We should have a Tales thread.
Talk about plot and stuff.
Who's the best Tales girl, and why is it Tear?
Get the fuck out.
Y'know, I really love Sheena and her story. But her backstory is kind of stupid.
>Hey, let's send the 9 year-old to go fight and capture an angry summon spirit.
>OH SHIT VOLT IS KILLING US ALL BECAUSE IT GOT PISSED AFTER SHEENA TRIED TO PACT WITH IT
>THIS IS ALL CLEARLY THE LITTLE GIRL'S FAULT
The people of Mizuho are dumb.
I actually just started playing Tales of Symphonia with my best bud recently. The game is a lot harder than I remember. He has a save file that has the game previously beaten, does that increase the difficulty?
Also Raine gives me a boner for some reason.
As much as I love canon Lloyd and Colette, I really wish he was in love with Sheena.
I think for Lloyd you do like a mix because demon fang picks up people off the ground after you use beast or something
Fuck if I know, I played the game when I was 15.
>Rent ToS multiple times as a kid
>Sheena's my favorite character
>The game pretty much railroads you into ending up with Colette unless you actively try to piss her off
>End up renting the game again and going through a FAQ on how to fuck around with relationship values
>Play through the entire game again and manage to wife up with Sheena
I regret nothing
I'm surprised none of the other Tales games did the whole relationship thing
Very well said.
But Sheena is better.
It's better than most people give it credit for
The characters/plot are hit or miss with people but give it a chance, you might like it
Look at this faggot, I bet he likes Luke.
>Who's the best Tales girl
I just wish he wasn't so blasted dense about it
Yeah but then again in Tales of Symphonia 2 you can literally make any romance decision you made go right out the window
I keep hearing about how awesome Destiny DC is, but I keeps crashing on PCSX2 when I go in between loading zones.
Does anyone have a fix? I already checked the game fix in the settings and it doesn't help
>it just subverts expectations
So, what you're saying is that Abyss is a Tales game? Gotcha.
>turns out he's alive
>can't reclaim him as a summon
>stuck with having to put up with that shitty Over Limit mode to summon spirits
you know what I found especially annoying was how quickly her deal with volt was swept under the rug.
She loses her best friend, over comes horrible past trauma and once it's all said and done she gets a single skit for people comforting her. Collette doesn't even say anything about it.
More to the point for as much as a main character Lloyd is Sheena's the one doing all the heavy lifting plot wise.
She's the one forming pacts
She's the one proving her worth through tests of valor and combat
She's the one who over came her past
and despite all theses the game does seem to go out of the way to downplay this while upping Lloyd and Collete because of...reasons
That's not what a deconstruction is, stop listening to TV Tropes. A deconstruction of video games would have to draw your attention to the constraints the medium imposes on the art itself.
Her name is Mysteariaca. The only reason she isn't worst girl is because her game was so shit it managed to introduce that affront to mankind known as Anise.
She's hot but she's a completely shit character, I'm sorry anon
Natalia's pretty awful.
>Im going to ignore the guy a grew up with for 7 years because I made a promise to a guy I havent seen in that amount of time and last time I did he tried to stab me in the face
I bet you're the guy that posts all the lewd of her in every thread
This cunt is supposed to be 27, looks at least 40.
>Sheena's the one doing all the heavy lifting plot wise.
I noticed this too, actually. I think this may be what endeared me to her so quickly. She's lovable, AND she's getting shit done.
Sheena is mah nigga.
No, I'm not him. But I'll post the one lewd Anise picture I have, since you asked.
Shit taste detected, but enjoy
I like Lloyd I really do he's a cool guy but really the most he does is spout of some idealist sentiments that basically everyone else shares anyways and we're supposed to accept him as the big hero and the only the game does this is by downplaying the others to absurd lengths.
>I'm a powerful general of the world's central government at the age of 13
>I'm a jewish slut who only cares for money!
>I'm going to give you shit at every occasion!
>I'm going to repeatedly betray you!
>I'm a qt loli who fights with a stuffed animal, so kawaii and original!
>even though I'm literally a traitor I'm still going to give you shit, Luke, and you're just going to sit there and take it!
>I have the most annoying voice outside of Mieu
Christ, how awful. I pity you pedofags who are obliged to like her since she's the token loli, every other Tales game has a better one. The worst part is she's the most powerful character so you're losing out if you bench her.
>She loses her best friend, over comes horrible past trauma and once it's all said and done she gets a single skit for people comforting her. Collette doesn't even say anything about it.
Man I forgot about all of this. Maybe Sheena is better for Lloyd than Colette.
you know Im able to over look all of that, ALL OF IT.
but what really sets her over the edge for me is the Arietta shit.
>Arietta wants revenge for Ion
>Instead of telling her the truth that her Ion wasn't the same one or whatever she agrees to a death match and kills her
and they justify it by by saying was her first decision she made her self. Even though it was based on lies and misinformation. They could have at least TRIED to have Anise tell her and if she didn't want to believe it would be on her. but they didn't. They just killed her.
Lloyd is fun because he's the Ur-Shonen. He's an idiot to the point that even the other stupid anime characters notice, he's a hothead to the point he repeatedly inconveniences the team, but he does his level best and knows when to step back and let his more qualified friends make decisions. He's just a regular blue collar guy who happened to wind up saving the world,
and that's why he's best Tales protag
>a serious analysis of the plot reveals that Sheena is the true hero of the story
>her main ability is next to useless in gameplay because Overlimit mode instills an unnecessary drawback
There is no fucking justice in the world, I swear. Summoning already eats up a huge amount of TP, so why do I have to get hit a hundred times and HOPE that stupid black aura appears? Come on!
I honestly hoped it was a Kratos/Zelos situation and I could let Anise die and get Arietta instead. She was shitty too but at least she had an excuse.
And then you murdered a child because why not. We edgy WRPG player now.
>tfw you break the rule of "No costumes/Accessories" tryhard story first play through for the best Tales girl
Feels good man.
It's more MISS than hit. Also going with that analogy, there sure as fuck ain't no CRITS when it comes to Abyss.
>wants to talk about plot
>not using the best girl
Lloyd is generally better with T
Go S with Colette so you can get Para ball and shit
Genis is a shit and nobody cares
Raine's heals are better on the T side, her buffs and are better on the S side, and she also gets Holy Lance
It doesn't really matter for Kratos/Zelos and Sheena
Go with T for presea on everything but the Devastation artes
Regal should go full T
>Plus his blinding optimism and absolute REFUSAL to say die is what keeps the party together
that's a fair point and he is kind of why everyone is in the party together at all. but I just wish he actually had something that made him unique outside of his mom issue which let's be frank was ultimately pointless
Did someone say plot? It's a shame Agria had so little backstory.
>Genis is a shit and nobody cares
He is just that isn't he.
I don't think Ive seen a worse sidekick.
He gets Lloyd exiled then spends the rest of the game shitting on him constantly. every other word out of his mouth is "lloyd your so stupid" or "Lloyd your only good for fixing shit"
good natured ribbing is all well and good but this shit goes too far especially when he should be incrediably remorseful about ruining the dudes life
I think Genis, story wise, is there to sympathize for Lloyd and Preciea, and vice versa. Almost the voice of reason, or humanity. He did become kind of relevant with the whole half-elf problem in the other world (Sorry I forget the name)
Nah, I thought she was pretty
>Raine constantly smacking him
I'd say he received proper punishment. She certainty smacks him hard enough.
>I think Genis, story wise, is there to sympathize for Lloyd and Preciea, and vice versa.
well if he was there to Sympathize for Lloyd then he fucked up big time because part of Sympathizing is NOT BEING A DICK TO THE PERSON YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO SYMPATHIZE FOR! He's a brat and Raine should be ashamed
Depends on the version, though. Can't use the Tech Glitch on the PS2/3 version.
Otherwise I would've recommended keeping fierce demon fang/demonic chaos and para ball/hammer rain
Like I said I do like Lloyd, it's hard not too, Id very much hang with the guy but all his specialness seems either token hero stuff or at the expense of the rest of the party.
I don't want the game to become Tales of Sheena
Not fully anywaysbut when the side characters are pulling the weight of the main story then I think there's a problem.
We spend more time telling Collette to stop apologizing than we do helping Sheena overcome the death of her only friend and the fact that said loss was because she was helping the party and the person who it was all for doesn't even acknowledge it.
You go right to rescue Collete and it's all
I don't think Sheena or anyone should blame or be mad at Collette but I do think it's absurd that Sheena is basically forced to get over such a loss in five minutes and Collette can't notice that Sheena looks down and Corrine is missing.
it doesn't have to be a huge scene it can even be another skit but give me something.
Sheena got to be a major plot element. There's really no room to complain about not getting enough focus when poor Regal exists.
I always thought Sheena was supposed to be hiding her hurt really well and the only reason we know about it is because it's being made obvious for us as the audience. It never seemed like a case of getting shafted on screentime to me, just a facet of her character.
>Sheena got to be a major plot element.
She did but it just felt like they where upping Lloyd and Collette at every turn despite her doing the bulk of the work load.
>I always thought Sheena was supposed to be hiding her hurt really well and the only reason we know about it is because it's being made obvious for us as the audience.
I agree that's very in character for her but I also think it's no something that Collette or the others wouldn't take notice of and falls back to my comment on Lloyd being denser tha a neutron star
>It never seemed like a case of getting shafted on screentime to me, just a facet of her character.
I just would have liked to have seen more pay off if you say took her at Flanoir. Instead we got
>Hurpa durpa we're good friends
Which is ONE THING I will gladly give credit to ToS2 for fixing if nothing else
>There's really no room to complain about not getting enough focus when poor Regal exists.
yeah Regal and to a lesser extent Presea kind of just felt like filler, for any thing I have to say about Sheena get shafted they got it far worse
>He wasn't even going to go to trial.
made sure of that
Huh. Never thought about it like that before.
I guess Sheena is best girl.
Still the worst in gameplay though.
she does have that perfect combination of vulnerable innocence you want to protect and stone cold 10/10 uber hottie that you want to motorboat
probably doesn't even realize just how amazingly attractive she really is so she'll wear stuff like this and not think twice but when you actually hit on her she'd get embarrassed and nervous
I really like her design. Namely the bra. The white just somehow fits with her overall outfit and it's not just her tits hanging out. Simple, but still distinct.
Also, called her cute when I found her playing with those kids. Why is there still no Tales of Dating sim?
It's an incredibly polarizing game, so just play and see for yourself.>>252997573
>Mfw Namco high had no tales girls
>Mfw no Soul Calibur girls
>>Mfw no Soul Calibur girls
they've even begun benching them
Who? Oh. Yeah, I get your point.
Reminds me of Drakengard and how the creator initially based the plot and characters off his hatred for girls like Colette. I don't hate her, but she's not a character I'd say I really like. The dog naming was cute though.
I wish I could switch Pascal's voice to Japanese and just have her as the only one speaking nip. I can't pinpoint the annoying mascot for Graces. It's either Pascal or the turtle people. I mean, so far only 1 has spoken aloud. So I can just ignore them for the most part. She was alright in the beginning, but the genki, acting like a 7 year old just got old real fast. Doesn't help the things she says aren't charming at all. It's just annoying. Teepo was less annoying than her.
>God I fucking hate Colette. In fact I hate all the "princess" type characters in these games who win out for no reason other than being....umm..something
Don't get me started on princess types, Senel you goddamn idiot
Senel was just like lol wtf dude.
IGN summed up Legendia best:
The guys look like girls. The girls look like Porn Stars.
I never finished Legendia, having left off at the trail across the heavens. But that soundtrack, even now I still listen to parts of that sound track.
Its like all of Legendia's budget went into making this absolutely epic sountrack while the game itself was bleh.
>The guys look like girls. The girls look like Porn Stars.
how is that not applicable to like almost every JRPG ever.
and porn star really? Chloe's a hottie but this shit is a far cry from DOA man.
..oh than explains it
it's like I always say, A knight Waifu is the right waifu
>Its like all of Legendia's budget went into making this absolutely epic sountrack while the game itself was bleh.
I am completely willing to emulate Legendia and spend 50 hours on it just because of the music. I might drop it, but at least I could see why it's so ill received.
I kept her benched the entire game. Even when you were forced to play with her I chose Jade.
>I am completely willing to emulate Legendia and spend 50 hours on it just because of the music. I might drop it, but at least I could see why it's so ill received.
You'll drop it by the second half.
>Why the fuck is she wearing a spandex leotard?
Because Sword Rain
>That's fucking awesome
I still to this day can't understand why people like Tales multiplayer.
maybe Im weird but my idea of fun doesn't include watching one guy run around watching story scenes and solving puzzles while I contribute to the odd battle or two
especially for a system that pauses every time you need to open a menu
Reposting the /v/ Tales poll results:
-All options with 1 vote omitted-
Xillia 2 2
>favorite mystic arte
Infernal Suffering 2
Karma (Abyss) 8
Ring a Bell (Vesperia) 5
Song 4 U (Xillia 2) 5
Fag (You) 3
Key to My Heart (Destiny 2) 2
Progress (Xillia) 4
Follow the Nightingale (Innocence) 2
You're missing out if you haven't had to coordinate a full party of players on Nightmare mode.
Did a 4 player run on Vesperia and Graces. Shit was so cash.
>especially for a system that pauses every time you need to open a menu
Easy. No items rule. If you want TP then go hit the enemy. Life bottles are only allowed when the Healer goes down.
>maybe Im weird but my idea of fun doesn't include watching one guy run around watching story scenes and solving puzzles while I contribute to the odd battle or two
The story is fun to watch as a group.
Reposting the secondary /v/ Tales poll results
>most recent game
Hearts R 4
>Games you've played
Destiny 2 6
Xillia 2 6
Xillia 2 3
Hearts R 2
Destiny DC 2
>Yuri still top
And this is why he's banned from polls.
Good god she is so generic it's painful to watch any cutscene she's in. Even Laura Baily couldn't save her. Green haired Mitsuru a best, given the selection. Victoria gets little screen time an like 1 boss fight so I can't even think of her as a cool lady mentor like Legretta.
Emeraude is evil, isn't she. I've been predicting every single plot twist thus far, so it's going to happen right?
>Emeraude is evil, isn't she. I've been predicting every single plot twist thus far, so it's going to happen right?
Can't say anything else other then yes you're dead on.
I like her. I think her hate and anger is entirely justifiable.
>just lost her new friend
>another close friend is moving away
>boy she loves doesn't give two shits about her
>beg him not to leave because you are DYING
>he promises he won't' leave you before immediately leaving you.
>did I mention she was DYING?
I don't understand why people hate her attitude. Fuck Asbel.
Personally Im a Rutee fan.
She got the sassy kind of bitchy persona I dig and they actually bothered to you know...give her good qualities to balance it all out.
>I don't understand why people hate her attitude. Fuck Asbel.
we don't hate her attitude, we hate her and Asbel's complete lack of any real personality that doesn't involve them "NOT" being into each other
I said Lloyd was dence? feh Asbel makes him look like a hero in a hentai game
I agree somewhat.
She shouldn't have lost her resentment that early.
Absolutely this. Hubert may be the arrogant nerd with the glasses, but at least he feels like a person. Especially his transition from that kid who peed his pants when scared to being forced into being perfect all the time. Asbel was best as a kid. Cheriawas also best as a little girl. Then they grew up to be anime guy and girl who are the story's main love interests, if you can call it that.
I wish she stayed cold and bitter. Her going back to loving him again was unfortunate.
>H-hands off my husbando!
>N-not like I like him or anything! B-baka!
I kind of liked Mappy, but Im not surprised. I am surprised that Namco actually thought people cared about Him and these characters like they where marvel or sonic or something people actually you know...liked
I mean I had dig dug and I liked it but it wasn't really something I remember discussing at length beyond oh hey is dig dug good, yeah its kind of fun, wanna play duck tales
Yeah, and it still kinda makes me hate Asbel more instead of blaming Cheria. She only forgave himself so fast because of his status as Main Character.
Luke had to fucking earn that shit.
>not making her want Hubert
>not making her fall for an older man like Malik
>not even making her obsess over Richard due to a twisted inferiority complex
Anyone but Asbel jesus.
Graces trying to express friendship without touch balls.
Graces would've been a lot more interesting if it cut down the "I need to protect everyone" bull and more about Asbel making an effort to repair the relationships he destroyed as a kid.
>Luke had to fucking earn that shit.
which is amazing as he did literally nothing wrong beyond listening to his father figure.
I mean really let's break down what happened at the mine.
Luke has zero reason to distrust Vahn
Vahn says to keep something a secret and to help him out
Ion doesn't do his fucking job and opens the door like a sap and gets off scott free
shit goes tits up
Everyone yells at Luke like he sank the damn town on purpose and that he should have told them what he was planning.
here are the people in the party at the point
3 enemy soldiers one of whom broke into his house and tried to kill his father figure and one is called Necromancer.
A rather bro butler but a butler all the same WHO by the way knew exactly who Vahn was
and a spoiled princess who black mailed her way into the group.
yeah Id really trust this group.
what's more is they all flock to Ash's dick even though the guy tried to kill them no less than twice.
there is literally zero way you can turn all this onto Luke logically.
>Graces would've been a lot more interesting if it cut down the "I need to protect everyone" bull and more about Asbel making an effort to repair the relationships he destroyed as a kid.
That would be pretty interesting actually.
Instead we got
>Muh Richard, much Richard.
you find children digging through the snow for a small amount of fuel so they don't freeze to death and Asbel is still
>Guys Richard is the one who's suffering.
I understand not wanting to fight your pal but there friendship was more of a memorable play date than an actual camaraderie
>Graces would've been a lot more interesting if it cut down the "I need to protect everyone" bull and more about Asbel making an effort to repair the relationships he destroyed as a kid.
Fuck yes, I like you.
Remember how everyone played Shinji in 3.0 ?
Same exact thing, it's some weird Japanese cultural thing were it's the societal norm to take on the burden of blame for the good of the rest
Why is Tear so perfect?
Why is there so little good porn of her?
The world may never know.
I want to come all over that hair swoop.
>thighhighs with suspenders
>I didn't say it was all Luke's fault.
>I said that he had to earn the forgiveness of his friends.
I know Im just saying it's hilarious how the guy who has nothing to apologize for had to work to earn back the trust of the people who wronged him
and the guy did heaps of shit wrong had everyone lining up to suck his disco cock.
I don't like Asbel. I really don't like him. I'm at the burnout point and I'm losing my drive to finish.
>Luke has zero reason to distrust Vahn
This. Akzeriuth was harsh, but I don't think everyone should have just up and treated Luke like that. Then again they still thought of him as just some whiny rich kid. But I still felt bad for him.
>Why is there so little good porn of her?
Personality maybe? I know a lot of frigid women get all kinds of porn to be broken, but she's not cold enough to exactly warrant it. Also she's only into shotas, but isn't milf like enough to warrant /ss/
Look, you also have to look at it from everybody else's point of view. He was under a constant barrage of "Don't trust Van" from everyone around him. He acts callous and dismissive of their warnings and it results in thousands of people killed in front of their eyes.
No, in reality, it wasn't his fault. But you have to understand how everybody felt that it was. People aren't seeing "This guy was tricked by his father figure" they're seeing "This spoiled brat told us to go fuck ourselves and now a city is wiped off a map."
It's a two way street.
Im surprised ToS has as few as it does.
The Tales of girls don't really seem like doujin material, with some exceptions. Though there's plenty of genderbent Asbel and Richard for some reason.
Ill allow them the initial outburst, it was an emotional time but once things cooled off even Guy and Tear realized that Luke wasn't really to blame so much
and I have a hard time a complete sociopath like Jade would be unable to look at logically
Glad I'm not the only one who thought so.
>Melon Bikini on Tear's melons
Ahaha, that's great.
>I don't like Asbel. I really don't like him. I'm at the burnout point and I'm losing my drive to finish.
That's how I felt once I hit a little into the adult arc.
>Akzeriuth was harsh, but I don't think everyone should have just up and treated Luke like that.
Considering the fact that they just witnessed the equivalent of 9/11 point-blank which was topped off with watching a little boy scream for help before being melted right before their eyes, I'd say emotions where running a little high.
These are flawed characters and that's the beauty of Abyss. You shouldn't be asking yourself "where these characters right" as much as "where their actions reasonable responses under the circumstances"
it seems to cater to a very different doujin market
how this faggot was so damn popular Ill never understand
>and I have a hard time a complete sociopath like Jade would be unable to look at logically
I don't think Jade really gave too shits about Luke. He wasn't interested in being fair.
Stahn is so much cooler, but pretty and angsty seems to hit the mark with fangirls.
And his death midway through his game still hurts.
I'll repeat what I've always said he's pretty and has a cool battle theme.
ah Stahn, in a surprising change of pace you where and RPG hero who actually
got to go on an adventurewith your waifu
Luke being morally destroyed was one of the best things i've seen in Tales. It doesn't even matter if he had nothing to do with it, really, because unlike most Tales, Abyss characters are more morally grey-ish. The party basically jumped on the opportunity to blame him for everything while Ion deserved the same, for example. And i can't even blame them, long-haired Luke was a spoiled piece of really unattactive garbage.
This is one of the many reasons I hate deviantart. Donut steel everywhere. I've only seen like maybe 3-4 pixiv artists who do this. Everyone else leaves an easy to ignore signature somewhere.
Thing is, I probably have 5-10 hours left of the game. I am almost finished if I ignore sidequests completely. If I stop, I may not go back.
Well, as the player who knows more, my views are unfortunately biased. Though I do see why they were all disgusted.
I really love how destiny changed things up by having the loud, sneaky uber bitch (and I say that in the higest possible regard) be the white mage and the black mage was the mousy shy priestess
I SEE WHAT YOU DID IN THAT SPOILER AND I agree 110%. Fuck it still pisses me off. She's my favorite Tales lady, beating out Tear by a small margin, and she's almost fucking unplayable in combat. Fuck.
That's not being morally gray that's just being a cunt.
there's a world of difference.
just because you made everyone a jerk doesn't mean you write a more "HUMAN" character it just means you wrote a jerk.
eh if all you're interested in is playing the main story she's not so bad
summoning is unreliable but she has a lot of debuffs which are useful and her elemental viability is a god send, she'll be hitting the weakpoint of EVERYONE by end game
>really nice personality, cheerful but not annoying
>fist fighter, not a shitty boring-ass magician ?63405804958, slaps everyone's shit while being in goddamn dress
Best girl? Best girl.
Once again, their actions were completely fair responses considering the circumstances and their knowledge of the situation. "They were jerks" is a completely narrow viewpoint of it.
>He dies before ToD2 though
He gets better though
I liked that in the 'Pet' skit everyone but Alvin said they liked dogs better than cats.
>Once again, their actions were completely fair responses considering the circumstances and their knowledge of the situation.
Only for the moment. At some point in the game they should have realized that they and Ion where equally responsible
Im not mad at them for blaming him or yelling at him, Im mad that they never made effort to change and the game was happy to use Luke as a Scapegoat for the rest of the story.
Emotional outbursts are one thing, refusing to change and grow as characters is another.
>long-haired Luke was a spoiled piece of really unattactive garbage.
uwot? I'll give you the spoiled bit. He was a sheltered child who's only bit of the outside world came from his mentor and sword training. But I find long haired Luke much better than short haired Luke. And even if Akzeriuth broke him, I'd rather him be haughty and rude over "S-sorry guys, also friendship I guess."
>slaps everyone's shit while being in goddamn dress
Why don't more female characters do this?
Cats are better than dogs though.
Luke was a boss about it by the end of the game. A fucking paragon of let bygones be bygones. What irritated me the most wasn't necessarily how they treated Luke, but how they treated Anise after all she'd done, and their willingness to let it all go with minimal fuss.
>Get to secret mission 17
Holy shit this is infuriating
>But I find long haired Luke much better than short haired Luke.
well he did have an actual personality
hell I remember at some point they actually started given him shit for not being like his old self. Whom I remind you they shat on.
Luke couldn't win if he stated shitting miracles
Maybe it's all trivial. But both Tales of Destiny, and the Playstation remake of Tales of Phantasia were being developed nearly side by side.
And Tales of Phantasia was released just under a year after Destiny. And the difference in quality is astounding. Battles are so much faster, everything from running to swinging your sword.
But the biggest offence is the overworld. Just 1 year a part and this is the difference.
he and Judy are just friends, friends who often encourage casual sex
>trying to get Yuri's title where you have to do all the secret missions in one go.
>Luke couldn't win if he stated shitting miracles
I could still see Jade teasing him just for having the ability.
That's what I'm going for right now and I want to die. I love Yeager, but his secret mission is some bullshit
what they needed to do is stop confusing the poor guy.
every time he gets anywhere in any direction they stop him and commence a shitting.
YOUR A JERK! FUCK YOU SHIT!
PUSSY YOUR A GODDAMN PUSSY! YOU WANNA CRY AND TAKE A LADY BREAK!
WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING YOURSELF WORTHLESS YOU PIECE OF DRECK!
I support this.Tales of Brave Vesperia when
the mangas actually a pretty good read
The whole party hated old Luke. He was a source of troubles, he had a really unappealing personality. I can totally see this hatred fueling their reaction towards him after the tragedy. They've made him a scapegoat, sure, and that was a really jerky thing to do. But at the same time it was a pretty realistic reaction. Can you honestly say that you would behave yourself differently if you were in their shoes and seen this situation for the first time?
Would it help if I told you that in Destiny, you cannot change camera angles on the overword? You have no idea whats behind you, beyond what you see on the mini map.
That reminds me of when he stabbed that one soldier. Is there any explanation as to why some of the protags are perfectly fine mowing down armies of men? I know some have the whole "kill or be killed" mentality, but I can't imagine just getting used to the blood and screaming without having a personality shift.
>WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING YOURSELF WORTHLESS YOU PIECE OF DRECK!
I wish Luke just snapped and attacked Acsh until one of them couldn't move and he just yelled off his reasons for feeling like garbage. Even if he got knocked down, he should have just sprung back up and attempted to headbutt him or something. I'd be too scared of Jade, but I think everyone deserved a good, long yelling at.
>Can you honestly say that you would behave yourself differently if you were in their shoes and seen this situation for the first time?
alright I want you to stop and actually listen this time.
Blaming Luke? Fine
Continuing to blame Luke 60 hours into the game? Bad.
the problem isn't that they're blaming Luke, that's normal. The problem is that they're stagnant characters. The most growth you'll get out of any of them is a
>good job Luke you managed to not cock up again you fucking pussy.
I have personally known assholes with a personality similar to Luke's.
And nobody liked him. there were a couple of people who tolerated him sure, but only because if they stayed overnight at his house, his mom would bring home KFC for dinner.
Then one day at school a kid's Game Gear was stolen and almost instantly, people pointed the finger at him.
He didn't do it, he didn't need to, he was rich, and they eventually found the perpetrator but it just goes to show that your attitude can affect your life.
Yeah you can, by using the L&R triggers, simple as that. Tales of Destiny was already dated by the time it was released.
That is the kind of overworld you would see on a launch game in 1994.
In their defense Volt was especially dickish as far as summon spirits went.
Yeah the rest asked for a tussle before hand but none of them showed any of the signs of hostility volt did.
I imagine the worst case scenario they imagined was Volt just wouldn't show up
>Watching the OVA
>This is the person that killed your brother
Sheena... had a hard life.
>good job Luke you managed to not cock up again you fucking pussy.
Pffft. This pretty much.
My two favorite main protagonists are Lloyd and Cless.
Lloyd for his instantly recognizeable voice and strong morals.
And Cless for a herioc, no bullshit attitude. There's no whing or bitching for him. Just getting the job done.
Also Judith is best girl.
>You're missing out if you haven't had to coordinate a full party of players on Nightmare mode.
Man, I would kill for a fully 3D Tales MMO. I don't know how you would make real-time combat work like that on the field though. A MMO couldn't have that battle transitions.
I dunno about some of you, I'm damn excited about Tales of Hearts R.
I played it on my friends Vita because he imports stuff, and legit, It's fucking great having a proper portable Tales.
I'm waiting on the 2K restock to nab a Vita. What about you guys?
Mizuho was much chiller in the actual game. Her problem there was more her own guilt rather than people despising her.
Except that one dude, but he's a cunt so fuck him
they had an army of ninja and the chief with her.
the fight to prove yourself thing wasn't even known at the point, for all they knew she just had to call the fucker out and work out a contract
>There's a fucking namco island in Vesperia PS3?
There's a Namco Island in Vesperia 360. What are you talking about?
>Never coming to the west.
Maybe I'll get a chance to play the translation patch this year....
>which tales man has the best sword
Stahn duh, Dymlos can talk. This isn't even worth discussing
>Continuing to blame Luke 60 hours into the game
It's totally believable. It's not easy to fix someone's attitude towards you when your personality was beyond horrible and your actions had catastrophic consequences (doesn't even matter sometimes if you really was the one who did it or if you did it willingly, basically what >>253014905 said). Some peoples can spend their whole life trying to get better in someone's eyes and they will still bash them with their past.
But I thought ninjas do everything as soon as they can walk and jump 20ft in the air. Anise and Arietta are both in the military after all.
It did before the 3.00 release. I'm sure they'll have a new firmware update for the US release. Vita is dead in the US and it'd be silly not to have one of the bigger releases for it not work.
Also how did the people of Mizuho not know that Volt doesn't speak human languages and you need an elf to translate? How did Raine know when she mostly lived and studied in Sylvarant where Volt doesn't even exist?
I assume it's because the other protags had to kill at least something in their lives before. But Luke, who is new to this dea of killing shit, much less a human being, would understandable be traumatized. >>253013554
Honestly, at least in my view, the reason endgame luke is so good is that he's not an extreme like act 1 or act 2 Luke. He hits a good balance
>He is also weak and replaced just a half hour into the game by a batter sword.
>replacing the swordians
>Not realzing they level up and gain stats as you go
>being this pleb
>Also how did the people of Mizuho not know that Volt doesn't speak human languages and you need an elf to translate?
Volt hasn't spoken to anyone in thousands of years. Thay's easy.
>How did Raine know when she mostly lived and studied in Sylvarant where Volt doesn't even exist?
she's and elf. she speaks elfish.
>It's a special island specific to the Japanese PS3 port of Tales of Vesperia.
No it's not.
>How did Raine know when she mostly lived and studied in Sylvarant where Volt doesn't even exist?
This really bothered me at that part. Unless I missed an explanation or something, Raine translating for Volt came basically out of nowhere
It's simple really. She must have read ancient works from before the two worlds were separated, and she must have assumed that the books were of her world.
Other than that, i have nothing. You probably just opened up a huge plot hole or something.
>Raine translating for Volt came basically out of nowhere
she's an elf. She speaks elvish.
why is this so hard to buy? Really would you be so shocked if you where getting yelled at in Japanese and then your friend Hoshi comes out and starts telling you what the guy wants
>tfw ToD: Director’s Cut english translation never
Stahn is the best protagonist in the series. Prove me wrong.
Oh wait, you can't. His original game aged like milk and the remake still hasn't been translated.
I'm excited. I want to play it. But my efforts to obtain a Vita have been lazy. I have my 360 on craigslist which I put up for trade for a Vita. So far I have gotten responses but my copy of Vesperia is the one thing holding me back from actually sealing the deal. On one hand, I will be obtaining another great Tales game. But on the other, I will be getting rid of my only medium to play Vesperia on.
There is no way i could afford a Vita myself and the Xbox is the only thing I'm willing to give up.
>there hasn't been a Nam Cobanda since Abyss and Vesperia
Going off of the Tales I've played thus far excluding Abyss.
Jude's combat experience stems from home training. Him punching everything to death doesn't seem to phase him at all after the first few fights. Though he is a medical student so the sight of blood and dead bodies shouldn't bother him much.
Milla on the other hand just has little tolerance for bull so if someone needs to be put down, and it can't be helped, she will put them down. Also lord of the spirit mentality.
Asbel trained to be a knight. Understandable. But him being so able to adapt to the battlefield is strange given that his first field mission didn't involve killing humans. You know, people with children as well. Unless there was a special desensitization program going on.
Desians a worst and Lloyd was angry. Makes sense he'd be ok with opening a few stomachs.
I may get one with my left over tuition for school in September. But that is also going to add to my already crazy backlog, because I already have Smash Brothers and Pokemon on pre-order.
Not to mention Lloyd practices his sword play daily, has a special gem on his hand that gives him fighting skills, and he has no issue killing people if it means to defend the innocent.
There is a translation patch in the works, but like the Rebirth translation patch, there hasn't been a update about in awhile.
At least playing Destiny 2 with the menu patch has made the game easier to play.
I don't know, Lloyd's generally a pretty friendly guy. Desian or not I can't imagine him being able to ice dudes in cold blood.
I mean he does but I think it should have been more of a big deal is all
That doesn't work though. Volt doesn't speak elvish, he speaks a language humans just can't understand. That also doesn't change the fact the Raine know she would have to translate what Volt was saying even before they went to see him. So there would have to be some knowledge somewhere that humans can't understand Volt and that the people of Mizuho should have known that.
I think he's a little too friendly for his role. He's still a kid, but at the same time he seems like he should be more hostile. Not cold, but just a bit more curt or aggressive.
I don't have any screenshots. But as far as the Vesperia PS3 localization. I know of two excuses he used. One was that he didn't want to tire out his voice actors or translation team.
And that is kind of strange, because you had no problem tiring out your graces teams I suppose.
What would they call this? Hypocrisy?
And the second excuse I know of, is that he was afraid the PS3 port of Vesperia would not sell well in the U.S.
Well a little back story for Tales of Graces. it was originally released on the Wii in Japan. But they felt that it was an inferior version because of the Wii's low graphical capabilities and it was riddled with bugs.
So they port it to the PS3 and low and behold, it is still filled with bugs. So they recall the game and retract all promotional advertising and re-release it with bug fixes.
And meanwhile in the U.S. people are practically on their knees begging for the PS3 port of Vesperia. And what do we get? A game with a tainted launch, that had to be ported to a whole nother console and sucks.
but oh no, we can't have PS3 Vesperia, because it won't sell a desried amount of copies.
>Volt doesn't speak elvish,
ye olde elvish
>tfw the best sub group never finished United World
>everything else is Duwang bad
>In the game Raine just says it's a language humans can't understand.
and she's an elf and humans no habla tolkien
you're seriously over thinking this
We doing this again?
Just posted since it's something I'd like to see too
Not enough abused husbandos honestly. Prison time is usually just a few punches to the gut. Maybe a gun/sword hilt to the temple.
I started playing the Tales of Destiny remake just recently, and it's pretty fun.
Not the Director's Cut, but I'm just glad to have a chance to play the game.
I've always heard that it was because Microsoft helped fun the localization and there was some legal issues to bringing it to the PS3 in the US as a result.
It kinda makes sense. It was early in the 360's live cycle so they were still trying to push a wide variety of games for it, and ToV did have far and away the best localization quality of any Tales game.
>I've always heard that it was because Microsoft helped fun the localization and there was some legal issues to bringing it to the PS3 in the US as a result.
Nintendo basically DID the TOS one and we got that on the PStrip
Saved. Not over the top guro like many are.
I'm more a fan of seeing the lighter techniques employed, tickling, spanking, fire, electricity, etc. Though some of these aren't too bad.
I don't have too many of these and it's a real shame
so /v/, what's your favorite 'special' boss battle?
i.e. Abyssion, Nebilim, etc.
Pls no. Just seeing people get tickled makes me want to hold my sides. Fire's a bit much for me though. Burn marks aren't pretty.
Hours on pixiv will yield a few. Just chaining someone up is so boring.
Reminds me of what I've heard about masochists who have no problem with going through all sorts of pain, yet can't stand tickling.
Tickling is the worst. It will haunt you and feels downright unpleasant after more than a few seconds. I hate it when my friends poke and tickle me. I end up kicking or punching them if they go too far.
You're terrible anon.
Nigga, Yuri offed Ragou because Ragou avoided having to go to a fair trial at all by acting dumb and playing the authority card. It could even be surmised that Ragou knew he was dealing with Flynn "Bleeding Heart" Schifo and played his hand at the right time.
Guy would have killed even more of his people after he was released.
Ive seen a lot of these threads, is there some new Tales news or something?
>Where'd she get her deviantart fetish outfit from, anyway?
At I SAY GOD DAMN store
>I end up kicking or punching them if they go too far.
And thus why restraints were created
I'm pretty sure if you speak to her (assuming you chose her in flanoir) in that elf village near the end of the game it becomes more clear that a relationship is forming.
Lloyd promises to be with her and she threatens to torture him if he doesn't stay true to it.
>I want doujin where Yuri travels to other Tales universes like Gilgamesh and collects a harem through NTR.
So, he shoots female leads out of portals?