Why aren't there more examples of tomboy yuri? It seems

>>2355971
>might appeal to actual lesbians.
what gain is there in doing this?

That niche is already filled by the genki short-haired athletic types, and the prince types.

why would yuri want to appeal to actual lesbians.

That's a much smaller demographic than say men.

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What do you consider tomboy yuri?
There's plenty of athletic girls who'd easily fit the role of tomboy. Its one of the most common couplings in fact.

Or do you mean complete bull-dyke? Cause noone likes complete bulldyke mode.

lesbians are like less than 1% of the pop, and even less of us are into anime.

>>2355987
Can confirm, most lesbians are normalfags. No reason to pander to them, better to bait the people who romanticize girls love.

If I wanted realism I'd go to a local gay club.

>>2355980
So yuri fans are mostly straight/bi girls?

>>2356110
No.
Men.

>>2356110
Demographic is women, of any sexuality.
The ones who actually buy it, who knows. Shounen has as demographic little boys, but women (mostly fujos) buy it as much as them nowadays, maybe even more.

Anyway, lesbians who are into anime probably don't care about realism anywa, because...no one who watches anime cares about it.

>>2356118
I wouldn't be surprised if men were the main demographic of the more smut type of yuri.
But for the romance and stuff that yuri is more well known for it seems to lean more female.

>>2356134
Mebae had a clear male demographic.
Gallette has a clear female demographic.
Yuri Hime is trying to get both.

>>2356136
I mean yeah there's clearly an audience of both, but it really is story based.
i.e. murcielago is going to have a vastly different audience than girlfriends which has a vastly different audience than yuru yuri etc...

>>2356147
That's why I consider yuri a demographic itself, rather than a genre. I can't say that Love Live is in the yuri genre, for example, but since most yuri fans make fan work based on it, it clearly is in the yuri demographic.
Same thing for Murcielago, Yuru Yuri, Citrus, etc... They all have their own genre and are pretty different, but they all are in the same demographic: "If you like girls who like girls, you might like this".
That's why japanese consider lesbian western works as yuri, or that they say Gravity Rush 2 is a yuri game.

And yeah, in the past, the yuri demographic tried to appeal only to women, but it's gotten more diverse nowdays. What is a good thing, because it's the only way it can grow.

>>2355987
Its more like 11%, well homosexuals in general.

>>2356118
Lots of laughs.

>>2356134
That's a stereotype of men that doesn't really apply to yuri fans. They like romance stories.

>>2356160
>And yeah, in the past, the yuri demographic tried to appeal only to women, but it's gotten more diverse nowdays. What is a good thing, because it's the only way it can grow.
Yeah, yuri is a very vast world and it can attract a very diverse audience. Everyone likes yuri for different reasons and wants different things in the yuri thay read. So it's stupid saying that yuri in general panders to a certain demographic specifically, it depends what kind of yuri you're talking about. This is one of the things I like in yuri, it can evolve, sometimes it can produce good stuff and sometimes bad stuff.

>>2355991
>Can confirm, most lesbians are normalfags
I can say the opposite, instead. I think it depends on lots of different factors. All the lesbians I know are nerdy types.

Photo of the people waiting to go into GirlsLoveFestival20:
https://twitter.com/KomaHiryu_MS9/status/871183065254567936

Crowd for a Netsuzou Trap event:
https://twitter.com/NetsuzouTRap/status/860779552930279426

>>2356118
this meme needs to die
most yuri hime readers have vaginas

>>2356303
They haven't released that kind of information since before it merged with Yuri Hime S

>>2356303
Doesn't mean they're women

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>>2355971
Is this tomboy enough?

(one of the few recent manga from a shoujo or josei publication with a protag dealing with lesbian feelings)

>>2356295
I'd disagree. Have you seen the conversations of more smut based yuri? Usually almost exclusively men.

>>2356323
So? That's not to say that men cannot like romance stories.

>>2356323
Regardless of whether that's true, do you realize that means nothing for whether the second sentence of >>2356134 is true or just an assumption based on a stereotype?

>>2355971
>might appeal to actual lesbians

Oh boy here we go

>>2356305

http://www.cyzo.com/2008/0/post_350_entry.html

>>2356407
Exactly: that's from 2008, before Yuri Hime and Yuri Hime S merged.

>>2356329
>>2356330
"lean" doesn't equate to being solely female. just that the majority tends to be female.

>>2356323
>women don't like smut
people actually believe this?

>>2356490
It's not that women don't like smut exactly, but it is a predominantly male market. And when women read/watch smut it's typically in a different manner than men. Plus it you read much yuri smut, 80% of it is clearly male targeted.

>>2356487
Why would you think that's how it's being taken? Is it so hard to imagine that men might be the majority of yuri romance fans that you don't even think someone would be disagree with someone saying it's women instead?

>>2356315
Got a title for that?

>>2356851
東の空が白むころ by 小鬼36℃, from Wings

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>>2355987
>lesbians are like less than 1% of the pop
>>2356227
>more like 11%, well homosexuals in general

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/20/drop-in-teenage-suicide-attempts-linked-to-legalisation-of-same-sex-marriage
>14%

>>2356493
>And when women read/watch smut it's typically in a different manner than men
What? Do you think women read with their books slanted or something?

I'm sure you haven't actually thought this through. Everything you just said is not based on actual data, but rather on some sort of vague understanding of marketing beliefs, which are quite questionable themselves.

For example, this research, which was posted here a long time ago (http://ubt.opus.hbz-nrw.de/volltexte/2015/944/pdf/Maser_Beautiful_and_Innocent.pdf) shows the sort of unjustified logic most yuri editors have. They don't even know what people actually want, and they seem to put very little effort into researching this (mostly through simple surveys), so they just use their personal judgement most of the time. Seeing this, it's quite easy to understand why Yuri Hime did this weird branching in and out with spinoffs of itself; it was an attempt to capture a market that probably wasn't even understood by its higher ups.

>>2355971
Lesbian here. The current yuri manga/manhwa cater to me well enough. I heavily dislike tomboy in yuri since I'm a femme who is into femmes. I love princely type, but only if they have long hair like Shizuma of Stopani, Mirei of Valkyrie Drive, Uzuki of Akaiito, etc.

>>2357275
Do you self-insert when reading your yuri?

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>>2357275
I'm also a lesbian, and while I'm mostly into femmes like you, I also like tomboys. I find them really cute (girls like Makoto from im@s, for example) and I wish there were more of them in yuri, instead of being in stories where the message is "you too can be girly if you want! To appeal men!". So while I'm satisfied with most yuri, I would also like to see more "boyish" girls sometimes.

>>2357384
>Makoto from im@s
Most of these "tomboys" are just girly with short hair though, not actually tomboys.

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>>2357393
I wouldn't exactly call Makoto a "girly" girl with short hair, though. That sounds more like Kanade from Cinderella Girls, not a character who is very "boyish" in her way of acting/dressing. Of course, most girls like her always end up wearing a dress in some episode, but I'd say it's because of how strict anime (and Japan in general) is with gender roles. But I'm curious, what character would you call an actual tomboy?

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>>2357424
To be honest, I haven't watched any of those idol shows. Also, I'm not the person you were replying to originally.
As for who I'd think is a tomboy... perhaps Sun Jing from Their Story. She dresses slightly masculine and is "one of the boys".

>>2357278
Rarely. Unless I'm particularly into a character's girlfriend (e.g. Fujino Shizuru or Yakumo Yukari), I mostly just read to see people unrelated to myself falling in love.

>>2357384
I also don't like moeshit or slutshit that obviously only act lesbian to turn men on. But there's a huge gap between that and tomboys, and most yuri I've seen are inside that gap: both reasonably feminine girls falling in true love. Note that my requirement for feminity only stop at appearance, I don't care if the personality of one girl is masculine.

>>2355971
There are like 900 of them.

>>2355971
well i'm a tomboy. but i prefer to read fem4fem since its cuter and seems more pure

>>2365131
...where exactly?

>>2357017
>the guardian
That's neither a reliable nor an objective source.

>>2355971
I'm a lesbian and tomboys are shit, ugly, and completely unappealing to me. Give me femme or handsome girls, but never a tomboy.

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>>2369249
Rude.

>>2357143
>What? Do you think women read with their books slanted or something?

porn made for men is usually unappealing to most women. especially lesbian porn.

>>2369249
that's cool, we probably wouldn't get along anyways.

i don't care about tomboys or femmes, i just want lesbians that aren't fat or depressed.

>>2370784
>i just want lesbians that aren't fat or depressed
I feel your pain.

>>2370784
Depressed lesbians are great, as long it isn't gayngst.

>>2370846
I think she meant 3D lesbians, and 3D depressed is almost always annoying to be around.

>>2370856
Why would she mean 3D lesbians when lesbians in fiction was the topic in the first place?

Anyways, I'm on the fence about depressed lesbians since literally me. I agree that as long as it's not gayngst it's good, but I like edgy shit better than fluffy so eh.

>>2370859
Because fat and depressed is rare in 2D but common in 3D. But I'll digress.

>>2369249
Kase-san proves that you are objectively wrong.

>>2370872
I actually didn't mind the tomboy in Kase-san that much, she was cuter than most others imo, but I still would have enjoyed it more if she wasn't one.

Idk. Any other lesbians or whoever are free to like tomboys but like I said they're just not appealing to me. I guess I don't like the in-between of femme and handsome.

>>2370856
can it be both?

i don't want these things in my 2d because they exist in excess in the real world.

>>2370859
gayngst is the worst. i can't get through anything that even has "but we're both girls".

as for non-gayngst depression/mental illness, it depends on how it's portrayed. i'm good with angst. i like stories with difficult conflict. i'm not a big fan of love somehow solving a protagonist's internal problems, but sometimes it's a nice fantasy.

i've dated someone depressed to the point of being suicidal on top of other issues. before that i was best friends with someone else who was suicidal. they both came out of it for the better. that was good, but it burned me out. it was stressful. the relationship contributed to my own stint in depression. sometimes depression is portrayed as just "sad and nobody loves me" or "i'm horrible and full of regret" which is healed by the LI just being like, "no i really do love you!" the reality of dating a depressed person includes shit like having to unfuck the piles of dishes in their room because they're too god damn depressed to clean. it's being terrified the last text you got is really the last time you'll hear from them when you're trying to sleep before a big day. it sucks. but y'know, love.

i'm working on writing something that deals with a post-breakup depressed protag and the unwashed, greasy hair, perpetually drunk glory that comes with it.

>>2370900
Depression isn't usually portrayed. A depressed person doesn't always have depression, if that makes sense.

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>>2357435
goes full tomboy when party mode is engaged.

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>>2371072

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>>2371075

>>2355980
>>2356118
Most yuri I've seen can be easily categorised as shoujo. It is heavily focused on romance and men don't read that.
Second most yuri is josei. Only men who are interested in women's literature will find an appeal to that.
The only yuri which is seinen and definitely caters towards men is Murciélago as far as I can recall.
And I can't remind of any yuri that is also a shounen.

Yuri caters towards women, because romance has a larger appeal to them. If yuri wants to cater towards men, have more action and adventure going on in these.

>>2355987
That would still make 70 million people.

>>2371091
I'm a bit confused.

Your definition of "yuri" seems to be series that are specifically focused around the romance between females. But that would make Murcielago not yuri.

>>2371102
I guess that anon's definition of yuri is "lesbian romance as either the main plot or subplot." He/she doesn't count ambiguous series.

>>2371091
Your perception of yuri being mostly shoujo stems from the fact that it's what you mostly chose to read (I also assume you mostly read what's on dynasty scans only). And vice versa for anybody who thinks yuri mostly cater men: it's what they chose to read (I also assume these mostly read from sadpanda). This confirmation bias is why there's always a bipolar argument about the actual demography of yuri. There's also the problem of what is currently translated do not reflect the actual publication scene in Japan.

Manga: I read all demographics, spying on Japanese review blogs and Toranoana/Melon new publication, published manga and original doujin and doujin, and I can confidently say the market is filled with nearly 50% shoujo and 50% seinen. There's little josei and even less shounen, but they do exist. The thing with shounen yuri is that it's hard to differentiate them from seinen. E.g. is "Banana no Nana" shounen or seinen? I'd say it's shounen, but the sex scene on the moon seems to put it squarely in the seinen field. How about shounen-style sport series like Saki, Girls und Panzer, Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume,...? All branded as seinen because ecchi.

Yuri VN/game: typically featuring both shoujo-style emotional development and seinen-style sex scenes, so it's hard to tell.

Anime (not counting hentai): seems to be an even split between shoujo and seinen again. The only difference is that older anime are mostly explicit yuri (some exceptions: Card Captor Sakura), whereas after 2004 it's mostly subtext (some exceptions: Valkyrie Drive, Aoi Hana, Sasameki Koto).

LNs: I don't read much so can't conclude which demography prevails here. The only ones I read are seinen ones adapted into anime (Magical Girl Raising Project, YuYuYu).

>>2371091
You are carrying a wrong assumption about what men read. You also don't seem to know much about the demographic categories.

Trying look up what magazines yuri manga have been serialized in.

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>>2357017
14% drop doesn't mean shit in actual numbers of people since self-pwning is so much more common that gays are over-repraztenin'.

Also that 10% of the population is gay thing is from a retarded and disingenuous Stonewall survey which used questions like 'have you ever had a gay thought' to generate gay people. Presumably gay people who ever had a straight thought have to hand in their cards.

>>2371171
Subtext is not yuri. It's desperation.

>>2371091
If you look at yuri manga from non-yuri print periodicals, you will find they're more likely to be from seinen and shounen publications than shoujo or josei ones.

Here's some male oriented magazines and one or two examples of yuri from them:

Dengeki Daioh (YagaKimi, Kago no Shoujo wa Koi wo Suru)
Comic Alive (AnoKiss, Sasameki Koto)
Comic High (Girl Friends, 15-sai)
Shounen Sirius (Sayonara Giulietta, Kamitsuki Gakuen)
Kirara Forward (Futakaku Kankei, Itsuka Watashi wa Kimi wo Uragiru)
Kirara Miracle (Sakura Trick)
Young Comic (Black Lily and White Lily, Lily System)
Young Gangan (Murcielago, Hidan no Aria AA)
Shounen Magazine R (Haru Yuri)
Comic ExE (Futatsu no Rasen)
Afternoon (Octave)
Comic Birz (Yuri Kuma Arashi)
HiBaNa (After Hours)

Now, I bet some people would count some of the series mentioned above as shoujo or josei, and it could be pointed out that shounen and seinen magazines aren't exclusively aimed at a male audience and do run series that are more popular with female readers.

But try making an equivalent list with shoujo and josei publications.

>>2371472
You can leave the yuri world then.

>>2371911
I was going by the theme, not by the publication.
Girl Friends is definitely Shoujo. The theme was on cosmetics and basically nothing happened in the first volume.

>>2371921
>yuri-rant.webm
but seriously, it's people like you why yuri authors think they can get away with low quality bait.
Instead of being upset, you turned it into some kind of genre. No sis, it's time to get self-confident. Stop begging for leftovers or at least don't hold people back, who demand full meals.

>>2371091
>It is heavily focused on romance and men don't read that.
They usually don't, except when it features lesbians.

Your mistake is in looking at the demographics of romance in general and then assuming that holds true for lesbian romance.

>>2371922
If all yuri fans everywhere somehow decided to stop supporting shows that feature yuri subtext, then the most that will happen is that any hint of yuri will disappear from mainstream shows.

The reason those shows don't go any further is that we're a niche audience. We aren't suddenly going to get more anime that caters to what we want.

>>2371922
>low quality bait
The only bait is the bait-and-switch. I can appreciate the subtext as much as the explicit content. One of the appealing points of yuri is its subtlety atmosphere and elegance, this is way I like subtext.

>>2371922
>Girl Friends is definitely Shoujo. The theme was on cosmetics and basically nothing happened in the first volume.
It's from Comic High, which was a magazine aimed at men who like shoujo.

>>2371927
But this is literally what I did.
I switched to Korean. They actually deliver.

You anons kept recommending me stuff, that had nothing in them. Or subtext as you called it.
But all I saw was non-yuri. So you basically end up with a mediocre plot and mediocre characters, who on top of that fail to deliver their selling point.
Now that I think about it, I may actually be mad at you guys. Since you treat explicit and subtext as if it was something interchangeable.

>>2371937
That's just your problem.

>>2371937
Nice blog, faggot. No one cares.

>>2371940
Yet I am getting so many (you)s
On a slow board no less.
By the looks of it we are having a talk that is long overdue.

>>2371944
>Yet I am getting so many (you)s
I'm not sure you could be more underage and out of place if you tried.

>a talk that is long overdue.
>something that is discussed all the time across the board
Please go back to wherever you came from.

>>2371944
Just leave. You clearly don't understand board culture at all.

>>2371947
>>2371949
All I am saying is just don't force your defeatist /r9k/ behaviour unto others.
Your taste are not absolute. As a matter of fact they are barely present. If you are content with nothing, fine by you. Don't blame me for wanting something.

>>2371937
>gookshit
Here's your reply.

>>2371937
>Since you treat explicit and subtext as if it was something interchangeable.
I can enjoy subtext shows but this is definitely something people do here and it sucks. I can't count how many times I've seen anons recommend a subtext show to someone looking for a show with a concrete, explicit relationship.

Like I said I can enjoy subtext relationships but it's totally understandable that those aren't enough for you. I don't know why other anons are being shitty at you about it.

>>2371950
>ask for recs
>get recs
>act like we secretly killed your dog because it wasn't what you wanted
>when what you wanted was vague
Good job. Realize you're disappointed because it's not what you wanted, not because we tricked you. We can't recommended you stuff if you're vague to begin with or if we don't know your tastes.

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TomboyxGirlyGirl is good

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My favorite is when the feminine girl is acting aggressively sexual towards the tomboy.

tomboy/tomboy is the forbidden fruit that is too delicious not to love

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You toy with forces beyond your ken.

>>2375334
Dem school shooter jackets

>>2375364
What? That's obviously a gakuran.

>>2372469
>ask for yuri
>get nothing
>vague

>>2355971
Because most tomboys are straight
>Inb4 muh anecdotal evidence
Majority of tomboys are straight and that isn't saying there aren't gay tomboys so calm down

>>2356227
No, homosexuals are literally a little less than 1% of the population

>It seems like more realistic characters might appeal to actual lesbians
>tomBOY

>>2357017

Huh? 14% drop in teenage suicide rate does not imply that 14% of the population is even LGBT, no less lesbian. That statistic would still be true if 7 straight kids committed suicide last year and 6 straight kids committed suicide this year. No implication at all on the overall proportion of the gay population.

Even 10% of the population is a ridiculous number for the overall number of LGBT people. Go to the most liberal cities in the world (where there is a far higher concentration of gay people) and even then it will be obvious that less than every tenth person you pass is gay. Since that is the case, how much more obvious is it that the concentration is lower overall? I often think the number of gay people is overestimated in America due to middle schoolers going "look dude, you can answer 'gay' on this survey! LMAO XD"

>>2356227
if that were true why the fuck can't I find anyone to date

>>2378846
>>tomBOY

c'mon, that's just a poor argument. it's a word that uses "boy" but has always been used to refer to a girl. and you assume all actual lesbians share the same preferences you do in their girls.

>>2379349
i might be able to help you with that.

>>2356124
lesbian yuri fan here, i like cute anime girls - dont really care what kind

>>2357275
femme4femme represent

>>2380075
I'm femme4femme IRL, I've always pretty much exclusively dated other femmes and am only attracted to them, but I really like masculine/handsome 2D women? Like prince types. I prefer them over femme anime lesbians, even. What does it mean.

>>2380077
It simply means that ideal representations found in 2D can appear highly attractive because of their segregation from 3D. Some things that are good in fiction simply don't translate into reality. It's not even a /u/ exclusive notion-- traps, yandere, loli, and futa are all other examples that can be fetishized in 2D but completely avoided in 3D.

>>2380085
you could have just said 2D>3D

>>2375367
>gakuran
Sorry I don't speak weeaboo

>>2355971
>expecting realism in my yuri
Tomboy representation is a minor concern, the fact 90% of yuri is high-schoolers or younger is more of an issue. Also as westerners, everyone being Japanese with only a smattering of blonde-haired foreigners westerners is not representative. But anyone reading yuri for long is there for the universal girl for girl love themes and gave up on realism or being directly relateable to our lives a long time ago.
But every genre has its major problems. Popular western series are always full of hetshit. Like L Word is coming back so we get more bisexual MC with het probs again (like we did in OITNB). Realism like this is overrated. At the same time, both these series lack realism in many ways. My main lack of realism beef with L Word was the complete absence of main Asian characters in LA which is filled with hot Asians.
But the thing that pisses me off most in all genre is lazy writing, especially the series where cheating is the only way they seem to know how to create drama.
OK, I'll stop with the ranting. Yuri is fine the way it is and there's always josei if you want 2D realism.

>>2380185
>expecting more blue-eyed western devil for better reprentation
>on an east asian media, set in japan, featuring mainly jappies

get a load of this gweilo

>>2380165
get out then

lesgen get out

>>2375292
Are you helping me discover a new type of preference? Thank you.

>>2380193
Also it's not like most manga/anime characters don't look like westerners already.

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>>2370900
Nice blog. Guarantee that whatever you're working on writing isn't worth reading.

>>2380075
femme4femme too. certain femme 'prince' types like Yui in Yuru are fine, but I never saw the point of getting wet over butch types or girls who actually look like boys. If I was into that, I'd be straight. Cool badass femmes like Rei Hino are a best though

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>>2387454
>blond hair
>big, round blue eyes
>taller than average women
>big boobs
>white skin with a pink hue

No guys, seriously. She's japanese. She has a japanese name.

>>2387878
Probably because they still have vaginas underneath it all. Same reason some straight women are into very androgynous men but would never fuck a woman. My tastes in women are pretty broad though.

>>2387888
Makes sense. Probably why I didn't understand why straight girls are into the androgynous guys; I always just thought they were closeted lesbos but a guys a guy. Lot of girls want to try fucking even a tomboy but when they get a faceful of pussy it's a different story

>>2387888
It's also the reason why some straight males like reverse traps.

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>>2388282
Calling out stupid blog shit will never not be relevant or necessary.

>http://sgcafe.com/2015/10/japanese-lesbians-choose-top-5-anime-characters-want-girlfriend-lover/

>>2388767
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>>2388834
I know, idiot. At least I contributed and shared some info.

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I know there's only one tomboy in this pic (2 if you count reverse traps I guess), but I wish there was more of the nozaki-kun girls.
especially kashima. I would faint if she was real.

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>>2393069
Kashima was so sexy. Those types of girls are the most appealing to me 2D wise.
Too bad she's actually straight. It should be a crime to make princely women straight ever.

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>>2393081
They're so great, right? I want someone like her to just sweep me off my feet and ask me if im okay or something.
I've started to like her type of character more since watching her show, like Cordelia from Granblue. Too bad she's only a Rare pull, she barely has any fanart because of that.

>>2393081
>>2393087
Is there such as thing as yuri involving two princely girls?

>>2393093
But that's not gap moe.

>>2393093
oh my god I fucking wish. I would love a manga where a princely girl confesses to another, and it goes something like "I'm sorry, I have to refuse. I'm not interested in you." "Oh, is it because of my appearance?" "Well, yes, you being a man does have something to do with it." "What? Im a girl, is your eyesight bad?"
My writings terrible but like, the initial confusion could be cute, then after the first chapter it becomes a wholesome yuri romance between two princely girls. Stuff like both showing up to a dance in suits, people confusing them for a gay (male) couple, only to be told "no, it's not like that at all. we're lesbians," or other situational comedy/romance.

>>2393093
Yes, Love DNA XX

>>2393093
Not particularly much I think. Plus, I don't think I'd be interested in that case. I really do prefer princely girls with their cute, soft femme lovers. Not because I self-insert or anything like that! Not at all...

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>>2393087
>>2393093
Granblue is great in that it has two characters that belong within the same archetype. One has long hair though, so she's clearly the femme.
I'd love me some Cordelia/Ange fanart.
...actually, I should request that in the drawthread.

>>2393100
That's not what that means.

>>2356110
They begin as "straight" girls then start sexualizing girls with one another and before you know it they like vagina. I know because it happened to me.

>>2393254
It's the same phenomenon that happens to men on other 4chan boards.

>>2393254
same thing happened to me. Utena (movie) turned me gay.
>>2393453
now /a/'s obsession with traps and /y/ makes perfect sense.

>>2393100
This
>>2393100

Gap moe is a one-character trait, not applicable to couples.

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>>2393254
This is what Madoka fucking did to me Made me realize I was not straight by any means of the imagination. Steins;Gate, which aired the next season, pretty much cemented it for me with Kurisu. Came to terms with it not long after aired.

Then I looked back at my childhood and whoa boy. I should've realized I was bi/lesbian/whatever the fuck I am wayyyyyyyy before I was 22.

>>2393741
You have perverted thought when you saw some stacy?

>>2393762
robot pls, this is now a lesbian only thread

>>2393767
Uh, I don't live in USA and never met a lesbian before, so I always wanted to ask this kind of question. Also, I don't brose r9k anymore

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>>2393254
This is so funny because same. When I was maybe... 11 or 12, my mom bought me the Strawberry Panic manga and when I read it I panicked because I thought it was making me gay and cried for my mom to take it back.

I probably flipped out like I did because I'd been having feelings for my first crush for a while and reading Strawberry Panic (and being really into it) pretty much cemented my being a lesbian and it freaked me the fuck out haha. A little bit sad and cute to think back on.

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>>2393106
>My writings terrible
>people confusing them for a gay (male) couple
>no, it's not like that at all. we're lesbians
You give yourself too little credit, that was hilarious to imagine.

>>2375292
>tfw me and my ex's relationship was exactly like this
god i hate being so lonely and autistic

>>2393776
not madoka / stein's gate oneechan but...
if you're genuinely curious, for me and a lot of other lesbos it's not just seeing some attractive girl some times. we're girls; same parts, etc, and a lot of the time our sexuality is more about chemistry and mental/emotional connection than just visual arousal like with men (exceptions, ofc)

for me and a lot of /u/ lesbians I know we realized we were gay from wanting to be really 'close' to our best friends at a certain age, and/or seeing two girls having a romantic relationship. so it's not so simple as 'i saw hot girl changing in gym' (though sometimes it is)

>>2393872
pardon me, but it does sounded like subtext yuri. But that is an interesting view actually.
Anyway, what do you think of hand holding? is it unironically nice or overrated?

> /u/ lesbians
I wonder if there is a secret cabal of lesbians overseeing /u/ and launch a coup once the time is right

>>2393872
I dunno, for me it was definitely seeing an attractive girl and going "damn, I'm gay". But what follows from seeing someone you're attracted to at 12 (which I was) and at 22 are usually quite different things.

>>2393905
I was a pretty precocious child who got bullied. If only I'd had a lolicon-oneechan to save me from my loneliness. i would have run away because i was also afraid of sex because people assume you're a pervert if you know you're gay at a young age

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>>2393901
>secret cabal of lesbians overseeing /u/
We've been here since the beginning.
>launch a coup
Unnecessary as long as you bitches remember you're little girls.

>>2393904
That's what I meant. When you're 12 it's like "I love being close to my friend. I want to be with her always, and I hate when boys talk to her. I really want to kiss her actually... and other things."

22 it's like "goddamn I want her to sit in my face." I was talking about early puberty awakenings stuff, I'm easily more perverted than most straight people I know (low key though)

>>2393901
holding hands is boring to me. I'd rather a girl put her arm around me or grab my ass. I'm not 12.
>secret cabal
It's not secret, only to the /a/ shits who don't get that girls love yuri

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>>2393907
You sounded more Yuzumori-ish, actually

>>2393908
>It's not secret, only to the /a/ shits who don't get that girls love yuri
I used to believe that, at least I believe that finding yuri fangirls are not that easy, even in /u/.
Not until 2015, which I found that more women vising /u/

>>2393923
>put her arm around me
Nice
>grab my ass
Pervert

lesgen get out

>>2393872
literally saw a hot girl changing during gym. can confirm this actually happens.

>>2394302
>(though sometimes it is)
glad to hear it. for me it was both cuddling a friend who stayed over, watching utena and finding sailor moon yuri doujins
>>2393928
>finding yuri fangirls not that easy
start drawing and posting stuff on pixiv and other places and you'll find us. also this site has a shit reputation for good reason, but a lot of yuri fan girls on tumblr too.there's a lot of bullshit you have to sort through to get to the good artists/people though. honestly there's kind of a secret lesbian cabal in western yuri fandom, you just have to dig a little to find it.
>pervert
it's great being a pervert

>>2371072
>>2371075
>>2371076
Sauce?

>>2394810
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/tanjiu/images

>>2394812
thanks nee-san

>>2394812
I hate the dimensions for chinese and korean comics. it makes it so difficult to read it on my ipad.

>>2393254
Oh no, this is me. I started getting into yuri with stuff like Strawberry Panic. Took me nearly 10 years of slicking to lesbians after that to realize "wait a sec, this is pretty gay. maybe I'm gay".

>>2394991
Don't you know that you might get her banned?

>>2395001
Report the fucking thread if you're that bothered. Won't stop idiots.

>>2394991
We're all little girls here.

>>2395020
That's /a/.

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>>2395181
We are here as well, except we are girls who prefer slow and elegant posting about girls who love girls.

>>2395139
>>2395170
Does it not snow where you guys live...? Here in the frozen tundra, pants are life.
They can make your butt look good too.

>>2395240
No it doesn't snow where I live. I can wear shorts and skirts every month except maybe December