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>>87273520

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Bajoran workers, your attention please.

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>'CA̵U̡SE ͠I͞'V̵E G̷O̷T̸ F͡AITH̨ O̴F ́T̷H̡E ́HE͜EEA̸A̸AÀA͟R͜T͢,͢ ͡I'͝m going wh͠e͝re my ͟hea͞rt wi̡l͠l̢ ta̸ke̸ me̵, ̶I͢'͡V͝E͜ G̶OT̸ ͞FA͢I͡T͟H̢ ́TO͘ ͢BÉLIĮII͞I̛EE͜E̶E̡EEEVE,͞ ̵I c̀an͟ ̴do an̨yth̸įńģ, I'V͟E ĢOT̨ S̡TRENG͟T̷H ͝OF TH̨E ̀S̀OOOO̸OO͜O̧ŲUUUU̴U͝U͘U̕ÚU̴L,͡ ̛n͜o̴ ̛on͡e̷'s ̶gonna͡ ̀b͟e̶nd o͟r br͡eak ̕m͝e,͠ ͜I̡ C͞AN REA̛CH̷ ANY͡ ST͢AAAAAA̡AAAAAA̡R͡, ̵o͘h͟ ̷I'v̶ę ̸got f̢ait̨h́ ̨(I͢'v̡e ̀g̴ot I'v̀e ̴g͝ot͞ I'̡v͟é g̸ot͝)̢, I̸'ve ̵g͢ot͜ ́fai̸aìaia̷ia͠i̷t̕h̢, f͝a͡it̵h ̀of̡ ͜th͢e h̀eaęaear̶t̸!

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>>87273672
*blocks my path*

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>>87273626
It was worth it to post my second trek general.

My first was the enterprise destruction thread a couple days ago.

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What are some essential Garak episodes? I watched DS9 back when I was young, and he and the Cardassians were my favourite part of it. I want to watch some after finishing TNG.

>>87273839
Just start the whole series from the beginning. Episode #2 or #3 (depending on if you're watching in production order or airdate order) is about Garak.

>>87273923
Thanks. I'll settle in for the long haul, hoping for Garak or any Cardassians each ep.

>>87273984
DS9 season 1 is kinda weak, but you have to power through it. The penultimate episode of season 1 (Duet) has the best Cardassian guest star of the whole series. Good luck.

>>87273984
Like above anon said S1 is a bit weak but overall still stronger than TNG s1, and then it only gets better with each year. Plenty of Cardy shit in there.

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>>87273696

>>87273839
Past Prologue
Duet
Cardassians

For some early season stuff

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>>87273730
Fucking spoonheads.

>>87273984
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>>87274253
>DS S1 is weak

What makes you say that? Sure, it had some rather inconsequential episodes (as had the followeing seasons) and most of the characters (apart from Odo, Quark and O'Brien) were basically still non-characters by the end of it.

But apart from that, there was already quite a lot of depth to it. Actually, the whole premise – difficult diplomatic relations, dealing with power vaccums, reconstruction, personal trauma, religous leaders basically providing a form of government – is really more relevant today than it was during the time the show first aired (with the real-life influences back then obviously ranging from the Iranian islamic revolution of 1979 to the fall of the Soviet Union) and they're not discussed in a naive or inconsequential manner but with a very realistic outlook.

While the later seasons were richer in plot, a lot of that depth unfortunately got lost.

I've always been annoyed by Troi. You know because her job was to state the obvious in many situations. But on a rewatch of TNG I'm like extra annoyed by realizing that Guinnan does a lot of the *real* counseling to the crew and she totally could have done the rest in the rare occasion that Troi does her job. It seems redundant in terms of the show to have two council/wise type characters. Why in the hell didn't they just delete Troi early on?

>>87275251
Hey, this actually looks good when you get rid of the shitty music.

>>87275226
I'm halfway through season 1 and I haven't seen her do any counseling at all.

>>87275251
>>87275306
>we want the chinese audience!

>>87275251
Holy fuck this show looks bad. I know JJ Trek movies get a lot of flak, but at least they visually look like updates of TOS. Bright and distinct uniforms and lots of light and minimalist interior design. STD just tosses that shit all out the window in an attempt to look like Mass Effect.

Also holy shit any time that Asian lady opens her mouth to speak. Jesus god make it stop.

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>>87275375
Well, shit. looks like I lost the warp-effects compilation.

>>87273765
Any ideas for future threads? Think you might venture outside of the strictures of "generals" one day?

>>87275226
>>87275387
You know that Troi was basically supposed to be Tasha until very shortly before they started shooting.
Looks like, at some point, they had to decide which of the characters to kill off and Tasha obviously lost out to Troi.

>>87275494
I know about that, but it isn't a strictly "either/or" situation. They still could have written off Troi after killing Tasha. Literally all she does is dilute screentime from characters that aren't garbage.

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>>87275448
Oh yeah. I'll probably do a "Star Trek V is kino" edition with pic related.

>think you might venture outside the strictures of generals
I've made lots of threads here. Just never done a general until a couple of days ago.

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>>87275226
Note how they basically hang a lampshade on it in the final episode when Q accuses Picard of having listened to Troi's "pedantic psychobabble" for seven years.

troi is picards preemptive mutiny alarm. The most important job on the ship.

>>87275770
the initial sequence was actually rather promising... of course EVERYTHING about the movie took a real nosedive right afterwards.

>>87275770
Looking forward to it!

>I've made lots of threads here. Just never done a general until a couple of days ago.
Any non-general Star Trek threads? In any case, would you mind linking to the best threads you've made here? No homo, but I really like you and I really like your threads.

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>>87275829
Agreed, although the movie is kino pretty much throughout.
>>87275950
I don't think I've ever made a non general Trek thread.
>would you mind linking to the best threads you've made here
I thought they got lost forever after they leave the archive. If there is a way to find old threads I've made I don't know about it.

>>87275950
Also
>I like you
Someones likes old Crusherposter, huh? Interesting.

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>>87275251
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>>87275375
wew this looks terrible. the JJ abrahams disease is spreading throughout hollywood

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Alright lads, how would you have fixed VOY?

>>87276324
They should've given Seven a science uniform right from the start, they gave all the fucking terrorists uniforms.

>>87276259
I don't really find Gates attractive but the butthurt and memes left in the wake of posts about her is quality amusement.

>>87276328
>"we've got to write a frenchman that isn't captain picard.
>make him eat baguette and be a winemake.r"
thanks a lot burgers for this totally new insight on french culture.

>>87276552
siskos dad should have made hamburgers.

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>>87274566
Don't forget The Wire

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>>87276669
Or shrimp.
You can do a lot with shrimp.

What's the best episode of Voyager and why is it Course: Oblivion?

>>87275251
>>87275306
The camera work is pretty dynamic. A little overdone, but we'll see how the full episode pans out. Definitely JJ Trek visual direction, though.

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>>87275251
>>87275306
>>87275375

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>>87275251
>>87275306

this is something unironically I can cookup with blender

>>87277522
Everything looks like JewJew Abrahams now

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>>87276324

Wow, these last several posts haven't been good at all! Can we get back to earnest discussion?

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>>87278176
This chart is actually pretty good, most alignment charts I've seen are complete crap. It's a real shame that Dukat actually fits into chaotic evil, the writers kind of ruined him starting about halfway through season 6. It's genuinely hilarious how cartoonishly evil he became, it was entertaining to watch but not at all in keeping with how well written he was up until that point.

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>>87278176
>Lawful Good

>>87278267
they were mad that people actually liked dukat so they made him go full chaotic. plus when jadzia's actor wanted to quit they just made him hill her and he went full evil

>>87277140
I guarantee that a Creole chef was pimpin' the shrimp.

Is it okay to be racist and also like Star Trek?

>>87275251
>dutch angles and lenseflare: the show

>>87278410
go ahead you won't be the first terran empire apologist to be found in trek threads

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>>87278348
Jadzia's actress didn't want to quit. She wanted a reduced role, like Nog or Garak or Martok. She was forced to quit by Rick Berman.

>>87278410
Only if you hold yourself to idealistic consistency.

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>>87278410
Well there's certainly a place for you in the Federation.

>>87278234
Where's this from? GRIS ain't givin' me shit.

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Waifu. A 21st century term popularized on Japanese Animation, or Anime, image boards back on the primitive world wide web. If I were to use it in a sentence I would say "Captain, you are waifu a shit."

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>>87278595
Too bad.

>>87278410
Only if you have alien scum

But Vulcans are cool

>>87278309
Changlings are always lawful. Odo just became lawful neutral later in life. Actually, I would argue that he was always lawful neutral. He did evil acts when the Cardassians called it Terok Nor and he did good acts when the Federation called it ds9. But no matter, Odo strove for order.

Ensign, what is he probality of Discovery sucking ass?

>>87278638
So Data is fully functional, right? That means his butthole gets loose and floppy after hundreds of repeated plowings, right? Becuase some people are into that and that's the way buttholes normally function.

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>>87278546
Section 31 isn't humanocentric, it's Federation-centric.

>>87278663
>choosing to live like a human gives them superior strength, toughness, smarts, and ears, as well as psychic abilities
>choosing to live as a vulcan gives them superior logic due to comparatively quiet human-influenced emotion
Vulcan/Human is the future.

>>87278660
Could you post them all por favor?

>>87278660
HOW TO FIX STD

Step 1: Replace the entire cast with Jeffrey Combs.

STD is now fixed.

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>>87278877
>section 31 isnt humanocentric

You don't think that they'd chuck any race under the bus, if necessary, to protect humanity?
When was the last time you saw a non-human in Section 31?

>>87278730
Sensors are picking up a body of organic material, approximately 12 AU in diameter, corresponding to... Fecal matter. I advise changing course towards the Orville system, maximum warp

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>>87278730
>he probality
Posts like this make me optimistic for Discovery, because I see that the biggest haters are Pakleds.

>>87278907
>tfw STD won't ever use him

>>87278478
Interdasting, any more where this came from? Poor Behr, you could tell he really could've kept it together. He's my ds9 guru.

>>87278908
Given that all we've seen of Section 31 is one operative and two toughguys I'd don't think there's enough information to conclude that a Starfleet organization isn't trying to protect Starfleet.

>>87278935
Get the book.

https://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Year-Mission-Generation-Uncensored-Unauthorized/dp/1250089468

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>>87278828
I don't know. I'm a Tripfag not a doctor.

>>87278908
that would be stupid of them to not include super logicians like the vulcans or empath and telepaths like the betazoids considering their mission

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>>87278909
>implying Orville won't be worse

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We have the /fatriker/ meme but what about /fatkirk/?
Although he was sexy sometimes.

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>>87278908
This. Section 31 is explicitly Stafleet and historically a human organization. They predate any significant human-alien alliances.

There is no Section 31

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>>87278877
"No."

>>87278958
>Given that all we've seen of Section 31 is one operative and two toughguys
Watch Enterprise

>>87279036
I liked the Deltans and regret that they only showed up in TMP.

>>87279148
I made a mistake watching ENT before VOY. I actually enjoyed quite a lot of ENT but VOY is wearing me the fuck down.

>>87278176
Is Sisko REALLY Chaotic Good? Redpill me

>>87278410
Trek was created by idealists who didn't know, believe or care about things like race differences, dysgenic breeding, natural antipathy or indeed the entire fact that human behaviours is genetically determined to a large degree. Basically they operated under entirely wrong premises as to what humanity really is (or indeed, sentience as a whole... consider the endless stories about robots "finding their humanity"... but I digress).
That doesn't mean we can't enjoy the stories, the general optimistic setting, or the enlightened morals. We have to accept that we are what the trek authors would consider the primary obstacle to their utopia... except we, of course, know that it could never become true and would rather live in reality than chase a dream. So yes, I did and do like star trek despite having become a racist by any sense of the word since I first watched it. It does not faze me because my opinions are well founded and reflected and I can stand being at odds with some admittedly well meaning sci-fi authors.

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>>87279140
C'mon, do a nigga a solid.

>>87279247
>pic related

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>>87278958
>he hasnt seen ENT

>>87279036
>trusting other species mind powers
Humanity has its own psychics and autistic human machines.
Remember Bashir & Co?

>>87279086
Nice to see that someone knows their shit!

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Best girl

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>>87279247
His solutions to the Maquis problem and the Romulan problem were tough pills to swallow but ultimately the correct solutions for the greater good.

I actually like the addition of Section 31 to Trek lore. Fight me.

>>87279247
have you watched the show ? the man is on the verge of breaking down and even sometimes break down Am I speaking about Avery Brook or his character ? We may never know...

>>87278478
>The virgin producer
>The Chad tits-man

>>87278410
no that means you're probably a white male.

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>>87279413
Are rumours of Avery Brooks' insanity real or fake?

THEY'RE REEEEAAAAAAAL

>>87279312
I always assumed that Trek operated under the premises that the Eugenics Wars, WWIII, and their aftermaths acted as a eugenics programs and that its view on sentience was that after a certain level of complexity the only thing that really changes in a mind is storage, processing speed, and memory access ability.

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>>87279465
>Team Big Tits: Rick Berman
>Team Little Tits: Harve Bennett

>>87279326
yes but autists like Bashir are an exeption in the human population while they are the rule in vulcan society plus I don't recall any human having empath or telepathic abilities

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>>87278478
>Ira Steven Behr
>dude that just wants to write sci-fi

>Rick Berman
>sleazy Hollywood producer with a great love for tiddies

>>87279529
Is it racist to have the opinion that Avery Brooks is a very low-IQ individual who is barely any different from an ape in a zoo?

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best uniforms

>>87279312
>the entire fact that human behaviours is genetically determined to a large degree
Oh boy, here we go. /pol/ tier genetics.

>>87279312
God bless you anon. Our people will rise

>>87279701
Niggers nig, gypsies gyp, jews jew, get over it

>>87279598
Wasn't Bashir an upgraded windowlicker?

>>87279667
Yes, actually. Have you really been doing this for 7 years?

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>>87279598
>bashir is an exception
Section 31 doesn't need 500 people with abilities though, they only need a few.
I think it's safe to say that there's enough to go around out of the billions of humans that exist in the Federation.

>>87279746
>having a day of the rope jerk off in the middle of the trek general
lads, please, you've got a board for this

>>87279667
Its kind of a stupid opinion but your entitled to have it

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>>87279598
>no human with empath or telepathic abilities

Watch TOS pleb.

>>87279803
Yeah. He couldn't tell a cat from a dog at 6 years old.

>>87279803
Allegedly, theirs always the possibility that he was fine just average and his parents couldn't accept that

>>87280142
that's kind of an hilarious theory

>>87280209
Its sort of head-canon, but Julian does suggest it, so its possible, also makes his mirror duplicate make sense

>>87280142
no, it was clearly stated that he was clinically retarded and failing in class due to his limitations and so his parents decided to gie him an upgrade

>>87280278
Yes by his parents, real trust worthy source right there

if being super smart is such a problem can't they just dumb him back down?

>>87280278
He probably just had ADHD or something.

>inbred arab needs super science to not be dumb

Woah, didn't know DS9 was so problematic

Tell me about Skrain

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>>87280438
Shhh,
I don't think the normies know about the disturbingly high levels of consanguinity among Arabs and North Africans which results in low IQs and high levels of aggressiveness.

TAIN?

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I always forget how slave-like O'Brien is treated as in DS9.

Thankless job.

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>>87280625
He'd complain if he wasn't trying to maintain a low profile for his Section 31 work.

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>>87279529
it's faaaaake

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Mr. Odo, I'm Obsidian Order.

>>87280625
Didn't O'Brien murder thousands of individuals with the transporter?

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>>87279968
>>87279598
Dr. Pulaski used to be a telepath.
But people kept asking what she was smirking about, so she decided to become a doctor instead.

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>>87280857

>>87280864
Transporters don't kill people. Maybe you're thinking of some other scifi franchise.

>>87280999
not him but I think there is a case to be made for either side.

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>>87278410
>IT'S NOT A PERSON, DAMMIT, IT'S A NIGGER!
I didn't know they had Raimi on Star Trek. I can kinda see why they never asked him to come back.

>>87280999
Which Riker then?

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>>87280918
she's still smirking.

>>87278660
>>87278907

I want a Star Trek series were the entire cast is played by Jeffery Combs in different makeup

>>87281154
requesting a .webm of data's reaction to her having to acknowledge data as a sentient being/person

>>87281048
We see from Barclay that consciousness is maintained during the entire transportation process. No death there.

>>87281105
Ask the anomaly in the planet's atmosphere. That's what created him, not the transporter.

>>87279413
>>87279529
It's not insanity. It's just a jazz thing, you know.

>>87279701
look up the warrior gene and arab consanguinity etc. a lot of human behaviour is genetic. it doesn't give me any pleasure to say that.

>>87280918
>>87281154
If that's not a resting douche face, then I don't know what is
>my face is permanently sarcastic

>>87281298
I actually liked her for that permanent smirk... or maybe I liked her because as opposed to Beverly, Pulaski was an actual CHARACTER.

>>87279413
>>87279529
>>87281278
Brooks was just fucking with Shatner. Probably hates Shatner's guts and was stoned off his ass. He acts pretty normal in his convention appearances.

>>87281244
>We see from Barclay that consciousness is maintained during the entire transportation process. No death there.
Yes, but coming from a technical point of view, we see how this is impossible based on how Star Trek describes how the transporter works.
They might say they feel some tingling or see stuff but you wouldn't be able to think or have consciousness until all of your molecules (or most) were back in their original place inside of your brain.

>>87281244
Why are you digestposting at me? I only wanted to know which Riker had the original's soul.

>>87278971
I would proudly serve under her. If you get my drift?

>>87281379
Yeah, I do agree that she was more interesting than Beverly Crusher. A Bones knock-off is a much better alternative to a Crusher.

>>87281411
Will Riker has the soul, Tom Riker didn't which is why he became a filthy traitor

>>87281405
That episode is canon and your theories about how the transporter works are only headcanon.

>>87281411
Perhaps you'd be happier with some other franchise, such as Star Wars. I'm sure they have a lot to tell you about your immortal soul.

>>87281535
Tom Riker would've been the one to become captain though.

>>87281163
everyone does

>>87281048
no there isn't,m you have to reject everything 5 different shows explained, and then make up a bunch of shit

>>87281558
>That episode is canon and your theories about how the transporter works are only headcanon.
Why are you evading my point? I never said it wasn't canon, but you do agree that the Star Trek transporters break you down into atoms so how is it a man is capable perceiving something if half of his brain isn't in tact?

>>87281588
how so? are you saying the captains are souless? well maybe janeway

>>87281650
Does the transporter not break you down into trillions of atoms?

Puzzled at how a guy could see sub-space monsters without his parietal lobe.

>>87281447
Her interaction with Picard was verys much unlike your typical Bones-Kirk interaction and she was actually about to develop into more than a Bones-knockoff (having accepted Data as a lifeform and what not), but just then Season 2 ended. Bummer.

>>87281658
actually its just molecules not atoms

>>87281720
molecules and yea, maybe if they had shown a visual beam of light like stargate you wouldn't be having this bout of tsim

why do nu-males hate Crusher so much?
is it because they never met nice women so they think that all women must be fapbait or annoying bitches like Female Bones?

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Are pregnant women allowed to use transporters?
Isn't the reason old man Picard was so insane because he used the transporter too much?
Why is dementia so high among old Starfleet personnel when they have such advanced medical technology?

Don't trust transporters man.

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Hottest crewmember

>>87281793
It's not autism when I'm just pointing out how the two don't jibe. But Star Trek is filled with inconsistencies I just think it's necessary to point out.

>>87281658
>so how is it a man is capable perceiving something if half of his brain isn't in tact?
It makes no difference that you can't understand how it's possible. Star Trek still says that perception and consciousness maintained for the whole journey, regardless of whether or not the viewer understands how.

>>87281870
Yes you can with preggers, Bones would advise against it ho

>>87278478
What's really telling is that Behr doesn't even try act sceptical, he's just annoyed he didn't tell Berman to quit being another Jewish Hollywood pervert.

>>87281885
two what? barclay clearly saw something before he was fully dematerialised, or maybe the process hadn't really begun yet, you don't know the exact point you switch from one location to the next

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>>87281872
Red > Blue

>>87281870
Besides being diluted by constant transporter use, Picard was mindraped by the borg, Q, ferengi pink balls, that space probe with the flute, that energy cloud thing, and also he volunteered for a couple mind melds.

>>87281870
>Isn't the reason old man Picard was so insane because he used the transporter too much?
No, his condition was genetic.

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Star Trek would be better as a whole if there wasn't so much time travelling.

Voyager killed it for me when they confirmed Starfleet explores time in the future. Fucking stupid desu

>>87281935
Lad, no one will take you seriously here if you continue to carefully omit valid observations and use sarcasm as a defense mechanism.

Star Trek says many things that don't jibe. That's my entire point that if a machine breaks a man down into his constituent elements then maybe the show should rectify this incongruity before writing an entire script around a show.

So I guess you disagree with canon now.

souls are canon in Star Trek
get over it you fedora lords, no one dies in transporters

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>>87281942
>>87281984
>>87281995
Do. Not. Believe. Their. Lies.

>>87281980
They don't transport a man whole. It's not conceivable that someone could be conscious missing most of their brain. The writers didn't address this in any appreciable manner during the episode so my point stands and always will stand since the show ended 23 years ago

>>87281740
>>87281658
>>87281558
>>87281885
>>87281935


To resolve the dispute, there is actually a "half-canon" answer – not headcanon and not stated onscreen – namely the TNG S3 writers' technical manual or writers' bible, which states that transporters work on a "quantum level", which allows them to store information such as memories etc.

See:
http://www.trekcore.com/specials/albums/trekdocs/tng-writers-tech-manual/S3-Tech-Manual-23.jpg

http://www.trekcore.com/specials/albums/trekdocs/tng-writers-tech-manual/S3-Tech-Manual-24.jpg

>>87282063
>valid observations
not him but theirs nothing 'valid' about your transporters kill nonsense, its literally all in your head, and whats worse your completely denying the in-universe explanations, plural cause they explained how transporters work a lot, and your choosing to ignore it

>>87282121
you don't have a point, your choosing to ignore the explanation given by the show in favor of your head-canon

>>87282156
I never said transporters kill, you're mixing me up with the original poster. My main point is that their design and what we see on screen do not coincide.

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>You will never get NOGGED

Life is suffering

>>87279038
If queers hate it, it will be great.

>>87282195
>you don't have a point, your choosing to ignore the explanation given by the show in favor of your head-canon

You aren't citing any in-universe explanations against me because they describe the transporter just as I did on multiple episodes.

>>87282063
Nobody takes you seriously when you try to pull this "2 Smart 4 Trek" shit. It doesn't matter that the audience can't explain how transporters work. We also can't explain how warp drives work or universal translators. It's fiction, and if the writers say that transporters work without killing people (and that they transport without disrupting consciousness) then we just have to accept that the Star Trek universe works in a way where this is possible.

>>87282207
Only in your mind

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>>87282041
>if there wasn't so much time travelling.
Fun Fact" The epi Assignment Earth was a backdoor pilot episode. Meaning Roddenberry was trying to get it off and going thru Trek

>>87281411
They both did.

>>87282250
your forgetting that in star trek, consciousness and the brian aren't always the same thing

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>>87281872
Why not just post the hottest chick in the entirety of TOS?

>>87282275
it seems like it could have been a fun show

>>87279323
there's my nigga again.
hey what's up my nigga
lets all nigga tonight

Who won in the end in the Star Trek timeline? Jesus, the Jew God, Muhammad, or L Ron Hubbard or someone else?

It's pretty much canon that the transporter kills the original and creates a copy.
That's why there were two Rikers.

>>87282255
Thank you for basically admitting defeat by going the "dude it's all fake though!" route. I like how you took the third path because your ego couldn't address a valid point.

I also like how some Trek fans get autistic about shit but then when it suits their arguments they flip into "well it was on-screen, it doesn't matter what's wrong or right".

>>87278478
can we get a comparison of seasons or episodes where jadzia's tits grow from one episode to the next (or season)

for research purposes

>>87282397
Jesus, he's referenced multiple time in TOS, and they've even got a chapel on the enterprise

>>87282424
If you’re wondering how Barclay stays conscious
And other science facts
Then repeat to yourself "It’s just a show,
I should really just relax."

>>87282397
Darude – Sandstorm

>>87282259
What's in my mind? You're telling me that the transporters don't break you down into individual molecules/atoms? We see this stated on-screen many times. Get over yourself.

>>87282067
you wouldn't transport a soul

>>87282424
we are 'admitting' your an idiot, please re-read that anons post

>>87282474
>>87282259
>>87282207
>>87282195
see
>>87282123

>>87282474
It's only in your mind that this disrupts consciousness.

In the real world, that would disrupt consciousness. But Star Trek isn't the real world, so in Star Trek it doesn't.

>>87282462
Actually, you shouldn't post if you can't address valid points against your criticism. Have the balls to sit down when someone points out how the show presents to us two disparate sets of facts that don't agree with each other. And I agreed with you that Barclay in the transporter is canon.

>>87282474
and we are done, transporters don't kill consciousness is maintained, this is explained in the show, if you don't like it thats your fault

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>>87282491
Transporters can't transport souls, so over time almost all Federation citizens lose their souls. Is that why they're all atheist?

And what happens to the lost souls that go missing when people are transported, did they all get together and form Nagilum or something?

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>>87282156
Transporters kill you is a reddit meme to perpetuate post-modernism.
"Who cares if you fuck a tranny, you've been beamed 20 times!"

>>87282552
How about this: You shut your mouth or I'll kick your teeth down your throat and shut it for you.

>>87282523
>It's only in your mind that this disrupts consciousness.
You keep omitting my main point because you can't address it so please stop posting. Your false indignation in these threads is obvious.

>>87279667
The word "racist" is overrated, because it's only natural, and underused, because it's rarely used to describe non-whites.

>>87282603
It's literally the oldest /tv/ Trek meme. It was the fourteenth thread on /tv/ and the first Trekthread.

>>87282582
But why are you telling me something I've already agreed with?
Your short-term memory is fading, please seek neurological help.

>>87282603
I know, so Peter about those TPS reports?

>>87279667
Nah, it's just stupid.

>>87282552
But the show only presents us one set of facts: Consciousness is maintained. The show never presents anything else, that was just your imagination.

>>87282605
>How about this: You shut your mouth or I'll kick your teeth down your throat and shut it for you.
Not happening anytime this life. Have to catch my Kotra on the next one ;)

>>87282603
if it didn't bother you originally when watching you'd don't have enough autism.

Why are people shitting up this thread?
Fuck you, seriously.

>>87282708
I read a stupid "philosophy of star trek" book before watching and decided from the outset that consciousness is probably maintained.

>>87282680
>But the show only presents us one set of facts: Consciousness is maintained. The show never presents anything else, that was just your imagination.
The show presents us an entire array of supporting facts on what makes the transporter work, all of which give us the description of a machine that breaks us down into a beam of all of our atoms.
See I can repeat myself over and over like a dumbass as well.

>>87282718
Raargh! RAAAARGGHGHHGHH!

>>87279701
The world is very lucky that whites are predisposed to compassion and restraint. Whites, however, not so lucky.

>>87278463
fucking this
looks dogshit aesthetically

>>87282762
>all of which give us the description of a machine that breaks us down into a beam of all of our atoms
And that is not a separate set of facts, because the writers say that it isn't a separate set of facts. The writers say that this breakdown does not disrupt consciousness, so there is only one set of facts.

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>>87282749
same

Transporters don't kill you because it takes disassembles and reassembles the same exact matter.

Also, your body constantly replaces its cells with new ones. OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL DED

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>>87282718
I'll stop posting if selective memory Thompson just admits how my point shows a gross incongruity of two canon sets of facts.

He's stuck in a repeating loop though.

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>It's a We Spent All Our Budget On Alien Makeup This Time So We Can't Afford Any Sets-episode

>>87282906
wrong thread

>>87282906
Holy shit T H I C C

>>87280918
That's one woman who looked old even when she was young.

>>87282842
>The writers say that this breakdown does not disrupt consciousness, so there is only one set of facts.
>speaking for 100s of people, some of who probably never shared a room with each other

You're about to veer off the course in an endless tail chase.

If I'm told a boat ride to the Bahamas entails chilling on a buoyant vessel that churns through the Atlantic and then it turns out we actually floated across the water via a water plane, and then I'm told "Well technically you did go on the boat and the plane" why am I not allowed to point it out?

You can swerve out of this endless roundabout, I know you can do it.

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>>87282775
Every other race has committed more genocide per capita (adjusting for technological ability to commit genocides) than white people.

>>87282845
why didn't maddox take data apart using the transporter?

>>87282915
Please never stop posting. You are a gem, and your aggressive attitude is essential to these threads.

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>>87282965
Come to Quark's, Quark's is fun
Come to Quark's, don't walk, run!

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>>87283100
Thanks bruv.

>>87274566
>duet
How was this essential for Garak, he wasn't even in it.

>>87273839
The Die is Cast.
In Purgatory's Shadow/By Inferno's Light.

>>87283176
I don't know. I just tell people to watch Duet.

>>87283156
quark meets a fellow space jew

>>87283075
What you're posting is completely irrelevant.

The physics of the Star Trek universe work differently from the physics of the real life universe. Particles and molecules interact differently in Star Trek from how they interact in real life. In Star Trek, because the physics are different, breaking a person down into pieces and transporting those pieces does not disrupt consciousness because those pieces still have full and uninterrupted interactions with each other.

There was never a second set of facts. There was only you not understanding how Star Trek physics work, because you desperately want them to be identical to physics in the real world. But they can't be the same, because if the physics were the same then they wouldn't have warp drive, and we wouldn't have Star Trek, so your desperate wish was always doomed to end in disappointment.

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>>87283156
That episode contained important lessons about gambling and not leaving your men behind.

>>87283156
>Look, the first visitors from the Gamma Quadrant
>Oh shit, they all look like Yanni!

>>87283075
>>87283299
>what is a matter stream
The person is still intact, but they are in a different state.

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>>87283299
If you've ever wondered what the difference was between Autism and Asperger's, here's the line.

>>87278478
God I'd have killed for Jadzia witha pair of huge bimbo boobs.

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I want to _____ Kirsten Dunst

>>87282789
I remember FS used dutch angles a fair bit, but their it had a purpose, mostly to show how batshit crazy poor Chriton was, I doubt this has any reason for using them

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>>87283299
>The physics of the Star Trek universe work differently from the physics of the real life universe
No they don't. The entire show is based on our galaxy, uses real-world scientific principles and measurements of stars, speed, light and velocity to create a pseudo-futuristic technological world. You keep referring to the noun "Star Trek" like an exacted and defined participle. You've quietly dismissed my point and are scrambling for new ways to not address it.

>Oh, but wait, it's fictional though!

Meanwhile forgetting how the show bases much of it's theoetical technology on that which was already created. Data's neural net has something like 50 quadrillion bits. We use that system in our lives. We live in the same galaxy and see many of the same stars they went to. This is part of Trek's appeal.

There was always what I said was because the show stated it ad nauseum for storyline purposes. You are clearly lost in your own maze of what is worthy of consideration and what isn't. I even agreed with you like 4 times now. I'm making the point that it's implausible given what Geordi told us enough times to never forget.

I'm always going to be right and you can just go watch any number of episodes to cement it into that little head of yours.

>>87278463
>>87282789
we will see.

>>87283559
take care of

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>>87283541

>>87283559
serve and protect

>>87283648
>implying the physics of Star Trek are the same as the physics of real life
Warp drive says otherwise.

Q says otherwise.

Maintaining consciousness in the transporter says otherwise.

No matter how much you insist they're identical, Star Trek says that you're wrong.

>>87282605
this nigga knows whats up
now thats how you nigga my nigga

Troi, Jadzia, and Seven all have a knock down, drag out, catfight.
Who wins?

>>87283792
>Warp drive says otherwise
The Alcubierre drive only needs a negative mass-energy of about that of the Voyager spacecraft. This was mathematically refined from a negative mass-energy larger than that of the universe. We're close.

>>87273839
Improbable Cause

>>87283559
Am I a bad fan for not having known that Kirsten Dunst was in an episode of Trek until now?

Hory shet! Now I love this woman even more.

>>87283841
Seven has implants.

>>87283841
Seven.
How is this even a question?
She fought the Rock.

>>87283875
No she fucken does not.

>>87283898
Dude they're all over her face and arms and stuff.

>>87283883
And lost.
But sure, fine. Just Jadzia and Troi, then, killjoy.

>>87283943
Jadzia rips Troi limb from limb and drinks her blood. I think I have a fanfic about this somewhere.

>>87283792
So then your hard drive doesn't use the bit system?
Stars aren't measured in light years?
Suns don't go nova?

Sorry, my dude. You should just admit defeat gracefully, everyone here sees you for the frantic fuck you are.

Is there a way to have a thread about star trek without gross fucking men manposting all over it?

>>87284016
Show me Q in the real world.

>>87283943
Jadzia actually has combat experience, both from herself and Dax.
Obviously Troi stands no chance, I mean she couldn't even do her one job in TNG.

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>>87284043
>he doesnt believe in deities

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>>87283974
>jadzia will never obliterate your testicles
why even live?

>>87283559
read bedtime stories to

>>87284043
I repeat, does your hard drive use the bit system?
Are stars measured in light years?
And do suns go nova?

You can do it, I know you can do this. You'll never reach adulthood until you can own up.

>>87284197
Does Q match the real world's laws of physics?

>>87283099
TAS utilized the transporter in smarter ways than any live action series except Enterprise.

>>87284227
I asked my questions first. Be a good sport here. You've already lost this part, but now I'm about to make you choke on your own vomit. Answer the questions. In the real world, we take responsibility for our own words and actions.

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>>87284197
>>87284016
Wait a second. Let me calculate this.

>>87284292
>I repeat, does your hard drive use the bit system?
>Are stars measured in light years?
>And do suns go nova?
All yes.

Does Q match the real world's laws of physics?

No, of course not, because Star Trek doesn't match the real world's laws of physics.

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>>87284030

>>87278988
Requesting you in an Orion slavegirl ensemble. For research.

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>>87284356
Except I never said it did. You're searching for a way to change the character of the argument since you could never present a decent one to begin with. You wouldn't expect someone to do high level math missing their pre-frontal cortex.
You wouldn't expect someone to see the full spectrum of a rainbow missing their parietal lobe.
Now just admit that I'm right, you're wrong, and we can get on with the rest of the thread.
You're really holding up a decent general by not being a good sport. We all see you for who you are. Be honest with us all. To ride on adult rides you have to act like an adult and right now you're acting like Alexander circa season 3 (before Keh'lahr died, even).

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>>87283559

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>>87284030
what's manposting?

>>87284484
Is this CBS All Access?
Why do they still have the shitty pre-remastered TNG?

>>87278908
The amount of data Sloan had in his head would indicate their operations are far reaching, across the entire federation. I believe that it's unlikely they'd be able to gather such a high volume of such high-value intelligence without having assets across a wide variety of species that make up the Federation, people who understood the culture and environment they were operating in and could get the data they needed without raising any suspicion.

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>>87284498
PREPARE YOUR ANUS

>>87284292
Dude just stop everyone thinks your tarded head-canon is retarded, your the one sperging like a child who was once again proven wrong and can't admit it, stop

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>>87281872
You just know

>>87283792
>Star Trek says that you're wrong

My. God. I. Can't. Even.

>>87284753
>Dude just stop everyone thinks your tarded head-canon is retarded, your the one sperging like a child who was once again proven wrong and can't admit it, stop
>head-canon

Are you seriously telling me that the countless times Geordi and O'Brien explained how the transporter works by breaking down your atoms and what not isn't canon? Because that's what I said it was.

Chill out, you're running on anger and not thinking clearly.

>>87284636
I don't know why CBS doesn't use the HD versions but BBC America uses HD only for seasons 1 and 2 last time I watched.

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>>87284649
>implying humans can't do all of that
The reason Starfleet is so filled with humans is so that they can place humans anywhere in Federation controlled space without any fuss.
Also, if they ever have to go deep cover they can just do cosmetic surgery like Dukat.
O'brien did a fine job infiltrating a criminals syndicate and he's just a low level Section 31 guy.

>>87284484
Just curious, are you the same shitposter as >>87244657?

Do you do this in every thread? Get into arguments and keep arguing even after you realize that you were wrong?

If we can agree that Q doesn't match real world physics,
Then we can agree that Star Trek doesn't match real world physics,
So we can agree that separating molecules in Star Trek doesn't cause the same problems that it would in the real world.

>we can get on with the rest of the thread
The thread's over. Regardless of whether or not we agree, we all get to move on with our lives anyway.

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>ywn be FRAKED

>>87284858
that was my first post to you, I haven't gotten involved in this stupid discussion, just pointing out everytime you say other anons are 'freaking out' it just reminds everyone what you are doing right now

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The skirt on this barely exists

>>87284858
>I don't know why CBS doesn't use the HD versions
Netflix, Hulu and Amazon have TNG in HD for all 7 seasons, but CBS's official streaming site, that will host Discovery, doesn't?

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this thread's almost done. It's very close to death.
I'm gonna leave now.

buh-bye thread!

>>87284873
No, but I have a feeling you do this every thread the way you talk at people and not to them when they ask for a dialogue. This is not a natural conversation for one to have (to just dismiss good points someone else is making). You never addressed it because you can't. The show is situated in our world and uses all of it's pseudo or fake science ensconced in our world of science.

I really feel bad that you can't admit when you are wrong like a good sport and let the thread keep moving along. I've countlessly rebutted your shoddily built house of cards and you keep flopping about with your red herrings as if it isn't seen for what it is. I was never in disagreement with your original argument but the moment I showed one good point about the incongruity of the show your autism overtook your good judgement and couldn't concede.

>>87285032
>that was my first post to you
lol, no it wasn't with your stupid commas only and no periods punctuation. You're bare ass naked right now, get your pants back on please.

>>87285078
She was raped though. Not funny.

>>87285138
no really that was my first post to you, your continued retardation is a wonder to behold

>>87285138
>Star Trek is real
Q, help, save us from this thread!

>>87284873
I made that post and I ended you. It's hilarious that you're still butthurt over it. Fuck you. I own you

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>>87285184
It's a little funny.

>>87285184
o-oh

Am I the only one who thinks Worf/Klingon episodes are GOAT? I love Klingon culture and politics.

>>87285268
Sad, very sad

>>87284867
>O'brien did a fine job infiltrating a criminals syndicate and he's just a low level Section 31 guy.

O'Brien wasn't working for Section 31, that was for Starfleet Intelligence. Section 31 has bigger fish to fry than organized crime.

>Cosmetic surgery
It's one thing to look like an alien, that doesn't mean you can act like one convincingly enough to get past their security.

Now, if you wanted to make the argument that Section 31 was run entirely by humans, and the assets they gathered intel from didn't even know they were working for Section 31, I could see that. One way or another, Section 31 will get what they want from you.

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>>87285184
Don't forget that Stargate Atlantis made a funny story about a guy who drugged and took advantage of an entire village, giving himself multiple wives in the process.

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>>87285308
It's only you.

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>>87284873
>>87285138
You people really are mentally ill, aren't you? LOL. I really must do some research on this, because I'd really like to know if there is a specific type of mental disorder that causes a person to insist they are right, even when they are wrong; take great offense to minor disagreements; over-rationalize their ideas or behavior to a group of anonymous strangers; all the while being completely obsessed with every detail of a 50 year old television series to the point of demanding that all participant in any given discussion about it either adhere to the prevailing groupthink or be ruthlessly ridiculed and ostracized. Until I find out otherwise, I'll just continue to refer to you as trektards.

>>87285091
I'm not giving CBS a fuckin' penny but I don't know why they don't stream HD versions when they own the franchise.

>>87285193
>no really that was my first post to you, your continued retardation is a wonder to behold
Why do you post with only commas? Did you have some sort of TBI that damaged the punctuation centers or your brain?

>>87285212
>Math and Astronomy are make believe lies perpetuated by hyper-aggressive Trekkies
Let me just call section 31 on subspace

>>87285308
Their almost all good, the officer exchange with Riker was probably best ep that season

>>87285349
I rike this pasta

>>87285354
>why post commas
to fuck with you freind, and i'm not the only one

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>>87285356
Matter of Honor is GOAT

>>87285354
>Math and Astronomy prove that Q is real!
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>87285349
>OP is now being drip-fed semen 24 hours a day
You have to love Phlox's irreverant way of describing things.

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>>87285327
>he doesnt know that obrien is a section 31 agent
You need to catch up with the times anon.

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>>87285356
>their
>loves Klingon eps
Story checks out.

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>>87285427
>caring about their/there
go back

>>87285416
>It's perfectly logical to be able to move and interact with things while my atoms and astrew
Fascinating levels of mental gymnastics to achieve such a prostrate mind.

>>87285184
which episode?

>>87285468
At least your finally admitting this is all in your head, progress at last.

>>87285452
>unable to master the English language to the level of an elementary school student
You first.

>>87285349
>December 28, 2011

is this date significant to the meme?

>>87285308
>A Matter of Honor - GOAT
>Sins of the Father - GOAT
>Reunion - GOAT
>Redemption - GOAT
>Birthright - GOAT in some parts

>>87285468
>it's perfectly logical that Q is real
Uh-huh.

>>87285338
He was such a pimp, Pegesus galaxy's mvp

>>87285484
not on the show, fool.

>>87285551
Klingons a shit

>>87285592
no honor detected

>>87285525
lol fuck off kid theirs nothing for you here but more pain

>>87285551
A Matter of Honor was GOAT because of Riker and Birthright was GOAT because of Data/Soong