>it's universally accepted in any sport or game you play in the world that timestalling is an dishonorable tactic and frowned upon
Learn some social norms you retarded autist
>GUNNRS and a Scarf
Honor doesn't mean shit if you win.
Go watch Moneyball, the coach essentially loses everything at the end because he does the honorable thing of making his methods public. Then the Athletics proceed to lose everything for the rest of time.
Honor is the thing you pretend to have when you get fucking rekt by someone playing to win. If you can't beat turtling, you deserve to lose. If you can't counter spamming, you deserve to lose.
I'm not whomever you were talking to, I wasn't defending it, I was simply implying you're going to get a lot of this kind of lame bullshit.
Yes. You should call them out, but don't do it in a whiny way, though.
And? If they have bullshit mechanics like this sudden death shit ofc it may get abused. Smashfags had it coming.
>thinking social norms don't exist in video games
And this is how I know you don't know what social norms are. And this is how I know you're an autist. And I mean the literal illness. I'm not using it as an insult. You don't understand social norms and are confused at people getting mad at you for not following them
Reminder this is /v/, the place where all of the shit stains of the internet gather to fling garbage at each other. You shouldn't expect any notion of social skills from these rejects
He is a foreigner playing a tournament in another country, he probably doesn't even speak english.
If an american were to play a smash tournament here in Chile (the country where scarffag is from, and yes I said here) he would probably be treated like a loser too.
Even against all odds, scarf fag beat the americunt.
In competitions that matter where there is more at stake (sports for example) no one bats an eyelash. Why? Because ultimately it really doesn't matter. Lives aren't at stake, these people aren't trying to cure cancer or improve the quality of life for millions on earth. Why you place so much importance on this imaginary idea of honor in a video game is beyond me.
Well I'm glad they showed so much of the game in motion, looks really fun.
Of course they do, along with throwing and turtling and anything else that they perceive as "cheap" because they don't know how to counter it. It's scrub mentality that's cancerous in fighting games.
Bull fucking shit. Go watch the football world championship and see how fucking pissed people will be at every single dive and at blatant timestalling. People literally will go riot about this.
Don't talk out of your ass just because you never step outside your home. Noone likes people who play with shitty tricks just to win and nobody wants to see that and nobody treats them as legitimate winners.
Time limits exist so that games don't go on forever. It exists in any professional sport because it would be just ridiculous to play indefinitely.
Timestalling is a scumbag strategy that tries to make use of that although it shouldn't have anything to do with how you play the game. In most sports you'll get a heavy penalty if you tried this shit.
Regarding the finals -- it was lame and boring as fuck to watch, but that's what happens when a move is designed like Zero Suit's whip. It's safe on shield, meaty as hell, and clears up mad space. Of course a character like Kirby is going to be at a massive disadvantage in the neutral game against that.
I figured from watching Her performance against Rosalina in round 1 she'd end up in finals, and as soon as Kirby was her opponent, it was a sealed fate. It doesn't make it fun to watch, but taking advantage of an advantageous matchup and a tactic that your opponent can't or isn't dealing with is how games are won. If nothing else, It should hopefully highlight some of the weaknesses built into how much the game rewards these strong zoning and escape moves.
Yes he did, but that doesn't change the fact that he was doing so by using cheap tactics and that noone who has any sense of honor and fairness agrees that he deserved to win.
People don't hate him for being a fat autist. People hate him for being a douchebag without a sense of fairness. Say if he didn't ran away in the end and played offensively till the Sudden Death and THEN won, people would've stood up and cheered for this guy. His appearance didn't matter, his behaviour does
KIRBY SUCKS AND RAN OUT OF TIME
WOAH WOAH WOAH
>it's universally accepted in any sport
confirmed for not watching any real sports.
Running out the clock is a very fucking common tactic in American Football, Hockey, Basketball, and Soccer.
>lost semi to olimar
>fans voted him in over olimar because fanservice
>faggot plays like a cunt all game
>gets booed by everyone
>reggie even falters a little yet everyone ignores the booing and shouting
I hope the faggot gets decked and his trophy stolen
No, I bet he's crying his eyes out because everybody was booing at him getting the trophy, cheering at his opponent more than him and probably hundreds of people sending him messages that he suck dick
Running out the clock doesn't mean holding onto the ball until the shooting clock runs out you retard. It's means holding onto it as long as possible every time you're in possession.
>it shouldnt have anything to do with how you play the game
Well too fucking bad, it does. remove the fucking time limit or shut the fuck up like holy shit are you fucking brain damaged?
You know the biggest thing this whole argument highlights is that Smash players are unable to adapt to situations that can, and do, occur in their game and are therefore forced to vilify other players by calling them "cheap" in an attempt to devalue their win.
I hope all of you realize that you're not making yourselves look like you're on some kind of moral pedestal by crying "No honor!" or "Cheap tactics"; you are simply admitting that, in the face of something that exists in the game that you don't know how to cope with, you whine about it.
In a game where avoiding damage is advantageous, staying outside of your enemy's range--running away--is to your benefit. If you're unable to handle that, that's your fault, not the other player's. If you blame anyone, blame the person that designed the mechanics, but most of all blame yourself for not being able to counter it.
I hate the guy too for being a humongous faggot, but come on guys, Smash isn't even a tourney worthy game. So why get mad that he won some gay ass invitational that didn't go by typical tourney rules?
His victory means nothing.
You're so fucking stupid. Even if you keep passing around for extended periods of times without trying to attack you get penalties for timestalling.
Do you understand what the word means?
>doesn't mean holding onto the ball until the shooting clock runs out you retard
Read that again because I think you're brain is having a hard time comprehending what I wrote.
>In real Football and Basketball you get penalties for timestalling
They deactivate the Shot Clock after it gets to be a certain time in the quarter.
In football you can still timestall if the game clock<the play clock
We may have disagreements on what qualifies as "fair" can all agree this scarfed faggot wasn't as good as Hbox right?
>h-his reputation is ruined
>h-he'll get hatemail
If you've played fighting games long enough you come across every kind of crybaby scrub bitch imaginable so there's no surprises to be had from them anymore. They cry, lose, and ragequit and never get good.
Have you ever watched a game? If the losing team is out of timeouts and doesn't have possession they don't play. Everyone just walks out onto the field and the game is over. They don't even stall the time they just end the game there and don't play the last minute.
He handled that shit better than any of us ever would, he gave zero fucks about what people thought of him. Dressed how he wanted to and everything, he isn't ashamed of himself.
How many of you fags have the balls to express yourself and dress and act like how you really want to act in public?
For that guy last thread:
It wasn't that it was just a hyperbole, it was that your post made NO sense when you claimed Rachel was an S-Tier character when she was essentially F-Tier. You really fucking suck at hyperboles.
If they were using actual tournament rules, he would have been forced to actually fight in that losing situation. There's nothing wrong with what he did given the rules in effect, but its retarded that the rules allowed for it in the first place. Who the fuck thought turning the game into single elimination Dive Kick match would be a good idea for a tournament.
You're wrong, Timestalling is done in a bunch of other fighting games
IT'S NOT DONE IN SMASH BECAUSE SUDDEN DEATH IS BROKEN AS SHIT
That's why tournaments turn off sudden death
OH LOOK THIS TOURNAMENT HAD SUDDEN DEATH TURNED ON
MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN ACTUAL TOURNAMENT AND YOU'RE GETTING ANGRY OVER NOTHING, AS USUAL, /V/.
When did The Brawl Club invade /v/?
>Literally if you don't have the lead when there is less than a min
I correct your statement by saying you can use timeouts and botched kneel downs have happened.
You didn't say anything about not having any timeouts. So don't fucking try to make shit up.
NFL games have come to last seconds plenty of times you fucking retard.
Does he collude? If not, he's just Infiltration.
Sure. Keep telling yourself that you're playing fair. Keep patting yourself on the shoulder, since noone else does it. Keep telling yourself that you don't want people shake your hand after a game and tell you that it was a good game while actually meaning what they say
Referee here, lrn2bball. The only penalty related to stalling is if the 24 second shotclock ends while a player still has possession of the ball. A team can do whatever the fuck they want within the other rules before then.
At least it showed people that there's a reason the rules exist.
I can't imagine many people enjoyed watching the finals or grand finals with how they turned out
aside from all the people in here baiting anyway.
Why does smash bros have to be ruined by fags like happybox?
I think I was less infuriated by the fucking scarf and more by the gamer glasses
The riots happen because they lose you dingus not because of the way the opposing team won. If their respective team wins using the same "tricks" they wouldn't give a flying fuck. If you ventured out of your head once in a while (after you removed it from your ass of course) and actually interacted with sane people you would know this.
I feel bad for Chile, having this fedora autismal representing them is worse than losing
If it was actual tournament rules neither of those two would have made it that far and Ken would have swept the entire tournament up.
They only won because they both camped at the edges of each match they were in and let Smash and its retarded fucking item placement feed them smash balls and max tomatoes the entire match.
figuratively a sitting war.
WHAT'S FUNNY is that /v/ was saying earlier that the items exist for a reason and competitive players aren't actual smash players while just having witnessed why this entire event was a sham.
I sometimes wonder if /v/ is made entirely of trolls, top to bottom.
>dead mother's scarf
What a fucking awesome son. Didn't even give a shit if he was ridiculed, and single-handedly pissed off Honorfags and Hbox dicksuckers on /v/.
A fucking badass, and a fucking hero.
The Irish are usually drunk enough as a people that you can get them to riot for damn near anything. You just have to rile them up enough to get their blood boiling in their potato-clogged arteries.
>Seamus, Scotland is seceding and England is just going to let them do it! Remember how King Edward raped your mother?
And there you go.
How can we disagree about wether he played fair or not and agree about wether he was better or not?
If he was better and won, he played fair
If he was worse and still won, he played unfair.
Yes they have. But they've also ended early plenty of times.
I thought you'd have more of a brain than to assume NFL games ALWAYS ended 100% of the time before the last minute was played.
Are you honestly that fucking retarded that you need it spoonfed to you?
It was to prove pro sports DO run out the clock and that in football it's literally a part of the game to the point that if the team has the ability to run out the clock with the other team unable to do anything the game will end early.
People only do that if their team is the losing one. I have never seen the winning team complain about that bullshit.
Wait, that sounds an awful lot like this thread with how the Kirby Player was edge camping most of his earlier rounds...
I visibly wrench every time someone at a fighting game tournament doesn't shake hands with the opposing player or even acknowledges them.
It just makes me think "You are such a stupid faggot I hope you get hit by a bus". Autists on /v/ can say that popularity means nothing and it only matters if you can win at tournaments, but popularity is what wins sponsors and sponsors is why people are able to attend the major tournaments in the first place.
So if you're an unlikable piece of shit to everyone, expect the fighting game community to treat you the same in turn.
/v/ and their knowledge of their parents basement doesn't mean jack shit when it comes to actual fighting games.
>That's still timestalling
Uh-huh, that's kind of the point
> and you get penalties for that
No, you don't
> if it's obvious that you don't try an attack
I don't think you know what the fuck basketball even IS.
These are is otaku rules tier
>Literally if you don't have the lead when there is less than a min
>b-but I didn't really mean literally
You're even more retarded then the idiot who think's people don't stall in sports.
>That WiiFit player
>That ZSS player
I actually fucking raged as if I was watching another fucking Rangers game, screamed at the monitor and everything. Fucking irritating, I want to punch that fat scarf guy so damn bad. Just looking at him makes me upset
What I find terrible is that I didn't see him use a special once
Did you? I only saw him use rush spring for recovery, but not one leaf shield or fire pump or metal blade
How can one person be so bad at a tournament they were selected for? Even the Wii Fit trainer, terrible player that she was, had the sense to sit at the edge of the map and use her ranged special abilities, he didn't even have the sense to do that.
Even if he filled the screen with metal blades, I would have been happy
No, this isn't even remotely ChrisG. ChrisG is actually GOOD at Marvel, despite what whiny scrubs will say ("He's just good at abusing a broken team!," they say. A) That's the point. B) Where all the other Morridooms in top 8?).
He only looked like garbage because he was playing him like a fucking tool.
>RANGED TECHNICAL CHARACTER
>RUB YOUR FACE IN THE ASS OF EVERY MELEE HEAVY CHARACTER IN THE MATCH
He deserves a kick in the ass for being dumb enough to do shit like trying to use his F Smashes in melee range of the characters who had much faster, much more powerful smashes like Little Mac.
The fucker went up to little mac and tried to buster him in the face and FUCKING SURPRISE LITTLE MAC IS MUCH FASTER THAN HE IS AT MELEE.
>WAAAH CHRISG IS ABUSING A CHEAP COMP
Then everyone flocks to it and a few months later, find out they are so shit they can't make it work, so they go back to the usual Wesker/Zero/Virgil shit.
>What do you think trophies are for?
For saying "I'm the winner, now look at this shiny piece of shit I won and you didn't".
>What makes the difference between a trophy and a regular piece of metal?
"I won it and you didn't", there's the difference.
You can argue that it's "unfair" or "unskillful" or whatever the fuck else you wanna call it. Objectively and calling it 100% unbiasedly, he won. That's what it comes down to.
>FUCKING GAMER GLASSES
We can all agree he dressed like he played right?
Being double teamed every match he was in because the others were afraid of him?
Not getting a good item lineup?
Not having smash balls spawn next to him?
Having the shittiest final smash?
Yeah those are all totally his fault.
>>WAAAH CHRISG IS ABUSING A CHEAP COMP
It's like, do these people even know what fucking game they're playing? I would love to see them go up against MvC2 era teams like Team Clockwork or Team Duc. I loved watching that ugly faggot Maximilian just straight up turn into Cleofagtra, Queen of Denial when playing against MSP. He stopped playing and pretended nothing even happened.
There are people in this world who don't watch sports, fucking christ man. Even if you don't follow them you should at least know.
You're only excuse would be that you aren't American. If you are than I'm automatically assuming a shut in basement dweller.
No you don't have to be a dudebro sports game player or some high school jock or a fan of the NFL but you should at least know.
I remember I came on here a few months ago and some guy honestly had no idea who Peyton Manning was
Not him but personal goals are worthless. I can make a personal goal to fly to the moon and achieve it purely in my imagination.
A goal is only worth anything if it has tangible results.
Also not him, but I think everyone realizes this entire tournament was a farce. It's why I can't understand why people are angry about it. It's like winning a ring toss game at the fair.
For being the only person to luck into playing as a character he's famous for perfecting. The Ken Combo is named after him. His Marth was the rocks of the eternal shore in Melee. And he lost to some fat retard when this shit should have been in the bag for him.
This is fucking pathetic, no wonder Sakurai hates the tourney scene.
This "super hype" moment accompanied by a climactic track is a couple of shitlords laming it out until they trade a little life at the end.
WOOOOOOOOW! FUCKING CLUTCH!
Sort of like how Kirby did the exact same thing.
>When someone comes near you, try to fight
>Get wrekt, so jump away to another safe area
>Only run in to secure kills
He even won in Sudden Death with a throw at one point.
You two are stupid. You can write on a piece of paper that you got an accomplishment for going to the toilet today. That's an accomplishment, but it's pretty worthless.
This isn't about getting acknowledged by others. This was your pure projecting. It's about the accomplishment itself getting acknowledged.
If your teacher gives you a gold star for trying or because you cheated, your accomplishment is worthless. If you actually managed to get a good grade through fair and square work it's worth something. This concept is really not hard to grasp
He didn't lose to a fat retard, pay attention
He lost to THREE fat retards. The one who eliminated him was a fat girl who won by standing at the corner of the stage and letting two other retards beat down on him.
Later on she was unable to play her character and spent the entire match jumping around and spamming her projectile.
So you were saying? That he wasn't playing good? Go re-watch that match and tell me he wasn't doing a good job holding off people who were using items against him and that he didn't clean sweep some of the idiots who tried to take him on.
>If your teacher gives you a gold star for trying or because you cheated, your accomplishment is worthless. If you actually managed to get a good grade through fair and square work it's worth something.
Says fucking who? You? Who are you to decide which accomplishments have worth? Is there a committee?
>You two are stupid. You can write on a piece of paper that you got an accomplishment for going to the toilet today.
How is that applicable to what's being discussed? Did you seriously just say that's the same as being given an official trophy from an official source?
You're not very good at this..
>siendo mal educado
No me esperaba mas
hello, you're stupid
He fought excellently in those matches and won against the people he was fighting with. He lost because the people he wasn't fighting with weren't fighting. Instead sucking up items because as we all know, randomly spawning items are the most fair indicator of skill in a fighting game.
Also, you are a retard, good day.
And if the government writes you a letter that you accomplished to go to the toilet today, noone really gives a crap, because noone acknowledges that toiled paper. You can go around and tell everyone that you got it, wave it around and taunt people for not having it and still it's worthless
>And if the government writes you a letter that you accomplished to go to the toilet today,
Does the government do that? No. Stop being stupid - you're not very good at this.
Are you too stupid enough to comprehend a hypothetical scenario?
Would you actually be proud if the government gave you a letter of accomplishment for that? Because that's what you're trying to sound like right now
It's a stupid fucking analogy because it makes no sense. It's borderline insane troll logic because no professional or federal institution would ever recognize that.
It's like saying everyone is living their lives on the edge because every time you step outside, there's a million ways to die.
You're not very good at this.
ANYTHING GOES AS LONG AS THE GAME ACKNOWLEDGES YOU AS THE WINNER - /v/
Also this is the most skilled player ever to exist, because the game said he won. Therefore he is a good player.
>buh buh he was cheating!!!
I love how americans get SO fucking pissed when they can't understand other languages it's as if they can't accept the fact that they are not the center of the universe. It's absolutely hilarous.
> It's borderline insane troll logic because no professional or federal institution would ever recognize that.
Not him, but it's funny that you say this because Nintendo, a company that would probably consider themselves pretty serious people, just acknowledged a lump of shit known as an 'All items, 4 player, sudden death enabled tournament'. Something that not even fat neckbeards in their basements play because they recognize how bullshit broken it is.
Enjoy that toilet paper.
That's because I'm not him, there's just more than one person that thinks you're a retard and you're getting flustered at the idea.
Yeah I'm sure glad those random items are a true measure of skill! I wonder why they play with those things turned off, anyway?
I know this is a bait, but there are legitimately retards in this thread that think this shit is valid.
The stuff done in the video was blatantly against the rules and you get banned for that.
What ZSS did was exactly following the rules of the tournament.
Playing to win, means you play to your best within the rules of the games.
Zero is a cheap player, it's very disapointing to see someone like him win. Does he deserve the win? Off course but he still won like a pussy which is very anticlimactic.
There is a reason why the brawl scene barely gets any attention. It's not fun seeing 2 meta knight running after each other back and forth depending on who got the advantage and timing out on a final.
Lol stupid fucking scrubs
He won, that's all that matters. The strong won over the weak
How he did it is only logistics for you gay scrubs to dick around over. He won using his superior abilities with the game, that's final
At what? At you saying an award from an institution is somehow comparable to shit? At you saying the tournament was 'shit' thinking that somehow proves your point?
Your analogies are as bad as your back pedaling.
They don't you shithead. You play 4 players with items on if you want a chaotic good time.
Clearly you don't play any fighting games competitively because you would realize how this is the antithesis of actually trying to play as a measure of skill with the game.
It's the same shit. Both groups of people believe in "honor" in video games. Man fuck that shit. If timer scamming is so wrong to them, they'd also get pissed off by throwing and usage of combos in other fighters.
Shit you should have been there for the american 3S scene.
At least the fgc has grown from bitching about it to actually acknowledging the lame/turtle style as a legit playstyle. And when I say fgc, no, I do not mean streambaboons.
>At you saying an award from an institution is somehow comparable to shit?
Once again, not the same guy, retard. You're saying that this tournament is comparable to anything, but it's really just a jerk-off session for clowns who think this is any kind of serious measure of value.
If you can't even grasp that in your tiny little mind, that a tournament that had all the items and final smashes enabled may not be a serious tournament that goes by accepted tournament rules, then you can keep waving around your toilet paper and trying to find someone to take YOU seriously.
I don't think you understand neither what hypthetical nor what analogy means.
Of course no government would give you an accomplishment for going to the toilet. That's the fucking point. It's a worthless accomplishment. But even IF, can you read this word? IF they did, noone else would care, because noone acknowledges it.
But since you're not smart enough to understand that because either the word toilet paper or the word government confuses you, how about your dancing club gives you a medal for being able to wear tutus.
Would you be proud about that? No. Because and I can't repeat this often enough, noone acknowledges this accomplishment.
>People give a fuck about this
>No tournament rules
>"Winner" played like a bitch
>SCRUB LOGIC I'M SO SUPERIOR 2U HE WON THAT'S WHAT MATTERS
The new items sucked though, the only items that were worth a damn were the items that were always in the fucking game
They should have turned all the items BUT the new items off.
>Once again, not the same guy, retard.
Who cares? You're defending the argument anyways so either you're him or you support his stance.
>You're saying that this tournament is comparable to anything
I'm saying that being given a trophy or award from an official event is not comparable to the government giving you an award for shit. The very logic is absurd and doesn't hold up. Reduction ad absurdum is not a legitimate argument no matter how you spin it.
Sorry, but you need to put more effort into your garbage analogies.
But they don't. Like I said, the comparison is absurd because you're applying it to a completely different context that makes no sense in terms of society or personal issues. Like, actually what the fuck?
> how about your dancing club gives you a medal for being able to wear tutus.
Another absurd comparison because no dancing club does that. Holy shit you are bad at this.
It's okay in Street Fighter or Marvel
In Smash Bros it's OK too because Sudden Death isn't enabled anywhere that people are playing for serious competition.
You know why? Because over half of the characters can outrun the other half easily and simply avoid them forever. ZSS was actually doing a dogshit job running away from Kirby, and was only saved because Kirby was awful at his job.
A good ZSS player could have got the first stock hit in and been invisible to Kirby for the rest of the match. Just stalling until the match ended and picking up an easy victory. Unfortunately neither of them were very good players.
In Pokémon Stall and Timestall are two completely different things. The first is a legit strategy, the second is something only trolls do and that most formats take measures against.
those were so shitty and having items on for it was worse.
It wasnt a tournament it was a marketing stunt to show off the game with people who would play relatively well
Yes it is you autist. If you play a game with someone it's the social norm to actually play the game and not to avoid playing the game until you run out of time. It's a matter of decency.
Duh. It was all in good fun and was for the fans. Apparently a way to test the waters too according to what Reggie said at the end. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo tried a Capcom pro-tour format with Smash in 2015.
>those were so shitty and having items on for it was worse.
Anyone saying that 4 players, items enabled, sudden death enabled smash is in any way a test of skill is frankly a dogshit retard.
One who has never played smash and probably only came in here to jerk off about a game they don't play or understand.
You dumb faggots (you know who you are) can pretend that you are knowledgeable in fighting games and that playing with items on is legit, but everyone else who knows what they are talking about (people who aren't retards) realize that you are merely pretending to be knowledgeable and you are, in reality, a sad sack of shit.
At this point you must be trolling. Then make your dance club give you an accomplishment for participating (there are dance clubs that do this) noone cares and that accomplishment is worthless
Uhhh no it isn't. It's a legit strategy you autist. BUT that strategy is damn near useless unless you're playing prepatch Street Fighter x Tekken.
But go ahead, keep crying. I bet you were "that kid" that bitched about combos and throws.
Says common sense, logic and, wait I think I used this word already, social norms.
An autist like you wouldn't understand this. No matter in how many different ways I explain it, because you don't know what it is
That picture makes me physically i'll....
> ZSS was actually doing a dogshit job running away from Kirby
Whether you liked scarf or not, he was a terrible fucking player that would (and will) get wrekt in normal tournament play simply because he is awful at controlling and spacing.
Frankly he only won because he was fighting another turtler who was also awful at playing his character.
Remember that time Kirby smashed in the wrong fucking direction? (every Fsmash was this) or when he tried to hammer in the wrong direction? I lost count how many times he did this.
Ken would have whipped both of them.
No, but rather your that kid who starts a game, realizes he loses and says that he has to go now and demands to call it a draw.
Or the kid that pulls out the plug of the console when he realizes that he loses because it would ruin his winstreak so if he does that, it doesn't count
Yeah, but keeping the puck in the ring and cycling it back and forth is perfectly legitimate, just like ZSS was doing on-stage.
Listen, as I said earlier, making stupid reductionist arguments is not a valid argument. It's like the example I gave about living life on the edge - taking the argument out of context and applying it to an absurd, impossible scenario, doesn't make it legitimate. NO institution would give you a certificate for shit that you even bringing it up is meaningless because it doesn't apply to our world, at all.
>Then make your dance club give you an accomplishment for participating
So now you're trying to get me to prove your stupid hypothetical analogy that has nothing to do with anything for you? I can't tell if you're back pedaling so hard you no longer know what you're saying, you're trolling, or if you're legitimately stupid.
You know what? I'm done. You 'win'. I can't argue with stupid. Have the last word if it makes you feel better. Goodnight.
>not a good player
He is one of the best, it doesn't help that kirby is dogshit and he doesn't really play him. I assume he went with kirby just because of rudimentary knowledge and a similarity to jiggly.
Not him, but I got my debate club to put in writing that I actually did participate and didn't just join as an 'honorary' member. It's part of my resume package and ensures authenticity. It also makes for good small talk at interviews.
Plus the matchup wasn't suited to those characters.
But at the same time. He did a terrible job catching up to ZSS, she was making terrible mistakes everywhere that should have cost her the match.
>tfw the chinaman that choose Rosalina played like a fucking retard
Even the unskilled WFT SJW grill was a better player.
I said this in a thread earlier, the whip completely zoned him, as a character kirby can't really respond to it. it got close because of zero fucking up and hbox doing risky rolls
A friend of mine brought me to a group like that once. They didn't have quite as many rules though.
>almost everyone plays fox
>I pick link
>they look at me strange and ask if that's what I really want to pick.
>play a distance game with bombs, arrows, and boomerang
>always have at least one thing flying towards the enemy player
>after I beat 3 people they told me I had to leave.
>friend tells me the next day that they banned link after that.
What you consider a dirty trick is irrelevant.
You can call whatever you want a dirty trick.
The only matter of decency is whether you tried your absolute best to win within the established rules, which is exactly what ZSS did.
No. This is what trying to win by time stalling is. You don't try to win by being good at the game, you try to avoid losing by running out of time.
On the other hand you were projecting pretty heavily in the post I replied to
That nigga just made an entire post full of relevant and solid arguments, and you respond with "you're wrong kid"?
That's pathetic, if you've got nothing to say you can just stop posting.
>You don't try to win by being good at the game, you try to avoid losing by running out of time.
I didn't see Kirby trying to go after him when he was clearly stalling. He had his chance and didn't take it. That seems to be the part you all ignore.
Actually, no I'm not dude. I play fighters somewhat competitively. You kind of need thick skin after getting your shit kicked in game after game. So yeah, keep crying bitch nigga.
>tournament has shitty rules
>zero takes advantage of them
>implying Rosalina was worse than WFT
No. She. Was. Not.
WFT just ran away and spammed projectiles. Not even good projectiles, the projectiles she has that aren't really suited for anything because they're too weak to zone and they move along an arc.
She had NOTHING when it came to an actual fight where she was showered with Items, at least Rosalina managed to use Luma in an interesting way a time or two
Not because he didn't play fair but because he is well known for being horrifically scammy and dependent on running away which makes him a cock garbling faggot. He may have won but he is still a tremendous faggot
>not seeing him play in the very first game
>clearly a rivalry between him and PPMD
>keeps targeting PPMD
>keeps targeting him even when he's fucking down during the Final Smash
>abuses shit Brawl tactics with ZSS because she plays basically the same
Fast forward to Grand Finals:
>stalls the game at the very end of the Grand Finals, Brawl style
He knew how to fucking abuse and win that event. It was disgraceful.
I wish people would understand this before they say that the Kirby should have done something about her running away.
A ZSS would have to have a fucking stroke mid-match for a Kirby to catch up with her. It was the same way with MK and the majority of the cast in Brawl.
It's his fault no one else got the smash balls?
And Kirby had every chance to go after him.
People booed him because he played to win, within, the rules of the game, and didn't go for stupid made-up "honor" rules.
I'm glad he won.
so is it scarflard or maximum scarf? He needs a moniker.
>A ZSS would have to have a fucking stroke mid-match for a Kirby to catch up with her.
With how the autist was playing, he might as well be having a stroke.
>Dropped combos everywhere
>Half his attacks don't even reach Kirby
>Attacks in the wrong direction a dozen times
Jesus christ, that Kirby player couldn't win? What trash.
You're baiting, but those tactics can be dealt with in DotA unless the other team gets completely outdrafted.
As we've said before, Kirby is slow as fuck and will never conceivably catch ZSS unless they make an impossibly huge mistake.
How can you be glad he won?
His background is from playing Brawl versus an old school Melee player (played some Brawl, but still). It's cool seeing the clash of generations, but honestly the impact on Melee players would have probably been bigger if Hbox had actually win that event.
Now it's pretty fucking clear that if you come from Brawl, Smash 4 is going to be your game.
You all are fuckin dumb
- He wears the scarf cuz his mother gave it to him and he uses it for good luck. Not because he is an autist.
-He is arguably the best brawl player in the world and has won many national brawl tournaments
-He is a very solid player in melee as well and clearly is not a scrub at smash
-Ive met the dude multiple times and hes deffinatley not autist. Cool dude
U all are retarded
I firmly enjoy competitive play in Melee, Brawl, and Project M, but considering that this tournament was made to raise hype more than anything, I don't believe this was the time or place for these tactics.
Playing to win is important and respectable, but I don't think it was such a great choice considering there was hardly a prize for first, not to mention this was in front of hundreds of thousands of people, most of which most likely didn't want to watch a campfest (and I'm not defending HBox's display from earlier -- I didn't miss his taunt spree, but I also didn't miss his aggressiveness in the finals).
Regarding HBox fans being sore that he lost, it is understandable -- if you were actually watching the match, you'd see that HBox got quite a few reads on Zero (landed the hammer) even though Zero had the matchup advantage.
All the same, Zero did choose the best tactic in the end and won because of it, so I can't deny that he triumphed.
All in all, people were just disappointed that he won in such a manner and took a bit of the hype out of the grand finals.
I'm used to seeing people get timed out in Brawl, and it actually can be hype, but that's for money -- in this situation, it was more to showcase the game.
One smashboards member brought up a valid point in saying that he was glad that Zero won in this manner and he's glad that Sakurai saw this, but all the same, it was a little upsetting to see everything turn out this way.
PPMD vs HugS was cool, though.
Alright believe what you want. I'll be playing with friends at there place and guys I always meet up with at my local place. And you can stay here bitching about honor and some other shit that no cares about in video games.
gg no re
The fact that you even care about the differences between Brawl and Melee means you take Smash way too seriously.
And I'm glad he won because every hated him for doing nothing illegal. I wanted to see you choke on your bile as he got his trophy.
90% of the melee players have already damned the game after seeing that the finals played out exactly like brawl.
Of course a good portion would never drop melee no matter how decent the new smash is, but this tournament has made a lot of people concerned about how it's going to turn out.
I'm so happy m2k wasn't there. Holy shit the hype would have died even more.
Not surprised Zero played like a complete Brawl bitch though, seeing as he probably practiced with m2k and all when he was with CT.
How the hell is that any different from being outdrafted?
Kirby is not good at catching fast characters, and some good DotA Lineup are not good at dealing with split pushes (and it is not like it is easy to draft for every situation with Captain's Mode, especially against last picks)
Scarflard you're my fucking hero, and I swear this is a serious question: how do I train myself to cause this kind of ass-shattering rage? I once defeated someone at a SSF4 tournament with only hadoukens and cheesing to the point when my opponent was whining about buttons, but it's not the same.
>One smashboards member brought up a valid point in saying that he was glad that Zero won in this manner and he's glad that Sakurai saw this
Why? You think Sakurai is nearly as anal about this as you asshats?
>Playing to win is important and respectable, but I don't think it was such a great choice considering there was hardly a prize for first, not to mention this was in front of hundreds of thousands of people, most of which most likely didn't want to watch a campfest
Sums it up perfectly. I don't give two shits about honor but this was more of an exhibition than an actual tournament but it wasn't played out that way. Shit even in street fighter exhibitions you see both parties go for broke just for the sake of putting on a good show.
You can go read his post for his arguments, the thread hasn't wiped yet.
There was no sick burn, except for "you're wrong kid." My contribution to the conversation is to tell this faggot that he's said nothing and needs to actually refute what the other guy said before it can move forward.
>but it's not the same.
You probably did it at a local level.
This autist did it a fucking world premiere, collectively shattering asses of every honourfag in the world. He's a true hero.
That dude probably comes on here and knew he should dress up like that for the buzz on here so he could make it home and see people talking shit about him. Bet he's have a good giggle somewhere in Chile.
He couldn't change characters and had to pick before the tournament even started.
Character choice and order was also selected by drawing out of a hat. I'm pretty sure you know the pick/ban phase doesn't work that way in DotA or most other games.
Once again downplaying the significance of the balance disparity in the match-up
Unless ZSS put down the controller, Kirby couldn't have caught up. Period. His flight is slow, his run is slower than ZSS, and he has overall worse reach.
Saying "BUT ZSS PLAYED SHITTY KIRBY SHOULD HAVE WON EASILY" is showing how little you know about Smash. Maybe you take pride in that, but don't pretend to be an expert in it and then drop the ruse when it's pointed out that you instead don't know what you are talking about