Why can Japan make a great Godzilla movie and Hollywood can't?

Do Japanese people actually talk like they are anime characters with motivational speeches

Because Hollywood knows that the name Godzilla will draw crowds of people. So they'll pick a generic plot out of a hat and put Godzilla in it and call it a day.

Japan has only made 10~ legitimately good-amazing Godzilla films, don't get carried away. Also, >>>/m/

>>87585272
Because the Japanese got nuked, twice. Drawing on cultural experience.

ShinG was an exception, almost all Japanese Godzilla movies are campy shlock

>>87585371
this, the vast majority of the films after the early 70s suck

>>87585272
Shin Godzilla was good because it was heavily based on the Fukushima disaster and it also drew upon the firebombing of Tokyo for some parts

American directors don't know how to be influenced by stuff like that

>>87585358
rank em

>>87586353
>American directors
Gareth Edwards is British and Roland Emmerich is German though

>>87587462
He can't because he hasn't seen any besides G98, G2014, Shin and maybe parts of Final Wars

>>87585323
They speak quickly because Anno's script would have been like three hours otherwise. Toho initially told him no because they didn't have that kind of money. However, he proved otherwise by having anime voice actors record the entire script and showing that it be done in less than two hours. During actual filming Anno forced the actors to speak quickly as possible and would make them redo the scene as much as necessary until he was satisfied.

>>87588853
Interesting. Thanks

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>>87587462
Gojira/KOTM
Shin Godzilla
Mothra vs Godzilla
Monster Zero
GMK
Ghidorah
Godzilla vs Hedorah
Godzilla 2000
Godzilla vs Biollante
Sea Monster

>>87587462
Godzilla, Mothra vs Godzilla, Ghidrah. Monster Zero, GMK, and Shin are the only legitimately good movies. Maybe Ebirah, Son of Godzilla, and Biollante if you're being generous.

>>87588376
Shut the fuck up nigger. Fuck off with your projecting bullshit.

>>87585441
A lot of the fanbase seems to have a boner for Vs Destoroyah, Against MechaGodzilla, and Final Wars.

>>87590307
Fans complain that the mainstream sees the films as cheap schlock with cardboard cutouts for characters and shitty miniatures and yet they always tell newcomers to watch shit like VS Destoroyah and Final Wars because "they're emotional" or "haha it's so crazy turn your brain off"

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>>87590453
>Destoroyah
Most of the criticisms thrown at Shin Godzilla more accurately describe Return of Godzilla (boring politics and lifeless Godzilla), King Ghidorah (anti-American) and Destoroyah (dull characters). These films are shot so lazily and look cheap even for their time. Destoroyah's budget was almost 3x more than the budget for Guardian of the Universe and guess which one looks better.

>>87591063
>King Ghidorah (anti-American)
WUT

>>87591063
Ghidorah isn't really anti-American. It's mostly criticising the attitude Japan had at the time of being an economic powerhouse. But yeah, the 90's Godzilla films have awful lighting and camera work. It so obvious when the monster scenes are in a soundstage. The Gamera films had some scenes shot outside and they look gorgeous. It's extremely telling that Gamera got a limited theatrical run in the US by A.D.V. and the contemporary Godzilla flicks were never picked up by distributors.

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>>87591236
>>87591288
>This film was considered controversial at the time of its release, due to its fictional World War II sequence. The scene depicted American soldiers being killed by the Godzillasaurus, allowing Japanese soldiers to escape. The film's plot, involving Western villains from the future attempting to subjugate Japan, was debated. Kazuki Omori, the director of the film, defended his artistic decision on camera, arguing that the film was not in fact meant to be anti-American. It was also noted that there was considerable negative publicity regarding economic tensions between the United States and Japan at the time the film was made. Even Ishiro Honda stated in an interview in 1992 that he felt Kazuki Omori went too far in depicting the American soldiers being killed.

>>87591063
I though Ghidorah represented the Chinese

>>87591288
>It's extremely telling that Gamera got a limited theatrical run in the US by A.D.V. and the contemporary Godzilla flicks were never picked up by distributors.
Part of the reason for that was the continuity and that's why Toho avoided it with the Millennium films.

>>87591765
The other reason is that they're awful.

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Thoughts on this guy and his movie

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>>87585272
But they both were good.

>>87585272

Because the original godzilla is based off the atom bomb and the destruction of WW2, something americans know nothing about considering we never lost a war or got hit by an atomic bomb

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>>87592589
>Godzilla 2014
>Good

>>87592942
Fuck you, I unironically like boring movies and The 1989's Gunhed is one of my favorite movies. I quite liked being cockteased in G '14 and i like it more every time I watch it.

It's a very Japanese property
AKA trash

>>87593020
There's a difference between liking something and that something being good. Learn the difference.

>>87588853
no wonder that acting is forced and shit, thanks for explaining tho anon anno is confirmed hack

>>87593117
I can't think of anything bad except. Muh Godzilla wasn't in it enough." it was a solid movie.

>>87593339
Either you need a compelling human element or you need to make liberal use with of the monsters. Godzilla 2014 failed on both accounts. Any interesting human drama was out of the picture thirty minutes in and most of the monster action was contained largely in the last twenty minutes. Even then it was contained in small nuggets divided by further human stuff. In-between Cranton's death and the climax you have contrived family drama and the retarded decision making of the US military. Though cinematography is above average. I'll give it that.

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>>87590453
Final Wars is validation of the mainstream narrative that Godzilla is nothing to take seriously. Just a bunch of bad special effects, pointless action, and a stupid story without redeeming qualities. It's a film that you laugh at and something newcomers should avoid until settling down.

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HURR DURR

>>87585272
>Japan gets nuked
>creates godzilla
>america drops nukes
>creates marvel
the rest explains itself

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>>87594812
Dem tiny arms are so cute

>>87594812
He was like this for like 5 minutes. His form before that was freaky as fuck and better.

Is the Mothra trilogy from the 90s any good?

But that movie wasn't good either

>>87585272
Maybe they'll let us have an Evangelion film now

>>87585371
>campy shclock
>ShinG is the exception

Are you trying to tell me that bug eyes plastic looking motherfucker wasn't the worst, campiest godzilla ever? Granted his goofy googly eyes made the destruction scenes more evocative, but aside from 4 leg godzilla googly stomping over the city and the rave party when Godzilla nuclear beams America (because fuck you america) into submission, this film was duff and boring

>>87598741
>live action evangelion
hell god baby damn no

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>>87598804
This movie had a message and was about the government coping with the realistic terror of a constantly evolving problem such as Fukushima. It asks and answers the question 'does Japan deserve to survive if it cannot be responsible for itself'. The previous Godzilla movies after the first have pretty much been giant monster wrestling movies, where Godzilla is Japan's home team hero. Don't let Shin Godzilla's deep sea design distract you.