>"There's an infinite number of realities, Morty,

Very Lovecraftian dialogue.

>>87821446
The writers take MANY liberities with the use of infinity in this show. I mean so many. But for one, in an infinite number of timelines, one galactic empire would get ricks portal gun.

>>87821446
Infinite doesnt always end in infinite if you have infinite people fucking with infinite worlds

>>87821470
I think this whole thing with the Cronenbergs was heavily and I mean HEAVILY inspired by Howie Phil Loveykins.

>>87821446
An infinite number of realities doesn't imply an infinite number of the same outcomes dickface.

>>87821446
A portion of infinity is still infinity.

>>87821664
That's not guaranteed friendo.

>>87821882
half of infinity is infinity. A billionth of infinity is infinity.

>>87822023
A few dozen of infinity is a few dozen

>>87821911
Anything is infinitely close to being 100% certain to happen an infinite number of times given infinite chances to do so

>>87821446
>We can only do this another 3 or 4 times max.

if you want a serious answer, even with an infinite number of universes, a finite of number exact sequences under extremely specific circumstances is still possible. Even mathematicians have multiple definitions of "Infinite".

But the truth is they were poking fun at the audience about being able hit the reset button at the end of every episode.

>>87822169
A few dozen of infinity is a few dozen, but thats irrelevant to the fact that if there is an infinite number of realities, there is an infinite number of the same outcome

>>87822169
If it's infinite, then the problem is that no matter how small the chance is, so long as the possibility exists so do innumerable universes where that outcome occurred.

It is literally impossible for a finite number of universes to have a possible outcome if there are infinite universes from which it could happen. It defies mathematics.

>>87822256
The reason you're wrong, roughly speaking, is that infinite sampling doesn't imply infinite variance. Doesn't imply nonzero variance for some things either.

Honestly the only way it makes sense is if he's making a joke, there's no way it can be rationalised as a serious statement without changing the meaning of words.

>>87822256
Consider the sequence 1, 2, 3, 4.... etc. The numbers increase infinitely, but you will not get an infinite permutation of those numbers. The sequence may be infinite, but you will still never see, for example, 4, 5, 7, 2.

>>87822274
>but thats irrelevant to the fact that if there is an infinite number of realities, there is an infinite number of the same outcome
No, there's really not. You're using this "infinite number of realities" thing to make reaching conclusions that don't make any sense. There being an infinite number of realities doesn't imply that realities where a specific set of criteria exist are infinite. What makes you think there's an infinite number of realities where Rick completed the device at the beginning of the episode? What makes you think there's an infinite number of realities where Rick even bothered to make the device in the first place?

Here are the conditions this hinges on:
1) That Rick decided to make the Ionic Defibulizer.
2) That Morty confronted Rick about never doing anything for him in response to being asked for a screwdriver.
3) Where Rick actually bothered to make the potion for Morty in the first place.
4) Where an influenza outbreak caused the virus to become rampant.

The fifth being Rick actually getting lucky and fixing everything. Again, you are making assumptions that since there are an infinite number of realities that each of them has the exact same set of criteria he was looking for as if it were exactly like his previous universe.

>>87822318
>It defies mathematics.
No, it does not. >>87822387

>central finite curve

there aren't infinite Ricks, the show fucking states that

>>87822274
What makes you say that, Anon?

>>87822274

Yes just like in an infinite list of ascending numbers the numbers must all repeat themsel.... wait a second...

That's right kiddo, infinitely large arrays of unique items is possible.

>>87822451
Came to post this.
The show takes place in a finite portion of the theoretically infinite reality.

>>87822397
Yes, there should be an infinie number of realities where the same criteria are met, because the number is infinite, the possibilities of it happening are endless. Even if it happens once every 10^82 times, since the number is infinite, the times it happens will be infinite

>>87822427
That's not how it works. An increasing series of numbers that have, by definition,only a single outcome that is possible for each, is not what is being discussed by anyone here.

For the example to have any validity, then literally any number whatsoever, without exception, so long as it's possible for that number to exist, would be a possible outcome for any specific universe.

What is being discussed and your point are two different things that have no overlap outside of the fact something infinite is being mentioned.

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>>87822675
Now you're just ignoring the rest of the thread.

It's silly to try to apply logic here, but the show literally says there is a "finite curve". There is no infinite number of Rick/Mortys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_1G2ABIeI

Also, the only Rick who is a happy, well-adjusted man was kidnapped by the other Ricks so they could make better-tasting cookies.

>>87822738
So we're not talking about what they mean when they say "infinite" in the show? Because I'm pretty sure that is what they mean.

>>87821446
Because the writers are retards.

>>87821882
Yes it does. Moron.

I blame le deep tv show philosophy youtubers trying to make AAA hollywood schlock and shonen anime sound like philosophical masterpieces. Now idiots watch those and think they've got a super deep appreciation for things when theyre just parroting the same pseuds

>>87822793
Then they aren't using 'infinite' right given that it means literally no countable number, meaning that so long as something is physically possible there would be more universes with that outcome then one could make a number to count.

>>87821446
statistics, brainlet

>>87822956
>it means literally no countable number
That's not true. It means "without limit". It's a lot less specific than you think.

>>87822427
The analogy doesn't work, because we're not talking about something that couldn't happen, we're talking about something that could and did. If an infinite multi-verse can produce something once then it will produce it infinitely.

It's like the monkey and the typewriter. It wouldn't just type out the complete works of Shakespeare once, it would type it out an infinite number of times.

>>87821446
the final pill is that there's only one reality. if you wound back the time for the universe, everything would turn out the same every time because there would nothing causing it to be different

>>87821446
I doubt he scanned all of infinity because that's literally impossible. He probably scanned and then stopped at a few dozen.

>>87823105
Would they also paint the Mona Lisa an infinite number of times? Build their own computers? Discover a cure for cancer? I mean, there are infinite Universes, after all.

>>87821446
They also had to die in that reality, shortly after fixing everything.

>>87823032
https://www.google.ca/search?q=infinity+definition&oq=infinity+definitin&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.5727j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

>>87823180
If that happened in a universe in an infinite multiverse, then it would happen in infinite universes too.

>>87823169
This guy gets it.

>>87823034
>If an infinite multi-verse can produce something once then it will produce it infinitely.

What? There's no guarantee that a certain result has to be produced again. Consider the fact that infinite =\= all encompassing.

>>87823223
You'd think so, but no. One infinity does not necessitate the other.

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>>87823105
but... has the monkey read shakespeare though?

>>87823295
Why wouldnt it be produced agan, if it was produced once? Remember there is an infinite number of times it could happen

>>87823295
What is the conceit of the show with regards to how any why each universe is different? I suppose you could conceivably have some sort of mechanism that would create universes infinitely but a certain type finitely, but it doesn't make much sense.

>>87823295
>Consider the fact that infinite =\= all encompassing

But it does mean that, so long as it's possible, there is a finite chance of it happening, which means for every X number of universes it will have 1 time it happens. Given how in this case the total number of universes is infinite, it doesn't matter how many times you cut it down by X, it's still infinite.

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>tfw 2 intelligent to understand set theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_number

>>87823525
That assumes it's down to chance though.

>reddit and memey
die

>>87823581
But it is, just by doing anything at random, it will happen at what averages to a set number of times per X number of times it could be the outcome. X in this case is a finite number within an infinite pool, so it will, by definition, happen in an infinite number.

This is a case of a countable infinite (times it happened) compared to an uncountable infinite (universes)

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>>87822318
>tfw 0 universes where i get a gf

>>87823736
It's worst then that, if infinite universes is true, there are infinite (you)s who have a gf despite not being any different in any way that matters.

>>87821446
>There's an infinite number of realities

If there is a 0% chance something is going to happen its not going to happen even given infinite chances

>>87823851
Sad!

>>87821446
>If they are infinite, why did he only achieve that in a few dozen?

There are infinite numbers between 1 and 2, but 3 isn't one of them. People seem to think that infinity realitis mean all possibilities must be real, but that's not how things go

>>87823437
And it could very well not happen all those times
The way I understand it, there is a very high chance, approaching 100% but never quite reaching it, of it happening, but it is never guaranteed.

>>87823936
>People seem to think that infinity realitis mean all possibilities must be real, but that's not how things go

But it does mean that all physically possible outcomes are true, and infinite times over.

The 3 in this situation is physically impossible, and happens in 0 universes.

>>87823936
That is not the point here.
The thing is that, even within possible outcomes, there is no guarantee of any given outcome coming true

>>87823855
There isn't a 0% chance in this case so it'd happen again an infinite number of times if there are infinite universes.

>>87823525
>But it does mean that.

I stopped reading here because no it doesn't. There's an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 but that doesn't equate to all possible numbers in that instance of infinity.

>>87824259
You missed the most important part idiot.
>so long as it's possible

>>87823525
you can have an infinite number of universes where the only difference between them is the shade of your neighbor's house
you have to be specific when talking about infinities

>>87824016

The mental gymnastics here...

>>87824314

Possibly doesn't not mean guaranteed, retard.

>>87824409
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/physics/105-the-universe/cosmology-and-the-big-bang/our-place-in-the-universe/632-if-there-are-infinity-universes-will-every-thing-that-is-possible-happen-intermediate

>inb4 you resort to just pretending to be retarded

it doesn't have to make sense it's just a cartoon . . .

>>87821446

Those might just be the ones he knows of.

They've stated in other episodes that Rick and Morty's adventures are almost inconsequential because if they fuck one reality up, they have an infinite choice of any other universe that would at least be similar enough to their original universe for them to assimilate into it.

>>87822745
Flip a coin infinite amount of times. How many times will it land on heads?

>>87821446
He can't search through an infinite amount of dimensions. Even if he is a super-duper scientist, it's literally impossible. He'd keep searching forever.

>>87821446
there may be infinite realities but there's not 1 where ur a good poster

>>87824482

Stop memeing and posting articles that literally repeat the point you made with a flawed premise.

Check this out.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/working-with-infinity.html

>>87824706
Nothing in that has anything to do with this thread.

Here's something to ponder. Even in an infinite number of universes, there are still limited possibilities of outcomes. For instance, a coin may land in different places each time you tossed, but would never, no matter if you tossed it infinite times, land outside the area of possibility. There will be a zone of possibility, outside of which it would never land. So the idea that in infinite universes, anything could happen is flawed. Some things just would never happen, even with infinite variations of possible outcomes.

>>87822856
>Hurr damn writerz can't make a realistic story in an infinite timeline universe setting
This whole thread is autistic for trying to treat the details of this show like they're plausible or coherent. It's all about the basic plot structure and the jokes, so calm down you fucking autists

>>87824818
No one's saying that anything could happen. They're saying that if something has the possibility of happening, it will happen an infinite number of times when there's infinite chances for it to happen.

>>87824809
yes it does, you're just a fucking retard

>>87824907
Please point out where.

>>87824598
>Flip a coin infinite amount of times. How many times will it land on heads?

50% chance in every flip, it will never be 100%, just very (very) close

>>87824809

Holy fuck. You posting the "pretending to be retarded" bit was just you projecting, huh?

>>87821446
>TRULY infinite universe exist
>therefore EVERY possibility has happened in them
>including the existence of something that can destroy all of them
>there has to be one timeline where that thing has already done it
>yet everything still exists

wtf?!

>>87824950
Thanks for trying.

>>87824881
This show is written by retards.

>>87824963
>TRULY infinite universe exist
>>therefore EVERY possibility has happened in them

But that's not what "truly infinite" means...

>>87825078
It's a good show

>>87824259
>but that doesn't equate to all possible numbers in that instance of infinity
It does.

>>87825153
First two seasons were good. Not futurama, simpsons, bojack, southpark, king of the hill, mission hill good. But it was definitely almost as good as those shows.

>>87821664

36 / infinity = 0

0 = number of gods that are real

damn maybe this rick guy really is quite smart....

>>87821446
think of it like this:

there is an infinite amount of numbers between 3 and 4, but none of them are the integer 5

>>87825316
Season 3 is good.
Episode 1 is great, then ep 2 takes a steep dive, and it slowly crawls out by ep 5

>>87823647

>>87825766

You get it.

ITT no one knows what infinity is

inf - 1 is still infinity

Thus, infinity can exclude events. "Infinity" doesn't necessarily mean that literally every possible or even impossible combination of events or outcomes has happened.

>>87821882
actually it does. there's an old saying "an infinite number of monkeys typing on an infinite number of typewriters would eventually write every book known to mankind".

This is a little bit misleading. In actuality, an infinite number of monkeys typing on an infinite number of typewriters would write an infinite number of copies of all variations of all books ever written or what ever will be written by mankind instantly.

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>>87826839
>Infinity and zero are different degrees of the same value.

>>87823855
That's not how chance works.
There is never a 0% chance.

Tomorrow there is a probability of you dying by a meteor at the odds of 1-1,600,000. Opposed to the probability of 1-93 in which you get hit by a car.
So if you have 1,600,000 versions of you, you still might not get hit by a meteor. However it's almost guaranteed one of you will be hit by a car.
Increase the variable by an infinite number.

>>87826839
There are an infinite number of objects identical to the "one object" you've subtracted from an infinite number of objects.

>>87827006
There's a 0% chance that a normal die will roll a 7.

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because the Finite Curve.

out of all infinity, there is only so many that are similar enough. to many standard deviations away from the peak, and you get too weird.

Simple Rick is 12 deviations away from most ricks. Which is why he refused the portal gun and focused on his family.

>>87821446
In the other infinite he didn't even mess it up

>>87827006
What is going to change to make a meteor or car appear out of no where? Like if you liked in the middle ages you aren't going to be hit by a car no matter what infinite number of realities there are.

>>87827102
>out of all infinity, there is only so many
Oxymoron.

>>87822451
>>87822583

This, you mathematically literate and illiterate faggots

>>87826924
Not if they all start flipping out and throwing their shit. With infinite possibilities like that you could say there are infinite possilities that they don't do it.

Its a tv show damn. Niggas need to turn yall brain off.

>>87827090
Owned

>>87827166
There are different infinities, sone bigger than others.

>>87822387
>>87822427
>random chance is the same thing as a set sequence
Start randomly selecting integers. Do this for an infinite period of time.
You WILL get the sequence 4572, and you will get it an infinite number of times.

>you now realise that there might be infinite Evil Mortys

How fucked are we? Rick is already aware he's in a TV show

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Basically the show is wrong about how infinity works.

It's not real life, it's a cartoon. they can be wrong. for fucks sake the show has giant floating heads that blow up planets for a music contests...

there is no central finite curve, and there is no multiverse.

and here's some food for thought, for you multiverse guys.
If the universe was infinitely LARGE. that means there's a 100% chance of an infinite number of earths being created. essentially the multi-verse can exist in just one universe

Central
Finite
Curve

What >>87827102 posted is all you need to know. Those curves left and right of the peak are asymptotic, thus satisfying you autists" need for muh infinity

Rick never scans realities outside of light grey area, even if a few of them have Ricks too

>>87827102
>Simple Rick is 12 deviations away from most ricks. Which is why he refused the portal gun and focused on his family.

And the other Ricks kidnapped him anyway. Evil Morty's plan to kill all the Ricks is starting to seem very reasonable.

>>87827544
That's complete bullshit. Pi can be thought of as having infinite random digits, but it still never repeats itself.

>>87827976
but pi digits arent random

>>87828040
Okay. Does it matter?

>>87827544
>Start randomly selecting integers. Do this for an infinite period of time. You WILL get the sequence 4572, and you will get it an infinite number of times.

How do you know this for sure?

>>87828766
Because you can create a bijection with all the sets that contain that subsequence with the set of naturals. This thread is retarded.

>>87825316
>bojack
>good

>second season
>good
>implying this season isn't blowing the second one the fuck out

>>87821446
Because technically it's not infinite, but just a number of branching chances that inevitable lead to an end. So while to our mind it seems to be infinite, in reality you'd find an end when all possibilities had been explored.
It's subjective, and while a few dozen is like underestimating, infinity is not a real thing.

>>87828872
Picture this

You have an hypothetical infinite set of natural numbers between 1 and 3. That infinite sequence could very well go 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 and so on, forever. There is a very small chance of it happening, but it is a possibility. Nothing guarantees with 100% certainty there will ever be a 3 in that set, even though it is very likely there will. The likelihood of drawing a 3 is infinitely close to 100%, but never quite there. Every time a new number is generated, it could just be another 1 or 2, infinitely, however unlikely it may be.

>>87821446
If there are infinite real numbers between 1 and 10, why are there only 10 natural numbers?

>>87828872
That only means they have the same cardinality. You can have an infinite set without 4572 that has the same cardinality as the naturals.

>>87821446
because he's a wizard.