This thread will be mainly for people who want to simply abandon the life they have in search for adventure, travel, etc.
Share stories, ideas, and advice. It doesn't matter how much money you have.
It doesn't matter how you travel, whether it be by foot, plane, train.
We will also discuss ways to make money while doing this. (For example, if you're living out of your car, you could signup for Lyft and make money that way). In general, life(travel) hacks are welcome as well.
Examples of a few resources that may come in handy
>couch surfing
>airbnb
>craigslist
>InviteTravel
Music theme of the thread:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcZGU52WV9c
Let's go!
>>1258513
jo jo approves of this thread
- reporting from south florida
>>1258513
Meet ups and road dogs should be in here too
>>1258513
I'm interested in busking and being a traveling musician. Anyone know the best spots in the USA to do this? Actually, any other international spots where you can do pretty good busking too? It's something I would like to do for maybe a year.
I'd prefer spots where no permit is necessary.
Can anyone un-prejudice me against living as a hobo in America? I'm American. Every single person I've met who has bummed around the country is embittered to some degree, however "free spirited" a face they put on.
They all have horror stories. They all smoke. They all hate police. They are mistrustful of everyone. They all do drugs. They have all "seen some shit, man."
This is in contrast to 'nomad' kids who roam the earth for kicks, spending almost no money. I've never heard any horror stories from these people. They are open-minded and adamant that humans are fundamentally good.
Basically I would never even consider vagabonding around my own country and I don't understand why anyone else does. What American hobos spend on a year on Reds could take them anywhere else in the world they want to go.
>>1258544
I'm thinking about taking a greyhound to Miami and staying in a hostel for a week or two. It'll be my first time in a hostel.
I'm prior military, so I've lived in worse conditions.
i'm homeless but not poor, does that make me a hobo?
>>1258584
Everything has its downsides i guess. Absolute freedom also means no security. But if you don't want to become like the guys you've met just don't become that way. Be the odd man out. Don't start drugs. Don't let yourself get paranoid. Keep an open mind. Just be the person you want to be.
>>1258584
Being free isn't as much fun when you are pushing 30 or over 30. People will treat you differently. The kids that enjoy that shit are either living it up because they know they are already fucked, or they have money to go back to so they don't care.
USA isn't a good place to be a hobo, no respect, >>1258572 even artists are going to mock you.
respect to the people that do it though.
>>1258513
been traveling in SEA for a while and working up the courage to go hobo
I want to see Myanmar but hte fat tax on accomodation and the other greedy little taxes and fees add up to make it unafordable
I've been asking for WEEKS about monestary stays, and nobody has been able to give me any real answers; you used to be able to do it but the situation changes rapidly
I just take a fuck load of public busses, but I'm suffering every day because I can't cook my own food here
Gas refils just arn't available, I'm unfamiliar with the locals foods and sanitation issues make eating things raw unadvisable
the tap water being undrinkable isn't a big deal till you have to cook with it, locals just revil galon bottled for half a dollar, but I can't carry one of those and am shunted into pating half a dollar for a liter
people in SEA are just greedy motherfuckers, everyone thinks white face=full of money and its a nightmare
if I had it my way I'd just get a 4wd, put a folding bed and a hard cover on the tray and store food in a bucket of cold sand
I got a hammock and tarp last week but people here don't understand "camping", let alone vagabonding
>>1259058
> been traveling in SEA for a while and working up the courage to go hobo
That is SEA? Fucking Spanch Bob it's you?
>>1259062
south east asia
I thought it was a common shortening, sorry
>>1259066
> I thought it was a common shortening, sorry
no sorry, man,all is good.just i dont know american common shortening
>>1259066
Yes, it is. The guy above is a mongoloid.
>>1259058
Have local contacts via local sim+smartphone and tinder.
1. They will speak English
2. Most likely not expect money
3. Help you out in small ways
I have to interest in hobo/vagabonting. Time seems valuable to me and I'd rather do somethign with results. Y'know.
>>1259071
> The guy above is a mongoloid.
What is wrong with mongoloids? You racist or something?
hoping to become a pro vagabond this fall. got a one-way ticket to Finland where my buddy says i can crash at his house indefinitely, but i know that's not really where i want to stay. need to get back to the developing world.
i've had ESL jobs in the past, TEFL certificate, lived a few years in Asia. but teaching english is a little boring. instead of falling back on that as the "easy" way to get by, i'd like to do the real thing. not sure how i'm going to make it work but not making a plan might be the plan. or it might be a good way to get kicked out of the country and come crawling back home. we'll see!
i think i'd like to try picking up odd jobs everywhere. teach ESL or computer /math in this place, help staff a hostel in that place, dig ditches and lay bricks in the next place, get paid mostly in room and board or local language lessons. how easy is it to swing that kind of thing when every country in the developing world has so many people willing to do anything for work? i don't want to be a douche immigrant taking jobs away from the locals, assuming i even could.
>>1259071
I don't like getting involved with the locals, in communities here it creates a kind of fatige because so many people come through meeting everyone, getting mixed up in everything; then they just leave one day
and it happens every week to these folks
to be honest I've found locals a real mixed bag, many are unfriendly if not hostile
I know back home if I was in a fix people would help me, but I don't know about here
a few days ago I made 15kms hitchiking but mainly walking and I was really dehydrated
I went into the only shop in miles and they charged me quadruple for a bottle of fucking water
can you be an anti-social vagabond?
>>1259066
Why is need asia if you live in america? Country in which have all. Fucking Florida, California, Disneyland,l the festiva Burning man, all.
The time will come and I will make my great American journey.
Sorry that it's impossible to see all that I want.
>>1259130
i can't speak for the anon you're referring to, but i can tell you why i want to leave America and travel in the developing world.
i personally think travelling is the single best thing you can do for your brain. it really changes you. also there's something to be said about exchanging culture with others and realizing how stupid nationalism really is.
but ultimately America is not quite the culture i want to live in. i miss being in a dirty noisy smelly zoo of a country. i miss corrupt government and cheesy TV shows and ... well, we have those things in America but not as blatantly, i guess. i miss having to haggle for shit at a street market instead of everything being clearly marked with an RFID tag and bought with a credit card.
i don't give a shit about getting rich and i think being comfortable all the time is for losers. i wanna go get lost in a place where i can't read the street signs and everybody's shouting gibberish and trying to rip me off. keeps me feeling alive.
>>1258584
We hate police they constantly fuck you. Constantly. Even if you're just sitting somewhere reading a book they cone uo and hassle you saying they have questions you must answer about your employment, residence, where you're going, they need to search your stuff.
People get tired of that shit.
>>1259164
there is a common idea among a lot of government and conservatives in America that if we just make it really inconvenient to be homeless, all the homeless people will suddenly get themselves off drugs, get GEDs, find jobs, and move off the streets.
i'm not saying we owe homeless people anything unless they're vets or something, but the third time you break up the homeless camp under the overpass and the homeless people build a new camp two blocks away, you need to realize that your strategy for combating the homeless problem may be retarded. but no - the chief of police here is dumbfounded that his plan didn't work for the third time in a row, and plans to try it again.
>>1259202
>make it essentially illegal to be homeless
>you now have to pay a fee, essentially rent to go to jail
>if you never pay, you never leave and fee increases
But homeless people serve a purpose, they give cops' spoiled/sheltered wives someone to sneer at.
>i'm not saying we owe homeless people anything unless they're vets or something
Most vets aren't homeless unless they choose to be, we give them enough benefits, discounts, and perks already, they are not entitled to anymore but patriotism is an easy stick to poke with, especially for 'murricans.
>>1258513
Anyone try train hopping?
>>1259202
It's kind of odd, I agree. People in the USA just don't like the idea of someone without a job. They don't want to think that someone sits on a park bench all day, then sleeps under the trees at night. They don't even like to think someone lives out in the woods by themselves and doesn't bother anyone. We are here to work, and serve. I've come to the conclusion over time, that some jobs aren't actually worth working. The idea that people will respect you for busting your ass at a shitty job is antiquated. If only work and sleep and barely scrape by, whats the point?
>>1259155
>to haggle for shit at a street market instead
>i wanna go get lost in a place where i can't read the street signs and everybody's shouting gibberish and trying to rip me off
America is have that too. I was seeing Land of the gang on youtube. Bloodz, Latin kings something else entirely. You can go to a latinos or niggas neighborhood. There you get and a street market and a gibberish and a rip of your ass.
Also white man really cannot go into the black area?
>>1259250
>white man really cannot go into the black area?
most of that shit is exaggerated. i've lived in a housing project in Brooklyn - i was probably the only white guy in a ten block radius. everybody assumed i was a cop and avoided me. i also lived in a shitty neighborhood in Syracuse where there were gangs selling drugs on every corner and getting in gun battles with the cops in the park a block from my house. or on Coney Island where the cab drivers wouldn't take me home at night because they were scared of carjackers so i had to walk or wait for the bus at 2 AM.
it's not super safe but it's not like everybody wants to kill you either. families live there. most people just go about their business. i had white people get lost and drive down the wrong street and they would stop and lean out the window and yell "oh my god, you don't walk in this neighborhood do you?" fuck you Richie Rich, i fucking live here. don't tell me where to walk.
it depends on how you dress and how you act and other shit. but no, it's not a 24/7 war zone, no, you don't get attacked just for being white on an average day.
>>1259253
>i've lived in a housing project in Brooklyn
I was thinking Brooklyn it's white area. In Brooklyn
is Brighton Beach there live my former countrymen.
More about the hobo.
Why they do that?
Seriously? Veteran of the Army of America which can work plumber can be homeless?
How? You seem to have money help for jobless.
>>1259253
Brooklyn hood is practically a country club these days. Try Austin or englewood in Chicago if you really want to feel alive
>>1259273
A lot of homeless are unemployable because they have mental illness or drug/alcohol problems, especially veterans since they have PTSD or some other anxiety/depressive/survivor's guilt disorder and they do drugs to distract themselves from it.
Not sure if anyone can consider me "homeless" or not since I live in my car at a WalMart™ parking lot(it's free). It's a pretty shit life, and it's been like this for 3 years. I started living like this after my mom died (my dad has been in prison my whole life)--my sister doesn't want me to live with her but took my autistic little brother to care for. Got evicted and was living at my community college lounge at first (friends with the security guard), making a living tutoring people in programming but soon my circle of friends found out and even though I don't care if they make fun of me, I didn't want the rumors to spread to qt girls' ears lol so I actually took advice from some anon on 4chan to live at WalMart™.
When I first started living like this (age 18) I was quite naïve: I was shitposting on my phone in my car after work, getting all /comfy/, when my manager saw me and knocked on my window and told me to get back to work. This happened like 10 times before I realized I wasn't getting paid. Yeah I know, I'm too stupid and too beta to speak up for myself.
I did do some Gay-for-Stay shit at a gay beach resort where I walk around my underwear at a rich guy's condo in exchange for a place to stay. Wasn't too bad but his fuckin pitbull was tormenting me, and I found out the other twink I lived with was a drug dealer, so when I was alone I would get all these angry degenerates banging at my door for their pills. I gtfo that joint and went back to living in my car.
Honestly it sucks living right next to where you wageslave. I feel like a robot. I put my car up for sale because I dream of wandering around America doing odd jobs. I have nothing to lose at this point anyway...
>>1259290
But why to sale your car? With a car it is more convenient to travel.
Also I envy you. You can go anywhere. Las vegas, Los Andgels, arizona. San francizco. Oh, it's cool.
>>1259202
The government makes it hard for people peruing alternative lifestyles, homelessness in particlar
many people at some level do choose to be homeless, france for instance has enough overnight shelters for every homeless person; but many choose to sleep rough anyway
and in many parts of the world people choose a combination of homelessness, theft and begging in wealthy areas; rather than normal lives in rural communities
sometimes I stay all night at a bar and sleep for a few hours rough instead of paying for an expensive hotel
I have a friend who has a trailer instead of a mortgage
so there's more to it than that
>>1259210
too risky these days. They'll throw you in jail in a hurry if you get caught.
My grandfather has tons of stories of when he used to do this. I wish I could train hop. It's like the ultimate adventure because you don't know where you're going
>>1259339
you usually do know. if you get a hold of the crew change
>>1259290
I think selling the car will be the end of you. Go to some employment agency while you have a physical address you can use, and get a better job. How about a hotel? Might get to use a room.
>>1259258
Brooklyn is enormous. there are trendy safe places full of rich white americans, immigrant neighborhoods, run-down ghettos, jewish gated communities, everything in-between.
Brooklyn's criminal justice court is the biggest and busiest in the entire country, or so we were told when i served on a grand jury.
>>1259550
> Brooklyn's criminal justice court is the biggest and busiest in the entire country, or so we were told when i served on a grand jury.
What about South Bronks or Queens? 50 cent said what "The one who grew up in Queens is not afraid of anything" when he was in Serbia.
>>1259600
there are places in America with higher crime rates or higher murder rates per capita. Brooklyn is a combination of a high rate of crime and a large / dense population.
Brooklyn would be the 4th biggest city in the entire US if it were legally an isolated city rather than a borough of New York. 2.6 million people.
you're all filthy casuals compared to the japan deer killing hobo
>>1259339
Don't carry ID, or burn yours. Problem solved.
Taking this girl to miami in the next few weeks. (People bond through experiences)
>its her first greyhound
>She's never been to miami
>She's 19. I'm 29
>be me
>have no experience camping, cooking whatever, typical basment dweller
>gonna go hobo the day after tomorrow, starting in Austria trying to get somewhere, sleeping in my tent in the forests (illegaly)
Anybody knows how to not starve to death or die of thirst? That's currently the thing I'm most concerned about. Thought about dumpster diving, but I'm not sure whether that's a good thing to do health wise