>Micheal B. Jordan's villain is literally JUST the "evil" version of the hero
Bravo Fiege
Why isn't the villain white?
>>87458252
Just like Man of Steel then
>>87458252
>his name is literally killmonger
>>87458291
The villain is called Man-Ape, he can't be white.
>two Vibranium clad dudes who are basically harmproof fighting each other
FUN
>>87458252
>killmonger
Capefags WILL defend this
Is killmonger an adopted brother of king wakandu or whateverthefuck his name is? how does he have a suit?
>>87458252
>continuing the trope of "marvel heroes first actual villain is an exact copy of them"
Boring, I was hoping from the trailers it would be different like with Spider-Man.
>>87458600
the main villain is in the OP moron. he clearly wasnt talking the secondary nobody that panther may fight once for 2 seconds
>>87458733
Don't be so hard on him he really had to reach to make that shitty "racist" joke
Fun!
>Darth Insanius
>Killmonger
>>87458699
Do you prefer ManApe?
>>87458700
It is already confirmed T'Chaka (T'Challa's dad) wears a Black Panther suit too (Probably a flashback, because he is already dead), so it will be Iron man 3 all over again, and everybody wears a superpower suit.
>>87458772
>he thinks Man-Ape is a reach
you didn't get dubs so you don't matter anyway
Michael Jordan? wat
>>87458490
little different
zod doesnt wear supermans outfit but in black and red
>>87458841
B stands for Balla
>>87458600
man and ape are synonyms
>>87458841
He likes to get involved in the shittiest movies possible I guess.
>>87458823
What his exact relation to the family with the monopoly on suits tho? Did gonna be Lion King?
>Antman fights Antman 2.0
>ironman fights iron monger
>ironman fights iron monger 2.0 in IM2
>doctor strange fights boring wizard 2.0
>captain America fights red skull version of himself
>hulk fights hulk 2.0
>captain America fights 2.0 version of himself.....WITH A METAL ARM
>black panther fights gold panther
The state of marvel villains
>>87458872
that's pretty ballin
>>87458878
All men are apes but not all apes are men. Incorrectamundo.
>>87458928
muh Zod
muh Doomsday
muh Joker
same shit
>>87458928
it's almost as if there's a deeper meaning at play
>>87458928
>>doctor strange fights boring wizard 2.0
To be fair the real villain was Dormammu, and the fight was a bargain instead.
>>87458928
I agree with all of this except Red Skull, who was a legitimate supervillain.
>>87458928
It's like pottery, it rhymes
>>87459000
Yeah, that's what innocent Nazi youths think about Captain America too.
>>87459038
oh no, those poor nazis
>>87458823
>It is already confirmed T'Chaka (T'Challa's dad) wears a Black Panther suit
You sure that was confirmed?
Also tchalla made a distinction from warrior to warrior mantle of the panther and the maple of king. Not saying it can't be changed but we don't know exactly yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNWFHLy2NI
relevant
>>87459062
literally what difference on the movie will it make one way or the other?
>>87458252
>Villain wears gold
>create an ultra rich, technologically advanced, diverse utopia
>blacks still find a reason to try to kill each other
what did they mean by this?
>>87458252
>not Coal Tiger
>>87459115
what is this?
>>87459186
Hugh Hefner: The Golden Years
>>87458978
Doosmday have nothing in common with Superman, nor does Joker with Batman.
>>87458252
I'm willing to bet they won't explain how or where Black Panther got his suit, and they won't explain how some guy got a gold version
>>87459409
>got
he made it
>>87459038
>agree
Is this a joke?
>>87459000
Naw red skull was just another super soldier from an abilities standpoint
>>87459393
>alien with laser eyebeams, super strength
>human with no powers except gadgets and intelligence
Yeah, nothing in common there
>>87459436
Right, and they won't explain how. They will just say that he made it.
>>87459471
One is a hulk-like monster and the other is a clown.
>>87458984
Bullshit, dormmi was a glorified cameo, the main villain was technically Kaecilius as he was Dr stranges foil
Darkdeath Evilman tier name
>>87459513
That has nothing to do with the claim those villains have nothing in common with their heroes. And it doesn't change the commonality I just listed.
That's like responding to my post saying "one is doomsday, the other is the Joker"
>>87459503
What's there to explain? It's just armor made of the material they have in Wakanda
>>87459590
How does a king have time to learn metal working? How does some random badguy convince him to make a similar suit? Does Black Panther have someone else make the suit? If so, why does that person make the bad guy a suit?
>>87459589
Batman is a guy dressed as a bat. Joker is a guy dressed as a clown.
How are they the same.
>>87459093
I asked if it was confirmed is all fucktard. What difference does it make discussing anything if that stupid mindset is the case
>>87458978
>Marvelshill: The Post
>>87458979
>it's almost as if there's a deeper meaning at play, the same deeper meaning, every time, always meaning the same thing, deeply
>>87459635
I just fucking explained it, learn to read >>87459471
It's not about them being the same, it's about them having things in common, which is the post I responded to.
>>87459623
>he thinks this thing that can be explained in one line won't be in the film
ok buddy
>>87459719
>he thinks he knows the plot well enough to decide the explanation can be made in one line
ok buddy
>>87459702
That they use gadgets? Every Batman villain use it. Even the cops.
>>87459767
Holy fuck read the discussion going on.
>anon claims batman and joker have nothing in common
>I responding pointing out what they have in common
Don't jump into random conversations if you're not paying attention to them
>>87458252
https://youtu.be/0zPEtyAsM94
ProZD's vid is spot on
>>87459803
But they have nothing in common. Your shit is all retarded.
>>87459846
>both use gadgets as their main offense
>both use expert planning and traps
>both are normal humans without superpowers
Nothing in common
BRAVO INOKI
>>87459889
Batman doesn't use a knife nor guns.
The Joker use a knife, guns and bombs.
Batman's a detective.
The Joker's a chemist.
>>87459946
Pointing out their differences doesn't change what they have in common
>>87458252
>>87458928
>Micheal B. Jordan's villain is literally JUST the "evil" version of the hero
>Zod
>Bizarro
>Cyborg Superman
>Almost every Batman rogue to some degree, but specifically Bane, Wraith and Prometheus
>Professor Zoom
>Zolomon Zoom
>The Rival
>Merlyn
>Iron Monger
>Titanium Man
>Venom
>Scorpion
>Red Skull
>Loki
Wow, its almost of if this is staple of comics. You fags will bitch about anything.
>>87459946
Batman used bombs sometime
>>87459963
They've more differences than commonalities. That's what counts.
If we're going by "human, gadgets, plans", then pretty much every Batman rogue is the same. Even the cops share that trait.
>>87459974
Loki actually is the only good villain. He's pretty different from Thor and he alone carries the shitty Thor Dark World
>>87458600
He can't be black either
>>87459974
comics are for bitches wallowing in shit they swear is culturally defensible
>it's a marvel capeshit where the hero has a suit and the bad guy is a guy with a similar suit that looks evil
>>87460057
>when the comic kikes are such bad storytellers the only good antagonist they came up with had to be stolen from the Nords
>villian's last name ends with GER
Really makes the old brain cells start rubbing together.
>>87458252
>not having a white panther played by a white guy as the villain
It would be like pottery
>>87459623
He's a fucking king, he has people to do it for him. And Kilmonger isn't by himself, he has his own faction who can do it for him.
>>87459974
the spiderman movieshad interesting and varied vilains.
the green goblin didn't have exactly the same equipment/abllities as spiderman
dr. octopus didn't have exactly the same equipment/abllities as spiderman
Sandman and Venom didn't have exactly the same equipment/abllities as spiderman (venom sort of close but symbiote has other abilities)
hardly ny of your examples are from movies anyway, you've just scoured comic books characters.
The fact tht something is in comics doesn't mean that it's a good choice for an interesting villain for a movie.
saying
>hurr who will the hero of our marvel movie fight
>durr he should fight a bad guy with the same abilities or equipment as himself
gets old so fast it's shameful.
why are you defending shitty, boring, uninteresting, uninspired decisions?
>>87459974
I didn't know Bane, Wraith and Prometheus were caped detectives
>>87458928
I liked the evil wizard but the rest are utter shité
>>87460198
You fucker it's gonna take me hours to get all my almonds deactivated again.
>>87460012
to get past obstacles maybe, not for terrorism.
>>87459186
Goldmember
>>87460230
So are they brothers? Or does Killmonger just happen to be squatting on a lode of vibranium?
>>87458978
>badly casted DC villains > perfect casted Marvel generic villains
>>87460261
They're all self-made dark mirrors of Batman, dumbass. They all parallel Batman's origin, especially Wraith and Prometheus.
>b-but they're not billionaire detectives
Yeah and Killmonger isn't the King of Wakanda either, retard.
>>87460398
He's head of his own clan, which should have their own access to vibranium. Vibranium isn't exclusive to just the royal family, else Klaw would never be able to steal it.
>>87460359
Batman is only one bad day away from becoming like The Joker, that's why his COMICS are good
>>87460474
You realize the joker said that and he's insane, right?
>>87460474
>>87460515
Not to mention that Batman only have BAD DAYS. Dude is full of tragedy. He should have become the Joker 3598 arcs ago.
>>87460461
Huh. That's a pretty unstable kingdom, politically speaking. One would have nationalized all or a clear majority of vibranium deposits to the central government to keep from being coup de etat'd and balkanized to irrelevance.
>>87460241
You're talking superficial things though. While I agree that for visuals, its great to have different powers, Spider-man is actually quite similar to Batman in that a lot of his rogues, at least the deeper ones that aren't just bankrobbers, have a lot of thematic parallels to Peter.
Doc Ock is basically what if Peter Parker didn't have an Uncle Ben to steer him in the right direction. I couldn't even tell you how many times Norman Osborn has tried to turn Peter into his heir because he sees so much of himself in Peter. One Electro story, Light The Night, speaks to Spider-man's lack of respect and occasional inferiority complex.
And lol at Venom being "sort of" close to Spider-man in abilities. Shit, Raimi's version of him was straight up evil Peter Parker by casting Topher Grace.
>>87460658
Think of it as Sheikhs of Saudi Arabia.
>>87460596
That's why there's plenty of what if comics by Miller himself in which he's very Jokerish
>>87460596
What if he already is but he has a very wry way of going about it
>>87459115
Why is that piece of chewed-up bubble gum wearing a housecoat?
>>87460422
>black panther vs. gold highlights black panther
>"t-t-they're not the same RETARD!"
holy fuck, calm down autismo
>>87460737
He's a character from "Food Fight!" you ignoramus
>>87458928
there's nothing wrong with poetry. you don't mess with perfection.
>>87460713
That's the exact wrong analogy to make. Saudi Aramco. Shouldve said the diamond baronies of west africa.
>>87458490
>Clark Kent is a Kryptonian adopted by Earth's people. He will do anything to defend them, even kill if necessary. Motivated by love, he becomes his world's protector out of choice.
>Zod is a Kryptonian invading Earth in search of a place to rebuild his race's population. He will do anything to defend his people, even kill. He is genetically engineered to follow the dogma of Kryptonian law, he was born to be his world's protector out of duty.
>The Message: this duality illustrates a philosophical question about what it means to be a hero. Is it following one's duty, or choosing to act based on will, that makes one heroic?
>Iron Man has a robot suit, but wants to use it to help people.
>Iron Monger has a robot suit but wants to use it to make money.
>Ant Man has a shrinking suit but wants to use it to help people.
>Yellow Jacket has a shrinking suit but wants to use it to make money.
>Black Panter has a special metal suit but wants to use it to help people.
>Hmm I wonder what Black Panther but with gold trim wants...
>The Message: DUDE CAPITALISM LMAO (please pay to watch the next 5 sequels)
>>87459589
>>87459471
>>87458978
>>87459889
>>87459803
>>87459702
You can split hairs until they're atoms, but Joker isn't a Batman with gold highlights. This is lazy even for Marvel.
>>87458252
Wait, what? I thought Man-Ape was the villain. Man-Ape wouldn't wear a gold version of the Black Panther outfit.
>>87458979
>almost
Exactly. Maybe they could've taken it somewhere, but by following this template without using it to explore these potentially deeper themes, it's just lazy writing.
>>87458730
Oh shit never realize this...
>Captain America vs Red Skull
>Iron Man vs Stane
>Hulk vs Abomination
>Thor vs Loki
>Ant-Man vs Yellowjacket
>Vision vs Ultron
>Dr. Strange vs Kaecilius
What's next?
>>87458490
don't forget black adam, and eventually they're gonna resort to zoom
>>87460888
>but Joker isn't a Batman with gold highlights
they've already set up red hood and he actually is that
>>87458928
Zemo in civil war and Vulture in SM:Homecoming were excellent and you can't refute that
>>87458928
>>87460057
post-Avengers 3 and/or 4:
Captain Marvel: new Hulk/new Bucky
Wasp: new War Machine/new Black Widow if Sony lets Marvel put Spidey in many movies
Black Panther: new Thor
Bucky: new Captain America
Falcon: Falcon
Ant-Man: new Iron Man/new Hawkeye if Sony lets Marvel put Spidey in many movies
Spider-Man: new Hawkeye (uses webs instead of arrows)/new Iron Man if Sony lets Marvel put him in many movies
>>87459974
Don't forget Sinestro, Carnage, Black Manta, Sabertooth, Abomination, Maestro (literally evil future Hulk there), and Azrael.
>>87459749
>he thinks he knows the plot well enough to assume simple basic things won't be in it just because he thinks he's smart
But sure, buddy. They won't explain how the villain gets a similar costume. Things will just happen.
>>87461066
the only thing they set up is Robin's death, we know jack fuck until further notice.
>>87461023
Read the thread before posting. This was already covered
>>87458823
t'chaka's mom was the black panther previously but she died before Civil War
>>87461460
More like Black Cougar h-hehe
>>87458580
but that's his actual name in the comics
>>87461560
can't be. not preposterous enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zPEtyAsM94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNWFHLy2NI
>>87460710
In the Raimi movies, Norman is evil Uncle Ben. Harry is evil Spider-Man. Ben paints walls, Norman throws pumpkin bombs at them.
>>87460869
It's called an homage. Marvel is honoring the great movies they have made previously. They aren't trying to hide this or anything. Just compare how similar the promotional video for the Stark missiles in Iron Man 1 to the promotional video for the Yellow Jacket in Ant Man.
>>87459513
>one is a clown
So is the retard running around with a bat oufit,spandex and little boys
>>87460869
>typing all this shit like im gonna read it
lol...
Why is this allowed?
>>87458252
Feige magic strikes again!
>>87465522
Fiege is cancer
>>87459393
>Doosmday have nothing in common with Superman
>nor does Joker with Batman.
lookathimandlaugh.bmp
>>87458600
Of course he can, they just chickened.
>>87466413
The Joker isn't batman 2.0 moron
What is this?
>>87459186
a white niggee
>>87459115
>>87460474
His parents were murdered in front of him. He already had a Joker-level bad day.
>b-but DC!
No rest for the oscarlet I guess
>>87459186
Darth Arseface
>>87461159
Black Manta is literally /ourguy/