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JUST
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>>87825094
Does "century" mean the last 100 years or just since 2000?
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>>87825142
It means the next 100 years
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Her horrible career is finally over.
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>>87825192
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>>87825094
Century is a bit much. We still got 83 years to go. Year or decade, most plausible though.
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The movie was ballsy enough to call out women for being retarded, no wonder SJW hollywood hates it
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who do conservatives think their opinion on film is warranted? conservatism is literally the antithesis to high are and culture
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>>87825387
>conservatives made the best genre of music, classical
>conservatives made the best type of art
huh
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MOTHERRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>87825094
why is it hated
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MUTHAAAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gw5pyjBYmQ
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>>87825387
>realism is conservative
>romanticism is conservative
>by far the best art

>modern art is liberal
>rococo is liberal
>shit
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>>87825601
>conservatives made the best genre of music, classical
Whats it like to unknowingly be so ignorant?
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not the worst movie I've seen this year, guess I could be a film critic
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>>87825094

>Sucking Aronofsky's scrawny dick in the hopes that this will be her academy award moment

KEK
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>>87825360
>/tv/ and sane critics hates it for being too pretentious
>While the others hates it cause muh soggy knee

wew lad Darren isn't caching a break isn't he?
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>>87825954
>See JLaw in a Aronofsky's flick
>Wow she finally got a decent agen-

LMFAO
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Now I gotta see it
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>>87825720
Anti religion, shows women as weak and JLaw's acting sucks. It's also sort of artsy fartsy which clashes with the horror and JLaw demographic
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B O X O F F I C E P O I S O N
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>>87825720
2deep4plebs
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Can someone give me an in depth spoiler filled rundown on the movie? My local theater is not showing it & its a 50 mile drive each way to the next theater.
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>>87825094

>"Mother!" Is the Worst Movie of the Year, Maybe Century

Good thing Myra Breckinridge came out last century, eh, Rex?
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>>87826813
From yesterday's thread

>When it comes time for Mother to finally have their baby, she and the poet retreat to his upstairs office, which is basically the Garden of Eden/Heaven. She gives birth but refuses to let the poet take the baby to the throng of onlookers downstairs. Unfortunately, as sleep deprivation gets the best of her, the poet snatches the baby from her arms and gives it to the people. The baby, in this instance, is Jesus Christ. Those familiar with the New Testament knew what was coming next—the poet gives his baby to the people, who then kill it. Mother is horrified, even moreso when the people start eating the baby while crying (i.e. consuming the body of Christ as in communion, during which we remember Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins).

>Mother gets trampled and beaten badly, almost to the point of death, before she makes her escape. The parallel here is humanity killing the planet (i.e. Mother Nature). But as we’re experiencing right now with climate change, Mother Nature fights back. Lawrence’s character screams in terror, shaking the house (i.e. Earth), before running to the basement where she lets her wrath loose in full fury. Fittingly, she chooses an oil drum as her weapon (i.e. the fossil fuel industry) and sets the entire place on fire, killing all of humanity.
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>>87825601
Name one example
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>>87826966
>The poet, being God/creator and thus immortal, survives and carries the badly burned Mother upstairs. She protests, asking him to stop, but he carries on opening her chest and pulling out another crystal like the one Pfeiffer and Harris’ characters broke at the beginning of the movie. It’s here that the gloomy ending comes into full view, as we realize Lawrence’s Mother was simply one of many Earths that God has created. Lawrence’s Mother tells him to stop, warning that humanity will always do this—turn on its creator, itself, and of course the Earth. But he strives to create, and thus he takes the crystal to the upstairs room, places it on the mantle, and the house restores itself and a brand new Mother wakes up in the bed, fresh-eyed and unaware that she’s just the next iteration of the cycle.
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>>87826966
Huh neat, Seems like a good watch. Fuck might have to bite the 100 mile roundtrip bullet
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>>87825802
>Whats it like to unknowingly be so ignorant?

He wouldn't know, would he, anon?
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>>87826966
Really activated my almonds : the movie
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>>87825094
DUDE LET'S JUST RETELL THE BIBLE WITH NO SUBTLETY OR ORIGINALITY LOL

One of the most bland "edgy" films I've seen.
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>>87825094
I've never seen a movie that looked so bad have so much fucking marketing, probably because I watch TV online but still.
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red reed is a horrible critic
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>>87827452
>DUDE LET'S JUST RETELL X WITH NO SUBTLETY OR ORIGINALITY LOL

Isn't this pretty much what all movies do today? How is this any different?

You can't out "apathy" this site.
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>>87826998
>>87826966
I like how this person writes, if the movie is actually like this and it isn't just the person making left-field speculations then I might watch it.
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>>87826048
>You can't just sleep your way through Hollywo-
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>>87825387
Is "Mother!" a high form of art? Is your taste in movies that bad?
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>>87825217
Thank fucking god.

In 20 years I hope she goes down as a flash in the pan that had no fucking right winning an oscar.
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Rex Reed is based
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>>87825217
This is just a bump in the road. She's already being hailed as the modern Meryl Streep. And that hag is about to kick the bucket. Once she finally does, the Oscars will continue to nominate Jlaw for every role in her life. They will give her a 2nd Oscar in the 2020s and maybe a 3rd one when she's 70.
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>>87825094
So the normies are finally waking up to the fact that Jenifer Lawrence is Hack.
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>market Mother! as a horror movie
>release it the week after the fucking It remake which is going to make over 200 million at the box office

JUST
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>>87825094
The man who said that is 78 years old. Gives some perspective and (I feel) more value than some 22 year old idiot right out of school.
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>go to theater expecting shit
>get a kafkesque lovecraftian kino of epic proportions

times /tv/ was wrong?
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>>87828509

Rex Reed is not a normie
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>>87828797
Every time
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>>87826998
reminds me of those stories with the cosmic horror elements
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>>87825094
welcome to the club
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>>87828797
never

okay maybe a few times, enough to be your own person mebbe
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I work in a theater and today someone was so pissed at this movie that they punched a hole in the wall of the theater. Later, I listened as literally every single person leaving the theater said it was one of the worst films they'd ever seen. My managers spent a huge part of the day just giving out refunds. Seriously.

I don't know if this is because of the borderline-unethical misleading marketing or because it is just that bad, but i have never seen this kind of heated reaction. It's nuts.
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>>87825094
poor discount jdm
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>>87828417
>Talking poorly on Zimmer
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>>87829534
>The Wicker Man
>1 star

NOT THE PLEBS! NOT THE PLEBS AURRRRRRRRGH
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>>87829760
idk who the fuck Leo is, I just screenshotted it because he had a full list, ignore his retarded ratings
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>>87829666
>borderline-unethical misleading marketing
what do you mean? i haven't seen the film and don't care about spoilers just curious
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>>87826966
This sounds stupid as fuck. Like high school English first year of semiotics stupid as fuck.
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>>87829698
What did he mean by this?
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>>87829909

It's being marketed as some kind of home-invasion thriller. It's not even remotely close to it. People are going in expecting a horror movie and getting an arthouse biblical allegory film that tears apart Christianity.
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>>87829666
Really sounds like an overreaction but first I must know how much did they pay for tickets?
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>>87825094
You know you fucked up when jews are defending christianity.
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>>87829989

It's saturday so $10.
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>Kristen Wiig out of nowhere

This movie was so flat out bad.
The first half didn't even matter at all.
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>>87825094
>Rex Reed
and why should I listen to a wannabe armond white?
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>>87825746
Pleb
https://youtu.be/gNdnVVHfseA
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>>87826348
Go back to sleep, Grace.
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>>87825802
>Whats it like to unknowingly be so ignorant?
>unknowingly
>ignorant
What's it like to unknowingly be so redundant?
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>>87825094
>was certified fresh at 71%

what did the SJW's find that didn't fit their narrative?
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I'm really surprised /tv/ doesnt shill this like they do BvS
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>>87830145
Look it up it's 68 now
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>>87829666

This anon gets it. It's 100% the marketing. It's some of the most misleading shit i've ever seen.
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>>87827778
>Isn't this pretty much what all movies do today?
Basically, which is funny since most of the shit in the Bible was already a re-telling of other stories.
Fucking Hollywood hasn't had an original idea in over two thousand years.
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>>87830150

Give it time.
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>>87830172
learn how to read
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>>87830209
I don't have time annon, I start my new job monday
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Ya'll wouldn't understand. It's a dark Wilesesque drama
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>>87829984
>that tears apart Christianity.
I haven't it yet, but how does it tear apart Christianity?

People said the same thing about "Last Temptation of Christ" but it ended up being a good movie that really wasn't all that controversial in the long run.
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seriously, what the fuck is wrong with her neck?
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>>87830302
God's the poet, he keeps creating shit for people that end up destroying it and harming Mother(nature) because of his ego
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>>87826966
I guess, I could really like this movie if it' isn't too over the top.
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>>87830180
>Basically, which is funny since most of the shit in the Bible was already a re-telling of other stories.
The "Loose Change" meme shit again?
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>>87827823
>if the movie is actually like this

It is. The symbolism is not subtle.

I liked it.
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>>87825094
What is this about?
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>>87829984
>film that tears apart Christianity.
Finally it's been 2000 years
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>>87825094
>read review
>it spoils the whole movie
Why do critics do this?
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>>87830344
But how does that shit on Christianity?
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All shoehorned plot and messages aside, the movie truly hit some disturbing points and was nightmarish. Watching the baby get killed really fucked with me personally. Hated the close ups, loved the jlaw titties. Great use of sound design
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>>87825778
No art is conservative at the time of its invention, it only becomes conservative when it's superceded by the next step in artistic progress.

>>87830097
>t. brainlet thinking this is a gotcha
Do you just read the dictionary and apply no further critical thought to the language you use?

>it's impossible to recognize youre own ignorance

Lmao kys
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>>87830344
>The creation is more valuable than the Creator
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>>87826048
This is too good
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>>87830392
Maybe saying that god has a big ego, is selfish and unkind to nature?
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>>87829909
>>87829984
So why make people who go see it will hate it and people who might like it don't notice it?
IAre negative critics part of the marketing plan?
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>>87826966
>DUDE RELIGION LMAO
>Always Catholicism or Christianity
When will they stop beating a dead horse?
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>>87830448
>unkind to nature
But nature is cruel as fuck, who would ever be kind to it?
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>>87825094

Maybe they should have cast a real woman?
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>>87829666
>punched a hole in the wall of the theater
That is fucking hilarious
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For all the retards asking for spoilers do you realize the plot of 99.99% of movies are posted on their wikipedia page the day of release? Are people seriously that stupid not to check when the movie is already released?
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>>87830550
He's kind of her daddy.
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Its not about Christianity. It seems like it is, but it just isn't. The Poet wants to make a recreation of the bible, but that is a plot that runs parallel to the main character's. And that's the thing, its all about a character trying to defy the narrative. She wants to be important. She wants to be part of the story. But she just isn't no matter how hard she tries. The only time she actually causes something to happen is when he is paying attention to her. All the other people do not matter at all. She can't kick them out of the house, she can't get the Poet to do anything about it. She is only a filler character trying to be the protagonist, which is the real meaning here.
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I liked it a lot. It just seema that movie offends almost everyone.
>>87825217
Shewasfucking hot in this with her being braless with see through plain shirts for half a movie.
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>>87830351
>The "Loose Change" meme shit again?
I don't get it....wasn't that some documentary on 9/11?
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>>87830428
>>t. brainlet thinking this is a gotcha
>Do you just read the dictionary and apply no further critical thought to the language you use?
>>it's impossible to recognize youre own ignorance
>Lmao kys
I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not.
If you are, you're doing a shit job.
If not, you're really fucking stupid.
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>>87830644
Or I'm analyzing utter bullshit.
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>>87829666
lmao
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>>87830660
>I don't get it....wasn't that some documentary on 9/11?
It also did the "herr derr Jesus is just like Horus" shit, which has been debunked even by fucking atheists.
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>>87826966
>Mother Nature fights back with climate change

Literally a religion for liberals.
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>>87830347
>I guess, I could really like this movie if it' isn't too over the top.
>too over the top
i got bad news for ya son.
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>>87828417
>Everything is too loud and my feet hurt. 30/100
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>>87830727
That was Zeitgeist, but yes, it's been completely debunked.
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>>87830727
>the sun of god
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>>87830677
>replied
>gave no argument
Sounds like a win for me in either case
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>>87825094
So it's worse than emoji?
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>>87830644
I like this. Seeing the author from one of his characters perspective
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>>87829666
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>>87829984
>>87830302
>>87830392
God isnt even the bad guy.

He is loving everything unconditionally, the people destroy each other just as they destroy Mother and he forgives them.

He even looks fucking horrified when he realizes what they are doing with the baby.

The real thing it shits on is humanity, if anything it is saying that God is making a mistake in forgiving them because they will never change and they will always hurt his first creation.
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Is he a fraking Cylon? BSG photos are like this.
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>>87830431
Yes?
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>>87830657
>Shewasfucking hot in this
relevant or argument how? you fucking infant. She's not even hot as the nudes showed sh;es average and has shit orc legs, fuck outta here.
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>>87829534
The Bug and Wolf Creek are decent.
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>>87826966
I can't tell if I like it for how pretentious it is or if I find it stupid for how pretentious it is. Aronofsky is a weeaboo right? Is he a snob? If he is this plot is him being pretentious in a non ironic way
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>>87826990
Bach.
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Uh? Since when do SJWs care about Christianity? I thought it was the cool thing they hated...
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>>87830797
European remake when?
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>>87829940
what the fuck kind of pansy are you acting like you learned semiotics in high school you sound like a proper twat m8 or some upper class twit
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>>87831019

He's always been pretensious in a non-ironic way. It was endearing in Pi but he should have grown by now.
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this film really triggered the plebs didn't it?
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>>87825094
LADS IT IT JUST BLOODY ME OR IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH LASSES EYES??
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>>87831090
so I'll go with I think this plot is stupid
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>>87825601
Very true.
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>>87830378
because they don't expect you to watch the film, they expect you to just agree with their opinion on the film
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>>87830594
good thing about 4chan is the lack of filters and no one caring about using curse words to describe shit
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How much did he rip off Satoshi Kon in this one?
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>>87831103
similar to how IT triggered the contrarians
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>>87830727
I never saw Loose Change, but Zeitgeist and Bill Maher's documentary did that. Yes, it was bullshit, but that doesn't mean everything in the Bible was original.
It wasn't.
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>>87825217
Doubt it. X-Men movies are still going strong and she's in some new slutty assassin movie coming up as well.
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>>87831177
I don't know, but I thought this was funny
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At least The Fountain was good.
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>>87830866
I don't "argue" with people who don't even know the difference between your and you're, but you tell yourself whatever you need to in order to feel good, bud.
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>>87830428
>No art is conservative at the time of its invention, it only becomes conservative when it's superceded by the next step in artistic progress.

Literal racist sexist theocratic ideologues made the most beautiful art in history. Trying claim that your ideology has the exclusive monopoly on art is retarded.
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>>87825094
So they're going to retroactively say it's great a few years down the line to save face after it becomes a cult classic.
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>>87825601
>>conservatives made the best genre of music, classical
>conservatives made classical
Not, how conservative as a poltical alignment works. And even if you mean it in the more bare contexts: wants to recapture past/conserve tradition or wants a smaller government presence, you're actually more wrong.
>classical is best genre of music
Classical or the period or are you using "classical" to reference basically all music not based on folk or African percussion structure? If the later, stop considering that a genre, if the former, stop considering that a genre, because neither are.
>conservatives made the best type of art
What, classical music? Not even just music, a specific kind of music is the best type of art. You must despise Bach so much. Use baroque technique in my classical era? You're done faggot, you and your modes!
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Apparently a baby get its neck snapped.

I try to think of myself as open, I've never walked out of a film but I think such a scene would do it for me.
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>>87831302
Don't be a brainlet.
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>>87831343
That was pretty great. When you hear that loud *crack*, you just know ehat happened.
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>>87825094

>it offended his male feminist sensibilities so it must be a terrible movie

literally lmaoing @ his life
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>>87830150
Because BvS was actually good
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>>87831343
That's because you're a bitch-made redditor and you need to go back.
If you can't fap to that scene you're on the wrong website desu
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>>87826048

WTF? Hes literally 20 years older than her, fucking gross
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>>87831343
>Tell that to baby's snapped neck!
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>>87831343
It's a fucking allegory. All the characters are just tools.
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>>87831454
kek

>>87831431
edgy phase of 4chan ended in about 2013 fyi
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>>87831343
>I try to think of myself as open
Anybody who says this is not "open" whatsoever.
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>>87829534

Killing them softly and silent house are both great though. silent house only because of elisabeth olsen's breasts
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>>87831518
fascinating, tell me more about me
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>>87830428
>Art is inherently secular and egalitarian (liberal)
No
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>>87831542
You're also a fairly substantial faggot.
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It can't possibly be worse than that Noah's Ark film he made.

Remember? The one about the giant rock monsters who built the ark, and the epic battle where the humans try to attack the ark during the flood, and the main conflict of the story is one of Noah's sons is unwilling to die a virgin, and because Noah is a complete dumbass who misinterprets God's will he tries to kill Emma Watson's baby?

Mother is worse than that piece of shit?
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>>87831302
Imagine being so triggered that people who disagree with you politically make good art that you write this entire ling winded paragraph which essentially says
>Conservatism is inherently against """""progress""""""" so it can't ever make good art
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>>87831613
Noah at least kind of tried to have some original thoughts, mother is a completely regurgitated allegory
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>>87831650
How is making Noah's ark (famous biblical story) less regurgitated than anything? It's one of the oldest stories of all time.
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>>87825094
>He (Aronofsky) ended up writing the Mother! screenplay in five days

that's always a good sign
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>>87831694
It took some creative liberties
Mother is literally regurgitating the entire Bible by the way, including the Noah's ark story
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>>87831280
And they did it by explicitly breaking with the dominant modes of tradition. There is no Josquin without breaking from Perotin, no Bach without breaking from Josquin, no Mozart without breaking from Bach, no Beethoven without breaking from Mozart, no Wagner without breaking from Beethoven, no Debussy/Schoenberg without breaking from Wagner.

Once the liturgical element was overshadowed as the primary mode of expression for musicians around the baroque period, it's been nothing but epochal breaks and reactions since.

You don't get to A->B here otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usUEuuUcaSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAgdd2VqLVc
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>>87831766
Well okay not literally, Aronofsky performs his traditional crap of course
But what I mean is that the plot takes less creative liberties than Noah, i.e. it has less balls storywise despite being more graphic
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>>87831504
>muh reddit buzzword
You have to go baxk, sweetie jfyi.
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>>87831788

But what does that have to do with chopping an 8 year old's dick off?
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>>87829534
Killing them softly is a good film
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>>87831858
i use both reddit and /tv/ on a daily basis. cocooning yourself in one site/opinion is not healthy.

something to think about
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>>87825217
>>87828345
I's funny because she's likely to be the one that actually comes out fine. Most of the people with reviews like >>87825094 say that the whole movie sucked but her.
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>>87825707
TELL YOUR CHILDREN NOT TO WALK MY WAY
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>>87826348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL0WayC7jW0&t=2m23s
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>>87831889
>i use both reddit and /tv/ on a daily basis
That explains why you're twice as much of a faggot as most others here.
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>>87825142
"The century", you moron, meaning from 2000-2100

jesus, wtf are they teaching kids in school, reading comprehension is a unique skill now.
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>>87831947
you're not happy I visit other sites? Are you ok
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>>87825094
Is it bad that it's gotten to the point where if critics hate something I automatically assume it's due to social justice reasons and my knee jerk reaction is to defend the film even if I haven't seen it?
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>>87825094
Apparently Noah was more subtle than this. How does that even happen?
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>>87825720
Not enough Danzig.
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>>87831252
I'm not sure if it was good.
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>>87830657
>Shewasfucking hot in this with her being braless with see through plain shirts for half a movie
ah yes, thats some top tier acting. good to know that people value real art
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>>87831788
As an addendum that Beethoven work was largely incomprehensible to his contemporaries and labelled as everything from apocalyptic to unlistenable (because they did not have the contextual framework of modern modalities towards music) and it took a century until it was recognized as the proto-modernist hyper-romantic monument that it is.

Time will bury you all.
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>>87826966
>>87826998
Jesus. I can't tell if this is funny or devastating.
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>film's title font is nearly the same as the energy drink

I thought it was actually a campaign for the drink.
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>>87829666
>someone was so pissed at this movie that they punched a hole in the wall of the theater

Fucking kek
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>>87829666
imagine upstream color being marketed as a romantic comedy
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>>87830928
yeah, but theres also the narcissism aspect
he favours humanity, his creation, and their adoration, over the life force they thrive on
he shuns mother earth in favour of their love and forgives them for everything they do to her
man just thinking about how hamfisted this whole film is makes my head shake
the fucking painting the walls
ridiculous
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>>87831201
touche, anon-kun
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>>87830644
he literally takes a rib from the first man (adam) and creates the first woman (eve)
their sons literally turn up arguing over their fathers decision and one kills the other (cain and able)
he literally has a son that is cherished, then killed, then eaten (jesus christ)
it is completely about christiantiy and the way humans abuse mother nature
aronofsky has stated as much
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Haven't seen it, so I can't comment on it. But from what I've gathered it's supposed to be an artsy, trippy, film where symbolism does most of the storytelling and thus the story isn't spelled out to the viewer. So maybe the problem is that when you cast Lawrence you're asking for mainstream audience, which just isn't interested in that sort of thing.
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>>87825192
underrated
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>>87832580
Imagine Bicentennial Man being marketed as a romantic comedy.
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>>87825192
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>>87831889
so you cocoon yourself in 2, both of which are the extremes
nice one mate
reddit coming to /tv/ made neo/tv/ what it is
there was some decent discussion still going before TFA trailer brought you murderers here
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>>87825094
>normies can't into aronofsky

no shit. noah was great and no one liked it. the fountain was amazing and no one saw it.
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>>87832685
and when you market it as a horror film
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>>87831215
>X-Men movies are still going strong

No. Logan, Deadpool and DOFP went strong. How did First Class and Apocalypse do? People cared about Hugh Jackman and now he's gone. Lawrence isn't a draw
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>>87828417
>oof owie ouch movie too loud my ears hurtttt ;'(
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>>87825094
Just like Peeping Tom, the Wickerman, Salo: or 120 Days of Sodom, The Shining, Haxan: Witchcraft Throughout the Ages, The Horrors of Malformed Men, Freaks, Vampyr, Godzilla, Night of the Hunter and other stupid horror trash that sucked then and now.
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How long till the movie is online? None of my theaters are showing it
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>>87832807
>Lawrence isn't a draw
That's Fassbender.
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>>87831343
Neo-/tv/ confirmed for softcore pussies.
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>>87825094
Don't know anything about it. What's got people all angry?
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>>87833015
People are plebs.
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>>87832985

It's both. Nobody gives a fuck about any of them. And GoT actors outside of GoT scares people away so Sophie and her Goblin friend are going to fuck it up even more
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>>87825094

Damn she really must have fucked his dick so good, probably gave him the cock telescope
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>>87825094

>Friday Box Office
>3 million

How can something with such a small budget flop so bad?
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>loved tree of live
>kind of liked Noah's ark
>most bloved horrormovies that scared the shit out of me are Antichrist and Stalker
Do you think I could like this movie?
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>>87827452
Isn't this the same board that eats up all the shallow and hamfisted religious imagery in Snyder imagery
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>>87825094
>some melodramatic femmypeeny betablogger "thinks" this movie is bad, probably because there's something going on inside it that flies in the face of his gay little socialist agenda and doesn't want people to see it

Guess I'm gonna go see mother! now :^)
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>>87833097
Stalker wasn't even scary at all
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>>87830428
>No art is conservative at the time of its invention,
whats it like to be retarded?
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Post edgy/shock value/tryhard/2deep4u movies that are actually good.

This is example is good I'm not saying its true kino
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>>87833077

There were 6 people in the whole room including me.
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>>87830927
MUTHUUHHHHHOORR
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ARONOFSKY ETERNALLY BTFO
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>>87833186

BANTZ
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>>87831970
>>87825192
But if they wanted to be dramatic, why not say "worst movie of the millennium"? That sounds way worse even though it means the same thing - worst movie this side of 2000.
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>>87829534
Bug is fucking awesome. Whoever doesn't like that movie is a pansy faggot.
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>>87833186
>jlaw
>redeem it
is this nigga serious. she made it worse if anything
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>>87833146
retard

what the ding dong diddly shit is comservstibe bou that
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>>87826966
Fucking hell, I guess when you're a kike hack, anything can get made
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JUST
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>>87826048
>just fuck the director lol
saved for next time she starts going on about "muh feminism" and shit
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>>87830928
This is sort of what I figured. I bet the different "cults" that develop are as close as it gets to calling out religion. Did they all take part in the sacrifice?
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>>87831343
i actually saw someone leaving the theatre after that scene
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>>87825387
Conservative artists make the best art, retard.
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>>87825142
>>87825192
>>87831970

I know have mental retardation
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>>87825094
so /tv/, which director is more pretentious:
Refn or Aronofsky?
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>>87825142
oh shit
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>>87825094
https://vid.me/QPkRM

But it's fucking kino.
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>not realizing Mother! is a divine comedy and not a horror film

I pity you all
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>>87825967
how could a hollywood movie not be pretentious?

every movie i've enjoyed past few years has had some cynical numale write a negative review about it. No zoe quinn tier pussy bribe, no positive review
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>>87834888

Anybody got the scene where Kristen Wigg assassinates those people with bags over their heads and then get btfo by the US military?
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>when being a rich and influential kike director isn't enough to hide you're a talentless hack

Cmon mod, chop chop being a good jew lackey.
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>>87835028
It was all I could get sorry, I really wanted to get the baby scene.
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>>87834888
>https://vid.me/QPkRM
STOP
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>>87825360
Except you are very much meant to sympathize completely with Mother and almost no one else.

It's actually the most feminist and pro-environmentalist film to come out in decades, so naturally SJWs complain about it because they can't look past the brutal group beating scene at more than face value.
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>>87826048
lol he casts his semen demons in all his films. these jews will do anything to save money.
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>>87825094
>some pretentious hack allegory about Christianity and climate change

Sounds like total garbage
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what did the medicine symbolize?
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>>87829666
So a bunch of idiots went to see an Arronofsky movie, with no knowledge of him expecting a Jlaw blockbuster jumpscare movie?

Or is he just a hack?
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>>87826966
Lib religion in 2k17.

What a disgusting joke the life of these ideologes are. It is like someone shat down their prefrontal cortex
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>>87835308

Both
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>>87830145
>though it may be too unwieldy for mainstream tastes
>average audience score:49%

welp
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>>87833077
>>87833151

Can confirm. Went to a old-style theater in a west suburb of Cleveland to see it. There were 20 people in there including me out of about 100 seats.

There was mostly confused laughter by the end of the movie, quickly followed by complaining.

Even I had trouble processing what I saw, but the car ride to my apartment made me come to the decision that I liked it and it was certainly a good ride.
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>>87828797
>Get pretty pictures and liberal shill ideology

Sems like you have the perfect brain for this garbage. Enjoy.
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How bad is lads? Is it straight trash or just too edgy for the average moviegoer?
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>>87835440
Too edgy for the average moviegoer.

The rotten tomatoes score is actually quite spot-on this time around, both the overall "bottom line" and the audience score.

It could show it to my friends and half would hate it and half would love it.
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>>87835440
This movie is pure kino. Probably too edgy for 90% of the plebeian class. The second coming of Only God Forgives.
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>>87835440
it's both
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>>87826268
I don't seem to remember any part of the film that was anti-biblical.
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>>87835440
it's good. absolutely lovecraftian.
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>>87831424
Fucking this. Its allegory is more subtle and far more pertinent. What's more, it manages to pull it off without resorting to nameless ciphers.
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>>87825094
Rex Reed was never a good film critic.
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>>87826048

God, I would totally put up with fucking J Law now to have fucked Rachel Weisz for almost a decade.
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>>87835440

>Too edgy for JLaw fans
>Not enough jump scares for horror fans
>Too on the nose for Aronofsky fans

It has barely any appeal apart from a small section of viewers who just want to see some fucked up arthouse flick in a mainstream cinema
It's great though
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What was that weird shit that was clogging the toilet?
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>>87835666
a heart?
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>>87835666
Parts of the Baby from the previous Mother that the Man had ingested in the previous iteration of Creation.
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It's his best movie since probably Wrestler. It's not even bad, it looks and sounds amazing, and all the actors were good, even JLaw. I could not give a single shit about the symbolism and interpritation of it. Movie succeeds at being unsettling and really makes you think about setting up a home party.

Normies gonna norm. Thanks Darren.
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>>87833099
It's not the imagery. It's the message:

Superman's not a god, just looks like one.

The imagery is pretty consistently beautiful, though.
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>>87835835
>really makes you think about setting up a home party

Best review I've seen so far
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>>87835661
>Too on the nose for Aronofsky fans

As if his movies aren't always on the nose. He's not a perfect filmmaker, I love his stuff because it's beautiful to look at and because somehow he still manages to make big budgeted mainstream movies that are edgy arthouse flicks at it's core. Guy has a vision and he manages to get money and A list actors to go with it, even if it's not that amazing.
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>>87829698
>fart into a megaphone
>call it a soundtrack
Remember when people thought he was getting out of his slump only to realize that Australian faggot from Mad Max had done all the work and Zimzam took half the credit?
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piece of shit movie. haven't seen it yet but piece of shit movie
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>>87835835
Wrong. Normies on redditboxd are eating it up. Normie plebs hated Noah and it was pure kino.
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>>87831234
>Implying
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>>87836013
Noah's pacing was shit, it was boring, Mother was not. Although I still liked Noah a lot.
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>>87829666
wait

I'm guessing this is the US? If you're not satisfied with the film you can get a refund?

What?
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>>87826048

>breaking up with weisz

Was he secretly gay all along?
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>>87825601
classical is not even a genre

it's like taking all the music made from the last 100 years and calling it "popular" while claiming it's a genre by itself

most noteworthy composers didn't even fit into the conservative consensus at the time, it's a really relative word given the context
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>>87836111
According to this movie fame destroys relationships. Some of it could be autobiographical. But Aronofsky is banging JLaw now, so apparently he did learn anything from reality or the movie.
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>>87828470
>look at me, I know how the world works, because I just keep ingorning more complicated stuff!
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>>87825601
Beethoven was notoriously against immigration and taxes
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>>87826966

Is Afronsky as dumb as protestant not to understand the eucharist?

Also, another movie mixing religion with climate change? Maybe he should just make the movie about the subject hes most familiar with.
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>>87825094
>Apparently anti-religious
>Plebs and critics apparently hate it

I bet /tv/ loves it.
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Is there anything more lazy than bible references?
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>>87836372
Bible references by Aronofsky
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>>87836372

I dont understand why they are part of the movie. Is it supposing Christian culture is the reason for climate change?
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>>87826048
The so called Right side of history
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>>87826813
reading the wikipedia entry of the plot summary is something else
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>>87826048

>fucked Weis
>Fucked Portman
>Fucked Lawrence
>Directed The Wrestler

This nigga /our guy/
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>>87836446
The idea comes from God (Bardem) doing whatever he wants with Mother Earth (JLaw). So God's creation (humanity) fucks up the Earth (Mother). So God is to blame for what he did. Yet at the end, the cycle restarts, nothing changes and you get no message.

In other words, the plot is about we being the ones fucking up Earth and God is to blame for that. I honestly think this movie is worth the time anyone might spend thinking about it
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>>87826966
>>87826998
Wow. Just wow. So powerful, so deep, so subtle, so thought-provoking. Obviously plebs just don't get it. I see no reason why this won't get all the Oscars next year.
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>>87830751
you could argue there's no point in fighting climate change since either way the world will get restarted again no matter what happens to it
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>>87836561

> God is to blame for creation

That sounds retarded. Hes just inserted a duality that has no place in Christianity.

How could God be to blame anything? He is the whole reason for being. To deny him is to deny creation itself.
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>>87836646
>That sounds retarded. Hes just inserted a duality that has no place in Christianity.
>How could God be to blame anything? He is the whole reason for being. To deny him is to deny creation itself.

Yeah, well, liberal's take on Christianity. I've met lots of Christians that say stuff like "I believe in God but in my own way. No, I've never read the Bible or anything, but still." This outrages me, and I'm a fucking atheist.

In any case, maybe I've been tainted by /pol/ or something, but I'd say the whole thing is about God being a male figure that doesn't care about the consequences of his actions (Creation) on the protagonist female figure (Mother Earth). This should please the SJW feminist audience and all that shit, but they seem to not like it. Maybe because at the end, Mother forgives God and everything restarts. Or maybe I'm misreading something
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>>87831431
>Actually using the word fap

Man are you honestly 13-15
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>>87836810

You know, people have written fiction which parrallels the bible over the centuries. The diffrence being that they had an understanding of it.

This sounds like the plot of a japanese anime where everything is lost in translation.
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>>87835985
Not to this degree, this movie beats you over the head with its metaphor relentlessly to the point where nothing else matters
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>>87829534
I have only seen In The Cut and it was absolutely terrible.
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>>87826966
>>87826998
>a jew makes another movie shitting on Christians and shilling for climate change

Shocking.
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>>87836926
I don't think Kon ever made a allegorical film about religion, so i don't know why Darren did.
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>>87831889
Jesus fuck off cunt
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>>87831343
You're a fag dude
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>>87840180
>God, Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, and the Garden of Eden aren't part of Judaism

Is this the value of an American education?
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>>87840968
Yes we don't teach the bible in school nor should we.
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>>87834790
maybe he went to go fap
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>>87841034
I assume the last one was destroyed in a book burning?
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>>87841052
The people that want the bible taught in school are the ones burning books.
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>>87841036
why leave?
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>>87830428
>No art is conservative at the time of its invention
Well no, that's definitely not true. Astronomically untrue if you count literature, but even just counting paintings that's untrue.
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>>87841096
I always assumed Comparative Religion was taught in all schools. Since the majority of the world believes in some god or another, it sorta makes sense to learn what they are all about. But I guess only people who can read care about that sort of thing (i.e. no one in America).
>>
Well now I want to see it.
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>>87841219
You should have wanted to see it when you saw who was directing, pleb.
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Without memeing, this is the biggest troll movie ever I've seen in cinema.

The clash of what people were expecting and what happens in 3rd act is the actual kino experience. You see in real time people going WTF at the movie.
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>>87831938
TELL YOUR CHILDREN NOT TO HEAR MY WORDS
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>>87830751
Except climate change is real. Whether it's man-made is irrelevant. Or are you telling me that 65 million years ago there wasn't more oxygen on Earth? Shit changes, son. Whether humanity is contributing to it is the question.
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>>87840968
Yes because we all know whenever people are attacking the concept of "God" they're going after Judaism.

Stop being so utterly cucked by the hooknosed desert tribe.
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>>87825387
Stop jewing my bandwidth up.
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>>87832046

i'd go see it just for this
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>>87827676
He is hilarious and this review is a must read, tho.
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>>87825778
>>realism is conservative
>created in opposition to romanticism
>>romanticism is conservative
Okay, kinda.
>>by far the best art
Nigger what? All romantic and realist art is just so fucking far ahead? They aren't even similar kinds of art.

>>modern art is liberal
Modern art is such a wide ass net, no it's not.
>>rococo is liberal
A bit small relative to the others, and man people hate baroque form on here more than expected. Also not sure the movement literally called "old fashioned" is the liberal movement you're looking for.
>>shit
Why? You hate Satie that much?

All in all these posts all have the same problem, they identify with shit twice removed from what they actually think because they mold the word "liberal" and "conservative" to mean anything, and even when it is appropriate they ignore that it's not appropriate for their liberal or conservative.
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>>87841850
>Ni**er
Back to /b/, please.
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>>87841295
It's only trolling absolute retards who can't grasp the concept of allegory. Pretty remarkable considering how heavy handed the film is.
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>>87836077
We don't put up with any shit like you faggots do.
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>>87825094

I would normally call you out on this and say you are full of crap even without having seen the movie first.
After Noah i just can´t do that anymore...
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>>87841966
You're not seeing the big picture here.
People went to the theaters to watch a jumpscare horror flick and found themselves with a movie that's literally too deep for normies, even if it's anything special. That's why they're confused and angry
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>>87841621
Reddit response. We all know when liberals talk about climate change they don't mean the natural ebb and flow of our planetary climate.
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>>87841175
Fuck off, religicuck.
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>>87841340
WHAT THEY MEAN, WHAT THEY SAY
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>>87842059
I knew I was going into an allegorical, surrealist, art house film and I was just as disappointed as those idiots expecting a generic horror film.
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>>87841175
I agree with the importance of teaching religions as part as cultural education but you shouldn't look down on others when making mistakes like
>in America
.
>>
It was marketed wrong and had brutal violence.

the general public hates both.

This wasnt as bad as moonlight or shit bad like glitter

Itll get pirated like crazy tho
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