I just saw IT. This new Pennywise has to be the scariest movie

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>>87439094
>The movie itself seems to capture that 80s feeling we've seen in Stranger Things and other important work. Do your part and see it in theaters.

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>>87439094
bait or shill? does it even matter anymore?

what are the top 2 most brutal kills/deaths

>>87440065
There are 3 killings in the movie. Outside of that its mostly Pennywise haunting the loser's club and his minions haunting other kids but he wants to find out why Beverly isn't afraid of him. So he ends up kidnapping her and taking her to his lair to figure if she has something special, and there are some kids there that are half eaten.

>>87439094
Shut the fuck up.

>>87439094
Was THE scene in the movie?

>>87440160
No.
The Loser's Club finds Bev catatonic in the sewer and Ben gives her a kiss, like in a fairy tale. That's the closest.
Then she wakes up and is all like LETS KILL THIS FUCKING CLOWN GUYS
and they are motivated and find him and starts laying in to Pennywise until he disappears.

>>87440160
yes

Ii DON'T WANT TO WATCH A MOVIE WHICH SAYS YOU IN THE END TO GO WATCH A SECOND ONE

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>see it in theaters

Nice try chaim.

>The movie itself seems to capture that 80s feeling we've seen in Stranger Things and other important work.
Please go away

>>87439094
>and other important work.
>Do your part and see it in theaters

I sincerely hope that you are marketing bot and not a human being.

Brought to you by New Line Cinema®.

There's already a thread you fucking faggot

>>87440262
>Then she wakes up and is all like LETS KILL THIS FUCKING CLOWN GUYS
Oh wow.

>>87441499
Its very Riot grrrl. Bev is punk and hardcore she can kick ass better than the rest of the loser's club which are kind of nerdy and feel very forced. It makes you wish they had gone with an all female cast instead to have more brave characters.

These threads feel more desperate than TFA shill threads

Is the turtle in it?

>>87441955
Only as a toy they (the boys) use as a totem to get courage from. And it shows up as a logo or drawing or things here and there.

>>87439094
>stranger things
>important work
hoo boy
I hope for your own sake you're a shill and don't actually hold opinions like that

>>87439094
>"The scariest movie monster I've seen in years"
There hasn't been a scary movie monster in years.

>>87439094
>no orgy scene
Fuck off, shill.

>>87440266
why the fuck you lyin'

>>87439094
Does it a lot better than stranger things

How faithful is to the Book?

they hurt children in this film, you gotta admit that takes guts. You ever see children getting killed ONSCREEN before? neither have I .. IT 2017 did it first.

there is no adult part in the movie right? They remain kids and it ends when they kill it the first time from what I hear.

Thats really disappointing, I guess from a film perspective it would be REALLY hard to balance those two parts but I found both to be equally interesting in the mini-series

>>87439094

Damn this movie is being shilled hard. Im excited to pirate it.

they killed a kid in the blob (1988)

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>That ending scene when grown up Mike and his gang beat up pennywise says ''Fuck you trump lookin motherfucka'' before shooting him dead

>>87443560
why the fuck you askin' retarded questions

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>>87440262
>yfw you will never King's loli fantasies accurately depicted on screen

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I just fucking wait for torrents because it needs to be bluray and I have nobody to go to the cinema with, what do

>>87439094

Whats pennywises final form like? I know they don't do the spider, at least that's what I heard. Is it suitably nebulous and eldritch? Or do they just run with "yeah its a clown and thats it"

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>>87444389

>>87444387
Just go by yourself. It's R rated so there won't be children around and you won't have to worry about being seen as creeping on them.

How was the soundtrack?

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>>87439094

Given i don't find him scary in the trailers. Is there really that much more in the movie to make him scary?

>>87443906

Nice bait.

>>87444389
This is Part 1, it ends when the kids defeat him by slinging silver at him and he just disappears

>>87444866
it's the truth you have to see it to believe it and these kids they got guts and blood going all over the place. When you see a horror film you assume the kids are untouchable or if they are going to die then its going to be offscreen or something really tame but letme reassure you that, that is certainly not the case here.

>>87443906
Feast did it, albeit ironically.
Also the Blob remake from 1988 and AvP: Requiem

>>87439094
is Make it a wonderful day, KILL THEM ALL in?
or was it just an ad

>>87445539
It's played when Bower killed his dad

>>87445539
It's in

>>87444032
movie ends with IT: Chapter 1 title card

>>87445616
>>87445628
thanks guys
whose onscreen kills do we see?

>>87441601

Try harder. Movie has no feminist narrative whatsoever. It's an ensemble cast.

>>87445409
what happens in avp requiem? i dont remember that.

Yes or no;
Are the forms that replace the werewolf and the Creature from the Black Lagoon any good?

>>87444866

Go to the cinema and watch the first 10 minutes. There really is child violence. Very refreshing in the age of snowflakes.

>>87445926
A dad and his son get facehugged while hunting. The kid is shown having chest pains before it quickly transitions away as the chest burster kills him.

>>87443906
>>87443906
The Mist
From Dusk Til Dawn
Maximum Overdrive

>>87445926
Beginning scene with the hunter and son being killed I believe. Also Logan had that black kid get stabbed.

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>>87439094
>Do your part and see it in theaters.
hahahahaha

no

but check this TRUCC

>>87439094
>Do your part
You're not talking about hurricane relief, nigger. "Do your part" doesn't apply to seeing a fucking movie.

Green Legos didn't exist at the time IT takes place. 0/10 immersion, would not watch.

>>87446086
Stop devaluing Thicc

>>87446044
>>87446053
Blob, AVP and I havn't seen the rest are pretty much instant deaths, there is nothing graphic about them and they are pretty instant so there is little suffering. In IT it is really graphic and noway near as neutered; you see blood you hear cries of pain and it is all on screen.

>>87446147
>I haven't seen the rest
Then don't reply

>>87443906
>i have never seen the kino that is "In Bruges"

Does a torrent exist?

>>87446179
don't tell what to do boy. It takes a strong mind to not act on aggression..now I want you to have a little peace of mind and know that it can get better so all you need to do is not act on your first impulse, do that? and your not going to get far in life. Think before you act boy.

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>>87439094
>capture that 80s feeling
SOMEBODY STOP THIS TREND

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>>87443906
clearly no kid has ever been killed onscreen ever before ever

What would you Anons see as your biggest fear?

>>87446487
Sinbad getting another TV show

>>87446487
Girl's

>>87446487
Nice try, Pennywise!

BAKA
baka

>>87446487
Rapey demon clown :3

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>>87446487
Dying after having spent my entire life alone

>>87439094
wait i thought it was supposed to be the 50s?

>>87446678
Go out there and meet some people. Chat up a girl at work or school. Ask some guys if they want to hang out and watch sports whilst having some beers. Do some volunteer work.

>>87439094
is he spookier than the nun from the Conjuring 2? Because i find it hard to believe that a fucking clown can beat that.

>>87446724
It's the eighties now so the sequel can be set in a more modern setting

>>87446750
More like the None.

>>87446487
The open ocean. Or bees.

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>>87439094
>go on /tv/ to talk about movies and TV
>BLACKED posters
>pedophiles
>literal paid marketers shilling the new IT

At least I got recommended Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger

>>87446487
probably spiders.

>>87446737
you just don't get it do you? you people have never got it, I don't blame you. People like me...were different, there's ..something missing in us something that stops us connecting with people and we have been like this our entire life's.

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>>87446487
probably a crack in the ceiling of a dark room suddenly spawning thousand of black spiders starting to cover all the walls
missed opportunity that, could have used something like that in the movie and it would have certainly become legendary imho
or
getting my dick cut off

>tfw you will never experience young love with a qt redhead

Destined to be a Ben :(

Is the gangbang in it?

>>87440133
Well do Pennywise rape Bev finally?

>>87446873
very dramatic, is this from a movie? i like the ellipses.

if not, seek help.

>>87446487
Worms and caterpillars

>>87447165
worms? really?

>>87447106
help? your advice shows ignorance and yet arrogance all the same. There is no help just pure damnation from cradle to coffin. I tried, I suffered and it kept happening but I kept on hoping because people like you preached the message that it would get better and that I just didn't have right technique or mindset; don't you understand? don't you get it? am I getting through to you thick skull yet? people like me...were just not fully human yet you keep treating us like we should follow the same rules you follow. Try and have a bit of empathy next time you open your mouth with those empty words..

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>>87447306
this is from the same script i take it

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>>87440160
They changed it. Bev is knocked out and the loser club all stand around her and jerk off on her . Their life force brings her back to life

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>>87439094
>>87440160
>>87447374

>>87447418
paedophile hunters assemble!

>>87439094
where? i cant find the second part anywhere online for free

does netflix or hulu have it

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>>87447418
>>87447462

>>87447359
“Ask a sage, he will explain.
Ask a fool, he will complain.”

I really want Penny to do some unspeakably lewd stuff to me.

>>87445409
We never see The kid die, we only see him get burned

>>87447851
And it's not even gay since he's technically a chick.

>>87447970
yuck

>>87446487
A spooky nun.

>>87447970
What? How can a primordial being from beyond the borders of our universe even have a biological sex?..

>>87448430

Someone should ask. . .

>>87448430
Because it does.

>>87447970
IT has no gender, dumbass. It's an eldritch horro from the cosmos. It's true form is basically a ball of light. Stop humanizing everything.

>>87448548
They say so in the book, you silly sausage.
There's that whole thing with the eggs, too.

>>87448670
No they don't. I've read the book. IT is not a man or a woman. Sure one of the HUMANS said 'my god its female', but what can we gain from human insight into seeing something their own mind conjures up? It absolutely isn't a girl and you're retarded.

Beep beep, Richie.

>>87448729
It is a hot oppai loli and you are stupid.

>>87446086
Damn, She got Trucc'd

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>>87448779
Go float yourself

>>87448430
I do think this is an interesting point. It makes me wonder if it reproduced asexually or if something much like itself had sex with it.

That being said I really REALLY hope they include IT being pregnant in the 2nd movie. Yes that is my fetish I'll just say it, but it's also a bizarre concept.

>>87446487
Fruits & vegetables

>>87446487
This >>87448856
guy's porn collection

>>87448808
C U T E
U
T
E

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>>87448913
You have no idea.

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>>87447851

>>87446487
The absolute end of humanity and all our art, history, and inventions disappearing into an eternal void of nothingness.

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>>87439094

>tfw I work in a theater
>tfw during the premiere of the movie one of my coworkers entered the theater room dressed in a yellow raincoat with a red balloon
>tfw some girl started screaming like crazy

Top comfy feel

>>87449033
kek

>>87448808
MOM'S

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>>87448918
How's this for cute?

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>>87449124
>drooling
every time

>>87449090
GONNA

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>>87446487
The creepy shit you see during sleep paralysis

>>87449229
are you gonna see the movie?

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cant wait for more Bill's movies thb desu

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>>87449281

you see the masked magician during sleep paralysis?

>>87449326
This weekend with a friend most likely.

>>87449440
I need all the clown fuckers i can get to make posts later tonight about how sexy IT is.

>>87449409
HE KEEPS REVEALING MAGICIANS' SECRETS

SOMEONE NEEDS TO STOP HIM

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would you rather go see batman or lethal weapon 2?

>>87447418
Cute fucking finn

>>87449509
>that scene with Finn playing the trumpet in the back
Gold

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i really like the aesthetics, cant wait for the cinema tomorrow

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>>87447851
I mean just look at this feral motherfucker. Fucking look at him. That goddamn stare.

>>87439094
how much of a Patrick is in?

>>87439094
Just came back from the cinema. I always thought the 1990 TV was a steaming pile of shit, with the exception of Tim Curry's charisma and presence. This new IT really delivered, great horror movie.

>>87440160
HEHE le ebin gangbang scene amirite? its our little secreb isnt it? xD

>>87440160

what scene?

Finn in his underwear is probably the best scene in the movie

Did Patrick hockstetter really die by getting eaten by flying leeches? Also talk about the leper scene, that had Been hyped alot because of that 6 foot 6 tall marfarn syndrome dude playing him. Dont hold back, the book has been out for 40something years anyways

>>87449347

>>87445616
I fucking knew it. I figured it was on the TV at Bowsers house because he was saying kill THEM all. And that's kind of what henry tries to do later. What other forms did IT take in the movie? I heard he doesn't turn into any monsters, just dead kids... Surely that can't be right

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>>87449015
I mean, that or moths.

>>87447267
I know. It doesn't make sense to me either, but whenever I see one I have a kneejerk reaction to run away

>>87449281
>you got a nice little ass nigga

>>87446487
Other than the standard things most people fear like cancer or losing someone close...
There is a strong fear of maggots, because of a quite traumatizing childhood event

>>87449281
I've had a dream where I couldn't move. I was in my room and the teddy bear in my closet turned its head towards me. I couldn't scream for help or move from my bed.

>>87453132
That sucks dude. I actually think they're pretty hot. But I've only seen them mostly in porn where women are stuffing them in their vag. You should try it. Might make you hate them less

>>87439094
I can't wait till this movie is out and /tv/ goes into hibernation until Star Wars because no one here watches Oscar bait movies.

>>87452549

w-wew

could u see it?

>>87449509
goddamn, that Bev has a great rack

I just came back from the cinema.
It was very good, I loved it. It had a nice balance between heartwarming moments and horror.
Favorite scene is the garage one.

>>87452878
He turns into some 'monsters' but many of the kids fears are guilt, family etc... not monsters

>>87439094
>captures that 80's feeling
So says a 90's kid.

>>87452878
He turns into a scary painting with a deformed face.

>>87449509
Lol no girl was allowed to wear that in 1989
>retro FAIL

>>87449281
They're usually trying to break in my house while i can't move which is worse because you don't know if it's truly real or not.

>>87449509

was there a nigger in the book?

>>87453265
what's IT?

Thought it was pretty good. The scene with Georgie was brutal, and I kind of wish the movie would be as shocking as that the whole time. From there on it's mostly Goonies with some horror elements, still pretty fun though.

>>87454089
pls no bully Mike, he was wonderful and earned his place in the gang. No gibsmedat.

>>87454089
are you retarded?

>>87454089
Uh, yes - like one of the main protagonists?

>>87454176
>>87454183

>thinking ive read any of steven kings books when i could just watch the movies

>>87454154
I agree, but whenever Pennywise appeared it was scary as fuck, no need for jumpscares either.
I almost shat myself at the garage scene and when the boy broke his arm and the fucking thing crawled out of the fridge.

>>87452878
A larper and a painting ghost. In the final fight he kind of have some kind of mantis hands

>>87443906
A Serbian Film has a child get raped, though. AND by his dad.

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>>87449281
>tfw i see (clown) puppets crawl on my bed during s.p.

>>87454221
No shit. Fucking Kingsnobs are the cringiest. Speaking of the token nigger in the book did they show him getting chased by a thunderbird and if so did they fuck the bird up wirh horrible cg? That was the scariest part of the book for me. I was let down when they didn't show the bird in the original miniserires.

>Lets remake IT but set it in the 80s because that's when I was a kid and I refuse to grow up
>Lets ripoff Stranger Things, they did such a pretty good job
>Lets just switch some minor things so it will seem new and innovative and get good reviews
Movie is nothing more than a decent date flick

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>>87454594
IT came first, and Stranger Things ripped off it

>>87454856
the original IT was not set in the 80s

>>87439094

Will wait for torrent...

>>87454089

Yes, he was the one who stayed in Derry as an adult

>>87454937
Doesn't matter

>>87454937
Half of it was.

>>87453631
It's 1989 not 1949

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KISS ME FAT BOY!

>>87443906
i know it was an accident, but i at least expected them to not use the footage.. christ..

>>87446487
Spiders. Dirty diapers.

>>87449814
bully on the left is /fa/

>>87443906
Assault on Precinct 76

BEV IS MOTHERFUCKING TOP TIER CUTIE!!

>>87439094
Seeing it very soon with a friend. Am so freakin hyped! Been waiting while for this

>>87446487
Probably a dog.

>>87447374
>that pic


hhhhhhhnnnnnnnngggggggg

>>87439094
Are there any cheap scares? Did they make Pennywise a good movie monster? Is it predictable (assuming you haven't read the book)?

>>87449814
The whole 80s ambientation looks really well done desu

>>87449229
DO YOU WANT HIM TO PUT HIS PEEPEE IN UR LIL PONY POOPOOPOODIE???? XDD

>>87449814
>these guys are the perfect 80's douchfaggots

These are the guys are LITERALLY the 40/50-something burnout losers that hang out in /pol/ now and places like /r/the_donald. This is who they were in the 80's

>>87456308
There are no cheap scares. Pennywise is really hidden throughout and you keep wondering when he will pop up. Much of the fright is wondering if Pennywise will appear. Suddenly he is possessing a projector and you nearly piss yourself. That's the kind of creepy we've never really seen in a horror movie before. It reminds me of Annabelle or Stranger Things, really deep works.

>>87444829
Yes.

>>87445801
Georgie and Bower's dad

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Hey

>>87455192
Girls that age in 89 didn't dress like that fool. I was there. Tanktops just started getting banned in schools in the early 90's. Girls in 89 wore baggier clothes. Watch some debbie gibson and Tiffany music videos on YouTube if you don't believe me. She's dressed more like 2002 slutty jailbait trailer trash.

>>87457271
More plz

>>87446487
zombie aiden gillen

>>87454154
yeah agree that was its one weakness they should of had the jewboys face get bitten straight off and also showed the bully kid in the sewer getting torn to pieces

>>87446147
Does it even come close to anything in this film?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3aEND9NS5w

>>87457271
Kinda miss the freak yellow eyes from the 90s version. Yellow eyes are the worst. Glad they did his mouth right with the razor blade teeth thing going on

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>>87446487
I fucking hate centipedes.

>>87446487
Melting. Or losing a limb.
Both scary to me.

>>87446487
Memes

>>87446873
You're missing confidence.

Which scenes spooked you the most?

Any scene with the painting lady and the projector scene scared me the most.

>>87458855
The headless child.

>>87455109
that's the only thing that could make THAT scene worse

>>87446487
Drug induced existential dread

>>87458855
Painting lady looked fake as fuck thoigh

The scene where Ben sees the kids hid in the book was spoop tho

>>87454089
t. Henry Bowers

>>87454569
I've never seen so much redditspeak in one post

>>87456903
How the fuck you gonna get scared by Pennywise possessing a proector when it's is shown in the trailers, you sound like a pussy so opinion disregarded.

>>87449509
I thought there wasn't a PG 13 ratings back than?

>>87454594
It's not a remake it's based off a book. And in order to make part 2 set in modern day part 1 logically will be in the 80s.

>>87461873
started in the mid 80's

>>87461927
Or you could set it in the time periods in the book, stop defending this trash redditor

Just got back from seeing it too. It was honestly pretty good. Didn't rely on jump scares as much as the trailers made it seem which was nice. Only real complaint is that even though it had a runtime of 2 hours it still felt like they glossed over some stuff. At the same time, some of the scenes were really well done, like the part with Henry's dad shooting at him. The new Pennywise was definitely creepy, but I wish he kept some of the goofiness of Tim Curry Pennywise.

>>87461422
It gave me some uncanny valley vibes.

>>87444389
It shifts forms based on what kid attacks it
>>87444921
There's no silver in this, ritual of chud isn't mentioned but there is a part where it is hurt by an empty cattle gun because bill thinks it's loaded

can someone describe the georgie scene?

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>>87462449
nose=geogie's arm
hamster=pennywise

>>87462449
He reaches in to get the boat, it bites of his arm, he's laying there in the rain bleeding and crying then gets dragged into the sewer drain. It was pretty good

>>87458182
He does have yellow eyes in this one

the Georgie scene is ballsy but in real life wouldn't he die right away or pass out?

>>87462677
Adrenaline might keep you going

Post webms you fucks

>>87446487
Myself or my unborn female twin

>>87440065
there's one part where Pennywise cyberbullies a kid to death on facebook

>>87445954
There are none. The movie takes a decidedly more abstract approach

now that it's been out for a few hours and we've all seen it can we agree it was a shitty reboot

Fucking kino

>>87462449
Georgie reaches down the sewer to grab the boat, it shows a side view with Georgie's arm going in and Pennywise's teeth start extending and he bites the arm off and there's some blood.

Georgie falls back crying and he tries to back up to get away, but an eagle eye view shot shows Pennywise's am reaching out from the sewer opening and grabbing and dragging Georgie down.

There's a bunch of B-roll footage of Bev with long hair. Do Henry and Co. cut it off or something?

>>87462912
Interesting,
In the book I think it just leaves him for dead but in the movie it eats the whole thing I'm assuming

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>>87446487

>>87462912

soft blood or gory blood ?

>>87463016
Yeah, he gets dragged down the sewer and they never find the body.

>>87463023
Pretty soft

>>87463081
What do you mean soft? They show his bloody stump multiple times during the movie

>>87462965
Bev starts the movie off with long hair, but she cuts it off.

>>87439094
>stephen king
if you have any self respect or standards you avoid this name like the plague

literally not a single good book or movie adaptation or anything at all coming from that guy

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>>87449814
>nobody in this thread catching the subtle easter egg

>>87463120
>literally not a single good book or movie adaptation or anything at all coming from that guy
One literally just came out

>>87463103
Well, I mean like there's not a crazy amount of blood going everywhere, and they don't show any tendons or arteries or any gory stuff like that. It's just a stump with a little bit of blood at the end.

>>87439094
How does it end, does it end with the kids or them as adults.
How does it do with the whole adult/flashback stuff?

>>87446044
>The Mist
what a heep of shit. opinion discarded.

>>87459054
This. The effects were really good in that instance

>>87439094
>daddy rapes her
>turns into dyke

Is this how tumblr was formed?

>>87458121
>they should of had the jewboys face get bitten straight off
You have no idea what this story's about do you

>>87463195

Ends with them as kids making the vow to return to Derry if It ever comes back. The director said in an interview that Part 2 would focus on them as adults but would also have flashbacks to scenes of them as children they couldn't fit in the first one.

>>87463152
I literally can recite the novel completely from memory alone and I can't see anything there

>>87448808
>to intelligent too not wear makeup

I just got out of It (ha-ha, puns, whatever). Fucking loved it. Call me a shill, call me a faggot, whatever - it could now be my favorite horror film.

The reason being is that it is that the horror is not the focus of the film. The focus is the characters and relationships. This film was basically "Stand by Me" (another King classic) + the good elements of "Nightmare on Elm Street," with some Spielberg fun and heartwarming stuff (seriously) and unsettling cosmic horror of Lovecraft.

I fucking loved it.

It's very creepy and some parts downright scary, but no, it's not terrifying or horrific. But it's artfully done, creeping and frightening, but overall, it's a great movie about growing up, facing fears, and loss of innocence (a frequent theme of King). Fucking miles ahead of the miniseries, too.

This might rub some the wrong way, but it had a surprisingly Christian theme to it, too? No overt or purposeful, but definitely identifiable. Willing to explain, but was quite surprising

>>87463152
Please enlighten me. Is it that Billy is wearing green like a turtle?

>>87463195
It ends with the kids doing the blood oath promising that they'll come back to finish Pennywise off if it ever comes back.

They don't show the adult portions at all during the movie. The closing title is It: Chapter One, so I'm guessing the sequel will deal with the adult portion of the story.

>>87463327

It's not from the novel, which I've read several times too for the record.

Hint: Look at the clothing one of them is wearing.

>>87463248
The way it walked was really freaky.

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>>87446543

>>87447055
no

>>87463369
I would like to hear you explain. I'm not challenging you, I am just legitimately curious what you mean.

Enjoyed the movie as well. I definitely got the >The reason being is that it is that the horror is not the focus of the film. The focus is the characters and relationships. This film was basically "Stand by Me" (another King classic) + the good elements of "Nightmare on Elm Street," with some Spielberg fun and heartwarming stuff (seriously) and unsettling cosmic horror of Lovecraft. as well

>ancient evil gets the shit beat out of him by a bunch of kids

How embarrassing. It was still a pretty good scene though.

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I want to believe it's good

but my I just broke up with my best friend after a fight on tuesday and I don't want to go alone

>>87463424
Mate just say it. Is it that you can see that guy's nipples?

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>those shots of him peering around corners
>Georgie actually getting his arm ripped off

Bill Skarsgard absolutely dominated as Pennywise and there was not a single scene where he didn't terrify me.

>>87463424
nope, failed at it, for a moment I tought that one of the background kids was wearing one of Ted (Bill & Ted) clothing but I don0t think that's what you're thinking

>>87439094
Which kiss was more important?
Ben's or Bill's?

best kill?

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based froggo

>>87463537
In my heart? Ben's. He deserves the slut.

>>87463571
Georgie

>>87463571
Georgie easily. Actually seeing a kid get his arm ripped off was pretty disturbing.

The movie was good. It was not GREAT, but it was fun. The Losers were great, but given the runtime, there were too many of them. With a book of this length, you either have to adapt it heavily or make it a mini-series. I think this would have been amazing if it was an eightish episode mini-series on Netflix or Amazon, but if you're going with the two movie format, there's a lot that you need to scrap.

Stanley and Mike served literally no purpose in this story and could have been omitted entirely. And while I really liked the banter between Eddie and Richie, they probably could have been merged into a single comic relief character, and built up the relationship between Bill and 'Richeddie' to keep some of the sharp dialogue (in which case you'd have to lose the stuttering problem, but that only really plays if you're using the adult-child temporal jumps from the book as a framing device, wherein you show the stuttering coming back years later when the monster re-emerges). Use the extra time freed up to explore the love triangle between Bev/Ben/Bill, or omit Ben altogether and make Bev the new kid, making the love triangle between Bill and Richie. Bev and Bill need to be the primary focus, and their relationship should grow through the journey, but you need time to explore it. In the movie we got, Bev and Ben are set up to be together, then we get a triangle, but ultimately it goes nowhere. I think removing Ben altogether might be the strongest choice, and then have the romantic conflict be the reason for the schism between Bill and Richie, as opposed to having Richie just inexplicably blow up for no good reason at the end of the second act.

The other thing to explore is the relationship between the kids and their parents. It is a major part of demonstrating who these characters are, but the adults in the film feel like cartoon characters who show up for a second to do something awful and then fuck off.

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>>87461571

>>87463571

Georgie. I thought it was just going to cut to black after Pennywise bit his arm but they actually show it getting ripped off and then him crying and trying to crawl away before being dragged into the sewer. Shit was brutal.

>>87458855
I actually thought the painting thing was pretty scare. I mean, yeah, the special effects weren't so great, but it really fed into the fears we had as kids. We all had that one strange object or face that scared the crap out of us as kids, and to see Pennywise feed into that is just... Fuck.

I hope they cast a jacked actor for Ben in the sequel, that's how he's supposed to look.

aside from Georgie who dies?

>>87463714
Adult Ben is like an alpha right?

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>that scene with Beverly in the drug store
>that ass

>>87463470
Sure.

So, in Christianity, the Enemy (Satan) is said to prowl around, seeking out those to destroy. "Steal, Kill and Destroy" is what the bible says - steal one's sense of peace, kill their earthly bodies, and destroy all hope they might have. The Enemy feeds on people's fears - it know exactly what will terrify you, and trip you up. It will seek out groups of people (believers and non-believers alike) and try to divide and conquer. If he can weaken the church, he can render it ineffective. This is "It" - Satan himself. Not literally, but they're one in the same. A cosmic, unearthly being who feeds off fear.

The remedy in Christianity is twofold, according to scripture. The love of Christ (obviously) and the fellowship of the church. In "It" the kids are singled out and It exploits their fears and insecurities to terrorize them. Bev, being raped and abused by her father, seeks affections and feels horribly unloved and unwomanly (we see her buying hygiene products, confused and nervous). It appears are a torrent of blood and her rapist father. Eddie is a germaphobe, who feels unclean and is terrified of sickness and, by extension, death. It appears as a leper - disease-ridden, and reeking of death. And, of course, Bill feels such pain in loss of Georgie... and so It appears as the one thing to remind him of the worst pain he'll ever know.

Continued.

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>>87463511
>the shot of him dancing
>I was actually surprised how non-cringy the scene in Bill's basement was. It was a legit good scene. Not sure if I felt the same way about the garage bit though. I would have rathered he just appear for a moment in real life and then be gone.

How did Patrick die in the movie? No leeches and his death fridge huh?

Also what was pennywise turning into in that shot at Niebolt street? They show his hand ripping through his gloves?

And was the scene with him running out of the water at Bill in his flooded basement in the actual movie? Was it just as silly looking then?

>>87463732
Patrick and Henry's Dad are the only semi-big deaths IIRC

>>87463732
Two bullies

>>87463732

Not counting the different kids that go "missing" throughout the film, just Patrick, Henry's dad, and possibly Henry.

>>87463732
>Georgie
>Lead bully's sister is implied dead
>One of the side bulllies
>The lead bully's Dad
>The lead bully
>Bev's Dad (???)

Think that's it.

>>87443906
Twin Peaks season 3. A kid gets fucking run over and blown into pieces

>>87463763
>that scream
>that sprint

That was one of the scenes I was most nervous about seeing and it paid off big league.


Also "This town used to be a Beaver trap." "STILL IS, HIGH FIVE!"

>>87444829
Theres one or two parts that makes Pennywise scary

>>87463369
>The focus is the characters and relationships

This is the strongest stuff in the movie, but A LOT needs to be trimmed in order for it to play. The strongest thing this movie had going for it was the Losers Club, but unfortunately, they get a bit smothered under the weight of the story. What I did like was that, unlike the previous incarnation, this movie felt like something of a gothic adventure film. It's like a spoopier goonies. The problem is , a lot of the air gets let out every time we have to stop and see another useless character show us something superfluous, like Stanley's painting or the entire bully subplot. All of it was neat on it's own, but unfortunately there was not enough runtime to justify it's inclusion. We needed more time to establish the mythology and the 'rules' of the monster, and more importantly, give the core characters more time to grow.

>>87463770

Patrick gets Pennywise'd when he goes into the sewers looking for Ben to bully him.
If you're talking about that scene in the house, I think it was just supposed to be a generic claw. There weren't any references to Pennywise's spider form in the film.
The water scene actually wasn't that bad. Probably would have been the cheesiest scare if the trailers didn't spoil it though.

>>87463470
>>87463758

In the film, they defeat IT by turning the tables, and consciously making the decision to fear no longer. This angers the Enemy, and when the kids confront him in the cistern, he appears as their fears to them, but as a group, he can only really effect one at a time. When he attacks Bev as her dad, a kid can support her because that doesn't effect him. When he appears as a germ-ridden vomit monster, he is struck by a kid who knows better. It's all about the kids being strong where their brothers are weak.

In the end, the Enemy knows it can't win... and then, HE fears the kids, because with no fear... he starves.

It can't survive when the kids make the decision to stand together, to love together, and to stomp out fear. In Christianity, the Enemy can't stand when the church unites. "Where two or more gather in [Jesus'] name, there I am also" says the bible. "The lord does not give a spirit of fear," it is also written, "but a spirit of love and power." And with that strength, the church wins. The kids win.

It was quite powerful for me, on top of being a great movie in and of itself.

The film ends with them united, and determined. There's no way It is permanently defeated. It will return. But when it does... they stand together. And It cannot win.

So yeah, I really liked it. With all the christian allegory I found in it, personally, the funny part is one of the kids going "JESUS FUCK!" at the end, hah.

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>>87444387
>not waiting for the faster yify rip

>>87463770
1: No, the children that Pennywise killed lure him to a dead end and Pennywise eats him.
2: It's a tease of Pennywise's true form. We also see that he has tentacles and his mouth and throats are covered in teeth, the deadlights come from his throat in this. But we never get to see his true form yet.
3: Nah that was actually really well done in the movie

>>87463770
1. We don't find his corpse or anything like that, but we know he's dead for sure.
2. Nothing really. He was just giving himself claws to attack the kids.
3. On it's own, it looks silly. But then you realize that "YOU'LL FLOAT TOO" Georgie has Pennywise's hand inside of him, as if Georgie were a puppet. He throws Georgie aside and chases after Bill. Bill escapes, and Pennywise just smiles at the basement stairs, disappearing into the dark. Wasn't the scariest scene, but it wasn't funny either.

>>87463770
>And was the scene with him running out of the water at Bill in his flooded basement in the actual movie? Was it just as silly looking then?

That part scared the shit out of me. The sounds my dude and fucking Pennywise's freaky as shit head wobble.

>>87444829
There's some very noticeable CGI when he opens his mouth to devour the kids, but that aside, he's incredibly intimidating and a lot of the movement involving his eyes was actually Bill Skarsgard.

So like, is Bev's dad dead? How isn't she going to jail?

>>87463919
They never explained that. He might be alive. Or at the very least, it could be implied as self-defense.

>>87463919
That's why she was going to Portland at the end dummy.

Anyone catch the Dark Tower reference? I think the orange swirl that Pennywise stands in front of at the end is a portal to a tower.

Any unintentionally funny things like the bugs bunny shower hole or the fat boy insults in the original?

So what's the deal with the painting woman? Was it just a spooky painting that Stan was creeped out by, or was there supposed to be something more to it? Most of the other fear-based illusions seemed to have a deeper connection to the character, like the fire that killed Mike's parents or Bev's molester dad.

Also, when I first saw the painting, I didn't notice it was a woman, and I thought it was The Man in Black from The Dark Tower. I guess the brief glimpse made it look like a distorted version of Matthew McConaughey.

>>87463866
The painting was probably the cheesiest scare in my theater. Everyone chuckled because of how weird she looked.

Basement scene is great though. Georgie being used as a puppet was a nice touch.

>>87463867
I think you are grasping. It might be applicable, but I wouldn't call it allegory.

>scariest monster I've seen in years

Sensationalist trash.
He was fine, he worked well in the movie. No more, no less. The opening scene in the gutter is a little off at first if you've seen the original tv movie enough times, but they give it long enough to breathe and establish this new one.

I was concerned he wouldn't be enough of a dick, but he gets those scenes toward the middle and end.

>>87463984
For me some of Pennywise's movements were that. But nothing particularly stands out as too ridiculous.

>>87463984
Unintentionally funny? Ehhh most of the humor was intentional. Richie was fucking hilarious in this one.

>>87463969

The orange swirl IS Pennywise.

It's the Deadlights AKA IT's true form.

>>87463919

At the end she said she was moving in with her aunt. I believe we're led to assume she at least told her aunt what happened or about the abuse. I don't think her dad is dead but it's doubtful her dad would go to the police or anything because that would basically be opening the door to an investigation.

>>87464018
I think you can only call it grasping when you're not sure the creators intended a message or not - in this case, I know they didn't. Wasn't on their radar. But certainly allegorical, to me. That's what I took from it. Would encourage other like-minded people to see it for those elements.

>>87446487
A floating fingernail scratching a chalkboard

>>87464032
I don't think he was the scariest but Bill Skarsgard acted really well as Pennywise. My favorite scene of his was when he was fucking with Eddie before the Losers saved him.

>>87464018
She looked too weird. I think that's a Muschietti thing. Mama had the same problem. It would have been creepier if she looked just slightly off instead of some overtly scary monster woman. Like, why the fuck would someone have that painting in their office?

This movie made me depressed.
I will never be a kid again.
I never have had a summer or teen romance.
And all these kids who will grow up, probably forget about that crazy summer and only remember it as just an overactive imagination once their older and all have gone seperate ways.
And of course the fact that this movie is in fucking chapters, this current one was only "chapter one".

>>87464003
The director of this did Mama, and he's like a protege of Giuellermo (?) del Toro, meaning he's all about wacky horror designs with wonky eyes and elongated limbs and what not.

That chick was just a replacement for whatever Stan saw in the books, I can't fucking remember, and the Leper had similar design elements.

It's just another thing Pennywise turns into to scare kids.

>>87464068
Oh FUCK you're right! In the book Ben(?) describes his ultimate true form as a bunch of writhing orange lights. HOLY SHIT THEY DID IT!

>>87449509
>batman or lethal weapon 2

I saw both when I was 11 at the theater in 89!!!FACT!!!

The original IT was fucking hilarious because Tim Curry is just too fucking funny to take seriously

I take it that this one doesn't have that same issue

>>87464003
I think it was just a creepy picture. One of those irrational fears we all have as a kid. My dad used to have a display case of a bunch of models that he painted as a kid right by our computer growing up. Whenever I got on as a 7 year old I had a zombie, a wolfman, and dracula right at eye level.
Or when I had some kids over for a sleep over for my 10th birthday. We were in the living room next to our backyard windows and a big glass door. One of the kids mentioned imagining something outside and we all looked at each other before migrating to my bedroom.
It's just something that you know isn't supposed to be scary, but then you find yourself face to face with it.

>>87464123
Oh my god that's a lame ass point of view to have. Being a kid sucks adulthood is much better.

>>87464125
Fun fact: The leper is played by an actual human. Javier Botet. He played Mama in Mama and The Pale Man in Pan's Labrynth

>>87464088
Yes, that scene was probably my favorite of his, too.
That was the one won me over, otherwise I would've probably been more tepid, but not negative.

>>87446487
A megaphone screaming out all the dumb, stupid or mean things I've ever done out to the world.
I'd probably kill myself then and there to be honest.

>>87464123
>only remember it as just an overactive imagination once their older and all have gone seperate ways.
Dude, they fucking killed a demon. They were all there, they all saw it, the whole thing lasted months. They're not gonna gloss over that.

>>87446487
NUCLEAR WAR!!!FACT!!!

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>>87464123
Same here, man. I have a super soft spot for "kids come of age together and experience something huge in a nostalgic setting" movies. Stand By Me, Super 8, Goonies, etc.

This movie is right up there with those. Loved it. But made me a little sad.

Reminded me of my old friend groups, long gone. A little depressing, but as Stephen King himself once wrote, "Friends come in and out of our lives like busboys at a restaurant. That's just the way it is, I suppose."

King also wrote, "I never had any friends later on in life like I had when I was 12. Jesus, does ANYONE?"

Beep beep Richie

>>87464150
Nah, Bill plays Pennywise as funny, but also way more of a monster

>>87464170
Yes, I know. I looked all that up months ago, and it gave me an unrealistic expectation that they'd have a shitload more of the book's monster forms.

>>87464125
Stan's thing in the book was the standpipe filled with dead kids that he fended off by reciting birds.

I just realized that they removed Stan's birdwatching thing but I figure otherwise it's true to his character. Making him scared of a painting in his dad's office seems like something brief to set up that works pretty okay.

>>87464165
Being a child is living in ignorant bliss.
Adulthood is depression and reality.
Reality sucks when you're not a normie.

>>87464078
Without getting too into semantics, to me allegory requires intent of the creator. Applicability does not.

I agree with everything you said about the actual kids supporting each other through their fears though.

>>87464238
Maybe you're right. Either/or.

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Do you think they'll use the Spider from in the sequel?

>>87464150
I thought he was funny. He had mannerisms that reminded me of Curry's Pennywise.

>>87464257
NO
That shit is just stupid and cheesy, it only works in book form.

>>87464221

Right, right, the bird watching thing.
I'm a little disappointed they didn't stick closer to the book's more elaborate scares, considering the adult portion has a lot less of those.

>>87464218
We got: The Jewish painting, The dead kids, the TV cast, the headless kid, The Leper, The Clown (of course), The Black Spot people, and technically Bev's dad.

>>87463215

It's not an opinion you piece of shit retard.

>>87464257
They hinted at him being way more intriquite. Technically we see his REAL form in the movie (writhing orange lights) because even the drider isn't his real form.
We will see something cool in the second movie, they even hinted that he'll have tentacles!

>>87464210
King is an expert at childhood nostalgia. I read Joyland last year and get rid of the stupid serial killer bullshit and you've got a great novel.

I really wish Spielberg had made this instead of that fucking shit Ready Player One. Poltergeist might have been credited to Tobe Hooper but the Berg's fingerprints are all over that and it's a seminal 80's Horror movie!!!FACT!!!

How jumpscare heavy is it?

>>87464362
Lotta jumpscares bro

>>87464225
>Being a child is living in ignorant bliss.Adulthood is depression and reality.Reality sucks when you're not a normie.

100% CORRECT!!!FACT!!!

>>87464356
you are an annoying asshole faggot that should be permabanned!!!FACT!!!

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>>87463867
I agree. I just got back and it aligns up.

>>87464356
I don't know - I don't think I would have changed a thing about the movie. In it's current form, it hit all the right notes, and those were pretty high up.

>>87464362
Honestly, almost none. Anything that could be considered "jump scare" never comes out of nowhere. The horror comes from creepiness and terror. Never quiet walking them BOO! It's always "on no, oh no, oh what, oh what, oh shit oh shit OH SHIT OH SHIT" if that makes sense.

>>87463866
>There weren't any references to Pennywise's spider form in the film.

During The end fight Pennywise limbs literally turn into a spider when attacking Mike.

>all you have to do is attack him in a group
>it's so easy that a bunch of kids can do it

>>87464041
Eddie was hilarious too. This cast was very strong.

>>87464432
>"on no, oh no, oh what, oh what, oh shit oh shit OH SHIT OH SHIT" if that makes sense.
That makes perfect sense. It isn't a thing you're not expecting, it all builds up. Honestly, during the headless child scene, when pennywise says "Egg" and Ben turns around to see the clown chasing after him? that part had me shitting my fucking self and it didn't need no jumpscares.

>>87464511
Not quite. You just have to not be afraid of him. When they're together, they're less afraid because they're working together to take him down.

This is why he constantly tries to separate the kids and pick them off one by one, because when they're alone, they are the most afraid and vulnerable.

>>87464511
It's not just that they're in a group. It because they all, AS a group, decided to fear no longer. I thought that was pretty obvious.

>>87464522
A fantastic cast. I mean, when's the last time you saw this many excellent CHILD actors in the same film?

Why does IT even stay in Derry?

There is a whole lot of places to eat children at

>>87464511
Yes, it's dumbass magic that kills him, just like how he uses dumbass magic to kill other people

In the book it's alluded to that he turns into the shark from Jaws to kill a kid.

>>87464566
plot

>>87464445

For some reason I forgot about that. You right.

>>87443906
Walking dead and breaking bad did it 4years ago motherfucker. When something as normie as walking dead has done something a long with dozens of other actually good film and television shows you have no excuse to claim IT was the first to do something.
The only thing IT did first was use the Heath ledgers joker in a half way decent horror film.