>No more Final Fantasy Tactics >No more Tactics Ogre >No

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We still have the old classics.

Turn based games are a shit.

>Accidentally throw away 1 mission item
>Can no longer 100% FFTA
>Can no longer get Cid

Every fucking time

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>Try to play Disgaea
>2animu4me

The Ivalice games nailed setting and presentation.

>>252195686

Are you me? I couldn't for the life of me figure out why I couldn't advance the game

>>252197374
>>252195686
Which mission item was it that you couldn't advance without?

I don't even remember needing to throw away mission items.

>>252195195
>mfw Princess Concerto which is one of the best SRPG ever made will never ever be translated

>Unsung Story was a scam
Did something happen or is this just general KS hate?

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>>252195195
Every time I want to fire up FFTA again, I remember that it takes like half an hour just to start the first mission.

Same shit goes with Tactics Ogre. Fuck games that force you to go through the stupid intro tutorial every fucking time.

Currently playing through WoTL for the first time. I want to avoid using FAQs... but anyone have any simple advice to get the most out of my playthrough?

How about we create our own TRPG, /v/?

>>252197031
I think Im the only one that knows where your reaction pic is from

>>252199165
Site and forums are dead. No update in months. No responses to direct emails and other communication in months.

It's probably dead. In any case, fuck PlayDek for the way they've behaved. Even if the project is somehow alive, it shows they're a shit company with no interesting in customer relations.

>>252199318
Get the skill "Accrue JP" for 90% less grinding.
Don't be a faggot and have a party comprised entirely of archers.
Monks are amazing.

>>252199331
How about we fan-translate one instead? There's several tactical JRPG waiting to be translated.

was there ever an FFT art book?
also
does anyone have the TO art book in pdf and if so are you willing to share? :3

>>252200139
Archaic Sealed Heat?

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>>252200335

>>252199318
You might want to look up an FAQ before you get to a certain boss battle or is it possible that you won't be able to beat the game at all.

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Super Robot Wars will never die.

>>252200531
I want to cum inside the white mage.

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>>252200531
>mfw I have that poster hanging on the wall in my cottage house room

I feel SRPG gameplay would go well with a persona-style other game that takes place outside of battles

>>252200906
You mean Fire Emblem?

>>252200335
>:3
die

>>252200605
If you're talking about Wiegraf i plan to save often and build up Ramza as a Monk/Ninja... so whatever happens, I'll have a save far back enough that I can grind out the right abilities/class to fight him

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>>252200982
deal with it, faggot

>>252200747
Those toned legs..

I think those are actually armored legwear

but still, those toned legs

>>252201029
Oh ok, carry on then. WOTL is really fun.

Maybe in America. Super Robot Wars is still alive and well in Japan.

>>252200345
I was thinking of Princess Concerto personally.

>>252195195
>Daily reminder that SRPGs are dead.
Ha ha, you wish. SRPG's are now the property of Android and IOS. Filthy casuals are now cumming inside your favorite genre to the tune of $2 a micro-transaction.

>>252201689
What notable SRPGs are there on mobile? TBH ive always wanted to play an SRPG with a touch interface. Seems like itd be so much better for this type of game.

The Ogre series is my single favorite gaming franchise. I'm still devastated that the psp Tactics Ogre didn't seem to revive it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGtdPgbvWeQ

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>>252201338

/m/en! OG3 when?

I still have LUCT to play

>>252201959
>Seems like itd be so much better for this type of game.

Ehh, not really. The first Luminous Arc, a DS SRPG, had all inputs done on touchscreen and even though I enjoyed the game the controls felt awful to me.

>>252195195
what about devil survivor

>>252200139
>fantasy maiden wars 2 will never be translated
>fantasy maiden wars 3 is coming out in a month
I need to learn to read japanese

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>>252195195
>Daily reminder that SRPGs are dead.
Well, no shit. The only popular one left is FE, and we know where that is headed.
>inb4 butthurt posts
Fuck off.

I'm not really upset, though. I still have the games I enjoyed in the past. And hacks that change things up, if I so wish.
>Tactics Advance

>>252199318
One, get the JP boost ability. Two, just fucking play it. It's fantastic.

Do you guys think an SRPG with a shared party HP bar would worK?

>>252203325
>And hacks that change things up, if I so wish
Are FFTA hacks a real thing?

>never played srpgs in the past
>recently discovered that I like them
>have the full library to go through
>but I know the ride ends at some point, and the more I play the closer that is

feels bittersweet, man.

>>252195195
>Unsung Story was a scam
Wait, what do you mean? Can you elaborate?

>>252195301
Oh for fucks sake...
Only two more months of this summer shit...only two more months than toddlers like you will be back in gradeschool and the adults can talk...

>>252203547
Sounds interesting gameplay-wise. I can't see how it'd make any sense, but still.

>>252203547
I have no clue how that would work story wise, but that would be interesting, as it would force you to be more careful with tank characters.

>>252197663
There's quite a few that if you ditch you can't get back. There's 0 indication of what's important and what isn't as well.

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Some situations in Tactics were just silly

>>252201959
The iOS port of FF Tactics is actually pretty decent

>>252204461
>forbidden: fight
I don't know how I managed to win that mission

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>>252204556
>No FF Tactics port on android
>Twewy released 2 years later

Fuck, now I'm just waiting for a crack

>>252203927
>>252204286
I guess what's intriguing to me is that you would have to be more careful with how you position your units -- while spreading out and getting up close to the enemy would allow you a lot of attack points, you also become more vulnerable. I guess the difference between characters with low defense and high defense wouldn't be that one is easier to Knock-Out, but that having low defense means that getting hit will cause more damage to the total HP

but it's a system that would also reward risk, I'd think. I want to try making something like this but I would have to figure out balancing.
I guess the other question is if the enemy also has a shared health bar.

>>252203729
they took everyones money and then haven't done anything more than pop on to reddit once in a while where they talk about everything but the game.

>>252203624
I was referring to just FFT. The reaction image was for FFTA, though.
>captcha: Sir leluag

>>252204779
If both had a shared health bar, I can see the problem: people would never split up the army, because if your opponent surrounded your glass cannon/support characters, they could sit and gang rape them to drain the entire health bar pretty quickly.

>>252204783
So they really have fucked everyone? Or they just haven't updated in awhile. I mean development takes time.

>>252205014
nearly 7 months later and not even a single screenshot. or a single mechanic explained. or anything about the game.

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>Finally get my op as shit team in tactic ogre.
>MFW nothing else to do aside from maximum grind for no reason.

>>252195686
>>252197374
Everyone seems to play RPGs backwards, selling weapons but hoarding potions. It took me until adulthood, but I now know to use my potions when needed and keep everything else just in case.

>>252203837
Go back to your solo chess simulators then dumbfuck. Meanwhile I will be enjoying games that aren't extremely boring, generic, and easy.

Don't worry, we still have the excellent fire emblem series :^)

>>252195195
Isnt the Disgaea series still doing well though?

Also what about that other kickstarter SRPG?

>>252205919
Disgaea's plot is just hard to take seriously and the NISA translation is cringeworthy at times.

>ctrl+f
>shining force
>0 results found
Neo-/v/, I am disappoint.

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Why no more Tactics Ogre? 10/10 designs. I want to lick Canopus

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My literal waifu.
I always imagined her as cool and distant, always away from home to do mercenary work.
Great at cooking meals fit for a troop but it doesn't look pretty or taste all that amazing.
Very awkward in bed.

>>252206287
It died ages ago and when it was finally revived it stayed in japan.

I mean those shining force arpgs on the GBA were pretty awesome, but I miss the srpgs.

>>252206284
I don't think they take the plot too seriously.

>>252206421
Sara? Or the archers in general?

>>252206303
>canopus is in his late forties
Like ohhhhhhhhhhh god damn.
The blind samurai guy is 10/10 hasubando material. I didn't let him join my party the first time I played.

>>252206646
Archers in general (hence the merc work).
Sara was a blonde and actually had a backstory and shit so it's not as fun imagining her.

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>You will never be this fabulous.

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>>252206284
T dont think you're supposed to take the plots in Disgaea seriously anyways, and NISA's translatiion of the past disgaea games were pretty decent though. (havent played D2 yet so I dont know if they have gotten worse)

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>>252206582
They don't

>>252206906
>this is a gun
>check this out
>see that? i just killed that guy!
>here, you can have it

Does Tactics Ogre PSP emulate well? I have it on my memory card but was wondering if there was a benefit to playing on the emulator. Does it look better?

>>252207128
It's better to play it on your PSP.

> All these posts
> Not a single goddamn one mentions the fact that Natural Doctrine is coming out in October in the US

Jeez and I thought the fact that it was being released by NISA was the worst thing going for it. Apparently their utter inability to advertise will be the game's undoing.

>>252202707
OG? Not for a while they have to finish up the Masou Kinshin series first, but f is coming out so expect it in 2-3 years, but remember it will be filled with all the DLC bullshit of Z3 and well... the Masou Kinshin series.

>>252207128
It has some problems in PPSSPP I've heard, but it runs fine on a vita/psp.

>No FFTA3

I just got to the final boss in Phantom Brave and learned just how wide my asshole can stretch.
That's what happens when you breeze through the game and end up at the final boss 20 levels lower than you should be.
How's the post-game content in Phantom Brave? Is Another Marona like the NG+ alternate stories in Disgaea?

>>252199318
>Every time I want to fire up FFTA again, I remember that it takes like half an hour just to start the first mission.
I started to play FFTA recently, emulated on PSP, and I had to go through the start like three times, as the emulator kept fucking up with my saves.

Thank god for speedup feature on emulators, tough.

>>252207283
All of the press around that game was about how broken and overly difficult/broken it was. The NISA localization is just a cherry on top of the shit sandwich.

They are supposed to be fixing a lot of the problems, but I think the damage is done and I don't trust NISA to make the game good.

>>252207283
Never heard of Natural Doctrine or OG.

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Sup'

>>252205701
>assfaggots
>tacticool

>not extremely boring, generic, and easy

You sure showed 4chan, kid.

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I do love me some TO, but OB is superior.
Search your feelings, you know this to be true.

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>>252207873
Who's talking about assfags?

>>252205701
No, you'll be playing League of Legends and the newest COD entry right? Alright then champ, if that makes you feel skilled and popular.

The start of Tactics Ogre has thrown me off a bit. How long until I control every troop instead of just moving once and the NPC's do the rest

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Should I get the PSP/Vita versions of the Disgaea games? Only ever played the PS2 version of 2 and I kinda want to get into this series.

Where the fuck is Advanced Wars 3DS

>>252207989
March of the black queen was one of my favorite games, but I still preferred tactics. It was just so stressful and it felt like if you fucked up early on you couldn't complete the game.

Never played OB64 because no emulator would run it and I never owned a n64.

>>252208161

Like right after freeing the duke, I believe. It's only for a couple of fights.

>>252208161
About the moment you disable AI control.
You did read the ingame tutorial right?

>>252208161
Doesn't take too long. Pretty soon you'll be marching armies around all by yourself.

>>252208161
After the tutorial is over, it's like 2 fights. Make sure you find the free items too.

>>252208304
Advanced Wars is dead (or at least dormant for now)

I think the Project Steam game is its replacement

>>252208313
OB64, to me, is the best in the entire series. If only Lans, both of them, too bad they were tied up in TO.

>>252208313
is the Wii virtual console shop still open since the wifi went down? Isn't OB64 on there?

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>>252208231
You always get the portable versions of Disgaea. ALWAYS. Since they come with all the DLC and features that can't be found in the console versions

>>252195195
You forgot a game, OP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvz30dRE5Yo

>>252206969
>>252207010
>>252206284
Serious or not, the presentation and voice acting makes Disgaea impenetrable for me.

Does this make me shallow? Probably.

Can I skip all the dialogue? Sure, but then why bother?

>>252207545
I'm just holding out hope that It'll be a revision in line with some of the initial patch notes I've seen about it and not just an easy "Halve the enemy HP" release. I'm still hopeful because I've never been able to get into Disgaea and every day it seems that if I want more games I'd better learn Moon.

>>252207602
OG is Super Robot Wars: Original Generation. Primarily Japanese strategy game where you control various Giant robots to defeat evil. Please look it up or go on /m/. I'm just too tired to go into depth.

>>252207710
How do you beat Golems, I made my dude a powerful ass beastlord with a water whip but I am at a point where every hit does 1 damage to golems.

>>252208759
Magic. Archers.

>>252208665
Most times I can agree with this. After all you have to spend the majority of the game listening to the characters talk and if you hate all the characters then why play? Gameplay is the primary focus but you still have to spend time with these characters.

>>252208665
>>252208597
>>252208581
I-I don't own a Wii either.

I never buy nintendo consoles, just the handhelds. I have a GBA, DS, 3DS, PSP, Vita, PS2 and PS3 along with a shitty 7 year old PC.

>>252208341

Nah I like to work things out as I go and I've played enough of these types of games to understand it

>>252208450

What are they? I'm picking up as many of the bags dropping off enemies as I can if thats what you mean

>>252208759
The answer is always archers.

>>252208932
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| Buried (Denam: 5 Steps Left)

>>252208313

Emulators have been running OB64 for a long time. It's just the mission intro screens that are fucked up. They slow down to a crawl but they will still complete, it just takes time.

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Are there any more SRPGs with evil routes like pic related?

>>252208932
>What are they? I'm picking up as many of the bags dropping off enemies as I can if thats what you mean

Almost every map has buried items in them, most aren't real important but can be useful. You can try walking onto suspicious looking squares and hoping to get a buried item otherwise you'd have to look them up in guides.

Probably shouldn't go out of your way to do it until you unlock some of the dungeons that have special items buried in them.

>>252209589
Is that soul nomad?

>>252209330
why exactly does N64 emulation suck so much? Is it just a matter of needing more work and time, or is it just really hard for some reason?

>>252210357
The "microcodes" are entire programs for the Nintendo 64's GPU, so there's potentially an unlimited number of them. It's hard to emulate for two reasons, one is that it's all essentially undocumented, so the emulator writers just don't know what all the individual microcode instructions are supposed to do. The second is that it's designed to be run on a GPU with specialized hardware, and emulated interpretation or recompilation of the microcode on the CPU, like is done for the main N64 CPU, would probably end up being way too slow. The only practical solution is to figure out what each microcode program is supposed to do and use the PC's GPU to do the equivilent operations.

Since most N64 games use one of two different microcode programs, ones who's behavior, if not implementation, was well documented by Nintendo, emulating the N64 GPU for these games is easy. The rest use custom microcode programs whose behavior was never doucmented, and since the documentation for the GPU is poor, it's very hard to reverse engineer what they were supposed do.

I've bought a ps3 not long ago and would like some kind anons to recommend sRPG games for it. I've already finished Valkyria and thinking about getting into Disgaea but not sure where to start.

Also, why are nobody talking about Kamidori? I thought that pretty much was the best sRPG for PC in like forever.

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>>252210291

Yep.

>>252210357
I'm not an expert on emulators, but in my understanding it's just really hard.
If I remember right N64 did some funky things that are just pain to emulate.

>>252202513
Well its not FF what did you spect? SE to care for lesser known but very loved IPs?

Remember Valkyrie Profile Hrist isnt a thing.

>>252198792
Sounds like weebshit so it's probably awful

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>>252195195
Hey OP why dont your try Langrisser 4 or Growlanser 4? Those are pretty good SRPGS with waifus to boot

Devil Survivor series is good too.

>>252201959
Not the same genre, but pretty close: XCOM: EU, the controls aren't the best but it's still fun.

>>252210980

Devil Survivor is fun.

>mfw Purple Mirror+Titania in one unit

>>252209631
>>252209317

Thanks. I love games with hidden stuff in them that you might not even find after a few playthroughs.

>>252210745
You are a fucking retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfIDwmBvy8k

>>252206439
>I'm sure you'll be able to run when we get back
Why did he say this bullshit

>>252210724
>Remember Valkyrie Profile Hrist isnt a thing.
If only... Would have been perfect Lenneth PS1 Silmeria PS2 Hrist PS3 . It would have been amazing. Even if they made it it wouldnt be great considering Eniux is not what it use to be.

>>252210980
>not based Physical build
That attack that hits, like, 16 times is godlike.

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>>252208759
Magic works well on them.

>>252207710
>Denim

What a faggot.

>>252211563
>Phys build
>Devil Survivor 2
HAH

>>252199318
auto potion is GOAT reaction ability till the last chapter pretty much

>>252205338
I used to be that way. As a kid, I never used consumables. Even if I knew I could get more, I always thought it was cheating or something.

>>252204461
>Forbidden: Pushing
>Attack an opponent
>CRITICAL HIT
>critical hits shove the target
>enemy dies
>RED CARD
>it was Marche
>game over
>fuck you

If you haven't played Jagged Alliance, you owe it to yourself to do so.

>>252210569
Nah Rance is better.

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>Dat Yggdra
>Dat Milanor
>Dem hard as fuck maps.
>Dat hidden content.

>>252211932
Never heard of this. How is it?

>>252200726
>implying it's not slowly dying

>>252210569
Try Princess Concerto, it's in Japanese though. It's the best tactic JRPG on PC.

>>252211932
That game is so difficult but I love it.
Im taking a break from the "breaking the dam stalling" mission where all I can do is take hits from the calvary general of Gulcasa until Milanor and that assasin destroy the fucking dams.
It's the most bullshit mission

>>252211556
Yeah i mean VP is probably the best Enix game out there so it had a chance to actually be good.

>>252211563
Have fun getting REKT by all the phys repel demons late game.

>>252211932
Yah this or Knights in Nightmare were actually really good.

>>252204286
easy, the player is a summoner who has phantoms fight for him
damage to phantoms drains his energy

>>252212236
>Yeah i mean VP is probably the best Enix game out there so it had a chance to actually be good.
Yeah; Really all the Tri-Ace/Enix games were good. I guess Star Ocean was the straw the broke the camel's back.

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>>252197663
>advance

>>252211408
Thanks for proving my point

>>252212050
If you go for the GBA version it's pretty hard, but satisfying.
Or you can go with the PSP version, if you're casual filth.

>>252206906

I took special pleasure in killing Oz and seeing him cry like a bitch.

>>252195195
>no more SRPGs ever

I cry myself to sleep every night. You know, figuratively.

>Having fun with SRPG.
>Suddenly discover move that wreks 99% of the enemies.
>Game isn't fun anymore.

Every time.

>>252206685
Hawkmen typically live well into their hundreds
40s isn't even really middle aged for them

>>252203064
>actually liking Luminous Arc

Hey, I'm happy for you anon and I'm glad you had fun with it but why do you have such shitty taste?

I think the guys behind Tactics Ogre made a kickstarter about a year back, but I forgot what it was called, and it may have been for mobile phones.

>>252208313
I still remember the bullshit you have to go through to get Canopus and Deneb on your team in OB.
Also that red knight Ash in the Xenobia battle is a fucking demon.
Hardest fight was the special pre cursor to OB fight, the one with the army of dragons, that fight took me like 1 hour of non stop battling.

>>252203163
>DS2: Break Record is never coming out
>DS3 unlikely to ever exist

Best SMT games.

Well Disgaea's still alive, but D2 was shit. And NIS wants the broader audience, so we'll be taking her out to pasture sooner or later.
>>252208759
Crushing weapons or magic.

>>252204461
>Forbidden: Damage Monster
>Mission is to kill monsters.

The least the game could do is postpone the match or something.

>>252207439
Another Marona is Marona with no Ash IIRC
storywise at least, also if you start on it first you miss the tutorial so no snakish
I'm a completionist whore

>>252213236
I bet most people playing LA 2 because of the waifus. What a shit game.

>>252213275
For PC and is called Unsung Story.

>>252195195
>No more Front Mission
Don't remind me OP, fucking SE
>>252211932
>dat scene at the oasis
>dat OST and dat ARE. YOU. READY?
Pretty worth it

>>252207128

Personally I've had it work perfectly on PPSSPP.

It's Final Fantasy Tactics WOTL that's a bitch to emulate

>>252203064
I like Luminous Arc too and I agree with the controls being awful. It's like it had trouble registering player input.

That online was fun.

>>252212963
You mean
>Having Fun with SRPG
>Start to Grind subconsciously because you like the combat system
>Game turns out to be easier than expected
>No New Game Plus to set things right
I hate it when i enjoy things too much. The new Tactics Orge stopped this because enemies would scale but still Archers ruined everything which is why i never made archers personally on another note.

>>252211408
>that fucking moeblob at 35s
Yep, it's weebshit.

>>252211683
>not using Mulistrike, +Stone, Pierce, and Drain hit
Hinako was fucking immortal

>>252207336
I'm holding out hope for another FFTactics game, Advance or not.

I know it's not going to happen. Closest we got was a crappy tower defense using the sprites from FFTA.

>>252208546
Speaking of, is anybody actually excited for Project Steam? I'm not all that hyped... gameplay during Treehouse didn't look that great.

That might have been the shitty player, though.

>>252208546
Actually someone asked them about that during the E3 treehouse stream of project steam
they said advance wars is not dead
teasing bastards

>>252213949
Looks fun to me. Seems very similar to Shadow Wars, which I'm enjoying.

>>252211408
>Not showing gameplay when trying to win people over
You brought this on yourself

>>252213949
It looks fine to me gameplay-wise but I'll never be able to play it because of the artstyle.

>>252205275
So you just assume scam?

Does Double Fine's Massive Chalice count, or am I seriously misunderstanding what they're promising with the game?

>>252214258
The art design was a little offputting too, now that you mention it, but not offensively bad in my opinion.

>>252214485
Best not to bring it up since a lot of people on /v/ tend to be a pain in the ass when kickstarter is brought up.

>>252195195
Thank god. Those stupid fucking games don't even let people play it. they must have at least 5 hours of hand holding tutorials each.

>>252213583
That whole level scaling caught me by surprise, did some of the side content and over leveled a bit and suddenly story enemies went from being level 15 with shit armor/weapons to level 25 with like dragonscale armors and top tier weapons. I couldn't even compete, I had to carefully do some of the easy maps first and take their equipment.

>>252212454
did Tri-Ace die, if not what have they been doing recently

>>252200906
the smt:devil survivor series is srpg-like
no waifus doe

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>>252213613
>hating on Lune
Faggot pls.
>>252214217
Sadly there's absolutely no gameplay video on youtube. Here have some on Niconico gameplay video.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7329825
Sadly the only video I could find were gameplay on New Game+ with maxed out levels.

>>252213275
>>252213446
Matsuno was also helping some french fucks who had a kickstarter for an IOS game last I heard

>>252215114
Thats the game.

Theres just something about lancing through two enemies and getting twice the exp. Or when you finish off an enemy with your weakest unit with 2 damage and get heaps of levels all at once. It's a really satisfying game mode

>>252213643
I already make my other allies have that who are naturally physical agility oriented

>>252214902
that's okay, I don't even like waifus in my games unless it's harvest moon

Banner Saga was alright, not as much customization as I like in SRPGs but the actual battles were fun and the story felt fairly reactive even if it wasn't really.

>>252215703
Waifus are only OK if you can have kids with them

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>>252214902

>Devil Survivor
>No waifus

>>252200139
Can someone re-translate Thracia 776? As far as I know the current translation is shit and I want to play it.

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>Camelot is now Nintendo's Mario sports sweatshop

RIP Shining Force

>>252200345
Skip it. Not even the Japanese like it

The Wiiu feels like it'd be very good for this type of game

>>252195301
ebin

>>252216743
Some mario sports games are really quite good -- the GBA tennis game was a great rpg

>>252217014
It's perfect for handhelds in general, assuming it uses the gamepad.

>>252216743
Where is my Golden Sun 4 Camelot?

>>252208665
>not skipping non-story driven game's dialoge and story in its entirety and listening to an audiobook instead

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>>252217296
Well that's sort of my point. Camelot obviously has a very talented team. The fact that they can turn what would normally be very basic sports games into great fun with some depth and strategy just goes to prove what potential they still have.

Nintendo could have picked a much worse developer for the Mario sports games, but of course these projects are keeping them from making truly great S/RPGs.

Except Golden Sun DS, fuck that game.

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Tactics was great. So was Front Mission.

The handheld spin-offs sucked though.

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>>252219173
>dat artist
time to fap

>>252217625
Wasn't really aware Disgaea wasn't story driven.

>>252199536
M-m-maybe they're efficiently using the kickstarter money by not hiring any PR people?

Right?

R-right?

>>252219921
It's not story-driven, but it IS character-driven.
Skipping the story means missing out on character exposition and development.

>>252195195
Even if a good reknown dev team or trustworthy indie devs made it; none of you faggots will buy it

There's a reason that it's a dead genre. Nobody cares about it anymore

>>252199335
No, you are not.

>>252211648
How do I get the fourth sister? I managed to get 3 of them without fucking up/looking anything up. Maybe I'm just retarded or missed something but there wasn't any glaringly obvious way to recruit her in my first playthrough.

Dragon Age Inqusition will be the SRPG to end all SRPGs

>>252208546
Advanced wars isn't dead you cunt

IS confirmed they have plans for it

>>252221630
I feel like I'm missing a joke here.

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>>252221608
Sherri? You must not kill her at her fight and when she leaves go back to Balmamusa on a rainy day.

>>252222147
Welp, that was it? Son of a bitch.

Though, I seem to remember trying that and nothing happened so maybe I messed up a dialogue somewhere.

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>>252222682
You must be on the Chaos route and have the three sisters.

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>>252211932
>that canon AOE map
>those characters
>gulcasca backstory
>we'll never see Blaze Union in english

Fuck. Time to rev up those kanji books.

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>All this shitting on FE
>Not admitting FE:A was a decent game
You contrarian fags are just the worst

>>252223108
I might just have to go to the nearest anchor point and try again because I have the other three even though I don't really use them. They don't need to participate in the battle right?

>>252195195
b-b-but muh waifu emblem!

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>>252204724
>not using a psx emulator
>not getting FFT iso

>>252223264
>Not admitting FE:A was a decent game
/v/ fucking loved this game until the shitposters found out there was a "My Body Is Ready" reference in the DLC.

Then all of a sudden it was shameless meme-spouting Reddit pandering waifu easymode faggotry that ruined /v/'s secret club game.

>>252223572
I dunno but they have dialogue lines with her so just in case add them.

>>252200726
Super Robot Wars is garbage. Seriously.

Good for fan service and literally nothing else.

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>>252213363
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM

YOU VIOLATED THE LAW

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>>252202513
>d that the psp Tactics Ogre didn't seem to revive it.

Why would it? Square merely contracted Matsuno. He was already fired.

Tactics Ogre is dead. Final Fantasy Tactics is dead. Unsung Story seems to be dead, judging from dev activity.

Matsuno may as well not exist anymore.

>>252223264
but nobody even mentioned FE.

>>252213403
Another Marona is more like the Etna Mode, Axel Mode, etc stuff from the PSP releases. It gives you most of the named characters from the main story.

It's paced weird though. If you do it first, it ramps up ridiculously and gets super hard. If you do it second you won't use any of the characters and Ash can handle the whole game.

>>252197031
the thing about disgaea is the skills are no fun to use and the game flow feels slow.

>>252207283
>Apparently their utter inability to advertise will be the game's undoing.

It looks like shit. That's its undoing, moron.

And I don't mean graphics.

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>>252214485

It does count, but it's more like Final Fantasy Tactics x XCOM.

I have a boner for it despite not backing it

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIhLvue17Sd46K443P9ObKJCvaISmGYCP

>>252212236
>Have fun getting REKT by all the phys repel demons late game.
Thats what pierce is for, seriously Physical build is retardedly good, granted you dont have more physical attackers in your group, otherwise you will lack the necesary skills for everyone.

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>people who complain about the laws in FFTA
ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=6608.0
ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=9817.0

>>252228763
>people who complain about laws
>when that's partly the point of them being there.

>>252228138
>Implying pierce works on repel.

Did you even played the game?

>>252228763
>Grim Grimoire
>Doublecast only works on red magic
>More assassin nerfs than FFTA2
>Summons weaker

Way to completely shit on Viera. I get that it's supposed to be harder but when you take away everything that makes an entire race good, then why even bother using them? It's like you're purposefully recreating problems certain races in FFTA already had, just in the other direction. This is the exact problem every 'rebalance' patch for every srpg ever has too.

Fucking ruining my bunnygirls.

There's an incoming indie tactic JRPG on PC.

>>252230227

Project Phoenix is not a SRPG.

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>>252230227
Stop your lies.

>>252199318
Don't waste time snow-fighting, just have all your units aim at Mewt.
Aim for the bangaa that Montblanc weakens the most.
There, you cut it down to about 4-8 minutes.

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>>252230654
>just have all your units aim at Mewt

How have I never fucking thought of this?

>>252206287
I recently got the Shining Force game that was on the Sega Game Gear on VC.
It's been pretty fun.

>Final Fantasy Tactics 1.3
>Mustadio
>chapter 2

Why is this patch so good.

>>252229989
Pierce+

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>>252230531
>>252230573
It's not PP and it's not a lie either.

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>tfw no Final Fantasy Tactics A3DS
>all that's left is that tower defense game, and that mobile game that's just Tactics Ogre

I know that feel.
>tfw trying to seek out lesser known stuff
>try Gungnir
>it's shit
>try Jeanne D'Arc
>it's casual as fuck

I guess they're lesser known for a reason.

>>252231332
Thats what its for? Well i feel dump.

>>252231524

I don't even know what that is

>>252195195
tfw no FFT on 3ds

>>252231524
Holy fuck that looks disgusting.

>>252231829
Try Langrisser 4.

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>>252231532
>>252225601
>>252219173
>>252213683
>>252203697
>>252203325

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tfw never getting a translation ;_;

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>>252231937
The screenshots I found are small, here are some bigger ones. It looks kinda interesting though the art-style is a bit primal.

>>252232552
Good waifu shit is the only redeeming quality of this series.

>just finished front mission 3
>computer can't handle ps2 emulation
justkillmealready.jpeg

>>252232552
That's okay because Luminous Arc is terrible.

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I really miss SRPG games. They're my favorite. I daydream all the time about this idea I have for one, but it's nothing huge or anything. Having said that though, I highly recommend Divinity. It's an SRPG, but isn't based on a square grid or anything, it's based on meter measurements. I'm loving it.

>>252232552
the Luminous games were really average at best. It had to lean on the waifu thing and even then the games weren't all that great story wise.

Belongs in the tier of >>252231829

>>252207439
I'm at like, the second fight in that and have no idea what I'm doing. Only have Ash, and he doesn't last enough turns to even hit all the enemies.

Daily reminder they had a floppy existence to begin with

http://www.tbstactics.com/2010/04/list-of-turn-based-tactics-and-srpg.html

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>implying FFT is dead
They just released a new one last year, but there was a mixup at the printing factory and for some reason they put Fire Emblem on the cover instead.

>>252233245
Try Front Mission 2

Also I think I'm going to try FFT 1.3 since everyone seems to like it

>>252233986
Nigger, please.

>>252233746
Make units out of rocks and shit. The mechanics in that game really fucked me over until I understood what I was supposed to do.

>>252233986
The character designs in this look fucking repulsive. Like straight out of some romance VN trash. Loved the style of the older FE games from 6 up though.

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>tfw no iPad hi-res patch for the PSP/PSX version of Tactics.

Lineal pixel filtering looks like shit,like everything does.

I love this genre. I just wish there were more.

>>252234180
Wait, you can just make dudes without phantoms? Fuck me.

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What i don't get is whey the Summon Night games never came over.
Not even the DS ports, which I feel could have probably done decently well.

>>252234326
Just wait for Square to port the iPad version to Steam like they did with FF3. Or go start petitions and e-mail them about it.

>>252234506
I swore I played a Summon Night game on a DS once.
It was on some guys R4 clone, so maybe it was fan translation, but who knows.

What do you guys use for GBA roms? is it visual boy? It's what i used years ago. don't know if something better replaced it.

>>252234364
yeah man. just make characters like in any other SRPG. and just spawn them from anything on the field.

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>>252234326
Need I remind you what they did to FF6 for the mobile releases?

>>252234759
Yes VB, also there is a GBA emulator for PSP that runs really well-

>>252234635
There was only one English SN game on teh DS and it was a hack'n slash.

Unless it was turn based, which may have been a fan translation of the ports.

>>252234070
I recommend reading the FAQ on Insane Difficulty if you do go with the hard mode patch and not the content patch which is just easy mode.

Wizards are beasts in chapter 1, but fall out near the end. And for the love of god get auto potion on Ramza. I've restarted the game multiple times not because it was impossible to finish but I wanted certain jobs for fights in chapter 2 and 3.

>>252234759
VBA-M. It's some newer improved version of VBA.

>>252234921
yeah i have a psp with emu on it. forgot about it. Going to place on PC though. thanks for the reply.

>>252234768
Alright, gotcha, thanks. I don't actually play SRPGs, PB is a first for me.

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>>252234881
>those sprites

>>252234881
What does that have to do with FFT though?

>>252195195
>No more Front Mission
God fucking damn, don't remind me

>>252234964
Yeah, it was a hack 'n' slash that I played.

>>252235119
anon is predicting would would happen to the s[rites if SE made a mobile port of FFT.

I learnt Python specifically for this reason (Yeah, I know, >Python but I'd never coded before) and am currently making one.

Would anyone get behind a Kickstarter for a really big independent SRPG, 'cause I don't have very good art skills and would want to hire an artist to go over my placeholder sprites. The game would be released regardless, it'd just look prettier.

>>252233986

FE:A is shit though.

>>252235348
But FFT already has its iOS port. And it doesn't look half bad. That's what >>252234326 was talking about.

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>>252235348
They already did.

Stay buttdevistated VIfag

>>252195195
>daily reminder that SRPGs are dead
Just like any genre of anything, it's only dead when it gets done to death, 'til something brings it back.

Enjoy MOBA's, Survival-Horror, TPS's/FPS's, MMORPG's and JRPG's while they last, folks, 'cause they're the first ones out the door.

>>252233986
I played fire emblem, and it lacked basically everything that make tactics games tactics games

>>252234556
Well all things considered the people who did the port did a decent job. The biggest problem is that the screen wasn't filled for me, with two bars on the sides.
Final fantasy tactics has weird controls on iOS, it would be harder to port I think.

>>252235050
Good choice. but be warned that game can be fairly difficult, especially for new players.
But other than that it's highly rated.

Another thing to know, is that everything in the game is can be used as a weapon. From rocks to fish to even your dead party members bodies.

>>252235563
the rewriting of the dialogue in "medieval" english was enough to keep me from playing it

>>252233986
I think the two games are rather different, even if both are SRPGs.

FFT's maps have different levels of terrain. Archers for example can get higher up on the map to gain more range and damage. I can't think of any instances like this in the FE games I've played. Rather what they do have are terrain squares that convey certain benefits like forests or forts. Just compare the way the two do battles within cities and they both feel very different.

FE:A is still more FE than FFT, it's just not a very good FE is all.

>>252235421
Maybe. Tell me more, and you better have a demo available before you actually launch the Kickstarter.

>>252231524
>>252232640
So what is it? Reverse searching the images gives nothing.

I would love a FFTA3, while I love FFT for almost everything, the advance series to me had better building with races.

FFTA and FFTA2 were probably the only games I went autistic over and doesn't 200 hours each on.

>>252235421
If you hire a japanese artist i would be all over it.

Also what game are you using as inspiration?

>>252235585
>Survival-Horror
On consoles maybe but on PC the genre is still well and healthy, thanks to Amnesia that gave the genre a resurgence.

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>>252235676
>even your dead party members bodies
This is all sounding bretty gud, time to take another shot at it.

>>252236729
Did you play Revenant Wings?

>>252237020
Almost anything can be a weapon, and even some of the more weird items like Boxes get special moves.

>>252236729

Too bad FFTA sucks compared to FFT:OG

Any good SRPG's with guns? Setting doesn't matter that much.

>>252237020
they don't even have to be dead

>>252237651
Every FFT has guns.
But something with more focus on them would be Valkyria Chronicles

>>252237651
Front Mission 3. Giant Robots AND guns.

>>252237651
Advance Wars is the first thing to come in mind.

>>252237964
This is a proper answer.

>>252237651
If something more along the lines of TBS is cool for you then take a look at Expeditions: Conquistador.

>>252237860
Put enough hours into VC for a lifetime but I'll check out FFT.

>>252237964
Will play.

>>252238138
Played too much already.

>>252238183
Also played.

Anyone tried Wild Arms XF?

Thanks guys.

How do I into strategy RPGs?

>>252237223
Yes. Why is that relevant?

>>252237560

I wouldn't say sucked, and FFT was the better overall game, but building a team was less fun with overpowered unique units whom special abilities often dominated

>>252238823
You start playing them. And then you either love them or you don't.

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What do you all think of Ogre Battle? I know it's a real time strategy, not turn based strategy, but still.

>>252238957
Wanted to ask if it's decent because I never played it and am kinda considering it, while also having a fuckload of other things I want to be playing. Is it worth it?

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Every time I played OB64 I got a bad end for being a tyrant.

Am I a terrible person?

You guys are making me want to pull out the ol' box and play some more.

>>252239110
Ogre Battle gets my dick hard. Not only did they improve with each game, but Ogre Battle 64 blew me the fuck away.

I used to confuse Ogre Battle and Tactics Ogre when I was younger.

>>252239173
just match the unit's alingment to the stronghold's morale
It's not hard

>>252238823
Gateway Titles: Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem (GBA)

>>252239256
Skeletons and Ghosts were fucking awesome.

>>252224215
I see no problem with that.

>>252239287
B-but, my unit placement is more efficient and maximizes my xp gain.

I can melt the final boss in a few rounds with my beef supreme squad.

I just want everyone to be happy.

>>252239491
Thanks, gonna check them out now

>>252240298
FE is less complex but still pretty good. You can also start with the GC one if you want something more modern.

>>252200531
I have a modified version of this as my wallpaper so I can fap to the White Mage
>>252200747
my nigga

>>252240186
I'm not talking about who you use to fight what
have chaotic units liberate low morale strongholds and lawful units liberate high morale and neutral units liberate mid morale strongholds.

>>252206439
>>252211476
Marche is a villain.

>lies to his own polio ridden baby brother

I hate you Doned. I hate you and you should never be happy. When you die I'm gonna fuck granny haired ritz in your wheelchair.

>>252241024
I got what you said, but then I have to march different alignment units all over the map and eat up my days.

I'll stop complaining now. I know what I have to do, I just don't want to do it.

Curious also, without peeking at an faq or something, do neutral units count against you on liberations/captures or are they safe? It's been a while and I'm about to fire that shit up from it's eternal slumber.

>>252239163
Meh. It's interesting to see a RTS performed on a DS. But I remember it being just a mass and spam game.

Its aight

>>252195195
You forgot:
>Disgaea is dying, last good entry was Dark Hero Days
>Growlanser is done
>Fire Emblem turned brain dead easy
>Super Robot Wars is garbage
>Good western SRPGs are significantly rarer than good eastern SRPGs
>>252205919
Most of Disgaea's key members left after D2 due to NIS trying to reset their pay to starting wages
Disgaea 5 is now pursuing "a broader audience"

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>>252241285
>wanting his friends to grow up and learn to accept life for all its positives and negatives instead of living in a dream world

Hell, he's the most genuine hero of all the Final Fantasy games.

Though I have no clue why he straight up lied to his brother. I guess if Doned complained in the real world, it'd be pretty easy to walk away from him.

>>252241716
if the alingment doesn't match the morale the unit will capture the stronghold, this lowers your chaos frame, if it liberates it that raises your CF.

>>252241285
What the fuck was going on with Ritz's hair anyway? Wheelchairs I can understand, being a beta who gets bullied by everyone I can understand, being an angry nutjob because you're a 12 year old with gray hair is a bit of an oddity.

>>252214840
Tri-Ace spent the past few years ensuring the Lightning trilogy was in a remotely playable state

>>252242041
>most genuine hero
>not Ramza

I love Marche and all, but Ramza is a real hero.

>>252242081
>Waardenburg syndrome
>thyroid deficiencies

I'm sure there's other rare shit that would cause it. In those cases, she has a lot more to worry about than her damn hair color.

>>252241896
>Good western SRPGs are significantly rarer than good eastern SRPGs
Jagged Alliance Flashback, Divinity Original Sin, Massive Chalice, Expeditions: Conquistador, Incognita, Open X-Com, XCOM: Enemy Within Long War, and (hopefully) Pillars of Eternity. I'd say we've actually finally got a fair amount of western SRPGs after years of nothing.