>Superman, in saving the Earth, causes collateral damage that

>>87112375
Is he really dead or was it the bait and switch?

>>87112375
This is bait right?

Le magic même arrow man

Don't you get tired of spamming the same old shitposts.

You'll only get the same stale (You)s.

One is the ultimate force of good

And one is a space pirate

Also Marvels made me laugh and DCs made me want to kill myself

>>87112395
He's dead.

>Superman, paragon of hope and goodwill, hero of all, boy scout, all american flag waving, mashed potato eating, kansas born jesus symbol lets people die so he can have a big fist fight with an alien
>A murderous space pirate who steals and screws over everyone and is a criminal ring leader of a group that's killed plenty of people for no good reason, kills those of his group that betrayed him and helped stop a murderous cosmic god while saving his adopted son

Why are DCKEKS such shallow thinkers?

>>87112375
And Ego did nothing wrong.

I'M MARRY POPPINS Y'ALL

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>>87112375
supes in the movie wasn't in control of the situation even if he ran away zod would just wreck shit anyways there was no choice. you marv fags dont pay attention to movies.

>>87112375
muh tone

>>87112580
This.

>>87112395
Are you shitting me? We got to see him freeze to death, and then we saw him space cremated. He's super fucking dead.
>>87112580
This. Yondu had no reservations with killing in the first place and the victims were all mutineers.

he is literally an evil mercenary

>>87113481
'Evil' is a bit strong. They are criminals, yes, but they also put their lives on the line to protect Xandar. Not just for the Infinity Stone, either - some of the Ravager fighter pilots died trying to keep civilians alive, not for profit, but just to protect people. Rocket did the same thing in arguably his most heroic moment.

>>87113691
yeah I know, by evil I mean not goody two shoes boy scout like super man is supposed to be

>>87112580
>Marlet expecting characters to be one-dimensional
>good guy always does good, never kills
>bad guy kills and it's awesome XD
>no emotional complexity please
>make plot convoluted enough so Superman could never be in a situation where he makes mistakes or must do bad things for the greater good, everything just has to be perfect
>DCKEKS are shallow thinkers

>>87113691
seems all the pirates who were decent died in 1 since most of them seem to be absolute pieces of dirt in 2

>>87112737
we 1st level intellects cant comprehend his intellgebxe

>>87112580
>>A murderous space pirate who steals and screws over everyone and is a criminal ring leader of a group that's killed plenty of people for no good reason

Boy I better be sad when he dies cuz the music that is playing is sad even though he's a piece of shit. Marvel logic.

>>87115918
>marvel
>dying
wut

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>>87114522
dubs dont lie

superman had no choice they where terraforming the whole damn planet you cry man of murder but the avengers and that alien shit happened they wrecked that city too. but nah no complaints there huh just eat your shit and leave man of kino alone

>>87115449
Yondu's habit of being easy on Quill seems to have badly fractured his crew, and yeah, there were some bad eggs in there.

>>87115918
nigga he was gonna die anyway and still put in the effort to save the universe and someone he loved, that's why. Its something healthy people can empathize with

>>87115918
>Boy I better be sad when he dies cuz the music that is playing is sad even though he's a piece of shit. Marvel logic.
>Hurr durr what is character development
Fucking idiot. Yondu's death worked and was actually emotional because he grew as a character and was very likeable despite being a piece of trash. No one gave a shit when Superman "died" in BvS because he was still the exact same uncharismatic and boring character he was in Man of Steel

But hes not superman, hes yondu

>>87112823
He could have thrown him to space, its clear that kryptonians (based on the movie) has powers because of earths atmosphere, get him to space then

What's so bad about killing villains who are actively murdering people?

>>87112375
weren't those mutineers?

>>87116321
DCucks have their philosophies and heads buried so far up their ass they work out whatever small justification there is for their arguments because they are tiny dicked manlets that can't stand the fact that people like marvel in the civilized world (and I can assure you it's not the reverse).

If Snyder decided to portray literal cuckoldry, gay porn, defense of nigger and refugee behavior, or white male bashing in BvS they would write essays to justify that. If Marvel actually did try and write a serious, well made movie for once instead of the standard fun shit for normies they would tout their boring wankfest capeshit while flexing their nonexistent dick muscles.

'Killing bad people', despite being a logical decision for the character is suddenly 'massacring security' and is another 'epic marvel joke haha'. These people have no sense of critical thought outside of regurgitated pseudo intellectual trash from their philosophy 101 course in freshman year of the shitty community college they went to.

>>87116532
Ok

>>87115918
>i can't feel bad for bad man who do bad thing :(
films women will never understand?

>>87116567
since you gave me one, here's a (You) too friendo

>>87116227
>No one gave a shit when Superman "died" in BvS because he was still the exact same uncharismatic and boring character he was in Man of Steel

Besides, everyone and their mothers knew he's going to resurrect for the next movie way before the rocks started to float on his grave.

>>87112375
Those were his mutinous crew. He was well within his rights as a captain to kill them.

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>>87116363
Of course they were. Mutineers who tortured and killed just about every friend Yondu had. Op is just a copypasta shitposter.

>>87112375
>different movies have different tones

CALL THE PRESSES

Comparing a space pirate to someone who is supposed to inspire hope...

>character is an unapologetic criminal, has no problem with killing people and taking everything they own

>does a better job of inspiring hope than superman

>>87117208
Kek this

>>87117208
delete this

>>87112375
Yondu is an outlaw. Even for an outlaw he is scum because he broke one of the rules of being an outlaw.

>>87116227
the scene of him killing a bunch of guys with the arrow sticks out as weird after stuff had come up in the movie to get the audience to like him more.

>>87117402
How did that scene not make him more likeable? He was killing a bunch of guys that had mutinied against him that were shown beating baby groot too. Rocket laughing and joining in pretty much cements that it was a good character moment

>>87117208
>thinks he deserves to be killed
>hope

"Me and Stakar and the other captains… we weren’t so different from you and your friends.
The only family I ever had.
When I broke the code…they exiled me.
This is what I deserve. "

"I ain’t done nothin’ right my whole damn life, rat.
You need to give me this".

>>87117609
most of them come across as easliy manipulated morons running away in fear from Yondu rather than calculating, selfish, evil people so many people will feel somewhat bad about them being killed.

>>87117402
>killing bad people is bad

I don't read.

>>87117825
I think you're forgetting the part where
>space pirates

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>>87112580
>lets people die so he can have a big fist fight with an alien
How much is the mouse paying you to shill and not watch the fucking movies of your competitors? He clearly tried to take the fight elsewhere, but since Zod is such a skilled fighter and is on equal level strength, he was getting his ass handed to him left and right. He only then got the advantage when he finally took the fight to space and pinned him back down to Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EydFeuPK8

>>87119275
>cinemasins

>>87117208
this

>>87112867
Fuck off redditor

>>87119275
Zod was actually far stronger than Clark and was controlling the fight throughout. Clark just ended up lucky landing behind Zod. It's ridiculous how much people expected out of him in that fight. He was on the verge of losing for almost the entire fight.

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>>87119301
>w-woah redditsins format meme arrow!
Ebin argument my friend, excellent retort!

Marvel logic
>justice is murder
>revenge is fun
This is how society crumbles

>>87117634
Because no matter how much you fuck up, you can do something right, and it'll matter.

>>87116302
>He could have thrown him to space
He DID throw him into space. Zod charged back to Metropolis

>>87119526
Are you the same mongoloid who posted
>>87115918
Probably

>>87119449
I guess 30 years on earth dealing with superpowers would, possibly, grant greater experience with them than someone who'd only had them for a few minutes.

Crazy thoughts, I realize.

>>87119688
Zod was genetically bred to be a formidable fighter whereas Clark is the result of a natural birth with no such perks given. The longer the fight goes on the stronger Zod gets learning his limits. It was just a matter of time before his genetic superiority would catch up to Clark's experience.

>>87119688
>farm boy told to repress and hide his abilities until he was older, even when he used his powers it was never to fight
>genetically engineered general with a lifetime of combat training and military strategy with no sense of empathy
Are Marvel fans fucking stupid or is this just DC fans pretending to be them?

>>87119936
>train someone to fight with gravity
>remove gravity
>they are useless as combatants

The concepts and requirements of combat with the godlike abilities of superman would be completely incompatible with any training anyone received that was based in not having those abilities.

>>87112580
Why do brainlets think that Superman is god?

>>87119955
Yeah, it makes perfect sense that someone who gained superpowers two seconds ago would be stronger and better with them than a guy who's has years of practice. Oh wait.

>>87120162
negro this is in your script, under the "MUH MYFS" section.

>>87120162
Because Zak Snyder superimposed Clark over an image of Jesus Christ.

If you didnt think of Superman as a deity figure you werent watching the first half of the movie.

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>>87120162
Because of the ham handed Jesus imagery Snyder kept hitting us over the head with, I guess. And even in his earliest stories he was clearly a Moses allegory.

>>87120242
>>87120245
Not to mention having batman make the spear of longinus

>>87120162
Are you fucking serious?

>>87120198
>Yeah, it makes perfect sense that someone who gained superpowers two seconds ago would be stronger and better with them than a guy who's has years of practice
The Kryptonians/Zod has always had those powers. Earth's Sun just perfected them, retard. Zod was just in a different fucking situation than Clarke. He spent all of his life in military training on Krypton with a different Sun, while Clarke was raised by his father to hone his powers from the his adopted world. Yes Superman has had more experience with HIS powers, but he is no where near a skilled fighter like a military bred Kryptonian like Zod or Faora. Keep the fuck up if you want to have at least some what of a coherent conversation.

>>87112375
People discussing Marvel and DC films are the biggest retards. They're just so out of their league. Basic storytelling conventions are way above their head. They always take the CinemaSins approach to tackling criticism, which is just totally braindead and ignores way more important thematic elements.

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>>87120162
>>87120242
>>87120245
Superman has always had a Jesus allegory though

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>>87120443
>Earth's Sun just perfected them, retard.

>>87120544
Weird right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlINHSnUx9k
Zod's abilities just sperg out when his helmet breaks. Its almost as if he's had those abilities all along. Hell, he even fucking stares at the Sun while focusing on them in that short scene near the end. Like I said, Superman is better at handling his powers since he's been on Earth longer. But that's his POWERS. Not his combat capabilities.

>>87120463
>They always take the CinemaSins approach to tackling criticism
That's marvelfag way. If you want proper thematic discussion, they occur in BvS threads when the Marvel drone army isn't present to derail with shitposting.

>>87121064
>BvS threads
>Discussion
It's literally just the same cropped pictures posted over and over. Add in some shirtless pics of Cavill or the other male leads and there you go

>>87115913
Im sure if an entity like that existed it would have a more complex purpose than to just snuff out all life with its own blue shit. I mean he observed life and said "fuck this it sucks, i know it could be better." I probably woulda helped him unless i found something to indicate he was naive but he lived as a man longer than anything natural so its kinda hard to claim he was naive.

>>87121064
No. The fact that you have any sort of dog in this fight is part of my issue with you guys. You aren't equip to talk about art. You'd be better off talking about sports since that's how you truly approach this shit.

>>87112375
>space pirate kills people
>super hero boyscout Jesus allegory kills people
>same
Are all DCfags this dumb?

>>87122900
Yes

>>87120443
>The Kryptonians/Zod has always had those powers. Earth's Sun just perfected them, retard.
what? they never had powers while in krypton and is no difference in the movie, thats why they use weapons and flying shit in the first part of MoS

>>87112375
>DC takes itself seriously
>Marvel doesn't

>>87120162
>gods among us

Do you not even DC?

>>87123023
>they never had powers while in krypton and is no difference in the movie
Reading comprehension, anon. Both planets have two different Suns and gravity. Earth's Sun is what enhances these powers. If all Kryptonians don't have powers, how did Kal El end up with them on Earth? How did Zod have powers when only being on Earth for only a couple weeks at most. They have the abilities inside them on Krypton. They just don't get brought out because of their environment/Sun

>>87112823
oh yeah? tell that to Zod's snapped neck

Are we now at the point where people are taking the ironic praise of Snyder films seriously?

lmao

>>87115449
No, All the good ones were killed at the start after Yondu was taken out, remember they were all spaced.

>>87119936
If Zod was such a good fighter, how did he lose in a fight to a scientist?

>>87112580
beat me to it
Superman aint no space pirate ad Yondu was justified in his killing of traitors.

>>87124408
We passed that point a long time ago.

>>87114522
>having Superman kill someone before his morals are even established and the breaking of said morals has little to no consequence to his character

>>87115918
Even though the entire point of him teaming up with Rocket was to showcase how both of them are shitty fuckups who hate themselves, and set up Yondu ultimately redeeming himself by saving Quill

>>87112375
>implying the scene where Lois said "he saved the city" after making out with Superman while behind them buildings in the city are still collapsing isn't the funniest stuff I have ever seen

>>87124444
wasted quads

>>87119275
what if superman just left and flew over the ocean. what would zod do? just, hang out, smoke a cigar, chill for a bit, wait?

>>87112375
>what is tone

>>87119275
>>87119449
>this one plot detail that was talked about for a minute in the movie totally justifies everything!

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>>87112580
>so he can have a big fist fight with an alien
>either save as much people as you can while an alien kills more than what you save, or kill the alien first which results in fewer casualties in the end

>>87127156
always makes me think of that stupid scene in american sniper, which i watched out of the corner of my eye on an airplane on someone elses seat. the kid picks up a rpg and points it at a humvee of soldiers, and hes on the phone to his wife and oh my god what a tense decision. holy fuck the dumbest scene. LIGHT THE KID UP. i knew it wouldnt happen, but the kid firing the rpg and like 6 soldiers dying would of been the best moment ever, where suddenly the cinema has to go "oh...thats why they shoot anyone carrying a weapon. uh..."

the real problem here is that the DCEU is complete trash, save for Wonder Woman. someone post that B&W photo of Henry Cavill, et al. working out. go ahead.