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Is this piece of shit the most OP weapon in the whole Souls series?

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Is this piece of shit the most OP weapon in the whole Souls series?

>dat damage
>dat range
>dat moveset
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it can pretty much carry a shit player through the game

when i got it in my first playthrough i avoided using it because it was so gamebreakingly good

lucern best sword
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Hornet's Ring + Bandit knife + Flip ring
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>>255503849
>tryhard faggot that doesnt use his swordfu or actually uses other weapons because he saw some mlgpro gank him with one
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I used a lightning gargoyle halberd. It did more damage.
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i feel bad for having the longsword as my faviourite weapon because it's generic as fuck but dat moveset man
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Red Iron Twinblade in DS2 cuts through havels like a hot knife through butter. It blows that shit out of the water.
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>Dat free backstab every time you swing it
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Nope. Only special early on. Does the exact same damage as a fully upgraded halberd of any other kind.

Zweihander though, zweihander is the single most broken PvE weapon to ever grace a Souls game.
>accessible from the very start
>stuns EVERYTHING that can be stunned in the game with one 2hr2, if not flattening them outright
>long reach, excellent damage for the weight, easy to use
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>tfw upgrade it because it looks so beautiful and fits my armor decoration
>tfw feel like a cheap asshole whenever I use it because it's so good
Fucking dicks
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>>255506179
I only used a +10 lighting longsword and +10 lightning greatsword to get all the achievements
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>>255509369
Swings really slow and that's its downside
I agree though it's a strong weapon but it does have its disadvantages
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>>255503849
Gargoyle Halberd +15 at 40/40 STR/DEX out damages it, same moveset.

My vote for most OP weapon is the Defender's Greatsword.
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>>255509369
I extensively used the Zweihander, after finding the Claymore I dropped it. It is better in damage than the Claymore, but for me, the Claymore has better moveset.
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syan's halberd pre-patch

Fun times were had
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>>255509369
This. I really loved the Zweihander, if only it wouldn't suck so much in DS2.
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>>255503849
Oh, you mean the Mirdan Hammer-lite?

It's so fucking easy to spot people who didn't play Demons Souls.
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Halberds are most likely the best weapon for PvE
their only disadvantage is never a problem when you don't miss, which is easy

>>255509369
zweihander doesnt even have comparable speed
against all but the slowest bosses you will get a lot more chances to attack without getting hit yourself with a halberd than a ugs
but its a strong PvP weapon
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>>255510103
is the greatsword op? i used it as soon as i could get it in sens fortress, i used zweihander before that.
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>>255503849
That's not the great scythe.
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I've been using the mastodon greatsword and the mace

I really want to go back to ultra greatswords but they are so slow
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>>255510551
>is the greatsword op?
No
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>Not using the Pike from start to end
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>>255510340
Mirdan Hammer isn't OP in PvE.

Magic is. Bows are. Greataxes are.
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>>255504023
Chaos Rapier is actually better for cheesing with backstabs and lag.
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>>255510340
and?
want a prize for that?
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I used the Mace all the way through for my solo pure melee playthrough

It was my first souls game
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>>255510050
Didn't the Defender's Greatsword get nerfed?
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>>255510340
You must be fun at parties
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>>255511152
is the chaos rapier actually better than other rapiers other than being neccesary for navlaan invasion dress up?
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>tfw you dismiss a weapon as useless in PvP
>somebody wrecks your shit with it
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>>255511492
I don't know that feel. Everyone is god awful at this game.
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>archery will never be viable as anything more than a side weapon in the souls series

das2 made the archer playstyle a little bit better by cleaning up bow animations and firing speed, but the damage is still miserable

>hex/magic is a fucking one-button bazooka for almost no stamina at all
>it takes an average of six arrows to match a single hex cast

>arrows are still hilariously 'slow' given that they're fucking arrows
>magic is literally space bullets

why
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Finally got the game to work with a reasonable frame rate on my PC.

I don't know if it's because I'm too used to DaS2 but goddamn, this game definitely feels harder. That said, backstabs are easy as fuck to pull off and just strafing to the side makes quite a few enemies easy. I can see why they made every enemy in DaS2 track you.
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>>255506179

I loved the Sun Sword for that reason too.
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>>255511221
>equip mace for skelly lords fight
>backstab one of them, didn't even know you could on these guys
>mfw kicking in an ancient lich's knee and smashing its face in with a hunk of solid steel

It may not have been as good as the first but DaS2 definitely had its moments.
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>>255511790

And by 'the game' I meant the first Dark Souls, of course.
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>>255511449
Navlaan cosplay in the first one? Huh.

Anyway, Rapier is the fastest and most damaging elemental weapon, perfect for VIT gouges.

It twoshots most but heavily armored players. A Crystal Large Club is still better but if you miss the swing you're fucked.
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>>255510318
they buffed it recently its now pretty good
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>>255511780
The new DLC crossbows are amazing. Try them out on a dark 30/30 int/fai build.
Their special attacks blast right through shields for 400+ damage and track amazingly well.

>>255512016
They didn't. They gave it 10 whopping AR, and got rid of its stunlock. It's worse now.
It's somewhat more viable on a heavy armor build, but no.
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>>255511780
Archery is only good if people try to run off and heal.
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>>255511492
>tfw using something others always considered completely overpowered -but never had problem fighting against- and it's shit
god, katanas are terrible

>>255511780
bow of want is nice, i manage to pull of 300-400 damage per shot in PvP
but it gets bad in PvE once you hit enemies with good defenses and most stronger boss takes ages to finish off
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>>255511363
It did, but so far it seems to still be ridiculously good. That fucking greatsword moveset in PvP, man... Don't get me started on that shit.
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>>255512005
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Chaos+Rapier
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Dark Souls

best spear/halberd weapon for 40/40strdex
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>>255512231
no its still stunlocks on certain conditions

Ill use fighting game terms but, it still two hits on counter hit and/or if you break enough poise
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It's my main weapon for DS2, I just love halberds.

I like how to hit with max damage you have to actually hit with the blade, i.e. if you hit from up close with a swing you end up doing half damage.
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>>255512332
Tracking is the culprit for greatsword moveset bullshitery. You should not ever be able to just stand in one place without even touching your movement stick and be able to swing 180 degrees behind yourself just by pressing R1 again after someone rolls behind you.
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>>255503973
>lucerne
>sword

you mean the estoc?
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>>255512979
I mean, it's not even fucking consistent, you can see how it should be working if you try to swing directly after a roll, you continue to face the direction you were rolling in unless you let the roll animation finish and then point yourself in the direction you want to attack. Standing there with someone locked on with R1 should keep you continuing to swing in the same direction you started in if you keep spamming it, if you wait for it to reset and don't combo THEN you should be able to track on the next swing, at least that's how it should work
.
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>>255512979
>Tracking is the culprit for . . . .

. . . . almost everything at fault for why DAS2 has such shit tier game mechanics

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>>255503849
I use it for bosses mainly, or for things with a lot of poise in general.
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Giant Scythe is way stronger.

Also, the 2h moveset is ridiculously good.
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Zweihander was much more viable is Dark Souls than in DaS2.

Black Knight Sword is my guilty pleasure.
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>>255503849
I can't use anything except greatswords anymore. I switch between Moonlight Greatsword and the Black Knight's Greatsword for their coverage and damage which are both real fucking high.

Any other weapon just feels real awkward to use, or the move sets leave me open for an uncomfortably long time, or the damage is just terrible. I'm on NG+++ so every point of damage counts.
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>>255510551
It's not OP like dexterity weapons, but has a much better heavy attack than the Zwei does, and slightly better damage.
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