Hell I miss the old threads when the only game released in the soul series was Demons Souls, the community became shit after that
Demons Souls thread
Agree completely OP. It's been very disappointing to see what happened to the fanbase and I doubt Bloodborne is going to be able to fix it since everyone who can't have it wants to shitpost about it now.
Anyway if you want to start a good thread you should have a topic. Favourite area?
I think Shrine of Storms has the best aesthetics of the whole series so far. Gotta respect people when they say Latria or the swamp but the shrine strikes a nice balance between comfy and intimidating.
pcfags and xkids will never have this
Honestly, the combat just isn't as good, it's much floatier. However, there's not as much focus on enemy interaction as there is in DaS, it's more about environment interaction. DeS also has some great boss fights compared to DaS.
i have a question: how hard is it to plat demon's souls? got the plat in DaS I/II and would like to play this game too, but i'm a huge fag and want the plat if i play it. any opinions on difficulty
with and without self duping
Hardest of the 3. World Tendency weapons and PURE FUCKING BLADESTONE are a pain. I still did it and it was fun. Pure Bladestone took me 11 fucking hours of grinding to find though.
DeS fanbase became insecure because Sony fucked up and From Software made Dark Souls Multiplat. Since DeS was the only good reason to own a PS3 a lot of you felt insecure and had the need to shitpost all souls games going forward.
i've heared about the bladestone thing. i normally
like farming.isn't world tendency just always going hollow into the chapters and killing all bosses to get pure white and then dying like 7 times or so to get pure black?
The whole was mentality is what I think he is referring to.
You guys never actually talk about demon's souls, you only take about how great it was when you did talk about it and how dark souls ruined it.
I like DeS a lot, but come on now. You have to notice DeS threads are usually just people saying xbots and pcfags won't get to play it and they only get to play Dark Souls.
Pretty much. Always suicide in the nexus and keep track of all tendency related events so you dont miss anything. Also make sure to get the correct ending because 1 of the endings gives the soul required for the final spell.
Demon had best NPC. Sure, Dark had Solaire and Onion and Dark 2 had Gavlan Wheel Gavlan Deal, but Stockpile Thomas is the best.
I'm not the guy you were talking to but you can definitely tell you weren't here for the early threads. I'm not justifying the behaviour of DeS fans now as I think you're right that it all too often turns into petty arguments but the problem definitely happened when the series expanded to casual xbots and only got worse with the PC release.
The people who played and talked about Demon's Souls back then did it because they loved it not because they were bandwagoning on a social phenomenon. The conversation was much more friendly/intelligent and the OC was amazing.
I know, I was in those.
I am not talking about those. I am talking about how they are long over and how people repeatedly make threads to blame dark souls for it and not actually talk about the game.
The threads were real fucking nice before, yeah. But now they are no better than all the dark souls threads people blame for it. People sit around and just complain about others.
DaS threads were civil too. Things went to shit when people began arguing about which games were best and when people began calling both or one of the games shit. Don't fucking dare try to blame of the games for this.
DaS threads were good in the beginning when everybody was still trying to figure out what to do where. Questions from new players were answered nicely and calmly.
But the game got more popular, the community bigger which meant more idiots joined in. Now the Wikis were full with tips and strategies how to beat bosses/areas so that fucking "get good" meme came to life and you could just forget any discussion about the game. I hate those people.
The Souls series just got too popular, and has long since attracted the people on /v/ who only come here to shitpost at everything, and the people who parrot everything they do.
>best greentext stories
>no stupid meme shit
>best random friend requests
I miss it too. Dark Souls was alright for about 3-4 months, until the fanbase turned into Facebook/Reddit users. There is no hope for the community now. See below..
>7 months ago
>There's something truly magical about this community. Call me crazy, call me naive. But I feel like a very select breed of people are drawn to the Souls series. Almost every person I ask about this series has either no idea what it is or they DO know what it is and can't stand it. When Dark Souls launched in my state there were 3 people there.... And even those 3 people didn't seem nearly as "into it" as I was. I was beyond disappointed. I have high hopes for Dark Souls 2 since the growth of this franchise has amounted to something impressive over the past 2 years. But I think this song is nothing short of brilliant. It really cups a hold of your enthusiasm for this game and creates a sensation that not everyone is going to feel and I'm proud of that. These games are scary and that's the ultimate truth. It takes the will of a knight and the heart of an adventurer to stand up to this series, arms in hand. Well I appreciate this series with all of my heart and soul. When Dark Souls 2 arrives I'll be ready to tread the unknown once again with my sword gripped tight shield held high. Remember this: Whatever awaits in this series, new or old, you will always have an amazing community to turn to. Never forget that.
>tfw you've never played Demon's Souls because of its exclusivity
DeS would've been so much better without a couple of the stages.
>path leading to Allant
>last part of Boletaria
Game was hard enough depending on what limits you put upon yourself. Some of the shit I greentexted was just artificial though.
The only hard part was first fight with Allant and trying not to fall at the 4-2 bosses. DeS was easy as fuck, I had a shitton of spare bodies by the time I finieshed it.
Fuck yes des comics were the shit.
I literally cringed.
The reason Vaati is so popular is because he's a normalfag ENB wannabe, so he relates to what the community is now. A bunch of meme spewing normalfags. He has zero dignity and is basically pewdiepie level jew.
>But I think this song is nothing short of brilliant.
Literally 15 years old.
>There's people in this thread who question the purity and good deeds of Astraea.
>How is he a memespouter aside from those times he spouted memes and used /v/ comics to make shitty videos with
You are literally retarded Vaati. Go suck afro or ippiki's dicks again you desperate faggot.
And even as an unfinished game it's much longer and has better areas than DeS.
>And its atmosphere is nowhere near as good as DeS'
>item descriptions bland as hell
>absolutely no background on anything aside from the bare bones of how Boletaria was functioning
>The whole structure is bland as hell too
>Every level is a corridor with an occasional shortcut if it was a bit longer than usual, most of the time not
The community is beyond shit now. Everyone gets so violently angry about every goddamn aspect of Dks2. It's embarrassing. Every LP I've even watched of the game contains at least a 10 minute section of the LPer bitching about how much better they thought Dks1 was. I just enjoy the game, man. Apparently that makes me "wrong" and "stupid" because I don't blame my deaths on the game. I wanted to be a part of the community, but there's no room in such a violent community for someone who enjoys 2.
That's fine. It's their opinion, but they just get so fucking angry about it. It's just a video game. I get so many angry replies on any given forum for even admitting that I like the second game. It's crazy. There's a definite lack of maturity in the Souls community now.
Also, side question, why doesn't anyone just use a shield?? I only roll as a last resort, and I've never experienced "bullshit hitboxes" in 2.
If you don't know what you're talking about, don't ask stupid questions.
This damage control..
So you watched all the regurgitated lore shit a spewed?
Good for you I guess.
Is Demon's Souls extremely easy or does it just seem like that to me because I played hundreds of hours of DaS first? The only boss I took more than two tries on was Flamelurker, I was getting destroyed but I came back later and beat him with the crescent falchion straight away. I died once to Allant because he was the seventh boss I fought and I was too low vit to take a soulsucking, and I died once against Garl because he was hiding in the swamp where you can't move and instantly get the plague. Everything else was done first time. I used fluted armor and a knight sword which was at +7 when I finished, took 14.5 hours. I just felt disappointed that I got through it so easily, considering so many people claim that Dark Souls is a casualised version of its gameplay.
It's a game full of secrets and interpretive lore which is fun discussing. That and every player has fun moments to share.
It's also fun to discuss opinions with people like you would with any film/video game/music ya dingus
>/v/ is one person
Sure Dark Souls is flawed, but it was fun. Maybe I was expecting more, or maybe I'm burnt out since 2009, but Dark Souls 2 was pure boredom. It's the first time during a first playthrough I've put down the controller out of boredom.
For the experienced player, Dark Souls 2 is literally quantity > quality.
Why did FromSoftware nerfed some things in DSII? I mean, the very first patches which nerfed the Last Giant and Lost Sinner?
The were not hard and Last Giant was a nice starting challenge.
It's because you played DaS first.
The only challenge from DaS is un-casualising yourself from most of the AA handholding you've gotten used to, and while it's never hard it's just not baby-tier forgiving like most games. All the Souls games play very similar, so being good at one means you're good at all of them.
It's because you've played hundreds of hours of DaS.
It was hard as balls the first time I played it(no fucking guide or looking up FAQs.)
I plowed through it earlier this year after finishing DaS2.
>if you don't know something, don't ask about it
Then why are you getting mad at the community? Discuss that shit, every thread is seventy diffrent dialogues going on at the same time anyway. How shitty people they are has absolutely no impact on the gameplay or lore you discuss with them.
>How shitty people they are has absolutely no impact on the gameplay or lore you discuss with them.
Actually it does as usually their contributions are shit, wrong, or plain painful to see. That and their idea of "discussion" isn't actually discussion.
it's honestly like you interact with no human beings at all other than yourself or something for you to not grasp the basics as to how overexposure can saturate a community's discussion and adoration for a vidya game, even SP.
Ok fair enough. To think 4chan is the only place I've been able to discuss this without people screaming at me in all caps. To me, personally, and I only speak for myself when I say this, the whole boredom thing was the other way around. I found DaS1 boring about 3/4 through the game and put down the controller on my first playthrough, but in DaS2 I didn't get bored once. I guess it really is just a taste thing. Just confirming to you guys that there ARE people who think DaS1 is the boring one.
>it's honestly like you interact with no human beings at all other than yourself or something for you to not grasp the basics as to how overexposure can saturate a community's discussion and adoration for a vidya game, even SP.
If that happens, you walk away from the threads for some time because you clearly got tired with them and do something else. There's always gonna be new people and they're always gonna ask dumb shit
Don't beat a dead horse, anon, go play and discuss something else, then come back.
>Just confirming to you guys that there ARE people who think DaS1 is the boring one.
While that does rustle me slightly, it's actually pretty understandable. A lot of people seem to acknowledge that after Anor Londo DaS' quality takes quite a dice. O+S is basically the peak and the rest is just a lot more tedious.
>It takes the will of a knight and the heart of an adventurer to stand up to this series, arms in hand
holy fucking shit this is the cringiest shit I've ever dead he must be from plebbit
I agree. Which is why I personally got bored with the game. For the beginning of the game, I prefer DaS1, for the middle parts of the game, I prefer DaS2, and they all have
kind of shittyendings, imo.
Anything popular on /v/, regardless of quality, will be subject to immense amounts of shitposting.
This has happened with most games and series I enjoy, the more popular they get the more people shitpost.
Now imagine if they left the half-finished scraps of archstone #6 in the game. Maybe give them a weekend to copy and paste enemies everywhere as filler.
>does it just seem like that to me because I played hundreds of hours of DaS first
Yeah, that's really just it.
Dark Souls is really a carbon copy of Demon's Souls in a lot of regards, but they throw in a whole bunch more cheap stuff and padded out the length more. I love both games equally, but if you made it through Dark Souls a bunch it should be no problem for anyone.
Hell, most of the shit from DeS that got people, like the dragon on the bridge, the Maneaters, Flamelurker, etc. was reused in DaS, so if you're going back to it it wouldn't be a surprise to you.
I refuse to believe you are being serious.
the king is your father
you play as the prince of boletaria who either abandoned his home when everything went to shit, or left before that and his/her father went mad because of it
Right, he was awakaned, my bad. He was under the Nexus since forever.
>you turn into a Monumental or allow The Old One to finish what it started
>You burn like a cinderblock or put out the flames forever
I dunno, anon, I still like DaS more in this aspect.
DaS has a shitload of background on this, however. DeS does not.
Whatever you say, friends.
Demon's Souls has:
- actually well designed, finished areas
- weapon paths which aren't utterly useless
- NPCs which names you actually remember and cordially care about
- unforgettable bossfights with soulful music
- endings which wrap up the experience satisfyingly
Dark Souls has:
- Uh, poise?
- Praise the sun guy
Dark Souls 2 has:
- Gender change coffin
as much as this is bait I do agree that Garl/Maiden was the shittiest boss ever, with Dragon God coming in close second. Storm king was also shitty and lame.
It's almost like they just half-assed bosses for all world 3's because they ran out of ideas
I really like the areas in DeS. How each world feels like you're exploring deeper into the same place. I also really like the unified world of Dark Souls, where everything fits together and you're pleasantly surprised to see you're not so far from where you began.
It's kind of baffling that Dark Souls 2 combined the two styles in all the wrong ways.
Is there anyone on /v/ that isn't a tryhard that calls everything they play 'omg so ez!'?
Demon's Souls wasn't 'hard' (an example of hard, imo, is the Mega Man games, but that's because I'm not too great at them). It was however challenging.
Flamelurker and Allant had me on my toes the whole time, it was one of those fights where one fuck up on your timing and reactions could kill you.
Honestly the portion of the fanbase and screams that the game is easy as piss and everyone who found any aspect whatsoever of it is pure dogshit is probably the worst part. And hilariously they're also the people who scream 'artificial difficulty' when they die or genuinely do find something difficult.
>weapon paths which aren't utterly useless
you've got to be kidding me. they were completely useless. DaS fixed that completely and you'd be deluding yourself to thinking otherwise
I truly couldn't forget how stupid most of them were (2-3, 4-3, all of VoD bosses) or just lame and easy (aside from 3 or 4 good ones)
Yeah but what he said also is viable to Dark Souls 2
>Under 10 hours
I beat all of the bosses in less than 7 or so
>Infinite healing items
Dks2 Had plenty of those, as well as plenty of checkpoints to refill your healing item/spells
Aside from a few yeah they are all simple
There is one change I really didn't like between DeS and DaS and that was the shitty loading screens.
Each time you loaded in DeS you had these intro cards to the characters you would meet, regardless of when it was. Made it feel like they all had some real weight and merit to them.
I love poise, but I hate how they took out the momentum for big weapons also.
Like, if you're using any weapon that weighs more than ten pounds, once you start your swing it should keep going. But after they introduced poise it turned to "I'm swinging my giant weapon! Oh no, I've been nicked in the elbow. Better recoil in pain! Stop moving, giant weapon, for I have barely been hit."
>Demon's Souls wasn't 'hard'
Nobody said it was except for "gaming journalists", who are all shit at video games, and kept annoying the fuck out of Miyazaki asking him about the difficulty, which was a non-issue for him. They blew it out of proportion and that's how Dark Souls' atrocious tagline came about.
On a related note, did anyone else watch agermanspy lose his shit over auto-tracking. Like Jesus Christ, Franz. You're usually so mature. It's a video game, dude. And that was the second time he fucking lost it completely that episode. Sure, the game has flaws, but it's A GAME. I've never seen someone so professional that close to a full-blown temper tantrum before.
It's true, how could you even call 5-3 a real boss? you just backstab garl because he's a fucking idiot and the girl doesn't do anything. It was more of a disappointment than BoC, which wasn't really a shock having already experienced the Dragon God, which is arguably worse.
And i'm saying this having really enjoyed DeS
>There's a big bad demon
A god actually
>Go kill all of its' lesser demons to lull it back to sleep
It's actually to call for King Allant's attention.
>He got summoned by a king who fell into depression
He was melancholic of the never ending suffering, he was already better because he believed that what he was doing was actually good.
>one game is shit, it means the other is not
Not what I meant, the guy who said those things was saying DeS was shit compared to the sequels, I'm saying they were all shit in their own way.
>Under 10 hours
>Dark Souls 2
Yeah sure if you're a speedrunning faggot or some shit. I played Demon's Souls legit taking my damn time it was under 10 hours.
>Infinite healing items
It was far worse in Demon's. You could farm insta heal grass easily. Hell I didn't farm and had sets of 99.
>Easy bosses in 2
Smelter Demon, Dark Lurker etc
Demon's Souls has the easiest bosses in the series, the fat shit that just sits there, a glob with littile globs, and just about everything else
Yes but what I'm saying is /v/ seems to have this stigma where if you claim you found anything even remotely challenging, there's at least one autismal /v/irgin who just HAS to reply with 'OMFG THAT WAS NOT HARD YOU FILTHY CASUAL CUNT KILL YOURSELF'.
And then they go on to call things they actually die to artificial difficulty instead of admitting that it was actually challenging.
>that fucking hype
>that being tempted to watch chinese dudes play it early
>that first time being invaded
>that first time you beat maneaters and asked people about their experience
Besides Shenmue or Yakuza threads, DeS threads were the best I've ever been in.
RIP Souls series
RIP Miyazaki - forver doomed to make generic third person action-RPGs
Dragon God at least made sense visually. Bed of Chaos is the exact same fight, but they had no way of communicating to the player they could hide behind the tiny-ass trees (and the floor won't fall out around them).
>tfw waiting for pic related to arrive in the mail from China
>tfw DeS pre-Euro/US release threads were 5 years ago
Christ, I'm pretty sure at least half of the current /v/ userbase didn't even know /v/ existed 5 years ago, or were probably 12 years old.
It's true, at least in BoC you can do it fairly quickly. The dragon god required you to break pillars forever and he hits way harder, killing you in one hit if you don't have the best equipment/overlevelled.
These are both examples of shitty "bosses" and are padding in the worst way. They've been doing this since DeS
Ok so I haven't been to many Bloodborne threads because I didn't want to deal with the shit flinging and dumbasses responding to it. I'm really curious as to why people think it's going to fail other than
I have high hopes for it considering it'll be published by a slightly less Jewish company and Miyazaki will have a direct hand in it.
I also bought a PS3 to play this game. It was superior to Dark Souls in every way, and the bossfights were simply better. DaS did a good job adding onto the combat with lunge attacks and jumping, but for some reason decided to do away with a mechanic as simple as being able to climb chest high walls.
Try not having shit taste and then playing the game again.
Nice boxart. I wonder if the artbook and guide are the same as the Euro black phantom edition
searching for cover is pretty obvious, and BoC doesn't hit nearly as hard as dragon god. The floor dropping was bullshit, even if it doesn't fall out from directly under you (at first).
They didn't communicate Dragon god has the memory of a goldfish and will forget you're there if he can't see you for 1 second. They were honestly both very poorly designed. Both bosses were padding because the games were rushed
You're seriously retarded.
I can do Dragon God in 5 minutes flat. You can one shot the broken pillars easily, either by having pwwt and picking up the dragon bone crusher or whatever it's called, or simply 2handing a large weapon like a bastard sword, you don't even need the stats to wield it properly.
I'm just saying, you've got a boss that tries to punch your shit, and huge-ass columns that separate you. You can actually look at the area and figure out what you need to do. They're both very much puzzle fights with simple solutions, but the BoC is such a design clusterfuck everyone just bolts their way through because there's no way they could know how it was actually designed to be done.
you wouldn't know how or if you're doing it right because they don't communicate how he operates. his memory problems, his 1HKO firebreath. If people had no problems wit Dragon god then theres no way they have problems with BoC
both of these bosses were shitty padding
Overall, I'd say dark is the better game , demons has the better atmosphere are art though.
Dark Souls II is like they took the worst of both games and mashed it together. I was thinking. It'd be the exact opposite too. Such a disappointment. Its also sad to think that dark souls 2 is better than almost every other game out there too, despite being so inferior to its predessecors.
Red is our special edition. It comes with an artbook, soundtrack, and 150 page guidebook
Is this that SM faggot who got blown the fuck out yesterday? jesus dude you are pathetic
>Its also sad to think that dark souls 2 is better than almost every other game out there too, despite being so inferior to its predessecors.
This is very much true. Most modern games are shit compared to DaS2 even though it's shitty compared to DeS and DaS. Hilarious.
>dark souls 2 is better than almost every other game out there
Try telling that to the Community. Their favorite passtime is bitching about it. We've all heard the complaints, we all know that you hate it. Whether or not I agree doesn't even matter, I'm just tired of all the complaining.
Well the thing about Bed of Chaos is that the cover makes no sense. You can stand right beside a tiny tree, and she'll swipe directly through you and the tree and not touch you. It's visual nonsense.
>actually well designed, finished areas
There were some well-designed corridors when they weren't completely black.
>NPCs which names you actually remember and cordially care about
Maiden in Black is the only memorable one if you're not pursuing magic.
>unforgettable bossfights with soulful music
Yeah, they sure were unforgettable for how disappointing every final area boss was. So were most of the bossfights, actually.
>Their favorite passtime is bitching about it.
Yeah we should totally allow shitty level design, copypasta'd enemies/bosses, endless mobs that replace unique enemies, one hit kill bosses, and a shitty ending.
As it's own game DaS2 would've been fine, but it committed a major sin by being an awful sequel to a good game. That's the reason so many people complain about it, because it wasn't just mediocre, it was also a massive disappointment to people who thought they'd enjoy it as much as they enjoy DeS and DaS.
>Maiden in Black is the only memorable one if you're not pursuing magic.
flipping after the patch, obviously
and yes you can. it takes way less time.
run to one side
run to the other side
run to the center
how hard is that? they're both shitty as fuck "bosses" but one is over faster
Yeah, and I get all that. I've heard it a million fucking times, and I'm sure From has as well. It's just a neverending shitstorm pouring out of the mouths of every fan, and it's the same complaints every time. I've heard it all. It's getting really fucking old. From knows they fucked up, so just don't play the game anymore.
DeS and DaS are flawed masterpieces. With more time for design, and a larger budget they would be games that would be remembered forever. As it stands know, many remember and know of them, but its more of a cult following and marketing ploy.
Dark souls 2 is just a flawed game. On its own its okay, but compared to its preqeuls and thus, what it should have been, its shit.
There's no reason for dark souls 2 to have the same faults as DeS/DaS.
It's a demon. The fact that miracles are also drawn from it is irrelevant. It feeds on souls = it's a demon, that's the logic we're presented in the game.
>It's actually to call for King Allant's attention.
No, it's so that the Old One tries to make you into its' officer. Killing true Allant is only the last step to that because he resides inside the old one. And you get his attention as soon you kill his doppleganger and the game goes on if you didn't kill all the other bosses.
>He was melancholic of the never ending suffering
That's pretty much what 'depression' means, anon.
The old Demons Souls threads were amazing, especially before guides were made and everyone was trying figure the game out. When people tried baiting out the community with "muh artifical diffucultly" or "Game is easy" they were either ignored or got told to fuck off.
After Dark Souls released, everyone stopped talking about Demons Soul's and talked about DaS. After the dust had settled, people tried to talk about DeS again, but due to the massive fanbase increase of Dark Souls, shit posting was inevitable and now we can't have a decent thread, this thread is proof enough.
I'm glad the souls games are popular, I just wish the community didn't go to shit.
through those little twigs yeah, but the BoC has a limited range and you can always see it coming, so you can get out of there in time. With magic shield he can't even touch you
not really, dark souls 2 is a game that stands out as leagues better than demons souls and superior to dark souls 1 in every way other than world connectivity and it not being the first game in the dark souls series.
Music: Dark souls 2
Game design: Dark souls 2
Combat: Dark souls 2
Weapon and armour variety: Dark souls 2
PvP: Dark souls 2
Enemy design and placement: Dark souls 2
Graphics: Dark souls 2
Optimisation: Dark souls 2
Magic system: Dark souls 2
NG+ mode: Dark souls 2
DLC: Dark souls 2
Area design: Dark souls 2
World design: Dark souls
Why do we hate dark souls 2 again?
>So does DeS. Your eyes are seeing what your mind wants to see.
Where? Honestly, where? Even items made from boss souls have bland as shit descriptions most of the time. Boletaria has absolutely no history about it, neither does any of the sections aside from Latria and that can be summed up in one sentence.
Seriously? At this point if you're just pretending to be retarded, you're a natural.
>they're both shitty as fuck "bosses" but one is over faster
Yes, and that one is Dragon God. BoC takes much longer because of all the backtracking, not to mention the hoping and praying you have to do that one of the constant sweeping attacks doesn't knock you into a hole, or that your jump is timed and positioned so that you land dead center on the vine or that you're not knocked off mid jump.
There is no such element of luck in the Dragon God fight. You can get through the entire fight without the Dragon God attacking once.
At this point I'm beginning to think you've never played DeS and are just shitposting.
Maybe you guys were expecting too much, then. I'm happy they didn't release a carbon copy of DeS or DaS1, but with updated graphics like everyone wanted. I'm happy they tried new things. They're experimenting in trying to make the series better as a whole. Even if you didn't like DaS2, it's still one step closer to that Souls masterpiece that we're all waiting for, just give From more time to work out what makes the series good or bad, and pray that Kadokawa doesn't fuck it up.
>oh fuck off false advertising is perfectly fine
I've been a fan of From Software inscr about 2005, and that made me lose all, and I mean all respect I had for them.
Playing through it now. Some of the bosses can be cheap at times, like the Maneaters, or that boss at the end of 2-2 who goes berserk at low health and doesn't give you a chance to get away.
The levels themselves are godlike, though. It oozes atmosphere. When a lot of enemies are after you, you truly feel set-upon, but no fight is ever hopeless.
i was wondering if its worth to buy a ps3 just to play demon souls since i enjoyed dark souls and wanted to try the first one in the franchise also is it availebel in ps store since my local game(stop) dont have it
I think I need a little guidance
>got all the way to the boss in 1-2
>go up and kill all the archers first
>go down to the boss
>I only do 6 damage each hit
>try the mine area
>see that it takes me 15 hits to kill each regular enemy and assume I didnt go to the right place
>try the "blighttown" area
>actually get pretty far but die in that area where you have to either go down a letter or jump down through the roof, and there are like 5 enemies down there
>used all my poison curing items in the process so would never be able to get that far again
Are one of the 2 areas I haven't tried yet easier?
Tower Knight is easy, though. Don't run away from his sheild bashing, run AT him and cut his legs until he falls down.
Or just cheese him with magic or something
World 3 is difficult if unprepared, have some ranged weapon
World 4 has ROLLING SKELLINGTONS, make of that what you will.
Well, I only tried once and I think I need a better weapon before I can fight him. I don't remember which weapon I'm using but it's a sword and I've been pumping points into strength and dex so I thought I'd be doing more damage
The 1-2 boss, after you kill the archers you attack his feat, eventually he falls over and you can hit the head for good damage.
In World 2 you have to use piecing weapons against the miners, slashing weapons have little effect.
World 5 is the last area you want to try, after you complete world 1-2, try world 2 when you get a piercing weapon.
World 3 and 4 are the next places to go.
>World 5 is the last area you want to try, after you complete world 1-2, try world 2 when you get a piercing weapon.
Shit advice, enjoy being overlevelled and killing everything in 1 hit
that's bullshit, your argument is flawed as fuck. The only way you can get DG to not attack at ALL is knowing exactly how to do the fight. If you go into the fight with the same amount of experience you can do BoC way faster, especially if you have magic shield, which renders all of his attacks useless. and you don't even have to jump onto the tree you can just walk up to it and fall onto it. It's way faster.
Granted the bonfire is way too far away, but if you know what youre doing it's not a problem, just like if you know what youre doing the DG isn't a problem.
the main point is that both of these bosses ARE shitty (im not defending BoC and certainly not DG) and that From can't finish a game to save their lives
>And you get his attention as soon you kill his doppleganger and the game goes on if you didn't kill all the other bosses.
What? I'm sure you have to kill the rest of the archdemons (The last boss of each level) to meet the real Allant.
OK, thanks you guys. I won't stay in the thread any longer because I don't want to get too much help. I've beaten DaS and DaS2 and am really enjoying DeS so far from what I've played. I was playing 1-2 during the middle of the knight, and hiding from a dragon shooting flames everywhere had me really immersed in the game.
I don't really see how game design can be better, when mechanics is the games are always at odds with one another. PvP isn't better because from killed it to prevent thinking. The areas are more straight forward, more bonfires are available, and some decisions are just stupid (a wall seperating the player in iron keep to belfry).
Dark souls 2 was a huge step down. Only things it does better are the vast selection of weapons and armor, but because magic is essentially required for PvP and their is always a "best" weapon, its only better from a fashion standpoint.
I don't know then, Darks Souls wasn't hard, the only hard boss fight was O&S, the rest were piss easy and you had many Vanguard clones you had to fight.
Also the bonfire system made the game way less frustrating, you always got healing items when you died, you never needed more then 5 flasks before you ran into another bonfire and never needed more then 10 to complete an entire area and defeat the boss.
Not counting Poise made defense sets viable, the only defensive set in Demons Souls was the blessed sets, and they were more recover hp oriented then actually blocking hits oriented.
>expecting too much
I expected the absolute best aspect of the previous games melded into one. I expected the best souls game, and possibly best game, ever
I didn't expect from to kill PvP, focus even more on YOU DIED LOL, completely destroying how the world was built and connected, and I didn't expect from to not fix any issues.
Yeah, it was a real good dungeon crawl, I got lost often for retarded reasons in the corridors since I was playing with brightness 0 for extra sketch factor. I remember the frist time I heard the singing merchant I shit my pants and quit for the day. Good times
The swamp area is the second part.
It's a good idea to clear the first level of each world before starting the second tier, except 1-2 since it's piss easy. Helps keep the difficulty curve interesting.
>mfw dark souls 2 is by far the best game in the series
>mfw the music is by FAR the most thematically fitting of the series and actually represents boss movements and tactics incredibly well
>mfw the level design is condensed with fun and consistent enemy placement
>mfw the pvp isn't barren and desolate because soul memory removes wooden level restrictions and you can invade hollows now
>mfw the weapon design, armour design and relative abundance of said things is the most consistent of the series in quality throughout the game
>mfw the atmospheric value of areas such as drangleic castle, shrine of amana and undead crypt including the other varieties of areas we were given, were simply outstanding for the relative problem from software have of succesfully putting atmospheric experience in their game design.
>mfw the bosses are the fairest and least mechanically bugged in the series as of yet.
>mfw the game offers the biggest quality of any vanilla souls title so far
>mfw the dlc for this game is coming out as post game completion created content, unlike artorias of the abyss which was ripped from pre-development
>mfw the only reason there is a massive wankforce is because people are having the same transition from demons souls whereby they realise just how uncreative from software are with their sequels and extended series
>mfw people might ACTUALLY think that demons souls is an original game
>mfw people are actually delusional enough to claim dark souls 1 is a better game than dark souls 2.
>mfw people actually claim that demons souls is anything other than the less realised bland skeleton the future souls games massively improved upon thematically.
I never ever had to worry about healing in DeS because I died in 1-4 a bunch of times and collected a metric fuckton of best grass in the process. So I was always at full HP and healing in DeS takes miliseconds compared to chugging Estus.
The only problem I ever had in DeS after figuring out that my armor is bloody useless was False King Allant, it was the only boss that made me lose Stones of E. Eyes and I had to fight him in soul form.
Bonfire system I can't argue against, but if you don't count shortcuts I am pretty positive that any bonfire<->bonfire path is longer than most DeS stages.
I'm actually talking about this. A lot of people don't realize that if you stand by these trees along the route, you will not take damage. That's why the ground never breaks out around them, they were meant to be a safe spot just like the Dragon God. Her swipes will literally go through your body and the tree, completely missing you, even if you're standing on the wrong side. The whole fight was designed to be just like the Dragon God. Run to a column, hide, watch where the ground falls out, run to the next between her attacks. Her design has no way to illustrate that to the player though. The room's safe spots make no sense visually, and it was probably unfixable without redesigning the boss completely, so we ended up with the compromise we have now.
I'm not saying the boss is hard, I'm just saying it was originally a puzzle fight like the Dragon God but they could never figure out a way to convey it to the player.
tfw never knew about the tower knight cheese until a month ago
Every place aside from Stonefang Mine every place have a detailed lore behind it.
Boletaria is a the main city and castle of the kingdom. The Kingdom was once privileged to house it's finest heroes: Alfred, the Knight of the Tower; Metas, the Knight of the Lance, and Long Bow Oolan, who commanded a legion of archers. Their physical bodies were twisted and distorted into demonic entities while their souls remained to guard the pathway leading to the False King.
Stonefang Tunnel was an excavation site under the control of King Allant. The miners who devoted their lives to the soldiers of Boletaria remained stubborn in their fruitless efforts to support the king, and rather than attempt to flee when the fog approached, they remained behind. Now devoid of sentience and soul, they mindlessly continue to chisel away at the tunnels. The caves create a maze-like system beneath the excavation ground worthy of its name “The Tunnel City.” Rumors of the tunnels sitting on the shrine of an ancient dragon are abound; the ancestors of the excavators were said to have worshipped and revered the dragon as a god. At its core sits a temple devoted to a fire demon whose flames are said to be the very essence from which blacksmithing was begun.
It still baffles me that people honestly, truly believe that DAS2 is the worst game ever. It certainly isn't the worst game From has put out. People treat them as messiah's but they've put out more stinkers than they have gems. Dark Souls 2 had better online, a better engine, better gameplay, and better menus and general quality-of-life and replayability. The ONLY issue it has is that its lore is kind of shit.
>Her swipes will literally go through your body and the tree, completely missing you, even if you're standing on the wrong side.
That's utterly retarded if true. I have to test this.
Actually, it does.
The only reason I can imagine you'd think otherwise is if you'd never played DeS.
I can see that. I never used those safe spots, even on my first playthrough because the obvious thing to most people (i think) is to follow the floor root there since the floor to the right is falling away. I just liked how you could clearly see BoC attacks so you could respond by dodging, blocking etc. with DG the camera was ridiculous and all his attacks were basically unblockable (i don't know if it's possible to block his fist smash, i always just got wrecked by it).
From isn't good at puzzle bosses.
The Tower of Latria was a shrine devoted to the Ivory Queen in the lands neighboring Boletaria. With her husband, Latria ruled her kingdom - encompassing a penitentiary, a church, and the great tower itself - to the great adoration and respect of her people. Latria banished her husband from the lands for unknown reasons, and when the fog bathed the kingdom, Latria’s husband found himself filled with a terrible and vengeful lust. He soon discovered the source of his mad desires - a beautiful and flowing golden garb that seemed to beckon his name. When he put the robe on, a rage filled within him. The old man returned and ordered his wife exiled from her own kingdom and her family imprisoned in the cells Latria formerly governed. In each cell block, the old man commanded inhuman guards to keep watch over the tortured prisoners for eternity. He oversaw the construction of an idol made in his wife’s image to give false hope to the inmates, and with the masses of flesh accumulated throughout the years, the old man has begun creating his own army of demons, among them the ravenous Man Eaters. Suspended from the middle of the tower is a large, mechanical heart, constructed in an effort to help maintain the old man’s own existence. The souls of the damned inside of the prison are used as life-giving sustenance to keep the heart beating. In time, the old man’s body began to whither and decay, and the golden garb - the true source of the old man’s demonic rage - beckoned a new host. With the old man rid of the robe’s life-force, he breathed his last gasp of air.
Found a random video where the guy does it.
He stands behind the tree, but you can also stand to the left or right of it. Probably not the front, but I've never tried.
The Shrine of Storms was an isolated land where pagans would go to worship the god of Storms, and where legends of fallen heroes were mourned. The colorless fog released a flood of souls from the many catacombs, which soon found hosts in the skeletal remains littered across the island. Tales of great pagan deities and Boletarian folklore gave birth to reality as the Shrine is now home to fiction-made-flesh. Adjudicator, the great Judge of the Deceased, awaits the passing of a new hero to begin the process of purification before the soul is given up as a sacrifice to the great Storm King, a mighty beast that soars high above the island’s ancestral burial ground. The Storm King himself is merely the embodiment of the ideas of an ancient pagan civilization, given corporeal form by the colorless fog. Deep inside the ruins of the Shrine of Storms is a burial ground devoted to the legend of a great and nameless Hero who now blindly continues his lust for power and fame, he as well a legend of a distant generation perpetuated by the pagan rituals
Having a shit ton of grass was only useful in pvp, you shouldn't need that much to complete a area. The grass system only gets broken when you are able to buy full moon grass from Patches(assuming you keep him alive), which that is near the endgame when you can purchase it from him.
Demons Souls had few tough boss fights, but it in my honest opinion it had the most interesting.
I'd argue against that, Dark Souls had Bonfires all over the place, I think the longest bonfire to bonfire path was the last part of Sens Fortress.
Don't take this as me not liking Dark Souls, I loved the game, but the souls games were never really difficult after you get passed the fact the games don't hold your hand.
The Valley of Defilement is a wretched home for the abused and neglected citizens of Boletaria. A dumping ground for the Kingdom’s unholy, the Valley became notorious as a place where one could leave the fetus of an unwanted child to rot in the festering swamps. Hearing of the Valley’s dreadful circumstance, the Sixth Saint Astraea took it upon herself and, along with her companions, The Holy Knight Lizaia, The Moonlight Knight Bito, and Garl Vinland, traveled there in hopes of freeing the depraved souls consumed by the fog. The mindless drones that now remain in the Valley will violently attack any who threaten them in hopes of claiming souls to offer up to the great Maiden who showed them compassion. In the deepest pits of the Valley are born two vile demons out of the putrilage and plague that lingers in the deadly bog. It is said that Astraea pledged herself to the will of a Demon’s Soul to help ease the pain of the suffering, rather than to accept the aid of a cruel God who would allow such a place to exist.
The Archstone of the Giants actually had a lore too. The Northern Lands were once home to the race of mighty giants. They lived in relative peace with the rest of Boletaria, until the thick, colorless fog swept in and blanketed their domain. The Northern Lands were the first to succumb to the spread of Demons, and in an effort to contain the madness, Boletaria sent hundreds of thousands of its finest knights to the great kingdom to fend off the threat. The effort was for naught, and the Archstone connecting to this land was later destroyed as a last-ditch attempt to contain the chaos. It did not succeed.
I'm just going to stop arguing since your opinion won't change. How about we say it takes some people longer to kill one over the other and compromise like the mature adults that we are.
Demon's Souls on the whole had the better boss music in my opinion, it was really refreshing to play it after DaS and DaS2 and not having to listen to people chanting every time except for 1 or 2 bosses where it actually fit.
Another fag here
It could be argued any way, because BoC is dead after three hits and DG has to be finished and fights back a bit after nailing him twice.
DG was certainly much less of a hassle, though, Fuck sweeping attacks catching me mid-jump and pushing aside.
>you shouldn't need that much to complete a area
It certainly didn't hurt.
>The grass system only gets broken when you are able to buy full moon grass from Patches(assuming you keep him alive), which that is near the endgame when you can purchase it from him.
Nah, stuffing your face full of the slightly brown grass usually healed 3/4 of my HP and it was more than enough.
>I'd argue against that, Dark Souls had Bonfires all over the place, I think the longest bonfire to bonfire path was the last part of Sens Fortress.
Unless we get some data on that the argument is pointless, then. I felt one way, I fel the other.
>Don't take this as me not liking Dark Souls, I loved the game, but the souls games were never really difficult after you get passed the fact the games don't hold your hand.
No big deal, as I said, I just feel the absolute opposite. It may just be the fact that DaS didn't pull any punches because devs didn't have to worry "Gee, what if someone goes there in soul form and has only 1/2 HP?" all the time. That's at least the feeling I got.
>The Northern Lands were the first to succumb to the spread of Demons, and in an effort to contain the madness, Boletaria sent hundreds of thousands of its finest knights to the great kingdom to fend off the threat. The effort was for naught, and the Archstone connecting to this land was later destroyed as a last-ditch attempt to contain the chaos. It did not succeed.
It was the world where the Old One first physically invaded, after spreading the word, the people of the 6th arch stone destroyed the arch stone to slow the Old One's madness from spreading.
Demon's Souls had better level design, itemization and character design than either of its predecessors. It also had creative ideas like world tendency which was only hated on by completionist autists.
Unfortunately, the bosses were too damn easy and build balance was abysmal. The community was hardly better, either. Especially with bullshit like Scraping Spear and the like.
And hardly any of these come up in the game in any form
refering to all your posts, VoD actually got fleshed out thanks to Maiden and the merchantis what my problem is. The world feels extremely bare. Not to mention they all feel like disconnected from each other.
>tfw creating your character 15 times or so just to beat the first boss
> It also had creative ideas like world tendency which was only hated on by completionist autists.
It was creative but it didn't work, making it a shitty feature.
You mean King's Field?
>situations that become embarassingly easy after the first time
>situations that still keep you on your toes
Why does it take so long for you character in DaS and DaS2 to walk through the fog gates?
You walk through them very quickly in DeS, but in DaS it leaves you to get back stabbed by enemies and players easily.
I have no interest in picking up Dark Souls 2 so I can really sympathise with people who want to talk about DeS
I picked up Dark Souls on sale in January thinking that I had put it off for long enough, I love the game but no one wants to talk about it anymore.
Getting 5 - 10 free flasks also didn't hurt when you needed healing. Not counting in Demons Souls when you died you only had half health, decreasing the effectiveness of healing item. You also had the humanity that could be farmed from rats that full healed you. Then you had armor that actually did things, you shouldn't be dieing a lot in Dark Souls.
I'm not the one who brought up the whole "bonfire placement was longer then the entire levels of demons souls" argument.
Yes I did, a few years back. Most of Boletaria's backstory is fleshed out thanks to Ostrava, Latria gets bits here and there, especially the story about Old Monk and his robe, VoD is pretty simple and told you upfront. Everything else I never encountered.
>Playing any of the souls games
>Not picking deprived for every single game
In Demon's Souls, they were basically there for suspense. You never knew if a boss was behind it, or if it would be just more of the level. There are a ton of pretty useless fog gates in the game. With Dark Souls, they went to pretty much just using them for gating bosses, and since getting to the boss kicks out invaders, it was probably decided that it was more balanced to actually give enemies/players the opportunity to knock you out of it.
>creating the same character every game
>making the same character rule the world in every game
For what purpose? That's like, always creating some strong brute with nothing but strength wielding a claymore, but he has no intelligence role playing wise.
>Everything else I never encountered =/= Not in there
Weapons descriptions like Istarelle and Moonlight Sword explain that about characters like Holy Knight Lizaia, and Bito respectively. The royal guard is right in your face in 1-4. You should play it again.
>You never knew if a boss was behind it, or if it would be just more of the level.
But the fog walls with a boss behind them were a slightly different colour to the ones without, they were grey whereas the ones that didn't had a slight greenish tinge to them.
You pick it because it starts you off at soul level 1 autist, allowing you to have complete freedom with your build.
>there are still people who think DaS2 is acceptable
DaS2 is not just a "disappointment" or "failed to live up to it's predecessors", it's actually a fucking horrible game. The director took a bunch of stuff out of the previous games but had no idea whatsoever about how to implement them. In Dark Souls the final areas were shit but it was still bearable to play because the core mechanics are so near-perfect, in Dark Souls 2 it's basically the opposite. Even if it had the most beautifully designed stages and encounters ever, it would still be fucking shit to play because of its disgusting gameplay.
They took poise from DaS but have absolutely no idea how it actually works, meaning you end up being somewhere between DeS and DaS where you ALWAYS get staggered by enemy's attacks, whereas only some of your attacks will break enemy poise based on what the game feels like at the time. At least in DeS you know that every attack is going to stagger anything it hits.
The enemies being able to rotate on the spot means that they are always guaranteed to hit the spot you're standing in, and because blocking, rolling, and parrying are all nerfed it means you have less tools to deal with it, a design decision that was made for the sake of killing the player more often to make the game seem "harder", the infinite enemy stamina also plays into this.
Then you have weapon degradation, in the previous games you would have to play for several hours straight to get your weapon at risk, in DaS2 it takes about 25 hits to break your weapon completely. This is just to force you to take breaks between exploration so you can rest and reset the enemies in the area, again just to make the game "harder".
In the previous games you had two or three different types of roll which had different amounts of i-frames, meaning you had to choose between defence or being invincible during your roll. Because DaS2 lets you weigh anywhere up to 70% without any negatives, there's no reason not to wear armor. But there's also no working poise, so there's no real reason to wear armor either. In other words, armor is COMPLETELY cosmetic with no downsides to either wearing it or not wearing it (assuming you stay under 70% weight).
>Music: Dark souls 2
Dark Souls 1 and DeS had way more memorable tracks. All DaS2 has is Majula.
>Game design: Dark souls 2
Nope, because you're literally teleporting to areas that make no sense geographically. DaS had a unique interconnected world that made sense.
>Weapon and armour variety: Dark souls 2
Nearly every weapon in DaS was unique, now weapons are almost as samey as DeS with the excuse of the powerstance mechanic.
>PvP: Dark souls 2
Demon's Souls didn't have broken ass hitboxes or backstab windows
>Graphics: Dark souls 2
Nah, DaS looks better on console and pc.
>Optimisation: Dark souls 2
I'm not sure what you're referring to so no comment.
>Magic system: Dark souls 2
I concede to this but it could have been better. You could aim in the beta and do heavy attacks.
>NG+ mode: Dark souls 2
sure, but I think World Tendency added more content.
>DLC: Dark souls 2
the one dlc we've gotten doesn't match AoTA, in value. All three won't match it in value or price because DaS2 has shit lore that no one gives a shit about.
>Area design: Dark souls 2
Nah, Demon's Souls.
>World design: Dark souls
That's dumb, though, because the other classes give you the stats you'd want your character to have anyway.
Deprived starts you off at level 1 with 6 stats in every category.
A knight on the other hand, will start you off at around level 10, with the proper stats a knight would have.
Basically, you'd have 9 more points in different areas than deprived.
Deprived is just a caveman and it's a way to make you think you're in control, when you're not.
in the only game that matters
Demons souls is a boring unfinished, uninspired kings field derivative with a less imaginative director who didn't really know what he was doing.
Dark souls 2 was somewhat more realised and interesting, but still lacked focus and was generally uninteresting due to a huge rushed schedule.
Dark souls 2 is a polished, quality game that bought back core values of what makes games like this truly special, and I for one congratulate the team and Naotoshi Zin on accomplishing that.
In all of the games, rings were a way of drastically changing how your character plays. In DeS you had one slot in soul form and two in body, in DaS you had two, and in DaS2 you get three. Three slots is too many in my opinion but that's subjective. The fact that many of the rings in DaS have enhanced versions means that rings just end up being character upgrades instead of game-changing modifications to your playstyle, and the way that many of the rings are highly situational, such as only being useful when trying to connect to a specific person online, means you just swap them whenever you need them instead of making them part of your build. In DeS there was still stuff like the fire resistance ring that works in a similar way, but DaS2 takes it way overboard. Overall DaS did this best.
Yet another thing that DaS2 fucks up is the "agility" stat, where you are essentially forced to put a significant number of levels into attunement or adaptability so that you can get back the i-frames that you SHOULD get from light-rolling. In other words the game intentionally nerfs your abilities from the start and makes you waste your time getting them back up to scratch. This was implemented to replace useless stats like resistance, but they should have either gone back to "luck" or just got rid of it altogether. It's a waste of time.
You are a fucking idiot and don't understand the souls game if you think that's true. You have no fucking clue what builds are, and how having a buff on your weapon is essential.
>Then you have weapon degradation, in the previous games you would have to play for several hours straight to get your weapon at risk,
Unless you were fighting against a guy with a scraping spear, in which case all your shit breaks faster than anything in DaS2.
You're acting like a complete jerk.
First you call me an autist because you want to correct me on deprived being level 1, which I already knew. Then you want to call me a retard because you play like an actual autist making a "perfect" build at a "perfect" soul level.
Shrine of Storms is the best by far. I loved going there for the first time and getting completely wrecked by the first skeleton, it really made it all the more satisfying once you figured out a good tactic to deal with them.
And then you meet their golden counterparts.
Although I will admit that manta rays are annoying little shits. I still agree that the aesthetics are awesome. I always get a Highlander vibe when I enter.
Latria is definitely second, though, then Boletarian Palace. Stonefang is pretty alright, but I couldn't care for Valley of Defilement much at all.
A role playing aspect with your character makes your character more human, and seems a lot more controlled than making a "perfect" build only for pvp.
Why don't you just make your own character fixing the world in their own way instead of looking up guides that other players have created?
I've just written out huge paragraphs explaining in objective terms why DaS2 is shit. Please notice that I didn't say anything about graphics, level design, boss design, multiplayer, the people that worked on it, or anything else. I only mentioned aspects of the core gameplay, something that anyone who has played the games should be able to objectively refute if they have an actual point to make other than "please stop bullying me, I bought Dark Souls 2 as my first game because it makes me more hardcore than the other kids on the playground".
fuck, that nigger gets 5k a fucking month for the shit he's doing? he averages a video like every one and a half weeks, and then it's a 10 minute long video with fucking LESS EFFORT THAN HIS OLD PREPARE TO CRY VIDEOS, and just repeating things he read on a forum somewhere.
Why would making a SL1 character mean I use guides? Not everyone is as bad as you, mostly anyone who PVEs or PVPs will pick deprived because most of the time there a points in things that they don't want so SL1 is the best for a clean slate. That 9 points can be the difference from a 120 build, or a 129 build.
I'm sorry for upsetting you, anon. I just wanted you to make a smart character instead of a brute.
Even if you pick deprived in the beginning, no matter what armor you give your character later on, deep down, he's still a caveman.
This is actually a meta-thread about how the new generation of "souls fans" are retard shitposters, you can see it everywhere if you scroll up a bit. In any case you're just deflecting my argument because you don't want to address any points about how DaS2 is a piece of shit, and trying to take the moral high ground by claiming my posts are off-topic is not going to work.
Not him. But I also enjoyed it.
Still had a strange feeling of dissapointment while playing it, somehow I just dont like the world in DaS2.
Cant really describe the feeling. Anyone else feels the same? It was a great game, but something was just not right about it...
I had a shield and winged spear, so I just took the first roll with my shield up and R1'd to interrupt every attack they attempted while keeping my shield up just in case.
I was pumping endurance and dexterity, though, so I usually didn't have to worry about running out of stamina before they died. Other than that, it's just a matter of knowing where they are so you don't accidentally aggro more than one at a time.
Glad to see you giving up and posting insanely obvious "bait" in an effort to save face. I'm sure you were only pretending in your previous posts as well. Here's the response you're so desperate for.
I like Demon's Souls the best because it is more similar to King's Field and Shadow Tower. Dark Souls was great too, although I was disappointed in how the setting and such felt more like generic fantasy. Dark Souls 2 was meh, the only really nice positives in my mind were some of the items like the vanquisher's seal.
I also used a winged spear.
The best way I found against the skeletons was to use a spiked mace.
Seriously, get a spiked mace and upgrade it. I was fucking wrecking those silver skeletons on the ledge after the grim reaper.
Even those fucking gold skeletons didn't stand a chance, and I was even given a great chance to knock them off the cliff.
Get a spiked mace and upgrade it.
I got the sense after beating DaS1 that I had just completed a long and memorable journey, while DaS2 just felt like another game I had beaten. I'm not sure why.
Demon's Souls gave me a similar feeling despite being much shorter.
Dark souls 2 is the best in the series though anon, the designers were the most experienced in the fantasy setting and the lead designer integrated kings field influences incredibly well.
I'm sorry that you prefer inferior products.
They were never supposed to be about extreme difficulty. That shit only started with the whole "prepare to die" thing Bamco did, and was furthered by their Dark Souls 2 advertising.
>tfw he was worried sick about you
It had a reputation of being hard because at that time most people were used to increasingly casual games. It wasn't designed with the intention of being hard, and really wasn't advertised that way like DaS and DaS 2 were.
Nah, pal. Shit started way back on DeS when it somehow started to appeal to larger masses of casuals. Once they figured it was considerably harder than their regular games. They spread it.