>finally decide to play Mother 3 for the first time after

THE GOOD NEWS IS
I FOUND THIS AWESOME SKATEBOARD

Just wait til get to the next chapter. Or the next one, or the one after that. The emotional ride never ends

Don't worry: it's even more emotional later.

>>254811267
It sort of stops and goes starting with Chapter 3 on until the very end.

>>254811024
get ready for a ride anon

Also, as long as you play a bit of attention you'll realize how much the game wants you to know the plot twist at the end. It's better that way, trust me.

>>254811758
>you'll realize how much the game wants you to know the plot twist at the end
The Masked Man being Claus? Because I already know that one.

I wish retards would stop praising the game solely for MUH FEELZ and LOL TRAPS

oh wait, those are the only redeeming qualities this game has

>>254811908
Yep, that one. It doesn't ruin anything knowing it, however.

>>254812105
I find it hard to believe some people can't figure out that plot twist seconds after they first see the masked man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZN02zPNirY

Best music or best music? Aside of Love Theme, obviously.

I cry evrytiem ;_;

>>254812353
A friend didn't figure it out even after the part in which Lucas dresses as him and everyone thinks you're the commander. Low span of attention I guess.

Daily reminder there will be an official localization announced within the next few days

>>254812908
Source? Don't bullshit me anon please ;_;

>>254812951
The 27th is Mother's 25th anniversary.

The Treehouse continues through then.

>>254812567

I was surprised to hear this on GBA.

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>>254812908

Yeah, sure.

>>254811024
Is this the best game from the last 10 years? I think its a strong contender with all the crap coming out lately.

>>254812045
Stop shitposting, this game has a godlike ost

>>254812045
>LOL TRAPS

Huh?

>>254812567
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBGILqp6kQs
This game had the best soundtrack of all the GBA games.

>>254812567
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4EATZ-tNPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI3iJ_J-Sa8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SEPT6eDAb4

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>>254813531
Probably these guys

>>254812567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA0UC3D_Zoo
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmobfd3hiUk

I hope you played Mother 2/Earthbound.

>>254814848
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA0UC3D_Zoo
Where does this one play? I've played through this game several times and I've never heard it.

>>254815081

On the jukebox in that bar.

>>254815161
You could actually use the jukebox? Huh.

Just wait until you get to chapter 6

>>254815313
Yeah, I didn't realize until I listened to the ost as well. The songs are worth checking out too.

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>mfw I realized Osohe was queen Mary's castle and the nowhere islands are actually magicant

>>254813360
Depends on what you like. Objectively it's far from it.

>>254811024
No crying until the end, anon.

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>mfw all the clues that point to Fassad being the last magypsy
>mfw that mouse you meet in his room

>>254811024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8HhfZW_9D0

>>254816751
Which mouse? What did he say?

>>254816851
He says something about for how much of a prick he is, he was really kind to the mouse.

Also Fassad and Interpreter's theme are really similar to the Magypsy one

>>254816416
No fuckin way
No way it goes that deep
does it?

>>254816817
Definitely a better marketing idea than the one NOA had for Earthbound.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5D8uoNada8

Best track

>>254817138
yeah, right, and the room was full of trumpets and bananas. Couldn't remember it. Didn't notice about the theme songs, though, thanks.

>>254816817
420 blaze it

>>254816416
I doubt it, the only reference to Mother 1 in Earthbound were the birdmen, Magicant and the whole gyg and melodies stuff.
>tfw we will never know what caused all the shit to go down
>we will never know what happens next

>>254812045
the combat is pretty tits

Daily reminder that Japan now thinks this is shitty melodramatic garbage that tries too hard to be dark and tragic, and can't believe America wants it.

>>254816751
The music in Fassad's house is the same as all the other Magypsies, except one thing
There are no horns playing

>>254818053
daily reminder that japan is for fags

>>254817857
>tfw we will never know what caused all the shit to go down

Ninten and Ness pretty much did all for nothing, since their world went to shit. I think it's hinted in the game that the human race ruined it with its own hands. One of the themes of the game is the respect of the nature and the wrong use of technology, after all.

>>254817857
Mother was better than Earthbound. I hope everyone knows this, and we just don't talk about it because it's obvious.

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>>254818268
Holy fuck I didn't notice that.

>>254818268
I can't find his house theme. Link please?

>>254818420
Earthbound had better enemy encounters though, since you could dodge them.
Mother was straight up random, and Itoi said that by the end of it, they just wanted to ship the game, so they fucked up the endgame area's balance, that's why Mt.Itoi is hard.

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>mfw Porky's fate

>>254818420
mother 1 aka grindfest r us
>better than a pile of puke

>>254818053

They still love Mother 3 since it's the best game.

Thing is, NoA is tired of hearing about it's localization. It's Nintendo's own Vesperia (PS3)

Ness is Flint
Paula is Hinawa
Jeff is Dr. Andonuts
Poo got obliterated with the old world

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>>254818420
>Mother was better than Earthbound.
2 > 1 > 3

>>254818596
he got what he wanted

>>254818628

http://earthboundcentral.com/2013/04/mother-3-and-japanese-fans-revisited/

>>254816580

There's that fuckin' word again

>>254818584
A fair point. And the dungeons are atrociously confusing.

But the music is the best in the series, and the story has a charm that even the sequels, with their more indepth tales, couldn't touch.

>dat Teddy
>dat Lloyd
>dat dancing
>dat every song in the soundtrack being fucking perfect

>>254818617
>better than a pile of puke
>Earthbound literally features piles of puke

>>254818053
Reminder that the reason this game is so popular in the West is because of it's fantastic translation job. If it was translated by Nintendo and released the West it would be nowhere near as successful.

>>254818596

>yfw the capsule was meant to represent a womb

>>254811024
Get ready for some crazy shit. Play the damn game before you get spoiled.

>>254818617
sounds like you need to git gud

>>254818967
OH BOY HERE WE GO

>>254818753
>3 comments are outright negative

Why is that considered a "global" opinion of the Japanese? The series isn't popular, sure, but hated?

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>>254818853
>dat dancing.

>>254818967
>Implying Mother 3 and HotD: Overkill have the same plot

>>254818648

They said the people of the white ship kept their same names.

Ness is the hotdog vender.

>>254818617
play it with easy ring, I know it's casual but it does improve it

So, Mother 4. (the fangame)

How do you all feel about it?

I was cynical and kinda' against it at first, but it really does look like they've put a lot of work into it. I'm cautiously optimistic right now.

>>254818648
Ness is the steak salesman.

>>254817857
and the sleeping dragons.

>>254818648
You are dumb

>>254818853
The delivery of the story was kinda effy though. I mean it got a lot of exposition in the beginning, untill you go to magicant and learn about the melodies. Then durning your Melodies Quest, nothing reminds you of the whole alien thing, it kicks back in the Lab where you activate EVE though, but like, for the half of the game, the Main Story just isn't there, instead you get smaller stories, like the Haunted house, the Tank, etc.

>>254819157

I was so satisfied with Mother 3's ending that I don't want it considered canon. I don't care if it happens

>>254818495
>>254818540
Couldn't find the music that plays in his house in New Pork City, but here's something else which is really cool about Fassad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0xaZxMZGUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAWlrj-N7RE
Listen to these one after another and it'll click.

>>254819157
I'm not going to play it myself, and I really wish that they had just called like "Mother: The Fan Project" or something, calling it Mother 4 is just wrong

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>>254819013
bitch

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>>254819338

>>254818420

It literally, objectively, empirically, definitely isn't.

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>>254819157
If it's good, it'll be neat; if it's bad, it'll still be neat, so I can't lose.

>>254819164
>>254819113
Okay, but what about Dr. Andonuts? How can the original one still be alive after so much time? Besides he feels like a different person. I bet it's actually Jeff.

>>254819620
Did you miss the part where Porky's grabbing people out of various timepoints? It's the original Dr. Andonuts

>>254812045
Nigga its good because of the narrative, decent combat system for what it is, music, and overall flow. Though the feels are the icing.

>>254819420
How did I only just now get the joke of "fly honey"?

>>254819105
Great, now I'll be thinking about Porky trying to climb into his obese mother's snatch for a while.

>>254819267
Well that was the point, though. The main story did its thing, and the smaller stories spiced the game up nicely as you played it. Considering how little text is in the game it gave us a lot of memorable moments and characters, and it never felt like the story was overbearing. Hell Teddy is only in the game for the last eighth of it, but he still manages to be a character you care about when he dies helping you out. It's pretty remarkable, especially considering the limitations of the time and console.

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>>254819338
>tfw they started disappearing one by one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqCbScmbVOo
Even if they were a bit eccentric, it was sad seeing them go.

>>254819727
For real? Looks like I did miss it. At the least I don't remember it in the slightest.

>>254819727
I may be wrong, but doesn't M3 Andonuts even directly reference his son?

>>254819589

Japan finally found out it existed?

>>254819582
Earthbound though goofy could take the place of charming. It was wrong. If there was a remake of the original that used the Mother 3 games systems and nothing else, it would be the best in the series.

>>254812908
What is the point?
The fan translation is actually pretty good. It is gonna be hard to top that.

>>254820008
It was part of Leder's speech, if I'm not mistaken.

>>254819141
This.

With the easy ring that reduces the tediousness of grinding not the actual difficulty itself, Mother 1 is exponentially better than Earthbound.

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>>254819824
I didn't either.

>>254820150
Oh bugger, I don't even remember who Leder is? Is it the really tall guy?

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>>254811024
I hope you're ready for the ride anon.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ub706iXHQ

>>254820515
Yep, the one who gives you a 10mins+ speech near the end of the game. He explains errthing that has happened before MOTHER 3.

>>254820515
Yeah - he has a really long "wall of text"esque speech in the New Pork City sewers. I have a hard time remembering it all myself.

>>254820626
First one to post about MUH DRAGONS is getting assraped tonight.

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You have no idea what you're getting yourself into man

See you back when you beat the game and post with the same picture so i know it was you faggot

the only good thing about losing your hair is that you can eventually cosplay flint

>>254811024
>there are more people on /v/ who played Mother 3 as kids instead of Earthbound

Jesus Christ.

Mother 3 was an okay game, but it was an AWFUL Mother game. The fan translation was irredeemable.

>>254819338

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locrian_mode

>>254820973
>implying any of us are manly enough to cosplay Flint

>>254821148
what is a mother game supposed to be?
kids fucking bitches?

>>254811024
>all that emotion purely shown through unique sprite frames
so delicious

>>254821148
How so? It's translation was better than EarthBound's official translation. What makes it so bad?

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>>254820626
I didn't know I still got this saved.

>>254821148
You could have made an argument argument until "The fan translation was irredeemable."

You can say what you want about the game, but the fan translation is professional quality. Probably better than professional quality, to be honest.

>>254821440
>argument argument
oops

You could have made an argument until you said "The fan translation was irredeemable."

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>>254821426

>Doesn't include Masked Man Blue

>>254822140
The pic is as old as I remember, is there an updated version?

>>254821426
>>254822140
oh lord

>>254821426
This reminds me. Ages ago I got someone to draw an image of Kumatora and Maylene scissoring. I should get more images of this pairing.

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>>254821426
Also both Mother and Pokémon GenV are based in America.

>>254822589
Is that somewhere on the internet?

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>>254820104
>finally
I'd say at least a small amount of Japanese Mother fans knew about it at the beginning, and then a larger amount knew after the trailer came out and more stuff was revealed.
They probably have the same mixed reception that you see on /v/.
>>254822814
Isn't that more a reference to Harmoknight

>>254822846
It's probably on paheal. This was like in 2008.

>>254822814
I think that image is referencing Harmo Knight.

>>254822479

There's also the fact the white and black dragon Pokemon were originally one, owned by twin brothers.

It split into two when the brothers eventually fought.

You now realize the Pokemon world is the world of Mother 3 after the final needle was pulled, and Pokemon are chimeras in a new natural and painless form.

>>254822846
>http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/328159
Literally the only image that shows up if you put "Maylene" and "Kumatora" in the tags.

>>254823448
This must feel like a time machine to you.

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>>254822962
I think the neatest thing is using Google Translate to look up what they say about it.

>>254819267
I honestly liked that better than Earthbound's setup. They blew the expository load upfront, and then how you achieve it is what feels like disconnected random stuff. Nothing changes up pace as hard either, because the goal still stays "Go to Sanctuaries, beat Giygas"

That's why I liked Mother 3 a lot though, really good and consistent narrative. Nothing could have interchangeably switched around or taken out as much as Earthbound, where almost nothing really mattered.

>>254821426
jesus christ

>>254819105
>He doesnt Goregasm
>laughingmutants.png

>>254819979
They are all incredibly charming in their own way. I love it when Doria simply asks you to wait a few thousands of years for the bucket bros to take the water out of that pond. Doria is just that out of touch with the whole mortality thing.

>>254819045
"Please, look away for a second"
>Best in-game music

>>254812664
Don't cry until the end, bitch.

>>254812908
>Won't be on the 3DS because Nintendo is too garbage to get GBA running on it
Who cares.

>>254828757
>He doesn't know about the Ambassador games

>>254817857
>>254817175
The ruined castle just like the ending of Mother 1
The seashell houses
The sleeping dragon underground
The funny clothes of the inhabitants of said seashell houses.
Fuck dude the magypsies were the only natives of the nowhere islands left. MAGypsies. MAGicant

There's so many >implications from this. Is Kumatora the legitimate heir? Does that mean she's descended from Mary and George? George stole the secret of PSI from Gyiyg's race, so there must be some connection, but how did it sop read outside his family? How are Ninten and Ness connected? Who is the star master and how did Kumatora learn starstorm?

deepest lore

>>254829330
They ran like shit, from what I heard.

>>254830030
>The seashell houses

I-It all makes sense now..

>>254830132
They've run almost flawlessly for me (almost), but I'm pretty sure that they aren't the most resource intensive.

If you've ever tried to run Mother 3 on a flashcart, you can attest to how it isn't like the average GBA game.

>>254822814
Thats Harmoknight, another GameFreak game that was released before Pokemon X/Y for the 3DS, eshop only

>>254821426
You do know creatures inc is basically all ex APE employees right?

>>254819113
>Ness is the hotdog vender.
Anybody got that 16 page essay of it explaining this?

>>254823108
ITS TOO REAL

I CANT HANDLE IT BRUH

>>254821426
I don't get the Capsule

>>254831757
It's 12 pages only.
http://local-static3.forum-files.fobby.net/forum_attachments/0024/9183/Ness_Hotdog_guy_-_Gio_theory.rtf

>>254831757
I'd love to hear it, because it sounds like a load of shit to me

>>254832147
I think it's that in both games the villains are stuck in a space they choose to be in but can't get out of.

>>254817857
>Mother 1
>Kids beat Gyiyg and save the world
>Mother 2
>Gyiyg comes back and out of fear of being defeated again starts attacking from the past
>Kids go and defeat him thus changing the future
>Mother 1 events are rewritten
>Time passes
>Mother 3 takes place
>World gets rekt by the dark dragon
>World is restarted
>Mother 1 takes place again

>>254814673
Don't forget the big F or Y.

>>254832256
goddamn starmen.net is so autistic

that's why I love them

>>254832357
But the events of Mother 3 couldn't have happened if time was re-written after Giygas' defeat. How could Mother 2's events change Mother 1's? I don't understnad what you mean by that.

>>254829330
Ambassador games were GBA games hacked to shit so they could run. You couldn't use any 3DS features while they are playing since the 3DS preforms a lobotomy on the second processor.

>>254832613
TIME PARADOX

>>254814673
now i want to post this game on /pol/
>NINTENDO IS PRO TRANNY SJW PROPAGANDA

>>254832256
>>254832452
Aw man, I can't read past the first paragraph because it already doesn't make sense. Why would Porky bring Ness to the future only to have him brainwashed and working as a street vendor?? Does that make any sense? It's kind of clear that Ness is dead during the events of Mother 3 and Porky is unable to see him again (hence why he has his yo-yo and keeps it as a prized and protected memorabilia, along with all the other memories of him that exist in New Pork City and the time passage).

>>254818648
I'd like to think the M3 andonuts is Jeff.

best music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0OVbqOJFJs

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>Decide to play Explorers of Darkness
>Excepting mediocre game just like the first game
>Instead it's takes up a feel train
>Sky actually gives more to the feel train

>>254833334
Jeff would just blast Porky away with a bazooka or a bottle roket. It's his bitch dad.

>>254833114
It's a bit of a stretch, but Porky only because a dastardly SOB because he had a shit upbringing and was lonely. His fixation on Ness is simply because he wanted to be Ness's friend. A lonely, awkward tubby kid in extraordinary circumstances; people do strange, incoherent things.

>>254833647
How can you explore the sky?

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>>254833409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcfV4HvPE5Q

>>254832613
Based on his theory, Mother 2's events CAN'T change Mother 1's events. Just because Giygas (or Giegue or Gyiyg or whatever you want to call him) begins to attack safely from the past doesn't mean anything beyond 'He's attacking from the past!'.

If the game took you to Gyiyg's home planet to abort his fetus or something, then that theory would make sense, but.. nah, there's no way, right, guys?

Kidding aside, chronologically, it's Mother 1 -> Mother 2 -> Mother 3. That's really all there is to it. The games barely affect each other beyond references, but Mother 3's guiltier of that than Mother 2 is by a long shot.

>>254833704
I know thats why I said I'd like to think that

>>254833114
Do you think Post Gygas Ness would EVER be Porky's friend?

>>254834184
Nope

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>>254811220

THE BAD NEWS IS WHERE I FOUND IT
fuck man that's an old one
I love seeing old shit for the first time in ages, it's a good feel
pic somewhat related

>>254834027
>>254833409
Best battle theme
http://youtu.be/tQxEKE2FLas

>>254833786
Yes I understand that, that's why all that memorabilia exists. But it wouldn't make any sense for him to brainwash Ness and make him a street vendor. I just looked over all 12 pages of that article and I am amazed at the supreme autism on display. The guy said he has spent a lot of time pondering over Mother's overarching story and I find that hard to believe.

>>254834076
Well yeah, the fetus theory is just as stupid, all it takes is playing Mother to know how untrue that is.

>>254834184
Well no, but I don't know what that has to do with that theory. I guess it would make sense for Porky to brainwash Ness into being his friend but not to make him into a street vendor.

>>254811024
would i need to play the first two earth bounds to enjoy this game?

>>254834027
>not the most iconic song that appears in 9 gorillion forms durning the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKzRhveK7sQ

>tfw no one ever remembers the actual best song in Mother 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SEPT6eDAb4

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>>254834658
Yes

>>254834184
Yeah.
I mean, as much as they were friends before Giygas, maybe. They were just neighbors, really, not even good friends.

>>254820036
yeap

>>254834623
Maybe Brainwashed ness lost all his personality, and he was just an empty husk, and porky just got fustrated.

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>>254834808
where can i get the games and for what systems?

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>>254834658
No

>>254834658
I highly recommend playing them in order. Don't listen to anyone who says you can play them in whatever order you want, those people don't understand the series at all.

>>254834881
It still wouldn't make sense though, I also doubt Ness could be brainwashed. He's a master of PSI.

>Ocho the Octopus
>Ocho means eight in spanish

kek

>>254821426
not surprising in the least
Satoshi Tajiri is a huge fan of Mother

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So, here's my theory:

You really do perform an abortion in Mother 2. Now, hear me out before you Motherfags get too nutty. Itoi has come out as publicly stating that no abortion or anything particularly abortion-like is taking place in that final act, but there's an interesting thing to note about Japan and abortion.

Specifically, the Japanese consider children to be a gift, and abortion at the time was considered EXTREMELY taboo over in Japan. So of course Itoi would cover his ass and say Ness and the kids weren't outright naively aborting Giygas in the womb. All the fuckin' evidence is there, it's not a coincidence, Itoi did a shit job hiding it. It's Itoi being Itoi and assuming we're not going to catch on. It's par for the course for that guy.

The reason why the kids can't grasp the true form of Giygas' attack, the reason why Giygas looks nondescript and impossible to really pin down a fluid form for, is not because Giygas had essentially evolved into some kind of insane, pure evil entity. It all boils down to the fact that the kids had their brains implanted into shitty robots. They just can't quite fully grasp the reality of the situation between all the danger involved in what they were doing, and the fact that the entire situation was so god damn surreal.

But that's just a theory. A game theory. Thanks for reading.

>>254834762

>not the best version of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl7ih1s0gwM

>>254819824
Oh fuck I just got it too.

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>>254834875
Ness!
Paula
Poo
.......and jeff my son
>>254835046
Mother 1+2 is a contemplation of the first 2
But, just get an Nes emulator and Snes emulator

>>254819824
I.... I don't get it

>>254835259
No. There is no abortion, but I do think the fetus shapes could be a semblance to the events before Mother 1.
Also Giygas only appears like that because his presence malfunctions the robot eyes.

>>254835618
jive slang joke

>>254835259
Yes I'm sure the kids performed abortion on earth, inside a cave that was somehow the womb of an alien.

>>254835259
Thats old pasta
Giygas went insane because of his powers and had to be contained the devils machine. When Porky shut it off he turned into some type of Elderich horror

>>254835361

Jeff had a hard life.

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>>254834658
I would play Earthbound before Mother3.

If you don't like Earthbound you won't like Mother 3 anyway

>>254834789
This

>>254836085
a pity he couldn't be locked inside an absolutely safe capsule

>>254835893
Explain, non native english speaker here.
I know Jive slang is shit used by harlem jazz people, but I can't find what fly honey means

>>254836323
fly is used as an adjective:
cool, in style
He was drivin some fly ass car

honey is a girl

>>254834658
Storywise? Probably not. As far as Chapters 1-7 go.

But yes to get the full effect, especially around the end.

>>254836085
Giygas didn't go insane because of his powers, did you play Mother 1? And as I explained in my last post, he only appears like that because the robot eyes malfunction, hence the static and glitched effects on screen.

>>254836612
>Robot eyes malfunctioning
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>254818648
Kumatora is likely Poo's grandaughter or some shit.

Their names both reference Winnie the Pooh (Kuma no Pooh-san) in Japanese

>>254836157

Why was that allowed?

>>254836729
Maybe because robots have no hearts, etc, the machines can't see it or something.
Like robots can't grasp the whole birth thing

>>254836729
I don't have facts, but I do have observations. As I said the static and glitch effects, and also the fact that the image itself is a warped upside-down version of Giygas' face.

>>254819620
Did you just mash "A" through every bit of dialogue?

Porky abused time travel to take people from various periods.

>>254820627
It seems something like that would have been better for "show, not tell" to the player.

Fucking hell, I bet this was where the "ruined Onett" screenshot came from on that scrapped N64 incarnation.

>>254814362
>Natural Killer Cyborg
>sounds like the MM2 Wily Stage music
>MM is the Super Fightan Robot
fuck

>>254837308
>"ruined Onett" screenshot came from on that scrapped N64 incarnation.
W-what?

>>254835361
I have a toaster, so i don't know if i can emulate.

>>254837636
You can run emulators on Pentium IIIs, anon. Besides if you have a DS or PSP you can just emulate it there.

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>>254837597
No joke.

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>yfw Claus shot that lightning bolt at Lucas when he has his consciousness knowing it would reflect and kill him, because if he didn't he risked going mad again and killing his family

>>254836157
I think there's a thing where people that like Mother 3 don't usually like Earthbound, and vice versa, because of how different the story structure is.

The only parts I remember from the game are that scene, that island where they get high on mushrooms, those statues boss that was hard as fuck, and fighting Lucas brother. Earthbound was a more memorable game to me, though the characters werent half as good.

>>254837747
>>>254837636
>You can run emulators on Pentium IIIs, anon. Besides if you have a DS or PSP you can just emulate it there.

No. You can't. The way the DS is designed, you can't run GBA roms natively from the hardware for some reason. You need a special Flashcard with its own CPU, and brother does it eat battery.

>>254838330
There's a GBA emulator for DS, you know. I remember trying it out when it just came out,and it was decent.

>>254838330
Mind you, I'm talking about DS flash carts. It's possible to use a GBA Flash Cart if you have a slot for GBA but don't expect running GBA games in anything but that.

>>254837037
Then why wasn't Porky all glitchy.

I fucking love this game's combat. Is there any other game with an attack command that's this fun to use?

>>254816580
But what makes a game "objectively" good? With o many genres, you can't compare a game like Mother 3 to something like Call of Duty and tell which one is objectively better. People like different kinds of games, and that's all subjective.

>>254838795
Mario & Luigi RPGs, I guess.

>>254838856
I guess how well it's made overall and how well it's made to the genre it's applied, including its innovations on that genre, in comparison to the standard of the genre and the quality of games overall.

>>254837636
Motherfucker I emulated them on my wii.
Just go for it dude.
That said, the wii can also emulate ps1 pretty well, so I don't know if that's a good comparison

>>254838032
I thought he killed himself because he realized that he was supposed to be dead. Pokey forced him to stay alive, right?

>>254839124
In a sense. He got shit all over by mecha tyranazilla and porky scooped his ass up, healed him, and brainwashed him. He could have been saved otherwise but porky got him first.

>>254838690
The eyes only malfunction when exposed to Giygas, once Porky releases Giygas from the Devil's Machine Porky is no longer on screen. Also remember that only the battles are in first person.

>>254839392
Pretty sure porky stayed while gyiguegur turned into red spaghetti and ran after some exposition on how he is the greetest.

>>254839335
Claus isn't even really human by the end of the game, though. He doesn't have a heart or anything

>>254839656
Who knows what Claus was like before Porky started messing with him.

I never played the mother games before, /v/ jizzes themself over it though. Would you dudes personally recommend them, or is it just nostalgia goggles?

>>254839656

>Mother 2/Earthbound
>Praying robot filled with little girl's soul saves humanity
>Mother 3
>Boy revived with robot parts has no heart

I call bullshit, Itoi.

>>254839656
>doesn't have a heart
>>254838032

>>254839909
>Nostalgia
>GBA game

Nah. It's legit good.

>>254839049
>the wii can also emulate ps1 pretty well
TELL ME MORE

>>254812908

We might get a remake, actually. Mother 3 is Nintendo's one game that really, really deserves it. We'd pretty much get the cinematics if the N64 game plus the graphical art style of the GBA game.

>>254839950
That's the thing though. Paula needs to ask the people of Earth to pray for her because she can't do it herself. She's a robot, she has no soul.

>>254839564
It could be that only your vision of Giygas was obscured, or they left Porky normal to make him visible so you knew he was the one speaking. It could just be the limitations of the SNES. I really do believe this is why Giygas appears the way he does, also the fact that the glitching gets more intense as Giygas gets more aggravated, could be his influence increasing over the technology. Another thing I think could support this is the fact that in Mother 1, the alien invasion had influence over the furniture, and such. I think the aliens have an affect over human technologies.

>>254839909
Considering that the last game in the series came out in 2006 (and was only playable in English in 2008), I think you'd be hard pressed to call it nostalgia.

Heck, even the first game wasn't playable in english until the early 2000s. (Or was it the late 90s?)

>>254839909

>Mother 1

It's fantastic, far and away the best JRPG on the NES except for maybe Dragon Quest 4. Difficult and grindy as expected of JRPGs at the time, if you can't handle a bit of grinding and difficulty skip it or play the GBA version with the easy mode, pussy.

>Mother 2/Earthbound

Fantastic game. Fairly easy, but its world is perfect. Really good dialogue and writing and scenarios, but the combat is standard Dragon Quest. I'd recommend playing it no matter what.

>Mother 3

Final game in the trilogy. Most story-heavy of the 3, best combat of the 3. Features a battle system where you tap A to the beat of the music to get extra hits, which is fun as hell. Play it, but play Earthbound first, as there are connections between them.

>>254840289
I prefer to interpret it as him turning into red spaghetti because he can't control his power. I guess I see how you think that, though.

>>254840036
GBA is 14 years old

>>254839950
>>254839964
No, I mean he literally has no heart. If you do that thing to listen to the heartbeat in the music, it's apparently not even there.
>>254840038
Look into homebrew stuff, I got metal gear solid and Megaman legends running.
Also, it can emulate other stuff too, I played through Rondo of Blood and Majora's Mask on it

>>254814673
I'm so happy they ditched the kumatora being one of them twist for the way better one

>>254840532
And MOTHER 3 was one of the last games in the GBA's lifespan.

>>254840462
If you can count it as one, Sweet Home is the NES' best JRPG.

>>254840462
Copy, thanks anon. I'll do some of dat emulation

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>>254840672
God no.

I don't want to suffer the nightmares again.

>>254840672

Oh, I forgot about that. Never got around to completing it, but it was pretty amazing.

>>254840715

Have fun anon. Oh, as for playing Mother 1, I'd recommend the GBA version whether you use the Easy Ring or not, since it's retranslated.

>>254840847
copy

>>254840667
Which means MOTHER 3 is 8 years old

>>254812353
When you encounter the masked man, the question definitely isn't "who", but "why"

>>254840823
Where her tits?

>>254840990
And the English translation is 6 years old. Can you feel nostalgic for GTAIV?

>>254840990
......jesus christ

>>254841176
Possessed by one of the children she burned to death

>>254840990
You guys must be really young if you think something 8 years old is nostalgic.

>>254841189
6 years is long enough for people to feel nostalgic over

>>254840496
Well how else could you explain static effects and such? That stuff doesn't just happen to anything physically. Nonetheless, I do think his appearance is very depictive of pure agony, and even the appearance of a fetus could be interpreted as innocence, both of which make sense given the circumstances and happenings during and before Mother 1.

>>254841376
It came out after Brawl did. Can you feel nostalgic for Brawl?

>>254841376
NOBODY IS GOING TO FUCKING NOSTALGIA OVER MOTHER 3

>>254841559
What? You don't miss Japan Time? Are you some kind of faggot

>>254841189

Man, just remembering the time when there wasn't a translation. Mother 3 is the only game I ever imported on release. I had to have it no matter what.

>>254841698
That's not nostalgia.

>>254841561
I feel Nostalgia over it.
Mostly because the beginning reminds me of the good ol' days of America.

>>254841561
Time marches on anon.

Soon you'll be an old man.

>>254841708
I was poor(er) then, so I didn't import it, but I remember emulating it along with one of those silly "no spoilers" guides.

>>254814673

I was under the impression they were hermaphrodites/genderless and technically not human in the first place.

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>go on Amazon to price check Mother 3
>"who the fuck gave this 1 star"

>Totally Repugnant and Ovely dramatic, LoL this game is just terrible

>In Mother 3 you play a bunch of children trying to stop an alien invasion of earth. What the creators of the Earthbound/Mother series failed to realize is that there attempt at making the game incredibly deep by switching out the more standard rpg protangonist for children is they made the game incredibly boring. Send Sephiroth and Cloud in to fix this mess! There is no need for these kids to be doing this. They could make a plenty good game without them. Especially since I was expecting an action game like Ness and Lucas in super smash brothers, but I got this boring adventure game instead! It could have at least been an RPG like Legend of Zelda! They have picked the wrong genre to tell this story in. It would also help if the game wasn't in japanese! I had to scour the internet just to look for the english version Nintendo!

>All in all this game is not worth it, just get a vita instead.

>>254841731
>a yearning of past circumstances, events
Sounds like it to me

>>254841929
you realize it's a joke, right?

>>254841929
Which one of you fucks wrote that.

>>254841975
I was playing some DoA5 Ultimate the other day, dat nostalgia man. Hit me hard.

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>>254841929
>>In Mother 3 you play a bunch of children trying to stop an alien invasion of earth

>>254842126

It's pretty clearly a joke, anon. I just thought I'd post it here so everyone else could have a giggle at it too.

>>254841535
Considering you're taking hits from a being of unfathomable power, the robot bodies have to be taking some damage.

>>254842230
Don't be a cunt. There isn't some sort of invisible threshold you need to go through before you're allowed to feel nostalgic for things.

>>254814673
derp, just realized they are music modes

>>254837747
>>254838330
>>254839049
Ok i will try, but quick question, where can i find the translation for mother 2?will check out the wii option if my toaster is too bad.

>>254842489
Calling something that isn't even 10 years old "nostalgic" is trying too hard.

>>254842632
Mother 2 is the only one to have an official released translation (the prototype carts for EB0 don't count). Look up Earthbound.

>>254841929
I hate how the only image on the Amazon page is of a repro cart. Not to mention half of the used listing being repros. Do they not realize that it's illegal?

>>254841929
>>254842140
Sounds like it was written by my friend, that's the kind of humor he'd write. He's even said multiple times Earthbound shouldn't have been an RPG.

>>254842632
Just get the official rom of Earthbound, it plays well on the Wii so if you have to that should work.

>>254842632
The translated version of Mother 2 is called Earthbound. You can find it on pretty muh every SNES ROM site.

If all else fails, some guy made a compilation of all three MOTHER games for the Wii Homebrew Channel or something. I suggest you check that out if you're unable to play them on your PC.

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I just beat this game for the first time last night. I think my only problems with it were enemies that could one shot you, not from high damage or anything, but just outright one-shot you with flash spells. And the other was like half the psi you get works so little on bosses it's not even worth using, or costs too much/is pointless to use on regular enemies. Other than that I think it was about as good as a video game gets.

>>254842632
Just play Earthbound. If you really care that much about the differences between Mother 2 and Earthbound, there's a website for that.

>>254842886
It requires you to insert your own ROMS, though.

>>254842864
At some point Shigeru Miyamoto was going to take care of MOTHER's development instead of Shigesato Itoi. I wonder how the game would've been if Shiggy had been in charge.

>>254835259

>But that's just a theory. A game theory

God I hate that fucker's videos.

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Someone is cosplaying Ness at the comicon thing.

>>254842829
>>254842864
That explains why i can only find translations for mother3, though i should have known that the jap rom i downloaded was the same game as earthbound when the roms use the same image.
>>254842950
>>254842886
Thanks for the info, and i will try out these games.funny thing is i think i played this on an xbox i got from the pawn shop

>>254833647
>Guilmaster Wigglytuff's Special Episode

ow my soul.

>>254843351
>At some point Shigeru Miyamoto was going to take care of MOTHER's development instead of Shigesato Itoi.

Citation needed.

>but it's for kids because it's by Nintendo and doesn't have a dark and edgy art style

>>254843789
I don't have a link, but basically Shigesato Itoi approached Miyamoto with the idea for MOTHER, and his original reaction was "My team handles the programming, design, directing and everything else,and you just take care of the dialog."

>Finally reaching the end of a cave
>Hear cold winds blowing in the distance
>A faint, but oddly familiar jingle is playing in the background.
>It's soft. You can barely hear it. But with every step, it grows louder and louder...
>Suddenly start to recognize the melody about 10 seconds in.
>Finally take a step outside, and THIS plays at full volume. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH8JL_jGS_w
>You are now in a beautiful winter wonderland, with skiing snowmen and shit.

One of my favorite fucking parts of the game. One I think a lot of people overlook.

>>254838032
>because if he didn't he risked going mad again and killing his family

I think it was more a 'what have i become'-type realization than necessarily fear for going mad/evil again. Claus probably realized he couldn't go back to the way he was because he wasn't purely human anymore. That, and the World was ending anyway.

Still a great ending/moment in the game nonetheless

>>254841535
I assume you're not saying they're aborting Gyigs original fetus right? Just his rebirthing after his original defeat?
Cause the former would create the biggest fucking paradox ever

>>254836157
I like Mother 3 and cant sit through Earthbound.
The combat is just too boring in Earthbound, and there's too much dicking around going on

>>254838136
Nah I like them both. I prefer Earthbound though.

>>254842126
Why else would he have posted a picture of laughing piranhas?

>>254845439
>piranhas

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>>254821426
That guy is suppos to b flapjack

>>254844581
No, I just think the fetus could be a metaphor for how Giygas was really pretty innocent all along, he was sent to kill the very people that loved him and raised him as their own child and then had to live with his guilt.

Not sure if I should be happy that I remember pretty much nothing about the game or not.

>>254845914

It's fairly short, right? Time for a replay, anon.

Every time I think about replaying it, I remember Salsa's chapter and nope.

>>254844340
The burden of proof is on the link anon.

Therefore failure to produce such things leads me to believe you made it up.

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>>254821148
I'm not gonna attack you for your opinion, but I do have to question on why you would claim that the fan translation was "irredeemable"? This isn't the first time I have seen someone express this opinion, but they never once went into detail as to why, so I just have to ask.

>>254846153
I think he's right, pretty sure Miyamoto was skeptical of Itoi's idea.

Is there anywhere that has a prepatched Mother 3 ROM? The last time I tried to do it with Lunar, it fucked up - I got a friend to send me his copy eventually.

>>254846186
It's just cheap bait, nothing more nothing less. Anyone can appreciate how much work was put into the translation. It's so good its mindblowing. Christ.

>>254846687
There's plenty floating around. Also you're not supposed to patch it with Lunar, that only supports patches up to 16MB. Mother 3 was so massive that a new format had to be designed for it, the .ups format.

>>254846687
The patching process was easy for me. You just get the game then use the patch on the game. Nothing complicated. Just try it again.

>>254846309
Miyamoto hates everything that's not his idea, while being great, like DKC stlye grafix
>yfw Miyamoto shat on Dinosaur planet as a revenge for Dong Country

>>254847275
I think had Miyamoto been in charge of MOTHER it would've turned out a bit like StarTropics or something more action-packed.

>>254846738
The guy's blog, I think it is, is really fucking interesting and goes in depth about all the shit they had to go through for the hack
>reading how they had to get the game to properly draw the text
>characters in the text were fucking sprites

>>254847275
Miyamoto is a cunt. He's shit on everything he didn't make for the last 20 years, meanwhile he hasn't created a good game since ocarina. Arguably

>>254847605
Most games used sprites for texts, only from the DS era did they start using like UTF-8 and shit.
I tried to translate a DS game about blacksmithing, but my rune skills are just too low.

>>254847275
Yeah it seems like everything he touches is turning to shit lately, I really think he's lost his creativity. Project giant robot and Guard look like a pile of turd

Daily reminder that you should always use the restored version of the soundtrack when posting youtube links.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5AFAB0251FF4912F

>>254847786
That's interesting, why would they do that? It seems like a really strange method considering the GBA had a limit of sprites on screen. I really don't know much about this stuff though, so the reason why is probably obvious.

>>254847791
As Itoi once said, working on too many games means that you develop a set of premade solutions to everything that might pop up, which severely limits your creativity. This is exactly why he doesn't want to make a MOTHER 4.

>>254834307
>im dying squirtle
Even now it still gets me.

>>254834789
I didn't hear much of this song because I blew through the volcano wildly overleveled. If you're not standing in the exact right place the boulder in front of the volcano doesn't move, so I did the volcano really late.

Anyway, I'm partial to Even Drier Guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxERaqQ1drU

>>254847605
That's strictly the MOTHER3 Translation Blog. He has another one for Earthbound Stuff (EarthboundCentral) and one where he posts personal stuff related to his job at Funimation or just random Japanese shit (Matotree)

That said, everyone involved is a fucking genius, I gotta say. Anyone else would've given up halfway through.
They weren't the heroes we deserved, but the ones we needed.

>>254848116
No clue, I could be wrong though. I know the game I worked on used UTF-8 or something, since I could translate it with notepad, I literally just replaced text lines, then patched them back in, and it showed up ingame.

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>That transition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-EKQp4Hedk

>>254834789
>best
It's underrated as fuck, but not the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B77hKKI4SbI

>>254834027
>that whole speech by leder

>>254848164
I'd like to see Itoi make a new game, but something in a completely different direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr-CQ3Ej5W4

>>254848519
This game's ost is a masterpiece. GBA title and has music that is better than almost any other game's soundtrack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13diiCaT3hA

>>254848562
>And so, the old world was no more.

I dunno about you guys but that line always resonated with me. It was so fucking heavy.

>>254847786
>Most games used sprites for texts
Most games use tile layers for text, you dumbass.

>>254847475
Nah. Star Tropics was Genyo Takeda's baby. Miyamoto had fuck all to do with that.

>>254849408
That game was so cash though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4TPvlcKSa0&list=PL5AFAB0251FF4912F&index=135

>Nobody has posted the best track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdEF9FlXNno

>>254848554
My nigga

>>254850427
I remember reading a blog post about this one being really musically complex. A time signature of 28/7, or something.

It's funny how Earthbound threads turn out better on /v/ than on /vr/.
But then again /vr/ is filled to the brim with faggots so I'm not surprised.

One of the most underrated songs from this game, right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FnIjibs8As

So if we get Mother 3, will it be called Earthbound 2?

How made will the fan translators be?

>>254851553
>So if we get Mother 3, will it be called Earthbound 2?
Actually, Nintendo's records from when it was released made it look like if it was ever released in english, it would be called Earthbound 3 - maybe trying to fix the numbering a la Final Fantasy?

Also, the fan translation team has said repeatedly that they would be happy for Nintendo to release an official translation.

>>254851553
Nintendo called it Mother 3 in the E3 video, so probably Mother 3.

>tfw the heavy truth unfolds at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WNCBPdetG4

>>254851553
Nintendo themselves called it Mother 3.

Plus it wouldn't make sense to call it Earthbound.

>>254848614
Itoi made some casual games I think.
Like a fishing game

>>254852528
Yeah I know about that game, I actually own a copy of it but I mean a new game.

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>>254851539
Ugh, I just cannot appreciate video game music at all. I love video games, I love everything about em, been playing them since I was a little kid, but man...I just don't see the appeal of listening to video game music outside of the game it was created for. I don't become attached or think of the music in a "level" or "area" of a game to be something emotional, to me it's the equivalent of elevator music, it's just intended and meant to be played in the situation and context of which it was created for, and for that purpose only. I have nothing against people who listen to video game music, mind you. But I myself have no appreciation for it, because to me it's not the video game music that I remember, it's the video game and the experience that the music and the game brought together created. The music is nothing without the game, but the game IS still something even without the music, it's not equal.