Hey /trv/!
I am planning on doing a longer bike trip.
I want to cycle from Germany to China, specifically Hong Kong.
Currently I am debating on what route to take and wanted to get your advice on this.
The only city I really want to see on the way is Moscow.
Also I will start this in June/July this year so keep that in mind. I don't want to freeze my ass off in North Russia when it is December/January.
I will bring my laptop to work on the way. I have currently a budget of 3000€ but will try to work as much as possible when I am on the way (currently building a few sources of income)
What route would you take?
Any nice spots to visit?
Any advice on any country I will pass through?
Here is my initial route.
Is this viable? Would you change it?
What equipment are you planning to take?
>>1205995
Russia and China will be your most troublesome countries. From Vyborg to Vladikavkaz there's about 2,600-2,800 km depending on route. I don't know how fit you are, but I've heard 100 km/day is a very good estimate for a fit cyclist. The standard Russian tourist visa is 30 days. There will definitely be cities on the way which you are keen on staying more than one afternoon, so obviously you see the problem here. You need to find a way to obtain a 90 day business visa, or exit and enter the country again with a new visa somewhere along the route. The border with Georgia is open south of Vladikavkaz, but not elsewhere. If you enter into Abkhazia or South Ossetia from Russia, Georgia will consider it illegal entry into the country.
There is a ferry between Baku and Aktau as far as I know, but I think basically from there until mid-Myanmar you'll be in very desolate places with long distances between populated places. This means harder access to food, water and spare parts, also you do not want to be stuck/injured there. Also depending on how fast you get there, it may be in the middle of winter, which means a lot of mountain roads in Central Asia and Western China will be closed. Getting Chinese visas is also difficult, though not impossible, and travel in Tibet means you have to take part in an organized tour. There's also the distance aspect involved here, the shortest route I could find on Google Maps from Kashgar to the Myanmar border, without entering Tibet, was almost 5500 km. I don't know how long Chinese visas lasts, but you probably need two months or more.
If I were you, I'd look into going south of Afghanistan instead, going from Azerbaijan to Iran, Pakistan and India. I know it's vastly different from your original route, but it will be a whole lot easier to plan and manage (though I know Pakistan isn't technically safe). You avoid starving and/or freezing to death in a remote mountain pass in Kyrgyzstan, and you avoid the entire Chinese problem
>>1205995
Damn nigga, you should at least visit Uzbekistan. Also, the Azerbaijan-Kazakhstan "ferry" is said to be quite an expensive hassle. So I'm a bit surprised you go that way instead of just overland.
>>1206010
Equipment?
You want a full list? Can tell you what I have until now if you are interested.
I basically take my bike, a tent (and all the other sleeping stuff), some clothes, a stove and thats it. Don't want to take more than I need.
>>1206037
That's a bunch of valuable information you shared there, thanks!
Yeah, I thought the duration of the visa could be a problem.
People also told me that I would be better off doing this whole thing with a motorcycle. But I am not really sure about that. This just means more expenses on the way. But than again it would eliminate a lot of problems.
Freezing/starving to death somewhere sounds pretty awful.
Is there no problem in leaving a country and coming back like 1 day later? Have never done that but that sounds like there could be problems.
Tibet would be awesome to visit. Maybe I will join a tour or something if it is not too expensive.
Iran I also looked at because I often hear that the people there are very nice and civilised, basically a safe haven among the other countries.
I don't really know what is going on in Pakistan but like you said, it isn't considered to be very safe.
But it still tempts me because I will be able to get to India which is a country I would love to visit.
Do you know how safe Pakistan really is?
Can't really tell.
>>1206048
I just looked it up http://www.acsc.az/en/pages/232
Looks like for a seat you only pay 40$.
But considering it will take 30h to get from Baku to Aqtau I would probably take the 60-80$ berth cabin.
Plus I think I will have some overweight because of the bike. So I guess it will be 80-100$.
I think that's okay to be honest.
>>1206055
>Is there no problem in leaving a country and coming back like 1 day later?
With multiple entry visa it won't be a problem, with only single entry, you can't. Don't know the rules for applying for more than one visa to the same place, if it's even possible. Call your Russian embassy and ask. Also a business visa is expensive and a bit more hassle to get, but not impossible even for independent travelers. There was a cyclist who did it some years ago, Rob Lilwall, who also wrote a book, "Cycling home from Siberia". 3 year bike journey from Magadan to London through some pretty cool places. Travel inspiration for you there. But I digress.
>Do you know how safe Pakistan really is?
I don't know the situation there well enough to be able to tell you unfortunately. I know most travel advisories either says pic related, or just colors the whole country red. The corresponding area on the Iranian side of the border is usually considered dangerous as well, not that I know why. In areas like these it's kidnapping you should be afraid of, not terrorism or airstrikes. I'd do some serious googling if I were you, though I'm sure people have traversed that distance before, but maybe not on a bike. Also keep in mind that in order to get over to India, you need to travel up to Lahore and the Wagah border crossing, as it's the only one open to foreigners. It's also the site of the famous border closing ceremony. The big cities are mostly safe, the chances of terrorism occuring is extremely small, though avoid political gatherings, Friday prayers, etc.
>>1206055
I see your route goes into Ukraine and out through East Ukraine again back to Russia. This is not possible due to the war in Donbass at the moment.
HOWEVER, you say the only city you really want to visit is Moscow, so I was thinking: Why not leave Russia after that? You could faff around in and around Moscow and then go to Minsk or Kiev easily from there, go down Balkan, into Turkey and enter Georgia that way. Belarusian visa is a bit tricky, but perfectly doable, Ukraine is visa on arrival (assuming you're German). All countries in question have border crossings open for foreigners, you don't have to worry about an expiring Russian visa, and you don't have to go to North Caucasus, which isn't terribly safe anyway.
I took the liberty of drawing my proposed route on a proper map.
Thoughts?
>>1206209
Awesome idea my friend!
I didn't even think about actually leaving Russia after visiting Moscow.
I like your route much better simply because I will get to see more countries on the way.
I am still not very confident about Pakistan but I will research the situation there a bit more.
Any thoughts on Nepal/Tibet?
As I said, I would love to visit Tibet even if it is with a guided tour. (or is it actually possible to just get an invitation from an hotel or something and get a visa that way?)
Another question that just popped up: Is it in any way an advantage for me to have a Bachelor degree in terms of getting visa?
>>1206209
Also, does anyone know of any ferrys that take passengers from Athens to Izmir?
I think about also visiting Greece on the way.
>>1206209
This is a much more sensible route if you plan on surviving your trip and seeing places
Also would warn that travel through Myanmar is very restricted and you are not allowed to go more than 10 km through your port of entry
-would not recommend doing this unofficially as they are very militarised country
>>1206813
Myanmar is fine to travel through. Just stay clear of certain zones.
People are very welcoming there and you can sleep for free in buddhist temples
>>1206801
>>1206209
You will need armed escorts for some parts of Pakistan. But don't worry because you won't get in anyway because the only place to get a visa for Pakistan is in your country of residence.
Nepal Tibet Border is currently closed due to the earthquake and will probably open up at the end of summer So your only way to get in is Via plane or train from China and only with a guided tour of course.
Bangladesh and Myanmar Border is also closed and there is only one crossing in India at Tamu/Moreh
>>1205994
Dude I want to do a very similar route only with hitchhiking and taking cheap trains and buses.
I want to go through the Balkans though and return to Germany via the Trans-Siberian and see Moscow last.
What kind of remote jobs are you working on?
>yo guys i wanna cycle from germany to honk kong any advice?
this trip sure is going to be a great success
>>1206846
Op will probably die of thirst in some desert or hit by a drunk Chinaman. But it is still a fun fantasy
>>1206846
>>1206849
ah well, at this point I consider everything better than to wageslave for my whole life. (because lets face it: school is just wageslaving for children)
I am at a point in my life where I have nothing to lose and many possibilities. I want to see the world and how other people live before I settle for something. Maybe my destiny is to live in a secluded buddhist temple in Myanmar, who knows?
But I will almost certainly do a travel blog so you are free to read along when I travel.
>>1206812
yeah, that's what I thought too.
>>1206813
>>1206837
What zones are you talking about? Is there a part of Myanmar to completely avoid?
>>1206841
And if I try to get a visa when I am still in Germany? Could that work?
Well, it it is too dangerous/difficult to travel through Pakistan I will consider taking an airplane from Iran to India.
Though I would prefer to avoid that because flying with a bike could get pricey.
>>1206844
That's also a cool route and way to travel.
I don't know how much money you will have at your hands but I am uncertain if my money would last if I had to take trains/busses all the time.
Thanks for sharing your route, it helps a lot. I also thought about taking the Transsiberian but to be honest I didn't put much thought into the way back until now.
I wanted to take an airplane but the train is tempting too.
To make some money on the go I want to
a.) Do what I learned at the university. Basically offer my skills on a website and do programming/circuit design.
b.) Start a blog where I write down most of what I experience on my travels and offer small things for small money. Something like sending them a tiny stone from the Himalaya or take a pic with someones name on a specific location. Stuff like that. On this site you can also donate me some bucks if you want to support me.
The blog will basically be my playground for making-money ideas.
c.) Art comissions. I am doing digital art and will take comissions when I can.
>>1206849
It's actually a feasible undertaking. In fact, I plan on doing something similar in the not-so-far-future myself (my final destination will be Japan though). My longest bicycle trip so far was 3600 kilometers so I'm reasonably experienced. Gonna try and do a 5k trip this year to prepare myself even further.
I would absolutely cycle through the deserts of Central Asia as long as it's not in the summer months. June, August and July will likely kill you unless you opt to cycle at night. Other than that the Karakum and Kyzylkum deserts are fair game.
It's a very, very empty region of course but there's still (shitty) roads and traffic and even rail transport there. You're only really fucked if you happen to find yourself in a medical emergency becausee lol tough luck the nearest populated place of significance might just be a couple hundred kilometers away.
The biggest hazard by far are road accidents though, which are largely out of your control. All other risks can be mitigated to a negligible level with careful planning.
OP seems to be an utter retard though so I don't think he's gonna make it.
>>1206873
>>1206876
>(because lets face it: school is just wageslaving for children)
le high school dropout face
>Maybe my destiny is to live in a secluded buddhist temple in Myanmar, who knows?
The edgemeister. What are you 16?
>But I will almost certainly do a travel blog so you are free to read along when I travel.
No. You sound like an idiot and your writing is awful.
>b.) Start a blog where I write down most of what I experience on my travels and offer small things for small money. Something like sending them a tiny stone from the Himalaya or take a pic with someones name on a specific location. Stuff like that. On this site you can also donate me some bucks if you want to support me.
The blog will basically be my playground for making-money ideas.
So begging and ads basically, just what all the other cool internet travelbloggers do.
woooooooooow
>>1206876
>I am also considering taking my guitar with me. That way I could do some live music at locals for a free place to stay the night.
What else so you wanna carry on your bike, a portable fridge?
My God sometimes I just don't know anymore.
>>1206879
University can be called school too you know. And it's pretty silly to insult someone's writing ability when English is their second language.
>>1206881
>And it's pretty silly to insult someone's writing ability when English is their second language.
Yeah, and I usually don't do that.
But if you intend to make mad $$$ by writing an epic travelblog your writing had better be good.
>>1206882
I'm not him
>>1206883
That's legitimately good for you.
>>1206884
kek, thanks I guess
>>1206879
I like you.
OP why not Hitch hiking instead? Or at least a very basic motorcycle/moped, Something cheap that you would learn to assemble/disassemble and fix Under any condition. It would be so time and effort saving, I don't even know how to make it more obvious than it already is.
Never mind other posters humoring you, the way I see it: you'll leave on day 1 with your stove, guitar, laptop, camping gear, spare parts and god knows what else. The time you'll spend "digital nomading" and "experiencing the people" will put you way behind schedule and you'll soon realize you grossly underestimated the time it would take.
Also you'll be always exhausted, and finally I'm not positive you would have exited Germany at that point.
A propelled 2 Wheeler will make it more realistic to carry a heavy load on long distances day in day out.
And don't get me started about cycling the fucking DESERT
Just come to croatia like the rest of germany and be done with it.
>>1206879
What's up with all the hate friendo?
Did you have a bad day?
>>1206881
Thank you
>>1206899
Ahh, the motorcycle thing. I will consider it seriously. My dad is also saying I should do it on a motorcycle.
I also see the benefits but there is something about doing this whole thing on a bike using my own strength that makes me want to do it.
Well I do not plan on doing a strict schedule. If I am exhausted I will stay a few days in one spot. I don't want this to be a chellange of some sorts. I have lots of time and plan on doing this trip for at least 1 year.
But like I said, I will consider doing this on a motorcycle. It surely will be a lot easier to do.
>>1206899
Also I think that the bike has some emotional value to me.
I watched lots of Golden Boy back in the day and I think this whole idea grew up because of this show. (even if I get a few laughs from that)
>>1206873
>And if I try to get a visa when I am still in Germany?
The visa you'll most likely get will expire after 3 months, so you would have to be out of Pakistan again by then.
Another way around Pakistan would be to maybe take a boat from Dubai or Omam to Mumbai. Workers regularly cross the Indian Ocean on that route on Dhows.
>What zones are you talking about? Is there a part of Myanmar to completely avoid?
Mostly in Kachin and Shan States, close to the frontiers with China and Thailand where the army is still genociding some minorities. It's fucked
>>1206920
>Well I do not plan on doing a strict schedule.
What scares me with a loose Schedule is that you may build up some delay that will bit you in the ass when you find yourself in an area a month or two late, and winter kicks in early, for instance.
>>1206926
I just did a quick google maps distance estimation from Germany to Bandar Abbas / Iran. It seems like it will be roughly 9800km.
When I start in June I will have roughly 5 months to flee from the winter.
That will be 65km per day for me to be in Bander Abbas at the beginning of November.
Seems doable. But you are right. A loose schedule is not the best plan before getting to say Mumbai.
Well well, the motorcycle plan seems to get better and better.
>>1206924
I will look into those ferrys you mentioned. If it is possible to avoid Pakistan, I will do so.
Thanks again for your input!
>>1206931
65km a day doesn't sound bad in good conditions, but you would be crossing mountain ranges and bad roads. Motorcycle is definately more realistic.
>>1206933
I did some research on the motorcycle thing and it turns out to be waaay too expensive.
It would basically kill all my savings and I would have to borrow money somewhere which I am not a friend of.
But I think I have an idea.
I will cut off all of scandinavia and Russia. Sadly I will not be able to see Moscow but there is no other solution.
Those countries will be subject to another trip in the future.
This would lower the daily set of km I have to make to 44.
Sounds pretty good to me.
>>1206941
Or I will just man up and do those 65km a day...
>>1206941
>44 kilometers a day
kek
>>1206879
>a_so_salty.jpeg
Fuck off you dumb cunt, jesus. This isn't the most ambitious project I've seen on this site, biking around the world isn't difficult if you have the money and prepare well, and this is OP preparing. It's a question of following through, if he buys his bike and sets off, he will make it. Just telling someone "you can't do it" makes me wonder why you even are on this board. Are you some American who has never left his own state and gets triggered when other people have dreams? You can fuck off in any case unless you have some constructive criticism.
>>1206941
Have you done long distance biking before? I'm fairly unfit, but I did commute by bike to my job a few years back. That was about 50 km round trip, and I did it one way in about 1,5 hours, round trip without break I used 4 hours. And like I said, I'm by no means an athlete. On your modified route, you'll have flat terrain all the way until Romania, i.e. LOTS of time to build up fitness. In a month or two after starting, you'll be able to do 100 km/day without problems. This sounds like a lot, but you'd be surprised.
By the way, they say that if you're in doubt, you're not in doubt. Meaning, if you have doubts about doing this on a bicycle, you probably shouldn't. But people have done epic journies like this before, Rob Lilwall as previously mentioned biked for three years from Siberia to London via Australia, Tibet and Afghanistan. There was a Norwegian who biked from North Cape in Norway to Cape Town a few years ago. I even heard of a middle aged, seriously unfit woman who went on a long trip on a bike successfully, but I can't remember her name or destination. Just google and you'll find loads of people who have done this, and they weren't all super soldiers.
>>1207097
>This isn't the most ambitious project I've seen on this site, biking around the world isn't difficult if you have the money and prepare well,
I'd argue that cycling the world is still very easily of above average difficulty even by RealTraveler™ standards but yes I absolutely agree that it's entirely possible.
>and this is OP preparing
It's a pipe dream at this point. OP hasn't shown anything resembling common sense that might convince me he's not utterly retarded.
>It's a question of following through, if he buys his bike and sets off, he will make it.
Dude even failed to take the fucking climate into account when he made his first itinerary. If you're that oblivious you're either too dumb or not serious enough for project of this scale.
I'm a bikefag myself and I've given constructive criticism in this thread, see >>1206878
I'm the first person to advocate cycling the world. But if OP thinks it's a good idea to bring a fucking guitar on a 10000km bike trip (GOD the stupidity) he's way too delusional about this entire endeavor, and I feel obliged to call him out on it.
>I am at a point in my life where I have nothing to lose and many possibilities. I want to see the world and how other people live before I settle for something. Maybe my destiny is to live in a secluded buddhist temple in Myanmar, who knows?
It can hardly get more cringy than that, let's not kid ourselves.
OP, I am currently doing exactly the same trip in return (started in Hong Kong). I'm in Albania now, so on the home stretch.
Don't go by motorbike. The papers you need the further you stray from Europe are absolutely insane and expensive to acquire. With a bicycle, visas are still a bitch as you have recognized. Russia and Pakistan you'd have to get at home. China is currently impossible to get in Central Asia, the closest solution might be Tiblisi in Georgia. The problem is that they give you 3 months to enter, which is tight. I heard if you ask nicely they might give you 6 months. Also, hope you get a 90 day visa. I only got 60 and it's impossible to cross the whole country on that without taking a train (which I did). A solution that many people follow also is to send your passport home for any of these countries. German law specifically allows you to apply for and carry two passports for this reason.
Another bitch that's easy to underestimate is the seasons. Plan your route well to avoid soaring summer heat and freezing winters in certain countries. You'll find that because of climate, you have to forego many parts of the world, like now I am sticking to the Adria coastline because other parts of the Balkans are way too cold right now, similarly I had to go an indirect route through Iran to avoid 50°C heats in the Kavir desert (see map). Most people start in Europe in winter for this reason: Nice spring temps in Iran and Uzbekistan, Summer for a snow-free ride over the mountains in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, milder autumn climates for China and hitting South East Asia for their mild and dry winter.
By the way, don't plan with a mindset of "In x months I'm going to be there, in y months I'm going to finish" because you almost certainly will take longer. Get the longest visas you can for each country! Nothing sucks more than to rush through a country, getting up each soggy wet morning to cycle 100 ks because of an expiring visa when you'd rather just chill.
>>1207302
Cont.
Do, however, plan a tight budget. It's amazing how cheap you can travel on a bicycle. Camp all the time and abuse the hell out of couchsurfing and warmshowers.org. Once you leave Europe, people's hospitality will increase a lot and you will get invitations to homes, get fed and given a place to stay, without any intent by the hosts other than the opportunity to get to know that crazy foreigner on a bicycle and be village talk for the next few months. I got by on around 100-200 Euro each month excluding visas.
I highly recommend Turkey, Iran, Kyrgyzstan and western China. Europe rains a bit much and is shit for camping apart from the north, Tajikistan had the worst roads I've ever seen (but is beautiful), eastern China is just an overpopulated mess with one ugly city to the next.
If you're cheap on equipment, don't worry so much. I've met people on the way with a bicycle picked up from the junkyard and panniers made from material they found on the side of the road. Be resourceful. Waterproofness is your biggest concern, which can be archived by a couple of trashbags. You WILL nonetheless get soaked through multiple times on the trip and sleep in a pool of water that forms in your tent, shivering in a wet sleeping bag. It's super miserable, but you'll live.
Enjoy.
>>1207307
Mind explaining that map? I suppose the lines are your route but surely the colors must mean something.
>>1207302
>>1207307
How vast and unusual was central Asia and western China? There's something really weird about that region that I can't wrap my head around or put into words, it's almost as if it is just too large, hidden and "unexplored" so to speak. Did you get this feeling at all when biking though it?
>>1207311
Blue is cycling
Red is hitchhiking
Black is train
Yellow is flight
The other colors in northern China and Kazakhstan is me and my girlfriends' solo route - we had to separate for a month because of visa trouble (we have different nationalities). I took a train to the Kazakhstan border and cycled from there to Bishkek, while she took a flight from Urumqi to Bishkek.
Flying Dushanbe-Mashhad was a difficult decision, but the Turkmenistan visa was uncertain (met two people who got denied) and, together with an Uzbek visa, more expensive than the flight. Besides, as it was August, the desert in these countries would've been a bit uncomfortable. So, in that aspect, a bit of a no-brainer to fly instead.
>>1207330
What about the green lines in Turkey and China.
>>1207330
Forgot, green is bus.
>>1207327
It's not unexplored at all. Actually, Central Asia has become quite touristy now, there were quite a few cyclists, motorbikers and backpackers on the road. Major towns have hostels and locals put up a "HOTEL" sign next to their yurt.
Qinghai province of China was much more vast and unexplored in contrast (with much better roads though). It's full of Tibetan people, which share a spot with the Iranians as the most friendly and hospitable bunch I've met.
It is all fantastically beautiful though. Many cyclists describe the Pamir plateau as the most unreal and beautiful area they visited, but in that regard I think Qinghai beats it. In general I prefer the lush valleys and mountains of Kyrgyzstan though.
>>1207330
>biking eurasia
>with his girlfriend
Well you're living the dream, you lucky bastard. I'm not OP, but a similar trip (Oslo-Singapore by bike) has been my pipedream for the better part of this decade, mind telling us about what kind of equipment you have, and how much money you saved up before setting off?
>>1207357
Thanks. Equipment is nothing special, I wanted to save budget for the actual trip. Right bike is mine, basically I walked into a bike factory outlet to ask them about a touring bike and they brought me this reinforced MTB with extra bottle cage mounts. Cost me around 200 Euro. Gf got off even better, she used a Merida given to her by a friend. Panniers are the cheapest Ortliebs which are magically still waterproof and holding on, everything else is strapped on top. Most of the other gear like camping gear and clothes comes from Decathlon. Their shops are awesome for cheap gear that is not totally shit. For cooking I use a simple butane gas stove with an adapter to mount most of the different bottles sold around the world. If nothing is available, an alcohol stove made from a beer can works surprisingly well.
I saved about EUR7000, and it might well carry me another one or two years from now on. Surprisingly it's my girlfriend who often insists on camping instead of paying for a cheap place and helps me to save some money.
>>1207364
No shit, when I look at that map myself I'm disappointed by the lack of blue on there. But there wasn't much I could do, visas demanded it. I hope to not take any other transport anymore except ferries. Plan to cycle the Americas afterwards, the visa pressure should be much lower there as all the countries are 90-180 days visa free...
Blog if anyone wants to read more:
www.dreamunlimited.net
>>1207110
I do some 2-3 day biking in the Black Forest every now and then. But there are many hills/mountains so I do not make many kilometres a day. I mainly go there for the nature not for sports.
That trip to Hong Kong is certainly another league but I am not completely untrained.
>By the way, they say that if you're in doubt, you're not in doubt.
I am your typical german guy. We like to think things through before we do anything. I will criticize myself in everything I will ever do but in the end I think this is a good thing because this is a way of self reflection.
If I would drop everything that I have doupts about I wouldn't get to do anything.
>>1207302
>>1207307
>>1207398
Thank you for contributing! Much valuable information you shared there, will definitely check out your blog.
And thanks for strengthening my decision to go by bike after all.
Do you have 7000€ to spend including the costs for visa or excluding the costs for visa?
Do you think 3000-4000€ would suffice for that trip if I can make lets say 300€ per month on the go?
As I said: I really want to take an instrument with me.
My irish bouzouki will be a bit too large I think. Do you guys think I can take a mandolin with me instead? Or is this a bad idea? I thought also about taking an ocarina with me (because of the small size) when I can't take a string instrument.
Does somebody have experience with instruments while traveling?
>>1207625
how about a piano
>>1207621
Including visas, yes.
4000 is enough if you are ok to live frugal without paying for accommodation most nights, food from supermarkets and the occasional street food.
>>1207628
We got us a new meme.
>>1207625
>Does somebody have experience with instruments while traveling?
I once took my Saxophon with me to sweden. It was heavy and it sucked. The end.
(Instruments are just Objekts that vary in size and weight. You do the math)
>>1206941
>I did some research on the motorcycle thing and it turns out to be waaay too expensive.
How so? The biggest hurdle seems to be bureaucratic hassle to me. As this anon >>1207302 says.
>>1207330
I've never really looked into it much, but is it difficult and expensive to fly with your bicycle (or motorbike)?
>>1206801
>Is it in any way an advantage for me to have a Bachelor degree in terms of getting visa?
Anyone?
>>1208370
Well I would have to do the license to drive one. That would cost at least 1500€. Then I would have to buy a motorcycle for ~1000€.
Plus as you said there will be problems with getting visa...
Since the thread is dying, here is my gear list with the stuff that I bought already. I know that there is still a thing or two to buy so no bully pls. But if you have comments/criticism let me hear it.
- Panther TK-9 bike (any experiences with the NuVinci gearshift?)
- Eureka Bighorn 2XDi + Footprint
- Therm-A-Rest Neoair All Season
- Cumulus Comforter M400
- Cocoon Mummy Liner
- Optimus Nova Multifuel stove
- Ka-Bar USN Mk1
- Meru Outdoor Sports Towel
- Mil-Tec Folding saw
- a standard lightweight steel pot (forgot the brand)
- Sawyer Mini
I have also a hobo stove (the Bushbox XL from Bushcraft Essentials) but probably won't take it with me. It is too heavy for what it does in my opinion. I think I am better off just doing regular campfires.
>>1209068
Just some thoughts (from a camper's perspective)
- The Sawyer is a good filter, but you should have a backup. Bring some purification tablets, maybe a UV pen (runs off batteries).. definitely make sure you have a good system for clean/unfiltered containers. In my experience, worthwhile to use a bandana to pre-filter water so the Sawyer doesn't clog, and protect it from freezing as well.
- Don't rely on campfires so much. They're not that easy or guaranteed, depending on the biomes you're crossing. I would suggest a stove system that is adaptable for different gas systems. I use and love my Esbit alcohol stove, it's small and can boil water easily.
- Put some thought into your clothes. Sun exposure will be a big thing, so maybe look into shirts that have UV protection.. definitely a good hat and glasses. Wool is fucking awesome for most things, and will help with cold nights camping.