ITT: yfw your main is SS tier this time around
>The King of Donkeys
It's too good to last forever.
>Stronkey Kong tentatively confirmed
I've long awaited the day when the Funky Monkey would lay the Banana Slamma on all opponents. I've been putting up with his drawbacks since 64 and now it's his time to shine.
>Seismic Tossing niggers into oblivion
>Chain forward smashing scrubs all the way across Sector Z
>All copy abilities were useful to some degree.
Will Kirby become the unstoppable eldritch rape-force that he canonically is?
I'll just play whoever the top tier female is.
Hoping it's Palutena or Lucina.
>Mario restored to N64 solid as fuck status
All them niggas who never play Mario because he's the mascot be prepping their rectal cavities for a forced insertion.
literally the one character I was looking forward to
Also obligatory scarflard comment
>mfw rewarded for maining Mario in all these games after so many years
>Kirby Top tier
>Bowser High tier
>was planning on using Greninja anyway
>SSB4 event with nintendo's house rules
>time match with sudden death clause
>wins the tournament by stalling matches until sudden death and then getting a quick hit off
why wasnt scarflard at evo?
>wins by using strategy
But of course this is /v/, because he won you say it was just a fun tourney and he was too tryhard about it, but if he lost you would be sucking hungrybox's dick because he was the first competitive smash champion
Hopefully he stays when the game is released.
I wish he had played the fucking 3DS demo so I could hear about mein niggenwerfer Yoshi. Form the gameplay demo for Yoshi vgbootcamp showed he looks physically buffed as shit, but I wanna know if his Egg Toss is still the gimped Brawl version.
But he WAS too tryhard about everything. Scarflard got 4 Smash Balls in a row in that one match, meanwhile Rosalina let Mega Man have the Smash Ball AND THEN RAN INTO IT JUST SO THE AUDIENCE COULD SEE THE FINAL SMASH. Rosalina is the true hero of the E3 tourney and is the winner in my heart.
Tiers are helpful in that you should never devote a lot of time to people in really, really low tiers and you should be condescending towards people who exclusively pick high tier characters.
Is every post in this thread a troll? There's no way anyone anywhere could gather enough data for a tier list.
You can't just fuck around for 30 minutes and expect to know every character's matchups.
These are more like first impressions rather than an actual tier list.
The only thing they show is which characters the best players use and which characters are used only by less-good players or which characters are not understood well. They're pointless in all games of any genre.
>good player gets 4 smash balls
lmao, that means he was excelling in that match. And it was nice of Rosalina to walk into megamans final smash but I dont see why it was such a big deal since we all knew what it was since the Smash direct.
Nobody has ever liked complete tryhards that use bullshit boring tactics to win tourneys. Tournaments are more than just winning a game - they're supposed to look interesting to the audience as well.
The whole point of tournaments is to win and be number one under the sun not for fun. Sorry that "professional" smash kerfuffle isn't melee.
I saw it, I know everyone was cheering, but it wasn't that hype because we already knew the final smash. If we hadn't seen it, then yes I would agree that was very hype.
Yes. More often than not, tier lists become great big feedback loops. The best people main certain characters, the win rates put those characters on the high tiers, other people play those characters because they're high tier, thus the characters' win rates improve and they stay in the high tiers.
>The whole point of tournaments is to win and be number one under the sun not for fun.
Even people who play real fighting games professionally are given shit if they're boring to watch.
Unless you're implying that the game is perfectly balanced it's entirely reasonable to assume than some characters are simply much more viable than others. Please try and tell me how Melee Kirby is just as good as Melee Fox.
>Down B can now be used in air as a powerful spike
>dash attack is the DKC roll
>aerials as fuck
>combo ability as fuck
>literally bigger, faster, and stronger too, more so than every previous game
>Little Mac low tier
Fuck you I'm going to be a top player and I'm going to be the best Little Mac player ever.
To that end, since the Wii U and 3DS do allow for patching, once the metagame solidifies itself, I wonder if Sakurai'll mess with people getting complacent with the way characters play.
Buff up a low tier, nerf a ludicrously high tier. We don't even have to wait between entries anymore for him to start messing with shit.
>Sonic - No one played him!!! Putting him in the middle to be safe.
I hope Samurai doesn't troll DK fans by nerfing him before release. It's our time to shine!
>"One of the best smash players on the planet"
>article written by ZeRo
I can't believe he got even gayer.
New chapter when?
>yfw when it used to say "ZeRo Suit Samus" before he edited it
I thought we'd been over this.
At any rate, it's a little soon. The game's not even finished yet.
>My Brawl main is now in the running for top tier
Nope no bias here, Sakurai is completely neutral.
>Tfw its been about 6 years and I still can't get used to FLUDD
He was my secondary in Melee but I had to switch to Luigi for it in Brawl.
>THE MODEL LOOKS AWFUL LOOKS LIKE THE 64
Nigger, DO YOU EVEN 64?
I wish I could punch that faggot in the face.
Literally the worst DK audio. He sounds like they went out and got some fucking homeless bum to act like a retard going "UGOOO HOOO HOOOH WOOOOO UHGOOGUOUUU NOOONONNOOOO GRUUU" into a mic and threw that in for DK. It's insufferable in every recent game it's been in.
If they want to have DK sounds like a monkey, use monkey noises.
If they want to have him sound like a person, use a person speaking.
If they want to have him be a combination of a monkey and a person, then they should fucking kill themselves because it ruined the audio of a number of games.
And shit, it's not like it's impossible to make monkey noises, Charles Martinet did it so well no-one even knew it was him. It's not even really a style problem, it's just a shitty lazy voiceactor problem.
>Planned mains so far (of characters that were playable in the demo) are ZSS and Pit
>Planned mains were going to be the Ninja Trio (ZSS, Greninja, Sheik), and Pit
Bitch. He took out Hungrybox.
Not only a player significantly better than him, but also more likable.
There is no mercy in my heart for such a camping faggot.
>ignorant anti-tier people still exist
>people still think games are somehow perfectly balanced and you can do equally well with every character and somehow all movesets are magically equivalent
>in the year 2014
WHY WHY WHY
No, he has the Upperdash Arm. It's like a really strong run+uppercut. They buffed some of his moves, down-B is now two orbitars, his recovery was also changed and he no longer glides.
I do wonder how much has changed already, they're clearly at the polishing stage or done with it
With the game coming out next month all balance, physics and additions are probably done in the 3DS version (with balance and physics being the same on wii u)
They're probably at the debugging stage on 3DS and almost done the additions/polish on Wii U (sakurai said they only released at different times due to debugging being too much at the same time for both versions)
We saw that Ike got blue flames and palutena's model may even have been changed a bit on the face, and lucinas landing lag seems less than what marth had, so there's some polish work.
I would say its safe to say any changes and features are now final, any new gameplay or screenshots they give us are how its gonna be in game
>my mains Kirby is top tier and Samus is high
I'm taking this with a grain of salt, but if this is really so, that's fantastic.
You retards realize this list was made by the transfag who won the smash "tournament" right ? How can you ask someone to objectively consider characters if he can't consider himself objectively ?
Really kirby is in top tier because he wants to legitimate his win, and i'm not even hating on the guy I'm just saying this shit has no value. Id rather get the input of someone who is actually a top player like hungrybox.
Yeah, but I wonder why she isn't fixed some. That down air is useless in most situations and the other sweetspot kicks are kind of hard to land. Her jab and grab is so pathetically slow too.
I don't get the obsession over tier lists. It's nothing but retards spewing hot air at each other. For example. I kick people's asses as Samus in Smash 64, and on many tier lists, she's considered bottom of the barrel. People screaming about tiers are almost as bad as console wars faggotry.
she needs a overhaul of her kit. and like i seed the games dont give much to work with her.
the problem is having moves for her that also look like belong to her her current kit is already stretching this unfortunately, ithink is more a design problem
>I kick people's asses as Samus in Smash 64, and on many tier lists
Tiers are more about ease of use than reflections of player skill.
A skilled kirby player in Melee will beat a shitty Marth every time.
However characters like Kirby and Mewtwo in Melee are just disadvantaged or harder to use than characters like Fox and Sheik.
>Someone wins a tournament with a Potato Tier character
WOAH IT WAS VERY GOOD ALL ALONG INSTANT S TIER
Tier are for queers. They're only good for people who want to imitate 'pro' players. Read some matchup info instead.
>People shitting on ZeRo for playing runaway in the Sm4sh tournament when Hbox is much worse when it comes to this stuff.
Go watch zero play PM then go watch the EVO top 8 matches with Hbox.
>The ball drop
Bow down to Dorpsbewoner, king of edges.
>Tiers are more about ease of use than reflections of player skill.
Tiers assume equal skill in both players.
A Fox player will beat a Ness player of equal skill due to basic character advantages because if both players are equal, only the attributes of the actual characters will be the variable in the match.
UMvC3 is a perfect example of this. Most top guys use the easier-to-use top tier characters such as Zero, Virgil, Morrigan, Doom, etc. and then apply their skill on top of their advantages. However, I'd say at least 2/3rds of that game's characters are viable at top-level barring some horrid matchups (Haggar/Magneto makes me fucking shudder) given good skill, but it takes more effort. Shuma-Gorath made Top 8 at Evo two years in a row via two different players, and yet he's not one of the better characters on tier lists. One year TWO different MODOK players got in Top 8 if I recall.
>bowser high tier
>dong top tier
Make Dedede as good as he was in Brawl and I'll be a happy camper
Fuck, I thought Murfy was in the new Smash based on OP's picture
Sakurai himself she's getting generously buffed, which is awesome cause I mained her in Melee, but hated her in Brawl. Any SamusBros play her in the SmashFest demo?
>Little Mac in bottom tier
I don't even care he looks like too much fun
>tfw no Lucas
I'm devastated. Those smash attacks were my bread and butter.
This is why fighting games will never be taken seriously in the esports community.
Get it together, devs.
As a Macfag who played him in the demo, he's pretty fun.
Crowd went crazy-go-nuts when I stole a Smash Ball from a Megaman player and started to wreck shit as Giga Mac.
Later, I ended a sudden death in less than two seconds with a liberal application of the Jolt Haymaker.