> What went wrong? >> SJWs You morons, Star Trek was

>>87600311
Kill you all and mix your ashes with pigs blood

>>87600311
whos this qt patootie

>>87600311
it will suck because they are making star trek into a blockbuster action movie/series. Those who complain about the sjw aspect are just edgy /pol/tards not sticking to their containment board.

>>87600380
>first interacial kiss on tv
>now trek turned sjw
wew lad

>>87600424
Dani Dolce

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>>87600311
>Is the black transgender main character named Michael a reference to Michelle Obama?

>>87600455
> implying that he doesn't enjoy Game of Thrones

>>87600475
>first interacial kiss on tv
wrong

>>87600512
I honestly don't. I know that's hard for your idiotic brain to comprehend, but there are people who don't find mindless stupid action fun.

>>87600512
I've never seen an episode of Game of Thrones. you know why? Because the ending will be a huge disappointment and the ongoing story will ultimately waste my time just like Mad Men, Lost, Battlestar Galactica, The Sopranos, Twin Peaks, and every show of its kind has and so will Discovery.

>>87600311
>watching anything made after 2010
why bother

>>87600563
What show was then? I'm genuinely curious.

>>87600602
I Love Lucy

>>87600567
Only pretentious idiots with their foot up their arse pretend to not enjoy Game of Thrones. It's usually 17 to 24 year old that have an obsession with "I'm not a kid!".

>>87600311
Implying Kekistaniggers are old enough to have watched the original series.

>>87600636
kys you literal manchild moron. waste of life

>>87600311
oh yeah well we were neckbeard autists before
ohwait

>>87600563
>>87600602
>>87600609
Hispanics are white in most cases.

>>87600609
You should know by now "diversity" is only brown and white

>>87600642
>implying libtards aren't triggered over the original series
remember mudd episodes are not funny just offensive, and kirk was a rapist :^)

>>87600609
Desi Arnaz was white hispanic

>>87600657
When the truth hurts you respond with bs, I get it.

>>87600602
Sammy Davis Jr. on some variety show

>>87600678
Now, it's just that hispanics are often white https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans

>>87600673
>>87600693
>hispanic
>white
pick one

>>87600712
no you're thinking of when he kissed Archie Bunker, that would be the first interracial same sex kiss I suppose.

>>87600311
Yeah, the SJW complaint was always stupid.

What REALLY went wrong is that they don't understand why people liked Star Trek, and are trying ot make it reflect our current world (instead of the idealized world to aim for it's always been.... not counting DS9, which has differing opinions in itself)

>>87600733
>>hispanic
>>white
>pick one
That's like saying a Blonde Norwegian is not white if he turns muslim, which is retarded.

>>87600762
hispanic is a religion now?

>>87600752
The only thing wrong here is that you judging a show without watching a single episode.

>>87600780
no you moron, it's a cultural identification, not a racial one.

>>87600694
do you honestly believe that everyone on this planet likes GoT? You can't argue with a stupid statement as that. It's unbelievable that a person would think that all the other people only like mindless crap and everything above that is pretentious.

>>87600814
No it's racial you prolapsed cunt.

>>87600311
It was actually hated because it was advertised as taking place in the prime Star Trek universe when it's just another nu Trek reboot.
That enraged the hardcore trekkies.
For me at least the cast isn't that promising either.
And the advertised plot about the nu Klingons sounds retarded.
It looks more idiotic than the Orville and that's an accomplishment.

>>87600424
Sonequa Martin Green

>>87600876
>It looks more idiotic than the Orville and that's an accomplishment.
Orville is actually good, give it a shot dude. It's not funny at all, but it does feel like star trek.

>>87600733
Tons of Hispanics are white.

Hispanic just means you come from a Spanish speaking country. Not everyone is mestizo. There are Black Hispanics too.

>>87600311
it had a hint of social justice but it was mainly cool sci-fi stories

>>87600792
You expect me to believe this isn't going to have a shit load of anti-European shit in it, coming directly from Marxist Kikes?
This isn't like the old days, when they bothered with the pretense of entertainment.
Modern Marxists suck ass and hiding their propaganda. It's right in your face and they yell about it all over the place.
Just look how they advertised this stupid series.
Just a shit load of SJW buzzwords and victim-talk.
We all know what this horseshit will be.
Another attempt to get the goyim to by the nice lie of utopianism.

>>87600311
Fuck you for shilling nu trek garbage.

>>87600958
He's just trying to take the piss out of you man.

>>87601028
>Hollywood
>being marxist
go fucking back to /pol/ you rabit moron

Yes, but it didn't do it by saying it was never done before and by shitting on progressive people of the past. They just did it and let the work speak for itself.

>>87600563
It's true though, deep space 9 had the first lesbian kiss too

>>87601073
Hollywood has been owned by commies since it was incepted. Stop pretending to be retarded, faggot.

not enough seeds

>>87601150
>Hollywood has been owned by commies since it was incepted. Stop pretending to be retarded, faggot.
weak bait

>tfw all the nuTreks get less and less diverse and progressive but we are told they are more diverse and progressive

ST: white, alien, scottish, black, asian, russian
TNG: bot, blind, mixed empath, bald, kid
DS9: arab, irish, black, ex-terrorist, ball of goo with attitude
VOY: mixed black klingon, woman captain, holodoc
ENT: asian, black vulcan, alien doc

Casting anyone in a TV show other than straight white males is literally white genocide perpetrated by evil jews.

>>87601256
>blind
And black. Jordie was black, remember. And so was Worf (black alien)

>>87600311
There's a difference between Gene's utopian fantasy of humanity coming together as one, and the general anti-white and misandrist sentiments that permeate Hollywood these days. They better hope enough shitskins and women replace the white male fans they'll lose with STD.

>>87600455
>Those who complain about the sjw aspect are just edgy /pol/tards not sticking to their containment board.

Star Trek has always been "progressive". At this point taking it any further would be hamfisted shit. It's not a /pol/ thing.

>>87600311
>Star Trek was a social justice warrior before it was cool.
Try not to compare SJW from 40 years ago with the cancer we have today.If we could even call the older star trek TV series SJW.

>>87601424
>taking it any further
but it's not taking it any further. So yes, complaining about non issues literally is a /pol/ thing.

>>87601073
>no real rebuttal


And the moronic leftist shows himself.

>>87601445
>but it's not taking it any further. So yes, complaining about non issues literally is a /pol/ thing.

No, it isn't. If something is done in bad taste, then it deserves criticism.

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>>87601444

>>87601417
>Heterosexual white men are no longer the sole targeted demographic
>"THE EVIL JEWS ARE GENOCIDING US."

Fuck off back to your containment board /pol/

>>87601517
Shouldn't you be prepping your bull right now?

>>87601479
It's clear as day that hollywood is the embodiment of consumer capitalism, to anyone but /pol/fags.

It's called a containment board for a reason, you have to go back.

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>>87600311
black peopopeleee im not a virgin liberlas are the real reacist!

>>87600311
>No Patrick Stewart Tier Captain
>Acting like it isn't going to ruin canon probably by adding muslims
>Acting like they won't turn the whole thing into a shitty series arc

>>87601517
Evil white men are still Star Trek's only demographic leftypol, please go back to your containment site you fucking tourist.

>>87600311
Who the fuck are you quoting you moron?
STD is a nu Trek trainwreck that doesn't get renewed for a second season.
What went wrong is the production itself.

>>87601028
lmao holy fucking shit imagine if this guy ever had a girlfriend and she read this shit. dude its like you want to ensure you never procreate

>>87601536
>embodiment of consumer capitalism
>worst box office in decades
You understand capitalistic want to make money not burn it yes?

How come australia time is so awful? You guys make the worst fucking threads.

>>87601536
>consumer capitalism
>making shit nobody wants

lel, why don't you fuck off?

>>87601616
there is no logical argument in this post

I guess it's mostly because Star Trek was SJW in an age where it was needed, at least in the scope of "television show"?
But now it's pretty even stuff, black people get lots of awards for TV, there's a bunch of black/minority cast television, etc..

And even then, not only in the perspective of television, we have become in general much more accepting and progressive in our society, especially when compared to the time where Trek was originally airing.You could make a case that race relations are pretty in the shit right now, but that's a more complicated issue than the one Trek faced in it's original run.

IMO that's where the problems come. STD acts as if this is still the 60's and minorities/people of different nationalities are badly treated in society/television, when we all know that's bullshit.

STD's progressiveness should have been subtler and "purer". Because right now it just looks forced.

>>87601616
yes no shit you double digit iq white nigger do you think these corporations actually throw away hundreds of millions of dollars "subverting the goyim" and arent just making poor decisions on what will sell? seth macfarlane has made fox billions, so they give him a show. 2+2=4 you water filter faggot

>>87601631
>nobody watches hollywood movies
I wish /pol/fag

>>87601675
Nobody with half a brain

>>87601659
>seth macfarlane
wrong sci fi disaster

>>87600311
I've had enough of these black women that look like white girls. Where the real Afrikan queens hollywood?

>>87601703
so what do you watch then? please tell.

>>87601703
what the fuck does that have to do with anything? most people are idiots, like you, and they watch dogshit. do you think whichever network is developing this turd is doing it for politics and not money?

>>87601551
Picard's command at his best was way above every other captain's ability and he was a strong ambassador who resolved multiple heated disputes. Also, his bridge crew was way more tactical than Kirk's. People who say the TOS crew would beat the TNG crew in equal combat are obvious TOS fanboys. There's only a couple occurrences where Kirk really shows his command ability compared to Picard who does this in a wide range of scenarios.

>>87601675
Chinks are watching, and no one else.

>>87601772
>having this abysmally idiotic arguments
are you a serb by any chance?

>>87601736
>>87601738
>do you think whichever network is developing this turd is doing it for politics and not money?

It's both, and it's all hamfisted shit to the point where the average viewer who isn't a blind zealot can see it. It's in all of western media.

Geez, you /leftypol/ faggots need everything spelled out for you.

>you'll never see a fat sassy black female freighter captain in the star trek universe that gets into all sorts of wacky adventures with her delinquent crew

Feels bad man

Reminder that Netflix paid the budget for season one.
And they all but sued the producers when they saw the end result.

>/pol/ loves mentioning that Jason Isaacs is Jewish for some reason
>fails to mention William Shatner is also a Jew

>need to force a young black woman character for political reasons
>meh, who cares

>can't have her be captain because she's too young and they need her to actually do stuff like away missions which captains tend not to do
>ok, have her be first officer

>STD make her the first officer
>cool

>STD then say that she's the "main character" and will be the focus of the series
>defeating the purpose of the ensemble cast nature of the show which has always existed
>insta-trash

I have no problem with "diversity" in ST but when it ends up dictating and then causing retarded premise decisions then it's just hot garbage

>>87600311
It wasn't as forced.

Star Trek has always been progressive show. No news here. It would be awkward if they adopted a neutral tone in a period as now.

>>87601941
>Star Trek has always been progressive show
Star Trek also knew to restrain itself, lest they alienate their core demographic (white nerds). We'll see with Discovery, but the outlook isn't good if the identity politics the marketing department is playing is any indication.

>>87601073
He's not wrong thoggh

>>87602190
Yeah the truth is only white bois really like Star Trek.

>>87602454
He literally is though

>>87600311
>Star Trek was a social justice warrior before it was cool.

It was never cool and Star Trek wasn't SJW, it was classically liberal. That's what the latter day "fans" don't seem to get.

Everyone wasn't equal in Star Trek, everyone got a chance. They didn't have a 50/50 klingon/human split on the bridge, Worf was an anomaly with severe identity problems thanks to his upbringing. Data wasn't just accepted, he had to fight for them to even recognize him as a sentient being rather than an appliance. Although there were some good Romulans they were a different race with a different culture and antithetical to Federation values.

The entire point of the crew diversity was that nobody got the position based on identity.

Can't wait for the porn version with Harley Dean.

>>87602655
>The entire point of the crew diversity was that nobody got the position based on identity.
and are you implying that this show is going to be any different?

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>>87602544
>Yeah the truth is only white bois really like Star Trek.
White boys are the only people who can really appreciate a fine black woman so it is only natural that they are the only ones that like star trek.

>>87600311
I remember for decades now that for the modern culture being a Star Trek fun was practically a certificate of virginity.
I don't think Star Trek was ever cool.
Good luck selling the ultra politicized nu Trek to the fandom.

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>>87601357
>Worf (black alien)
Wolf was belorussian from Minsk you fucker!

>>87600311
At no time did ST ever attempt to punish White people for acts of their ancestors. They even had an episode in TNG on that point.

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>>87600311
>You morons, Star Trek was a social justice warrior before it was cool.

You clearly don't remember Sisko and DS9 in general, he was pretty much the opposite of an SJW.

Also Kirk? It's only really TNG that got a bit SJW and that show was retarded for a number of reasons.

>let's build a grand new capital ship for the fleet
>put a whiney asshole like Picard in charge
>let's put children and non-combatants on a military vessel and make it patrol the DMZ

Fucking retards.

DS9 > Original Series > Voyager > Enterprise > TNG

>>87600311
It's always been a more "Liberal" Show/Film Series with added scenes of them blasting people with Phasers and Rayguns

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>>87605490
you have to bear in mind that the Enterprise-D was a reflection of the time which it was built. There were no more large scale threats to the Federation. They were on friendly terms with the Klingons, peace had been reached with the Cardassians and the Romulans had kept to themselves for almost a century. It was thought to be okay for civilians to be aboard because s far the the Federation was concerned at that point their Flag Ship could mostly just conduct their primary objective of research and diplomacy and be a little microcosm of what the Federation is as an example to be shown other races.

>>87600311
>star wars and star trek already full sjw.

whats the next franchise?

>>87600762
Let's explore a common family situation in Latin America.
>German/Spanish/Dutch/Portuguese family immigrates to Latin America in 1800s
>only marry other whites
>speak Spanish

They're still white in if they haven't reproduced with any natives or blacks. Speaking another language and moving doesn't magically change phenotype.

Same with Asians in Panama, Peru, Brazil, etc. Still Asian.
Same with blacks everywhere.

Hispanic. Is. Not. A. Race.

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>>87606582
Dune. Hollywood can't be accused of employing face dancers to be Fremen

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>>87600499
niggers

>>87606660
That's like saying Mulattos are white because they aren't entirely black. Nice try Pablo.

>>87600311
>STD

This will never stop being funny

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>>87606701
>dat Roman Newsreader

>>87600311
>> What went right?
Straightening the hair. I LOVE black women, but the curly hair turn me right off.

>>87606832
oh my god no... I wasnt expecting this answer. I'm fucking shaking right now.

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>>87600311

Shouldn't have fired Mr Homolust

>>87602655
>classically liberal
that means racist nowadays.

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but it's true. SJWs did ruin Trek.

Trek wasn't about pushing FOTM social justice memes. It was about creating a universe where there was no need to constantly remind people of how racist they were. Roddenberry's vision was one where all the social problems were solved, an optimistic future not a gritty future that's used to parallel contemporary strife and give "just so" TV-level solutions to real life problems.

Trek isn't about fixing real life or even about pointing out what is wrong with real life, it's about optimism. SJW mentality is the opposite of optimism because it involves always assuming the worst.

For this reason Discovery will probably suck. Plus it looks like JJ's movies and they completely missed the point of Trek so you know it's gonna blow.

It's sad that The Orville has more of the spirit of Star Trek than Star Trek Discovery (STD for short.)

>>87606766
Wtf i like klingons now.

>>87606766
Notn-merican here. Trump supporters want racial purity? In America? Is this a meme?

>>87600311
That shit isn't Star Trek it's a nu Trek reboot / prequel. So your point is moot.
And since everyone included the producers have already accepted it's going to flop, the SJW may as well keep it as their own.

>>87607414
yes. a shitty meme. you can't believe what our media says.

>>87607476
I don't, that's why it felt so off to me.

>>87600636
Nah its fucking boring.
Also don't think youre cool for acting like a retard.

>>87607476
Well i still believe that russians put Trump on his throne. Gotta be true.
t. russian

>>87607363
>It's sad that The Orville has more of the spirit of Star Trek than Star Trek Discovery
you did not even see STD yet. I watched Orvell and it's a retarded comedy where bridge crew are just guys from sitcom that giggle at captain. Trek spirit lasted for first 5 minutes only.

>>87607363
>that pic
>that attitude
>that thinking
saddest thing I've read today

>>87605458
>They even had an episode in TNG on that point.
i remember
it was a Q episode
based TNG

The problem is that the show is leaning on social justice as a crutch. It falsely believes that having a black female lead is interesting enough to sell the series when it isn't. It's boring. As stated, Star Trek has always been progressive. It's nothing new.

To put it in another way, imagine I was trying to sell you a car and my sticking point was that this new and improved car had the revolutionary feature of being able to go in reverse. You'd probably think to yourself, "Well, so what, cars have pretty much always been able to go in reverse? That's really all they have to say about that new car? That it has a 'new' feature that was standard on every car ever made in my lifetime? What's next, 'it has wheels?'" That's the situation Trek fans are faced with: Discovery's sales pitch, the thing that makes it unique, is that it has something every single Star Trek series always featured. So what?

That said, hopefully, the actual show will move past the "hey look it's a black woman!" and do something interesting with their time on television. Hopefully, they tell some good stories and create good characters that we grow to know and care about. Hopefully, Star Trek Discovery is good. Truth be told, despite the bad presentation so far, despite the poor sales pitch, they may have a good show. Personally, I'm going to give it an honest shot and watch it with an open heart. It's not like we get Star Trek stuff all the time.

>>87607665
Of course I've seen STD. It's gonna be JJ abrams movies on repeat with ham fisted "oh the humanity of this racism" plots over and over again set to female empowerment action scenes.

And Janeway, for the record, is still my favorite captain.

>>87607870
the problem with putting a black woman as the captain is that it will be hard for people to self insert

she is a woman
how am i supposed to self insert as a woman?

>>87607955
>how am i supposed to self insert as a woman?
Ha.

>>87600733
No he's thinking about Nancy Sinatra, the two kissed on Movin' with Nancy over a year before the Star Trek episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L14hBy0ODIw

>>87607414
no they just want to kick all the spics out and gas the jews is all.

>>87607993
there better be an interesting male character for me to identify as
>TOS has Kirk,Spok,Doc
>TNG has Picard,Worf and Number 1
>Enterprise has commander Tucker,Archer and the alien Doc
etc.

>>87601357
>And black. Jordie was black, remember. And so was Worf (black alien)
yes and nobody gave a shit about it

>>87601514
i wanna bang uhura in that dress. she was fine <3

>>87607821
There was also the one with the Native Americans. It kinda sucked as an episode though.

>>87602751
This educated black people have a hard time finding their peers.

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>>87600311
I legit got triggered as fuck by the black bitch .in an interview she says how std is breaking through boundaries like it never could of before cause the white male fans just were not ready for a strong black women lead .

they are trying to twist trek into something it never was and they act like the previous 50 years never happened . only std is breaking through the racial / gender boundaries .

fuck these people trek is officially gone mainstream

>>87608125
You mixed up ENT.
Trip was head of engineering and Archer was the captain.

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>>87608190
>she was fine
Star Trek always had the best eye candy.If there isn't a single sexy shot in the new Star Trek i'll drop it faster than a red hot glowing ember.

>>87608431
Didn't they still refer to him as commander Tucker?I know that he wasn't the captain.

>>87608399
>trek is officially gone mainstream
:-D

>>87608495
They might have I don't remember desu.

>>87600569
>Twin Peaks
>disappointing ending
L Y N C H E D
Y
N
C
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E
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>>87608399
>the white male fans just were not ready for a strong black women lead
And countless whiny threads on 4chan are only proving her right.

>>87606766
>Racial purity
>Have TNG, ridgeless, and retard looking varieties
They've got even more phenotypical variation than humans do, why aren't they concerned about that if they're the 'Trump supporters' of the Trek verse?

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>>87608399
>they act like the previous 50 years never happened
Well they have to create some buzz around their show.But if i don't see her half naked in the first few episodes i'll drop this show so hard.
>Kirk is half naked all the time can barely keep his shirt on
>Picard had his skimpy clothes episodes
>Archer had his bathroom scenes and shirtless scenes
Or maybe she is not man enough to show some skin?

>>87608633
>he can self insert as a back woman
Are you a faggot?

I am sorry but i can't self insert as a woman so unless there is an interesting male character present i am not going to watch this.

>>87608399
>I legit got triggered as fuck by the black bitch .in an interview she says how std is breaking through boundaries like it never could of before cause the white male fans just were not ready for a strong black women lead .
And the way you keep bitching about it you aren't ready indeed

Yeah, remember how the humans (the white people) were always the bad guys? Remember how Janeway was exactly like the other captains personality wise because men and women are exactly the same? Remember how 7 of 9 was a fat black woman because body positivity (IE, anti-male sexuality) is important? Remember when sisko completely refused to ever work with Quark because he was a problematic asshole who was literally hitler? Remember when the klingons has green skin because brown skin on anything, regardless of context, is racist? Remember all the transexual cast members who drilled the point home that if you are comfortable with your born in genitals then you're wrong? Remember all the subplots about how violence is the way to deal with people who you disagree with in ways that hurt your feelings? Remember the lack of meritocracy becauce meritocracy is just code for white male dominance? Remember when the Romulans were in active war with the federation, and a bunch of Romulans came to live on Earth and the people who said this could be a problem were charged with hate speech? Remember when 60% of a crew was gay at any given time? Remember when the federation would meet an alien race, be nice to them, get fucked over by that race, then conclude that it must have been their fault for not being nice enough and would keep giving more and more to try to appease them? Remember when the head of the federation gave that speech where he said "mankind needs to shut up and sit down and listen to what the dominion has to say" because the founder were at one point oppressed? Remember when Picard sat Wesley down and explained to him the 97 genders he can choose from? Remember when Q first came and was lamenting on humanities mistakes and one of the big ones was a electing an orange guy who makes tweets that people don't like about groups that are killing innocents by the thousands? Remember when O'brien let Odo cuck him because its the right thing to do?

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>>87608802
>he self inserts as the protag
Get a life nerd

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>>87608802
You can self insert as the captain, white male and strong actor Jason Isaacs.

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they better have the original trek uniforms present or i'll be very disappointed

>>87608904
They will kill him off in the first episode.I am ready to bet 100$ on this.
>>87608895
>hitler reaction image
>calls me a nerd
>posts in a star trek thread
are you retarded?

>>87605490

>sisko/DS9 opposite of SJW
>sisko still has a hangup about racial injustice of america that happened 600 years ago in ST timeline
>literal episodes where he's a writer during the 50s and getting his ass kicked by white men who call him nigger

wew laddo

>>87608958
>They will kill him off in the first episode.I am ready to bet 100$ on this.
They're killing off the Asian captain in the first episode.

She's the captain of the USS Shenzhou, it blows up, the main character gets transferred to the USS Discovery, and he's the captain for the rest of the series.

>>87600311
you dont seem to understand the difference between Social jJstice and a Social Justice Warrior.

Star Trek did social justice "before it was cool", but it didn't try to shove it down your throat like a SJW does.That's the key difference. Black people felt natural in Star Trek, because having a black skin color wasn't their defining trait.

Modern Star Trek "diversity" is forced and feels unnatural.

>heh btw. did I mention I'm GAY
>btw. guys I'm a WOMAN and I'm just as good (or better, heh) as a man
>uhhh don't you remember SLAVERY?

>>87608977
and the show made it pretty clear that he was in the wrong for obsessing about that. That's why ulimately he learned to get over himself and appreciate the vic fontaine simulation for what it is.

>>87609041
>quoting imaginary dialogue
>from a show that you haven't even seen yet
Wew.

>>87609079
I can tell the future, my friend.

>>87600455
>/pol/ boogyman
Where will you be when Muslims are raping your family and burning the west?

There's a difference between 1990s progressive and 2010s SJW. There was still a sense of fun at that time. Case in point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Zf-OxMkrE

>>87609134
Israel :v)

>>87609035
What, really?Well i guess there is hope for Discovery.

Is there any evidence of this show being remotely SJW?
For real what is the argument here? The MC is black? Sisko was black and he was in one of the best star trek shows ever. Is is because she was a woman? Janeway was a woman and there are plenty of examples of female captains and officers.
The entire '''controversy''' around this show is completely fabricated bulls hit caused by sjws getting triggered at /pol/autists getting triggered over fucking nothing

>>87608977
>Implying that's not his kink.

>>87609202
>Janeway was a woman and there are plenty of examples of female captains and officers.
The problem is when all the leads are female and there is no one to self insert as.

get ready for gay sex, lots of in-fighting fake drama, war, nazi klingons (which will be cool), and stronk womyn who don't need no man! this is nu-trek. just fuck my trek up famalam.

Star Trek wasn't "social justice warrior", it was social equality.

Roddenberry couldn't forsee the inability of the negro race to stand on its own and instead demand greater and greater handouts long after they had reached equality with their white "brothers".

>>87600311
>Spock's secret adopted sister
This is precisely where it went wrong, it's not because she's black, it's because this is a fucking stupid bio

>>87609300
>get ready for gay sex
Bryan Fuller left the show.

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>>87609300
I don't know.Enterprise was pretty recent but it was full of eye candy and half naked scenes.

>>87609290
>all the leads are female
The captain is male.

>>87609376
he probably goes to the holodeck to air his drag fetish

>>87609376
Now i know that but when i watched one of the first trailers and saw the poster i got confused enough to think that it was all women.

Their marketing is horrible.

Nobody cares about there being a black main character

It's just too damn edgy for it's own good

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>>87608821
>>87608633
you fuckin dumbass twits why can't you grasp people we were ok with a female captin we were ok with a black captin .now you new kids come along and pretend that this black female lead bothers us?

what actually bothers us is as I said the past 50 years never happened . this new show is not breaking through any boundaries as past shows did it is instead digressive to appeal to knuckle dragging fools like you 2 . its all already been done I doubt people like you have ever even watched anything other then the new films .

>>87609326
>Earth's top diplomats to Vulcan die
>their daughter is orphaned
>she has no family left
>she wants to stay on Vulcan
Who are you going to ask other than Vulcan's top diplomats?

>ask the Vulcan orphanage
Yeah, yeah, in real life, sure. But in a work of fiction, who are you going to ask other than Vulcan's top diplomats?

>>87609427
>Their marketing is horrible.

virtue signaling > profit

they'll just blame the fans for being raycis women haters if it fails

>>87609448
this

>star trek was ever cool

lamo my sides have been officially broken

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>>87608906

>>87609427
It's meant to be a twist.

You're meant to be surprised when the Asian captain dies.

Oops, spoilers.

>>87609448
>we were ok
lmao, only because those shows came out before you were born or hit puberty

>>87606766
Klingons aren't isolationist. They want combat with anyone willing to fight them.

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>>87609479
>star trek was ever cool

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>>87609543
Klingons also don't particularly care about racial purity. Every hole was a goal

>>87609376
lmao I thought (after watching the trailers) that the captain was the black woman.

>>87600311
DS9 was "diverse" without feeling forced and hacky.

>>87609586
>Klingons also don't particularly care about racial purity.

>only 1 cross-breed in show canon

>>87609490
Are those bottoms skin tight?
There better be but shots of the niggress.

>>87601445
>npt taking it further

Tell me again, which previous Star Trek had a female black lesbian captain and no white males among the bridge crew?

>>87600311
she's absurdly hot.

>>87609624
Worf's baby mama was half human

Torres was half human

Alexander was by extension 1/4 human

Multiple half romulan klingons

And Klingon females were shown to be especially randy for aliens - they fucked humans, andorians, Quark and whatever the fuck Neelix was

>>87609630
>which previous Star Trek had a female black lesbian captain and no white males among the bridge crew?
You know what, i take everything back.Discovery will fail real hard.

>>87608869
If I was a woman I'd have your babies.

>>87609686
oh yeah, I forgot everyone except torres

that klingon/romulan crossbreed paradise was weird

>>87609676
How is her body?

>>87609376
He's the bad guy if you haven't realized.

They went full SJW. You never go full SJW.

>>87607414
our media only grasps debates at a childish level where the winner is the first to find a six degrees of Hitler connection to their opponent.

>>87609630
>>87609690
>female black lesbian captain
The captain is a white male.

>and no white males among the bridge crew
In addition to the captain, one of the science officers on the bridge is also a white male.

You /pol/shitters really do need to take a time-out and wait for the show to premiere before you resume your shitposting.

>>87609767
I don't know, I just really like her eyes and face.

>>87609713
in tng picard says misunderstanding first contact causes the problems with the klingons. dont listen to this tldr faggot.

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>>87608958
I'll have you know good sir, I happen to be a Nazi who likes the tech and characters of Star Trek.
I also like their utopian society, which would actually be possible if only you assholes would let us kill the Jews already.

Is it true that every actor involved in STD are trying to get out of their contracts?

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>>87601514
>>87601444
>>87600311
>trek was always SJW

so why did Kirk try to rape cutie Yeoman Rand?

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>>87609767
Maybe like a... 7-7.5?

>>87609866
No. None of the actors are trying to get out of their contracts. It was a rumor made up by some nobody on YouTube.

>>87609884
She doesn't seem to mind.

>>87609884
because that was literally a personification of Kirk's violent impulses

>>87609929
rape culture was still a thing back then
she later says that she would have kept it a secret if he raped her because he was the captain

>>87609884
she was clearly into it
also he'd try to rape everything in that state

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>>87609958
Gotta grab em by the pussy.
Like Kirk or Trump would

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>>87609904
>Maybe like a... 7-7.5?
She's no 7 of 9 that's for sure :^)

>What went wrong?
They decided they didn't want to anchor the ensemble with a really good character actor.
They said, "What kind of gimmick can we use to get people to watch our show?" not realizing people will watch it because it's Star Trek. All they had to do was make a good show. Guess that was asking too much.

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>>87610284
>All they had to do was make a good show.
That is pretty hard to achieve.Relying on gimmicks is how modern TV and cinema is going right now.

>>87610383
Geordie never had a 'fro

>>87610284
>All they had to do was make a good show. Guess that was asking too much.

How do you know they didn't, it hasn't even aired yet

>>87610488
>Geordie never had a 'fro
That's not him.It's just a pic that works with the meme.

>>87610383
What fucking episode does Geordi have that hair?

also no mention of Riker's beautiful beard?

>>87610511
It is always better to lower your expectations.

>>87600311
Can't wait for this show to start.

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>>87610488
>>87610526
>>87610554
It's from behind-the-scenes footage.

>>87610511
>supposed prequel to TOS
>ship has so many holograms and doodads and shit that it makes the Abrahms Trek movies look restrained in comparison

Even Enterprise, as shitty as it was, had a very utilitarian ship that looked low-tech and militaristic compared to TNG and Voyager.

>>87610629
It's set in the period between Pike being maimed and Kirk becoming captain

They did away with the turtlenecks

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>>87610629
The bridge looks huge, but it also doesn't look as cluttered and over-the-top as you claim it to be. Actually kinda subdued.

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>>87610554
>also no mention of Riker's beautiful beard?
i don't make the memes i just post them here
there are tons of them

the old trek shows are a goldmine for meme awesomeness

>>87610704
The bridge looks nice.

>>87610511
I've been looking at the advertising, and reading about the progress of the show leading up to the premiere. The premiere that's been pushed back multiple times. Reading about the switched out show runner, the directive to ape Abrams' Trek, the bonehead idea to link the main character to Spock. Not that it matters; I won't be subscribing just to watch this, so I won't be seeing it anyway.

>>87610704
looks like an expanse set.

why couldn't we have a comfy set like TNG?

>>87610629
Would you really want them to replicate the look of the pilot for this show? I love The Cage, but let's be real; times have changed. That was the future for 60s TV. That is not what the future is for today.

>>87610921
>Eugenics wars have already been and gone

We're in the future nigga

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>>87600311
Would race-mix with

>>87611148
2Vulcan4u

>>87600311
>there's no religion in the future so you can't say God
>however Islam will still exist

>>87611148
she's already mixed-race. But yeah, definately.

>>87611370
>she's already mixed-race
well she is a black woman from America, they are all mixed
wouldnt mind bleaching her some more

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People are right to call foul on SJW bs because:
>Star Trek did include diversity but all the crew had a common cause. They were different but were all 'assimilated' into the cooperative culture of a federation starship.
>Today's progressives no longer believe in downplaying race or having a racially 'blind' society. This means that identity is front and center and people wear it on their sleeves. Differences are elevated, not downplayed.

Yesterday's liberals and today's progressives should be natural enemies. But gotta keep the eye on blue versus red.

>>87611148
>>87600311
Her face is viewing repellant to me

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>blocks the path of whitebois everywhere who isnt going to watch Star Trek
>"YOU FINNA RAYCIS OR SUMMTHING"

>>87611451
Imagine it coved by your cum.

>>87600752
Why are young nerds so retarded? Is it because smart people are more socially acceptable in America now?

I swear to fuck, young nerds don't even know that Comic books, Star Wars, and Star Trek are all super progressive. Like...fucking how do you miss it, retard?

>>87611670
It wasn't the right kind of progessiveness, the kind they're in favor of at this moment

>>87611723
So they're just pretending to be retards?

>>87609624
>t. I've never seen a star trek episode

>>87609623
it was actually diverse in the way modern SJWs hate. IE, diversity is thought and ideas as well.

>>87601028
>le marxism
You have no idea what Marxism is

>>87600311
>implying SJWs are in any way progressive

lol

>>87609904
ewwww why would you put that on tv?

>>87609822
That in no way has anything to do with what's going on with Discovery or what that guy posted.

>>87605490
>citing commander "Black People Have It Bad" sisko as your example of a non sjw captain

Wew fucking lad

>>87609866
>>87609908
No confirmations one way or the other but the idea that everyone either hates it and wants to leave or loves it and wants to continue is absurd. Some want to stay, some want to leave. There's no way it's 100% one way or the other.

>>87611919
>lists 3000 things not in star trek.
>cite the one retarded example out of his mess of bullshit.

>>87611523
same actress? she looks WAYYYY better without overdoing the makeup if so.

>>87610921
It doesn't need to be cheap cardboard with a few blinking lights but Enterprise did it right, ship looked really low-tech and militaristic, hell the interior looked like what you'd see in most movies about submarines.

It wasn't full of minority report interactive hologram displays and shit.

>>87610704
Not appropriate for the period it's set in. Looks like it's straight out of JarJar Abram's Trek.

>>87612029
>same actress?
yup

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I don't know if it'll suck. I hope it doesn't, but everything I've heard seems bad. I don't care about the various races being depicted, or LGBT shit. It's Star Trek. I'm fine with a progressive and hopeful view of the future.

It's the whole "Klingons will be Trump supporters" idea that is reprehensible to me. Again, Trek is supposed to show an idealized future that gives us something to strive towards. It's not supposed to be bald-faced political commentary on the hot-button issues of the day. I want to see a great future. I want to see human potential on the screen. I don't want to be brow-beaten for the sake of being brow-beaten, with slick nu-Trek visuals and lens flare everywhere.

All I can do is fucking hope it isn't like that.

>>87609822
right, and because of that, the humans roll over and let the klingons do whatever the fuck they want, right? Oh wait no, they had a big war and the humans still held the klingons to their own standards when in human soceity.

Remember the episode where Warfs brother comes to the station and wants Warf to kill him (klingon tradition for his dishonor) and Sisko told him if he did it he'd lose his federation commission?

Oh wait no you don't because you've never actually watched star trek and are just here because someone's paying you to be the "I mean I know SJWs are bad but aren't Anti-SJW's worse?" guy.

Episode was Sons of Mogh fyi.

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>>87612254
you spelled mr wuffs name wrong.

what are you guys talking about

>>87610921
Axanar

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>>87601028

>This entire post.

>>87611431
this kinda goes against infinite diversity in infinite combinations to me.

yesterday's liberals are todays racists.

>>87612254
>held the klingons to their own standards when in human soceity

dats raciss

>>87600876
Orville was good, and disc could be as well. Also, it is in the prime universe. Just because the sit isn't made of cardboard and the characters arn't weary 50s on sirs stills doesn't mean it is jj.

>>87614888
>14888
yesterdays liberals are yesterdays racists too

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>>87614991

>Spock had a half black step-sister the entire time that we didn't know about.

>Prime universe

>>87612190
>It's not supposed to be bald-faced political commentary on the hot-button issues of the day

One of the best episodes of TOS was a criticism of proxy war in Vietnam, produced and broadcast during the Vietnam war.

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>>87609490

Holy shit that's overdesigned as fuck.

For all the complains about nuTrek, the Kelvin uniforms got it right. They're simple, practical, and era-appropriate. There's no extraneous bling-bling shit like on these.

>>87600424
Tyra Bangs

>>87611148
filthy nigger lovers

>>87610704
Wouldn't the chairs topple over when they get hit?

>>87611370
No she isn't. Both her parents are black.

>>87609134
Go to bed, Urban.

>>87609490
Was the costume designer some kind of Arab? Why's there so much gold everywhere?