Drawing Improvement/Progress Thread Previous edition: desua

First for bump

Second for bump

Dude give these type of threads some time. Most drawfags are still drawing or studying to improve their mistake.

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Am I ready to enter the loli-furry DA scene?

Any drawfags got comparison pictures of their old stuff and their new stuff? I want to feel inspired.

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>>11478368
:)

>>11478431
>6 years
>only accomplishment during that time was getting worse at drawing an umbrella

>>11477840
Why do people want to get into loli-furry scene or whatever it is?

>>11478368
How many years do you need?
I can do a roughly one year in, but I'm incredibly lazy, so it won't be very good

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>>11478431
This physically hurts.

>>11480387
However long you think is worth showing, I just like seeing improvement.

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>>11482217
I'm not too proud of it since I've definitely seen people progressing much faster
But I can't really complain either since I'm not putting enough effort in it

>>11482313
Progressing much faster? You went from static standing poses to dynamic poses over the course of a couple seasons! I'm sincerely fucking impressed, I'd be thrilled if I could progress at the rate you have.

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Colored version of the previous one

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I don't have much. Drew that bat girl last thread and it still isn't done.
Anyone got some resources on cartooning/cartoon-style drawing? I'm trying to do something more like that for little doodles. Pic related, I guess. It's about the best I can do right now.

>>11482313
If it is any consolation, to someone like me it seems like a huge improvement in a very small amount of time. I'm literally stick figure tier at the moment and that seems like really rapid progress to me.
I fear >>11478431 happening so much that I tend to fear picking up a pencil.

>>11486164
If you don't draw, you'll stay where you're at forever. The reason that person never improved is because they didn't study and probably also didn't draw regularly.

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>>11486210
Sorry for the ultra, ultra shitty pics. Not sure they are clear enough to be useful for anything. Shit phone and I don't draw on the computer yet.
For reference I started drawing around July and these are just exercises from the Bert Dodson beginner's book. Just copying these examples out of the book felt almost hopeless so the idea of drawing from my mind just seems like voodoo.
Admittedly I'm not done with the book yet so going at a slow pace.

>>11486694
It's going to feel that way when you first start out with anything. When you're first learning to cook, you shouldn't expect to make a 5-star meal. Keep reading and doing exercises, draw every day for at least a few hours, and don't beat yourself up over the art not being great right off the bat.
I can tell you're at least trying and willing to learn. Have you looked through any other books? Maybe try to study the work of artists you like, see what their process is. Some do tutorials, videos, or livestreams. Even if you can't draw at their level yet, it'll give you more insight.

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>>11478431
no way. no way this is real.

>>11482313
holy shit thats some speedy improvement if i say so myself

>>11486164
I think something like >>11478431 happens only when people either have exceptionally poor sense of aesthetics (sounds pretentious, but what I mean is, to most people it looks neither like a skilled drawing nor like major improvement) or they just don't want to improve

Honestly, if you don't like how it looks and don't want to get stuck like that, you've already avoided that particular pitfall

Only thing you probably need to get over, is
>I tend to fear picking up a pencil

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>>11478368
Here's a tiny amount from me.
Just about thee months of time passed.

>>11482313
Pretty much fall on the same reasoning. Still am pretty new as an artist and still experimenting.

>>11478431
This is an artist's worst nightmare.

>>11489871
Thats pretty good for just 3 months

1 (one) free bump

Progress meme too big to post
https://anonimage.net/view/xLHbF38xdO
Over the past 3 months it feels like ive progressed a ton, and can produce much better work. But it seems like really little things rather than big changes.
I need to go on the critique board and download anatomy stuff still as well.

Drump

>>11478431
The charts where there's literally no improvement or they somehow get worse have to be people with some form of visual agnosia (or maybe even autism). They've obviously convinced that there's no problem and even think they got better.

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This whole drawing thing for me has been interesting in the last 4 months I've been doing it. I've never had a real interest in any of this until I started talking to a deal of artists in a couple of Discord servers.

It's been difficult, that I can honestly say. Hands and feet are my biggest issue right now, and although I know I shouldn't let it get to me, after seeing all of these other artists' works it unfortunately happens from time to time.

I just feel it's still too soon to see if I wanna get more serious about all of this or just go into it as a hobby

>>11477840
Yep. Have fun in your personal hell; see you when you get out.

>>11494727
You got gud in three months? Damn dude, I'm still on boxes and I haven't even drawn a full person yet

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Howv do I motivate myself to get gud when my main reason for improving my art is because my specific fetish doesn't get enough art? All I find myself drawing is lewd, and I can't exactly practice that in the open.

>>11498313
Draw regular pics when you're in the open, and turn those pics into lewds when you're alone? I don't know, that's a tough one.

>>11498313
i'm autistic about people watching me draw -anything- and its hindered my improvement. dont get me wrong, ive definitely gotten better, just slower than most folks imo.
If you can, try and do benign practices while people are around, even if its not full pics. Its good to keep that muscle memory learning. It'll help your future lewds.

Blump

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Hi guys, I'm the anon from the other day about the one curious with my hand confidence and stiffness, I wanted to check up with you guys to see if what I'm doing is along the lines, I've tested around with anatomy but I'm still confused on the whole gesture, am I drawing too much into contour?

>>11502945
I can't really see the pic it's too dark.

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>>11503714

Bomp

>>11502945
>>11503741
That's an improvement over stick figures, though I don't know about "too much" contour, there's no specific way to do gesture.

Lives still look scratchy though. Do you chicken scratch or it's just the pen?

>>11478431
This is literally impossible if you
>get critiques from people who are actually GUD and not random ass-kissers from DA
>Draw literally every day and make thousands of shit drawings
>learn construction and how not to symbol draw

>>11504823
I still do the chicken scratching as a habitual thing, I usually try to challenge myself to go for not trying to do it, but that's more a double edged sword by that point.

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I just finished this two nights ago, first time using soft shading instead of cell shading.

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>>11502945
>>11503741
this is a huge improvement from the stick figures anon.
i dont really do gesture drawings as a practice, so im sort of speaking out my ass here, but if i were you, i'd study the understanding of what each shape represents, and how it takes up the space it does. idk exactly what im trying to say but i drew up a lil thing to try and explain it.
make sure you're doing those warm up exercises! they helped me a ton even if they aren't impressive to look at afterward.

Bloep

Bumpity

>>11475115
A Drawing discord for those interested:

https://discord.gg/FfEU7th

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finished bat girl
i'm not really sure if i'm coloring ok

>>11507318
you're doing great

>>11507318
Shit's flat, yo. You need darker shadows.

>>11507214
Discord kills threads
Fuck off

>>11507318
I agree with both >>11508163 and >>11508260. It looks great, but it'd benefit from boosting the contrast in the lighting.

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Still not to the point where I feel like I can post regularly and do commissions

>>11508466
Right looks like that insurance company girl
That esurance one
That they stopped using after they found 80 million pounds of porn of her

>>11475115
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/11328591/
real previous thread

>>11505728
Many thanks anon, I'll make sure to start adding the understanding of shapes and space. I've been going throughout the whole day trying to improve slightly with my drawings and doing those exercises in turn.

Bumpu

>>11508260
>>11508391
thanks for the tips!
i have noticed i'm afraid to really push my values. i'll work on that with my next piece

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Silly-ass doodle as a bump. Did this just to check in "I touched a pen today", I need to practice shapes more before attempting shit like that.

Been in a bad mood recently, joined another stupid jam, one week left and I had to scratch my idea, had a terrible headache, doing remodeling in other room, yadda yadda. Tons of excuses to not to draw.

Bony bony

>>11515413
https://youtu.be/Q2jnAwrUq9A

>>11517370
NOW GET OUTTA HEEEERE

Mony mony

Iumo

>>11508295
This thread was dying way before the discord, idiot.
The discord was a way to save those who really want to draw. Fuck off if all you're going to do is say dumb shit.

Sump

Drump

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>filename

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Let this thread die and start one in a few days when people will have stuff to post

>>11527000
What about the discord?

>>11528843
What about it?

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>>11478431
I was lookin around for the creator of this image. I found out that she's a now 25 year old Mexican girl, and her last "actual" drawing was in 2014. She was 22 when she made this.

>>11528843
It's garbage anon, don't bother with it

>>11531851
I love people who draw pretty much the same picture over and over and never improve, their existence is amazing to me

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posting newest work
trying out an older coloring style for a pop-art look

Do any of you guys animated or just draw?

>>11533452
This is pretty good. Maybe try rounding out your lines or blend some colours to make it look softer

Practice

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>>11475115
I have drawn this today

>>11538434
The vagina seems to be in the wrong place, but pretty good

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>>11478431

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tell me how to ink and color this properly
im tired of glorified ms paint and want this to look supremely good for my normal level of work

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>>11478368
first character ref VS recent junk, ~a year and a half difference

i never finish anything these days because i still don't feel comfortable sketching

>>11546672
How did you do the lineart in the right-hand picture? I've tried to imitate that style of line but I haven't quite figured it out yet

>>11546311
I was going to answer you but I realized it's hard to give you advice on it without knowing how you normally approach inking and coloring. Can you post an example of your usual inking/coloring jobs and describe what you don't like about them?

>>11546797
regular circle brush with a high minimum size(80%) and a low minimum density. probbaly like size 10 or something.

It's hella easy to use for when you just want to mess around

>>11547126
Thanks, I knew it was going to be something simple and obvious like that. My problem was that I wasn't cranking up the minimum size at all

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here' a little doodle to help keep the thread alive

>>11546672
hey, i follow you! you make some great stuff, my guy. and you've improved a lot

>>11551033
thanks anon.

(and nice booty)

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>>11478368
roughly one year

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bump

Am I able to get away with posting a furry loli? Need a bit of critique. I think Ive been looking at it too long and cant see what could be wrong with it.

>>11554494
i don't see why not /b/ has loli treads all day

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>>11554506
Ive seen threads deleted here for having it, the WoW thread here which features it heavily feels like an exception, whenever another thread with some similar content crops up it seems to get deleted fairly quickly. No idea.

Anyway, anything majorly wrong with it? Im about done with it but as I said before I could be overlooking things.

>>11554666
the big thing is the feet look undefined and you could probably pull some of the white on to the right shoulder

>>11554666
Seems fine to me, left foot is a little bit too wide maybe?

>>11555192
>>11554703
Help me out here, Im spending more trying to fix this than I have doing the whole drawing, its annoying me to the point where Im just going to scrap it.

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>>11555364
what i said where more of nit picks but hope this helps whit what i saw as wrong

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Sorry for the bad quality shot (I took it on a webcam) but after a long hiatus I've decided to draw a request again. I haven't really drawn humans much so I had to look up some anatomy guides. How's it looking so far?

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>>11555364
Damn dood, relax
I probably should've kept my yapper shut since I don't know how to draw feet
Here's my input, take it with a huge grain of salt since I'm a shitter

Don't scrap the thing in any case, overall it looks great

>>11555512
it looks stiff left leg is shorter then right body seams to be twisting to the left tits look like they are pointing forward and its sideways

>>>11554703
>nit picks
Nah I see it and its some pretty bad mistakes. This is just what I needed, thank you.

>>11555519
Thanks too, this is helpful
>Don't scrap the thing in any case, overall it looks great
Scrap was a harsh word, more "put in the drawer that doesnt get opened"

>>11555955
>>11555501
Weird misquote. Thanks again boyos.

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I've been having too much fun instead of practicing again
Some day I'll learn how to draw torsos

What tablets do you all use? I am on an Intuos small but am thinking of getting the medium instead for less wrist drawing and zooming.

>>11557374
I'm using wacom one small and kinda wish I had a bigger one, but I'm not replacing mine anytime soon

How do I trick people into giving me money for my shitty art

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I tried to up the contrast with this like suggested, but I'm not sure I succeeded.

>>11557374
Huion H610 Pro. Something like that, I can't remember. Definitely get at least a medium size in any tablet though. I had a small for years and it kills ya.

>>11559538
Depends on how "shitty" you are. If you're at least comparable to the people in the /aco/ commission thread (not shitting on them, I like a lot of their art) then try posting there, or having a sale. People love sales.

>>11557108
Nice! You have an appealing style, that's for sure. The head might be a little big/the torso a little short though.

>>11560371
Why doesn't /trash/ have a commission thread?
also good art

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would /trash/ commission me?

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>>11560434

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>>11560434
>>11560438

>>11560413
Thanks! And I think it'd be a good idea if we did, but I'm too nervous of a person to try and make a thread myself.

>>11560521
I'd say to practice a bit more before trying. Focus on line quality, as well as anatomy (especially hands and feet) and creating appealing forms. I'm not so great at it myself, but that's what I'd suggest.
But putting together a comm sheet and posting it places wouldn't hurt any either.

>>11494727
You really need to work on your anatomy and stop symbol drawing.

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>>11560434
No snout == get out

(spoiler)Sorry for vandalizing your work, it's all in good fun. Trash is probably 50% furries, so you might want to consider drawing full blown anthros if you want to pander to /trash/men.(/spoiler)

No idea about actual commission stuff though. Try making a comm sheet like other anon suggested. You have plenty room for improvement, but commissions also depend on prices, popularity and dos/don'ts.

Blamp

>>11557374
i've been using a monoprice 10x6 tablet for years now and never had the trouble people say they've had with the brand. The one i have is out of stock on their site, but they have another 10x6 with double the pressure sensitivity and only like, 10 bucks more than mine.

>>11555512
A redline would be helpful.

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Can someone tell me how color and shading works?

>>11565778
You should learn how to draw better lineart first before you worry about colouring and shading.

>>11566017
fucking this. no level of coloring and shading can save you from bad lineart

Do any of you guys have like a plan when you get at the level you wanted? Like a comic or something.

>>11568563
I never really thought about that

I used to be into video games and ended up seriously studying programming, because I wanted to "make videogames"

But post "indie boom" (AAA tools released for free, Humble Bundle/Steam greenlight happening, "indie scene" forming, etc.) my spark for gamedev has faded pretty badly

I haven't tried my hand at writing and very insecure about even approaching it so probably no comic for me.

I guess in the end I'll eventually just indulge in drawing degenerate and obscure fetishes for myself.

>>11565778
Everything below the waist looks weird
Skirts don't usually behave like that unless they have some rigid frame beneath them
Also it looks like she's standing on her toes while bending over. Is she bending over? Or the viewer is above her, hence the rigid-looking skirt, but then she's sitting?

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>>11565778
before you jump onto shading, you need to master your line work because shading a bad line art is like painting a broken house (you're just wasting time on a broken foundation)

so if you don't mind i try fixing it a little,the legs are too short for the subject so they appear like they are 1-2 meters away from the character so i crop it ,from that angle you could see the 2 eye so i take my libetry to draw it but it could just be a stylistic choice so i made 2 version of the drawing also the tongue look like is rip it from the mouth and attached on the side of the face so i redraw it in the second picture , the dress doesn't make any sense it it look like a wide open umbrella and the face doesn't have a well defined contour so her cheek fur looks like is coming out of her neck but beside that is a pretty good drawing and god damn Delphox deserve more love to many Braixen out here not enough Delphox

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>>11555512
Alright, here's a better image (a proper scan this time) and more up to date. Need some feedback.

>>11568563
maybe a comic or a vidya. However, I also have to work on my creative writing skills, mainly character dialogue, as it's awkward, cringey shit.

>>11489871
the left actually looks better, because of the colored outlines. Im guessing youre going for a mlp style so you should color your outlines again

>>11570768

That filename makes me fear for the future of this image.

>>11571632
There is nothing to fear if you have good taste, anon.

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>>11560399
Thanks, tried to make the torso slightly bigger

Damn I should be working on my gesture and anatomy instead of polishing this, but feeling of inadequacy still haven't kicked in (although I'm not too happy about her arm), so I'll try to polish the thing as much as my current level allows, I guess

>>11568563
I'm a programmer who got tired of projects falling apart because the artist either took months to deliver or decided to flake out.
I don't even fucking like drawing, but I can't make my porn games without art, even if it looks like shit.

>>11572745
What porn game are you trying to make?

>>11574516
I've worked on an Animal Crossing, Zelda, and Tower Girls game and in all three cases the artists went from full enthusiasm to no contact within a month if not a week. And I've programmed quickly. The Zelda game particularly slogged out for a very long time and we even almost finished all the assets for a demo before finally dying too.

Now I'm just making a Pokemon one on my own, but drawing isn't very fun or good.

>>11571521
>>11570211
For me I'm trying to get more animation porn ( mostly western cartoons or videogames), but first I have to improve my drawing/animation.

>>11575879
That sucks, can you share some of the drawing or link it?

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Sketch
Tell me about the shapes and positions of these body parts. Give me your absolute worst.

Ignore colors and design. Not my character, don't care to put effort into coloring.

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drew and coloured this last night.

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Stole some tool setting and been trying them out. Looking for critique on anatomy and clothing. Also, is my style even fit for being attractive?

>>11557108
Don't have to draw torsos if the boobs are big enough.

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>>11576849

Some stuff I can see:
>ear placement is way out of perspective considering she's almost perfectly facing the viewer
>right arm has unusual thickness about it that also looks disproportionate relative to other arm
>tip of the breast looks malformed; if you're trying to draw the contour of a nipple there, I think the placement is off
>belly button alignment is off-center to her torso (and likely too high)
>left hand is unclear; if the thumb is meant to be in front with the rest of the hand wrapping around her waist, it needs clearer representation of such
>gap between thighs should be a tad smaller
>big problem: one leg is resting on the knee, the other the shin; you also would be more likely to see the legs flair out in relatively equal angles opposite of one another relative to her vertical center

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>>11578323
Her neck ornament area is seems confusing to me, but I'm a shitter

Also the shading looks pretty harsh, like in comic books, I personally don't find that aspect appealing

Otherwise it looks good to me

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>>11578741
Recorded, analysed, and understood.
Everything you stated objectively makes sense.

On to make the next drawing even better!

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>>11580048
I thought I uploaded the Thumbs up gif. WHOOOPS

>>11580088
You may have made a mistake, but I needed that laugh.

>>11580088
>>11580048
Regardless, that's still a perfectly fitting image for all drawfags/artists.
>"yeah, i understand these criticisms, pretty valid objectively"
>I WANT TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF

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So I have a Galaxy with a stylus. What're some good android drawing apps? I've just been ghettoing it by using Screen Write on a white screenshot.

Bimp

>come here from /ic/

Holy shit, this is all terrible.

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>>11582286
>implying /ic/ is "better" than /trash/ when it comes to draw help threads

You retards do nothing but bash like autistmos that came fresh out of /pol/. Back to your board.

>>11582338
>comparing /ic/ to /trash/
>saying /trash/ is better than /ic/
People here have literally no talent and the 'help' offered here is trash, get some loomis and come back in 2 years fag.

>>11582373
>haha i have no argument so i use "L O O M I S"
You're truly pathetic like the rest of your board. If you think that your board can "help" the hundreds of what I think are amazing drawfags that support each other like brethen, then go do tell your board to do it, we're actually getting things done here retard.

>>11582407
>calling /ic/ pathetic.

No.

>I think there are hundreds of amazing drawfags who i support as brethren

I laughed at how cringe this was.

This is so pathetic.

>>11582456
t him but
>no actual counter arguments
>getting btfo by degenerate furries

That's pretty fucking sad and pathetic.

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>>11582456
You're bait is next level, why don't you go bother /pol/ with your faggotry?

>this is so pathetic
Yet, you decide to come here like the "amazing /ic/ whiteknight that this shitty board needs". You are fucking hilarious, tell me more about your adventures. I love how much shit you're pulling out of your ass here.

>>11582493
>pretend my valid argument doesn't exist
>use unfunny 'le btfo xD' meme
Puny human.

Also

>Admitting furries are degenerate

Atleast we agree on something

Still have no counter-argument to my statements.

>>11582503
>calling someone pointing out the obvious as bait

cmon.

>GO TO LE POL

Even the most deluded /pol/tard would look down on you guys

>implying I'm a whitenight

This board needs to be deleted.

>>11582543
You can't have a counter argument to your counter argument or even original argument if both doesn't exist.

Still pretty sad you getting btfo hard by furries. Let's go /ic/: Post your work.

>>11582543
Lmfao, now you're struggling to accept the fact that you're getting Blown the fuck out. Just accept the fact that you're pulling shit out your ass and get done with the fact that /trash/ is equally as well as /ic/ can provide.

>this whole board needs to be deleted
Do you want "furry degenerates" like me to invade this entire site or are you that assblasted to realize that this board is FOR furries?

You're just radiating pure autism at this point.

>>11582577
>>11582583
Jesus, you furries are so predictable and samey
>both pretending my argument isn't valid
>both repeating the same 'btfo' meme over and over like a bunch of 12 year olds

Also
>>11582583
>hurr if this board is deleted then we go everywhere

if this board is deleted it shows there is an intolerance to the low-quality low-effort blight that is furryism, this is a breeding ground not a containment board.

>realize that this board is FOR furries?
And yet it is called /trash/.

lel

>>11582819
>didn't post any of their work
Post discarded kid. Noone will take you seriously through their replies from now on until you post your work. They will just keep mocking you.

>>11582863
>haha, I called him kid, another edgy hardcore joke meme for edgy hardcore joke memers like me

>ha ha nobody will take you seriously, post your entire portfolio or else every criticism is invalid ha ha

yawn.

>>11582887
Yawn, post your work kid. If you make another post after this without an example of your work, you admit defeat that degenerate furry drawfags here are better than you.

>>11582903
>completely gives up trying to counter my arguments

>ha ha, yawn kid, post 90000000 pictures of yours or else you lose and us furries win again, another le epic victory for the dogfucker alliance

*sigh*

>>11582819
>let me take 20 minutes to say what im going to say yeah, that'll prove him wrong!
>being this new to this board

I'm clearly guessing you're a newfag. There is no physical way someone can be that retarded to know that this board is made specifically for a certain group of people on 4chan. It's been proven once, and many times again that furries migrate to other board like a virus.

>having an argument at all
Where in ANY of your replies did you have an argument, or an argument where it was actually worth complaining about to this thread? All you said was "lol my board's better u suck". This hurts my head to the point that someone can legitimately try to bait this hard and still think he can win an argument. Plus, we said our "btfos" once, you can barely read past your high school class huh?

That other anon and I are still waiting for your "magical superior art from /ic/" fag, or are you too ashamed that it'll look like our /trash quality work"?

>>11582924
Looks like you admit defeat.
Everyone point and laugh at this kid.

>>11582937
>baseless accusations hahaha ur a newfag, LE GOT HIM IM SO OLDFAG XD

The cringe, it hurts.

>some stupid unfunny dialogue where you assume a bunch of shit and go on a massive crying rant, showing how incredibly mad you are and segway into more asspain.

Jesus, being this mad in 2017.

>Still can't counter my argument
>Demanding my work as a way to try to change subject/topic

Yawn.

>>11582985
>still trying to make a point with his board being yet not having anything to prove

Snooze.

>>11583011
>can't actually respond to my argument
>get mad
>refute everything, place hands over ears and yell loudly "I CAN'T HEAR YOU I'M RIGHT LALALAL"

Furries, truly sad.

why are mommy and daddy fighting

>>11583033
>having this much autism built in him that making fun of the person he's arguing with will get flustered
>HAHA I WON THIS ARGUMENT FUCK ALL YOU MY BOARD IS BETTER LOLOLOL

This is /ic/ everyone, true pieces of art. Gaze at what you become when you don't like /trash/.

>>11583065
>just throwing unfunny insults like 'lol u got le autism xD'
>Still can't counter my argument
>Parroting my own insults because you got no good ones yourself

Why do furries bother?

>>11583091
Why can't you show your work?

>>11583091
you're boring

>>11583117
you're a faggot who replies to bait

>>11583091
Haha, another great counter argument to the many that you have thrown at me! I'll make sure to add those to my book of argument-winning insults!

Why are people so fucking assblasted that we won 6 replies ago? Is just your ego off the ceiling that you lost, or are you trying to bump this thread again and again to "show" /trash/ that our board is nothing more than shit tier artists? All you're really doing is bump-limiting this thread, and I say thank you for it. We do need a new thread for our drawfags anyway.

>>11583117
I work for an actual company, never in my life would I consider posting my work here, It's recognizable.

>>11583126
haw haw

>>11583160
>HAH I WON LE INTERNET ARGUMENT 6 REPLIES AGO! UMAD XD?? FURRY POWAR!!! XDD!!

>UR SO MAD, UR EGO LOL ASSBLASTED UR A SHIT TIER ARTIST AHAHHA BAD UMAD? THANKS FOR LE THREAD BUMP XD

This level of autism is absurd.

>>11583199
If you worked for an actual company you wouldn't be fucking posting bait on the worst board on a latvian glue appreciation board.

Sounds like some serious projection.

>>11583227
>Can't hold a job and shitpost on 4chan
Are you retarded or something?

>>11583249
Alright, alright this faggot has made me laugh way too fucking much. I get the game that he's playing. He's trying to become one of those /pol/tards, so he's practicing how to be as randomly autistic and low IQ as possible. Everyone keep fishing for him, it'll help him out with /pol/.

>>11583302
>Legitimately being this retarded
You tried to counter an argument and got butthurt and ended up trolling yourself. My point still stands.

>>11583337
The work of a pure /pol/tard.

Though, I have to critique on your anger:
>"being this retarded"
Won't be a viable cause on /pol/
>being this fucking retarded (insert reason why he's retarded)
Will work much better. Other than that.
>>>/pol/

Go get em' tiger! You're ready.

>>11583337
what was your point again

>>11583369
>Consistently try to pidgeonhole someone under a steretype to pre-determine their actions and ignore their argument

Thats legit what /pol/ does, you are a legit /pol/tard, more than me or anyone else here.

>>11583417
Scroll up and learn to read.

>>11583532
lol nah I'm not gonna read all that spaghetti, give me the cliff's notes version

>>11583532
>proving your point by swapping what someone said as yours
Now you're working with /pol/, just keep building up that morality and you can even make your own thread!

>>11583611
>completely lost and clueless and endlessly trying to paint me as a strawman of some /pol/tard.
You are really sad dude, how hard are you gonna try to force this /pol/ shit? Just admit your wrong already.

>>11583576
>an "/ic/ elitist" comes in saying that /trash/ is furry shit with no good drawfags
>he never really gave a point and never proved that he was or supporting his claim that /ic/ was in fact better
>has no reason to accept that he lost to furries and now bombs the thread until he gets his way and we accept defeat

>>11583659
Or rather
>regular /ic/ user points out glaring flaws in thread
>endless furfag butthurt over inability to combat basic criticism
>absolute immaturity and inability to counter basic argument
>ad-homenims over and over
>some butthurt dog rapist tries to call the /ic/ critic a /pol/ user, possibly due to extreme butthurt.

>>11583630
Trying the "you're sad or pathetic" will not work out on /pol/ man, you're gonna have to get more of a thorn on your side and man up with your responses.

>>11583685
So, in replacement for an actual argument your just butthurtingly gonna accuse me of being a /pol/ user over and over?

Sorta sad isn't it?

>>11583684
Or rather in fact
>elitist /ic/ user comes into thread
>baits
>gets away with it
>and assumes he won the end of the day

>>11583684
what flaws

>>11583717
This is hilarous, but I am legit not baiting this guy.

>>11583707
No, I'm helping you be more of a neckbeard that will help you on this wonderful world of 4chan. You're gonna need it.

I can clearly see that you've drifted from Reddit being some underage, but you wanted to become a /pol/tard, I get it we all do. But you really got to learn to toughen the fuck up. Half these arguments that you provided were exceptionally bad.

>>11583756
So you've completely abandoned any arguments and making any proper comprehensive argument and your just started throwing out poorly thought out arguments, correct?

>>11583842
quit flirting with your new bf and answer me, faggot

>>11583934
Whats the question

>>11583989
how are you doing

>>11584009
Great, I just finished some work and now I'm going to shitpost on /ic/ and now /trash/ for all of my life

>>11584067
cool

>taking up a significant portion of the thread responding to bait

Don't do that.

>>11584089
How are you

>>11584104
I was half serous

>>11584204
doing pretty good, thanks

>>11584104
best post in the entire thread

I want to post some of my drawings and ask for improvement tips but you guys seem like assholes and it'd probably be a huge waste of my time

>>11584357
>>11583199
>is now posting from their phones to further shitpost

Dude, just stop. Seriously.

>>11584104
ok

I can't draw faces. I want simple faces that aren't overly cartoony but not super-realistic either.

ok how is the faggot who invited ic here?
and for ic ,at least we can draw and not complain all day ,heck even/ i/ draws more the you /i/

>>11584357
Ive seen some nice help here, and there has been SOME good drawings here but its not a common thing. Ill be honest, alot of the drawings that get posted here are, well, shit, these people dont need a red line, they need to go back and work on their fundamentals.

>>11586310
Go look at /ic/ and see that it is actually on average to be better, but thats not the point, youre here for help not to measure youre dick.

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>>11586591
>Go look at /ic/ and see that it is actually on average to be better, but thats not the point, youre here for help
I did not know literally shitposting, rate my shit,not going to make it bitching and what does ic think of x is quality as helping or drawing for that matter but whatever floats your goat i guess

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>>11586591
>Go look at /ic/ and see that it is actually on average to be better

>>11586751
Go to their drawthread and the "post your art" threads and look at the average quality compared to here.

Im not going to look at all the diaper and pony threads here and say thats representative of the artists on this board and in this thread.

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>>11542096
>>11478431
christ

>>11586788
you look at the diaper threads all the time though

>>11586787
>esne · tapestry

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I think the most noticable change i can see in my art is this one, but they're three years apart and for the original im almost certain I wasn't using a reference

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>>11587760
For Christ's sake, get some respect for yourself and your drawings

Don't use lined paper
Don't use pen for "utility" drawing, use pencil and use pen only to put finishing touches, erase the helper lines or draw them faintly
Draw bigger, e.g. on A4, that way you won't get away with drawing "vaguely"
While drawing on bigger scale, start switching from "stick figure" to 3D construction

You don't need special art supplies for that, just a regular pencil, maybe a polymer eraser and some sheets of paper. You can get that for under ten bucks or even for free.

Pump

I have a headache

>>11590955
I have a benis

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So, working on a character concept, and I'm wondering how I'm doing. Specifically, I'm wondering on whether she's looking "main character" enough (or too much), and if there's any technical problems showing at this stage before moving to color.

>>11591311
Looks like an extremely nondescript anime female, if that what's you were going for

>>11591645

Kind of. She's going to be a part of a superhero-esque sort of story, so I was trying for a sort of "mild-mannered Clark Kent" kind of feel. Someone who you'd never suspect.

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my mother passed away recently. She's where I got my creative drive (not the talent, though.) I'm glad I found this thread.

I want to work towards something without a purpose. I think it will be good for me.
experimenting with more dynamic poses than just drawing characters from my stories in anatomical position (to visualize.)

Album slip says "Life goes on, brah" -The Beatles

sorry to unload, I don't really talk to people. And sorry for the bad quality.

I miss you mom.

>>11592183
I'm sorry for your loss, anon. I can only imagine how painful it must be.

Also, that's some interesting mixed media stuff you have going on there.

>pg 10

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>>11578741
>>11580310
>>11580603
Hey I'm back with another. I'm trying to perfect the shortstack formula because that is the only thing I can draw okayish.

Ignore the gun, flat colors, clashing design. Focus on the shapes and pose please.

Be as harsh as you can be.

>>11594542
I drew a quick reference for shortstack stuff a while back

>>11594611
In a previous thread?

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>>11594628
No like, just at some point like a year or so ago. I've posted it in the /aco/ shortstack thread and on my tumblr and shit but here you go.

>>11594697
Is that all? Link to the tumblr?

>>11594786
I don't really do tutorial stuff much!

http://hushhushart.tumblr.com

I do draw shortstacks though, and they're tagged as such so that might help, who knows!

>>11595020
Oh nice, do you take private commissions?

>>11597576
I sure do! Just hit up the commission button on the sidebar for the commission e-mail.

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>>11578741
>>11580310
>>11580603
>>11594611
So I redid the legs a while back on a previous thread.... but something else bugs me.... and I don't know what it is...