
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>>255879559
I figured out a pattern that works most of the time. Starting from the bonfire room in the Undead Burg, climb the ladder and go up the stairs to the bridge. Make a mad dash to the wall behind the stairs while the Hellkite Dragon burns away all the undead. Hang out there until he hops down. When he does you want to hug the side of his left foot (right on your side). When he jumps in the air and breaths fire the hitbox will just miss you and you can roll away from his landing and run back to his foot. If he moves from that spot just run back to the stairs until he jumps back onto the Altar of Sunlight and repeat. If you're feeling ballsy you can cut down his tail and get the Drake Sword
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>>255879681
all restrict region does is block you off from the japs, i disabled it for like 5 minutes and got nothing but japs, yet they dont lag as much as the koreans and brazilians.
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>>255879894
Yeah, I'm just joking around.
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>>255879926
>not knowing about shockwaves

Come on son
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>>255879926
I like how it's always the PC version where people bitch about the hitbox.
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>>255879559

I stood on the bottom bridge and just shot giant arrows at him till he died. Hate that motherfucker.
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>>255879926
his sword touched the shield.
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>>255880012
come on man, a shield rolling across the floor shouldn't have a shockwave
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>>255879939
I'll try that next time, I just don't see the reason for putting that fucking thing in if it only blocks off Japan.
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>>255879926
>>255880014

>People shitting up a civil discussion about dark souls

guess it's time to go play some more then
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>>255880064
You don't need additional hardware to record on PC.
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>>255880091
Nope, it definitely shouldn't.
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>>255880124
You can only talk about heroes and waifus for so long. I want to take of Ciaran's mask
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>>255879692
I should stop playing video games because some loser on the internet told me so.
No. I enjoyed Dark Souls II quite a bit. But the PvP? That shit is fucked up. There's no denying it.

>>255879836
Again with the "it doesn't happen to me" shit. I know it may be difficult to understand this concept, but it's simply wrong. Shit happens and again. I will say it:
Brotherhood of Blood arena matchmaking is not based on Soul Level or Soul Memory.

>>255879869
I'm not upset about anything. I'm trying to make a point with some argumentative little shit. I'm adding in slandering vocabulary because it might be on a level her or you may understand.
To answer your question: I do not suck dick

I can't believe this shit devolved from me saying I don't like Tichy Gren because there's an obvious and technical flaw with his dialogue and the PvP the covenant holds. If it was like Battle of Stoicism (human vs. human not phantoms) it would make more sense.

If anyone's upset about anything, it's the idiot who actually felt like arguing with me about spilled blood being figurative. What a load of nonsense
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>>255880170
Where does it show that they used additional hardware?

And that's not the 360 version. You can tell just by looking at it.
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>>255880241
Don't do it, she doesn't even have a face.
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>>255880274
Now I'm convinced that you're just shit at the game.
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>>255880274
I can't see why anyone would like Tichy Gren to begin with.
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>>255873541
Fun fact; If people couldn't work out he was welsh they don't deserve help understanding him.

>>255874684
>know about this
>take them all down to minuscule health
>jump down and forget that he isn't a white phantom
>swing for them and clip seigmeyer.

I..I did it anon, it was me ;_;
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>>255880424
Fuck off Blue Sentinel. Don't you have some scrub to save?
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>>255880278
All I'm saying is that to record footage off of the console version you need a capture device on top of your console, a PC user can just record whatever he desires if his pc can handle it.
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>>255880241
If I pull that off will you die?
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>>255880424
I wonder whos behind this post
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>>255880373
Well I'm convinced you're stupid. So I guess we're both happy with the results. Undeniably, I don't feel shit at the game and you probably don't think you're stupid.

>>255880424
Well yeah. That's my point. I don't like him and the dialogue was a reason why I don't like it. People have a habit of just saying they don't like something and don't really give a reason.
I eliminated the middleman of asking "why don't you like him?" because it's just convenient
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>>255880535
Don't get all upset because I'm spending my time shitting all over you terrible reds. Just enjoy the spanking, friend.
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>>255879932
I saw a guy use drake sword in anor londo.

It was saddening.
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>>255876312
>hollows are mindless husks
>The Player Character with no player is just that without the set behaviour
>mfw
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>takes like five implements from Penetrator for me
>save his ass from the dragon because he doesn't use a bow

Tightest bro, always have each other's back.
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>>255880649
Couldn't agree more, he's just off putting in general.
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>>255880714
Gank harder bitch nigga. I'll still drop you and your scrub every time.
>>
FEEBLE CURSED ONE
>>
So... why don't NPCs come back when you've killed them? Don't they have the darksign as well?
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>>255880950
I don't think so.
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>>255880826
90% of the time, without exaggeration, the red spirit is trying to gank the host while he's got one or more NPCs on him. I don't really consider me taking the heat off of the host to be ganking in any aspect; but you keep telling yourself it is, so you can justify the ass kicking you're continouesly receiving.
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>>255880950
They do, but in the own world.
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>>255880950
You're not accounting for alternate dimensions, time travel and nanomachines.
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>>255880950
My theory is they do, but time is distorted, right? So when they wake up again, it won't be in your world
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>>255881134
Wouldn't they be phantoms if that were the case?
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>>255881131
>Japanese game design in a nutshell
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>>255881190
you don't see every single phantom from every single world
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>>255881131
>there's a dimension where everyone lives
Take me there, anon
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>>255881190
No because phantoms are the ones which can get between the gaps of distorted time.
It's really meta when you think about it.
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>>255881190
phantoms are guests or invaders in your world.

Unless you mean the "ghost phantoms" in which case they're never shown with armour do you wouldn't be able to tell anyway.
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>>255881271
What I'm saying is, if the NPCs in your world have darksigns -- wouldn't they appear as phantoms? As in, white phantoms.
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Rosabeth is mai waifu.
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>>255881356
do you look like a phantom? no, because you're not summoned to someone's world
same applies to everyone else
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>>255881035
>implying I've ever been taken down by a BS
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>>255881362
Shame she looks shit in game
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>>255875419
>>255875264

This is a creepypasta just waiting to happen.

>BUT HE WAS IN OFFLINE MODE THE WHOLE TIME
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>>255881356
What?

Each undead is branded with the darksign which resurrects them, and every NPC is pretty much undead. Phantoms are summoned. I don't know where you're going with this.
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>>255881490
>implying I BS rather than parrying these shitlord reds.
Keep that R1 spam to a minimum next time, champ.
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>>255881575
I don't honestly either, I'm incredibly tired and confused right now. Just forget the whole thing, honestly.
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>>255881603
You aren't parrying shit. Duel me faggot.
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>>255881519
That's okay. I fell in love with her personality.
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>>255881356
No, Solaire tells you the reason you and he are in the same world even though you didn't summon each other is because your two words are momentarily in sync.
When NPCs die they fall out of sync, probably.
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>>255881696
You one of them garbage casters then? Sure thing, what's your sm?
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>>255881552
No. There's a "Let there be Light" framps face in the Undead Burg. It's there most of the time I play.

Dark Souls is so dead...
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>>255881716
Ah, yeah it's been a while since I played DS1. Thanks for the reminder.
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>>255876489
>actually doing shit you're told on 4chan
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>>255872108
The problem with DaS2's ending wasn't that, it was that nobody knows what the fuck the throne of want does.

Apparently the cut from release DLC's will shine some light on this, but it still isn't known what the fuck the thing does.
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>>255881716
>>255881681
>>255881575
>Trying to understand the handwave justification for why you can actually kill people or accomplish anything in a game where more things than not just come back to life

Midi-chlorians did it.
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>>255869004
>Dark Souls 3 will introduce a character that you are supposed to be
>he understands the curse, and knows that having a purpose will keep him 'sane' for as long as he can be
>you encounter him many times on your journey, and sometimes help him
>he never wants your help
>"I would rather fail a thousand times than see the results of my success. Please... leave me alone."
>eventually he notices that you seem to be an unstoppable force in your quest
>your quest is essentially his, something he deemed impossible, he fears you may succeed
>he targets you, he is a relentless enemy now

Maybe it's just me that really wants a rival in these games, a recurring threat that you sympathize with. Alternatively, it could fucking suck and my proposal for it is probably an example of that.
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>>255875795
whats the name of that guy with the mask and tophat?
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>>255881990
Well granted there might not be a thought out reason as to why these things happen, but it's still fun to speculate.
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>>255882064
marvellous copyright infringement
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>>255882064
Marvelous Chester. He's found in the DLC area before the Artorias fog gate.
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Anybody find it strange that the only area with an asian influence was Lost Izalith? Which seemed to represent a Buddhist hell. The rest was fairly European in terms of architecture, demons, and armor.
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>>255881996
Isn't this roughly what Oscar was supposed to be doing in DS1? Before his content was cut, that is.
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>>255881996
Do you have some kind of a fetish when you post this over and over only to hear people tell you that's what Oscar was meant to be?
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>>255881990
God forbid some people actually like using their imagination.
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>tfw you have to kill Ciaran to get her armor
God fucking dammit Miyazaki stop it
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>>255877068
KEHEHEHEHEHEHE
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>>255877068
>>255882542
what can you do if you aggro the guy who sells you the one thing that un-aggros npcs?
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>>255877520
unless you kill him first
but she comes back, and you get his loot later anyway so you might as well let it happen.
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>>255882194
I haven't looked in to Oscar's cut content much at all, but if that was what he was planned for, it's annoying that they didn't include it. I figured he was pitched as a guardian-like character.
>>255882195
I've never posted that before. In fact, I've avoided Dark Souls threads since before the release of 2, and barely visited them after the PC release of the first.
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>>255882773
If /v/ archive wasn't down I could easily search your identical posts
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>>255882773
You should definitely look into Oscar's content. It was more or less what you described, as he understood just what was happening and that he needed a purpose.

If I remember it correctly, he was hoping he might be the chosen undead -- but he keeps getting beat to the punchline by you (the player) all the time. So eventually at the kiln, he turns on you.

That's roughly what I remember, it's been a while since I read up on that though. But if you want something interesting to look into, you should have a look at that.
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>>255875670
>old annoying fuckface
My fucking sides, gone
>>
Not really my FAVORITE, but something about King Vendrick's chamber is so fucking eerie and unsettling and perfect and I love it.
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>>255882693
replay the whole game, make a new save file, EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!
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>>255883034
I'd be pretty impressed if you could find something I've never done before. Take it as a coincidence if you want.
>>255883194
That's pretty interesting. Did they ever say why it was cut?
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>>255883503
>not praising the sin
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>>255883650
>Did they ever say why it was cut?
Not that I know of, but I never really looked into that bit.

If you haven't already, I'd recommend looking at Vaatividya's video on Oscar. He summarizes it pretty well, and also has Oscar's cut sound files in the video itself.
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>>255883665
MY BODY IS READY...AND MY SINS TOO!
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>>255883391
You spend the whole game hearing about this guy, expecting a big boss fight like Gwyn, and then you get to him and he's just a withered husk aimlessly walking in a circle. It was kind of sad.
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>>255877101
>You can be kicked out of forest hunters for being indicted.

Wait, what? That's retarded. How does it have any members if anyone you invade can just get you booted from the covenant?
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>>255883831

>tfw I killed him

...fuck
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>>255869004
I liked the one who laughed after he spoke.
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>>255887365
Hoh heh heh heeh...
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>>255883391
The music really did it for me. Hands down it was the best part of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnoZG6iCbjU

also watch this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSdqDW3Mt7g
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>>255882195
But Oscar was meant to be more of a companion like Solaire.
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>>255883831
The fact that he teaches you the best gesture in the entire Souls series makes him my favourite character.
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>>255887765
YEEEAAH. Every time someone rags on DS2's music I refer them to Vendrick's song. Almost as good as Gwyn's, and that one was sweet as hell
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>>255883795
>willingly giving views to someone who steals ideas and posts from /v/ and /vg/ and passes them off as his own content
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>>255888172
Seems pretty accurate.

His whole thing about Heid's tower of flame being a new city that tits god built after she left Anor Londo seemed pretty bullshit.

Epic Name Bro makes the best souls videos of all time.
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>>255888172
uncomfortably accurate

b-but he posts other people singing shitty songs about Dark Souls!!
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>>255869004
Melentia and Thomas.
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Straid was such an asshole

I buy stuff and trade souls with him but then he says >>255880871
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>>255888315
ENB is great. His latest video (Dark Chat #2) has him talking about how he doesn't want to use Patreon because he sees it as taking money directly from viewers, meanwhile Vaati has had a Patreon since day 1. Hmm...

And ENB also shat on Vaati in his latest channel update video. Marcus is based as fuck.
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>>255869004
Me too OP
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I wanted to protect her. I wanted to save her.
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>>255888507
>Straid was such an asshole
You got that right.

Also why did Straid trade boss soul weapons as well as spells? He should have done the spells while Ornifex should have done the weapons.
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DeS: Bjorr, runner up Mephistopheles
DaS: Oswald [the pardoner guy, not sure if I'm mixing his name up], runner up Hawkeye Gough
DaS2: Straid, runner up Gavlan/Shalquoir

Straid is my favorite out of all of them, what a manly man.
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>>255888614
FEEBLE CURSED ONE
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>>255888567
>that tiny Havel
>that mousepad
10/10
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>>255888567
I want that

>>255888568
too bad she sucks
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>>255888568
Me too anon
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>>255888739
>that one member of the ganksquad bossfight in the DLC is wearing Lucatiel's mask
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>255888670
FEEBLE CURSED ONE
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>>255888812
i read that in his voice every fucking time
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>>255888670
straid, gavlaan, navlaan, agdayne, and vengarl were the best npcs.
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>>255881949
>but it still isn't known what the fuck the thing does.
It's very, VERY explicitly said by the Emerald Herald that the Throne is needed to rekindle the first flame.
Not only by her, but by Vendrick in said DLC.

What are you smoking?
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>>255888807
>In-Game Description: Mask attached to a ceremonial hat. Belonged to Lucatiel of Mirrah
Shes kill ;_;
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>>255881949
The ToW is the Kiln of the First Flame. We weren't given a choice for the ending like in Dark Souls 1 because at the end of all the DLCs we'll get the 'real' ending.
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>>255888889
Agdayne is pretty underrated, I loved his insight into the world of the dead, and I'm still left wondering if "the one who gave us the first death" is Nito or not, because Nito was "First of the Dead".
Wouldn't it be someone who killed him?
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>>255889091
Notice how Adgayne says he is a FeNITO. And that the singing lolis in the Shrine of Amana are MilfaNITOs. Nito was the one that made all of them.
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>>255888962
if you've ever summoned her, you'll have seen why she is kill
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>>255889253
They buffed Lucatard's HP though, she can reliably survive against even Smelter now.

Benhart, on the other hand... the fucking idiot gets his ass 3-shot by Nashandra.
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>>255889091
He calls himself an Afinito or something with the word Nito in it, so I'm assuming he's talking about Nito.

>>255888692
The AI alies in Das2 just seem dumb. When you fight one they're surprisingly smart and put up a good fight, then in boss fights they just non stop hack away at bosses and don't ever seem to really block.

It's really odd, AIs in Das1 seemed fairly competent. The only one I can think of that's good is the Jester that you can summon for the poison medusa.
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>>255889337
>she can reliably survive against even Smelter now.
She still walks off cliffs like a champ.
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>>255889359
>The only one I can think of that's good is the Jester that you can summon for the poison medusa.
All DLC invaders and summons have stupidly good AI,
Except for Benhart.
As usual.

>yfw you can summon Creighton
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>>255889371
That is true.
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>>255889337
Oh really? When did that happen? Haven't summoned her in forever
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>>255889194
Fenito and milfanito, yeah.
Also, when the milfanito sing to the "little ones" they mean the fire flies, which keeps the enemies in the area friendly, all the enemies will aggro onto you when they stop singing because the fire flies will disappear, that was a really cool detail.
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>>255889503
Ever wonder why the Milfs were in the Shrine in the first place? To block access to the Undead Crypt. They tell you that those influenced by the "Dark" are susceptible to their singing, so that's why Nashandra gets you to get the King's Ring since she is part of Manus, the blackest motherfucker to ever exist.
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>>255874965
>talk to him both times in/outside of sen's funhouse
>see him in Anor Londo, progress through the area
>don't think to go back and talk to him after killing the silver knights
>he's gone for the rest of my playthrough

Probably a better fate than the one he had coming ;_;
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>>255889642
Nashandra is part of Manus? Is there anything that discusses Das2 lore and links to das1? I can't find shit.
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>>255889740
How did you not put that together? Go watch TerraMantis' videos. Stay away from VaatiVidya, he's a shill.

Basically, when Manus got rekt his soul split into tiny fragments, Nashandra being the smallest. She longed for power, so she bribed Vendrick with her sweet dark puss, but it wasn't enough - she wanted the Throne of Want, AKA the Kiln of the First flame.
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>>255889740
Read her soul description, and all three boss weapon descriptions.
"When the ___ of Dark fell, his soul split into shards" blah blah
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>>255888172
I frankly don't care whether or not he 'steals' shit. I haven't found anything on /v/, side for shitposting and the regular garbage. As for /vg/, I can't say since I haven't actually looked in /dsg/ since before I started playing dark souls, not wanting to have it ruined for me.

That being said, his information seems fairly good; regardless of whether or not it was 'stolen'.
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>>255871867
>But I take a lot of damage per hit so now I'm dumping points into Resistance
Resistance does nothing. Literally nothing.
Just get Vit (health) and End (better armour) if you want to take more hits.
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>>255890137
The problem most people on /v/ and /dsg/ have with him is that he always refers to 4chan as "some anonymous board on the internet" in order to please his reddit audience, whom then think he's talking about them.

Then again maybe that is a good thing, better let those retards stay where they are and not bringing them here.
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>>255892495
I can see how some people would get upset with that, I suppose. Personally I don't mind either way, since it's the information that I want and he supplies it. I'm sure there are plenty of other places to get it, I just haven't found anyone else that actually makes decent DS lore videos.

At the risk of getting hated to hell and back, I'd have to say that I'm not a fan of ENB. The few videos I watched, keyword being few, I found that he wasn't being very straight to the point. A lot of unnecessary talk about shit that was unrelated, which put me off from his videos.
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Played Demon's Souls. Loved it.

Was gifted Dark Souls for PS3. Never got around to it.

Have Dark Souls 2 for PC.

So, where should I go from here? 1st one on PS3 or 2nd one on PC?
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>>255893180
Get Dark Souls for PC (pirate it if you're poor) and after that play Dark Souls 2 on the PC.
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>>255893180
Play 1 first if you trust yourself to savor the experience instead of rushing through because of your backlog.
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>>255893180
Definitely play 1 before 2. It's an amazing game, and going from 2 to 1 could feel a bit sluggish.
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>no mention of benhart

cmon now, he was a bro, even helped you in your final fight
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>>255894070
benhart was cool and all, just didn't seem very fleshed out as a character. Maybe it was just me who missed things though.
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In DaS2 none of them were memorable.

Seriously fuck this game.
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>>255894563
FEEBLE UNDEAD
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Too many to list for Demon's Souls. I really love that game and the characters in it.

There are a lot of good ones in Dark Souls too, but I liked the Primordial Serpents (Kaathe in particular), Ingward, the merchants and blacksmiths, Chester, Solaire, Siegmeyer, and Dohmnall.

The list is way shorter in Dark Souls 2. I liked Straid both because of his characterization and that he was willing to actually talk to you about things in general instead of clamming up like an asshole. Shalquoir was great, being well-written, lively, and again, actually willing to talk to you about what's going on in Drangleic and history as a whole. She was also mysterious in a good way, as opposed to much of DaS 2. Another good mystery was Grandahl, who shared with you the secrets and progression of the Abyss while seeming kind of scholarly in a way. He felt like a character who sought to understand both the Flame and the Dark and decided that the Dark was simply best for the world at the time. Finally, Vengarl is easily the best-written character in the game, having a full arc, an actual life to him before his current predicament, intriguing circumstances to his state of being, and a bond that eventually pays off with him being a summon against the final boss.
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>>255874209
He probably just went there because it was close by and the first area wasn't dangerous. The hollows there still have their sanity left and kind of sit together in their misery. He probably felt that he'd fit right in.
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