It's like if Sakurai purposely made this to BTFO the

>>253347232
Daily reminder that based Falcon kicked Chrom's shit so hard he was demoted to Final Smash only status

>>253347498
Daily reminder that he did it with his eyes closed.

He also BTFO'd anti-swordfags

If that was the case he'd have used Shulk in that spot, not he one character nobody actually wants.

That's exactly what it's like.

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Post yfw gematsu got BTFO
Post yfw Lucina got in and everyone got proved the fuck wrong
Post yfw glorious Japan Time tears

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>>253347232
its like Sakurai purposely made it really big as a ruse

Yeah... almost like if it was on purpose or something... hmmm...

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>>253348932
>mfw the cap

>>253349404
>inb4 black man who nobody remembers gets in
>the entire trailer is btfo on Ridley, confirming him as stage hazard

He probably got NTR'd by him on FE:A

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>>253348932
>leakfags can't get a word in edgewise anymore without everyone shitting on them
Sweet justice, I was sick and fucking tired of every SSB4 discussion being MUH LEAKS and people being shat on if they so much as questioned it as anything other than fact. The knee-jerk, suffocating narrative swing both ways.

Sakurai made the leak on purpose

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>>253351062
>Sakurai was the leaker all along

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>>253348932
I still wouldn't mind Shulk, though.

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>>253350651
Amen, brother.

>>253351258
That's bullshit but I believe it

>>253350651
That's just the typical behaviour of a fighterfag

>>253349973
How can you not remember the Remember Me Black Guy

>>253350651
>>253352151
Wonderful, who wanted Shulk and RH rep anyway? Can't wait for Dark Pit and Dixie kong

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>>253348932
>b-but the leak is still real guys, he just thought Robin was Shulk

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>>253352981
The difference is that if Dark Pit was planned playable they'd have confirmed him during the trailer when he showed up. Since he's directly shown and referred to and thus disconfirmed, chances are it's to open the door to Hades as a playable character.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if that turned out to be the case, and you shouldn't be, either.

>direct disconfirmation of Viridi
>direct disconfirmation of Phosphora
>direct disconfirmation of Dark Pit
>not a single mention or reference to Hades

Get ready for some fuckin' shenanigans next month.

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>>253348932
>Leak getting duebunked only lowered Shulk's chances and raised Lucas's chances

We're still getting a Rhythm Heaven rep, bank on it.

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>>253348932
I seriously didn't think Lucina was going to be in because I thought Robin would be a much better choice. He got in so whatever, it's cool that both made it.

>>253355063
It seems so far fetched. Is there even the slightest chance the Smash Run enemy might have been somebody else and we simply saw what we expected to see?

>>253355271
Nah, it's the exact same sprite.

>>253355063
Animal Crossing and Electroplankton had stages in Brawl, but no characters.
Its not a sure thing yet.

>>253355505

AC not only had a stage, but an item and an assist trophy

>>253355505
>>253356410
>>253355063
I wouldn't count on Smash Run enemies to be indicators that there will be playable characters to go along with them. There's probably going to be a bunch of them from franchises not already represented in Smash.

>>253356767
Well from the sounds of it there's only one other series that has Smash Run enemies but no other representation so far. And that series is Ice Climber.

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>>253352981

I wanted Shulk

>>253347232
>implying Rosalina didn't BTFO out of the Gematsu leaks.

>>253357337
Rhythm Heaven is another one, don't forget. Sneaky Spirit, or whatever. Can't argue with the proof.

At any rate, Nintendo's got a boatload of franchises to take enemies from to put into Smash Run. It'll be a new way to pay tribute to those franchises that isn't a trophy/assist trophy/footnote on a Nintendo release timeline.

>>253354539
Game & Watch.

>>253354539
Hades could easily be manipulated in such a way to get the same level of appreciation at Falcon in the last teaser.

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>>253357869
The Gematsu Defenders demanded that we pretend that she wasn't mentioned because 'it wasn't during E3'. Then we all played along and Greninja came and BTFO the Gematsu Leak and the Gematsu Defenders demanded that it was true because vagueness. Then we all played along and now irrefutable proof comes along that the Gematsu Leak's remaining picks were padding/guesses/wishlisting from the creator, and the Gematsu Defenders are still in full damage control.

Can you believe there are Gematsu Defenders on the internet RIGHT NOW trying to save face by comparing their leaks to the Pokemon X/Y leak?

>>253358119
They didn't confirm that nigger either, so further proves my point.

>>253358481
Who knows? Just my guess. When all the other viable playable options have been exhausted and all that's left is Hades, I just kinda assume Hades.

Wouldn't surprise me to see him a boss/event in Smash Run or something instead, though, so it's anyone's guess.

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>>253358680
Why are you so happy the gematsu characters are being scrapped for a bunch of clones? Just look at Lucina

>>253358481
You're delusional if you think Smash fans will give any fucks about Hades, especially in comparison to Captain Falcon.

Fuck, the only character I could imagine getting as much hype as Falcon would be Goku or some shit.

>>253358680
Hades wipl be the final boss of this game. Like a Giga Bowser thing.

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>>253358916
>gematsu characters are being scrapped

It's like you think the leak that came out was real and Sakurai made some clones to replace them and make it look fake.

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>>253359194
No, it means I think that the leak being fake means that a bunch of clones are the likeliest characters to pad out the roster

>>253358916
A lot of leakfags thought that Chrom/Shulk/Chorus Men were the last newcomers and wouldn't listen to any flaws of the leak so I'll take Lucina since it shut them up.

>>253358916

>For a bunch of clones
>Names the only clone

You're so fucking retarded it hurts. Fuck off and kill yourself.

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>>253358916
I could care less about Lucina, and we've had clones/semi-clones in every Smash, so who cares? It was going to happen regardless of what Sakurai said he intended to do, and Chorus Men/Shulk/Chrom were clearly not planned from the beginning like everyone else, so.. yeah.

>>253359012
I'd be down with that.

>>253359194
Yeah. Shoe's on the other foot and Gematsu Defenders will say anything to try to save face, man.

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>>253359334
>>253359320
>>253359408

Until the next clone comes, and the next one, and the next one. It'll be the roster you certainly deserve.

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>>253359408
>I could care less

>>253358119
Game & Watch is a veteran. They don't get banners.

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>>253348932
relevant

>>253354539
Anon please, my heart.
Sakurai has already heightened my hype with the Robin reveal
Do you think hes so benevolent as to grace us with his husbando?

>>253347232
So anyone else thinking this game is going to have around 50 characters?

>>253359910
Nice try, ridleyfag.

>>253360112
If lucina is possible everything is, cockfagsucker

>>253359910
Why are a bunch of characters who will never get in behind captain falcon?

>>253359910
Who the hell is that G-Spot guy on Lucina?

>>253360197
Because HE IS DA LAW.

>>253360185
Lucina was near the top of Japan's wishlists akak the people Sakurai actually listens to

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>>253359694
It's naive to assume there's not going to be at least one or two, and it's not like they required a ton of resources and time to implement if they're doing it. You sound awfully bitter. Were you a Shulk/Chrom fanboy?

>>253359975
This is Sakurai we're talking about. The guy is so biased for his own shit it hurts.

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Post yfw "IT'S TIME TO TIP THE SCALES!"

>>253360087
53.
I'm Nintendo.

Am I the only one that hates "BTFO"? "Blown the fuck out"? It sounds like someone talking about their hair...

>>253348932
But mfw is different for those three things. The first is good, the second is bad, the third is who gives a fuck.

>>253360354
>You sound awfully bitter. Were you a Shulk/Chrom fanboy?

Yes, I was given legitimate hope that there wouldn't be any clone newcomers. Instead I'm faced with a reality that suggests the clones are going to start coming in like mad.

>>253360342
>Lucina was near the top of Japan's wishlists akak the people Sakurai actually listens to
not even near
S:
Mewtwo
Roy

A:
Mega Man
Palutena
Shulk
K. Rool

B:
Dixie Kong
Chrom
Zoroark

Waddle Dee


She was only wanted by FE fans, and sakurai will listen to the fest because nintendo is having fucking trouble with them because they used to buy shitton ofnintendo products

>>253360481
My dad is sony; he said they're going to buy you.

>>253358951
He's a well written and likable villain in Uprising. The only people who'd disagree are either people who haven't played the game or bitter waifu fags.

All Sakurai has to do is give him exposure. He has proven himself time and time again that he can deliver the hype.

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>>253348932
>tfw Shulk will never be in Smash Bros as a playable character
>tfw Choir Boys will never be a thing
>tfw Chrom is Final Smash bait

I actually enjoy Lucina as a lord way more than Ike and Marth and I'm glad she is in this game.

Captain Falcon is my eternal main.

So ... are we sure that Chrom is a final smash only?

Isn't he like. An alternative skin to Lucina or something?

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>>253360648
Chrom is Final Smash only

>>253360549
That list is from a jackass who suclks at Japanese and makes shit up

http://legendsoflocalization.com/what-does-japan-think-of-little-mac-in-smash-bros/

Here's an actually reliable source

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>>253360592
And the main reason people want him in is so he can mock and commentate, which he can't do when playable. He's work better as a stage element, appearing every so often to hurl some insults and an attack or two. Medusa would work better as a KI villain rep.

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>>253360648
More delusion than a Ridleyfag.

And I should know. I'm a Ridleyfag

>>253360592
>He's a well written and likable villain in Uprising
Doesn't matter when it comes to reveal hype.
>The only people who'd disagree are either people who haven't played the game or bitter waifu fags.
Assume 80% of people hyped for Smash have not played it
>All Sakurai has to do is give him exposure. He has proven himself time and time again that he can deliver the hype.
No one will care about this in a trailer, especially if it's as cringeworthy as Palutena's.

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>>253360745

That sucks... atleast I get gender-bender Robin.

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>>253360464
I'm a sucker for spellswords.Will probably main him

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>>253360780
>IT ISN'T MUH SOURCE SO I DONT APROVE IT
Also thanks for giving me more credibility for my point, japs didn't ask for mac and didn't know too well about him, unlike the west
>>253360847
you aren't

>>253360529
>Yes, I was given legitimate hope that there wouldn't be any clone newcomers.
You and me both, brother. Same guy you were talking to.

It's why I don't care about Lucina, since she clearly required damn near zero effort to make.

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>>253348932
>Post yfw glorious Japan Time tears

Japan loves Luci, it's the americans who are crying about Chrom

>>253360960

>I'm a sucker

You got that part right.

>>253361012
Little Mac had a recent revival. He's an advertising pick.

>>253347498
He should've kicked his dick so we don't have to have waifushit instead.

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I don't understand why people are even happy about Lucina at all. She's just a Marth clone without a tipper which is even worse than Roy.
Including Chrom could have opened up an entirely new moveset for a sword fighter. It's laziness and waifufagottry on Nintendo's part imo

>>253361070
But they also wanted Shulk, too.

Either way, Japan wins. Just like in 1945.

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>Activate Lucina's final smash
>Hear "Hand... HUNGERS!"
>Owain appears and whoops ass on the target with Lucina
>Every time she uses the Final Smash it summons a different Future Child
>Their hair color is randomized every time
At the very least, I want Morgan to be a part of Lucina's final smash

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>>253361179
For the most part, a lot of the excitement revolving around Lucina is that she had a hand in debunking the remaining Gematsu Leak newcomers.

The rest hate her 'cause she's a clone.

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>>253361124
Developed by westerns and mainly bouhgt by them
not to mention the asked for him a lot

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Why are you retards acting like anyone except Chrom actually got deconfirmed? The only one it's looking dire for is Chorus Men and it's still very likely that there will be some sort of Rhythm Heaven rep in the game.

If Lucina had been shown three months ago, would you call Palutenafags, Pacfags and Miifags BTFO as well?

>>253361179
I actually think Lucina is a more interesting character than Ike, Marth and Roy and I was glad to see her in this game.

My favorite lord is Hector, by the way.

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>>253361179
Chrom wouldn't have existed either way because Robin is getting in.

They wouldn't put in 2 brand new FE reps, so they're making a clone.

>>253359694
that's the best slippery slope argument I've ever seen

>>253361124
Xenoblade outsold the Wii Punchout game. He was put in there to appease Western fans. Over Ridley.

>>253360354
Cant really deny that at this point. I wonder what happened, since I remember the reports that he was hesitant to give Kirby more reps in the previous games or something along those lines.
Could Uprising alone really have made samurai shatter his humility shell?

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>>253361248
I want Morgan to be playable
Avatar had to go and be more relevant didn't he
Why can't we have the tactician with the reasonably consistent design

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>>253348932
>
>>253361292
Fuck off breakman, the gamatsu leak was the worst outcome for kerfuffle's future

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>>253361179
>I don't understand why people are even happy about Lucina at all.

maybe because they like Lucina?

>>253361369
>debunking the remaining Gematsu Leak newcomers.

But that didn't happen. Do you even know your own arguments anymore? The thing that was debunked was "these are the only remaining characters to be revealed".

Oh and Chrom, but no one gives a shit about Chrom.

>>253361550
Slippery slope?

It's already happened in other Smash games. It's history repeating itself

>>253361613
>that horrid animation

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I was one of the guys who told /v/ that there was no way Lucina would get in after Marth's reveal. Swore it up and down.

I'm probably gonna play Lucina more than Marth.

Sorry for doubting you, Lucinafags.

>>253360849
>Assume 80% of people hyped for Smash have not played it
>implying everybody played F-Zero
>implying anybody played Fire Emblem
That's my point. Sakurai doesn't need a foundation to make a character good or well liked. But Hades has one and Sakurai could work magic with it.

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>>253361623
>the gamatsu leak was the worst outcome for kerfuffle's future

Considering that didn't promise us Female Roy I'd say we'd be better off with it

does anyone have links to the threads at deniable plausibility? I had a doctor's appointment and couldn't check /v/

>>253361179
Lucina doesn't have Roy's horrible sourspot, though. Her blade has equal power throughout it, which is more like Ike. Plus she's going to have different physics, weight, etc like all clones.

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>>253360648
We've officially crossed into negative hype Anon.

We better prepare our asses because now we're being hunted like black men in the forties.

These faggots are going to hound us every time we mention "well maybe it wasn't fucking cool to have Chrom get fucking buttraped by Captain"

>>253359694
I bet you think Ryu and Ken are just palette swaps of each other.

>>253361826
Yeah because one clone ruins the roster and mean no more unique newcomers. Bitching about Lucina is about as logical as bitching about a costume taking up space.

>>253352981
Who cares, at leastw e recovered the element of surprise that was lsot with the leaks.

>>253361935
He shit on me?
He added Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Robin.

>>253347232
It was
>the moral of FE:A was about defying destiny

>>253361179
she better have some seriously different mechanics like being lighter/faster or some shit because having a pure clone with its own slot on the roster is pretty disgracful

>>253361462
Except Palutena, Pac Man, and Mii were all expected characters regardless of the leak.

>>253361967
>mean no more unique newcomers.

If they're already making clones to save energy why the fuck should I expect anything else?

>>253362056

And so is Shulk. Your point?

>>253361462
I can't speak for everyone, but for me, I just wanted the gematsufags to shut up about the "leak". Anytime you'd suggest a different character getting in, you'd be met with IT' WASN'T IN THE GEMATSU LEAK THOUGHHHH. Personally, I still want to see Shulk, but fuck that leak. Now everything is open game again. We don't know what to expect anymore and we can get some legitimate surprises now. I'm hyped for that.

>>253361997
>Pac-Man and Robin

I now intensely desire a Batman & Robin parody picture.

>>253361462
>that backpedelin
Palutena, pacman and mii were obvious and realistic choices, shulk's game didn't managed to sell one million. And gematsu said the day before robin's reveal shulk would be revealed the other day. And Rythmin heaven can get an assist trophy or stage like find mii, wich has a enemy in smash run and not a rep. Also Mii's have the smash icon.
>>253361826
>clone + unique character > blue haired swordmen + chorusfucks + weaabofuck + only 47 characters in smash

>>253362116
He really isn't.

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>>253361724
It's pretty appealing to me, anon.

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>>253347232
No, Chrom probably stole the girl Sakurai was trying to marry while he was playing Fire Emblem Awakening.

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/r/ing the F-Zero ending with Chrom instead of Black Shadow

>>253362063
Because being a pessimistic little bitch is childish?

>>253361462
People are targeting leakfags not Shulkfags.

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>>253361179
>Including Chrom could have opened up an entirely new moveset for a sword fighter.

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>>253362209

Refer to the picture again and you'll see that he is.

>>253362027

r u new to clones
they always have minor differences like that
she and Marth will be like Falco/Fox
there are never any 100% copy-pasted, literally alt-skin clones

Her sword difference aside, you could tell her Dancing Blade was faster, and her Dolphin Slash has a greater horizontal movement

>>253361462
>>253361679
Listen - the leak is dead. If one part of a leak is false then the entire thing isn't reliable anymore. The leak also had errors before that leakfags continued to gloss over but Chrom being a final smash is the final nail in the coffin. Not to mention morning of the announcement, the leaker said it would be Shulk.

Shulk and Chorus Kids are no longer locks for Smash. They both still have a chance. Hopefully you won't cling to a debunked leak as the only hope for them getting in.

>yfw Chrom took the fall to make sure the leak didn't come true.

Anti-leakfags should be praising him.

>>253361973
I'd rather be unsurprised by unique charcters than unpleasantly surprised by clones

>>253362147
>Now everything is open game again

No it isn't. There are barely any reasonable characters to expect. Given how lucky the Gematsu leaker has been I forsee Shulk, a RH rep, another clone, and that's it

>>253362190
Clone < No clones

Sakurai admitted they're almost out of newcomers. You're still not getting more than 48 or so

>>253362304
>M-Muh hypetrain

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>>253361997
>Pac-Man

Pac-Man is the least deserving fighter on this roster. I have no idea how people complain about any other character not being "deserving enough" when this fucking faggot is in the game.

>>253361462
>VA talking about exciting news
>mentions Dragon Age afterward
>likely VO'ing for the new Xenoblade game
>"B-but muhnado!"
>manado in the music room
>surprise! they're putting Xenoblade music into the game

You Gematsu Defenders are so fuckin' delusional that I suspect we'll be watching all your hilarity for months to come.

>>253361582
People change a lot in a decade and a half. Sakurai's not the same guy he was when he was developing Melee.

The more things change, though, the more things stay the same.

>>253361679
Yeah, it did.

Can you legitimately trust the Gematsu Leak when it's been incorrect five times? Can you honestly, with a straight face? 'cause only the most hardcore and delusional Gematsu Defenders can.

Sorry, but there's only so many times I can handwave clearly incorrect shit when it's been BTFO twice before that on two separate occasions and then three times all at once. I genuinely have no reason to believe that we're getting Shulk and Chorus Men.

Y'all gotta come to grips that he had access to E3 information and then padded the rest of his shit and it came back to bite him.

>>253360464
SPECIAL DELIVERY!!!!

>>253362524
>VA talking about exciting news
>mentions Dragon Age afterward

Stopped reading there. Look at the fucking dates you fucking idiot.

>>253349404
That actually spooked me.

>>253361179
why doesn't anyone else like clones? more roster slots than we would have got to begin with and more characters get represented. In Melee you would have got Dedede instead of Dr. Mario, Young Link, Ganondorf, Pichu and Roy.

>>253362490
Why do you shit up every Smash thread now? Your "the sky is falling!" bullshit is really annoying.

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>>253362497

u best be havin' a giggle m8
Pac-Man literally most iconic video game character of all time, how is he not deserving of a spot in Sm4sh?

>>253361935
I guess you wanted Chrom.

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>>253348932
>mfw people started crying over Lucina
cry more fags

>>253362497
>Bamco developing the game
>not expecting Pac-Man

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>>253362589
The guy's clearly talking about the new Xenoblade game. Good try, though. Stay mad, Gematsufag.

>>253361179

People only like her because she's a girl.

Once again proving straight people are cancer.

You people forget that we also got a quite unique Mage/Fighter along with Lucina, so it's not "lack of time" or "laziness". Sakurai knew fans wanted her, and since IN THE GAME SHE'S FROM SHE MODELED HERSELF AFTER MARTH her being a clone makes sense.

We're still getting several more newcomers, including secret unlockables, same as the other three games. Don't start up the waterworks just yet.

>>253362524
>Celebrates a clone while shitting on Shulk who would actually be unique

Fuck off shitposter

>>253362524

Jesus fucking Christ you're a retard. That post isn't saying the leak must still be true, it's saying Shulk still has a huge chance no matter if the leak is right or not, while several morons ITT act like those characters are suddenly confirmed deconfirmed.

Learn to read, spazkid.

>>253361623
Shulk, Chrom, and Chorus men weren't gonna be the last of the newcomers roodypoo

>>253362765
Says the clone sympathizer

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>>253362490
>Clone < No clones
One clone won't affect you unlike lliteral whos
>Sakurai admitted they're almost out of newcomers. You're still not getting more than 48 or so
He said the newcomer videos, there will still be unlockable
>denying the hype train
Just get the fuck out faggot, your leak is dead, you aren't getting your gematsufags and there will live hype like japan time

>>253362765

Shulk isn't even in that game, idiot.

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>>253362346
That picture is exactly the type of shit that Sakurai said he doesn't like. He posts one little thing on Twitter or something and people automatically go crazy and assume it has to do with Smash. The rest of that is just some voice actor making vague hints, because there's a TON of highly rated Nintendo games, some that even sold better than Xenoblade, that don't have a rep.

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>>253348932
>Lucina is in
>Robin is in
>Cap is back
All is well. Cry more gematsufags.

>>253362374
It's still pretty ridiculous
I feel like everyone was ready to get rid of even the semi-clones like lucas, falco and ganondorf
to have all of their specials luigi-fied and there to no clones, and everyone would have unique move sets, but then sakurai throws in a newcomer who is a pure clone sharing the exact same moves with another character

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>>253362648
>Pac-Man literally most iconic video game character of all time,

and Smash Bros. is a fighter featuring Nintendo characters or characters that have history with Nintendo. Is Pac-Man either of those? This isn't fucking MUGEN.

>Megaman
Good third party rep that makes sense.

>Sonic
Good third party rep that makes sense.

>Pac-Man
Only in because Namco is helping to develop this game and asked for it, likely in an attempt to make him relevant again.

People have pretty much already forgotten he's in the game, people are hyped for Megaman in this game and were hyped for Sonic in Brawl but who the fuck cares about Pac-Man being in this game?

>WAAAAAH! CLONES!

So because you lost the Gematsu excuse you guys had to latch on this as your new way to shit up Smash threads?

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>>253362767
Did you play her game anon?
Of all Fire Emblem girls she is probably the one that isn't defined by her sex. She is like tutorial Lyndis (sub in steppes warrior for knight) up until the epilogue.

>>253362376
The leak is old as fuck.
They changed the character involved to fuck with the rumor.

Its why Lucina is just a reskin and probally why Ike got back in.

Hell, even Chroms dialogue made it sound like a kick to the face

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>>253362779
>celebrates a clone
>"I could care less about Lucina." - Me

Cry more, Gematsufag.

>>253362825
Would it surprise ANYONE if Shulk got in? The Weebs and Japs love him equally for some god forsaken reason and if Lucina can get in 'cause waifufags, weebs and Japs love the fuck out of her then Shulk has legitimate chances.

Since the Gematsu Leak got debunked, though, I'm willing to expect the worst.

>>253362920
Oh, you've played it? Tell me how it is. Spoilers, if you will, I'll never play that shit.

>>253363020
Nigga I just wanted Chrom in

Getting cock blocked by his daughter ain't cool

>>253362257

>Implying Sakurai didn't play as a girl

>>253362734
I didn't say I didn't expect him to be in the game. The fact that it seems like it was unfortunately an obvious choice does not mean he deserved to be in this game.

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>>253362524
>You
Fair point. I have faith he'll make Hades interesting though, if he does get announced.

>>253363009

everyone but you m8
but who am I kidding, you apparently like Sonic more than Pac-Man so you're clearly some deviantart fur-faggot
fucking kill yourself degenerate

>>253362856
Confirmed for never arguing for a character not on the Gematsu leak against leakfags
>>253362490
He said that they were 'scrapping the bottom of the barrel' for newcomer trailers. We just got two newcomers in one trailer. Fuck off.

>>253362668
I don't play Fire Emblem.

>>253363009
Pac Man is practically the grandfather of videogames, anyone with a brain was expecting him in this game even without Namco's involvement after Megaman got in.

Gematsu leak was Sakurai all along

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>>253360960
1-7

>>253362887
>there will still be unlockable

And guess what? The unrevealed Brawl characters were mostly clones. The writing's on the wall

Enjoy yourhype train or whatever. You'll need it for when the rest of the roster is a letdown

>>253363020
>Why can't I post my delusional wishlist in peace?

>>253363192
They're scrapping the bottom of the barrel alright. Get hype for Toon Zelda

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>>253348932
Chromfags deserved it. They've been insisting for months that Chrom was guaranteed and insulted anyone who thought otherwise.

>>253363069
>Would it surprise ANYONE if Shulk got in? The Weebs and Japs love him equally for some god forsaken reason and if Lucina can get in 'cause waifufags, weebs and Japs love the fuck out of her then Shulk has legitimate chances.

So why are you suddenly agreeing with everything I said?

>>253363062
You're literally talking out of your ass now, m8.

>>253363183
>everyone but you m8

No, seriously. His announcement was underwhelming as fuck. Remember how hype everyone got for Megaman at E3 in 2013? That type of reaction was nowhere to be seen for Pac-Man at this E3.

>>253363009
Just because you don't care doesn't mean suddenly no one else does.

>>253363135
And who are you to determine who "deserves" to be in the game? Get over yourself.

You now realize that since Lucina is basically a sort-of Time Traveler, this means she actually came from the future to change the past.

And in the original future, Chrom beat Falcon and got into the roster.

So thanks to time travel shenanigans, Lucina changed errything. She is the vidya version of Trunks.

>>253359910
>Snake

Get the fuck out of here

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>>253363280
You're missing out!

>>253363329
>And guess what? The unrevealed Brawl characters were mostly clones.
Is this brawl? No.
>Enjoy yourhype train or whatever. You'll need it for when the rest of the roster is a letdown
I am already, Lucas has more possibilities, I finally got one of my most wanted newcomers confirmed and now I just wait for ridley

That fucking chorus shit will still get in though even if the leak was fake

>>253363062
How is it old as fuck when the leaker had time to change the information. Like I said, he said that Shulk would be the reveal the MORNING OF the announcement. Stop trying to salvage the leak and just accept that its a dud.

Also, it was old it doesn't help the rest of the characters listed alongside Chrom.

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>>253362648
>Pac-Man literally most iconic video game character of all time

Not only does that title belong to Mario, but nobody gives a shit about pac-man.

>>253363394
Megaman was revealed at the end of the highly anticipated first ever look of Smash 4, Pac Man was revealed in a closed conference with people reading blogs to keep up with what was happening.

>>253363192
You have no proof of this but I did for Ridley and Krool.

The former at least is too big to be left out yet fucking again

>>253362346
>>253362589
And?

He worked on Dragon Age II. I find him reprising work far more believable than "Hurr Durr April Foolz"

>>253363329
So are you gonna get over this or are you just gonna be a faggot in every Smash thread for the next two months?

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>>253363432
hey

>>253363329
You are pathetic.

>>253363297
>Pac Man is practically the grandfather of videogames,

and this is relevant to him being in Smash Bros...how?

> anyone with a brain was expecting him in this game even without Namco's involvement after Megaman got in.

Holy shit, reading comprehension. Nowhere did I say I didn't expect him to be in this game. That doesn't change the fact that he was a completely worthless addition and it just boggles my mind how people are complaining about actual Nintendo characters being in, like the ones from Fire Emblem, Rosalina or Palutena but no one is bitching about Pac-Man.

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>>253363429
>vidya version of a videogame character

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>>253363594

The point was that he already talked about being in DA:I before making that ominous other tweet you illiterate buffoon.

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>>253363429
Jeez. What a...

Cunt.

I kinda wanna see a comic where Chrom finds out about this and commits seppuku to fuck her over like a douche.

>>253363121
>Getting cock blocked by his daughter ain't cool
It's perfect. Crom would be proud.

>>253363573
Nobody gives a shit about Pac-man but you, bro.

Haven't played the latest FE and I have no idea what game Robin or his sister is from. Is that dude on the ground in the game as a character somehow? Like is he a clone of Lucina like the male/female Robin?

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>>253363149
It could go either way, honestly. If he can make Palutena look fun to play then I'd imagine he'd do Hades justice.

My bets are on him being another element, like a boss or announcer. Man, I'd kill for a Hades announcer, that'd be friggin' great. Loved his VA in Uprising.

>>253363362
>So why are you agreeing with me?
It's not obvious? I'm not naive. Sakurai's going to pander to the Japs first and foremost, and again, they love Shulk, so it won't surprise me one bit.

At the same time, is it that much of a stretch to expect Xenoblade music? Again, the picture's CLEARLY posted from the music room, which they've shown off during the Greninja Direct. It could've simply been there for inspiration or something, and Sakurai's not typically the one to post 'hints'. It's anyone's guess, though.

>>253363821
I don't give a shit about him either, but saying he doesn't deserve to be in is just silly. It's fucking Pac Man, that's all I should have to say on the matter.

>>253363509
>Is this brawl? No.
>It'll be different this time I swear!

>now I just wait for ridley
The delusion is more serious than I thought with this one

I'll always be grateful for the month we had without you fucks ruining Smash threads

>>253363669
I'm not the one stupid enough to hope for Isaac to be in the game

>>253363584
Well, you must have known that they were insisted on those three being the last newcomers and wouldn't hear anything else. I'm hoping for K. Rool as well and he has a great chance.

>>253363405
>And who are you to determine who "deserves" to be in the game?

It's been a hot button topic throughout the entire development of this game. How many times have you seen someone bitch about a new addition to this game not deserving enough to be in the game?

I just don't get how people are making these complaints for actual Nintendo characters but aren't making the same ones for Pacman when if you're going to complain about ANY character not being deserving it's him, because he's only in the game based on very flimsy reasoning.

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>>253358680
>watching Gematsu Defenders go full backpedal

That's my favorite part

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>>253363638
>like rayman a lot since i was a kid
>want him in smash but know it will never happen
>see this abomination
Fucking Ubisoft.

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>>253363970
Atleas ridley has more chances than shulk and chorus men

>>253348932
im just glad roy with a vagina and marth awakening clothes is in

>>253363558
Confirmed not alive in the 80s.
My fucking 90 year old Grandparents Recognize Pac Man.
You fail to realize how big Pac Man Fever was.

>>253363905
That'd be fantastic, but id settle for something else;
Hades: The stage

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>>253363970
The Gematsu leak is dead and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it but shit around in every Smash thread.

>>253364089
Only because of that theory suggesting stage bosses will be playable

>B-But two Ridleys

Only Other M shit is getting in this game

>>253347232
I called bullshit on the gematsu leak ages ago.
Rosalina BTFO the leak first anyway.

>>253363863
Robin is the protagonist, he can be male or female so that's why you can choose the gender in Smash Bros. too. The dude on the ground is Chrom, Lucina's father.

They look so close in age because the latest Fire Emblem has a time travel mechanic that involves Child Units, so that Lucina is from the future

>>253364139
pretty easy way to tell who is underages around here. Anyone who claims Pac-man isn't the most iconic videogame character worldwide and of all agegroups literally can't be old enough to post.

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>>253364043
Well, I get you, but I'm not complaining about anyone.

>>253363932
He doesn't deserve to be in. He's not a Nintendo character. He didn't debut on a Nintendo console. He's not popular. And he's got no affiliation with Nintendo one way or the other.

The only reason he's still around is because Namco keeps digging up his corpse every 5 years.

>>253364236
Hail the clones, brother

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>>253364239
>only skyward sword shit is getting in this game

>>253354539
Hades is an assist trophy I think.

Because he did.

He removed Chrom at the last minute to try and make the leak seem fake.

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>>253364236
>HAHAHA YOU FAGS WILL NOT ONLY GET YOUR OBVIOUS PICKS BUT THERE'LL BE EVEN MORE CHARACTERS TOO

Wow, I feel so blown out right now.

>>253364265
thanks

Is the latest FE any good?

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>>253364239
>two ridley's
>theory
And what garantees you that metroid will only get stuff from other M? Brawl got stuff from fusion, prime and zero mission

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>>253364370
>He's not popular

He's more well known than fucking Mario

>>253364448
That was never the case with the TP Link design. Metroid has been exclusive;y other M from day onw

It also helps that the Zelda franchise is actually relevant right now

>>253364539

That's new super mario

>>253364464
Nevermind it's Magnus.

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>>253364159
Where Hades just kinda lazily slaps and punches at the stage, shoots lasers at it, just kinda mucking around with the fighters. Then when he's tired of it he inhales and swallows the stage.

Afterward you're assaulted by a charging Hades' heart and a number of Underworld enemies sucked in during the transition. If someone defeats the heart, it explodes as stage boss elements are want to do and the stage - and its fighters - are coughed up.

From that point the stage resets its cycle.

>>253364464
Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

>>253364480
>implying Sakurai would drastically change his development cycle in a kneejerk reaction to the leak

Uh huh. Pic related.

>>253364139
So because geriatrics know who he is he's the most iconic video game character ever?

Thats some really fuzzy logic you have there.

>>253364539
NSMBU

>>253364539
That's the background for the NSMBU stage.

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>>253364370
>And he's got no affilation with Nintendo one way or the other.

>>253363573
People are STILL hyped about Megaman. When I went to that thing at Best Buy literally every match had a Megaman in it and I'm not using that for emphasis. The setting would only matter for the initial reaction. Megaman being in the game gets people excited, Pac-Man's reception has been pretty lukewarm.

>>253364591
Because Japs actually liked all the fanservice in Other M

He's already a stage boss. You're just coping with it by taking your frustration out on people who had reasonable expectations for the game

>>253364664
No, but literally fucking everyone does. Every age group recognizes him.
Pac-Man caused a fucking economic crisis. That's how big it was.

>>253364603
No, he's not.

>>253347740
Heh, someone screencapped my post.

Nice.

>>253364664
His logic is that even people who don't play video games and are far from the target demographic know who Pac Man is. I agree with him, you reek of underage.

>>253364603
he isn't
Type videogame character and mario would be the first option and suggestion

>>253364836
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/230474/pac-man-the-most-recognisable-game-character/

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>>253364370
The most iconic video game character ever didn't deserve to be in? Are you shitting in my cereal right now?

>>253364404
>clones
>only a new one confirmed
Gamatsufags leave /v/ for once, you are ashaming yourself more than you have

>>253361462
>it's still very likely that there will be some sort of Rhythm Heaven rep in the game.

Why?

>>253364650

It would explain why he added an incredibly obvious clone, instead of a alt costume for Marth.

I bet she originally was an alt costume, he added one or two moves, and made up that bullshit rule in the pic of the day to make it seem legit.

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>>253364946
>2009

>>253365027
Confirming a clone this soon before the game's release is a new low for even Sakurai.

You're crazy if you think she's anywhere near the last one

>>253365000
>The most iconic video game character ever didn't deserve to be in?
but ,ario is already in

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>>253364139
>People who won't actually buy the game recognize him, that's enough justification for him to be in Smash Bros.

Very few people who want to actually play this game wanted him as a playable fighter. I guess if Halo becomes a multiplatform title, but still never ends up on a Nintendo console Master Chief would still have justification to be in Smash Bros, because he's recognizable.

>>253365207
Pac-Man's been on plenty of Nintendo consoles you mouth breathing child.

Pac-Man Vs was even made by Shigeru Miyamato and his A-team, and they got Charles Martinet to do voice work for the game. But you might not have heard of this game since it was made before you were born.

>>253347754
HOLY SHIT he did

>>253365000
>The most iconic video game character ever didn't deserve to be in?

If he doesn't have anything to do with Nintendo? No, he doesn't.

This isn't MUGEN. It's as stupid as Snake being in Brawl, and I fucking love Snake but he shouldn't have been in that game. Being in because Kojima begged Sakurai for him to be in the game because his son wanted it is very flimsy reasoning for him being included.

what the fuck is BTFO

>>253365207
There are a fuckload of PacMan games on Nintendo Systems. Haven't you ever played Pac-Man World?

>>253365207
You just don't understand the impact Pac Man had. Pac Man has had games on Nintendo consoles. He's arguably the most famous gaming icon, practically in his own league. Master Chief is literally nothing compared to him and Mario.

>>253365348
>Pac-Man's been on plenty of Nintendo consoles you mouth breathing child.

He's not known for being on Nintendo consoles, he's an arcade hero.

When I think Pac-Man I certainly don't think "Nintendo".

>>253347754
HOLY SHIT
you're fucking right. He only opens his eyes later in the trailer

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>>253365171
Yellow Ghost from find mii is an enemy too, is there a find mii rep? No, only a stage, and the mii's have the smash icon

>>253365606
>but the icons!

Holy shit how fucking hard can you reach?

>>253365606
>Miis aren't a find Mii rep

>>253361586
A Morgan alt would be cool.

>>253365536
Pac-Man is what inspired Nintendo to go into the arcade business. They'd still be making hanafuda cards otherwise.

Also "on consoles." What?
Nintendo didn't start with the NES. They started with arcade games like Donkey Kong

>>253365536
I don't think of Nintendo when I think of Megaman either.

>>253365606
>Miis are not a rep for Find Mii!

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>>253364370
Same could be said for a certain third party character that only got in to advertise an upcoming game on a then-doomed competing console. There have been 5 Metal Gear games on Nintendo consoles to this date. Pac-Man has 5 games on the NES/Famicom alone.

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>>253365682
it applies, get fucked gematsufag
>>253365710
>>253365792
Find mii has a crown as icon

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>>253365606
>Is there a Find Mii rep?

Umm... Yeah? It's your Mii.

Dumbass

>>253365513
>You just don't understand the impact Pac Man had.

I do, but it was decades ago. He's barely relevant now. Him simply being recognizable because of something he did many years ago isn't enough justification for him to be in this game. Sure, my dad recognizes him, is he going to bitch if he wasn't ever included in a Smash Bros. game? Of course not, because he's never going to actually play the game anyways.

Him having a few Nintendo games doesn't mean anything, he isn't known as a Nintendo character or having any affiliation with Nintendo. You even mentioned him being recognizable, but when people recognize him do they think of Nintendo? No, they don't. They think of the time they played him at an arcade.

>>253365873
>Miis aren't reps for Find Mii

>>253365536
>When I think Sonic the Hedgehog I certainly don't think NINTENDON'T

>>253365873
Why the hell do the Mii Fighters have the Smash icon, anyway? It's fucking retarded. They're not representing smash, they're representing themselves.

>>253365536
Pac-Man is relevant to Nintendo simply by being the most relevant character to video games period. A true icon, worthy of standing among other true icons. It's not a stretch to say that before there was Mario, there was Pac-Man.

>>253365960
apprarently not
deal with it

>>253365606

I dunno, uh could it possibly be Miis?

You know, the main characters of Find Mii?

Nah, forget it. I'm just sprouting nonsense.

>>253365947
>Barely Relevant now
Neither is Captain Falcon, but I'm sure you'd be be pissed if he was gone.

>>253364918
I literally just google image searched "video game character"

The first image of a singular character was Donkey Kong. Huh.

>>253365536
you really don't understand the impact Pac-Man had on video games, and especially on Nintendo.

Miyamoto attributes the creation of Mario to Pac-Man. Look it up. One of his famous quotes is "My favorite video game character is not Mario, it's Pac-Man."

>>253361935
>implying
>based Mac
>based Pac
>the Falcon is back
>Marth but with a rack
Nice try Chromfag, but your hand just got a smack.

>>253365840
Yes, you pointed out the Pac-Man example from the previous game.

>Sonic/Megaman
Good choices for third party reps

>Snake/Pac-Man
Bad choices for third party reps.

And Metal Gear is one of my favorite series too.

>>253366007
Miis appear on the stage

>>253365994
They're getting original designs for Smash. It's not like a bunch of Wii Sports references

>>253357869
>>253358680
Not to mention the fact that there was apparently debate over cutting Lucas or Ness 3 moths before release. Gematsu cultists are shit

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151KB, 1440x810px

>>253365873

You're seriously fucking arguing right now that an icon of an unrelated character deconfirms another character harder than it is confirmed by an enemy from its own game.

I mean WOW.

>>253366090
>I'll keep saying I'm right without trying to justify myself
Do you like not being taken seriously?

>>253366039
I wouldn't, actually. But at least he's a Nintendo character.

>>253366128
The Mii's originated on the Wii console, they should get a Wii icon.

>>253366090
Miyamoto once directed a Pac-man game and wanted him in Brawl

>>253366090
>Sonic
>Good choice

>>253366169
HE can be confirmed as a stager or trophy
>>253366128
but then why the mii's don't have their find mii icon?
They must represent it, not smash

>>253366040
Huh.
It goes
>DK
>Mario riding Yoshi (Fuck you that counts)
>Ezio
>Cloud Strife
>an Orbital from Halo
>Samus
>Bowser
>Pikachu
>Snake

huh.

>>253366090
I agree he's not iconic AS A NINTENDO character, but he is (or was) an iconic game character. Unlike Snake, Pac-Man has had dozens of games on Nintendo consoles, but Pac-Man is the last person I would think of if someone mentioned "third party character who's had games on Nintendo consoles". I'd sooner call off the Little Samson guy before Pac-man.

>>253347232
>People still believing in leaks

You retards don't know how secretive is Nintendo all these years?

Lucina was chosen because Sakurai said he want's to have more female characters this time around.

>>253365982
For a good while Sonic was only on the gamecube, even if they were ports of dreamcast games.

Then the downwards slope he was in became a cliff and we got shitty multiplat games till unleashed which was mediocre at best.

I definitely associate him with Nintendo more now, as someone who grew up playing genesis. Sega's consoles have been dead for a very long time.

>>253366318
>but then why the mii's don't have their find mii icon?
>They must represent it, not smash

They represent every single game Miis have ever shown up in including Find Mii

>>253366318
>but then why the mii's don't have their find mii icon?

Why did the Super Mario World stage in Melee have the Yoshi icon?

Mario confirmed for not in Smash.

Miyamoto frequntly states he would never have been in the vidya business if not for Pac-Man. It is Miyamoto who put him in the game.

http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/04/super-smash-bros-wii-u-pac-man-thank-shigeru-miyamoto/

Pac-Man is a huge part of Nintendo's story and transformation from a toy company to a game company

>>253366041
>you really don't understand the impact Pac-Man had on video games

No, I do. You just don't appear to understand that it's very flimsy reasoning for him to appear in this game for characters that are either created by Nintendo or have a significant attachment to them. Going by your logic Pac-Man could be included in literally any game regardless of how well he fits or not.

>>253366456
Except for how Pac-man pushed Miyamoto into making games. Fuck off, retard.