/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

>>87341520

Jumping man

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Repostan:

The jumping man/bug is Judy's familiar and representative since she's "trapped" in the outside space.
She can also likely "ride" him like BOB is "riding" Mr C.
And just like BOB inhabited Leland, the jumping man (and by extension Judy) can inhabit Sarah as their chosen vessel.

Another disturbing facet of this is that the young person that was supposed to be BOB's original host was a childhood boyfriend of young Sarah, so Judy fucking extracted a motherload of garmonbozia from this entire situation.

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im so fucking depressed fellas

>>87343819
That's just a theory. I don't buy it. He looks nothing like Silva. Also Ep. 8 shows that BOB was born fully grown.

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>pete goes fishing instead of having to report laura's dead body
;_;

>>87343825
what year is this?

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>>87343772
Am I the only one who thinks the "new timeline" is a Lodge trick?

When Coop asks "What year is this?" nu-Laura doesn't seem to know, either. All the events are odd and dreamlike in a way the everyday Twin Peaks character interactions weren't.

Compare the entire "real world" sequence of where Coop ended up with the discovery of the corpse by random cops in the first episode, for example.

Coop also ended up there through fear and suffering, by mutually agony-fucking Diane.

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>>87224162 →
Friendly reminder that Vedderposters were right
Listen https://youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM

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>>87343825
Chet is lost just like Coop.

>>87343862
>Also Ep. 8 shows that BOB was born fully grown.

Lynch uses overlaid faces as symbols all the time, anon. Freddie probably didn't literally see Silva's snarling face in the orb thing he was fighting.

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>>87343971
>Compare the entire "real world" sequence of where Coop ended up with the discovery of the corpse by random cops in the first episode, for example.

Also this.

>>87344008
>Freddie probably didn't literally see Silva's snarling face in the orb thing he was fighting.
Why not? There's no indication otherwise.

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I'm 30

I remember the first 2 seasons as that show my mom and aunt watched but were pissed off due to weirdness and them not getting it. When it first got out they expected a new drama/soap opera.
They were fans of Dynasty.

I was a fan of weird movie art since I can remember. I can recall Blue Velvet as that weird ass movie where this severed ear was the main character. Heck, I even remember where I was sitting in my old house when I first saw it on TV. This was in 1990. or 1991 mind you.

For some reason I was always aware of lynch but never have i dwelled into his work.
I was a fan (and still am) of these two kikes, Kubrick and Jodorowsky. I consider 2001. the best piece of woke art that ever was or ever will be.
But like I said, I never found time for Lynch.

Until S3 was announced.
Due to busy life I haven't watched S1 and S2.

>Searched jewtube
>read threads
>read secret history
>watch S3.

I got everything that matters and will ever matter to the plot.

People who say that you have to

>start with the American pilot
>worship satan
>kill a cat
>S1
>S2
>FWWM
>missing pieces
>book
>S3
>take a dick in the ass
>final dossier

are fucking

LYNCHED

Holy fuck I just realized

>episode EIGHT
>Cooper goes to NUMBER 8 in the final episode

There's nothing but suffering and pure black lodge darkness in that episode. Cooper just went into a deeper part of the black lodge that he never went to before.

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Threads have slowed down.

What was your favourite roadhouse scene /tpg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJo6mQ8uMy8

>>87344198
>she just wakes up in her bed
WRONG.

>>87344126
There's no indication it's so either, anymore than there was indication everyone saw Coop's face superimposed over their post-BOB death celebration

humor me.

why did Cooper and Diane travel to whatever reality they crossed over to at 430 miles? presumably, it was to kill two birds with one stone, but what is that? destroy Judy and save Laura? but wasn't Laura already saved at that point?

>Cooper creates a timeline where Laura doesn't die. when mom calls her name in the morning 1989, she just wakes up in her bed
>In the timeline that we observed the whole time, a new Cooper doppelganger goes on living in Las Vegas as Dougie. In this timeline, Judy is furious because there is now a reality in which Laura survives.
>When Cooper leaves the lodge to meet up with Diane, Laura is already saved in a different timeline

if his mission was to save Laura, he didn't have to travel through 430.

so his real mission is to find Laura as Leland told him because she is integral to destroying Judy.

I'm gonna make an argument that he needed to find Spirit Laura that is some kind of lodge inhabitant/angelic entity, at that point detached from the Laura that wakes up in 1989. Spirit Laura inhabits Carrie with no recollection of her past life in some pocket dimension ruled by/created by Judy. she is probably imprisoned there. at the very end, she finally remembers everything.

Cooper is looking confused the whole time because, in the meantime, he is trying to understand how that pocket dimension works/trying to figure out where Judy is.

that's the best I can do trying to explain this shit.

but why did he take Diane with him? her insertion into the story doesn't make sense, and even less so in the ending.

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This is how you do a last episode

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>>87343973

>>87344254
but we flat out see the opening of the pilot without the body. she's clearly alive at that point.

>>87344283
>Lynch has gone soft.
>Not where it matters, in directing.
>Throws Dale Cooper and Laura Palmer into deepest pit of Black Lodge in the finale

Poetry.

>>87344182
>read secret history

How come "blue rose" is the name of a drug boat in the Secret History? There are so many retcons in S3 for Frost's autism

>>87344286
How was a random set guy so amazing as a baddie

>>87344306
Alive, yes.
In her bed? No.
She took a ride to Odessa.

>Coop always accepts coffee
>Doppleganger always declines coffee
>Cooper at Judy's in the final episode neither accepts or declines coffee when offered

Makes you think...

>>87344198

I haven't seen anyone mention the fact Cooper told Gordon he was 'trying to kill two birds with one stone' BEFORE he disappeared after season 2. And he left a message telling them that if he disappears to try and find him? Makes even less sense that this is presumably the doppleganger Cooper

>>87343819
Looks more like a young Cooper than anything.

>>87344363
Some of the line delivery in Judy's dinner was straight mr.c

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>>87343825
>tfw even if there is a season 4 it probably won't come out for at least a few years

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COOP, I WANT YOU TO MEET RUTH "DAVENPORT", SHE WORKED WITH BILL ON THE BLUE ROSE CASE

>>87344195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmyFzEeXhL4

>>87344396
tfw see you in 25 more years

>>87344392
>>87344363
It's just generic commentary on duality of man, ying and yang, you can't be so puzzled by this, literally simplest most thing in the entire ep

>>87344337
>She took a ride to Odessa.
Are you saying that she literally ran away from home that night in 1989 and that Carrie is the real Laura? I think Carrie genuinely didn't know who she was and Odessa definitely didn't seem like a "real" world.

>>87344363
>Cooper at Judy's in the final episode neither accepts or declines coffee when offered
He's in her domain, it kinda makes sense that he would refuse to cooperate there in any way. It also reinforces the feeling that shit is hitting the fan.

What household appliance do you think copper will turn into in the motel?

>>87343772
>judyposters were right all along

Really make you think.

>>87344420
Carrie is Laura, just like Richard was Cooper.
Both needed a wake up call.

for Richard, sex.
for Carrie, the Palmer house.

>>87344363
The happy Cooper who appeared at the sheriff's station was the past Cooper, not the current Cooper---who has all the experiences of Dopplecooper embedded in his psyche. So the old, happy Cooper is cancelled out by the Dopplecoop part of him.

>Where did Cooper actually go? A Dream? Parallel timeline?
>What would having Carrie remembering she's Laura accomplish?
>Is this even part of the plan to get/meet/defeat Judy?
>Why is there a parallel timeline where Carrie exists anyways?

>>87344440
yeah but needing the wake up call implies that they are in a different reality/dimension

The last 20 minutes or so of episode 17 might be some of the best 20 minutes of the entire series.

I think I would have been satisfied if it just ended there without the Odessa epilogue.

>>87343862
Ep 8 also shows Laura being born fully grown.
hmm, maybe a face on an orb isn't a literal explanation of their birth.

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>>87344284
>but why did he take Diane with him? her insertion into the story doesn't make sense, and even less so in the ending.

The scittering sound happens when 80's Laura gets sucked away. We see that same sucking-away-and-screaming thing happen directly in the Lodge to separate Laura from Cooper. So where Judy is keeping Carrie is most likely an evil Lodge dimension.

You enter the Black Lodge through fear and suffering. The pocket dimension created by Judy to cage golden-orb-Laura must be closed off to good spirits, so human Coop has to rescue Laura for the Giant. It's a dark place where he can't even speak.

They cross the threshold at "430", but it isn't until waking from the sex scene does Coop's personality change and he actually arrives in the motel he leaves to find Carrie.

So Diane's rape trauma leading to that sex being horrifying was actually integral.

That's my working explanation, anyway.

>>87344195
>the brunette in the black dress
hnng

>>87344392
>>87344363

>Carrie works in Judy's diner

>Coop is more like Mr. C in this world

Seems more and more like it's an evil Judy world.

>Twin Peaks: The Return
lol

>>87344519
hey that's pretty good. I'm perfectly happy with this as a head-canon.

>>87344195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGUboLZx3Tk
It hit my nostalgia bone too hard.

>>87344306
I honestly think she just stopped existing as Laura (the one) at that point. Which is why she's taken away when Coop is saving her.

So basically Twin Peaks still exists as we know it except for the Palmer family. Which is why their house is now owned by other people.

Doesn't really explain where Carrie came from. Maybe it's like the original body the Fireman used for Laura

>>87344195

Anyone who says anything other than sharp dressed man is a cuck who voted hillary.

>>87343819
This is wrong, Bob was scaring kid Leland near his parents' cabin.

I skipped every Roadhouse scene.

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>>87343973

>>87344496
I won't lie, I had a couple tears when Cooper stands on the log reaching out to Laura.

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>>87344600
Vedderchecked

>>87344284
You're forgetting the part where Laura gets taken by something else at the end of part 17.

Other than that I feel ya with your questions.

>>87344519
Cooper seemed off the moment he stepped out of the red room and met Diane in the woods.

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>Cooper slips into Jowdays pocket dimension
>Makes the electricity (her life power) go out in her house.
>Credits
>Laura reveals to Cooper that by defeating Jowday the entire timeline will be altered and everything we've come to know and love about Twin Peaks and all of it's pawns including Cooper will become undone/rewritten into the fabric of the universe.
>"There's Some Fear in Letting Go"

Beautiful. Poetic. The long overdue swan song Twin Peaks always deserved.

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Johnny did a good job this season.

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>>87344195
Musically The Veils, probably.
Unfortunately marred by the insufferable Asian OCD actress from House MD sperging out on the floor.

Best sketch: "I have to ask you to stop smoking."

>>87344577
The Giant seems pretty set on having Coop retrieve Laura, even though she doesn't seem to be in direct "danger" anymore, so she must still have that good mojo in there somehow

Judy was on the verge of framing Carrie for shooting her husband and putting her in jail for safekeeping, rather than killing her again? Or maybe that suicide was general torment

The entire FWWM scene fused into season 3 with old Cooper was the best scene I've seen in years.

Pure beauty.

>>87344589
wat

>>87344595
Same, I don't particularly care for live music.

>>87344670
Judy feeds on pain and sorrow.
People give more p&s when they're alive.

>>87344696
I kinda wanna watch FWWM in black and white now desu

>>87344633
>timleine is rewritten
>only Gordon Cole will be the same
>the head of the FBI is no longer a tranny abomination

Lynch truly is a master of tying together loose ends.

>>87344519
So Laura doesn't wake up in her bed after all? She doesn't wash up on the shore because she isn't dead, but she isn't in her bed because she is snatched up by Judy and sent into her evil pocket dimension as Carrie? Is Carrie some kind of a mish-mash of a Spirit Laura that survives in the lodge after she dies (so she remembers all that happened to her), and Laura that gets saved by Cooper before she gets snatched away? That is the only way I can think of how she would (seemingly) come to remember everything at the end there.

>>87344619
I just assumed that the timeline was rewritten at that point and I didn't give it much thought beyond that. But what you and the guy I'm quoting above say makes a lot of sense.

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>>87344707
>live music

>>87344577
They got tricked, the "husband" lady was talking to was her grandson -jumping man - Sarah. It really was Palmer's house.

>>87344697
In s2 Leland talks about meeting Bob (mr. Robertson) when he was a kid

>>87344707
I like live music, but outside of Julee's song they were all shit

Can somebody explain to me what the fuck happened at the end of episode 18? Coop timetraveled and is now either stuck in the future or the past?

>>87344696

Can someone explain FWWM in relation to S3 and it's importance to the series as a whole?

I would watch it, but mom says I'm up to late!
Thanks!

>>87344773
fuck off

>>87344753
We've had like 50 threads trying to piece it together, nobody is explaining shit.

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EP18 it ten times more depressing and sad than The Road. In a positive way, of course, I haven't felt as moved by a show/film in forever.

>>87343825
>implying Coop won't find a way

>>87344808
wtf is that tiny red thing floating behind cooper?
is this a cursed image?

>>87344797
So everybody is as confused as I am, good to know. I thought there was an explanation for everything. But this ending means Lynch is open to continuing the story in another season, right?

I'm positive there is one real timeline which is the real reality. Which Coop changed.

and then Judy pulled Laura to black lodge hell.

Are there any torrents of the complete season yet? Haven't been able to find any.

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>>87344740
>She doesn't wash up on the shore because she isn't dead, but she isn't in her bed because she is snatched up by Judy and sent into her evil pocket dimension as Carrie?

Yeah, I think so. The "old Laura" is in there somehow, and back in the other/"real" world she must have disappeared physically but left the "unofficial" timeline otherwise intact.

So Judy's reeeeing over Laura surviving actually kept the Cooper-comes-to-Twin-Peaks narrative intact.

>>87344808
I just watched it again it's truly the most depressing shit I've ever seen on television. It makes season 2 ending seem not so bad.

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>when the kino hits you

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What is it even going to be about, Mark?

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>The Return
>Returns for fourteen minutes, then leaves

>>87344823

Before S3 was even announced I speculated that Cooper would develop lodge powers andctravel through time righting wrongs. I think what we saw in E17 and E18 was the beginning of this. He's fucking Sam Beckett, with black & white Lurch and MIKE guiding him instead of Al

IT WAS ALL A DREAM LMAO

>>87344848
>and back in the other/"real" world she must have disappeared physically but left the "unofficial" timeline otherwise intact.

Which would be why we see empty plastic, instead of nothing washing up.

>>87344874
Mike is not on Coop's side.
At best we can say the Giant and teapot-David Bowie are.

>>87344845
>eztv.it

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>>87344286
does anyone have the trent reznor version of this?

Is Jowday YHVH?

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Daily reminder that the reason Cooper was acting weird (i.e. a mixture of Good Coop and Bad Coop) in the finale was because the original Cooper was the one that went back to live as Dougie Jones, and it was the doppelganger manufactured by Mike that went in search of Laura Palmer.

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>>87344865
>final

Season 4 fags BTFO

Laura gets pulled away similarly to how she got pulled away in the episode where she meets Cooper in the Black Lodge as her old self.

>>87344912
This isn't a Japanese video game.

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Rude.

>>87344869
You float my life

>>87344823
once you go black, you'll never come back

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>>87344932

>>87344839
It seems that everyone is gradually gravitating towards the same general themes in the ending but not much is certain.

The ending is almost definitely a cliffhanger and it would be nice to have a movie to close it all out, but I personally find that pretty unlikely. At the very least, Lynch never said there would be a continuation for the story.

If you want a happy ending head-canon, just assume that at the end, Carrie remembers everything about being a Laura, so Cooper is finally successful at "finding Laura" and they can proceed to go find and destroy Judy.

Now that I typed that out, it's not really a story I'd like to see on film.

>>87344887
Are you new to Lynch or what?

>>87344936
My mom got more offended by that word that his actual actions.

>>87343872
Part of me feels like he wanted to give Jack Nance's character a good ending consider all the shit Jack went through, I thought it was quite touching.

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>>87344891
>Mike is not on Coop's side.

Oh hey can you spend some of your Arm's precious gormonbozia you sacrificed your life to retrieve from BOB so that my fake wife and son can live happy lives?

Not on your side or anything tho

>I understand.

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>>87344912
>Jowday

Everytime I see this I read it this guy's voice.

Can we have a moment of silence for anon who dropped acid before each new episode of the season 3?
I'm sure he's fucked up for life after the ending.

>>87344891

You say that but MIKE seemed pretty mellow in S3, he made a tulpa Dougie/Dale on request; didn't have to do that to get BOB back into the Lodge

What was the point in the number 6 on the pole in front of "Carrie's" house? Wasn't that the same pole in that one spot that they found those dead bodies earlier in the season?

I don't get it

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>E18.
>Laura whispers something to Dale.
>Colored scene.
>Gets pulled away.

>The same image appears at the end
>but slowed down
>no scream, no color

what did he mean by this

>>87344838
FUCK

Not sleeping tonight now.

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>>87344849
>>87344808
Why is it as sad? It implies they are finding out Judea's trap.

In S02's ending we just saw Coop fail and get trapped in the lodge, as we watched his malicious doppelganger psychotically smack his head against the mirror while grinning mischievously.

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>>87344919

MacLachlan is to good of an actor and by his face there you can see that he's being Dougie.

So yea...

most depressing shit i've ever seen

>>87345014
and this whisper-scream-vanishing happened once before in S3.

but this happens after Mike asks if its futore or past

I DON'T GET IT!

>>87345014
Weren't they just repeating the original scene, but with them ACTUALLY old this time?

>>87345031
Original Coop was always Dougie.

>>87344190
That episode is also the most expositionary out of all of them. Judy is explanation.

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>>87344904

>>87344954
>Now that I typed that out, it's not really a story I'd like to see on film.

That's why I prefer to think Cooper fucked it all up. He escaped the lodge, his doppleganger was killed and Bob was defeated. But he fucked it all up by trying to stop Laura from dying, something he could never do. In trying to save her he banished himself and her to an even worse fate

>>87343872
That was a real nice moment to see those clips from the first episode and then you see Pete fishing.

I miss Jack Nance.

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>>87344954
>The ending is almost definitely a cliffhanger and it would be nice to have a movie to close it all out,

Media is sperging as if Season 4 is unlikely, but Lynch has already said he "would love to" and the streaming revenue has exceeded all expectations.

>S4
>not happening

>>87345036

are all her screams from the same place in time echoing trough different dimensions/timelines?

>>87345051
Like they say, you can't get to heaven on a cross.

>>87345014
I knew in episode 1 that whatever she whispered to him was going to be important. He looks frightened by what she said.

THERE WONT BE A SEASON 4

>>87344929
>Final (((Dossier)))
He could milk this for the rest of his life.

>Twin Peaks: Lauras Diary
>Twin Peaks: Leland Palmer's memoirs
>Twin Peaks: Sarah Palmers Booze Catalog
>Twin Peaks: The Posthumous Dossier
>Twin Peaks: The Fat Trout Ledger

>>87345046

You mean Dougie was the first to get in the lodge?

>>87345071
That's roughly what I am thinking. Like ripples in a timeline caused by one tragedy.

the screams happen
with superimposition of her being dragged in the plastic bag (covers her face)

>>87345086
yes he looks frightened but what was it

>>87345014
>>87345038

Seriously, what the FUCK did she whisper that horrified him so much? Either time?

>>87344753
>coop realizes laura is the dreamer and that they're trapped in her dream because she died
>jeffries sends coop back in time to save laura so that she can wake up
>coop leads laura away from leo and jacques, thus saving her
>she disappears and cooper is sent to the lodge, since none of his time-traveling would've happened in the first place (see: back to the future)
>in the present day, cooper goes to look for laura with the 430 clue the giant gave him
>he's led to a teleportation zone, much like the one booper used, that will supposedly take him to judy
>he and diane are brought into judy's alternate reality, where he's richard, diane is linda, and laura is carrie
>coop reads the note from linda, sees judy's diner, and realizes he's inside of a dream
>coop takes laura/carrie to her house to see if she remembers that she's laura so she'll wake up
>coop is cucked by dream logic (laura, the dreamer (who has created judy so as to relinquish control), inserts "tremond" and "chalfont" to explain why she isn't laura)
>coop asks her what year it is so that she'll realize it's still 1989
>she screams upon realizing and wakes up

>>87345014
>>87345038
>old Laura talking to old Cooper

This is a good thing. In light of what he discovered with Carrie in Twin Peaks, Laura is then giving him new information as the credits roll. Cooper is an angel and all we can do is have faith in him. He's not stuck in a loop so there is still hope.

>>87345110
"Do not save me" is my guess t.b.h.

somebody please help me for I do not understand

>>87345025
It was sad in that after realising that he fucked up the timeline with Sarah not being in the old Palmer residence, Coop lost all of his confidence and felt lost (not in the humourous Dougie sense, but really felt like he doomed himself and Laura).

>>87345068
>but Lynch has already said he "would love to"
source

>>87345068
Who even wants a S4 after that. It would just end in yet ANOTHER cliffhanger while introducing even more new plot points. Even more of the actors will die during or post production.

Just do a few more episodes next year, with a Showtime producing standing over Lynch the entire time questioning if the scene he's about to film has any actual meaning or if it's because Lynch had an idea.

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>>87345068
Also, the company said it wants to do it to.

Don't worry low-/tv/irgins.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-XwgZSe0is

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>>87345123
Why do you think the same image is shown nearly without any colors or brightness at the end of E18

and with slowed down motion

>that scared look on Dale's face.

>>87344519
This seems like the right path.

>Coop saves Laura in 80's
>Judy gets mad, takes Laura to Black Lodge Shadow Realm
>Coop now has to get Laura out
>With Diane's help, they enter that threshold at 430 miles and the suffering of Diane reliving her rape brings Coop fully into the Black Lodge
(This also explains why Diane saw her doppelgänger, they're in the Black Lodge)
>Coop goes to find Laura to bring her out by reminding her who she really is.
>Thinks brining here to Twin Peaks will work
>Goes to House

My theory kinda falls apart here since Coop also seems lost at this point. Maybe Coop though the sex didn't work and thinks he's back in the real world?
But I definitely think the Sarah scream at the end was Judy fucking with Carrie, making her remember all the torment and now Coop and Laura are stuck in whatever Black Lodge world

u fuckers got lynched

>>87345110
"My mother is Judy"

>>87345135
2spooky4me

>>87344753
Season 3 was interwoven with a dream. Cooper eventually realised this and started to lucid dream. He used this ability to lucid dream to try and wake up (eg: find Judy, the explanation). Judy becomes aware of this and traps him further in the dream, where nothing is familiar and he can no longer wake up.

It's strange to see some of you guys arguing if it was a "good" or "bad" ending. It's obvious that it's all about the neverending struggle between good and evil with no 'winner' and possible yet ungraspable possibilty of breaking the cycle, that is the basis of all eastern beliefs and Lynch's philosophy by extent.

>>87345135
that expression

Judy is the pale horse.

>>87345150
Yeah it's clear twin peaks is never going to have a conclusion and I don't want to risk more garbage like Saitama vs Bob, I'd rather have it all end right here honestly

>>87344975
MIKE is only helping Cooper to obtain garmonbozia, remember that. He is now feeding off Judy's garmonbozia.

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>>87345150
>Lynch only does cliffhangers.
>Lynch works have no meaning and are just ideas.
All his movies have a plot. They are surreal, and absurdist, but there is method in the madness, and a plot can be found.

Like
>Lost Highway
>Sexually underperforming husband murders cheating wife.
>In jail he undergoes dissociation (I think it's some other, more specific, technical term) and fantasizes being the cucker rather than the cuckee, being young, getting the girl, etc...
>Of course, his dreams start unravelling.
>The end is him still in his delusion but being executed by electrocution.

>>87344396
Even if there is a season 4, it will only ask more questions in stead of answering them.

what the nigger

>>87345156
Things are worse than what he thought, but as long as Judy isn't more powerful than the giant there is still hope.

tpg btfo by pure lynch kino

>>87345223
I know. As much as I loved this season, I wish they just let it be after FWWM, which had an actual conclusion to Laura and Cooper's fates. They were both at peace in the red room.

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>>87345162
> the suffering of Diane reliving her rape brings Coop fully into the Black Lodge
wat

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>>87345162
>Maybe Coop though the sex didn't work and thinks he's back in the real world?

The dimension has clearly done a number on him to begin with. He suddenly realizes that he doesn't know the year, even though he should know he'd been time-travelling. He hasn't even noticed at any point or questioned it over a 100+mile journey.

>>87345169
>"My mother is Judy"
hey this is pretty good. did Cooper only remember what Laura whispered to him then and there in the last second? at the same moment as Carrie remembers everything about being Laura? was the terror in his face the realization that he led them right into Judy's trap? did Judy set that trap off in that last second when everything went to black?

but wasn't the whole point of that journey to defeat Judy? I was under the impression that Cooper was aware that he is in Judy's dimension the whole time.

I don't really know how I feel part 18. I know I don't feel disappointed, but I feel kind of hollow.

>>87345267
Well there was still like, DoppelCoop out there raping Audrey, Diane.

JOWDAY

>>87345014

What she whispers is probably a single, simple line that explains the entire ending.

>>87345169
Oh fuck they never explained Sarah Palmer being crazy as fuck did they.

>>87344919
This is actually 100% what I believe

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>>87345162
>But I definitely think the Sarah scream at the end was Judy fucking with Carrie,

I'm pretty convinced it's Jumping Man too, from the theory he's the frogbug, and Judy rides him as a vessel like BOB being carried by Mr. C.

>>87345037
nobody gets it, not even Lynch

It was a wild ride boyz.
I hope all the LYNCHED people in here could just gtfo. After thinking about it long and hard I don't want s4. It's actually a perfect ending.

>>87345305
she's judy and also the jumping man

How does pain and suffering relate to electricity?

just watched it
fuck you all

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Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that David Lynch started shooting Season 4 which will take place in the future. (Pic is evil Cooper in the Black Lodge)

is Cooper becoming like Jeffries?

>>87345162
>the Sarah scream at the end
what Sarah scream at the end? there is the audio track of Sarah calling out Laura's name, and then there is Laura/Carrie's scream.

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>>87345219
>MIKE is only helping Cooper to obtain garmonbozia

Lol, no.

>>87345334
electricity is literally in your head also it moves with the speed of light.

>>87345334
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Vader was killed by fore lightning.

>>87345346
EXPERIMENT
TELL YOUR CHILDREN NOT FIRE WALK WITH ME

>>87345354
Why did MIKE interrupt Jeffires-teapot explaining something to Coop?

Can't climb to heaven on the cross
One liar's promise drained the blood from my heart
Came a message in the dark
Offered the hand of a disembodied man
While I still had the chance

Now it's gone, gone
And I am who I am
Who I was I will never be again
Running out of sand

I stare at my reflection to the bone
Blurred eyes look back at me
Full of blame and sympathy
So, so close
Right roads not taken, the future's forsaken
Dropped like a fossil or stone

Now it's gone, gone
And I am who I am
Who I was I will never come again
Running out of sand

A drunk octopus wants to fight
Fearful of dreams, there'll be no sleep tonight
Fine at dinner, dead by dessert
Victim or witness, we're gonna get hurt
A fragile existence with echoes of wrath
I can't stop the bleeding nor the tears from thine eye
There's another us around somewhere with much better lives
With God as our witness but he won’t testify

Oh now it's gone, gone
And I am who I am
Who I was I'll never have the chance

Running out of sand
Running out of sand
Running out of sand

>>87345347
he is definitely as close to Judy as Jeffries ever was, only it's unknown whether Cooper will actually succeed. he has Laura now so he has a shot, at least.

So why the fuck did Cooper end up becoming part Mister C?

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>>87345361
Made me lol.

We've been talking about ep 18 a lot, but can we talk about ep 17?
What was the significance of the superimposed Coop head?
That scene in the sheriff's department was very corny and silly
>joke character killed the bad guy after learning ho cell phones work
>side character punched the evil spirit to pieces
>all the characters are there for a big celebratory ending
Was this shit real? Seemed like capeshit or a scooby doo episode.
Was superimposed headcoop being literal when talking about it being a dream?

Two birds with one stone. He was saving Laura by getting whatever vessel her soul inhabited in an alternative reality, and using her "good power" or whatever to go and combat Judy, which he knew was Sarah Palmer because Laura told him this in the dream.

>tfw there will never be a character as great as dougie jones ever again

>>87345287
That's how you're supposed to feel

>>87345374
DUALITY OF MAN IS LIKE 2500 OLD PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPT

FFS ITS THE EASIEST PART OF THE ENTIRE THING

>>87345288
No one ever cared about DoppleCoop.

>>87345334
Energy. It's symbolic, not literal electricity.

Remember DOugei sticks the fork into the socket in neutral. Then he's perfectly physically fine. Not literal electricity.

>>87345374
he is serious business coop because he is in a wholly evil domain

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>>87345392

From the moment BOB gets defeated and Coop's face starts to get superimposed over the footage it signaled that the S3 reality of the show is a fabrication, a dream.

Coop knows that SO he without pause exits the scene AND enters the lodge again where MIKE welcomes him with the magician's chant, which conveys to us and Coop that he is now a lodge spirit and can use the full range of abilities the lodge has to offer.

He goes to talk to Phillip and moves to a different part of the "dream". The dream reality is flexible and in flux and can be changed and rippled and so on. He does that but fails to snap Laura out of it. He basically needs for her to exit the dream as well since that solves his particular main task.

He fails at that since another major player (the Experiment) intervenes.

Then he goes back to the lodge to try again. We see him opening curtains with a commanding twirling motion of his hand, suggesting he already knows how to use the lodge magic.

But at this point things are a bit weird.

The two people you see driving at night are Richard and Linda. Richard and Linda drive to a hotel. Linda sees a vision of another version of herself standing by the hotel. This is Linda seeing a vision of Diane, not the other way around. Diane and Coop are trying to enter their world. Then Richard and Linda have sex. When Coop wakes up in a different hotel that is actually the real Cooper.

Sex scene kind of suggests some sex magic ritual since they're so cold and methodical about it, but even afterwards Coop doesn't seem to concerned about where Diane went, like she means nothing to him.

Coop from then on acts like he knows it's all a dream reality and doesn't particularly care about finesse and wants just to get the job done the most efficient way possible.

The end, again, suggests the Experiment trumps his powers and can alter reality faster than Coop can react and anticipate for it.

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>>87345426

This would explain why Jeffries has been in hiding and other take hosts while coop is is still trying to seemingly save everyone himself.

Also, for the people still confused about the year. If you were to stop reading this and go to Odessa, Texas right now and look at the sign this is exactly what it would look like. The next population census is in 2020.

Mrs. Tremond is also a lodge spirit. She has the power to override the contents and owner of a house just like her pseudonym, Mrs. Chalfont. The man she was talking to off-screen was her grandson, not some husband.

>Why was she saving them from Sarah Palmer? Sarah Palmer leaked through at the end. The Double R is intact.

Pic related is the moment we are told by Lynch directly that the "reality" of S3 we've seen thus far is a dream. In essence all of the "real world" of Twin Peaks is a dream and you awake from it by going to the lodge and becoming an inhabiting spirit there.

The overall dream is likely dreamt by the Fireman, who was shown to be floating in a passive, sleeping pose while doing his magic stuff.

The Experiment is a nightmare entity intruding upon that dream.

Audrey's situation in S3 is a microcosm of that.
She is existing in her own dream where some entity is providing her with what she needs and keeping her under lock and key, more or less. Once you become aware it's a dream it turns sinister.

Coop, after reaching Odessa, realizes that too. The dream is now friendly, its inhabitants are not worth his time and effort and he needs to simply complete the task to end it.

That's why he's very cautious, why he uses extreme violence against those rude fellas, why he doesn't care about the corpse and why he doesn't really waste time talking to not-Laura - who will wake up screaming at the end of episode.

None of it matters, it's all a fabrication. All he needs to do is snap her out of it and deliver her to the lodge.

>>87343862
>He looks nothing like Silva.

Now that's just not true.

>>87345347
Yep. He's now an intedimentional theosophist wizard. He's going to pecome a percolator next probably.

>>87345366
Because Jeffries is only Jeffries, and he was explaining something wrong. Jeffries even had difficulty discerning between Mr. C and the real Coop in his teapot final form.

>>87345162
>My theory kinda falls apart here since Coop also seems lost at this point
Coop thinks he has failed because Sarah doesn't live there, he does a Jeffries at this point because his brain is slightly fried due to time travelling and dimension hopping, then shit hits Carrie/Laura and he looks at her. Maybe he now realizes his plan was succesfull, maybe he now realizes it was flawed to begin with. Who knows.

>>87345350
That's what I meant.

I think I'm tired I haven't been up near chocolate pudding making time in a while

>no more [Electrical Cracking] to look forward to

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>All these people talking about alternate realities.
>Made either by MOM or inadvertently by Goop.

IT'S A DREAM/ILLUSION

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Tonight, I throw myself into and out of the red

>>87345426
>>87345445
While this makes sense on its own merit, I will choose this to not become my head-canon.

The "it's all happening in some metaphysical being's dream" kind of destroys the very human nature of the entire series.

>>87344605
me too, that fucking theme

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>>87345426
>>87345445

I knew "it's all a dream"fag was that GoT-loving tranny mod.

Your shitpost is in my thread.

>>87345392
>scooby doo episode
>shaggy's head fucking explodes halfway through the season

>>87345374
Either it's because he fully integrated Mr C part of himself (presumably Mr C was a separate entity even before 1989), or he left most of his positive qualities with new Dougie. New Cooper is more determined and less cheerful, but he's still a lawful and compasionate person.

I just wanted to point to the fact that Kyle played 6 distinct characters on this show. Fucking amazing.

>>87345505
not an argument kiddo

And what was about that box that turned into a sphere?

>Season 3 was just Cooper having to face his doppleganger in the Black Lodge to see if he was worthy enough for the White Lodge

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What does this mean?

I'm Croatian and I have no idea what Croatia may-may is.

>>87345534
it's deep and profound because random things are brought up once and never expanded upon in any way shape or form

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>>87345374
The Black Lodge dimension with Judy's Diner is tainted with Jua Dei's evil. Coop was forewarned about this somehow, that they wouldn't be the "same" there.

It's like an entire doppleganger world.

I think everyone is reading too much into certain scenes.

Half of the show was just Lynch had an idea and filmed it.

>>87345162

because it was a trick and now he's trapped in the Black Lodge forever

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>>87345533
Much like "it's all a dream", it wasn't intended as an actual argument.

did anything come out of the pin theory?

I think it's just some lame statement about the battle between good and evil (Judy and Laura respectively) going on forever.

It starts in episode 8 with the nuke giving either birth to Judy or giving her entrance into our world, and the fat bitch working with the giant to create Laura.

Phillip Jeffries shows off an 8, both pointing to the episode itself and in itself being a symbol for infinity, with a roving chunk of darkness passing through it. I think it's a symbol that represents that Cooper will never be able to truly just destroy all evil.

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>>87345135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVRliCUqLPM
Anyone know if this track was already released?

>>87345582

this could actually be true.

I think Kubrick did the same. We all have weird thoughts and dreams but most of the time they mean squat.

Directors only put them into their work for normies to theorize about it.

I would be happiest if this was false, but sadly, I think it's not.

Still, imo 2001. has a very deep meaning and it's woke AF.

>PROTIP
It has nothing to do with aliens

>not even a single real Coop comfy coffee drinking scene
I was just watching this for that, damn you David Lunch

I don't even care about Twin Peaks or our established characters at this point, I just want a spinoff dealing with this Blue Rose shit where FBI characters investigate small towns looking for mysterious shit and finding weird characters and surreal unexplainable activity.

>Audrey says that she doesen't recognize Charlie anymore
>Linda says that she doesen't recognize Richard anymore
is there a connection bros?

>>87345675
2001 also has a book you can read that explains the movie.

Even The Shining's weird ending with the photograph is MUCH easier to interpret than this clusterfuck of an ending.

>>87345678

go watch the X files faggit.

>>87345655
possibly this

BOB is evil that men do. Judy is that times 100.

whatever battle Coop is fighting is either futile, or he is extremely unlikely to succeed

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>>87344605
>>87345499
When Julee's the World Spins played at the end of S03E17 it made me cry, as it does every time it plays.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_l85-Ts7WY

I'm tearing up right now. Didn't think I'd get so attached to a show, bros. Especially not after watching mindless GoT. It's coming back, right, bros? Right??

Why does it feel like so much more happened in S1 despite there being half as many episodes?

>>87345709
GoT is coming back yeah

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>>87345418
How does energy relate to pain and suffering? How does emotion and good/evil motivation connect to the lodges?

>>87345691
Is this the story of the little girl who lived down the lane?

>>87345655
jeffries shows him 708

>>87345491
I agree with this

I think it's more like Coop becomes a time travel magician like the others in the lodge.

The way he travels to different points in time might be 'dream like' to him. But the universe is still 'real'.

Assuming the Fireman is god and dreaming the whole thing goes too deep into god theory like "Why is there still evil and a imperfect world if it's your creation?"

It also breaks the main themes of Twin Peaks, like the conflict of good and evil in the world and the white and black lodge 'fighting' each other.

>>87344961
typical murrican

>>87345709
>It's coming back, right, bros? Right??
I think it's unlikely. After thinking about it the show actually gives you a closure with episode 17 and then doesn't stop there and elaborate a little. A battle is won, but the fight seems more futile than before.

>>87345695
>2001 also has a book you can read that explains the movie.

shit mayne, don't trust that.

Kubrick kept Clarke in darkness. He was writing the book while Kubrick was filming the movie. Kubrick said next to nothing to Clarke.

Read "a false flag odyssey". I'm actually convinced that the monolith is just a movie screen.

the fireman is the dreamer. he is god

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>>87345726

>>87345761
>tfw we got this to experience what Half-Life 2: Episode 3 was supposed to be

>>87345722
Because in the original show, all the side plots were given a decent level of importance after the main plot
In The Return, you waste a bunch of time following side-plots that are dropped halfway through and you're basically called a retarded faggot for caring
So while both shows dedicate only a percentage of their runtime to the main plot, in the return you ultimately wasted your time

>>87345722
Because all of the scenes had characters doing stuff and talking.

Do you think any ABC executive would have allowed 5 minutes of someone sweeping the Roadhouse, or every episode to end on 2-4 minutes of a band playing.

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>>87345728
>How does energy relate to pain and suffering?

Maybe you should watch the show.

>>87345663
It hasn't

>>87344961

Typical Clinton supporter.

kek

Could've been the Audrey scenes been taking place in the Odessa universe? People there are different, but there are still some connections (Richard/Coop is working for the FBI), so it's not impossible for her to be still named Audrey in this other universe, tough she might not even be Horne. The scene where she wakes up in the white room would then take place at the same time as the final shot of ep. 18.

>>87345784
no offense but how old are you? you sound emotionally retarded so im guessing youre a teen or a plebian STEMroach

Why did Gordon pronounce Judy's "real" name as if it were Chinese?

>>87345764
>Kubrick kept Clarke in darkness. He was writing the book while Kubrick was filming the movie. Kubrick said next to nothing to Clarke.
Das rite, I hate when people try to direct people who ask questions about 2001 to the books when both books and the movie go for much different feels.

>I'm actually convinced that the monolith is just a movie screen.
Eh, you can interpret it that way if you really want :/

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When MIKE asks, is it future or is it past?, Laura does not appear at her usual seat in the Lodge and Cooper looks bit baffled.

>>87345804
Honestly I just think she's in some insane asylum or something, having gone crazy after Booper raped her. In her mind, she is living a reality of a mundane relationship and petty drama, while holding on to Twin Peaks as her home.

What was that box in argentina?

>>87345804
Possible.

Maybe when S3 comes out on BD it'll have an 18 hour version with scenes rearranged.

>>87345834
because thats the etymological origin. he literally explains that immediately

>>87345811
>STEMroach
Please don't actually believe this.
I'm not saying this to save my pride, if someone reading this is considering a degree, look up employability and salaries. STEM tend to dominate (along with lawyers/economists/etc).

Don't just "follow your dreams"; you'd be surprised by what you like. Don't be dumb.

>>87345850
Correct, and her disappearing in the woods was the same scream as when she got pulled from the Lodge.

>>87345675
Are there reactions from other directors about this ending yet?

>>87345582

I think the final scene is exactly the sort of shit Lynch would just come up with without a context with the scream and the lights and not have a reason to tie it into anything which is why Ep 18 makes no sense and sorta sucks

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>>87345749
>Assuming the Fireman is god and dreaming the whole thing goes too deep

Isn't the Fireman the silent lady's tulpa, like Mike and the Evolution of the Arm?

She seems like the passive participant, though. Like the Fireman outgrew her.

>>87345868
its just banter bitch relax

>>87345856

Plans for the wall the keep out the walkers from Mexico from getting in.

I don't want a season 4, I want a movie.

Think about it. FWWM took all the best parts of Twin Peaks and made a masterpiece. As much as I love season 3,you can't deny the there was a lot of drawn out and pointless scenes just to make it the entire 18 hour long. Another Twin Peaks movie would be like the best 3 episodes of the show compiled into film format

We need a movie,not another season. Hopefully some frog will fund it.

Season 3 was very "lynchian", which makes me wonder which parts of the show were made or written by Frost, what do you think?

>>87345114
this is the most coherent thing i read about the finale.

>>87345811
The whole point of the Return was to show how wanting to return to Twin Peaks was stupid, as Lynch stated multiple times through the years
Once Cooper gets to TP everything is resolved in a overly convenient and stupid way, in what is an obvious satyre of modern television, every single plotline is dropped halfway through with no resolution and Cooper travels back in time to make everything that happened in the show irrelevant, and then he is dropped in a new puzzle box with no way of getting out
You autists are so concerned about "lore" that you're missing the most obvious themes here, Lynch never changed his mind about Twin Peaks, he thought there wasn't anything left to tell and he wanted to show us that to a t by deconstructing the whole show the moment it "returned" to Twin Peaks
tldr the whole show is basically "fuck you coffee and pie fags"

>>87345893
Apparently it was shot near the beginning of filming.

>>87345864
What? No he didn't, he didn't say anything about where Judy is from, just that it's a negative force. We're inferring that it's some kind of demonic entity known by Chinese folklore purely on the basis of how he pronounced the name.

>>87345278
>I was under the impression that Cooper was aware that he is in Judy's dimension the whole time.
He definitely was. That's how he found Laura, working at Judy's diner.

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>>87345880
What was up with that?

Was the lodge time (at this scene) sync'd with that time too? So when she got FISH'D out (since she's like a BOB entity) she got fished out of all dimensions (reality in the past + the white lodge).

>>87345893
It was one of the first scenes that was shot in the production. It is one of the most important ones

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>>87345804
>Could've been the Audrey scenes been taking place in the Odessa universe?

I wondered this. Audrey being tormented by the Black Lodge makes more sense than an actual asylum, she woke up surrounded by electrical static in some no-space.

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So, we all excited for Sheryl's next film?

>>87345896
ok lol

>>87345920
etymology is about the origin of WORDS lad

>>87345910
Anything in Twin Peaks was probably Frost, minus the scenes that made no sense like Red, the zombie kid in the car, etc

>>87345114
Well.
Uhh.
I can't refute this for now.

Good one.

I can't brush off this constant feeling of sadness and frustration caused by the finale. Had the series ended on a more hopeful note I would have been fine but this just feels unnecessarily cruel. Fuck you, Lynch.

>>87345902

Twin Peaks: Dougie Jones: Origins

>>87345885
>Are there reactions from other directors about this ending yet?

You mean 2001. ending?

Who gives a fuck about other directors? Most of them will get on board to do a Marvel movie.

There are very few directors like Kubrick was. Lynch being one of them and actually heavily inspired by Kubrick.

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>>87345834
>Jew Dei

>Hebrew God

Hiding his powerlevel under a funny accent.

>>87345788
Fuck you, dick head

>>87345114
So why does OLD LAURA IN RED ROOM disapppear in early season 3

Should we "think" that episode 18 happens at same time as episode 1 or 2 where Laura gets pulled (like Carrier)

>>87345735
go back to plebbit

>>87345913
David Lynch is a horrible person.

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>>87345947
Gormubonzia milking.
>>87345950
fuk
>>87345968
I don't feel spiteful, but I kind of agree in that it made me unusually sad. Though I think it's more to do with the fact I've never felt so strongly about a show that I've become sad to see it go, even if temporarily.

>>87345924
then he shouldn't have looked so frightened at the end, imo. he should have known that they are in extreme danger, as he appears to fully realize up until that point.

what changes at the end, really? Sarah isn't where he was expecting to find her, but really it shouldn't surprise him that much.

>>87345894
Haven't heard that one but could very well be. They're obviously connected.

What was the point of Josie's scene?

>>87343989
Those numbers.... What do they show?
Portal numbers?
Depth level or the dream world? / ascension level of the detective?

>>87345735
>>87345994
I wen't over that, and Jeffrey doesn't do that at all.

He dismantles the TP symbol and makes it into a straight-lines-only 8, and then into a smooth 8.

>>87345947
What if Audrey is the dreamer of the Odessa universe and they're using her to trap Carrie?

>>87345913
Wrong. Lynch is a surrealist. If anything he has very sincere romantic tendencies. TP is most definitely not a meta commentary on fandoms. YOU are the autist.

So, maybe, it's about how things can't be fixed. Entropy and all that. 'The return', repetition, that's impossible. Cooper going back in time to grab Laura in the woods didn't happen. There's no time travel. That was the dream constantly alluded to in the episode. A long dream he woke up from when he heard the scratching noise and met Diane in the woods. Coop, then, is the dreamer.

He follows the clues he heard in this dream. As he would. Drives 430 miles to Odessa. Rather arbitrarily follows some signs that say Judy. Eventually starts upon Carrie Page, who bears a striking resemblance to Laura. But it's not really her (and this is why Laura and Carrie are different characters in the credits). But she's looking to escape, so she joins Coop anyway. Yet it's 2017 and Sarah Palmer hasn't lived in that house for a long, long time.. And Laura's still dead.

But whats doesn't fit is that voice and the scream..

And he has Bushnell's gun OH WAIT NEVERMIND

>>87346013
Showing episode 1's intro as is, having her Katherine and Pete show up since they're the one trio that couldn't show up in the new series.

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Tightrope,
In the big top

I'm still, but I can't stop

Can't see at night, what if I fall?

Without a net, where do I fall?

~

High ride, in the spot light

Can't fly, afraid of heights

Can't see the end, what if I choke?
There is no end, I'm gonna choke,

~

There's, no,
Way out,
Of this,
Circus,
Leaping,
Aspose,
They can't,
Hurt us
Cage with the lions, now
Begging for silence, now
Tryn'a escape
There is no way
Out of this circus...

Begging for silence, now

Tryn'a escape
There is no way,
Out of this circus...

Trapeze,
'Til it's in the air
~
No safety,
If this fabric tears
~
If I lose grip, where do I fall?
~
Gonna lose grip, nowhere to fall...

I'm casing
Bright lights,

Toying
With those coloured lights

If I can't run, where do I go?

I cannot run, where do I go?

There's, no,
Way out,
Of this,
Circus,
We paint,
On smiles
So they can't,
Hurt us
Cage with the lions, now
Begging for silence, now
Tryn'a escape
There is no way
Out of this circus...

Begging for silence, now

There's, no,
Way out,
Of this,
Circus,
We paint,
On smiles
So they can't,
Hurt us
Cage with the lions, now
Begging for silence, now
Tryn'a escape
There is no way
Out of this circus...

>>87346017
WOKE level

>>87345920
etymology means where the word is from brainlet

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>>87345218
Looks like this is the point Lynch was trying to make. Before ridicules boss fight, and plans to hunt down extreme negative force entities, there was seemingly unnecessary long way home.
Cooper get back in time, saving Laura's life, making the absolute conclusion to the story, which is turn up in poor result: Laura's autistic screeching.
Long way trough woods, and long ride from Texas, but only who make it home in the end is Dougie Jones, the filler subplot.
Jeffrey said you already met Judy. The ant head symbol. The answer.
Judy is "8" - infinity. The goal is the process.

>>87346037
Yeah sure. And I bet episode 17 immediately turning into a stupid shitty show where demons are fought in fistfights and then everyone is happy and everything is fine, right before destroying the whole thing from the ground up is just his romantic side showing and not the punctuation on what he has been saying repeatedly for the last 25, i.e. that there was nothing left to tell in twin peaks

>>87346017
each integer represents either a fixed and discrete universe/dream layer or a portal accessed by electricity (we see 3, 6, and 15 elsewhere)

>>87346084
The fact that more than 1 film was planned, how Mulholland Dr. is a scrapped Twin Peaks Audreye off shoot and other things completelly contradict your shitty thesis.

>>87346084
That's right. It's the counterweight for Coops sacrifice and is 100% absolutely sincere. We're talking about Mr. OH ANGELO who has spoken nothing but glowing love for TP sans what the network did to Season 2.

>>87346084
Just because youre too autistic to feel the emotions of Ep 1-17 doesnt mean David Lynch is or anyone else is. Just because he is willing to rip satisfaction away doesnt mean his intentions are as base as trolling le coffeefags. Grow up

>>87345913
>muh satire

I wish you faggots would just fuck off. The only satire ever shown in Twin Peaks was that crappy soap opera on TV. That's it. Fuck off you stupid cunt I'd rather comfyfags than you stupid pseudo intellectuals.

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>>87346147
This.

What if we are judy

That is why judy is never really shown. Judy has been with you all this time because it is you. We don't want cooper to save laura and the show to end.

>>87346100
or maybe you can use google and confirm that what I'm saying is true in <1 minute, I'm not your fucking dad, if you didn't catch the commentary in this new show on how everything that wasn't written by him was fucking stupid I don't know what to say
He has been doing this since the original finale, where all the idiotic subplots are solved in the most gruesome way possible and Windom Earle gets dominated by Bob
I get maybe it makes you feel bad but art is not meant to pander to you and Lynch never gave a shit about who Shelley Johnson is fucking this week or James having a love triangle with a milf and her husband's assistant

>>87346161
No, fuck this. This theory always pops up in every fucking open ending. Fuck you for also typing that garbage.

>>87346161
Judy has been shown in her whore of Babylon form, as well as in her host (Sarah).

What do you mean?

I don't understand why people are saying the ending is bullshit. It seems pretty obvious to me that it's showing that the man we thought was perfect and able to defeat what ever he needed to (Cooper) was actually deeply flawed and powerless.

It was similar to the ending to Season 2 where pefect FBI agent Cooper fails at the final hurdle and shows fear when faced with his doppelganger, except I found this ending much, much bleaker.

I still have a knot in my stomach and a sense of dread hanging over me.

>tfw season 4 is cooper jumping from dimension to dimension and he ends up in all other of lynch's films

>tfw at work with shit to do but you keep thinking about ep18

when will westerner stop rip offing asian mythology, religion and culture?

>>87346174
;)

>>87346180
>wait 25 years to get the same exact ending as last time, but this time the old show is erased from canon entirely
yep totally worth it and not bullshit at all

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What if we're the dreamer?
and the ending is is us waking up?

>>87346169
You are flatout wrong, considering the amount of artistic material Frost and Lynch created and had planned TP had lot to tell. L

>>87345784
What happened with that little fling Albert had with the forensic lady?

>>87345804
The "Roadhouse" band that played Audrey's Dance appeared in the Black Lodge in the EP 16 credits.

>>87346209
"Nip nong fing fong fangarangadingdong" - Davidu Rynchu

GIVE ME THE GORGONZOLA BOBE

Diane is The Mother you plebs

>>87346180
I feel like I came to in another dimension. I'm not really kidding. It's almost like some people report the drug salvia made some people think they'd outright been taken away and replaced.

>>87346222
see >>87346174

>>87346213
>The audience are the lodge spirits. W-we are the dreamer! We want to see the characters suffer and we consume their Garmonbozia (pain and sorrow), so in the end what the characters did is to escape the narrative! T-they escaped the narrative and now they're real people, they're not a dream anymore, and they're safe from us consuming their suffering! SO META.

>>87346180

You're going about it the wrong way.

At the end of S1 Cooper got shot. That situation is resolved in S2.

At the end of S2 Cooper gets trapped in the black lodge. That situation gets resolved in S3.

At the end of S3 Cooper is stuck in an altered reality. That situation will also get resolved.

What you don't take into account is that Cooper went from a brilliant FBI agent to a literal magician of the lodge recognized and helped by MIKE and the Fireman, who as far as we know is the dream-creator of our entire reality.

I'd say that's quite a promotion. And with the promotion came new tasks he needs to work on.

One of them is this Laura thing which for all we know could save or destroy our entire reality since she was supposed to be a hard counter for Judy. Cooper is on the job and because of him Laura remembered who she is.