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>CGI from 1993 is still the best we have ever seen How?

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>CGI from 1993 is still the best we have ever seen

How?
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>>87855690
Because that shot barely has any CGI. It's just the legs.
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>>87855690
The scene looks good only because of the lighting covering up the 90s CGI.

Compare it to the dinosaurs chasing them in the field and you will find that the CGI is not that great in broad daylight.
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Look at the feet.
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>>87855690
The pure CGI shots in this movie don't hold up, just look at the Brachiosaurus scene. It's the parts that are used with animatronics that still look great
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>>87855690
LOOK AT THE SIZE OF HIS HEAD! HAHAHA
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It's not.
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>>87855831
I always thought the T-Rexs in King King by Jackson were better. Be interesting to look now - but I don't have a copy of it.
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>>87855832
>disgruntled bellowing
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>>87855690
This is the only scene the CGI still looks good in. The brontosaur is looking very dated, the galliminus look downright terrible now.
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>>87855943
The T-Rex looks great in King Kong. The other dinos, not so much.
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It hasn't aged well
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Peter Jackson's King Kong has the best CGI we've ever seen though, and it still holds up today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LFQun4HQj8
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>>87855783
the last shot of the rex is in the light you homo
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The government forces movies to have bad CGI on purpose so that NASA's faked cgi images look more credible and won't be suspected as being faked
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CGI was never my friend
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>>87856048
Given it's from 1993, it has aged very well actually. That it looks "dated" instead of "absolute trash" after 25 years is impressive.
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>>87856084
>>87855690
The first Bayformers holds up better than either of these
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>>87856135
That's only ten years old dude. And it's machines, not creatures, much easier to make realistic looking.
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>>87856084
Why did Jackson put in all the Looney Tunes stuff, like in the beginning when the guy falls and he's obviously a second or two away from being trampled, but then the dinosaurs seem to pause off-screen long enough so that next time you see them the guy is still a second or two away from being trampled?
Why do Jackson movies always seem to have this shit?
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I imagine the experience of watching this back in 93
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>>87856168
Maybe he likes it
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>>87856113
t. Dana
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>>87856168
the best bit is where the man kicks the dinosar in the face fucking kek
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>>87856181
I don't have to, I was there. Scared the shit out of me.
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>>87856097
Eddie bravo pls go
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>>87856203
HEY YOU
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>>87856208
Was it the best experience in the cinema you had?
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Hello John
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>>87856084
>le CGI is so le bad for that scene!

you mean the concept and cartoonish execution of the scene is bad. the CGI is just fine for 2005. learn to articulate yourself
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>>87856243
I've had better since. Probably as I wasn't a six year old getting scared shitless by a t rex and screeching dilophosaurus
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>>87856084
When they are running between the legs of the dinosaurs look like a 60's car scene. So obvious.
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>>87856181
It was amazing. I watched on cinema at least three times. I was like 10 at the time.
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>>87856097
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>>87856269
Go away Peter, your film has aged poorly
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>>87856269
Nah, the CGI is worse in that scene than the rest of the movie. Kong never looks fake but that green screening does.
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>>87856181
Another oldfag here. I saw it in the theater when I was 10. It was fucking awesome. Looking back on the movie now I see that a lot of the non-dinosaur stuff is really cheesy, but yeah, that was a great experience back in the day. The T-Rex scene in the rain was straight-up real, you felt like you were there.
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>>87856291
Just imagine the dinos instead of the random horses that appear
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BladeRunner of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-qLglKXme8
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>>87856346
Secretly the scariest thing in the movie by the way
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>>87856125
No it looks really bad.
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>>87856394
No
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>>87855832
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>87856346
I saw that shit in theaters when I was six. Fucking scary.
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>>87856340
meanwhile, this came out in 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_IRXhodds

it's fine
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>>87856391
>secretly

not even close to being secretly - that bit traumatised me as a kid.

Poor Wayne nah-ah-ah nah-ah-ah
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>>87856394
Some of the scenes do. The galliminus look rubbish now. But the t-rex still looks solid, thanks to the careful use of the CG model mixed with the robot.
The raptor scenes also still look fine for the time.
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>>87855690
>How?
Mos of what you think is CG in that movie is actually practical effects
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>>87856391
*cutesy noises*

*head bobbing*

REEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

*spits*
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CGI barely ever looks good
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>>87856491
It often looks excellent.
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>>87856491
I guarantee you weren't even aware of how much CGI you were looking at when you watched the film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pocfRVAH9yU
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>>87856491
No, obvious creatures who you know are CG often still look CG because simulating a creature is hard no matter how detailed it is.
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>>87856391
Having the whole island drenched in rain, as it was in the book, was good for the immersiveness. Slippery mud everywhere, wind... helped make you feel like you were there. Also it was cool to feel like crazy shit might be happening all over the island now that the security systems were down.
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>>87856084
no need to add raptors, it doesn't add to the sense of danger, it just makes the whole scene ridiculous and even more unbelievable. with the horrendous use of CGI, this scene summarizes jackson pretty well, it just lacks some stupid dialogue
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>>87856632
Thanks dad
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>>87856084
KINO scene.
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>*low horn notes*
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>>87856181
i watched it 7 times in the cinema when i was 8. I could never get enough. I wonder how it was for older people though. it must have been quite crazy too
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>>87856491
Fincher would disagree.
Every Fincher film has more CGI than a standard Hollywood blockbuster. Literally every interior scene is shot on a sound stage. Every time you see blood in a Fincher film you can be sure it's CGI. The Social Network has more VFX shots than the 2014 Godzilla. And no one ever notices a thing.

Pretty sure all of his films will age good.
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There are many movies that come out nowadays which have better looking CGI than Jurassic Park
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>>87856250
Hello John
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>tfw can never go back
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>>87856767
Zodiac is absolutely packed with CG and no one ever noticed
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>>87856671
Any time, son
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>>87856250
>>87856785
Hello John
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>>87856701
I loved how you never actually saw the raptors on-screen until the last 20 minutes of the movie. In fact the first time you actually see one is when one suddenly bursts out of the pipes behind Satler.
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BINGO

DYYYYYNO DNA!

EVEN DAH-NO-SAWS!
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>>87855690
CGI hasn't gotten much better since this tbfh pham
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>>87856135
what the fuck is this junkyard explosion
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>>87856250
Hello John
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>>87856250
Hello John
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Don't mind me, just posting the best CGI to date.
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>>87856963
Truly epic post my friend
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>>87856879
Actually the first thing to scare me in the movie as a lad was literally the opening scene where the raptor rips up the worker. Obviously it's shot very intensely and quickly with SHOOOT HAAH but the bit that scared me was when the worker is suddenly lifted like six feet off the ground by SOMETHING that's in the cage. The sudden display of strength spooked me for some reason, probably because it wasn't that big a cage so it's not like it's a t-rex in there.

That was only the beginning of course, I had a lot more scares to come.
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>>87856574
this

most CGI is invisible to the plebeian eye
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>>87856250
Hello John
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>>87856135
I expect those cars flying around are practical.
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>>87856250
fuck off John
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>>87856795
I did, but i do work with compositing and 3d, so i am a professional.
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>>87857027
*Blocks your path
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>>87856945
Sure bro
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>>87857027
This was shockingly good for 2006 and actually still looks great. Given it predates proper facial motion capture it's crazy how well it simulates Bill Nighy's acting. I know they did the capture dots but those were just markers then, not the tracking rigs they have now.

I wonder if it's because he's all wet and fleshy that makes the textures hold up better.
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>>87856084
WETA is a fucking hack company, all they do is add motion blur and hurr look everyone it's in motion so you're just watching over pixelated crap like in real life.
fuck you fucking pig fucker hackson
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>>87856574
Most of it is compositing, not CGI.
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>>87857144
But you know it's still cgi so how is it an improvement?
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>>87857134
The Apes films are straight up extraordinary.
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>>87857248
No.
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Jurassic Park was legit perfection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAhqbOvWCZ4
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>>87857310
This is the stupidest logic in the history of the universe.
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>>87855690
>CGI of something you never saw in real life looks good
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>>87857343
It doesn't look that great in the chase scene.
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>>87857277
You want to play the semantic game?
Fine...
Compositing IS CGI you dumb-ass.
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>>87857144
The JP raptors looked better in movement desu.
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>>87857558
No, they didn't, and I guarantee whatever shot you're thinking of was practical.
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>>87857558
No, they absolutely did not
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>>87856708
wow
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>>87856250
>>87857025
>>87857025
>>87856984
>>87856861
>>87856785
>>87856250
Hello John
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>>87856181
You have no idea.
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>>87857891
Hello John
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>>87857982
hell, there will never be another movie like Jurassic Park, I feel like I will never experience something like this in the cinema
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>>87857553
99% of the time when people talk about CGI they're referring to digital models
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>>87856798
*grabs your crotch suggestively*
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>>87855690
What a coincidence i watched it again just this evening. Such a great movie

Nedry screaming in the car traumatized me as a kid
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>>87856040
>THEY ARE CHASING US!
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>>87856250
Chilly 'n' sea bass
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>>87857553
Holy shit you're an idiot
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>>87856346
>>87856314
>being 30+ on 4chan
You fags wizards too?
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>>87856097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk
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>>87858787
Most of the boards average a demographic around 30. 4chin became the new Facebook years ago
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>>87858620
I read the book as kid, shit was so much more violent in the book that i was pretty disappointed that the whole movie was so bloodless and tame.
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it was mostly CGI enhanced animatronics

the actual fully CGI'd dinosaurs from jurassic park look awful
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>>87855690
They knew the limitations and so they only used CGI during night scenes, chose a greyish coloring for the dinosaurs and used animatronics for all the close shots, saving the CGI budget rare wide shots.
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>>87859724
>nly used CGI during night scenes
entirely untrue
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Have Weta Digital finally surpassed Industrial Light & Magic as the reigning champions of CGI?
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>>87855690

>Science from 1993 is more accurate than science from 2017
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>>87859909
...since when is a fucking monkey that big?
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>>87860100
F O R Y O U
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>>87856181

I was taken to the cinema at three years old to see it. Still seemed more plausible that they created real dinosaurs for the film than it was special effects.
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>>87859989
Actually they think that alot of baby dinosaur had feathers and as they grew older they started losing them till they have one as an adult. At least do your research before you start talking about science.
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>>87860322
>Three
Like you remember
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Mostly because it understood what so many modern films (Hint: IT) fail to understand about CGI which is that no matter how good you get it, no one is going to believe it's completely real. The more you use, the more dissonance you create with the audience. That's why everyone is so jaded to movies now, because it all looks like a video game. There's a big reason TV is in a golden age and movies are taking a dip, because it's tiring to watch actors interact with things that aren't even there.

Jurassic Park is bar none my all time favorite film because of how believable it all is. There's a perfect balance of practical effects, animatronics, and special effects with CGI used to fill in the small gaps in between. It's all shot in Hawaii, and it's not over crowded with gratuitous shots of the dinosaurs up until the climax of the movie. It lends itself to better story telling all around because it leaves you wanting more, so when you finally do get a chase scene between kids and raptors or when the TRex appears in the car scene, it has that much more terror and impact.

Too bad the rest of the movies completely abandoned those ideals and shot itself in the face.
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>>87860100
It's a gigantopithecus
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>>87860412

I feel sorry for you if you don't have memories from three years old
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>>87860428
This post. This guy fucking gets it.
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>>87856097
This but unironically.
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>>87857371
source
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>>87855783
>the scene looks good only because they made it look good

OK
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>>87860813
Mia and the MILF
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>>87860100
it's a normal monkey, the brown kid is just really goddang small. It's part of the Honey I Shrunk The Kids/Super-Size Me cinematic universe
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>>87856391
even more-so in the book
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>>87861117

It's not your fault
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>>87855759
>practical effects
Press F
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>>87856481
>Dilophosaurus was the original frog poster
Makes sense
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>>87859451
Also, Muldoon not blowing a raptor's torso apart with a rocket launcher was a bummer.
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>>87855690
I don't know if it was just me, but I love the sound of this movie. Everything sounds so crisp, especially the first scene.
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>>87862266
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>>87856135
Wow, why the fuck are the cars shooting fireworks?
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>>87856394
t. gay child who's never seen the movie
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>>87862063
The worst thing that they changed was the fate of Hammond. I really dislike this fucker and i wanted to see him dead.
>>87861066
Still as grisly as i remember it.
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>>87861066
Remember the part from the book where the asian guy who has like one line in the movie dies while holding his own intestines because he gets sliced open by a raptor
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>>87855759
lol that's not the robot in OP's picture
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>>87861066
Jesus, I forgot how terrible a writer Crichton was
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>>87862452
Same, they turned him into some benevolent, if insensitive, old man, rather than the manipulative corporate bastard he was in the book.
>>87862509
Yeah, he falls off the roof.
>>87862607
Same, it wasn't that bad of a book, but the writing reads like something out of a harry potter fanfiction, just with more scientific jargon and intestine spilling.
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>>87861532
F
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>>87856135

>fires afterburners at last second to slow down

This movie had some pretty nice transformations. Shame movie was more about the humans..
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>>87856162
That's a year younger than King Kong ya retard.
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>>87855690
I still can't watch this scene without adrenaline. It's just so well made.
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>>87862607
>Michael Crowley of The New Republic alleged that, in retaliation for his having written a negative review of Crichton's previous novel State of Fear, Crichton named a character with a small penis who rapes a baby after him. From page 227:

>"Alex Burnet was in the middle of the most difficult trial of her career, a rape case involving the sexual assault of a two-year-old boy in Malibu. The defendant, thirty-year-old Mick Crowley, was a Washington-based political columnist who was visiting his sister-in-law when he experienced an overwhelming urge to have anal sex with her young son, still in diapers."

Crichton was THE BEST writer actually and ceased to give a single fuck after all that Jurassic Park money started rolling in
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>>87855690

https://youtu.be/1koa2xAxCAw?t=110
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>>87855759
They only used the robot for the close ups
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>>87856048
It's from 1993 you pleb.
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>>87856135
Could a jet turn like that?
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>>87857134
the animation for the apes looks amazing but the models don't look so hot
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>>87860100
he can stretch his arms out just for you
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>>87863029
2
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>>87856250
Hello John
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>>87863525
Yes they do
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>>87856250
>>87856785
>>87856861
>>87857891
>>87858060
>>87863717
Hello John
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>>87863405
No and F-22s aren't dedicated low altitude interceptors either.
Are you really complaining about Michael Bay Transformers not being realistic
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>>87863405
A couple of them like the Su-47 and I think the MiG-30 can, yeah. But not the F-22 as far as I know.
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Can we all appreciate the fact that whatever you thought of rouge one they're phasing models back in
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>>87864147
Honestly it's hard to tell it's a real model because of the digital filtering they apply in editing, which is a problem with most movies nowadays. So it still ends up looking too even and smooth like CGI.
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>>87864147
>>87864258
Do either of you guys have any evidence that these are indeed models and not CGI?
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>>87862607
Not him but explain
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>>87857091
>expect
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>>87860356
>Actually
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>>87865144
Just read that extract. His prose is extremely dull and awkward, and basically involves just saying what's happening in a boring and stilted manner. I mean

>But he couldn't see. He couldn't see anything, and his terror was extreme.
come on now.

He's good at coming up with an overall story I guess, which I suppose makes him a good screenwriter and maybe that was his intention all along. But his actual writing sucks.
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>>87863170
Based
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>>87857371
kek
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>>87856481
this is exactly how I have sex
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>>87867574
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>>87856922
I LOVE YOU MR. DNA YOU COULD HAVE TAUGHT SO MUCH TO CHILDREN!
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>>87856922
SOMETIMES A MOSQEETO WOULD LAAHND ON THE BRAAAANCH OF A TREE, AND GET STUCK IN THA SAP
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>>87857248
>WETA is a fucking hack company
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>>87857553
Compositing is compositing ala matte painting.
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>>87864954
>digitla filtering

Probably not.
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>>87862266
I try to avoid hyperbole when I can, but I remember being in the theater when the T-Rex roared for the first time. I was awestruck. I was completely dumbfounded and absorbed into the moment. It was real and nobody could have convinced my little 9 year old brain differently.
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>>87862986
Good transformations? How the fuck could you tell? It all looks like a heap of metal debris and then suddenly robot.
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cgi is the worst cartoony looking ass shit. 90's were truly the peak of civilization.
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>>87867992
sit down kid
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>>87856097
i like you
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>>87866087
Its a bit clumsy, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say itsucks. But then again I read 2 pages of GURM the other day so maybe I'm just numb to bad prose
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>>87868020
u voted for trump
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>>87870268
I'm not American you dope.
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>>87870281
you voted for brexit
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>>87870312
Try again.
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>>87870327
you voted against trudeau
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>>87870360
Nope.
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>>87870376
you squat in front of your volkswagon golf and listen to grime rap music
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>>87856250
Jello Hohn.
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>>87870421
I don't know what any of those things are.
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>>87870436
k then u live in africa
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>>87867992

How the fuck else is it supposed to look?
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>>87862986
>fires afterburners at last second to slow down
I love these small details in movies and shows.
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>>87870458
I think it's time to hang up your hat anon.
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>>87856346
You're exactly my age. Saw this shit in theaters at 10 yo. Until this day, the greatest theater experience I have ever had and will never be topped. Of course I was 10 and naturally a pleb still. Spielberg is the master of making adventure films for 10 yo kids to remember forever (ET... Indy...JP).
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>>87856879
Hollywood used to know how to do shit right. What went wrong, Anon?
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>>87856324
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>>87870473
like jurassic park or alien, or good movies
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>>87857449
Yes it fucking does. The part where it hits the tree was used at the end of almost every trailer. That was the hype scene 2bh
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>>87870793
Actually look at the Rex. It looks good for the time but very much looks CG
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>>87863405
more importantly can its fuel melt steel beams
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>>87855690

It kind of amazes me how millenials on /tv/ love this movie so much. I liked dinosaurs as a kid and I did see it in the theater with mom as a kid of 10 or so. I was entertained and all, but it didn't /leave an indelible impression on me/. Add to this (I guess) that dad always disliked the movie based on one viewing (he hadn't joined mom and I at the theater, but must have seen it later on TV at some point), and periodically said so over the next decade+ as I was growing up.

I think that a large part of what is going on here is a nostalgia specific to people born between 1985-1995 or so. Also, CGI in general is not defensible.
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>>87870880
Or you're a dipshit who thinks too highly of his own opinion and experiences.
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>>87870758

So you want the transforming robots to look like Dinosaurs or Aliens or something else completely?

Do you read what you type first?
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>>87866087
>come on now.

Is that supposed to sound bad or something? You pretentious nit.
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>>87856250
You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, you didn’t stop to think if you should.
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>>87856250
John that hurt...
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>>87861532
F
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>>87871025
you are dumb as fuck and have no idea what this thread is talking about obviously
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>>87855690
It's mostly animatronic, that's how. Practical effects win again.
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Sort of cheating because it's obviously not all CGI, but the "walking through the bars" sequence from T2 is still unbelievably good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIQ9f6citV8
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>>87856181
It's the most memorable movie experience I had in my life. Went twice with my family. People who missed do not know what going to the cinema really feels like because nothing has come close to Jurassic Park save maybe Titanic and that movie has magic as well.
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>>87856208
Scared me as well. My fucking dad and godfather laughed though. They thought it was hilarious when the trex started chewing the Tyre.
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>>87858932
That's because most people who are in their 30s was here back in 2004.
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>>87858842
context
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>>87856181
why do you think t-rex became the most famous dinosaur in history?
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>>87867662
BINGO! DINO DNA
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>>87867912
Was still great when they released in 3d in IMAX a few years ago.
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>>87870880
>muh millennials

It's okay to say you don't like the film, rather than come up with a convoluted generation blame to compensate for it
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The CGI only works because seeing an actual puppet might allow you suspend your disbelief when you see a CGI shot.
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>>87856181
Imagine the experience of being an underage.
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