What is the worst city you have visited outside of your home

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Athens.

Hot and boring concrete shit-hole. Practically every building and surface that isn't of historical interest is covered in graffiti and the city itself is ugly and horribly polluted. You can't see far from on top of the Acropolis because of smog.

There's nothing of interest to see outside of the Acropolis, Greek Museum, and handful of other attractions.

Massively overrated tourist destination.

>>1141425

I thought Casablanca was a dump. None of the cool architecture or bustling market feel of the other big cities in Morocco, and it smelled like poop everywhere

Paris. The amount of immigrants in the city was staggering. It didn't even feel European never mind French. I'll never go back.

>>1141434
>the population of Paris exists to satisfy some basement dewellers idealized expectation of "muh classy France"

Probably Singapore.

35-40C every single day and so humid it feels like 45. The city is clean because everywhere you look there's migrant workers from the indian subcontinent sweeping all day (they keep these guys in tiny shacks and dormitories hidden from the rest of the city).

This constant push for cleanliness seems to have stripped the place of its heart and soul, almost devoid of culture. And then a disgusting old chinese man will gob phlegm right next to you and you'll realise what a place of utter contradiction it is.

Talking of the residents, every single person i had the misfortune of interacting with was unfriendly and had a huge chip on their shoulder for some reason. It's as if they wanted to have an argument with you, that they thought themselves better than you because they lived in Singapore, even though i'm sure it's in a tiny one-room flat.

The underground metro system is cheap and efficient though. I was quite impressed. So long as you don't break your neck getting on the escalator with the speed they're set to.

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Winnipeg, Canada

It was full of psychotic dirty natives who looked like they wanted to stab you. Night is the scariest thing on earth there. If you went downtown after sunset you had to move quickly or be attacked by sketchy natives asking for cigarettes and spare change, sometimes getting violent. Even in the day there is one okayish spot and even that is flooded with mouthwash drinking native crackheads.

Native canadians are a dead culture and the zombies are terrifying

>>1141437
#rekt

I might get flack for this but I could not wait to get out of San Francisco. The streets were way too crowded and uncomfortable and everything was just too hustle and bustle everywhere I went.

>>1141437
Aside from a few japanese people, i don't think anyone dreams of romance in Paris these days. More like durka durka jihads with assault rifles; the bodies of frenchmen piling up on the streets.

>>1141460
I remember seeing chart posted a year or two ago showing Winnipeg has a higher crime and homicide rate in L.A.. I keked.

>>1141465
Did you just stay on Market st or something faggot? Literally no where in SF is actually like that except for maybe the wharf in the peak season.

>>1141504
>higher crime and homicide rate in L.A..
*than L.A.

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drove through Colac in Australia like 15 years ago on family vaccation. We stayed at a motel. Place gave me a creepy feeling.
First thing I see when we enter town is a gunstore (i was like 9 and european, guns aren't a thing here).

Motel we stayed at was ok. Looked very 70s.
Local grocery store wasn't inviting at all, very boring and cold interior. There was a weird girl who followed us around inside, and outside she took off with a random shopping cart and almost crashed with her mom who was waiting outside for some reaosn? idk.

Later at the motel there was a crime documentary on tv, and we heard gunshots during the night.

Never really saw the town since we left in the morning.. so not sure if this really counts.
But it left a mark on me since I remember it so well all those years ago.

Jeruzolim Izrael. I just cannot stand jews. ..

>>1141609
Jerusalem was probably not a good choice of destinations for you, then. I also recommend avoiding New York.
>>1141425
I didn't enjoy Sintra, Portugal much--read so much about its beauty, etc., but didn't expect it to feel so hollowed-out. It felt as though nobody lived there. Four or five semi-interesting buildings and a bunch of lousy tourist-garbage shops and restaurants. Felt like being in a theme park more than a town. We only figured out after we left that there's a modern town down the street where locals actually live.

Not sure what the city is but those military check points in Mexico just freak me out

Really disliked Berlin. Most of the city depressed the hell out of me. Doesn't help that I also hate germans and the worst of them are concentrated in Berlin

>>1141425

Manila.

Filthy, constantly being harassed and the ever present feeling of being checked for valuables.

The place is a dive, if you ever fly into manila your first impressions are that you leave the airport and drive straight through a slum.

Never again.

Avignon, plus surrounding area. There's nothing to do except for visiting food markets and vineyards and it's a really unpleasant place to visit if you're not fluent in French, people will just randomly scream at you if you for some reason don't hear them or can't understand what they're saying.

>Bielefeld

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>>1141644
Can you expand in this? I have a 3 week trip planned in October to Philippines and we are supposed to stay in Manilla for 4 days.

Ireland. Loved seeing everything. After a few days though, I was getting restless staying there. This was Dublin though.

Oslo, overpriced, dull and boring.

>>1141425
>outside of your home country?
Manila
>What made it so bad?
Terrible weather, terrible people, ugly city

Inside of my home country?
San Antonio, TX
Why is it so bad?
hmm.....same thing actually

>>1141437
I had a hard time dealing this as well. Also, wannabe frog nig detected.

>>1141430
You forgot the packs of stray dogs roaming the streets.

>>1141460
i live in winnipeg
the southern half isnt bad, going out at night isnt that scary. just stay out of the north end

>>1141442
Did you check out the Arab district? I had 2 days in Singapore on the way back from Japan and checked that place out, it was very nice and - even better - there were not many actual Arabs, it's mostly a historic title. I had amazing iced coffee there one morning, was pretty much the highlight of Singapore.

The museum was underwhelming after Tokyo's national museum thingo though, even though I thought that the plunders of the British Empire would be there lmao.

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>>1141554
Haha rural Australia will do that to you, a lot of it's been transformed by tourism mostly from the cities so many areas are very nice.

Biggest shithole I've ever been through is Queenstown, Tasmania, seriously the most fucked and weird place I've ever been.

The entire surrounding landscape was cleared for timber and mining in like the 20s and because of a massive industrial furnace in the town, acid rain plagued the area for years, almost nothing has regrown since the soil's so chock-full of acid. Seriously, you go from the middle of some of the most beautiful temperate rainforest to basically lunar landscape.

But of course the mine has closed down, so basically everyone in the town's fucking unemployed, all my life in Australia I've never come as close to being actually jumped than I did in this town in the middle of the fucking day on a family holiday through the western wilderness. Like these groups of feral kids just roam the town with nothing to do, I was eating outside a fish and chip shop and they came up and started asking me some shit, I can't remember but I could tell I was in trouble, I think the owner thankfully told them to fuck off though. FUCK this place, was there for like an hour and the whole time I could hear these ferals screaming at each other from like a block away.

>>1141434
at worst you could call it overated, go back to /b/

>>1142587

hello, i live in aix en provence, i'm glad someone yelled at you.

Chișinău, Moldova. All the charm and cultural sophistication of Soviet brutalist architecture and Soviet brutalism. Expensive as fuck for being a shithole, too.

>>1142847
>Expensive as fuck
Christ, I would not have expected that at all. Isn't Moldova the poorest country in Europe?

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>>1141425
Not overly fond of cities, per se -- I see what I want to see in one, then get out into the country and small towns and natural stuff.

That said,I can;t think of a city I particularly hated. Edinburgh is, I think, over rated and I'd skip it if I went back to Scotland. Abu Dhabi was worth seeing once, but I would not bother to go back in the unlikely event I get back to the UAE. Other than the big festival during Golden Week, I would not see much reason to go to Hamamatsu, though the festival is amazing, especially if you can get hooked up with some of the neighborhood street parties

>>1142842
I am a Brit who isn't fluent in French, I agree

Not really a city as much as it is a bunch of trailers and a youth correction centre but Tuba City, Arizona is one of the poorest and most depressing places in the world that I've been to, especially as it contrasts so heavily with the sterile and pointless opulence of Phoenix (not that Phoenix isnt hell in its own way)

>>1141437
>somebody goes to Paris
>they expect to see french people
Is this really unreasonable to you?

>>1141434
MUUUUH IMMIGRANTS

Can't really decide for just one city :

Dubai/Abu Dhabi. Least interesting spot on the planet., least interesting people on the planet. Everything is new and fake.

Grozny, went there 1 week for work. It stinks. Super rich oligarch and mafioso on one side, opressed poor muslims on the other side.

To pick one from Western countries :
Miami. In one word : superficial.

Paris. Aggressive blacks, gypsies and muslims everywhere. I hate French people anyway, but even I wouldn't want their capital to turn into this.

>>1142590
If Bielefeld is your worst city visited, then you haven't travelled much... It's nothing too special, but it's not bad. There are many far worse places in Germany.

>>1143294
Like what?

>>1143203
Same.
Paris is a complete shame considering how great the rest of France is.

>>1141635
I too am rubbed the wrong way by many Germans.

I visited Venice during the dog days. It was like an inescapable sauna from hell. Then you would put your head over the canal and you were transported to an arctic paradise.

I guess I'm a lucky traveler.

Colombo, Sri Lanka

Dirty, dusty and boring. Spread out and lacks any coherence or feel too it. Chaotic traffic and no pedestrian areas, most places dont even have sidewalks.


Got the fuck out of there as fast as possible. Absolutely loved the rest of Sri Lanka though

I'd go with istanbul. Wasn't really that bad but I didn't find it as interesting as I hoped for.

>>1142828
I only stopped there for one day. After that i just wanted to get out. If there's one thing the place is well-known for it's the food, but malaysia is next door and it's much cheaper.

I may give it a second chance sometime soon, if only to see the airport.

Delhi. It's every bad stereotype of India come true.

>DESIGNATED - people really do shit on the street
>as a white guy, always get surrounded by beggars
>get terrible diarrhea from food
>everyone is out to scam you
>dirty, smelly
>nothing ever works, no one knows what's going on

>>1143186
>there are black people in the capital of a country that used to own half of Africa

what a shocker

>>1143390
How many Congolese live in Belgium?

>>1143393
I lived in Brussels for a year. Lots of black people there as well, most of them are probably from Congo.

>tfw u are the only person on this board who likes Paris

>>1143400
>most of them are probably from Congo
>from Congo

Gross, I bet you could smell them from a mile away.

Paris has always been full of poor blacks and muslims since the 60s.
People ranting about what 'it has become' have no idea what paris looked like in its belle epoque golden years.

New york and London are way less white anyway but no one ever complains about that, why? Or maybe you do too.
Watching woody allen and 'big apple sitcoms' and expecting everything to be manhattan like, all glossy and sexy and sleek, full of elegance and culture and opportunity is fucking immature.

Consider the fact that the Londoner living in belgravia hates the middle class prole who can only window shop that lifestyle while he's staying at cheapo generator hostel just as much as the homeless dude begging for beer money.

All of the middle class are brainwashed into hypocrisy.
The fact is, Parisian luxury real estate mostly belongs to the 0.01% from qatar, dubai, libya, ivory coast, and african ormer colonies. Just like chinese took over vancouver luxury RE. But the rich brown people being wealthier than you poor occidental envious fucks ruins the narrative of brown=poor/white=rich so I never hear you talk about this.

Wealthy darkies and their dictator corrupt blood money, their lucked up oil fortunes, laugh at you fucks all the way to the bank joining along the corrupt chinese 1%, the post-soviet oligarch, and the undeserving inherited white entitled global elites.

Paris would be a shithole without foreign dirty capital from the (former) 3rd world.

>>1143723
>Watching woody allen and 'big apple sitcoms' and expecting everything to be manhattan like, all glossy and sexy and sleek, full of elegance and culture and opportunity is fucking immature

There wasn't much elegant and sleek about Woody Allen's Manhattan. Everything looked like shit. The real Manhattan is much better.

>>1143723

So how many luxury apartments do the nogs pushing Eiffel tower keyrings or scamming Chinese tourists with the bracelet trick own?

How many bugattis do the Bulgarian gypsies rifling through your pockets on the metro own?

How much does the rucksack wearing muslim about to detonate in the Gare du Nord after beheading the local bishop contribute to the economy?

>>1141430
Stayed there for 6 days and thought it was great.
I went to the beach every day after doing some cultural stuff. Pretty good and Plaka & Acropolis area is GOAT. The other hill right next to acropolis (with socrates' prison) is a great drinking spot

>>1143522
the buses and metros are awful. Not only does the negro smell bad due to other sweatcomposition, but the negro has the need to constantly talk to people over the phone while being way too loud.

Brussels is a boring shithole apart from the tiny city-square. I commute every day and it depresses me

Izmir in Turkey, utter shit show of a city, full of conmen selling fake shit and the taxi drivers work with them

>>1143814
All of Turkey is shit

>>1141460
>winnipeg is a frozen shithole

>>1141425
rome

>>1142828
Arab district is pretty based. Lots of great food, cafes, and hipstery shops (like Haji Lane). It was always one of my favourite places to just hang around during the few months I was in Singapore.

Nowhere really stands out for me - I've never been anywhere I've straight up hated...

Delhi is filthy, busy and full of packs of dogs at night. Auckland has traffic as bad as anywhere. Beijing is a disjointed, grey, dusty, concrete shithole with a harsh climate. Colombo is draining after a few days. Phnom Penh is basic as fuck. Singapore's too sanitised but it's a great city, probably the most cosmopolitan place I've been in Asia.

But I wouldn't say any of them were 'so bad'.. Maybe I'm easily pleased, but they've all got their own charm.

>>1142832

>I'm a liberal pretending not to notice the refugee disaster for what it actually is and the instability it has caused.

>>1143755

Rekt..... well done sire. It's good to see someone against this liberal poison.

>>1141425
New York City

Jews

>>1143899
>>1143755
samefag

>>1143333
Germans are so neurotic they're impossible to live with. like they can't comprehend, let's meet up for drinks in a week, it has to be an exact place, time, and date, and theyll be livid if you're 15 minutes late. bunch of wierdos.

>>1143190
What is wrong with new? What do you mean by fake and by superficial?

>>1143960
Haha
I have a german grandma and this is the realest thing about germans I've ever read.

>>1143964
One time my German roomate went off on some annoying blonde bitch about what real chocolate is because she said that she and her friends tested every kind of chocolate there is. All of the chocolates known to man are apparently just gas station chocolate bars.

>>1143968
He was probably referring to kinder

All other chocolate is shit compared to it
American chocolate that is

>>1142590

>Bielefeld

lol what

First why even visit. Munster and Bremen are much better tourist destinations

>>1141430
This. Was about to post Athens then I saw it on the first post.
Disgusting place.

>>1141644
>>1142770
LOL. Gringo detected. American born Filipino here and Manila was perfectly fine. That being said, it may be overwhelming for white tourists to travel to Manila. Why not, next time you get a guide? Learn some more? Every city has its slums, and Manila is no different.

You really can't drive from the airport to your hotel without driving through the slums/seeing squatters. They are camped out under the highway, on the side of the street, and in every small roadway. Unless you look like a white tourist and smell like money, you won't be harassed.

It is filthy but there are nice parts in Quezon City/richer areas.

For your 3 week trip, enjoy. Don't be too white. Get a tan, grow your beard.

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Cebu City, Philippines. A seething cesspit of poverty, squalor & degeneracy. Buildings in various stages of decomposition / decay crammed full of desperately poor locals, pot-holed rods snarled with traffic (no highways or railways), keen-eyed criminals lurking in the shadows ready to pounce on any wayward tourist who takes a wrong turn out of the downtown shopping / hotel district. It's dangerous*, depressing & there isn't much to do besides escape to Bohol or Panglao, or gamble at the (surprisingly well appointed) casino, or fuck local women for cheap.

* I last visited 10yrs ago so the situation may have improved, perhaps moreso since Dirty Harry took over.

>>1141442

Sterile & soulless, yes, and the modern day slavery racket they run on the curry munchers is deplorable, but surely it must be better for them than whatever filthy shithole they call home back in Bangladesh/India.

The ridiculous price of alcohol served in a bar/restaurant is also a major detractor, as is their ridiculous officiousness and penchant for spelling out rules at every fucking opportunity.

The one redeeming quality is the disgustingly hot women you can see on Orchard Rd & surrounds. Nowhere else in Asia have I seen such a concentration of sexy girls.

>>1143186
I guess if traveling for you is about confirming your pre-learned ideas about how the world is supposed to look, then you are doing it wrong.

>>1144003
Canadian born filipino here and you're acting like he isn't right. Manila is a shit hole. My least favourite SEAsian city. At least the other cities have a good food culture.

>>1142773
Damn. Wanted to go next year.

>>1143833
Damn, say it isn't so. I want to visit someday.

>>1143960
That actually sounds refreshing. I spent most of my life in Seattle and California and people are very flaky there.

>>1144247
This. It's like going to China to couchsurf with Shaolin monks and pandas.

Memphis.

While the one cool street was pretty great and the model train museum was a highlight if you venture one street back it is all ghetto.

I mean I know they don't hav e jobs but don't they have tv's. Why is everyone on the street.

Manila

It's literally a cyberpunk city brought into the real world. So unless you like that dystonia feel, avoid at all cost.
Plus, the heat can be pretty fucking terrible, especially when it's raining.
Go to Cebu instead or something.

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I've only travelled in Europe and I must say that every time I go to Belgrade I'm disgusted. The zoo is pretty cool, although I've seen better

>>1143755
>"local bishop"
>paris
this isn't the 30s we're talking about here anon
nowadays it's also not the gypsies stealing shit from dumb loud tourists in the métro, it's regular "ghetto" french 20 somethings
if you're stupid enough to not notice your shit being pickpocketed despite the métro repeating "please keep your belongings with you at all times" and "beware of pickpockets" 24/7 then it's on you for not paying fucking attention, tough luck
Paris and parisians do not give a shit about tourists, if you have a bad experience:
1. you didn't follow the guidelines/advice that's all over the city
2. there's 10 people waiting in line to spend $$$ while you sob in a corner

>>1141425
>outside of your home country
youre making it hard because the shitfest that is Berlin overshadows every negative experience ive had elsewhere

my vote goes to Oulu just for having nothing to offer while the whole surrounding area was so gorgeous. I think it would be a top place to live there permanently or visit in the summer though.

>>1145089
literally the answer to your question is niggers

>>1141430
Sadly I have to agree

Karachi
Seriously, Paris? Bielefeld? You kids are too first world

>>1141434
>>1141609
>>1143190
>>1143203
>>1143723
>>1143960
Sad to see so many racists on /trv/

>>1143960
>bunch of wierdos
absolute topkek

>>1145111
Actual Parisian here. You're 10 years late.
"Ghetto" dudes are now too busy joining ISIS.
Petty crimes are now still done by gypsies.

>>1145194
Actual Parisian here too
je sais pas quelles lignes tu prends mais c'est pas ce que je constate au quotidien, personellement.
If anything j'ai vu des gamins syriens/migrants (terrifiés, d'ailleurs, et sans expèrience dans le domaine) ces derniers temps mais les roms et autres gens du voyage d'europe de l'Est c'est passé, chez moi

>>1143812

I hope you get BTFO'd in the next terrorist attack, which you probably will. :^)

AMSTERDAM

It's incredibly tiny.
People are rude as fuck.
Every restaurant we went too was terrible and overpriced.
Coffee shops are terrible, the staff is rude, the clients are shitheads too.
Everything is overpriced.
Kept getting approached for hard drugs.
Most of the tourists are wankers looking to get obliterated on weed.
Weather is mostly shit too.

>>1145205
>>People are rude as fuck.
Dutch can be direct, but generally in a friendly way.

>>1143190
Could anyone explain to me why this post is considered racist?

>>1141425
Salamanca and Madrid.

Spanish people are fucking dicks.

>>1145197
1, 2, 3, 4 et 12.

Lol, les enfants "syriens" ne sont rien d'autre que des gitans déguisés. Ca te fait salam aleykoum avec un sourire et une fois qu'ils retournent dans les jupes de leur mère, ça parle en une langue bizarrement latine...

>>1141554

You sound like a pussy. That street looks COMFY as fuck. Gun store owners are also about the nicest folk you will ever meet. In general, every one I've met would give you the shirt off their back if you were cold.

>>1141504
>Winnipeg has a higher crime and homicide rate than L.A.

Heh. Fucking leaves.

Western world: Milan, Italy. Garbage and graffiti everywhere (and yes, Athens is far worse in those respects, but it at least has cool history and some natural beauty. Milan has none). Worst major European city, IMO.
Third world: Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Full of morons and conspiracy theorists ("Dominicans/white devils are keeping us down"). Absolutely nothing to see there unless you enjoy poverty safaris and looking poors sitting in concrete houses.

>>1144393
Go to Oslo in the summer and it's great

Adding to the votes for Manila. I had a local girl show me around and literally all there was to see was the fucking shopping malls. That's where everyone hangs out. The whole city has ridiculous traffic, such that it basically forces you to stay in a small area. The only redeeming factor to the city was the easy local girls but there are plenty of better places for that. Cebu is much, much better.

As far as places that aren't on every traveler's shitlist, I'd say Shanghai. Everything is an immense hassle there, it's ridiculously overpriced, and so many of the locals are horribly rude and entitled. I spent a week there and ended up giving up on mainland China and fleeing to Taiwan after, which I fucking LOVED.

>>1145205
Have to disagree on this one. Amsterdam is one of the chillest cities on earth. I don't know why the cops tolerate the roaches approaching you trying to sell shit, but you just have to wave them off like you would in any 3rd world country.

>>1145325
The mall thing is a feature of most of south-east asia. It's so hot all day everybody just flocks to the air-conditioned malls.

>>1145272
The DR has instituted racist actions towards Haitians in the past and present. Of course it didn't help that Haiti invaded the DR when they were founded.

>>1145415
>racist actions
You make it sound like they discouraged interracial marriage or something. It was more or less a genocidal killing spree directed against Haitians living or traveling in or through the areas of the DR close to Haiti

But yeah, not a conspiracy theory, there are legitimate grievances

>>1145420
There are legitimate grievances, and there are "the earthquake was a Dominican plot against Haiti"-type beliefs, which I found were VERY common.

>>1141430
This

>>1144003
>Every city has its slums
This is not true at all. Worse off areas? Sure. Slums? For fucks sake this isn't the norm.

>>1141434
I went to Paris a year or two ago and I didn't notice this.
I know the refugee crisis is a problem but I wasn't flooded by them everywhere I went.
Maybe visit nicer areas? No clue what to tell you, maybe it's confirmation bias, but I noticed a lot more Chinese and Japanese in France, even in places like Tours and St. Michel than Muslims.

>>1145415
>racist actions
like what ?

>>1145226

Yeah i don't get why it can be considered racist. The best trip i ever did was probably in Iran.

>>1141442
I've travelled to many cities around the world, and despite the obvious shortcomings of third-world cities, I find Singapore to the be least enjoyable place on earth. It is modern and clean, but somehow they managed to brainwash an entire country to suck the cock of an authoritarian regime hell bent on making life dull, boring and stable, the worst part is that people seem to be fine with that. There is nothing fun or even remotely noteworthy about Singapore.

Honourable mentions:
Siam Reap - too many disfigured amputee beggars - this is the US's fault

Every city in Italy - one can't shake the feeling that Italians just don't give a shit about keeping their country clean, they are unsafe and inconsiderate drivers, they litter their own beaches and their restaurants suck

>>1141554
Colac is not a city, but I know what you mean.

>>1145535
Maybe it depends why you go to Singapore? I just went there and was interested in it mostly for its historical significance, so spent a lot of time seeing ww2 stuff and also Pulau Ubin (indigenous Malay area). Both things were good, and on my quest to see them I got to see a lot of the city which was enjoyable.

>>1145325
>girl took you to shopping malls

You dumbfuck. Not even Intramuros/Fort Santiago? Metro Manila isn't much, but Makati is near by.

>>1145205
Let me guess, you never ventured outside of Dam Square, Leidseplein, Reimbrandtplein and Museumplein right? Amsterdam is one of the best cities in Europe, if you go out of the tourists traps.

>>1145453
Well, considering that the UN caused a huge cholera epidemic that killed a ton of people and then engaged in coverups and denials that persist to this day, you can't be too hard on them for believing in conspiracy theories.

>>1145554
Even those places are still pretty good comparatively.

>>1145325
Tell me more about Taiwan. How would you compare Taiwan to Mainland China?

>>1141425
Tijuana

>>1145511
>>>1144003
>>Every city has its slums
I agree, that's not true. Europe has very few slums.

>Madrid.

In a country with such beauty as Toledo, the banging party scene of Seville and the architecture of Barcelona, Madrid really was just a dirty, run down shithole.

I went out on a bar crawl with a bunch of guys from my hostel, they gathered us beforehand to give us a lecture about pick-pocketing, during the lecture, two random guys in the group got up and ran off, turned out they were pickpockets.

>>1145111
faaaaaaaaaggit.

>>1143833
Nope.

Istanbul is great and most of the country is gorgeous with great food and generally friendly people

Shame about the government tho

>>1145176
>Buzzwords being used as derogatory
The word racist no longer carries any strength, you guys need to find another straw word.

Barcelona

except muh Gaudi, it's a brown shithole full of drug pusher gyppos, tourists and smelly natives

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>>1144003
>Every city has its slums

Uhhh, no. It's one thing to have projects, trailer parks, government subsidized housing, or homeless encampments, but slums are an entirely different beast of fucked up.

>>1143334
Venice as in venice italy? It's touristy af but I definitely liked it

I don't really have a worst city, tend to avoid big cities mostly concrete smelly places

>>1145109
whaaat, I've been there this summer, sure it looks kinda crappy but I loved the city, good food nice people

>>1145405
Yep, but usually there are other interesting things around too. Manila didn't have much - only some minimal historical sites.

>>1145597
It's really nothing like it at all in terms of how it feels to a tourist. Yes, people in both can speak mandarin, and they have lots of shared dishes, but there wasn't much other overlap culturally. Taiwanese were incredibly friendly and polite, Taipei is a very liveable city full of parks, everything works as it should in a 1st world country. And everyone seemed to more or less speak basic English in Taipei so getting around was easy. Oh and the girls were the cutest I've seen in any Asian country by far.

Basically I'd call China a 2nd world country where people in large cities also have a major attitude problem, and Taiwan is just like a regular 1st world country where people are also abnormally friendly.

>>1145739
Thanks for the response. Taiwan sounds wonderful. I'm going to China for four months this autumn (exchange student thing) and trying to figure out places to go during weekends. Definitely adding Taiwan to my list, I've read good things about it on most places I've looked.

What do you recommend doing in Taiwan to get a sense of the place? Visiting Taipei of course, but is there anything else in particular that you enjoyed?

>>1142829
nooooo!

>>1141635
Hated Berlin, cold people, piss everywhere, kind of expensive, never felt like there was much to do, not very walkable

>>1145554
>tourist traps

Why do people on /trv/ use this term to criticise the main reasons to actually visit a place?

'Tourist traps' are popular for a reason.

>>1145739
Worth mentioning that Chiang Kai Shek and Japanese colonialism made Taiwan what it is today while China is still reeling from Maoism.

Albuquerque, New Mexico

full of racist hicks and hostile to anyone not a blue collar white american

>>1141442
William Gibson called it "Disneyland with the death penalty"

I liked the food stalls. I got hammered at the cricket club in the middle if the city. That was fun but of course it was all expats.

Wouldn't go again.

>>1145176
3 and 5 weren't racist.

5 was in defence of the ethnic diversity in Paris. His point was that it's been like that for a long time and that romanticising "what Paris used to be" was stupid.
And in defence of number 3. Unless you're rich as hell, Dubai is boring. Hell I got lucky because my work paid for loads of shit when I was there. And it still wasn't all that outside of the, how should I put this, playground area I guess.

>>1145640
God damn I love Seville. I went down there to see a band play when I lived in Spain. Decided to stay for a few days after I saw them.
The restaurants are crazy good. Like, "Holy fuck how did you even come up with this" kind of good.
Bars are fantastic. I just wish they stayed open later. The city kind of closes down after 3am.

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>>1141635
>hates germans
>visits Berlin

>>1146395
>Unless you're rich as hell, Dubai is boring.

I am not rich as Hell. I had a good time there.

It is not cheap, and of course whether you have fun depends on what you like to do -- if you are looking to take hikes through the magnificent forests, for example, Dubai will be boring as fuck.

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>>1146360
It's a Real Traveler thing --

Why not start in my home country?
Paterson NJ
Baltimore MD
Springfield MA
Pretty much every city along that drug corridor 95 from Florida to Maine

>>1141460
>outside your home country
Why did you go to Winnipeg, and where from?

Pisa, there's nothing fucking noteworthy about that city except that stupid tower. It made me mad seeing all those tourist hordes there when virtually any other Italian city is better.

>>1143334
I lived for a year in a town near Venice so I had the opportunity to visit it a few times during low season and it's a much more pleasant experience. However, once you've been there a few times and learn your way around you can easily escape the crowds, I was once there in mid July and barely saw anyone once I got off the main streets.

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>>1141442
Dunno how my uncle and his family live there if it's "such a shithole"... plus worse since it's in my intinerary for an uncoming trip, being the branch of a cheap flight into Aus.

Guess I'll see for myself.

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>>1143814
> Turkey
> Izmir
> full of conmen selling fake shit

That's all of Turkey famalam, I never understood the Turkroach meme until I visited there myself.

Honestly? Paris. Paris was godawful. Everything was grey and cold and awful the people were rude, there were conmen and beggars everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Nowhere we went had an English menu by request (which you could reasonably expect in one of the biggest tourism cities in the world). To top if off, we were wading through literal MOUNDS of cigarette butts and the sidewalks were painted with pidgeon shit. The whole city was just disgusting.

>>1145176
Being called racist in 2016 is like being called a fag by a 12 year old 5 years ago. It has no meaning anymore.

>>1141460
You think that's bad you should check out all the gang violence in portage la prairie and Quebec. It's fucking batshit crazy.

>>1145514
Blatant discrimination. Throwing out Haitians who have been living there for some generations. Not to mention that Dominicans are the most racist Hispanics toward those of African decent outside of Cubans.

>>1146723
Why wouldn't you take advantage when your prime minister is a literal cuckold?

>>1145415
>The DR has instituted racist actions towards Haitians in the past and present.
So? stay in your side of the island and you won't be "oppressed".

>>1145415
>Of course it didn't help that Haiti invaded the DR when they were founded.
Yeah that's not even talking about how many people you slaughtered, raped, mugged, all the towns you destroyed, all the trees your people are cutting down to make charcoal, etc.

>>1147314
>all that shit
>by you
fuck off you paid haitian shill.

>>1147459
trujillo pls gb2/grave

>>1147462
t. Jean-Pierre Boyer

Fuck off.

>>1147467
jokes aside, please to /pol/ though, you've shat up every thread on page 0 in the last hour with your garbage. yes, I can tell which posts are yours.

>>1147473
>you've shat up every thread on page 0 in the last hour with your garbage.
What? the fuck is this bullshit, i just posted in this thread cause i am dominican and it upsets me that some haitian nog gets away telling a bunch of lies about us, i haven't posted in any other thread.

>>1147476
it's not a lie though, all genocide happens for a reason, as you said, some dominicans were mad at black haitians due to reasons, so in return, massacres. stating the pretext for the massacre doesn't make it a lie to say the massacre happened.

>>1147481
If you don't like us, just go back to your goddamn country and leave us alone, nobody is forcing you to stay, there in your country you won't be "discriminated".

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>>1147484
>If you don't like us, just go back to your goddamn country and leave us alone
It's ironic that you should say that to me, an american living with dominican immigrants in the apartment below, the apartment above, and both apartments on the same floor as me. if I had a problem with dominicans I wouldn't live among them, and you're the ones coming to my country so calm down.

I've got no connection to haiti, I'm just interested in the history of the DR, and also the tits and asses of the DR

>>1147488
The massacre goes way deeper than simple hatred or racism, haitians were settling in our side of the island, stealing cattle and such from the poor dominican campesinos that lived in the border.

>For some months, I have traveled and traversed the border in every sense of the word. I have seen, investigated, and inquired about the needs of the population. To the Dominicans who were complaining of the depredations by Haitians living among them, thefts of cattle, provisions, fruits, etc., and were thus prevented from enjoying in peace the products of their labor, I have responded, 'I will fix this.' And we have already begun to remedy the situation. Three hundred Haitians are now dead in Bánica. This remedy will continue

>Due to inadequate roadways connecting the borderlands to major cities, "Communication with Dominican markets was so limited that the small commercial surplus of the frontier slowly moved toward Haiti."[18] This threatened Trujillo's regime because of long-standing border disputes between the two nations. If large numbers of Haitian immigrants began to occupy the less densely populated Dominican borderlands, the Haitian government might try to make a case for claiming Dominican land. Additionally, loose borders let contraband pass freely, and without taxes between nations, depriving the Dominican Republic of tariff revenue.

>Furthermore, the Dominican government saw the loose borderlands as a liability in terms of possible formation of revolutionary groups that could flee across the border with ease, while at the same time amassing weapons and followers.

Whoa who invited the DIDF to /trv/

>>1146349
>Berlin
>expensive

>>1141430
I agree also, I've been there on multiple occasions because family and I just never liked it at all. The new museum is pretty cool though.

>>1143960

I would love that. most people I know are late and so I started coming late since I don't like waiting. Having actual both parties being there at the agreed upon time would be awesome.

Budapest. The city itself might have been the most beautiful I've been to, but because the citizens of Budapest are such vermin I'm not in a rush to visit Budapest again

I didn't feel safe because there were drunk shirtless gypsies on the main streets shouting at each other. I had beggars approach me quite often. Native Hungarians are rude and ugly; they wear tacky fashion styles people in the West left behind in the 2000s and have the most disgusting tattoos I've ever seen. No one is nice to you if you can't speak Hungarian

Now, some might say "oh well that's just standard for a European city." Well, I was in Vienna that same summer and even with the fact that Vienna has a lot more immigrants from backwards Muslamic nations, I didn't pick up an ugly feeling from the people who lived there. Everyone could speak English and was happy to speak to you in English. The city made me feel safe enough to walk to my room drunk at 2am, which was not the case in Budapest

>>1144396
>Expecting to see mostly French people in Paris is just as unrealistic as expecting to couch surf in China with Shaolin monks and pandas.
France is truly lost.

Milan.

>Graffiti everywhere,
>smelt like piss,
>Africans trying to scam you everywhere,
>bus station wasn't close to any sort of restaurant or place to get food,
>shitty 3 hour wait for connection,
>disgusting old Italian man grabbed my nipple and suggested we go 'have some fun in the bathroom'

Trieste was amazing tho

>>1149629
Are you a girl?

crewe - very scummy and a lot of Poles (Polish people)

>>1146386
What the fuck?
Theres some rascism in Albuquerque but its majority hispanic/native against white, and even then its not a big deal.
When did you go?

>>1147478
Dominicans are pretty much scum themselves. Hilarious. It's like watching two used up heroin-addict whores with acid attack scars argue over who is uglier. Nigga, you're both trash.

>>1146668
Paris has its issues, but you sound like whiny ass bitch.

They didn't have English menus. Boo fucking hoo. Learn a few words in French for fucks sake. This meme that Frnchies never speak Englsh is old and simply untrue. They don't speak great Englsh for the most part, but I've been to France several times over about a decade and most people under 40 who aren't from provincial villages or antisocial scum can do basic English and are often happy to try. Maybe it helps I also know some French, but I realize a lot of time that people are speaking slow/easy Fremch for me, and language has never been a big problem.

>>1143295
Duisburg, Krefeld, Halle, Berlin, small rundown eaters shitholes, villages in Bavaria 100% filled with totally arrogant cunts. Bielefeld is a kinda boring regional town, at worst. I know all the jokes about it, but the three times I've been there, I always found pleasant if relatively uneventful.

>>1143981
Kinder is mass produced cheap oily shit chocolate, and it's actually Italian. Get the fuck out of here. Only poorfags who feed it to their children buy it.

Without mentioning something too obvious like Baton Rouge, Louisiana or Waco, TX, I would have to say the most disappointed I've ever been in my life was Berlin. It's not even that bad, I just didn't personally vibe with what was going on.

>>1147497
At the end of the day, you're both nights. Stop fighting.

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>>1149726
>>1149765
I know that some dominicans can be such a scum sometimes, but trust me we are far from being on the same level as haitians, at least some of us are pretty alright, can't say the same about haitians the majority of them are subhuman trash that would be better being slaves of a superior group like us than being by themselves, they just should be euthanized/put down for the love of everything that is good.

>>1149700
no

>>1149753
For us, non-US folk, can you please tell us about those 2 cities? Waco is known for the siege situation that happened, but even that I checked out independently and isn't widely publicized or talked about in rest of world.

>>1149624
We colonized Maghreb and West Africa, and the thugs whose parents comes from these countries are still shitholes for the most parts.
What would you do if you were living there, be able to speak a little French and had enough money to move out of there ? Emigrate in France of course, one of the richest country in the world.
The thing is that poor Le Corbusier copycats and urban planners in the 60s constructed isolated suburbs for working-class people/emigrants instead of mixing them with middle-class people downtown. Those buildings became shittier and shittier as time went on.
I could go on and would be more precise if I were a serious sociologist or something, but this problem has affected Paris more than any other city in France (2 millions living intra-muros vs. 12 millions counting the suburbs).
Combine that with the fact that Paris is way more expensive than other cities, and the fact that high criminality there was always a thing since the 19th century, and you get loads of loitering thugs, pickpockets, etc.
Marseille excepted, Lyon and other sizable French cities are quite safer (and way more cheap).

>>1149794
Did you read your anime version of Mein Kampf? You do realize that Haiti is still recovering from an earthquake. Those are happy clean Haitian women there sonny.

Berlin

>commie shithole buildings everywhere
>empty streets (this was shortly after the paris attacks
>all the touristy stuff is in one place
>shit airport

Brussels

fucking hell what a shithole

went with my school in 6th form, had a security guard at our hostel because there was a refugee camp down the road (before the refugee crisis was a big thing) and our coach got broken into overnight haha

absolute dump

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Havana

Historical sites and hotels were nice because they were kept up with but everything else was left to rot

>>1150197
but muh communist utopia

>>1149955
I'll back this up. the hostel I went to had two layers of bullet glass and a two stage door system to keep people out

I spontaneously booked a flight out of the city after 2 days there because it's so fucking awful. there si more arabic signage than french, and graffitti calling for the genocide of whites is scrawled across national monuments

>>1149990
I think you are conflating different groups of blacks. Haitian immigrants don't complain about being oppressed in the USA and are typically very proud and productive

>>1149953
Nvm, didn't realize you were referring to DR and not the USA. Though DRs racial issues does take a lot of gravity from your statement

>>1142880
But Edinburgh is the only city worth seeing in Scotland.

>>1143960
>Making an appointment includes a place and a time
What absolute madness!

>>1149794
>50% lower murder rate
>but they're darker than us so they're shit

>>1149794
My girlfriend was born in the DR and I've been across a lot of both countries. Dominicans can be scum but Haitians are always scum

>>1145693
>>1146395
>>1146671
Why the fuck would you have to care about the population in a certain place? Strangers are just individuals walking in the streets. Just go and look at the buildings, visit stuff. And I'm not talking about locals, those influence your stay, of course. But if you complain about niggas in Paris, immigrants in London or Muslims in Dubai you're just retarded and, yeah, the term "racist" actually does apply to you. You go in a cosmopolitan city and even consider ethnic groups? Wtf dude, you're travelling but you're doing it wrong.

>>1150311
I know some fine Hatians in the USA

>>1150322
If mexico city was 90% white im sure he would be disappointed too. Fuck off to tumblr

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>>1150290
>I have never been in Florida.
And no, the ones you have met are probably the medium class minority that have escaped from the country, not the overwhelming majority of poor as shit haitians that pour into every corner of my country.

>>1150298
>I didn't read the note
Read it you faggot.

>>1150311
Like i said sometime ago, every country has it's scum, but haitians are majority scum the whole of them.

>>1149934
Texan here. It is just kind of boring. There are some cool things there. It's not that bad desu.

It is kind of out in the middle of nowhere, but at least it's close to the texan roadtrip mecca, Czech Stop

>>1149629
>disgusting old Italian man grabbed my nipple and suggested we go 'have some fun in the bathroom'
LOL

>>1141425
New York city...for the first time, I want just back home. Soon as I can, but I must stay here for a week...
Someone help meee

>>1141425
Cairo because of the Egyptians
New Delhi because of the Indians + food poisoning + pollution
Been to plenty of other places that were meh, but those two are fucking shit

>>1141460
All the prairie cities are rough man, it is vastly the native population that make it so. Saskatoon wasn't too bad, lived in the fucking baller east end there for a while now live in south end regina. I don't go out in regina cause all the bars are in sketchy as fuck areas.

Tijuana.

Got all the shittiest parts of a shitty border town. Swarms of beggars, cheesy spring-breakish tourist traps, diseased hookers, crooked pseudo-military cops, filthy pay-to-piss bathrooms, and street vendors as far as the eye can see, all of them selling the same novelty knickknacks.

It's like an impoverished Vegas.

Buffalo. Just a shithole. Like everyone had moved out except restaurant owners. Kinda felt bad for them

>>1141621
Fuck you, militar y check points are normal and boring as hell in Mexico and I am mexican

>>1143960
I am Mexican and I like to be precise and follow a schedule. Fuck off tour intolerance

>>1143960
Yup! Got a German aunt-by-marriage, and this is completely accurate. My American grandmother stopped by her house unannounced once, because she was in the area and wanted to say hi to her grandkids. German aunt turned her away at the door. No lie. Caused a family drama shitstorm.

Hilarious in retrospect...

>>1150778
Unexpected visita are rude

>>1143960
Maybe you should not be late then, you cunt.

>>1150547
you fucker, now I want kolaches.

>>1146349
What?

I moved to Berlin because i was broke and rent was so cheap..

People are really friendly there.

There's heaps to do if you have friends and know how to have fun. I partied for like a year straight.

>>1149990
Check out how many doctors,inventors,writers there are of African decent. While you're at it,hustle your ass to the nearest African History museum that's in most cities especially the Schomburg in Harlem. Started by a black Puerto Rican.

>>1146349

>le libshit groupthink meme city

every time

>>1150818
IKR I'm surprised by the amount of ppl not liking berlin. Its one of my favorite place

>>1145176
>>>tumblr
Please kys

>>1145198
No doubt caused by Muslims. Shame they have to be in Europe

>>1150293
this, Glasgow is poor and ugly

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Paris.

I was expecting a city brimming with traditional French culture. I got somalians and other muslims lining the streets. Seriously some of the side alleyways made me feel like I was back in Morocco, it was sad.

>>1141437
Read the OP again dipshit.

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>>1152387

>>1147488
damn she's hot

I'm glad I live in New York and see so many hot Dominican chicks

>>1150665
lol what's wrong with it?

Are you a shut in neckbeard?

>>1143390
>wherever blacks go,Africa follows right after them
what a shocker

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So many dreams being shattered in this thread, I love it.

>>1141437
>the population of Paris exists to satisfy some basement dewellers idealized expectation of "muh classy France"
No,they exist to parasite and pollute the city.
They've succeeded in ruining our tourism,deteriorated our economy,
police and administration can't handle the mass of crime and organized crime.
We have every ethnic mafia here.

And I wouldn't classify maghrebs,negroes and gypsies as "population" ,rather toxic fauna.
>>1143390
>>there are black people in the capital of a country that used to own half of Africa
We regret bringing civizalization and protecting you from the genocidal brits.
But that doesn't entitle negroes to my country.

>>1152808
>being this edgy

>>1152814
>>being this edgy
t. Mehmet

>>1142773
I lived there for a couple of years, and I agree. At least if you're there as a standard tourist. It takes some time to find the nice and cool places, and a tourist will mainly just sick to the boring downtown. Not a very good tourist city at all, though I enjoyed it immensely when i got to know it. The best of Norway is in the countryside really.

>>1145295
Agree! It's quite lovely.

>>1150351
dominican here.

those dominicans in your pic aren't even good looking dominicans.

the best looking dominican girls are the dark skin ones

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>>1152877
Hahaha no, there are some really good looking morenas, but blanquitas are on average best looking, this is from a brown mulatto.

amsterdam. literally DUDE WEED LMAO, tranny hookers, and sex shops. absolutely nothing else

>>1150298
>Trusting Haitian government to enforce laws and track statistics
ha

>>1152387
>Paris
>Something about Muslims
Every time. Also, expecting traditional French culture in the most cosmopolitan city on Earth is ridiculous.

>>1152387
Why posting that dominican?

>>1141425
Tijuana was probably the worst

I also can't remember what city it was but when I was on a Mexican cruise I woke up one morning in a new port town

When I looked out from the balcony, the water below was an off putting green, it almost looked like we docked in a swamp and off in the distance I could see a Walmart, I opened the balcony door and was hit with a hot, horrible smelling air, I don't think I got off the ship in that port

Mexico is a pile of dung and I will never return

>>1145539
>historical significance

Top kek

I may be doing interrail and the first section of the journey is Paris-Amsterdam-Berlin

but apparently these are really shit according to this thread, what should I replace them with?

New York is the biggest shithole I've ever seen. You couldn't pay me enough to live there. When I hear people (who have never been there) talking about living in NY because they saw it in the movies and they think it would be like some romantic comedy a la Sex and the City, I can't help but laugh.


>>1141434
> The amount of immigrants in the city was staggering
t.stormfront shill taking his trash to trv. there are many negroes and arapes in paris, but it isn't nearly as bad as m

>>1153486
as bad as what?

>>1143960
this bullshit american stereotype about germans=robots has to die. it was born in wwii as propaganda, but americans love to hold tight to decades-old artificial stereotypes.

germans are gross, loud and emotional. i live with them.

>>1152951
Yeah if you don't leave the red light district, tard

>>1153487
as bad as what i read on 4chan. but i mostly stayed in the very center, so my view is probably skewed

>>1153486

>t.stormfront shill taking his trash to trv. there are many negroes and arapes in paris, but it isn't nearly as bad as m


Why does anyone displeased with a country's city being filled to the brim with people not of that country have to be from stormfront or /pol/? If I go to a European city I want to see Europeans living there, not Arabs or Africans

>>1153488
>Born in WWII from Americans
Literally not true, but okay Mr.JuniorHistorian
Also, good job falling for one of /trv/'s few copypastas.

>>1143981

fuk outra here clueless worthless euronagger. america has better local candy makers in every city small and large than your mass produced eurocrap. stop believing memes and pimping corporate crap and grow some taste buds.

>>1147488

i was like 321 until the gentrifying mideestern hipster kid whose parents are paying his rent in wash hts jumps in all like he knows something about dr and haiti because hes lived in nyc for 15min. and here you are. kek.

Paris.

Went in with low expectations, but honestly outside of the gallery's and museums (and maybe a few tourist traps like the Eiffel tower) it's complete garbage. Overpriced, hustlers everywhere, political situation in France right now means that more often then now there's garbage everywhere, did I mention overpriced because Jesus christ, and I hate to sound /pol/ but the number of sleeping rough refugees within sight of my hotel was considerable.

All in all, pretty bad. Not reflective of France, but really negative experience.

>>1153443
thats probably Mazatlan

>>1153466
Depends on where the rest of your trip takes you. Personally, I think its pretty easy to avoid to ignore the people trying to scam you. Just don't acknowledge their existence and keep your valuables in your front pockets.

Paris - there will be loads of brown people trying to sell you trinkets and wine near the Eiffel Tower, Sacre Coeur, and the Lock Bridge. (Do not under any circumstance by the wine/beer from them. Ive seen them fill up some bottles from the sewer.)

You could spend a couple days in Paris to say you've seen the major attractions and then head to Bruges in Belgium. Its a fantastic city.

I dont know what all the hate is about Amsterdam, I personally love the city. Just walking around the canals and looking at the boats and buildings is amazing. Don't pass up the flower market.

Berlin is another city I don't understand all the hate for. It is most certainly more modern than the most of other European cities because it was all almost destroyed. But between the East Berlin Wall Gallery, Checkpoint Charlie museum, Museum Island, Berlin Cathedral, Berlin Zoo, Potsdam its worth it. It also has a good night club scene from what I experienced.

I think its all about being able to mentally just avoid the beggars and scam artists.

>>1153506
I'm a bit of a euroboo but I think this bears repeating

here in america any decent cook or confectionary dude can basically start his own business. almost every city has a few really good places you can go and get anything you want amde by hand.

hell, they even have these places in 3rd tier asian cities now.

of course, europeans don't have the right to start a business, kek. their brands have prestige and history, and many people mistake that for quality.

I agree with Singapore. Expensive beer and no fucking character. Most people I met there seemed stuck up. And also the Indian slave thing. That said, its safe clean and the metro is nice.

I actually liked Manila a little bit, but I was expecting it to be super shitty. So I had a positive surprise whereas Singapore surprised me in a negative way.

Hong Kong is a bit like Singapore but dirtier and bunch of rude Chinese but at least it got character.

>>1153743
you LIKED manila?

what the fuck?

>>1153756

Well it was better than I expected. Spent most time in Makati.

>>1153488
Dr. Seuss a second generation German-American put out a WW2 cartoon called: "Your Job In Germany". We just got finished with this war so we gotta watch these people so they won't start another one.

Singapore, hands down.

A tacky version of a large U.S City.
Curfew fee on public transportation after a certain hour at night.
Citizens were like drones.
Nothing overly interesting to see or do.

Like being an Adult and moving back home with your parents.

>>1150322
Because when you go to paris you probably want to interact with french people, not north africans, otherwise you would go to north africa.

with that being said I didn't think it was that bad when I was there.

Brussels on the other hand...

>>1150322
nobody's complaining about muslims in Dubai, anon...

Just left Bangkok and Siem Reap.

Vesides Angkor Wat, both of them. Not that i'm surprised developing countries are poor and what not, but they are just genuinely shit places with nothing to do beyond the main sites.

I really dont gey why people love bangkok so much. It fucking sucks

>>1155291
>I really dont gey why people love bangkok so much.

Cheap Bars and good cheap food everywhere (street and more stylish restaurants. Lots of little hipster art shops, cafe's etc. Also quite a lot of good clubs and cocktail bars. The nightlife extends far beyond sukhumvit hooker bars and "Irish pubs".

>>1155291
YOU ARE GOD DAMN RIGHT. IM IN BANGKOK RIGHT NOW. SMEELS LIKE SHIT. EVERYWHERE SMELLS LIKE SHIT. GIRLS ARE UGLY AF.

IT'S TOO HOT YOU CANT EVEN WALK DURING THE DAY. STREETS FOODS ARE JOKE. EAT IF YOU WANT TO GET DIARRHEA AND CLEAN FOOD IS NOT CHEAP.

WHY THE FUCK I CAME HERE. NEXT CITY IS PATTAYA. I HOPE IT'S DIFFERENT.

>>1155291
I know people that love Thailand, but not Bangkok so much. Even Thais, the only ones I know that like Bangkok are from Bangkok, and as far as tourists, they usually like if they have been to Bangkok once and that is the only place they've been in Thailand

>>1155307
>NEXT CITY IS PATTAYA

BEST CITY ON EARTH HANDS DOWN! YOURE IN FOR A WILD RIDE WITHOUT BRAKES!

>>1155307
You do know it's low and rainy season right? The time to travel to Bangkok, and Thailand in general, is November through March/April. Which is called the high season for a reason.

>>1155311
HIGH SEASON=MORE EXPENSIVE, MORE PEOPLE, MORE HOT, MORE SHIT.

>>1155316
It's less hot, actually

>>1145205
Amsterdam city centre does not equal Amsterdam, the city. The city centre is, in its entirety, a tourist trap. Most Amsterdammers avoid it like the plague.

>>1155307
>being a cumskin with a weak constitution
must suck only being able to eat pretty food

Copenhagen. It gets so much hype but then

>dirty as fuck
>piss poor metro system
>expensive food that isnt worth the price
>nothing to do during the day, one of the biggest attractions is a small fucking mermaid statue
>people chainsmoking so much it makes Parisians look healthy

All the more shit after visiting Stockholm which is

>clean as fuck for a big city
>one of the nicest metros Ive seen
>tons of shit to do between museums and historical sites within the city
>the whole city's architecture is gorgeous as opposed to just one street
>expensive food but very worth it; fresh cinnamon buns everywhere instead of stale danishes

I guess Copenhagen is nice for babys first Scandinavian trip but god I wouldnt go back when Stockholm exists

>there are people on this board right now who don't like Berlin

I can't fathom this. Fun as fuck

Amsterdam
Everything I hate about Europe supercondensed

Alternatively, any of the newer cities in Turkey, because they're just endless prefab concrete apartment buildings

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>>1155408
Which is?

But let me guess, you haven't left the Red Light District and think Amsterdam is only about drugs and hookers. Totally oblivious to the fact you're walking in the one of the best preserved historic city centers in (Western) Europe with a unique history that can be seen, touched, found and experienced on almost every corner.

In the western world it's Milan. I've lived here for two years and can't get over how soul-sucking this place makes you feel. Haven't been to Brussels though which I've heard can be worse.

Asia: Patna. Not that any tourist would ever go there except to go to Bodh Gaya. The amount of extreme overcrowding and poverty is frightening to people raised first or even second-world.

>>1155307
top kek; enjoy Pattaya, you man of no taste.

>>1141504
SF sucks ass. Nothing but bums, hippies, fags, hipsters, and code monkeys.

The place is lackluster at best.

>>1152387

Multiculturalism is destroying tourism.

Belgrade. Absolute shithouse. I enjoyed Zemun and Ada but Belgrade proper is a disappointment.

>>1155414
Because every time I was there everyone came across obnoxious and constantly trying to flaunt and flex, be they other shithead American tourists, oil princes, backpackers, or the breed of distilled and refined turboeurofag. I actually never went to the Red Light District. In fact, I was underage and with my family every time I visited, but the drugs and hookers are in your face all of the time, because nobody every shuts the fuck up about them. I admit I am biased, because these family summer day trips up from the suburbs of The Hague were almost always a stressful, expensive nightmare. Compared to the much more relaxed and "authentic" experiences I got in places like The Hague, Leiden, Utrecht, Haarlem, Enkhuizen, Delft, really everywhere else I went in the Netherlands Amsterdam fucking sucked

>>1152998
Yeah, pretty ridiculous to expect French culture in France

>>1153466
Amsterdam and Berlin are good if you're interrailing with friends

>>1155528
Might as well expect American culture in New York.

>>1155627
New York pretty much is the symbol of American culture.

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>>1141425
I went to China once and went to Langfang. It was dense, no one spoke English or Dutch, and the pollution literally made my phlegm black. Fuck Langfang and fuck China. Vietnam and Japan are the only two worthwhile Asian countries I'

>>1155689
Vietnam and Japan are the only two worthwhile Asian countries I ever went to.

nyc
i live there

>>1155719
>1155719
/trv/ rule one

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>>1155291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgc_LRjlbTU

>>1155692
Vietnam sucks

>>1153678
Can't see a walmart from the embarcadero in Mazatlan. I'm thinking Ensenada with the shit smell.

>>1145198
>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37211788

top kek

Tallinn, Estonia

Because I have to choose between Berlin and Tallinn only

>>1150763
Cuban here

No they are not, they weren't for me and you know perfectly why

Travelling through mexico as a Cuban is a fucking nightmare

>>1143873
You should have posted it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrD-OYuEkyY

>>1145678
merhaba my turk friend,yallah yallah shukran

Liege/Luik in Belgium was pretty grim imo. Very little of interest other than the markets.

athens, it was around 15 years ago.
tons of homeless children, half of the buildings were in renovation with no worker in sight, the other half were delapitated

>>1150763
Yeah but as an American driving through it was a huge shock. We do not have that sort of thing here that I have seen

>>1155954
talin is fucking beautiful what are you on about

>>1156701
I've never been outside of my grandma's basement the post.

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> No mention of any Grorious Japanese city

As expected. Sasuga Japan.

>>1157316
japan is so safe they have vending machines outside on the streets, let that sync in for a second

>>1141504

what part of SF do you live in?

Marin? Tiburon? Santa Rosa? Sacramento?

>>1141635
Hated Vienna for the same reason. Cold unfriendly people.

>>1141425

The town of Hilo, HI didn't impress me. Kona was nice, but overall I didn't like the big island as much as the other islands. The non-town parts of the Hilo region were nice, I'm talking just about the town.

Basically like any city's downtown area except hotter. The beaches aren't very swimmable on that side. Also we saw some homeless lady's dog die, and my dog of the same breed had died recently, so that bummed me out.

>>1157316
If you want to go there okayama sucked and hiroshima was pretty fucking boring.

The bomb stuff is 100x better in nagasaki which is also way more interesting city.

Kobe kind of boring and a letdown compared to nearby osaka, kyoto and nara


Fukuoka, Nagoya, Sapporo, Kagoshima, Sendai are decent enough cities to live in but nothing of particular note on interest in any of them except maybe the annual snow festival in sapporo

>>1155362
Swedes and Norwegians love going here, solely because the alcohol is comparatively cheap the fact that they get to buy whatever they want 24/7 and can drink it absolutely anywhere blows their mind.

>>1156414
Not for Memin Pinguin.

Brussels is extremely dirty, smells of piss, has shit public transport, Arabs trying to sell you drugs then when you refuse asking you to pay for their breakfast, literally nothing in the way of nightlife, no attractions beyond one square.

Seriously, I thought I'd accidentally booked a hostel in the ghetto then after walking up the road for a minute I was where they had all the tributes to the attacks and round the corner was the cathedral. Every shop sign was in Arabic and gangs of about 50 were all congregated around the table tennis tables

Corte Madera, a little town near SF California. Pretty little shithole infested with new rich and their horrible children. Had a Starbucks clerk audibly sneer at me and my wife for wearing t-shirts and jeans. I think the most telling part was the way the service industry people reacted to us, giving them standard human dignity always resulted in big surprised smiles.

The whole Silicon valley is littered with new rich trash, but that place it was literally everybody except the janitors.

>>1144003
>Every city has its slums
You've never been to Melbourne m8.

>>1145165
Just about all the complaints in this thread is because niggers and migrants.

Wherever Niggers go, Africa comes with them.

>>1145176
Fuck off

>>1149936
You are from Paris? whats up with the racial tension?

>>1145176
>le racism is bad meme