/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

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happyending fags btfo

>>87397453
Season 4 when bros? Literally crying rn and feeling empty.

>>87397453

There are no correct answers to anything.
There is only an infinite number of interpretations.
This is what Lynch wants and this is what keeps his work alive.

Call it all mysterious bullshit, call it art, call it whatever you want. It works.

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HERE'S TO ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION

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is this supposed to be laura palmer? (from ronette's dream)

>>87397453
sheryl ree LOL

Theoryfags are the worst.

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friendly reminder that doppelcoop did nothing wrong and Cooper was the real fuck-up the entire time

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>>87397453
a hundred thousand theories and all of them are "beautiful" - Lynch

>>87397499
What am I supposed to see?

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13870391
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Keep the poll alive

>>87397525
haha

>>87397499
oh shit is that a towel

>>87397499
if you zoom in, it's clearly the judy monkey.

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>>87397453
Chairyl Lee lol

>>87397565
Or: theatre and audience

Is there a Virgin Frost vs Chad Lynch?

what? no pasta? what kind of sci-fi show is this?

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>Thanks for coming to my pajama party, anon :3

>>87397630
Yes.

So Cooper saved Laura from being killed by Leland/BOB, meaning she was never wrapped in plastic and discovered by Pete, but she was then whisked away by Judy or whatever. Does this mean she's still missing in the new timeline? Wouldn't the town go through a similar period of distress and have an investigation into her disappearance anyway?

>>87397499
jesus christ it's a towel

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was laura actually a tulpa made of page?

>>87397499
>drape runners
nadine is jumping man/judy confirmed

>>87397549
What is the alternative? I mean, I think Lynch wants us to have theories. The fact that there are so many theories around right now is intentional on his part.

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>>87397499
shiieeeet

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>>87397641
>ywn spend the day curled up in bed with Maddy, some coffee, and a good book

Thanks for ruining my day anon

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WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE MONKEY

>>87397639
In the context of FWWM the mask is used to tell Laura that there's a man (BOB) behind a mask (Leland).
This could tie in with Sarah, actually. There's some creepy entity behind her mask. In fact, we see her taking off her mask LITERALLY and revealing what seems to be Judy (malevolent feminine spirit, creepy smile, black spiritual finger, etc).

>>87397688
Looks like an attractive version of Liza Minnelli.

so in conclusion briggs is judy, sarah is jumping man, ed's refelction is an example of alternate realities, it's the year 2003, and coop never gets his mind back. thanks for the upvotes, everyone!

>>87397778
Uh, I can see it.

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>>87397208
Part 17 is greatly enhanced with the context of 18. But 17 is a much worse episode, and the rushed climax at the sheriffs station can't be excused, they did such meticulous build up for this to be the big finish only to then rush to get it over with when we finally get there, it could have been so much better.

18 is a masterpiece in mood and feeling, it has the best qualities of Lynch films, where you feel incredibly emotional watching it, without necessarily understanding why, it's just a gut feeling. Nothing is even that overt in the final hour, there's no hamfisted use of musical cues to bring out emotion, the sound design and ambient stuff is incredible but still minimal and subtle.

Think about that final scene and how almost no conventional means are taken to make it appear more tense, just the content speaking for itself. It's fucking masterful.

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Sheryl Lee is wonderful in every way imaginable and then some!

>>87397630
>"okay david, now I know this series has kinda gone off the rails so we only have two hours left to resolve everything, but I think I've worked out a way we can wrap this all up nicely. Ed and Norma finally get engaged, Doppleganger cooper gets killed according to Brigg's plan, and then they all reunite for coffee and cherry pie at the weddi–"
>"THAT SOUNDS ALL VERY NICE AND TIDY, BUT I REFUSE TO GIVE THE FANS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. WHAT ABOUT LAURA? HOW CAN WE MAKE IT ABOUT LAURA ALL OVER AGAIN?"
>"o-okay, well what if it turned out there was a way cooper could go back in time and stop laura from being kil–"
>"MARK, THE OTHER DAY MY SON SHOWED ME THESE JAPANESE CARTOONS CALLED THE ANIME, AND WHILE I WAS DOZING IN FRONT OF THE TV SOMETHING CAME TO ME IN A DREAM, AN IDEA THAT WE NEED ONE MORE EPISODE WHICH UNDERMINES EVERYTHING YOU'VE ALREADY WRITTEN FOR THE FINALE"
>"but if Cooper saves laura in the past then what else can we do with the show if the mystery never happened? wh-what about my upcoming novel?"
>"ITS ALRIGHT MARK, MY IDEA TAKES PLACE IN A DREAM TOO, IT WON'T MAKE A DARN BIT OF DIFFERENCE TO YOUR SHITTY FAN FICTION"

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>>87397688
ahahahaahhaa Sheryl what are you doing wrapped up in that plastic silly lol haha come on out of there hahaha

>>87397803
she aged terribly

>>87397781
>briggs is judy
this is retarded

Jao Dey is ancient Sumerian for "to Lynch normies, utterly"

>>87397799
That shot of the house might be the scariest thing I've seen all season. With all its painful history and significance throughout the original run and FWWM, seeing it from such a sour and distressing perspective gave me the chills.

so was the whisper in the credits actually audible? I can't hear it because I'm at work

>>87397659

Yeah, but Cooper wouldn't get in the investigation, and the timeloop would get unraveled.

Somebody made a pic of this.

>>87397630

here >>87394258

>Ultimate evil is literally Jew Day
Is Lynch an antisemitic person?

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What was Ray thinking here?

>>87397781
>ed's refelction is an example of alternate realities
huh? What the fuck did I miss here?

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>>87397453
>realizing there is no explanation for any aspect of this shit whatsoever

>realizing lynch and frost are hacks

I guess this is growing up

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>>87397954
ODUo geh jJEosn

jiāo dài - to hand over, to explain

the last thing david lynch wants to do in twin peaks is explain, hence the show's greatest evil being called jiāo dài (judy).

>>87397954
"I thought her name was Sheryl Lee Ralph"

>>87397799
It's basically episodes 25 and 26 of evangelion vs the end of evangelion. Although evangelion had more pleb filters than twin peaks, so end of eva is basically the unanimously preferred ending

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Reminder that Sarah is not Judy.

The Jumping Man is part of Sarah, the reason every scene with him is tumultuous and tortured is because he's the lodge spirit that is the physical embodiment of the pain and sorrow. He attaches himself on others and is in constant turmoil endlessly stuck in a loop of their horrible agony and suffering.

The passage that leads to Jeffries is the Palmer house, a twisted version of it, in it lives TJM and just like Sarah, is in constant loop of agony.

>>87397940
nope. the point of that shot is to reinforce the mystery which Frost and Lynch never wanted to unveil in the first place. the execs forced them to reveal what she said in s2, but with the s3 finale retconning the entire twin peaks universe it leaves the question of what she said entirely open-ended. quite beautiful if you think about it.

So have you all learned how a cellphone works?

>>87397982

so sick of this fucking reddit meme

>>87397758

Judy

>>87397565
why is andy outside the dream

>>87397982
Gordon definitely didn't say "dài", fuck off back to plebbit.

>>87397954
>tfw no black grandmas

It's so weird to watch hurricane coverage, to be an audience to it, and know that it's going to kill people in the next day or so and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Nothing at all. It's going to happen. They're going to die.

>>87397840
>my son showed me the anime
bitch do you think david lynch, a savvy film director doesnt know of anime by now?

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Jared, you madman!

>>87398000
Man, that shot of JM descending the stairs is fucking horrifying. It doesn't even look like he's walking, just sort of floating down

>>87398064

They sure are.

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>>87397565

>>87397954
"So, Ray accidentally texts me thinking he's making a google search.."

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what happened the day he died /tpg/?

>>87398077
>Block Richard

lel

not enough Jumping Man in the Return desu

would have been so fucking cool if Bowie was alive and they had a reveal of him in that room with Jumping Man next to him

>>87398091
Too bad Cooper doesn't know that

The Cooper from S1 and 2 is the same Cooper as the one that appears in FWWM

But the Sarah that talks with Cooper through his dreams is not the same as The one that appears in the end of FWWM (crying/laughing with Cooper)

What's up with this?

Does it strike anyone as significant that the Sarah scene in part 17 is where everything starts to go horribly wrong?

>alt universe where Bowie didn't die and could be on the show
>Lynch turns him into a fucking teapot anyway
how LYNCHED would you be?

>>87398114
I wonder how often she wakes up to 500 texts from Ray, all with variants of "black grannies"

>>87398199
It would at least be his real voice, which would be enough for me.

>>87397954
Ray and Sheryl joint interviews are the comfiest shit ever.

>>87398209
The one with her and Dana Ashbrook at the UK Festival is fucking great too

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>>87398239
this

>watch it Palmer

>"I'll see you at the curtain call"

>when a performance is over and the actors emerge out-of-character to confront the audience

really puts the joggin' in your noggin' don't it

>>87398118
Spirit rose a metre and stepped aside. Then somebody else took his place and bravely cried "I'm a black star!"

pretty sick that once big ed started to TM at the counter he finally got norma. david if you're readng this where do I send this check for $10,000?

>>87398344
i'll snap your gregory

>tfw /tv/ holds no appeal for me anymore now that twin peaks is off the air
thanks for all the memeories, /tpg/. I'll see you again in 25 years.

>>87397453

>people endlessly debating plot mechanics rather than sticking with the basics and letting the emotional currents wash over you

stop coming up with insane theories you knobs. the ending is clear. a woman is dragged back through the memory of her suffering and misery. a man who tried to play god becomes trapped and starts to lose his sense of identity and purpose. he messed up, he didn't accept that the past cannot be undone, he went too far, his sin is pride. the end is misery and bleakness. grow up.

>>87398417
Everything you just said is contradicted by the show

>>87398344
was it a metaphor for the afterlife?

So, we can all agree that The Straight Story, Eraserhead and Fire Walk with me are Lynch's best films?

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>>87398031
reddit obsessed

>>87398417
>stop coming up with insane theories
>comes up with insane theory
how is Cooper playing God when he's following the orders of a superior being (the Fireman) diligently? That's the opposite of playing god, that's just what you personally want the show to be about, no different from any theoryfag

>>87398417
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>>87398478
Yes, but if you add Mulholland Drive to the list.

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>>87398466
that oh Angelo shit makes me laugh every time

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>tfw when you fuck up on a COSMIC scale

>>87398492
It literally is a theory from that fucking site.

>>87398466
going to see FWWM tomorrow, i hope it won't be like this

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>>87398379
It is HAPPENING again

>>87398077
>I could care Less
Guess you could, you illiterate womanchild.

>>87397453
We're never going to know what the fuck happened, are we? I know that Lynch's style, but I always separated Twin Peaks from the rest of his work. The last episode was like a copy of Lost Highway.

>>87398592
*MD

>>87398509
Personally, I think it's not that good, the second part was forced, but it has one of the best scenes in Film history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAbmfVzPHFg

>>87398548
Where at? I wanted to see it last week for the 25th anniversary but I don't have a Alamo Drafthouse nearby

>>87398458

1st time watching Lynch right?

>>87398417
>a man who tried to play god
>cooper's sin is his pride
fuck off with your entry-level analysis of "tragedy", lynch's approach is never as tedious and dated as you've made it out to be, especially when it comes to creating a conclusion.

>>87397954
>oh, to be that chair!

>>87398344
All the world a stage.

>>87398478

If you add to that list his masterpiece Wild at Heart, yeah, I will be next to you all along the way.

>>87398478

if you're a pleb maybe

Mulholland, Inland, FWWM

When is Žižek going to talk about Twin Peaks?
I really liked his opinions on Lynch's movies in The Pervert's Guide To Cinema.

Diane, it's 4:23am and I'm sitting here masturbating to anime pornography.

>>87398466
eh, is this too bad, really? Sounds kinda pretentious in my opinion. Judging people for gathering and expressing what they like and whatnot. I'd be lucky if I found someone else who liked TP in a radius of 100 miles of where I live

>>87398617

TP has always been about suffering and trauma. Cooper tried to take over someone else's trauma, thus inflicting more abuse on her. He played god with someone else's life.

>>87398478
throw in the two-part finale of the return and you've got yourself a deal.

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>not listing Mulholland Dr. as one of Lynch's best works because it's his most popular movie

>>87398616
Sorry but even Lynch films have characters with motivations and visuals that are a suggestion of his themes

You are really reaching, saying Cooper is playing god. What evidence do you have for such a retarded statement?

>>87398592
>We're never going to know what the fuck happened, are we?
What didn't you understand?

>The last episode was like a copy of Lost Highway.
EVERYTHING Lynch has done since Lost Highway was a copy of Lost Highway in some way. He really wants us to understand its message.

>>87398478
>>87398646
Yeah, I don´t know how I can forget Inland Empire. Much better and deeper trip (with common topics) than Twin Peaks 3, and I fuckin love this season.

>>87398682
Cooper is just an agent of a superior force which also happened to be the creator of Laura, he has no agency in this.
The time when he really fucked up was when he did the opposite of what the Fireman told him and it resulted in him getting trapped in the lodge for 25 years

>>87398715

The fact that he goes back into the past and tries to save Laura? How is that not entirely clear?

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So how did Lynch find out about Evangelion?

>>87398698
MD is good but Lost Highway was better, sorry. It's hard to care about some degenerate lesbian hollywood bitch.

>>87398478
The Straight Story is freaking perfect, it's ironically Lynch's weirdest film. Only downside is that there is no Laura Dern.

>>87398615
i'm from europe, it's in local theatre

>>87398746
What evidence is there that it was even his intention to do so? When did he say 'i'm looking for laura'?

>>87397499
>weird little white triangle that could be basically anything
>ITS THE MOTHER AAAHH

>>87398740

That's a terrible interpretation. Just as we had all of our ideas of Cooper challenged in the season 2 finale so too are we forced to reevaluate him in this finale. He failed. He never learned to accept the dark part of his soul that resides in all of us and his boyscout naivete led him to think it was his duty to save Laura in the past, it wasn't. His actions fucked everything up.

It's like you people have never seen Vertigo

>>87398740
>he did the opposite of what the Fireman told him
what/when was that again? Been a while since i've seen the originals

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so was season 3 really all just a jojo reference?

>>87398698
I do like MD a lot for the acting and cinematography, but I'm still not a fan of the twist. I honestly think it was done a lot better here in the finale, with dreams being alternate realities and questioning what is the "real" reality, than just dreams being escapism like they were in MD.

Still a great movie though.

>>87398781

um

what

he goes back and does it. why do you need characters to vocalize their intentions? he intends to do it and that's why he goes to do it. If he didn't intend to do it then he wouldn't have done it. He makes the choice to do it.

>Main characters switched by similar characters when reality gets rewritten

Father Pucci did it again

>>87398787
He technically did save Laura though, right?

Dreams inside dreams

At the nougaty caramel centre is the black lodge

>>87398682
>TP has always been about suffering and trauma
Yes, but you're missing the purgatorial aspect of suffering, which is crucial both to laura's spiritual redemption at the end of FWWM and Cooper's time spent waiting in the lodge. "Fire walk with me" is like a modern verse of dante, specifically "Poi s'ascose nel foco che li affina" (and he hid himself in the fire that refines). to reduce the
whole series according to your oversimplified, pessimistic outlook is to deny the conclusion its deep ambiguity and ontological incompleteness.

>>87398781
Did he really need to say it out loud? He pretty much enters the diner and asks for her address to go there and find her

>>87398823
The lodge areas are not linear. Half the time characters were being ported to places and didn't even know where they were or where they are going

If it was his intention to save Laura, lets fucking see some evidence of it

>>87398864
Let me guess, you're also one of the folks who's been saying Cooper doesn't care about Laura at all as well

>>87398864

what in the hell are you talking about? he reaches out and takes her hand in the woods. He does it. How is that not clear?

His obsession and love for Laura over the whole series is clear. Even if he didn't wake up that morning and say I'm going to save Laura he still makes the choice at the moment and fucks everything up.

And then he goes to the diner afterwards. It's always been about Laura for him. He's J Stewart in Vertigo bro.

>>87398344
can't wait for Twin Peaks: The Curtain Call in 2055

another 18 hours of lynch fucking you bareback from beyond the grave.

>>87398813
In MD it wasn't really a dream, it was a fantasy. In Twin Peaks it isn't really a dream, it's a creative force over reality.

>>87398856

Lynch is one of the most pessimistic, bleak directors working in the mainstream

Maybe 2 of his movies have endings that are at all positive. This is no different.

>>87398787
>Stating what the show tells us is an interpretation
ok buddy I guess I imagined the scene where the Fireman was giving Cooper instructions regarding what will happen in episode 18 right before the real start of episode 1
>>87398792
The Fireman tells Cooper not to let Annie enter the Miss Twin Peams contest and he does anyway.
During s1 and 2 MIKE through his arm and the Fireman both send Cooper clues through dreams and visions which ultimately is what lead him to capture BOB. In S3 he is completely aware of all the fabric of reality so he speaks to them both directly instead of seeing them in dreams or visions.
He has some agency (like with the second Dougie being created for Janey-e) but overall he is just following the destiny that was planned for him by the Fireman not unlike Freddie.
If anything, by episode 18, he has become too reliant on his transdimensional masters pre-planning everything and just goes with the flow and barely questions anything that happens around him, and once he reaches a dead end and realizes he can't access the lodge by waving his hand he actually breaks down

>>87398914
More like one of the folks desperately grasping at straws, nitpicking everything because they can't bear dealing with the imminent end of these threads

>>87398961

That's because Cooper became a Lodge Spirit

>>87398914
So your response is constructing a strawman to attack? Nice

>>87398921
>His obsession and love for Laura over the whole series is clear
Citation needed

And he comes back for one episode and we have no idea what he's going to do except go to Twin Peaks. I think the mystery is more 'lol he loves laura but he failed so sad'

Mongoloid

>>87398118
Spirit rose a metre and stepped aside. Then somebody else took his place and bravely cried "I'm a fookin' kettle m8!"

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>>87398417
Aside from your read on Cooper, I agree completely and this is what I felt when I watched it for the very first time.

It's not untrue that "he tried to play god" but I'd rather interpret it as his personality being his undoing, thinking that there's some answer and solution to what Laura went through, that it can be solved when it cannot.

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>David Lynch will die in your lifetime
>Kyle Machlachlan will die in your lifetime

Dreams inside dreams

At the nougaty caramel centre is the black lodge

>>87398994
probably yeah, by the end he seems to be in the same exact situation as Phillip Jeffries in Fire Walk With Me
My point was that "Cooper is playing God" is a stupid statement when you realize that he is porpousefully trying to follow the destiny imposed on him by a higher being, that's the opposite of playing God

>>87399006
I think that anon saying he's in love with Laura is a bit more but he's definitely connected to her on an emotional level, what with communicating with her across time and space in the Lodge in each season and FWWM, getting upset when Jacques talks so plainly about her last night, and so on. There's more to the mystery but he's also connected to Laura.

>>87399064
not if you kill yourself first

Americans are retarded.

He even had to make a movie for you guys to understand the plot without metaphors.
Then he releases season 3, and you are still looking at the metaphors and little details.

The details are not important.

There is a simple story behind Twin Peaks.

After Annie Blackburn died in a hospital, Cooper went crazy/coma state. After that, nothing ever happened.
Cooper probably retired from the FBI, and he always wanted to change the past.

That's all, move on, ameritards.

>>87399028

This is well-said.

He seems to think that getting her back to her mother will be enough but it was never going to be that easy. There is no easy answer to what she went through. I do think he needs to be held accountable for his blunder though. His boyscout behaviour was once something we all found honour and goodness in and now it just seems naive and insufficient.

>>87399006
I didn't mean it as an attack but if you want to get upset over it sure

>>87398961
>The Fireman tells Cooper not to let Annie enter the Miss Twin Peams contest and he does anyway.
Damn, didn't remember that at all. Did he know it was a trap and wanted to catch Earle or something? What a fool! I really have some sort of soft spot for the guy, his break down was so sad to watch

>>87399085

when does the giant say that he has to save Laura?

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I can guarantee that this whole multi-layered dream reality thing is Frost's doing, it's straight out of Lovecraft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtjiVTSs8pc

>>87399028
starting to think the cooper superimposition is the best thing lynch has ever done.

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>>87399103
how about YOU move on and get the fuck out, ya doofus?

>The conclusion of a much beloved and interrupted soap opera from a long time ago and now it's time for everyone, actors and audience alike, to go back to real life on a planet in extreme flux and people still want to know what it all means and why

It's literally being spelled out for us

>>87399129
He made Laura himself and then sent Cooper to the Carrie Paige dimension, he never said he has to save her but how else is he supposed to use her against Judy if she's dead?

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>>87399109
Yeah I don't see how people are so in denial about that aspect of his character, it's what blinds him to the killer right in front of him and gets Maddy killed, it's what causes him to be blinded by attraction to Annie and get her taken, and in FWWM it's naivety that he tells Laura not to take the ring thinking that being possessed by BOB for the rest of her life is better for her than death.

Cooper's folly is he buys in to his own perfection, he thinks he can save everyone. There's no way to stop the cosmic forces at work, certainly not on his own.

>>87397555
ha ha epic, I hope I hear this joke again. I really do.

>>87399173
And it's from evangelion. An anon in another thread wrote this
>When Cooper's face is superimposed on the screen it is instrumentatlity for Twin Peaks. Cooper's subconscious, his inner self, has become aware of reality as a dream. The next scenes are all scenes of Cooper's subconscious manifesting itself to his conscious mind. Basically Cooper is entering Twin Peak's version of instrumentality

>>87398947
Madonna was once asked why so many of her songs dealt with bleak topics. Her response was that when she was happy she didn't want to take time out of it to write it down.

>>87399128
I think Cooper was just in love and dumb.
As soon as Annie says that she wants to get in the beauty pageant, the Giant appears on stage and starts mouthing "no" a bunch of times while doing exaggerated hand gestures, you probably remember that scene, you just couldn't remember the context because those episodes before the finale tend to blur together

So is Dougie returning home the only and true good finale?

>>87399224
>And it's from evangelion
What. I love evangelion to death and I love how there seems to be someone here bringing it to the discussion a thousand times per day but I don't remember superimpositions hapenning like that?

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>>87399173

>>87399258
That is the good finale, but it never happened. It's all a dream.

>>87399064
>a hack and a c-list actor

good fucking riddance.

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Daily reminder that if there is no S4 in like 2-3 years tops, there will never be one.

Lynch isn't young and he could easily die tomorrow. MacLachlan is 50 or something, but younger men died without warning.
Hell, Kubrick died (((suddenly))).

Think about that for a second.

Why did Bad Cooper need to go through the lodge to get back to Twin Peaks? Couldn't he have just driven there?

>>87399280
Was Kubrick killed by jews?

>>87399028
You might as well view the end of S2 as a broken Cooper, Dougie is essentially the empty shell of a man remaining after tragedy, and lodgeCoop is him racing around through all the possibilities of what could be in his mind, until he arrives at a Lost-Highwayesque perverse solution of changing history itself and then imagining what things would be like.

>>87399251

I'm not sure what this means?

Also, ironic you mention Madonna given all the abuse and torment she suffered at the hands of Sean Penn. Could have made for a character in TP.

>>87399216
Cooper literally caught Bob by placing his faith in the Giant's words and using magic. He's a very humble person as shown through the series multiple times. You guys are just jerking each other off with your reddit theories about something that is never once shown in the show itself; when Harry confronts Cooper over his weird methods, Cooper backs the fuck down and lets Harry take control and arrest Ben Horne. He clearly shows respect and listens to the Fireman and to MIKE.

>>87399291
he didn't want to go to twin peaks, he wanted to get to the place cooper finds in the last scene (looked like fireman and brigs tricked him)

He doesn't actually say Oh Angelo in the video
its a totally made up phrase by the community and has no intended way of inflection

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Why does James Hurley look like an AIDs patient now?

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AYYY WEED LMAO HIKING ADVENTURES

What's the point of all his scenes?

>>87399216
>Cooper's folly is he buys in to his own perfection, he thinks he can save everyone.
Some people say this is folly, but I think the ending of FWWM shows this in a more positive light.

Cooper is in some ways an eternal "good" that is trying to make right, or "save Laura." Laura knows that she cannot be saved at least in life, which lets her move beyond (ie, the ending of FWWM). Cooper's tragedy, but also his virtue, is that he will never stop trying to "save Laura," or rather, save innocence/goodness, even if he is constantly left confused or confounded by the larger forces of the world of Twin Peaks.

>>87397285
And you keep pulling nonsense out of your ass. JM isn't even supposed to be a spirit like Bob, he's like a "talisman that came to life" in Lynch's words. He inhabits the convenience store and is kind of a living switch that lets the physical and spiritual world coexist physically, which is why he jumps in the convenience store meeting in FWWM and appears briefly when the woodsman turns on that electric thing that lets doppelcoop enter the motel.

>>87399280
s4 is never happening, coop. let laura go.

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>>87399312

Hell fucking yes he was.

If Eyes Wide Shut isn't proof enough, what is.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/pictures-rothschild-family/

>2001
>clokwork
>shining
>eyes wide shut

>>87399332
Saying that Cooper is determined to a fault doesn't mean he can't be humble as well. He's not a one-dimensional character. I didn't say anything that contradicts your first statement either.

For the rest, you come off as really bitter when the best argument you can make is calling people reddit (how is anything I said a theory, the three events I mentioned are all things that happen in the series, not theories) and saying we're jerkoffs.

>>87399365
Meaningless closure on a character we followed the story of 25 years earlier

>>87399291
He wanted to get to the lodge to fuck shit up there. Once he got there the Fireman and Briggs trapped him immediately. Then dropped him off in front of the Sherrif station because they knew that's where everyone was headed

>>87399341
Angelo says it himself.

>>87399365
losing one's self and being forgotten. the same thing everyone's scenes are about this season.

>>87399373
Yeah I guess it depends how you look at it. Some people could see that as his fatal flaw that he gets in too deep and fucks himself over, but it could also be a force of ultimate good like you said

>>87399332
Holy hell, and I thought the cuteposters were bad. Dalefags literally broken by the finale lmao

>>87399423
timecode?

>>87399365
ep1-16 were a red herring
the only real clues within them were the continuity errors (showing there's two realities, with certain scenes taking place in one or the other), the plot was meaningless to the resolution, it was a magic trick hiding the conclusion in the open while distracting you with something more tangible
basically you thought you were watching a tv show and you were instead watching a moving painting

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>>87399272
You're right, it is a stretch. The part where instrumentality takes place and the random animation cels are superimposed over each other before it lingers on Shinji's face is the closest thing I can compare to it. Either way, it has the same significance.

>>87399444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgXLEM8MhJo
just watch it all

What's the last thing she says before getting shot by Albert and Tammy?
"I sent him coordinates to the sheriff's station."
That's why Mr. C ends up there instead of at the Palmer house. Perhaps the device in his hand has coordinates that not only lead him to the portal, they dictate where he will be teleported to when he enters the portal.
Diane's tulpa modified the coordinates so that instead of taking him to the Palmer house, they would take him to the sheriff's station.
Mr. C doesn't know who or where Judy is, otherwise he would have just driven to the Palmer house directly. So, when he arrives at the station, he is confused but not willing to leave just yet. He lets Andy invite him in and meets with Frank. This sets in motion the chain of events leading to his defeat.
When Diane's tulpa whispers "Oh Coop... I hope this works" she is talking about this very plan. It works. Diane's tulpa is the hero of the story. Using all of her strength she resists her programming for one last moment and saves the day.
"I know. Fuck you."
Unlike Dougie, when she vanishes in the lodge she leaves behind only a golden seed, not an additional distorted shape like Dougie did. This is because she has redeemed herself by playing her part in destroying BOB and Mr. C.

>>87399336
He seemed like he wanted to be there. He went inside instead of just walking away. Didn't he mention before that the other location he had besides the place he took Richard was the Sheriff's Station?

>>87399472
I did several times. He never says OH ANGELO

>>87399341
He doesn't say it as a solo expression on it's own, like "Oh Angelo!", he says it in the middle of a sentence while playing the song. "Oh Angelo, you're breaking my heart" is the exact phrasing

>>87397677
Wrapped in Towel.

>>87399224
>>87399272
>>87399468
the whole episode really reminded me of the last couple episodes of EVA.
>seemingly bizarre, unsettling, and anticlimactic
>set up a big battle with some entity that never happens
I wonder if we will get End of Twin Peaks

>>87399406
it can be pretty annoying when it gets posted a billion times per thread that somehow Twin Peaks is a morality tale about a man broken by his own hubris when really, Cooper is humble at every step of the way and does nothing but listen to others and especially his superiors. In S3 especially he is going along with a destiny that was planned for him in advance. That's the opposite of being overconfident, people are getting this because they think it's interesting but there is no basis in the actual show for it

When bad Cooper was shot who was the man whose face appeared when the oompas-loompas were doing the ritual in Cooper's body? In the same episode this face showed in a egg.

based anime poster

>>87399545
>oompa-loompas

kek

>/tpg/'s own 'phillip jeffries' shitposter bullying superstar ray wise about black grandmas in the comments of a video we he speaks out against bullying

for shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC8g8d1khtw

>>87399545
Bob?

captcha: chalfonte

End of Evangelion looks like pure kino but the show seems like boring mech shit

>>87399489
>He seemed like he wanted to be there.
Oh, the first thing he says is "What is this" so I assumed he didn't expect to be there
>Didn't he mention before that the other location he had besides the place he took Richard was the Sheriff's Station?
Did he really? Didn't remember that bit

>>87399443
I think in many ways, Cooper is Laura's "guardian angel" of sorts.

If you look at the pairing metaphorically, Laura is seen as the innate goodness struggling under the weight of the bad of the world, whereas Cooper is drawn to save her.

The sadness of the finale is realizing that you can't just "save" Laura Palmer because there are an endless number of Laura Palmers to save, and saving one just brings you back to "starting position" (ie, the last shot of the show, with the two back in the red room). I think that is the secret, ultimately, that Laura is telling a sad Dale.

The final act of the show is a "recreation" of Twin Peaks (or the Return, maybe) - a search for Laura Palmer that leads to Twin Peaks. But this doesn't "save" Laura either, in the sense that it magically makes things better. People want to wallow in the bleakness of the finale, and there is a great deal of melancholy, but I also think about how many people whose lives were improved by Cooper/Dougie throughout the show, as well as the general theme of awakening that underpins the show. Awakening to your "true self" means the start of something new, and potentially better. Cooper in some way, in the Return, is the agent of that Awakening.

>>87399588
Who? You mean Bobby? It didn't look like him.

>>87397453
If Sheryl Lee was an insect she'd be Sheryl Bee ;3

>>87397521
yeah it is. remember how Bob was struggling in and out of her during this bit in FWWM. she saw him in the mirror several times.

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>tfw it's over

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>>87399541
Yeah, I don't think it is hubris. I do think though that Cooper got ahead of himself after being in the lodge and dealing with the lodge for so long and believed he understood it's workings when he really didn't at all (this could be symbolized with how he did the little finger wave thing to open the lodge curtains, and then tried to do it again outside the palmer house and nothing happened). He thought he understood forces far beyond his comprehension, tried to alter reality way too much to save one small person and absolutely fucked up reality. You can see the existential dread he feels as he realizes how badly he fucked up when they talk to the owner of the Palmer house.

>>87399589
the way it works is it lures normies in with boring mecha shit then about 5 episodes in it starts to detract from that and slowly buiilds in kino til around episode 20 when its directed like a jodorowsky lynch lovechild and the normies start to question they're own existence

>>87399541
I never went as far as to say it's "a morality tale about a man broken by his own hubris", but those events I pointed out show how Cooper's idealism can cloud his judgement. Him being humble has nothing to do with that, and I agree that he is and he does listen to others. That doesn't negate things and mean he can't still fail at things. I feel like we're talking about two different things because you haven't acknowledged any of the points I've been bringing up from the show and series, but we can agree to disagree.

>you will never rape and kill Ronette Pulaski

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>>87399613
Sheryl Tree lol

>>87399589
Neon Genesis evangelion is a robot saga the same way Twin Peaks was a cop show. If you care about the characters it's actually pretty good. I like how a lot of the development is implied instead of blatantly spoonfed to the viewer

>>87399539
I agree. I feel like one of Lynch's kids showed him evangelion and he was inspired by it.
>>87399589
The show is understated for the most part, as opposed to end of eva. The subversive aspects are there in the beginning as a general mood of depression and alienation and become increasingly apparent as the show goes on. Give it a watch up until episode 4, if you dont like it go ahead and go straight to end of eva

>>87399604

what the fuck are you doing

>>87399541
Why is it that your opinion is the correct one when other people give evidence for theirs, while all you do is call other people reddit and talk about jacking off? Have you considered maybe that's why people disagree with you when your theory's basis is namecalling others?

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>>87399670
>yfw watching the original final two episodes for the first time

>>87397799
>Part 17 is greatly enhanced with the context of 18. But 17 is a much worse episode, and the rushed climax at the sheriffs station can't be excused, they did such meticulous build up for this to be the big finish only to then rush to get it over with when we finally get there, it could have been so much better.

i can't hazard a guess as to Lynch's mind but honestly i feel like it was MEANT to be rushed and saccharine so that the actual ending was so much more horrible. a suckerpunch.

>>87399671
>Give it a watch up until episode 4, if you dont like it go ahead and go straight to end of eva
What kinda bullshit advice is that.
DUDE IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE TWIN PEAKS PILOT JUST WATCH THE FINALE

You are far away.

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>>87399604
No, Bob from the original series.

He died of AIDs in '94 I believe.

>>87399589
Evangelion is to mecha what Twin Peaks is to soap operas.

>>87399633
You know how I know this is the dumbest theory? Because you're here 24/7 regurgitating it, which mean you have the time to do so, which means you're some dunce loser with no job.

>>87399545

that was Dr Jacoby

>>87399739
>What kinda bullshit advice is that.
skipfags never change

>>87399633
>He thought he understood forces far beyond his comprehension, tried to alter reality way too much to save one small person and absolutely fucked up reality.

thanks for the textbook definition of hubris my man

>>87399767
Differentfag here. I just looked up evangelion on amazon. What the fuck am I supposed to get.

99% of the time I go look for anime people recommend and I see fifteen thousand confusingly-named things, I have no idea what supposed to be the main line, what's some retarded offshoot, what's some OVA, etc.

Goddamn japs. I really want to be a buyfag to support good stories but it's nearly impossible.

>>87399570
you mean that guy who listens to blood on the dance floor and furry music

lol

what a sad life

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Sheryl Lee is a true, genuine person!

>>87399633
Hubris in the traditional Greek tragedy sense is pride/overconfidence that leads to one's downfall, which is exactly what you went on to describe.

People need to stop being so defensive about Cooper and getting personally insulted

>>87399641
>he buys into his own perfection
if Cooper thought of himself as perfect he would be an overconfident person and he certainly wouldn't follow orders, respect his destiny or listen to others and know when to back down, so yes I do disagree
I've heard other people saying that Cooper was "playing God" when following a destiny preordained by a magical being is the literal opposite of playing God, it's following what you assume is a God.
I agree that he probably became overly dependant on the Lodges because MIKE and The Fireman were guiding him every step of the way (and they have been since Season 1, only he wasn't aware of it completely by then) and when he realizes he can't access the lodge (he tries the hand gesture in front of Laura's house) is when he breaks down. That's not being full of himself though, if anything that's being overreliant on others and placing too much faith in what you think of as your superiors. Now that Cooper is alone he has to remember how to use basic problem solving instead of just going with whatever destiny the Fireman set up for him

AYUDAME

ARE YOU JAO DAY?

DA SHEET IT COME OUTTA MY ASS, MEESTER JEFFRIES

AYOU JAO DAY?

>>87399633
totally unrelated but every time i see that thumbnail i picture the giant doing the "dimitri finds out" meme dance

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What the fuck was this scene and why was it so poorly executed?

He went there with the hopes of finding Judy, but was immediately put into a cage upon arrival and sent to the sheriffs station, but why? What was he expecting? Did he have no plans whatsoever?

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>>87399846
I can see why Cooper traveled through time and space to save someone so amazing!

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>>87397499
>>87397584
>>87397698
>>87397584

>>87399714
if you can't handle any bantz you can get off 4chan, shittalking is just for fun, chill out

>>87399890

LYNCHED

>>87399874

Tell us again when the giant tells Cooper to save Laura.

>>87397499
>>87399907
WAIT... WHAT?!!

>>87397758

Judy, halfway between her frogroach and bar-rapist-neck-ripping-out form.

>>87399890
I hate this scene, it looked fucking awful, intentional shitposting is still shitposting.

>>87399907
so desmond was in another reality? thats why cooper gets confused because magician x2 makes things go loop?

>>87399925
He is the one who gives him access to the Carrie Paige dimension (430)
So maybe he misunderstood the orders and was meant to find Richard and Linda (possibly himself and Diane) instead of Laura, I don't understand how being the agent of a superior being can ever equate to playing god when they are polar opposites

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>>87399828
Ignore the rebuilds (shit with names like Evangelion 3.33 or 1.0 and shit, movies), they are movies that are remakes/re-imaginings of the original series and they are shit. Watch the original 25 episode series and then watch the film End of Evangelion (which can be a bitch to find).

>>87399993

when does he ever tell Cooper to go back in time and save Laura the night of her murder?

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>>87399903
He just ended up fucking up, though

>>87399539
I've seen this opinion a lot of times but I think differently. The last couple of episodes of EVA (EOE aside) had a positive and caring message. It showed the protagonist arriving at the end of his journey having realized his flaws and commiting to becoming a better person, with the warm acceptance and approval from everyone around him. When I watched it, that really stuck with me.

I do feel like there are lots of comparisons that could be made to Twin Peaks though, but the biggest one would be the circumstances regarding the end evangelion and the final episode of TP when they originally aired.

Evangelion director wanted the series to be longer, tell the story in a different manner, but producers didn't let him have his way. Thus, without any budget he tried to portray the message in the best way he could, only to be completely washed over with death treats and critiques from the viewers who felt like the series sucked as it lacked a proper conclusion. Thus, EOE was his response to them. Violent and apocalyptic, terrible things happening to the characters everyone knew and loved. That's exactly the same feeling I got from the end of the original Twin Peaks series! Never thought I'd experience that again, it was pretty nice

>>87400023
He never directly does, but Leland says "Find my daughter" and the giant says "Richard and Linda, two birds with one stone." Make of that what you will.

>>87400021
yeah you totally helped the guy who was asking which home release was which by stating your personal taste

>>87400021
Thanks. Looks like I'll have to be a piratefag again. Really getting tired of it.

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So what happens here is the same exact thing that happened to Phillip Jeffries, right?

The lights go out and Coop disappears and everybody forgets he was ever there, presumably?

It took Cole 25 years to recall that event with Jeffries, and he did so in a dream. Is this to say that what occurs is more metaphysical than it is a made up dream?

What happened happened, but it also didn't, kind of..? That is to say the superimposed face has less to do with Cooper's awakening and more to do with him existing in 2 planes at once, becoming aware of the 2nd in this moment.

>>87400082
He's just telling him what things he needs to ignore. The Rebuild is skippable, so is Death & Rebirth.

>>87400076

Exactly.

He is not told to save Laura, he acts in that regard of his own volition. Leland isn't a spiritual God figure that he has to listen to. If anything it's just Cooper being given a justification to feel like he's on a quest again.

He makes the choice to save Laura the night of her murder and in doing so he fucks everything up.

>>87400058
I interpreted the final episodes of EVA as what happened when everyone was joined as one in instrumentality and it happened simultaneously with End of Eva, and found it horrifying in that regard.
>>87400082
Are you retarded? He asked what he's supposed to watch when someone says "watch Neon Genesis Evangelion" and I told him what to watch because he seemed confused about what was the original that everyone talks about. There is no easy home release so I just told him what to watch.

>>87400058
EoE was scripted before the death threats, they just didn't have any budget to make it as the actual ending since the execs thought the series had no traction, all the fan reactions to the tv finale showed them there was interest in the product so they made EoE as a theatrical movie, but that was always the intended ending to the show

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remember when people thought Candie was going to be important, and Laura's tulpa or some shit

>>87399103
Who's Annie? Was she in the show? I don't remember her.

>>87400134
I agree and that was my interpretation. With what Leland said, and "two birds one stone" Cooper may have misinterpreted what the giant said to do, but we will never know for sure.

this article about audrey https://ozba.wordpress.com/2017/08/31/twin-peaks-audrey-billy-and-living-inside-a-dream/

mentions a "Ghostwood madhouse that was also mentioned in her conversations with Charlie."

I don't remember any mention of a madhouse in the return at all? is this blogposter full of shit or am I the dumb one and i forgot

>>87400155
Candie
Carrie

When you remove the same letters you are left with rr dn -> RR Diner

t. Mark Frost

>>87400155
People that thought every odd thing or character in The Return had some important supernatural explanation are dumb and probably have not seen other Lynch work to know that he just does that.

>>87400021
>>87400082
>>>/t/769174

>>87400149
>I looked up Evangelion on Amazon, what am I supposed to get
>the original show because rebuilds is bad
how is that supposed to help him if the dvds aren't called "the original show"? I looked it up on amazon too and even I don't know what the fuck he's supposed to buy, and I have the whole show on dvd as it was released in my country

>>87397928
>>87397799
The "LAURA" scream sent chills down my spine as it felt like coming from inside the house and at the same time from the depths of another dimension aka a deeply buried traumatic memory.

>>87397521

When I first saw this I thought they were going in the Vampire direction

People not getting that Audrey was actually Laura.
>keeps mentioning billy
>billy is lost
>when laura talks to coop she says, "did you find him?"
>audrey has a hate for her husband charlie...strangles him
>laura kills the man in her home...is he charlie

>>87400208
I already told you, it is very hard or impossible to find a home release so I simply told him what he should look for. Now he knows to either just torrent it or look for DVDs that say "the original series ep 1-25" and "end of evangelion".

>>87400098
The thing about Lynch is that his distinction between dreams and reality is not "fake vs real"; they're both real. In Lost Highway, for instance, it's not Fred dreaming he's Pete; they both existed.

If any level/world in Twin Peaks is actually a dream, it doesn't make it any less real or important to its counterpart.

A Thomas Ligotti quote comes to mind: "Unless life is a dream, nothing makes sense. For as a reality, it is a rank failure."

>>87400155
Remember when people thought Audrey was the key to all of this?

>>87400199
Hi Mark! Was Candie being retarded your metaphor for Trump?

>>87397565

>Lynch forcing himself to be an important character

>>87400192
full of shit, she just mentions the Ghostwood
blogger probably never watched the original show and has no idea what the Ghostwood is

>>87400249
this is the stupidest theory yet

>>87400208
I think he's completely capable of recognizing which DVDs contain the original show, while being able to ignore the DVDs that contain movies called stuff like "Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance", which is the nomenclature that the Rebuilds uses.

>>87400249
lol what a shit theory

>>87397499
Are those drapes? where was laura's room supossed to be?
>>87399907
this brings some interesting questions.

>>87400253
I really don't get why people are having trouble with this when in the original series nearly all interactions Cooper had with the Black Lodge were in the form of dreams or hallucination.

>>87400262
She was a braindead white blonde, make your own conclusions.

Also, buy my new book coming out later this year Twin Peaks: Final Dossier, only 29.99$ at a bookstore near you.

>>87400249
How is she both Laura and the Arm?

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>tfw the first song used in the return basically describes the finale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGUboLZx3Tk

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>theoryfags getting worse by the day

>>87399312
Sorry to inform you, but Kubrick was a jew.

hey remember how when doppelcoop was in prison we saw his birthday, and it was the same day as matthew hasting's birthday?

And it was too recent to match his age, but also too old to have been when he came out of the lodge?

>>87400343
"I took your picture from the frame"
*Sarah stabs Laura's iconic picture*

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>>87400347
Easy Sheryl... E A S Y . . .

>>87398669

I like to think that's how he talks to her in bed.

>>87399890
I was legit lynched by this scene. Someone convince me it's not embarrassingly bad.

>>87400372
you're a big gun

>>87400372
That's a big gun

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>you now realize the ant-head shapped "mother of all evil" is Antpool, the chinese bitcoin mining giant
>you now realize the fork represents the hardforked Cooper as in a bitcoin hardfork trying to sabotage the real bitcoin
>the whole series happens in an orphaned block that finally dies

>>87400306
its the stairwell where the fan is

>>87400395
I can defend Diane's tulpa detulpification, but this one was genuinely *bad*, and for no reason. They could have least tried to make Brigg's head suck less.

>people who think sarah breaking laura's picture frame made laura disappear from the woods in the past

lol what? why? the picture wasn't even damaged

>>87400372
>tfw no assassin Sheryl to femdom me

>>87400411
So DoppelCoop, who was the mysterious billionaire funding the New York project, made all his fortune in Bitcoin?

>>87399907
Is this a nuclear explosion in the reflection?

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>>87400352
he got better

>>87400482
Yes
BOBcoin

>>87400395
Lynch really loves DIY effects but he doesen't realize it doesen't work the same way with digital as it does with practical so they look like shit
that's really all there is to it

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>>87399365
He was the kinoest.

>>87399907
what am i supposed to be seeing here?

>>87400395
There's no convincing, it's just bad and does not work at all.

There's a million ways to have communicated what that scene did that would have looked better. I don't get why the actor couldn't just be there person, walk up to the the stage only to be ripped away like Laura was from the red room.

It's bad, that's all there is to it.

>>87400151
Eh, was it really? I mean, they even made a point of showing the threat messages on the movie and everything. Maybe it was scripted but it sure wasn't originally supposed to be like the way it ended up being. The way I saw it, the contrast between the themes and messages from the movie and the series was far too great. Shinji especially. I was really touched by how he always struggled to find his voice because he wanted to be understood and accepted by people, while in EOE the main source of his agony was directly stated as "WHY WON'T GIRLS FUCK ME". Lots of it looked and sounded like a big fuck you to everyone that pestered him about the original series ending

Sorry to keep on derailing the thread, by the way

>>87399358

He had bowel cancer or something similar. Had a large portion of his guts removed.

>>87400517
The reflection in the window is showing daytimes and there's some red drapes in the inside

>>87400134
>He makes the choice to save Laura the night of her murder and in doing so he fucks everything up.

I think people are jumping to the conclusion that he "fucks everything up." Like you're projecting it on a cosmic scale. Cooper was going through a final journey of self-discovery, to see if he could "save Laura" and stop the beginning of all the bad things of Twin Peaks. He even goes to an alternate reality, or rather, an alternate story, to replay the events of Twin Peaks condensed down into a single journey (a single "Return"), only to learn the truth at the end, that he ultimately can't erase evil from the world - it existed before him (episode 8 shows this, in a way - in a world without Laura Palmer). There will always be more Lauras to save, as I said above in the topic.

I guess you could call that a fuck-up, but there Cooper is, with Laura, in the Waiting Room over the final shot of the credits. She is whispering a secret while he looks distraught. Is it future, or is it past?

I think there are number of ways to see the ending, but it's surprising that so many people latch onto the kick-the-Cooper-while-he's-down reading.

>>87400192
There are allusions to a mental asylum all throughout Audrey's subplot.

I think she says that Chuck is "certifiable."
She might have said madhouse, I can't remember.
Charlie looks like a stereotypical Freudian psychiatrist.
One of the random chicks at the bar is talking about Billy, and another says "You really should hang around those nutjobs."

I think i got it, Cooper is Laura. Thats why MIKE speaks is it the past or the future, implying is it Laura or Cooper. Sex change and new identity can be a tough deal to handle, thats why Cooper has many doppelgangers.

>>87400494
Tell that to his foreskin

>>87400482
It's Roger Ver trying to sabotage Bitcoin via hardforks.
Craig Wright is BOB.

>>87400541
Oh shit

>>87400550
So it's like Heinlein's "All You Zombies", and everyone is Cooper?

>>87400549
then why would episode 8 show laura being created as a golden orb by the fireman if she's actually unimportant?

>>87397659
>Does this mean she's still missing in the new timeline?

Yes

>Wouldn't the town go through a similar period of distress and have an investigation into her disappearance anyway?

Yea, but they wouldn't know that she was dead and the investigation would go nowhere.

>>87397946
It's possible he would but Laura's spirit wouldn't be in the lodge to guide him. That's what I got out of the beginning of the last ep anyway.

Quick I need someone to post that Ray Wise porn tab right now please thank you

>>87399907
What is this?

Just finished the series. Have to say, ended better than I thought it would, I'm glad they left it open ended instead of shoehorning in some happy ending like episode 17 suggested.

>>87400644
What?

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>>87400581
>bowel cancer
>oh shit
hue

>>87400658
just gtfo right now

>>87400607
The idea of Laura is important (as it is to Lynch). It clearly shows, as I said, that Laura (or what she represents) is a symbol of goodness, and that darkness existed before her (and will exist after her).

I am reading Laura here as a metaphor in some ways. She is the quintessential "woman in trouble" - goodness, innocence, etc. besieged by darkness. You can't ultimately "save Laura" - or rather, erase the entirety of Twin Peaks - any more than you can actually kill Judy, or "the extreme negative force" - evil. It will always exist, but Laura will always exist. It's like the symbol of infinity that Jeffries shows Cooper. There is ultimately no "end" to the struggle, but that doesn't mean you stop struggling. When you do, you end up like Leland, or Sarah.

>>87400658
>>87400517
>>87400485

Hard to tell what anything in it really is beyond some shapes, but the general effect is that that's an impossible reflection. Lodge shenanigans.

>>87400686
he posted a screenshot of his browser and it had a pornhub tab for black grandmas or something like that

>>87397504
I would have liked to call it Twin Peaks.

>>87400706
I know it's FWWT, but what's the context?

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>>87397453
Reminder that all of Twin Peaks was just Laura's dream trying to scape the misery of her life, trying to make sense of all the rape, drug abuse, prostitution, etc. And being horrified when she wakes up and has to go back to reality where there are no some grand celestial explanation to all the evil she is suffering, theres no magic in the world.

Basically Muholland Drive all over again

Evangelion is fucking garbage

Fucking kids

>>87400744

I think you meant it was a dog's dream.

>>87399365

The binoculars thing was the only part I got a sense of purpose
from. About him seeing something out of context, looking through
the wrong end of a lens, and coming to the wrong conclusion
about what he thinks she saw.

So maybe it's Lynch making a comment about audience members
who are "lost in the woods" and making the wrong call about the
various mysteries, because they're impaired in some way or miles
away from the real action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBx1Q3DEyDY

>>87400710
I mean I like what you see in it but I genuinely think you put a lot more thought and heart into it than the staff did

>>87399365

Filler. Compared to the filler in the first two seasons, this is pretty good.

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>>87400494

Too funny. Tears.

>>87400203
nice

>>87400806
True. I actually managed to sit through the whole seasom this time. Filler in the originals aged horribly. Sorry but I just don't care about your chinese mafia drama, Josie

>>87400494
Was Stanley Kubrick, dare I say, /ourguy/?

>>87400876

Fuck off.

>>87400251
yeah I got the message clearly, I don't know why everyone is sperging

can't always be a buyfag, even if I want to be

>>87400781
ha, maybe. But I think Lynch and Frost were savvy enough to put "clues" into the interpretive paths you could take with the season.

It definitely warrants a rewatch. There are so many parallels, metaphors, and visual clues going on in the show that it almost demands your complete attention.

Anime is shite