Is Denver becoming one of the world's great cities?

>becoming

>>1112995
Only among stoners.

If it develops a global advantage in something important, sure. Even the ganja is not often produced locally, it's just imported from California or British Columbia.

But it has the advantages of a beautiful setting, outdoorsy stuff, and strong second-tier food and booze options. Many people like that more than the stuff you can find in real great global cities.

Denver is definitely relevant on a national level. Not sure about international level, though. Most globally-relevant cities that are not capital cities are typically not far from the ocean.

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>>1112996
>godsize

It's becoming a San Francisco. Take that as you will.

>>1112995
Is it considered the gateway to the west? I consider it the gateway to the west

>Colorado
>city

Denver is not even in the top 5 city in USA

Why did you post a picture of salt lake? Stupid boy.

>>1112995
This is a photo of Salt Lake City

>>1112995
Denver is so irrelevant that this is a picture of Salt Lake City and nobody noticed

becoming far too liberal

>>1113094
St.louis is the gateway to the west, that what the gateway arch represents since it was included with the Louisiana purchase. That's historically speaking and stl will alway have that history/nickname. But into days standards its not even close to what we describe as the west

Denver's pretty alright but it's still in flyover country.

>>1113133
>>1113142
>>1113144
Its obviously denver. Salt lake city is in the fucking desert

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>>1113237

I go to Denver multiple times a year and it is boring as shit unless you're super into outdoor activities in the mountains. There's not much in terms of night life or anything to really do or experience outside of eating and drinking. Real estate prices are also pretty fucked too due to the large population growth. It's like paying Cali prices to live in a place not nearly as fun or relevant.

>>1112995
I think you mean overpriced.

>>1113145
Yeah and I'm sure conservacuck wastelands are just magnificent places to live, right?

>>1113244
Eating and drinking is awesome. So are mountains. What the fuck do you expect from life?

>>1113506

Don't get butthurt he gave an honest assessment. I went to college and worked in Denver and it is boring if you don't like outdoor activities. I live on the east coast and there is much more to do and you can drive 30 minutes and be in another big city. He's also right about real estate prices going full retard. Denver is definitely not even close to being a worlds greatest city and most people (besides the huge and fast growing foreign population) don't move there for the city it's for the outdoor activities like skiing, hiking, fishing, plus high altitude so there are very few annoying bugs to bite you while you enjoy nature. I think the fad of moving to Colorado will die out soon due to a combination of low wage jobs and ridiculous prices.

>>1113012
>Even the ganja is not often produced locally, it's just imported from California or British Columbia.


Why did you make that up?
Its not even legal to transport across state lines much less international ones.
I america, all the legal pot comes from the state it was produced in.
There is no interstate THC commerce.

>>1113513
weed and the rocky mountains sounds good to me bruh

>>1113506
>What the fuck do you expect from life

How about good options for food later than 9pm?
How about some sort of social scene that isn't just a bunch of bearded flannels and REI lifers?
How about some relevant museums and art galleries?
How about a selling aspect other than DUDE WEED LMAO?

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the place. It's just not nearly as awesome as the locals claim it is.

>>1113043
In terms of technology and innovation, no way. San Francisco at this point is going to be ground zero for innovation for all of our life times. In terms of quasi-spiritualism and pseudo-religion, sure.

>>1113145
>implying more liberty is a bad thing in a country founded on classical liberalism
>using political buzzwords without fully understanding their meaning
ishygddt

>>1113844
The city is pretty much nothing but working poor and a few skilled workers. There are no worthwhile jobs unless you're highly educated. Never seen anything like it. Most major cities have the homeless hitting you up for money, but I didn't really see any of them. Just shit tons of visibly poor people. Seemed pretty shit to me

>>1112995
> Go to Denver
> Smoke Weed
> Go Home
I like the city because there's a lot to see and do.

>>1113836
Get a load of this guy

>>1112995
Considering I'm a IT security major the city is pretty GOAT for me.

>>1114017
Silicon Valley is definitely in the lead. A distant second is Seattle. Then there is another gap, with cities like LA, Portland, Salt Lake City, and Denver vying for a place on the list. Being a quick flight from SFO does help, since that is were all the major venture capital firms are headquartered. These are just the cities in the Western half of the US, I don't know much about the east. I hear NYC pays well in tech fields.

>>1113513

>moving to denver
>tfw everyone thinks I'm a weed tourist
>I don't even like weed

I really hate this shit. I kind of wish they hadn't legalized it because all the potheads are going there... I'm going for the weather and hiking. Why do potheads have to be so obnoxious about it?

>>1114144

NYC pays a bit better, but the rent is double anywhere else so even white collar professionals can be poor there.

East coast is boring and humid. Just night life and immigrants.

denver's nice to visit, just spent a week there, but it's far from being one of the "world's great cities". it's just too limited. it's kinda like inland portland, imo. though it was awesome with a 16 month old-natural history museum, aquarium, zoo, mellow but amazing food options, and we didn't care about staying out later than 8.

>>1112995
How can i smoke weed in denver when im only 20?

>>1114159
Just be yourself

>>1112995
It's becoming a shithole full of spics. Literally half white now.

Used to be way better

>>1114200
So not as nice ifor you are racist.
Good to know.

Fuuuck NO.

Literally everyone is high

how can i buy weed in CO? im 20 and the legal age is 21 there

>>1114701
The same way you buy it everywhere else in the country. They're super strict, only a certain number of people allowed inside a locked room at a time. They scan your IDs and only accept passports and drivers licenses.

Colorado Springs >> Denver

>>1114778
Christian conservative detected

>>1114704
Also do not go in one if you have a CDL

>>1114898
>Christian
No
>conservative
Yes
I mostly like that its a decently sized city while not being huge and crowded as fuck like Denver, and there's nature and nice outdoorsy things all around. Also the ski resorts aren't too far

It had the potential but Californians and other idiots decided to flock to the state and ruin it just like their home.
>Move to great state (California)
>decide to implement liberal ideology and laws
>state turns to shit
>not livable anymore
>decide to gtfo
>move to another great state (Colorado)
>decide to implement liberal ideology and laws
>repeat

>>1115096

>tfw "native" denverites think everyone who moves there is from commiefornia or jew york shitty
>get bad rep and "we're full, fuck off" for people moving there due to this association

About to start every line with, "I'm voting Trump."

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>>1115081
Jesus , has springs became hip now to?

>>1115375
was there 2 weeks ago. and to answer your question...sort of? the problem was they know they're denver's little brother, so they're trying extra hard to be cooler-than-you-but-don't-care and they ended up being just really loud and obnoxious and pathetic. which is too bad because the place has the potential to be bend to denver's portland.

fwiw i did have the best fucking cuban i've ever eaten there.

>>1112995
>implying denver is better than grand junction
denver's not even in the rockies. It's merely next to it. get annexed by kansas, fuckers.

>>1115402
>Sending us enough liberals to remove Brownback
He and the legislature are idiots. We can't fund our goddamn schools cause those assholes want to cut taxes

>>1115405
Send your kids to private schools and quit sucking at the teat

>>1114010
This

Denver is fine but it's not even a top 5 us city and it has zero international relevance.

>>1113012
you sir are retarded.
>. Even the ganja is not often produced locally, it's just imported from California or British Columbia.

>>1114778

homeless < airmen

either way your surrounding yourself with people that need a handout

>>1115481
we do because public schools cost as well... now gtfo and help solve a problem and stop spinning the wheels. KS grower and proud... fuck that 7 hr drive for weed and fuck big MJ.

>>1115569
I do not understand your post

>>1113039
sounds about right.

>>1115387
CSprings is better in other ways (being outdoorsy and not crowded as fuck)

>>1115496
Does has one of the best international airports in the world

Denver is only relevant right now because the Broncos won the Super Bowl

>>1115987
>Does has one of the best international airports in the world
Only because it's a transfer point. Fly in and immediately fly out.

Chilling at the DIA right now waiting for my flight to Japan

>>1115987

Hub for the worst US legacy airline tho

>>1115987
An airport doesnt mean your city has relevance. Denver is right in the middle of the country so it's a good place to stop.

People dont talk about New York's fucking airport you desperate twat.

>>1116312
Plus the airport is 40 minutes outside the city with no public transportation connected to it besides a fucking bus

>>1116312
JFK and Laguadia ?
they sure as shit do talk about them.

>>1116312

You seem to be rather poorly educated.

DIA was intended to be a growth pole for the region. However, there were infrastructural problems when they first opened the airport, which certainly reduced its potential ( Continental Airlines said, fuck this, we won't have a hub here).

The Dallas/Fort Worth Airport brags, "Remaining the single most important economic asset in the North Texas region, DFW Airport has been a significant factor in the relocation and expansion of more than 400 businesses to Dallas/Fort Worth"

4chan is often just as bad as reddit. No one on either site seems to have any idea what they are talking about, but they sure as shit want to say it loudly. Seriously, go to Google Scholar, type in "Airport" and then come back with something interesting to say.

I saw a pretty girl at the Denver airport once

>>1116588
They dont list them as a reason for the city's relevance

>>1116593
None of what you said is a refutation of my post in any way. What the fuck are you even on about?

>>1116805

>airport doesn't relate to relevance
>having an important port in a city doesn't relate to relevance
airports used as growth poles
airports contribute to business community

>people don't talk about airports
except city planners
except those who study urban environments
except the business community

>>1116832
What i meant was,

OP asked if Denver was becoming one of the "world's great cities."

I responded that Denver is not even a top 5 US city, much less one of the best in the world.

The only refutation offered to my post was that Denver "has an international airport."

Excuse me for not being convinced that this makes a city one of the world's best.

>>1113244
>Not seeing shows at Beta.
>Not drinking 40 oz. of malt liquor at the 1 UP arcade.
>Not drinking Pliny the Elder at Falling Rock taphouse.

No, but Minneapolis is.

But stay away from it.

>>1116832
DIA is out of the way and in the absolute ass end of nowhere

>on shuttle
>see "WELCOME TO DIA" sign
>sweet. got here early
>25 mins later
>still driving

Fucking shithole.

>>1116849

Here's an idea, why don't you and OP create a list of characteristics that make a city important and then see how Denver compares to other cities? Then think if Denver is improving in any of these categories and think how likely it is for the city to reach the top.

Look here is one index that looks at Global Destination Cities. The only city in North America to make the top ten is NYC. And for North America Denver doesn't make the top 10 (Toronto, Montreal, Houston, Miami, NYC, LA, SF, etc.).
https://newsroom.mastercard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Mastercard_GDCI_2014_Letter_Final_70814.pdf

BUT according to Forbes, (for the US) Denver is the number one city in America for business and career. So, maybe Denver has a chance at moving up the ranks?
http://www.forbes.com/places/co/denver/

I'm not sure and I don't really care. My only concern for this thread was that the notion that airports weren't important was tossed out. Airports like all other ports certainly matter.

>>1116884

Agreed.

What's your point?

Both of the major airports in Moscow are in the middle of no where. So is the airport in Barcelona.Baku's airport is in the middle of no where. Iceland's airport is terribly far from anything. Paris's airport is also in the middle of no where. The list goes on.

Why does it seem fairly common that major airports are fairly far from the cities that they serve? Why would city planners want the airports in these locations?

>>1115096

Every single mayor since 1963 has been a Democrat. If we could only turn the clock back 53 years before all those people from California came with their liberal ideology.

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>>1117000
look at ohare. they changed the direction planes approach from, adding runways on land they already had, and the million fuckwits who bought a house by the largest airport around flip a shit and are still going to told to fuck off by rahm the rekr. meanwhile those suburban nambys fill their attics with concrete.

u dont see anyone around midway complaining. o yea its in the city and theyre all poor af

It's one of the fastest growing cities in the US.

>>1117051
>>1117051
I think it is THE fastest growing right now.
And the tourism has grown exponentially. Downtown has an area with hostels and cheap pizza that feels a lot like amsterdam

My penis is the fastest growing member in my pants.

>>1116899
I think shit hole isa bit strong.
I have always found it to be ano easy in and out.

>>1112995
Moved to Denver from Dallas.
Denver sucks. Too many degenerates here. No one has their shit together.

>>1117971
What sort of crowd are you spending time with?

>>1117971
Yeah even the world class surgeons are high all the time.

>>1112995
It's really a shame, Denver was a great city but Colorado's lax drug laws have attracted a lot of losers.

>>1117971

The problem is that a lot of people are moving there and not as many jobs are being created. And the jobs that are being moved to Denver are typically call center jobs. I remember in college a couple years ago the staff being really excited about the thousands of call center jobs opening up which they expect the students will want. My question for them is why the fuck would I get a degree to work at a shitty call center? It's hard to get a well paying job in Denver.

My friend that still lives there recently told me that quite a few cities have tried to revitalize themselves the same way Denver did to attract more people (st Louis, wyoming, ect) but are unsuccessful. It's actually kind of crazy that a city that was basically considered to be on the middle of nowhere has grown so much.

>>1112995
That landscape definitly looks beatiful. Is there much skiing in winter?

>>1112995
I like Denver but the winter will kill me. I'm not outdoorsy when it comes to snow and I can't stand snow. Also I need the ocean.

Washington and Oregon is comfy for me even though it is overcast and rains 360 days out of the year, but it's at least a mild 50-60 degrees with an ocean and mountainous range.

>>1113237

You're retarded

>>1114144

>Portland
>Seattle

Why would you recommend him to the land of socialist America?? Why??

>>1118634
The Seattle metro has the GDP of Thailand and is growing. Please keep telling me about my city and region

>>1118634
Portland and Seattle are beautiful, have a lot of unique personality, doing well financially and are safer than the average US city. What superficial person refuses to go somewhere because of the Democratic Party

>>1115387
bend seems like a dope ass place. It would be cool if c springs got a cool artist thing going.
But that is what Manitou Springs is for (along with shitty tourist stuff)

>>1118589
accurately, how many sunny days does washington (especially more inland mountains and Belingham area) get?

>>1118827
I don't know the exact number of sunny days but I know the lack of sun really bothers some people. I grew up in Bellingham so I'm very used to it, it just feels like home. Another thing to keep in mind is we're very far north. There are several months during winter where I would go to school in the dark and leave school in the dark.

Summer in the northwest however is the most magical place on earth.

>>1118634
socialism is alright if you have a homogeneous population

>>1118827
live in spokane then

the winters are cold and sunny, the summers are hot and sunny

>>1117001
There's a difference between a Democrat and a Liberal-Marxist-SJW-Cuck. Well, there was at least before 2016. Now they're basically the same. The ones who are leaving NYC and California today are the SJW tier liberals who want to infect the rest of the country with their disease.

>>1116899
I agree. Worst part about Denver by far is the distance the airport is from downtown.

>>1119460
It's a 20 min drive from downtown

>>1114018
>mainstream liberalism
>liberty/classical liberalism

Pick one you special snowflake

>>1118589

I'll take snow over rain any day. Rain ruins your day, snow makes it.

>>1118634

They're young, growing cities with bright economies and good city planning. Northwest frontier also has nice hiking inland, real pretty forests and mountains. Just the fucking rain.

>>1119460

They just opened a comfy rail. What's nicer than sitting in a train watching scenery go by? Do you even /n/? Anyway, not like you go to the airport more than 6 times a year.