Just finished the last episode of Stranger Things...8 episodes. You know, for some series I can understand why shorter seasons are needed because of very high production costs, limited resources, staffing support, problems with shooting etc... But it seems to me that nowadays, every single fucking show is cheaping out and making seasons shorter and shorter. 8 episodes for this show? Are you serious? This show has like 4 sets, ZERO extra's. And a reoccuring cast of about 20. The CGI and special effects are minimal, there's nothing flashy going on, and they make the season 8 episodes?? I can't help but think that what was once a reasonable excuse for high cost shows, is now just a scape goat for laziness and minimal effort. This show easily should be a full 16-20 episode season at a reasonable price tag of a "regular" show.
>>86921400
Orrrr... They felt that 8 episodes was enough for what they wanted to achieve and that it would serve the story really well. It's not about being lazy, it's called being smart.
>>86921400
It was also an unknown show with potential but only one "bankable" star, a lot of kid leads.
It was easy to make, but it also could have been a flop
Netflix shows never have that many, on average they might have 12 episodes per season and they get lose quality during the second half. Is Defenders the only show you've seen on Netflix?
>>86921705
Not to mention the bait-and-switch.
If you watch the trailers, it seems like the whole show is about Rider looking for her son and her story instead of that being like, the C plot.
>>86921400
You are forgeting that kids age very noticeably, the longer they make the season, the more time will pass between recordings and post production.
You'll have uneven scenes sometimes the kids look like kids and the next scene their voices have cracked and the next scene they are back to being shorter and stuff like harry potter 1.
>>86921400
your characterization of the production value is bogus. You're a fucking retard.
The rest of what you said is retarded too.
The show went to shit after episode 3 so it might as well have been even shorter anyway.
Maybe it's the beer hitting me... but The last episode seemed to..hmm how should I say...suck?
>>86921567
this
I slogged through Daredevil's first season, and they stretched 8 episodes worth of story into 13 gruelingly slow episodes full of repeated conversations
>omg u guyz we gotta do something about Fisk already but what?
Every episode Karen and Ben had that conversation
then Karen and Foggy
then Foggy and Matt
every goddamn episode, the same conversations repeated
and the writing was cringeworthy
and the episodes were 40-45 minutes of content stretched to 55.
My favorite shows are Mad Men and Twin Peaks, I should not be fucking bored with an action capeshit show.
>>86921400
8 episodes is superior from a writing standpoint because you can pace everything tighter and cover about as much detail as a short novel. This means less filler, no cheap-looking bottle episodes, etc.
Many series that have been forced into longer seasons have actually suffered from being stretched out longer than there was actually material for (see netflix originals).
IF you go and look at british TV you'll find serial dramas with as a few as six episodes in a series.
Considering how tight and well-plotted stranger things was, I wouldn't change anything at all about the pacing.
>>86921400
>getting upset because you don't sit in front of the TV long enough
>>86922235
Man. In weeds season 2 and 3 are supposed to be minutes apart but the two kids in it both hit puberty super hard between filming it was really funny.
>>86924774
>Michael Cera in Arrested Development season 4
those flashback scenes to the same day as the season 3 finale, where George Michael and Maebe clearly aged like a decade, but they were still supposed to be kids
>>86921400
1. It was stretched out as it was. It's a simple story that doesn't need 12 more hours of meandering.
2. 23 episode shows are precisely because they're fucking cheap and/or appeal to the lowest common denominator with a huge audience. Quality over quantity in every aspect.
3. Movies are perfectly able to tell their story in a few hours. Insisting that you need 18+ hours to tell a story is nonsense. If you got more to tell, make a second season.
3. There are a lot more shows on air than there used to be. People don't have the patience to sit for months with a show unless it's really good or appeals directly to them. You can watch a shorter show in a few sittings, just like with a book.
4. Filming a show is more complicated than you think. Even a scene 1 minute long can take up an entire day cause if make up, costuming, lighting etc. Making a shorter show is much less stressful for everyone involved and frees everyone up for other projects/relaxation. For a 20 episode show you're basically filming from when a season ends until the next one starts, it becomes a full time nonstop job for everyone involved, just working on that one show potentially for years on end.
>I wish I could waste even more of my time
go watch the walking dead or something
>>86922889
It took the loose ends and tried to wrap it up in the most heartwarming, positive way possible.
Fuck off, no way a kid would be allowed to return to his family after being trapped in an alternate dimension for 2 weeks. The government agency behind it just disappears conveniently too.
Plus, the premise was too generic. The first few episodes led me to believe that the kid had got sucked into a lightbulb or something, and the monster was some sort of invisible presence that lurked in the electricity (Twin Peaks style). Instead we get a generic monster that can be killed easily. The monster's origin story was cool, though.
>>86921400
Why would you want to watch more of this garbage?