So, up to Yukikos castle. Not too bad, rough in parts, had to use pretty much everything I had on the subboss.
Finally make it to the top and Shadow Yukiko just wiped me out. Had to give up and come back the next day. Did better but couldn't quite beat her, that fire AoE being cast twice in a row just wrecked me.
So the game is very clear that I don't need to rush things and that I shouldn't be only fighting, so that's fine, but obviously I do need to do some grinding to beat her. Don't think I can do it at lv13.
So I was expecting most of my non mission days would be spent getting my stats up, but looks like I need'a balance grinding in too.
Am I right? How much grinding should I be doing? Is there an efficient way of doing it?
Assuming this is vanilla and your first time playing purse owner than don't worry, she's surprisingly difficult for a first time run.
Basically you want to be blocking with Chie when you think she's going to cast her fire attacks to stop her getting 2 turns.
Unless you picked up a skill called red wall which you can cast to cover her weakness.
Rely on strategy. Grinding isn't a necessity. P4 uses the Once More system which is like the press turns in Nocturne.
Fuse a persona which has Red Wall (increases fire resistance). Cover your weaknesses, that is a key element in Megaten games. Persona 4 does not have the exhaustion stat of 3, so you can go nuts on persona hunting from battles. Also keep plenty of healing items for each ailment (10-20 at minimum)
This is the PS2 version, right? Heard she got nerfed on Golden so this can't be it.
If it's the PS2 then it's understandable as she's the hardest boss in the game. Had a hard time myself. Just have Chie on guard all the time and just slowly chip away at her HP with Protag and Yosuke. If you're desperate for heals then make Chie an item bot but get her back to guarding as soon as your topped up. Pretty sure 13 is already a good level.
We couldn't protect that smile.
I want to put my dick in Yukiko
She's probably the hardest boss in the game. If you can, fuse Obaryion (that's probably the incorrect spelling).
After her, you can and should attempt to beat every dungeon in one day.
>>She's probably the hardest boss in the game.
She also gives me the hardest dick, if you know what I mean.
You don't have to grind, just fuse personas that aren't shit.
P4 is painfully mediocre gameplay-wise. It's just a social sim with gameplay tacked on on the side.
There's really no way to go about saying this without sounding like an elitist HURR GITGUD fuckface, but P4 is the easiest game in the franchise. And you're struggling with the first boss.
I know people don't like her hyena laughs, but I find her random airhead moments really cute.
Actual best girl coming through
Get the Fox that heals you in the tv world
Save your money
Go through dungeon
If you're not strong enough to get through it, grind
Use Fox to heal yourself
Never spend more than one afternoon in the tv world
>Needs Yukiko to validate her own existence.
Chie is a Yukikofag anon, you have to accept that.
What makes Yukiko so good-looking?
Straight long black hair.
Decent sized chest.
This reminds me of how fucking bland the whole shadow thing was. I mean, really, their deepest, darkest secrets were "I don't want to live in the boonies" or "I want to fuck the cute chick from work" or "I don't want to be my parents"? I mean, one or two of them had legitimately serious issues to sort through, but on the whole it was pretty weak.
>my face when I saw that the first time
I never liked yukiko, but damn...
That was one of the things that pissed me off in Persona 3 on PSP, you only got to see the character-portraits' upper body, the only time you got to see the 3d-models was in the dungeons.
I still enjoyed the game though.
Having no money left over to spend on other things than battle-related items wasn't nice.
>hurr go work daycare then
And neglect other Social Links? No thank you.
>Best girl with ponytail
Loved every second of it
On another note, that scene confused me in game because they were wearing the swimsuits that Yosuke bought them. I'd have thought they would have worn them that one time and got rid of them.
I never played the game.
What was Yukiko's relationship like with best girl before she came out as best girl?
Already knew that, cause /v/ spoiled it for me.
Also, OP, wait until you get to Shadow Mitsuo, most of the hours I clocked in was spent in his dungeon because I didn't have Black Frost and was level 35.
he called her the pint-sized detective, which naoto didnt like. But except for that very little, its near the end and then the character interaction is almost dead because shit is going down.
oops, missread yosuke.
>that feel when no persona comics got hit by the exhentai purge
>You will never convince Yukikos parents that you are just a good friend that wants to help Yukiko out at the inn while they are away and fuck her silly as soon as they leave
I exist to suffer.
>you will never turn yukiko in a lewd girl that gets horny from the slightest touches
I don't know about P3P but I do remember in P3FES on one of the stat screens you see an outline of the characters full body that scrolls up and down.
Yukari's legs look like a miracle of the universe.
I do wonder if someone has stitched the outlines together.
This isn't a good spoiling technique, because it's out in the open.
I like to go into threads where no one is spoiling at all, and put spoilers in tags. If they open them, they blame themselves for opening a spoiler, even though I left it there with the intent being for them to open it. It's like the story of Pandora's Box.
she really wants to cuddle on your couch but she is afraid she walks too fast and trips over her kimono
>she'l never be real
Though if the multiverse theory is to be believed then somewhere out there exists a Naoto who shitposts on /v/ about me being the best boy.
She's got shit taste
after hours of research I have concluded Rise is best girl.
>tfw skirts are nearly extinct in my country
why does rise only have hiragana for her name but the others kanji?
Parents are the ones who decide on what kanji they want to use for the name, it's not always set. Hell, sometimes they just pick kanji they like and come up with a reading for it, which is why Nips oiften explain how to write their name when they introduce themselves.
Having a name only in hiragana is considered girly and cute. Ai's name is only in hiragana too.
>P4 is the easiest game in the franchise
You know how I know you didn't play either P2 game and are just claiming you did?
Also, Shadow Yukiko is one of the harder bosses in vanilla P4.
>start playing purse-owner 4
>remember watching the endurance run years ago
>raise it 2 levels
>learn red wall
>fuse it multiple times to get an awesome persona which knows red wall
>kick shadow yukiko's ass
anyone else disappointed by the golden anime. I liked the idea of NG+ MC but after the first TV part they were like fuck it more marie
How would you make Yukiko go doki doki for you?
I'm kinda mad they're shoving her into all the golden events she wasn't involved in.
Yukiko didn't need Chie per-se. Anyone would have sufficed as long as she could place all the responsibility on that person.
The Innocent Sin characters had a lot more fucked up things in their past.
The scoobies all had pretty simple lives, aside from Naoto and Rise. Everyone else's issues were basic teenage shit.
Yukiko relied on Chie even though she's "better" than her in most ways and probably wouldn't need to.
Chie got off on how much she relied on her and could use that to gain control of the relationship.
In turn Chie was depending on Yukiko who was depending on Chie etc etc
It's a pretty common dynamic for two people to have, even if it goes unspoken.
Meh, it's easy to say that when you've got a firm grasp of how to write latin characters.
You'd be surprised how easy it is to make even the letter T look "wrong" depending on how it's drawn.
Also there's the difference between how things are printed and how they're handwritten.
I imagine kanji to be somewhat like signatures, they can look really complicated but it's usually just a learned motion through repetition.
>all this yukikofags
you make me proud
I don't think red wall is necessary, or easy to get that early in the game. Just pick someone with innate fire resistance.
I remember I used Valkarie's Arm Chop pretty much every turn. I was dealing 100-200 damage a hit after Tarajuka, which left the other two free to heal and guard.
This was on hard mode though, so I can't guarantee it'll work on Very Hard.
Do data entry for a while at a company that deals with a lot of handwritten correspondence.
You would be astonished at how horrible people's handwriting gets.
I say this as someone who has an actual neurological disability that fucks with their fine motor skills. My handwriting is horrifyingly bad- especially if I'm nervous.
I've seen people who make my handwriting look like fucking calligraphy.
If you ever, EVER grind in a Persona game, then you're simply playing it wrong. The entire story can be beaten with zero grinding, and each dungeon can be beaten without dedicating any extra days to it. Just use your head and fuse your personas.
>She's probably the hardest boss in the game. If you can, fuse Obaryion (that's probably the incorrect spelling).
I always hear this, but I've never agreed with it. I had a lot more trouble with Kanji's boss fight. I had to seriously grind before I could beat that. Or else I was seriously underleveled.
>After her, you can and should attempt to beat every dungeon in one day.
That's pushing it a little. I wouldn't suggest trying that until you've got your Hermit social link up to level 6 or 7. That's the point when it no longer costs more money to heal than you make grinding.
>If you ever, EVER grind in a Persona game
Depends on the difficulty level.
I played P4G at Hard (there is also Very Hard) and did not grind at all.
Then I played P3FES at Hard (which is Highest difficulty) and had to grind get pass bosses.
What are the chances of getting a busty girl with straight long black hair in the Persona 5?
>in P3FES on one of the stat screens you see an outline of the characters full body that scrolls up and down.
Welp, I guess it's time to replay all of fucking Persona once again.
Does anyone know when the english dub for P4G comes out? i cant deal with moonspeak.
Also chie best grill, yukiko will be a cock hungry monster when she gets out of iniba.
Anon who did moon through high school and one semester at uni here.
Kanji a shit, at least the manner in which I was taught. It was straight up rote including the stroke order. My
jp gfsaid when her parents taught her she learned through radicals (see: http://kanjialive.com/214-traditional-kanji-radicals/) which makes way more sense and looks tonnes easier.
Hiragana and katakana are easy modo though.
if you looked on internet you would probably already run into radicals. Same with being taught kanji, they tell you to draw them 5000 times so you know them. It is better to do a few daily and then mix them up instead of constantly drawing 1.
>>Hiragana and katakana are easy modo though.
too bad everything past children books uses kanji
We didn't do radicals at all at school. We just straight up had to rote shit like the kanji for iku and remember for which I, ironically, can't remember the japanese word. Oboeru?
Not to imply that either were difficult kanji but they're just a couple which come to mind.
Everyone has different tastes but we can all agree that marie is shoehorned as fuck.
But chie is best girl
But chie is best girl
good joke anon.
I can't bring myself to do this to any of the girls.
I know that feel, the feel of a true beta. Someone who wont date multiple virtual girls for fear of hurting their feelings.
This seriously needs to be a thing.
then why does she say yuu in that pic?
>tfw doing a harem run and romancing all the girls but in the end I'll reject them all for Yukiko
Totally worth it
Labrys gives me a thing, if you catch my drift.
The thing is a boner.
Because it doesn't, as far as the random translation I saw says.
And even if it did, people are free to imagine the wrong things.
nah, she has to be a virgin for her job, she just blows them
>???? ???????? ????? ?????
>You'll never cuddle with Yukiko and kiss her
I'd rather do that with Chie but you're allowed to enjoy your waifu
It's on the P3P version as well.
I'm assuming it's just an outline and they don't actually have a fully drawn portrait somewhere.
Still surprises me that no one has tried to stick the thing together to get everyone's full character outline
Yukikofags are best fags
She seems the sort that would ride your dick with a huge smile on her face. All your waifus are alright.
>chiefags desperately try to stem the naoto tide with their inferior waifu
>rise gentlemen have to deal with the unwashed masses thinking that she is a whore
>yukikomen discussing in a way that is just as bland as their waifu
>P4 waifu thread
It's been pretty much entirely Yukiko with occasional Chie and Rise and even less occasional other girls.
>about as real as she is
I always thought Fuuka kinda looked like a granny, what with her hair color and shortness, not to mention that blanket-looking thing she wears in winter. She looks cuter in arena though, what with the lighter colored, braided hair.
Because I'm not into polygamy and I'm sure that Chie would be sad that she wasn't enough for me.
>She looks cuter in arena though,
But that's wrong anon.
She could really do with a wardrobe change.
I really prefer her old look, but the new one looks like it's going to stick around. Can't win em all.
You're telling me I've been missing out on Fuuka threads? Shit son, I gotta keep a better eye out.
You're right. There can only be one.
Personally I think every girl party member is great except for Naoto, who's a bitch nigga
Nah, don't worry. He will friendzone her.
Dating her is weird anyway. You are pretty much using her and the fact she knows jack shit about human world. At least Liz was willing and it was her idea.
it just works as a way to remind you of their weaknesses if you forgot. In Golden once Rise has her persona evolve for a second time she can pretty much tell you any shadow's weakness if your character has a spell/attack of that element/type, which is why I rolled with the original 4 and taught Chie and Yukiko hamaon/mudoon. In a single rotation of every character you effectively learned every weakness
I want to brush Yukikos hair.
>casuals cant beat shadow mitsuo without Black Frost
They have different purposes. In P3, you were supposed to analyze enemies, wait for the analysis to finish, then attack the weak point you were told, or else guess and then have to remember everyone's weak point. In P4, you're supposed to guess first, and there's no need to hold off on killing enemies just to get an analysis.
It helps to level up Rise's S link. At level 10, she tells you if your current persona can hit someone's weakpoint when your turn comes around, and if you get her 3rd form, she just skips all that and tells you everyone's weakness.
>implying yukiko would do lewd things like that without being married
Yuki is too pure for things like that.
>Yuki is too pure for things like that.
She's a closet slut, m8.
She's pure as snow. Her name confirms that
>Dying in Persona 4
>the casualry is strong with this one
On the other hand Naoto is just childish.
Truly best girl.
"The same can said about all women."
yes, we see now why chie is best girl
>There are casualry in this very thread and we are talking to them
I know right
they have best chemistry
>persona 5 isn't about nanako's high school adventures
mc leaves chie, someone has to fill that hole in her heart
>, someone has to fill that hole
Won't be Yosuke.
He's too busy making toast.
Started playing P3, the progression feels weird compare to 4. Like 4 felt like it had direction but there is loads of shit happening here and I'm not sure when to do what and how long to spend training. The social links are pretty meh so far, the only interesting one is the qt brown girl. Though all the music but the dorm music is better
All-out Attack guy here, have a Rise version. Like the attention whore she is, she takes up most of the screen.
The humble Yukiko takes up less of the screen so others can get more recognition.
not canon, don't care what you say
I'd like to see Yosuke have fun shadow Op adventures with his Boston toaster.
He could be annoying and immature at times but without him the IT wouldn't have even happened and when he was on his own in Arena he was one of the more competent characters.
Also he's the only one who had some one he actually gave a shit about murdered.
Sure it was some fleeting teen crush but that shit's gotta suck
he's a bro all right, but not the trustworthy kind
>Though all the music but the dorm music is better
pleb as fuck
>The humble Yukiko takes up less of the screen so others can get more recognition
>qt brown girl
Yuko? God tier taste, son.
Believe as you will.
Yosuke's one of my favorite characters from the game. I feel like he gets a lot of shit from fans and gets compared to Junpei a lot, but he's not that similar to him. Yosuke's more immature in a lot of ways, but he's a good guy through and through, even when he's being a little too selfish.
I still kinda wish there'd been a romance link with him, honestly.
Not that guy, but dorm music sucked.
Snow Queen best track
Implying I didn't hunt the fucker down after beat his at the end of Chie Sl
The boy had a 6 a good months before Yu. Should of jumped on at the booty when he had the chance. Now all he has not is Teddy and shiny Toaster
I'm not committing yet as I've not met everyone but she is pretty high on the list right now
She's the only one right now who has some kind of personality and isn't trying to get raped by a teacher
>implying Chie and Akihiko won't be fucking by the end of P4U2
Stand by her accomplishing her goals of coaching kids, before both working on a brood of your own.
It's the purest love, and you know she'd shag like a wild-cat when her biological clock kicks into high gear.
Stupei isn't more mature than anyone.
Yosuke actually has a job, you know. People rail on him for being a yes-man for Yu, but the last thing I'd want to do after work is play Scooby Doo: JoJolion Boogaloo.
it's like you have never been a teenage dude
oh wait, you must be a female
gtfo you disgusting fujoshi
I know that 4 was basically Plot > Dungeon > Hijinks > Plot > Dungeon etc and P3 may take a little longer to get into that pattern but it does happen.
It's arguably better because the characters themselves are aware of the situation and comment on it more.
Hell sometimes even they can't be fucked with grinding and they blow you off, but others they're super up for it.
All of the dating links are automatically dating.
IIRC, it's Yuko, Chihiro, Mitsuru, Fuuka, Yukari and... I could swear there's a sixth. I might've forgotten. So yeah, if you want all of the social links, MC is banging five girls.
And touching Aegis's heart.
Yep- though you don't have to. Akihiko, Ken, Shinjiro, and Ryoji.
It's surprising he didn't succeed.
She was easier than Lisa.
That was his first mistake. Got to plan accordingly when it comes to bitches. While he was sitting on 1 bitch, Yu had a chart of bitches to chose from.
Nah he's just a dicknose
Oh yeah, I forgot.
P3 is a lot tighter timewise if you want to max all the links. You generally need to start them as early as you can and do shit on off days to boost it. P4 is super lenient on scheduling comparatively.
Going by how he is in P4A, looks like hes been prostituting himself for money
>I don't think red wall is necessary, or easy to get that early in the game. Just pick someone with innate fire resistance.
One of the lowest-level Personas (Slime) learns it at level 4. It's also fairly easy to fuse a slime into something else, and then fuse that together with another demon to get a Senri which completely nullifies fire, but I don't remember exactly what the formula was.
You don't need to have Red Wall up constantly, just use it when the prince is around so Chie can can take him down quick.
Are you playing vanilla, FES, or Portable?
If you're playing vanilla or FES, you're gonna want to push that tiredness- especially early on. Two or three nights in Tartarus a month is really your max, though- and you shouldn't go back after you hit the top of your progression. You're really going to be after money at the start of the game more than XP though, so if everyone goes home but you still think you need cash and want to take the risk...
Portable makes it so tiredness doesn't kick in until the next day and people don't leave if they get tired, so you might as well blow your tartarus load once a month.
when you arent doing SLs or boosting your stats you should be in tartarus levelling up and doing Elizabeths quests.
dont just stand around passing days, use the time as much as you can.
Once a week and clear two guardians, or once a month and clear all 4/5.
Unless you're in hard mode you shouldn't worry too much about being underleveled.
Improving your S. Links should be a priority so you can summon better Purse Owners.
Like I said, it depends on the version. Portable can go once a month due to the change of the tiredness mechanic. It's more like Persona 4 that way.
Vanilla and FES, you're gonna want to go more often- which makes the scheduling even tighter. You've got pretty minimal free time in Vanilla and even less in FES.
How good a waifu is Mitsuru, seeing as you have to be super smart to talk with her I'm guessing she is kinda end game
Mitsuru's the best waifu, even if she is a bit dominating.
But yeah, you're not dating her until really late.
You may want to look at a schedule FAQ if you're interested in seeing how tight it gets- it'll also give you an idea of additional ways to get stat bumps.
For example, I didn't know that you could go to the nurse's office when sick to get free courage boosts. Which is a damned good reason to push those Tartarus nights as hard as you fucking can, and make it a point ot get sick as often as possible.
Nonsense they wouldn't do that.
They won't. Picking one waifu would be a suicide.
There again it looks like they are skipping Adachi's S.Link, which is pretty much the only reason Nips were hyped for the anime.
But I still doubt they will go that far with pushing her.