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>>2418340 Not the OP, but you seem to be just a bad as the people you're talking about. Does it really matter what image is used in the OP? I think not. Also "yuri" doesn't have on universally agreed on definition thus idol anime can be yuri to some (like the OP) and not to others (like you).
>>2419108 history of yuri. then got into their opinions of yuri and honestly it was all just really entry level stuff. they mentioned classics and stuff and covered the big stuff. but they were just really cringey about it, like I get that they wanted to be funny and personable, but making dick jokes every 5 seconds or talking about how men ruin everything (when you're a fucking man, holy shit) just makes it a really stupid experience.
after i got home i really don't know what they talked about other than a brief overview of the history of yuri, and even that was really hit or miss and filled with stupid jokes that missed the entire purpose.
And yeah I mean men ruin a lot of things, but saying >OMG MEN ARE BUYING YURI AND SOME OF THE WRITERS TARGRT MEN BY PUTTING GRATUITOUS FAN SERVICE SCRNES LIKE SAKURA TRICK. MEN RUIN YURI!! Is fucking stupid. If it was about men being the cause of yuri pairings turning straight or something id get it. But literally complaining that men are buying yuri is pathetic on multiple levels.
Like hell, the dude said girlfriends was stupid because the girls got changed together and touched each other cause "girls totally don't do anything like that! I'm a man, but my fantasies as a girl means I know more than that female mangaka about being female"
I'm probably being a sperg atm, I just waited an extra few hours to check out that panel and it was the dumbest thing I've been to in a long time.
>>2419154 >OMG MEN ARE BUYING YURI AND SOME OF THE WRITERS TARGRT MEN BY PUTTING GRATUITOUS FAN SERVICE SCRNES LIKE SAKURA TRICK Now that's pretty cucky. Sakura Trick isn't even lewd, it's really cutesy and romantic even though it's got the shonen label. The reason why it flopped in the first place is because it lacks subtext and fanservice stuff.
>Like hell, the dude said girlfriends was stupid because the girls got changed together and touched each other cause "girls totally don't do anything like that! I'm a man, but my fantasies as a girl means I know more than that female mangaka about being female" Lol, it's some next level pathetic. I really feel bad for him.
>>2419154 >the dude said girlfriends was stupid because the girls got changed together and touched each other How did you even sit through this crap, this guy sounds like a complete idiot People who try to speak for others like that and are totally wrong annoy me to no end
>Thread deleted when the other was on Page 2 >Thread came back and stayed when the other was on Page 5 This has been pretty consistent for a while now, so I see a pattern. This will be the last time we see this kind of thread.
>>2418595 And just what do you know about yuri? Idolshit has always been a false hope for yuri ever since Idolmaster was born. It's the next worst thing for /u/ behind harem. Most idol/mobage series have self-inserts that are guys, something that /u/ condemns. Recent general threads have idol with little to no yuri in them. Idol and and harem may be okay to talk about but they definitely should NOT be the faces of this board. Glad someone made a containment thread for all the idol crap.
I've been watching some non-yuri anime like UBW, Patlabor and Another recently, and got to thinking about how those shows go about depicting their straight main couples compared to the bane of /u/''s existence, implied yuri. It turns out there are lots of het relationships that get the exact same treatment (Shirou and Rin, originally from an eroge, shake hands at the end of their show), yet their fans don't seem to consider themselves particularly mistreated by the showrunners. Obviously they aren't the same thing because lesbianism is a taboo and there's all sorts of "more than friends, less than lovers" horseshit around, but might we still not learn something from that? Why should we be unsatisfied if series X heavily implies lesbianism without saying it out loud? Can we just not conclude it is in fact lesbianism and be done with it, without caring if it's technically "canon" or "subtext"?
>>2419279 That has been brought up on /u/ many times. Japan has a boner for only implied couples and never fully commit to it. Fuck you even have hetero couples calling themself "best friends". It is nothing unique to yuri.
No, people deserve better, the genre deserves better than that, I don't think the UBW comparison works either, because they did in fact fuck everything up with the whole censorship thing. My fave het romance series is White Album 2 and I can't imagine how awful it'd be if was watered down so everything was subtext.
>>2419279 While I agree sometimes het couples also got strung left and right by the author, what make them different from yuri cp is at least more often than not they got a very solid confirmation on the status of their relationship at the end. For yuri cp it never goes past the "best friend" on screen. NanoFate can live together and adapt a child together all they want but the show will never have them refer to each other as anything but bestfriend. Homura can be gay as fuck for Madoka but Madoka will just consider her a best friend...etc...
>>2419279 While get couples do get that treatment sometimes. There's usually a confession of sorts or something to say that yes they're being shipped together and they're fucking. I.e. they get confirmation on screen that they're together. Sometimes it doesn't happen, but in yuri it's 1000x more prevalent
>>2419279 Nanofate doesn't have a VN that's more canon than the anime where Nanoha repeatedly fingerbangs Fate.
Also, you answered your own question right here: >Obviously they aren't the same thing because lesbianism is a taboo and there's all sorts of "more than friends, less than lovers" horseshit around Gay relationships need actual onscreen confirmation because otherwise it's extremely safe to assume they're not gay.
>>2419405 >Gay relationships need actual onscreen confirmation because otherwise it's extremely safe to assume they're not gay. That's my entire problem with this thing, specifically, "assume". Assume by who? Certainly not us. If it's people who dislike yuri, why should we care about what they think?
>>2419382 it was a dude, made sure to talk about it plenty. >>2419409 because 2 girls doing everything together and sleeping in the same bed are things normal friends do actually do. but a guy and a girl doing everything together and sleeping in the same bed and always having physical contact is a pretty good hint they're a couple. of course there are exceptions but on a 99.9% case that's fact.
>>2419409 Not all people are neatly divided into yurifag-yurihater categories. There are many people who only ship yuri that is canon enough, and thus if a work is too subtext, they won't produce fanart/doujin, thus the fandom gets smaller.
Case in point is Ninaryo, a prolific artist who got into yuri after being brainwashed by the glory of Valkyrie Drive.
Having more and more canon works will only work in everyone's favour, because of the domino effect. More fanworks -> bigger fandom -> new yuri fans -> new generation of creators for yuri game/anga-anime. Being satisfied with half-ass bones that the industry throw at us is pathetic. If you want something to grow, you have to demand and put pressure to change.
>triggering So that's why you have to be polite and politically correct at all times near active nuclear missile silos!
>>2419405 >Gay relationships need actual onscreen confirmation because otherwise it's extremely safe to assume they're not gay. What if the evidence is so overwhelming that even without confirmation not even the most deluded of individuals can reasonably back up an argument that two girls are NOT gay?
>>2419426 sometimes, romance is debatable. nanohafate? sure. its pretty much undeniable they're gay, but they're an exception as well.
a lower level example is love live, sure there's plenty of subtext, but its very much kept to friends level. long glances and blushing does not make it a romantic or a relationship thing. until someone straight up says eri is fingerbanging nozomi and maki takes nico to her penthouse for long physical checks you can very much say they're just friends and you have to force it into being gay.
subtext and shipping is fun and all, but its nice to have an undeniable "yeah these 2 are together". a het series will almost always have an ending where the MC and a random girl get together. even long running bullshit series like naruto and bleach have it like that. a subtext yuri series will almost always stay subtext, which is why people get annoyed with it.
>>2419425 But subtext shows get way more fanworks than text shows. Almost all shows that are popular enough to get constantly rolling generals here are strictly subtext.
And frankly, whether a bunch of gaijin who pirate everything they watch are happy with what they get is of very little significance to the industry. This is more about how we choose to feel about those shows.
>>2419436 Of course stories with definite resolution will leave the readers feel more satisfied, whereas teases make them feel like there's an itch they need to scratch. The amount of fan mangas doesn't correlate with the fans' satisfaction of the work.
>>2419433 >long glances and blushing does not make it a romantic or a relationship thing That isn't something platonic friends do, so it is a romantic thing. You're the one deciding to treat it like nothing. Break the shell, Anon.
>>2419430 >What if the evidence is so overwhelming that even without confirmation not even the most deluded of individuals can reasonably back up an argument that two girls are NOT gay? Then it's just dumb. Who the fuck refers to their lover as their "best friend" in public? How can you make 26 episodes worth of anime and not have time for a 10 second kiss scene? There's literally no good reason to not explicitly confirm that two characters are together. Subtext is worse than hitler.
>>2419451 People blush about a lot of things, its not an inherently romantic or attraction thing. I blush when talking to people because I'm a spazz, it has nothing to do with attraction. Long glaces can be a multitude of things, they might just be staring absentmindedly and need a focal point.
Is it intended to be shippy? yeah, but does that make it really romantic? no. because these things don't mean all that much.
>>2419522 The audience consists of multiple people. If you read the nozomi blushing when eli stares at her as attraction that's fine. But someone else might read it as nozomi just being self conscious in general. (Not referring to a literal scene here) people get tired of using their imagination for everything, if its based on how you personally interpret something then its no different than it not being a real story. and people here want stories that are actually yuri and not just your own headcanon trying to interpret every sign as a signal that they want to fuck.
>>2419522 The problem with subtext shit is that they're ambiguous. People can't agree on whether it's romantic or platonic. You can make two girls blush ambiguously at each other for the whole anime, yet it'll become apparently platonic if in the final episode they smile happily at each other and say "you're my best friend." The one who declare BFF is unambiguously platonic, only the one who keep her mouth shut could continue being interpreted as gay.
>>2419535 >The problem with subtext shit is that they're ambiguous. No, the problem is that people don't understand the characters. Subtext involves knowing the character and inferring because while it might be played as "ambiguous" to viewers, there's intent there. Why do you think foreshadowing is a literary device?
>>2419600 >>2419605 Because if I had a dime for everytime a "subtext filled show" ends in literally stating its just platonic or ends in a het coupling I'd have enough money to animate my own god damn series.
>>2419652 So make those calls after the show has ended. If the writers are shitheads, they could just as easily have an unambiguous lesbian couple split in the last episode, say it was just practice and marry guys.
How would you feel about a yuri One Room? For context, the girls would be in love with a self-insert that is explicitly stated to be female but never talks and is always off-screen. Would it still even be yuri?
>>2420495 The vampirism is very sexual. There's a kind of NTR risk tension to it, but that seems to be serving to establish that Shizuku (the vampire protagonist) loves Ichigo (the human assigned as her partner) more than just vampirically desiring her. One vampire in particular, Minato, wants to get her fangs into Ichigo and Minato's human tries to tempt Shizuku to feed on her. Minato runs a club which is sort of the vampire equivalent of an orgy/swingers gathering where they feed on each other's humans. Shizuku was aroused but uncomfortable with joining.
>>2419619 This must be what it was like when Victorian elitists were complaining that Sherlock Holmes wasn't progressing faster during its 40 years of publication. A couple years and you get 140 chapters practically translated at the speed of the internet but you still whine like an idiot. Masterpieces don't create themselves overnight you dumb fuck.
>>2420658 If you can't see the way QT progressively gays it up with SJ more with every new chapter after the confession made her clam up because she is scared of intimacy then you are mentally unfit to read.
>>2420722 Long after we are dead and buried Their Story will continue touching people's hearts because it is written competently and drawn with loving skill. I doubt any of /u/s will be lucky enough to have impacted so many lives in a positive way because of what we created in our brief lives, but if I can contribute anything to this world it should be this: you go right ahead and fuck yourself you big dummy.
>Start wanting to watch El Cazador de la Bruja again, thanks to Princess Principal >Feel like buying it since I never could in the past and it's one of those animus that's just dear to me >The only options are affordable region locked DVDs from NA or super expensive Jap volumes
God fucking damn it. I saw a website that said a certain number of animus from NA can be played in Region 2 and El Cazador was on that list, is anyone able to confirm that it's possible? I really want it but I don't want to waste money on a slim hope from one website.
>>2420785 >Is that only when you change the disk drive's region settings No that's normal DVD player, cheap DVD players usually play everything because chinks don't give a shit, get yourself $20 Malta or Panasonic from ebay or whatever aliexpess is selling for the same price just check if it's all region and you won't need anything else.
>>2421112 It's a tad bit early to be calling AngeCharlotte bait though.
I think part of it is Diakko has Diana. I guarantee most people who ship Diakko have Diana high up on their favourite LWA character list even if Akko isn't up there. Plus both Diana and Akko have boatloads of character development together compared to the other witches and LWA is a series that's been around longer so it has more traction.
>>2421112 It isn't. It was appealing back when LWA was still an OVA, but honestly the show has done a huge disservice to Akko's character and the OVA that I just don't feel like shipping her with anyone.
And if you want to watch actual over the top bait you have to watch Symphogay. Pic related knocks all the ships you mention out of the water.
>>2421112 I'll wait until PriPri end to conclude, but for now, AngePrincess is the most appealing ship of 2017, followed by Diakko. The anime basically destroyed Akko, and I'm only liking that ship because of how based Diana is.
You don't often get a devoted husbando who wield guns and kill men in cold blood like Ange.
Unless the characters explicitly kiss or seriously declare their love for each other, the ships are bait. I respect something like CCS, which has an actual explicitly lesbian character, over spineless garbage like Symphogear, FlipFlappers, Izetta or even Nanoha. I don't see how they're any different from LWA or your average Precure seasons, and those are shows for little girls.
I'll give PriPri until the end, but I'm sure it will remain bait.
>>2421170 >>2421173 >>2421175 >>2421176 I'm the OP of that comment and this made me realize that I just don't like power-balance ships. The whole "princess-female knight" dynamic doesn't appeal to me at all.
>>2421186 Just to check, are you watching Princess Principal?
And why like Diakko more then? Diana is perfect and is a master of magic while Akko is a bumbling idiot. They're that 'Perfect Student/Loser' dynamic which is more cliched than 'princess/knight' in yuri.
Shiznat isn't quite the same though. Shizuru is openly in love with Natsuki and they had an ending which kept the possibility of a relationship open. That's not to say the fans didn't proceed to rule the ship, but what I mean is that the show itself did lend a hand to the ship's survival.
>>2421192 Interpret what? Shizuru is canonically lesbian, raped the girl she liked on screen. And the writer confirm Natsuki turned down Takeda's confession and chose to date Shuzuru instead. It's one of the most glorious /u/ win of the millenia, together with KnM.
>>2421207 Flip Flappers goes out of its way to explicitly established Cocona as a lesbian. The episode with all the fake Papikas is the one that cements her as a lesbian who's also faithful to the original Papika when all she does is hang out with the fake boys as a friend. Yes, she does blush when she sees one of the boys in a wet shirt, but that's okay because her sexuality was in the process of getting nailed down, very few children understand their sexuality immediately and it can be confusing.
>>2421218 I watched up to episode 5. I'm probably going to finish it until after it finishes. I don't think the "they're actually the other but just pretending" would do much to change my own tastes about it, though.
>>2421212 1. You missed a lot of recent canon shows 2. Marimite was not bait. Nobody got boyfriends/married in the end. 3. Bait does not equal Class S. Class S was a genre which died in the early 20th century. Most of Class S was bait, but there are no recent Class S works. I wish people stop using that term for god's sake.
>>2421219 Fair enough. What I take from it is that they are far more equal than what 'princess/knight' implies because of their backstories and their continuing characterisation. So in the end I just can't see it as a 'power-balance dynamic' like you describe.
>>2421210 Yup, Miku from Symphogear is canon man. I think due to the fact that this was established all the way back in season 1, and with so much stuff (and ships) happening from then till now, it's quite easy to forget.
>>2421220 >3. Bait does not equal Class S. Class S was a genre which died in the early 20th century. Most of Class S was bait, but there are no recent Class S works. I wish people stop using that term for god's sake.
Curiously, Oreimo uses elements similar to those of class-S, that also can have as excuse to the incopetencia of the authors to write a decent end.
>>2421202 The problem is not that Shizuro is Lesbian or not, because Baka-test, Railgun or Nyaryko, also have a lesbian character and ruin it completely. The problem is that people interpret the couple as they want, the only thing that made the official statement is that they became a couple, because the real Anime did not have the balls to do it.
Mai-hime had bases, but LWA did not have anything, only interpretation convinced in the first two OVA's and that they gladly ignored what really happened in the real Anime and saw it in the way that suited them.
It had a real Het plan, but the people were noisy and the staff found out that "water gets wet" and they decided on the Het romance and threw last minute fanservice into the faces of the people and "Anime of the Year"
How do you consider when a female character is clearly in love with another woman? is not the central theme, but it's pretty obvious (unless you're an idiot)
>>2421220 Marimite is as canon as Mai Hime. Sei is a lesbian, has an explicit if ill-fated romance with Shiori (although Mai Hime ended rather ill-fated for ShizNat too, until later materials and Mai Otome gave them an better resolution). The Marimite principal also had an explicit yuri relationship back in the day as well. In the LNs up to where it was translated a couple years ago, Sei stays gay (goes kinda bit more butch with the haircut) at uni, gets strongly shipped with Kei but it wasn't resolved at the part of the series I was at. But Sei is always flirting with girls and never dudes for many LN volumes after the anime series ended.
I'm finding this debate about Little Witch Academia's and it's popularity interesting. I haven't been on here in forever, and while I hand-pick all my anime watching (Yuri and non-Yuri shows, but Yuri is a must), this title flew right under my radar.
I feel like there's a large boat I missed somewhere.
>>2421250 >It's prevalent in western works. So yeah, stuff few people on /u/ are likely to have actually read. No. It is not something that could have been in a Western work. This is the problem: too many people here think they know what S is, when they'e just ignorant of what it actually was.
>>2421244 It wasn't really popular here in /u/ actually. People rarely talked about it outside its own thread, and when they do it's mostly just complaining about the het-baiting Trigger forced in the anime for god knows why.
>>2421289 It's funny that some people say that it became "dark" like Madoka or something like that. Even in parts that may be considered dark, it is fairly smooth, Precure in general to made things much darker.
Since this is a thing again can someone who really knows jap explain to me the meaningful differences between suki and aishiteru? Because I feel like we used to want suki, but now people say that isn't enough and we need aishiteru, and the last time I heard that was between father-daughter. And I can't recall off the top of my head anywhere else I've heard it.
Seems like people here seem convinced the suki+"you and only you will do" in flipflap wasn't gay which seems really weird to me.
>>2421316 Hello, I'm a weeb who will pretend to know what she's talking about. Suki is a casual way to say you like someone as a friend OR a casual way to say you love a family member or romantic partner. Aishiteru is a very serious declaration of love to a romantic partner.
I would also say suki is a more appropriate term for love for younger people to use, since they aren't fully matured and don't truly understand everything about love.
>>2421329 like and love can often be synonymous, but if you're looking for an english equivalent suki = like.
just as like can imply romantic interest so can suki, but its usually not the same as love aka ai. e.g. you wouldn't confess to someone saying you love them, you'd say you're interested or you like them.
its not perfect, but it works.
ai is also similar to love in that you don't typically say you love someone who isn't really close, like family or a long time lover.
I think it's also important to distinguish 大好き, but I've seen Japanese people sort of admit that it's hard to express feelings in their language. So context is probably the most important thing. Confessions are king imo
>>2421359 >unpopular truth Please. That's what everyone on /u/ outside of the LWA general thinks. An actual unpopular truth would be that Andrew and Diana were basically the same character who had the same relationship with Akko. Saying that he ruined the show (it was still mediocre, but not because of him) is just a blatant overreaction.
>>2421600 Subtext hints at something and you have to read into it to get it, but the affection between Shirabe and Kirika doesn't really allow for reading into it. I mean they sing a duet saying they love each other and should kiss.
>>2421600 I think the point is that while you can think of HibiMiku and DMJii relationship as subtext, Miku's love for Hibiki and DMJii's affection for each other are not. There is no reading between the lines when every season they feel compelled to shove their declaration of love into our faces. The show as a whole can be considered subtext, because we don't know the nature of their relationships are romantic or not, but who needs confirmation when we have meme sub like this.
Though the actual line is not that far off, it's something along the line of "I want to feel her warmth"
>>2421556 Subtext doesn't mean "not actually gay, but you can think of them that way if you want". It means that you can infer that certain characters are meant to be gay, even if the show doesn't outright show them becoming a couple or doing things that only couples do (like kissing romantically, not just for plot reasons).
Most of /u/'s shows fall in that category (and there's nothing wrong with that). If Izetta had ended with the show showing us that the Archdyke and Izetta got secretly married, or even just kissed then I wouldn't call it a subtext show. But as it is, it's still subtext (even though it's very strong subtext). The same goes with FliFla (See: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A7%E5%A5%BD%E3%81%8D)
>>2421642 >I don't believe a kiss or getting married is necessary to stop being subtext Those aren't the only things I would put in that category, just the most obvious ones. Even a simple scene of Fine telling Izetta how much she loves (not likes) her would have been enough.
>The broomride scene alone won multiple yuri romantic competitions. Sure, because it's a good yuri scene. Subtext doesn't mean 'not yuri'. Like I said, many of /u/'s fave shows fit in that category.
>>2421244 It's got its ups and downs storywise, but it's cute and fun and hella well-drawn. If a show where smiling and handholding saves the world sounds like something you'd enjoy, I'd give it a shot. >>2421626 Huh? The only actual romance in that episode was the blond guy getting friendzoned by Lotte.
>>2421662 It's not waifufags. They couldn't care less if their waifu was gay; they'll just convert her and her waifu for a threesome. Why do you think their are so many "lesbian" characters in harem anime? The real culprit's are purityfags who don't want the girls to have male or female love interests.
And personally, I don't mind purityfags seeing as how they actually have buying power.
>>2421669 Something tells me the finale will have less impact if you have no idea who this blue-haired bitch on a roomba is and what the deal is with the tree chick and so forth. And I can't in good conscience tell anon to skip stuff like the broom race and the journey through Sucy's subconscious and Constanze's mecha adventure.
>>2421714 Oh well. But in hindsight LWA TV series has no rights to be so mediocre after how good the OVA was. Hell, even the Terio manga has far better character focus and much more fun adventures.
>>2421631 The idea certainly isn't bad. Point is Andrew was first built to be a romantic lead, and even though the idea was scraped you can still definitely see remnants of it in 6 and 10, since one of the writers was definitely very interested in the idea. Which in the end leads to his development being rather half-baked, i guess? Besides, Akko is not even a lesbian so that point is moot anyway.
>>2421665 >Huh? The only actual romance in that episode was the blond guy getting friendzoned by Lotte.
Did you forget about rich boy getting stung by the love bee too? Maybe it's not "actual" romance, but it's still clearly het-pandering. While I didn't really mind him in his first appearance, that episode was when I put my foot down. Seriously, fuck Trigger. It's not a yuri-friendly anime when one half of the "main" pairing is involved in het subtext.
>>2421739 Diana got stung to fall in love with herself, you think that was selfcest pandering? Heck, some random background character got stung to fall in love with a dog, and I don't think we're supposed to see bestiality subtext. Love potion shenanigans that never get followed up on aren't subtext, they're just shenanigans.
>>2421798 The point isn't the name, sis, it's that it didn't exist (except, as mentioned, with friendzoned guy and Lotte). There was no more evidence of anything romantic between Akko and the guy than there was between Diana and Diana. In both cases all that happened was that someone acted in love when hit with the thing that magically makes people fall in love until a bee gets swatted.
I swear, anons here get their het goggles screwed on tighter than their yuri ones.
>>2421812 Okay, maybe I should've used het-pandering instead of het subtext. Yes, there was no "romance", but the point is that kind of plot shouldn't even exist in the first place if it's an actual yuri-friendly show.
>>2421818 I agree, but I'm just happy that they didn't go any further with that. I was dreading an Andrew x Akko end from his first appearance outside of the opening. It's honestly a good sign for us that they axed het romance after going that far.
>>2418316 Do you hear the Idols sing? Singing the songs of angry men? It is the music of the people Who will NOT be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes!
The writers explicitly stated LWA was not yuri. You're an idiot if you're reading the subtext as anything but baseless pandering to get you to buy shit. There might not be a het romance, but we have confirmation there isn't and there will never be a yuri one either.
>>2421945 Only if they explicitly say that said fisting is due to unambiguous romantic feelings, otherwise it's just another display of friendship they will remember with fondness once they both get married to men.
My girlfriend tells me eating pussy is vital for lesbian health, so she makes me eat her pussy at least 3 times a day saying she is doing it for my health. But is it true? What does lesbian science say about it?
>>2422065 No, but I have a pretty bad health in general and she says this is necessary for me get healthier. Although I don't understand why she tells me to eat her pussy in public sometimes when we can do that while at home.
>>2422085 Since your brain can't fully comprehend the point, and you can't even goggle what "subtext" means, I'll do you a favour: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtext
In order to be canon yuri, the character's sexuality have to be main text. I.e. in-show admission of homosexuality (like Stopani or KnM) or writer's confirmation in interview (like Sailor Moon or Legend of Korra). Anything else fall under the territory of subtext, no matter how obvious it is. SUBTEXT IS NOT A MATTER TRUTH OR FALSE, understand?
>>2422134 While the argument of the term subtext is wrong( you're correct) I think people just get confused because there are varying levels of subtext but not really a good term to describe it. Some shows, like symphogear are very obvious and everyone can see they're gay. Other shows, like precure or even love live, are very vague and you have to have your goggles ready for it.
People just need a better word to describe the more vague stuff and stop using subtext.
>>2422156 I would not go so far, Hibike is proudly bait, but LWA is more bad writing, they said that there would not be Yuri, but that did not stop them from hitting people in the face, their itencion was a generic Het romance, but things did not they worked and then they pulled out Yuri fanservice at the last minute and everyone was happy.
Yoshinari's initial vision was that Akko is the kind of girl who would fall for any ikemen. He also wants to have some variety (ie male character) in the cast, thus Andrew was created. One of the main writers for the show, Shimada, was also interested in developing a romance. However, that idea got opposed by almost everyone from the staff including Producer because they feel like romance would overshadow Akko's love for magic and makes it feels like she is just working hard for Andrew. So in the end they shot down the romantic aspect of Akko and Andrew relationship. They still keep some remnant of it in ep 10 though, as a compromise for Shimada because Yoshinari likes that kind of wacky stuff. But in the end Yoshinari still likes the show as it is, I guess.
>>2422209 LWA is extremely mediocre imo. It's good if you want to pass time but I would not recommend it on /u/.
>>2422261 It's mediocre, it's westernbait at best, but it does not have much merit, really. It is another Anime inflated by Hype, nothing more, if it were not for fanarts Yuri, would have been forgotten along with all the Animes that go out of fashion.
>>2422021 Those hetero couples have other obvious ways of showing that they're a couple.
The problem with "like" instead of "love" is that the former is used for close friends and familial love as well, so there's still ambiguity.
Just to reiterate though, I'm not saying that subtext couples aren't yuri. Sometimes it's stupidly obvious that we're meant to know that two girls got together in the end, but they still don't just come out and say it.
For an infamous example, >Epilogue showing what happened to the characters after the manga ended >Girl A got married in year X >Girl B got married in year X >Here's an image of A and B dressed in traditional male and female wedding attire
You'd have to be dense to deny that's meant to be taken any other way than them being married to each other. But notice how even then they didn't just say >Girl A and B got married to each other in year X
>>2422297 >those hetero couples have other obvious ways of showing that they're a couple >sometimes it's stupidly obvious that we're meant to know that two girls got together in the end How is it obvious? Because they used the same ways to show it that the hetero couples use, which is how you can tell the "like" was romantic, the "like" doesn't come alone, it has a context, and can be seen as romantic if you know the context of the relationship between the girls.
>>2422362 nah, /u/ has always been shit, that's why I only come here periodically to save me some nice yuri pics, quickly consult if X game or series is yuri enough to amerit buying / watching and then I get the fuck out of this madhouse
>>2422368 It's not that bad. There is far less waifu-faggotry here than /a/ and when there isn't a hysteria fueled screaming match going on, which you have to actually seek to get it's quite civil in it's discussion and news. /u/'s problem is that because it's slow two autists having a bitch fit is more apparent than other boards.
>>2422244 >>2422001 >Half of /u/ doesn't like Idolmaster because of the Producer-san self-insert >Half of /u/ doesn't like LWA anime because of its producer's attempt at making het romance I wish we have a lesbian version of the thinking emoji.
>>2422410 Because I hate males and heterosexuality so much that the mere thought of people discussing them on /u/ repulses me. This should be a yuri wonderland untainted by the very idea of a Y chromosome. Anyone who even utters the h-word should be cast out for being corrupted by that filth.
I just read Lemonade and wow, what a terrible fuckin manga. It's almost worth reading to see what a train wreck it is. I've never seen such a shoehorned ending in my entire life. Written an entire 4 years after the fact with practically no setup, amazing.
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