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>CHUG Star Convoy when? edition

Old thread: >>6521575
Third party thread: >> >>6515187

>HASCON 2017 STUFF IS OUT:
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/08/hascon-2017-transformers-brand-team-panel-meets-eye-347982
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/08/hascon-2017-pre-panel-display-case-images-power-primes-prototypes-348019

>PICS OF NEW TAKARA RELEASES:

http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/08/09/new-images-legends-lg-58-clonebot-set-lg-59-blitzwing-lg-60-overlord-346656

>LEAKED POTP IMAGES:
http://imgur.com/a/UW5BQ
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Pics of movie black series when?
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>>6522690
>Takara retools PoP Orion/Optimus into Star Convoy
I'd be ok with that
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>>6522698
A new Star Convoy deserves better than being retooled from that piece of shit
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>>6522698
Not happening Geewunner, he lost the poll HARD. Victory is never coming back thank fuck
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>>6522698
>Hasbro retools a Convoy into another Convoy
What would even be the point of that
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So we know that Hasbro is inconsistent as fuck when it comes to content depictions. Does Grimlock seriously have no weapons? Every deluxe Dinobot has been seen with a sword and gun, but the leader doesn't get anything? What's Volcanicus going to use?
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>>6522701
>Star Convoy
>Victory
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>>6522708
Oh fuck off weaboo cunt

No need to get so vicious over a shitty anime, jesus
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>>6522698
I'm waiting to see if PotP Optimal Optimus ends up looking like an obvious base for a Star Saber retool (the power-up armor has to turn into a jet either way, and the shoulders are a somewhat similar)
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>>6522710
>"But anon, that's factually wrong..."
>h-h-hahaha why are u so mad fucking weeb amirite xd
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>>6522711
>being THIS delusional


Oh my fuck
I can't
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Lots of aggro in this thread already. Noice work guys...
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>ITT There are people confusing Star Convoy for Star Saber
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>>6522715
When does more shit get shown?
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@6522701
>6522710
#6522714
Imagine being this autistic
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>>6522712
>stutter memes

The absolute state of Victoryfags right now
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>>6522719
Stay tuned.

Seriously though, probably not in Hascob.
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Classics Prime is the best CHUG Pri-
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>>6522731
Please be retooled into armada prime pleaseeee
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>>6522707
Not all dinobots on dispay had weapons either, some had swords some blasters, some had none, if anything it was a surprise to see both swords and guns, they'll come with 3 accesories counting the combiner hands/armors, Grimlock will include the combiner feet and his matrix core too.. maybe thats why he won't include any weapons, already comes with 3 accesories.
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What do yo think of this homage to a character from a team of Dinosaur robots originating in an anime about transformers titled after winning? Do you expect anything to come from this?
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>>6522731
Aahhhhh feels so good we're getting an Optimal Optimus out of this instead of Shit Saber

Who else /90's/ over here?
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>>6522741
Me
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>>6522738
Sure thing Victorycuck
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>>6522731
When's Thunderclash?
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>>6522714
o.....k?
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When's the next reveals?
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>>6522749
two hours or less
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>>6522748
As I said, nobody cares about post movie Japshit. Primal is too good a mold to waste on Star shitter, a character reviled by anybody with taste
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Warden fucked up and revealed the exitence of the Seacons in an fan question video.

It's happening boys we're getting all the combiners !


I'm counting Dino king as just a better version of monstructor
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>>6522748
What are you trying to prove?
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>>6522738
I wonder if Takara will just skip Starscream and the Dinobots to do Leozack/Liokaiser and Dinoking.
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>>6522754
>yfw every series but Victory gets reps in PotP
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>>6522756
What are any of you faggots trying to prove? Shut the fuck up they are toys. God damn.
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>>6522753
Just because you don't car it doesn't mean it has tons of fans.
>Primal is too good a mold
Literaly pulling shit of out your ass like a monkey, no one knows how good or bad the mold will be yet.
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>>6522754
You better sauce me family
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>>6522705
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>ITT: victoryfags finally get called out
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>>6522748
I know you're baiting but really that's not too big a stretch considering the last few TR leaders along with Broadside/Alpha Trion.
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>>6522761
>Star Saber
>a ton of fans
>literally unknown outside of japan

yeah he sure is popular
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>>6522753
James Roberts, get off 4chan! You've got a comic to write!
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>>6522768
>>literally unknown outside of japan

then how come I have the western-release DVDs of victory?
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>Interviewer: so I see that hasbro made entirely new molds for air and land vehicles this time around. Is there any characters with an underwater alt mode coming since we had none for combiner wars?

>Warden: yeah we have a set in the works
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>>6522760
Legit question. You said that Primal may be remolded into Star Saber and someone called you out. Then you showed two robots that don't remotely look like similar
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Looks like some of the dinobots will suffer from gps in the future, especially Grimlock.
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>>6522771
They made official releases of Victory for America? When?
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>>6522774
It's not even gold plastic, it's just clear plastic with the hollow undersides painted gold.
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>>6522748
Way to use a 3p fig. Could've at least used the show model.
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>>6522768
Victory aired outside of japan dubed in the 90s dummy.
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>>6522756
Just that through the CHUG-ification of those two characters—and with the intention of sharing a mold—it would be easy enough to pass off at a degree that passes HasTak's standards.

We're talking about the same company that made Powermaster Prime from Ultra Magnus, Highbrow from Scourge, and Broadside from Alpha Trion.
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>>6522766
>Sky Lord and Over Shadow
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>>6522784
not american mate.
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I don't want star saber he looks like a ko gundam

Give me Roadblock or any of the other mega pretenders
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>>6522794
This. Fuck Star Saber and fuck victory
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>>6522788
>>6522771
Irrelevant
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>>6522787
God that toy is so shitty. I hope the new one can manage at least just ONE good mode.
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So what I'm guessing is that today they'll show the terrorcons, and then tomorrow they'll show the combined dinobots and abominus
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>>6522802
What are the chances the inner Primal bot will be better than this?
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>Transformers had a Headmasters line
>Takara tailors its releases to the Headmasters anime
>Going far enough to include figures of characters who weren't headmasters but were in the anime
>Even retooling figures to look more like the anime
>Made an entirely new exclusive mold just to have the whole cast in plastic form

>People think we won't get Victory toys
>Despite Starscream's combiner torso resembling Liokaizer's
>Despite having a team of combining dino robots
>Despite the leader class gimmick being a dead ringer for Brainmasters
>Despite legends duocons that could be redecoed into the multiforce
>The denier will not argue any of these points and just bitch about Victory
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>>6522747
Hopefully not out of that shitty mold, my boy Thunderclash deserves his own sculpt.
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Apparently the legends class will be shown as well today. There's a rumor of a cross sell image of deluxe Grotesque and Repugnus
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>>6522731
I'm loving that Orion Pax but Optimus as a whole doesn't look that amazing. The arm panels and the backpack aren't very graceful.
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>>6522815

To be fair, classic prime's arm panels are even worse.
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>POWERMASTERS OPTIMUS/ GOD GINRAI
>upgrade into regular Prime
i don't understandu
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>>6522821
That's a good point.
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>>6522764
That's not a fair comparison, G1 Megatron and Armada Megatron obviously have a distinctively different color scheme that makes the repaint worthwhile. In comparison, repainting G1 Convoy into Star Convoy is literally the same as repainting a red and blue figure into another red and blue figure. There's just no point in recoloring him because the predominant difference between the two is in the shape and robot design instead of the colors, which means there's hardly anything a repaint could add to make him look anything like SC. Not even a remold would work since the new Prime obviously doesn't have the same tall stature.
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>>6522812
These mental gymnastics are pitiful, Victorycuck
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>>6522833
Maybe it'll be a Powermaster/Magnus Prime case? Takara could get away with releasing the smaller Orion figure seperately while making it compatible with a Leader Star Convoy.
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Anyone else thinks a fair Star Convoy would have to be a Titan Class? If they could sell three characters that are literally-whos for a general audience on the premise of just being huge then they sure as hell could sell a massive Optimus Prime.
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>>6522846
Nah, making the new Prime look anything like Star Convoy would take so much remolding that it would probably be easier to just design a new figure from scratch. One is a square-ish chubby robot, the other is a tall anthropomorphic beast with an incredibly angular design in both modes. Even that Magnus / Ginrai mold would make more sense for SC.
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>>6522855
Why the hell would I want an Optimus as tall as Fort Max?
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>>6522502
>Will BW Dinobot be a gurl then?
Yes.

>>6522504
Fuck off.

>>6522520
>Slash is another transgender robot!
You go and fuck the hell off too.
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>>6522711
>After years of half-assed regurgitations, fans are no longer capable of desiring new or unique molds for the characters they want. Instead the best they choose to hope for are retools.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>6522875
Airhead Roberts, pls go back to /co/ and discuss Visionaries vs TFs.
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>>6522789
>sharing a mold
>That pic
Sharing a backbone and thighs doesn't count as "sharing a mold".
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>>6522879
It's a kind of Stockholm syndrome.
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>>6522889
oh, nice
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>>6522855
Titan class? Sure. But then, let's make the Micromasters into Titanmaster-sized bots.
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>>6522794
>>6522795
Fuck you both, Star Saber is awesome.
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>>6522741
I love it just for all the buttblasted anons it's caused.
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>>6522884
Maybe not, but it still means the toy has to be designed around shared parts. This limits the possibilities for the figure. Chromedome and Blurr/Brainstorm share the same waist and thighs, and so they have almost identical leg transformations.
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>>6522690
Fun fact:tr voyager prime is a dual homage to star convoy, hence when we saw those leaked blueprints the star convoy head was included.

His colors still carry that concept, seems like has-tak are trying to bring him around but in homages, anyone remember the white voyager prime from cw?

Star convoy shaped head, why in white...dunno, homaging nova prime I suppose
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>>6522871
Go BIGGER
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>>6522855
Because why not
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>>6522701
>>6522710
>>6522724
How embarrassing.
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>>6522812
Is it me or does Victory Denier sound a lot like the guy who swore that Generations Springer got cancelled?
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>>6522707
combiner vaginas hanging off your forearms is really silly. that still counts as kibble right?
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So starscream, and thus all potp voyagers will be combiner torsos.

We know starscream is also getting retooled into elita 1 as per leaks (for what purpose I can't say), but wasn't there UP TO wave 4 of leaks or 3?

Would we get enough limbs and a chance of a liozack to complete this or is all of this leokaiser talk wishful thinking?
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>>6522871
I'd love a 2ft tall Optimus that could carry GI Joe sized figures
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>>6522812
>People think we won't get Victory toys
>Despite Starscream's combiner torso resembling Liokaizer's
>Despite having a team of combining dino robots
>Despite the leader class gimmick being a dead ringer for Brainmasters
Warden doesn't care about missing no-brainer opportunities, re: Horrorcons. He'll do whatever he wants and you fucks will buy it anyway.
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>>6522735
God, no. It'd end up just as shitty as CW "armada" Megatron
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How many hours until the next plastic reveals? I don't understand the schedule for shit,
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>>6522711
Lol, i said that in the last thread
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>>6522915
>(for what purpose I can't say)
- One of Starscream's rivals in IDW right now is Elita-1
- She ain't got many toys
- Her alt mode was only partially seen for like, a second in the cartoon, so liberties can be taken
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>>6522915
each generations subline has gotten six waves, though sometimes the last one is just repacks like TR Voy W6 or CW Deluxe W6. There's also the possibility of getting 4 or 5 boxsets which can have 5 or 6 figures each. That gives plenty of time to add in limbs for at least one or two new combiner teams.

That said, I think the Starscream Liozack will be a Takara exclusive bundle with the CW Liokaiser limbs since Hasbro already ran on that money train. We know that we're getting fembot limbs for Elita, so that means we might just get Pirahna con at standard retail if >>6522754 isn't memeing. Otherwise, we only have the rough approximation for the first 3 PotP waves, so anything could happen at this point.
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>>6522927
Her role in IDW came after the development of the toy you dummy
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>>6522927
>Her alt mode was only partially seen for like, a second in the cartoon, so liberties can be taken

So...skullcruncher to krok basically.

But without the nifty fitting touch, sadly only good gen toy of elita one would have been an arcee retool, new head, chest piece, her alt mode wasn't on screen long but its still a car
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>>6522805
Great toy, bad deco
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>>6522805
Pretty high.
If prime is any indication, they're gonna put a good bit of effort in the alt mode
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>>6522896
Hope you can shell out 150 for that MP then, because Hasbro isn't catering to your man child weaboo needs
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>>6522942
I would say that's more a compliment, reaching out for that high end restrant taste that is the mp, over what is essentially fast food, the generations line.

You can buy more of them but quality>quantity, and I say this as a collector of both
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>>6522947
You can't even spell right
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>>6522879
Welcome to 2017, anon.
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>>6522955
GODF BLESS WARDEN
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>>6522950
Lfet?
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>>6522731
-me
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>>6522930
IDW Elita-1 showed up proper in an released in September, 2015. Toy development is 1-2 years. The timeframe doesn't match up for the comic to be developed after the toy.
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>>6522967
in an issue released*
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>>6522964
>DON'T TRUST ANYONE
>NOT EVEN YOUR TRAILER
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>>6522964
it's the back of the alt mode who caaares
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>>6522915
I'm guessing Hasbro is trying to put characters that can stand alone in the regular waves, the usual guys like Starscream, Dinobots and Jazz. Liokaiser and Monstructor/Dinoking will probably be out in sets.
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>>6522977
>it's the back of the alt mode
The back HALF of the alt mode.
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>>6522964
>head between the legs in vehicle mode

well that''s interesting.
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>>6522975
Kekles

>>6522977
People who have standards actually do sort of care about a vehicle that looks terrible from literally any angle that isn't frontal, I'm afraid :/
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>>6522990
If you had standards you wouldn't be buying hollow crap anyway. It's fine.
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So is PotP getting a MASSIVE budget hike or what?

There's no way this Leader class gimmick would ever fly in TR or CW and the deluxe Dinobots look like they have pretty high parts counts
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>>6522994
Yeah, exactly, that's why I didn't buy anything from CW and was fairly selective when it comes to TR.
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>>6523000
As a result we get a redeco of rodimus and multiple reissues of optimus for the first 3 waves before we get primal

As for the other figures I'd say cw and tr's final waves helped save budget
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Not sure if I should buy Optimus or Grimlock when POTP comes around.
I like the character of Grimlock slightly more but the robot mode for him kind of looks like ass, though the Dino mode isn't terrible. Prime's robot mode on the other hand looks great and the truck mode could be a lot worse.

I might just get Slash to satisfy my Dinobot needs. I already have TM Clobber on the way, and Grimlocks best design aspect has always been his helmet.
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>>6523000
Just wait until you see that being accompanied by a price hike, buddy.
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>>6523021
I think
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>>6523012
>the truck mode could be a lot worse
Not really, this is easily the worst truck mode for a CHUG Prime we've ever seen. It only looks good if you're looking at it from an exclusively frontal angle, even the crappy 2006 Deluxe didn't have as much crap hanging off the cab rear as this one did.
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>>6523024
Alt chest configuration or a place for the prime sparks to rest inside the chest?

Because the later makes sense
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>>6523021
>>6523024
Dem doritoscream proportions though

I don't trust that to be stable at all though. I can't even tell if the parts the arms are pegged into lock in place or anything.
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>>6523012
>and the truck mode could be a lot worse.
...How?
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>>6523021
It looks like an improvement from Combiner Wars but that's not saying much. A pity this now means the best-looking combiner until now is also basically a fanmade that no one's really gonna want the figures for.
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>>6523021
>>6523024
Wow that is a mess
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>>6523025
>>6523031
Good point. I guess Grimlock might be the better option, and he'll probably be better for shelf space too.
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>>6523028
>pls...kill...grimlock
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>>6523024
Monkeys paw.
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>>6523024
Honestly combiners were a fucking mistake.
I don't think there's ever been a good Transformer made up of smaller bots
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>>6523037
I would say Prime is still worth getting for how good both Orion Pax and the full combined figure look, but lord, fuck that truck mode.
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When are the new reveals happening today?
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>>6523032
Is this what a hipster sounds like?
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>>6523052
Is this what a CW apologist sounds like?
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>>6523048
No.
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>>6523021
Weird how it requires the extra hands to fill the torso, welp, more work for perfect effect.
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When do we see the actual toy of Starscreams combined mode
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>>6523028
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>>6523045
There probably has but only by virtue of making the individual components complete fucking trash like Rail Racer. It's safe to say Scramble City has never producing anything with real merit outside the novelty provided by the concept.
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>>6523048
In about 4½ hours.
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>>6523045
>I don't think there's ever been a good Transformer made up of smaller bots

P R E P A R E
F O R
E X T E R M I N A T I O N
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>>6523073
Can't do shit without elbows and bicep swivels, damn it.
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>>6523057
There's no need to apologize for anything.
Combiner Wars made the best looking and most functional combiners in the market, not that it means they were good. Volcanicus is just garbage.
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>>6523021
Maybe I'll get the redeco if there is one but I've no desire to own a set of G1 dinobots and a combiner of them and their colours even less so.
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>>6523030
Actually I think the forearms peg into the shoulders or something to stay in place

Another concern is that his combined thighs look like they're done exactly the same way as Menasor so expect awkward hip artiulation
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>>6523079
>Combiner Wars made the best looking and most functional combiners in the market
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>>6523079
For their price point, mind you. Which is fine.
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>>6523021
Wheres Slash? does she form the cod piece?
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>>6523092
>she
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>>6523092
The scouts will be used as guns this time, mark my words
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>>6522990
>People who have standards actually do sort of care about a vehicle that looks terrible from literally any angle that isn't frontal, I'm afraid :/
Nah, that ain't right.

I mean, let's look at the context and the options available.

The context is, these are Transformers. They're not just robots, nor just vehicles/alt-modes. Therefore, sacrifices will have to be made purely from a "laws of physics" and economic standpoint. If someone with "standards" can't accept that a Transformer probably won't be a perfect representation of a robot and its alt-mode, especially for the price they're paying, then the options are thus:

a) They're highly self-entitled and delusional. to the point of not being able to accept reality.
b) They're "autistic". Or you know, just plain dumb to the point of being mentally retarded.
c) They're acting dumb because they think it makes them seem "cool" to be arbitrarily critical.

These are not insults or criticisms aimed at you. This kind of attitude is present in all walks of life, not just among toy collectors. It's like someone who wants to buy a brand new luxury car but doesn't want to fork out the cash, yet is unwilling to either take an older or less high-end model. This person has "good tastes"and "high standards", but unless he accepts reality and makes sacrifices/compromises, he'll probably end up not getting anything.

Err, sorry about the soap boxing.But tl;dr, people who bitch about an otherwise serviceable alt-mode, such as a car mode, because they can see robot bits in the undercarriage, are DUMB.
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>>6523093
yes. it's a girl robot anon.
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>>6523093
Yes? Slash is a girl.
>>6523092
Nothing's said she combines.
>>6523094
Prime Masters are already doing that. And what do you mean, "this time"? It's already happened.
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>>6523095
I'm glad you summed up why people bitching about insignificant arm panels on the best CHUG Optimus toy are dumb.
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>>6523099
>Titan master compatibility
Dank as hell. If all of the Legends class POTP toys are like this I might just stick with them
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>>6523095
Kek, you can't even refute the point you're replying to with that massive rant. No one would care if it was just a few robot parts in the undercarriage, but they hang off so far into the truck bed that the whole vehicle does indeed looks like utter shit from any angle besides the flat front.
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>>6523100
If only the POTP one was Voyager sized. It'd be class.
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>>6523104
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>>6523111
Beachcomber's the best reveal so far, really.
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>>6523111
holy shit you can see the TM driving in there

that alone is much exciting reveal than the whole power armor ordeal
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>>6523099
>>6523111
>kept the only good part of TR (functional cockpits) and left out the shit part (the cube shaped partsforming heads)

based kino POTP line.
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>>6523116
But anon, that was already done in Titans Return, every Legends figure also had a cockpit of sorts for TMs.
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>>6523095
>Therefore, sacrifices will have to be made purely from a "laws of physics" and economic standpoint.
Except here it all falls squarely onto the latter considering there's compromises in both of orion pax's modes in addition to the thing being FOC-tier swiss cheese. There's a difference between compromising because of a restricted budget and just fucking the thing's shit up like CW Devestator or Airachnid because you're too much a disgusting bean counter to waste a single red cent.
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>>6523119
>and ruins everything by making the deluxes and voyagers CW retools complete with all the problems of that line
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>>6522942
Joke's on you bud, I already own it and love it. :D
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>>6523088
I mean, we can laugh together about how ugly and cheap they are as you order a second Warbotron set because you destroyed it when you had to use a hydraulic tool to assemble it, hear the creaking of the joints break some windows, and bet on times for Ordin to fall apart; but that won't change that Combiner Wars still made the best CHUG combiners to date.
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>>6523131
Aw, sure thing honey. Now go play with your Playskool toys while we talk about grown up stuff, okay? :)
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>>6523131
And now they're giving us Abominus and Predaking as well. How hype is that?
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>>6523133
Do you even enjoy your toys or are you too adult for that.
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>>6523133
Yes, I really want to become a cyborg just to be able to transform an action figure.
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Is Cindersaur going to be the Terrorcons' sixth Legends member?
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>>6523100
>insignificant arm panels
they are shields u guise!
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>>6522710
>anime reaction image
>vicious
Kek thin-skinned fag
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Anyone know where an EU fag can score a decently priced Quickslinger? plz
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>>6523111
Woah mama
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>>6523092
Maybe a Sword?
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When will they announced Defensor "defender of mankind"?
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>>6522871
worked for DOTM, granted it's not FM size but people loved that shit
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>>6523112
>>6523116
>>6523153
this is two month old news
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>>6523151
kapowtoys or ebay are your best bet
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>>6523172
Not all of us are on here 24/7 or keep vigils at That Fancy Website.
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>>6523177
It ain't on Kapow and it's basically all triple digits on eBay.
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>>6523178
it was shown at fucking SDCC
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>>6523187
Salty Dave's Crooked Carport? Shit no wonder I missed it.
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>>6523191
san diego comic con, where the power of the primes line was unveiled. it was not a minor event.
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>>6523183
>tfw a toy you bought triples in price
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>>6523093
>Clever girl
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>>6523193
Hmm. Never heard of it.
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>>6523165
Transformers vs GI Joe is the best comic either franchise has ever had
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>>6522772
For realzies?
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>>6523204
Hoi doi shitty art, Stan Kirby wannabe.
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>>6523144
Hopefully. We need another female Decepticon.
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So is there gonna be nothing revealed today, or is just gonna be until later?
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>>6523232
>cindersaur
>female
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>>6523238
Isn't it like a repaint of Slash?
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>>6523229
It's like that on purpose, you have to read it to properly comprehend
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>>6523243
Being a redeco of a character does not automatically make that redeco the same gender as that character.
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I'm confused, why did everyone say there would be a second panel today?
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>>6523235
Probably nothing else until whatever major event they have next, the people saying otherwise are either trolling or in denial.
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>>6523270
Because Hasbro's been teasing information that they haven't shown yet.
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>>6523270
What's the time at in the place of the con, is it too late?
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>>6523266
It will when IDW hears about this
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>>6523285
IDW Cindersaur is male.
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>>6523270
They had a panel today, but I think it was all just people from the G1 cartoon.
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>>6523288
Just like Anode?
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>>6523291
No, Anode's female and has only ever been depicted as female.
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The Primes are such losers in the IDW comics.

I am desperately rooting for them to be... ha ha... pretenders.

>Primus creates Guiding Hand
>Guiding Hand creates First Thirteen (If the Hand are Gods, the Primes are demi-gods)
>First Thirteen populate Cybertron
>Guiding Hand falls to war
>First Thirteen restore peace and order to Cybertron afterwards
>After millions of years of peace, the Thirteen decide to spread peace and order to the universe
>They leave, but each leave behind artifacts and special sparks to empower a chosen successor
>First Thirteen enter myth as the 'Knights of Cybertron'
>Millions of years pass
>Power leads to corruption; Primes are like the legendary kings of ancient Rome
>Successor Primes become increasingly tribalistic; nations separate out more and more
>The Primes seen in the most recent issues are the last, most degenerated bearers of the title; most are no longer able to utilize the power of the holy artifacts they inherited
>Some of them (Megatronus, Alpha Trion, Onyx) fanatically seek to embody what they view as the founding ideals of their line, while others (Alchemist) have become apathetic, but they have all strayed far from what they are supposed to be
>"Prime Masters" are the pure sparks the First Thirteen left behind
>They have gone into hiding as their wielders became corrupt and unworthy, hence the 'Decoy Suits'
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>>6523291

Just stop paying so much attention to that aspect. It has no impact on the story at all. They put it in there to trigger you. Don't let them laugh at your expense.
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>>6523300

Also, check this out. Billions of years?
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>Stores restocked CW Wave 6 again
>No Sky Lynx this time as well
Why would they skip just the Voyager?
I can still get it from Kapow for the same price, but I'd really like to see it in-hand first.
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>>6523301
>They put it in there to trigger you. Don't let them laugh at your expense.
They put it in there to be inclusive towards trans people, not as some sort of attack against people. Also, that's not what trigger means.
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>>6523320
- Deluxe waves and Voyager waves are two different things
- Why are your stores stocking new, old product?
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>>6523321
>They put it in there to be inclusive towards trans people
Exactly, that is why it is an attack. Nobody is enshrining schizophrenics or asking for bipolar representation in media.
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>>6523325
Yes they are and yes they are. Those two things aren't similarly comparable to being trans anyway. See my previous image.
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>>6522690
Is picrelated worth buying?
Or should i wait for that next line Optimus with chest opening to reveal the Matrix?
I dont have any Optimus figures in my collection.
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>>6523328
>Or should i wait for that next line Optimus with chest opening to reveal the Matrix?
Is that something that's important to you? If yes, wait. If no, buy that one. Or both. Or neither. Make your own decisions, you don't have to rely on other people in this manner.
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>>6523327
>Those two things aren't similarly comparable to being trans anyway.
They all are mental disorders. Back to the loony bin with you, /toy/mblr.
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>>6523322
>Deluxe waves and Voyager waves are two different things
God damn it. Should I bite the bullet and just get it from Kapow?

>>6523322
>Why are your stores stocking new, old product
No idea, they also got Wave 4 Deluxes like two weeks ago along with some Vipers.
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>>6523325
Isn't Wreck-gar a schizophrenics\? And isn;t Counter-Punch Bipolar?
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>>6523329
>Or both.
i would never have more than 1 figures of one character. thats stupid
>>6523329
>Is that something that's important to you?
Yes? did you read my post?
>>6523329
>Make your own decisions
I wanted to know how the figure feels/the quality from anons who already own it.
You delusional af.
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>>6523330
You are operating on faulty and outdated information. BTW, Pluto isn't a planet.
>>6523333
No, and no.
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>>6522711
I want this more than the fucking monkey.
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>>6523333
That's racist towards junkions and unpatriotic for cybertronians.

>>6523335
>You are operating on faulty and outdated information. BTW, Pluto isn't a planet.
I mean, if you don't know that LGBTQRESFJYTGFDSFBNMYUTFGSCDFVBHNFHYTGD+ ideology tainted psychology in the 60s/70s and got their "identities" out of the DSM for political reasons, maybe I am.
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>>6523333
>Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by abnormal social behavior and failure to understand what is real. Common symptoms include false beliefs, unclear or confused thinking, hearing voices that others do not hear, reduced social engagement and emotional expression, and a lack of motivation.
>Bipolar disorder, previously known as manic depression, is a mental disorder that causes periods of depression and periods of elevated mood. The elevated mood is significant and is known as mania or hypomania, depending on its severity, or whether symptoms of psychosis are present. During mania, an individual behaves or feels abnormally energetic, happy, or irritable.Individuals often make poorly thought out decisions with little regard to the consequences. The need for sleep is usually reduced during manic phases. During periods of depression, there may be crying, a negative outlook on life, and poor eye contact with others.
No.
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>>6522747
in the dustbin of history with all the other obscure shit that IDW fanwanks.
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>>6523328
TR has
>Head Master
>Triple changer
>Sword
>Decent articulation
But
>Huge gaudy preapplied stickers that will peel and scrape off
>Ugly wings in jet mode
>Lazy hollow seat gun
>Annoying side ears that pop up uncontrollably

I would say wait for Leader Prime. He's got a neato Orion mini bot and is almost a dead ringer of the masterpiece design. He won't be out til at least December though. Unless you like the pros of this guy more than the cons, just wait.
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>>6523352
Yeah stickers were bothering me too. So as wings. kind of weird as my first Optimus toy choice.
+ im super hard over that chest piece opening gimmick.
However i will get it to my post soviet town in more than a half+1 year so i wasnt sure...
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>>6523265
I've read it all. The art sucks and the story is retarded.
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hasbro fans are such ass.
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>>6523021
I am going to wait for weijiang to fix and enlarge this thing.
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>>6523300
You just made this timeline up.
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>>6523362
No shit sherlock
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>>6523363
Your autism isn't even /toy/ related, go start a Transformers thread on /co/ if you want to write fanfic. And everyone knows the knights of Cybertron are really the Quintessons.
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>>6523392
Wasn't me that wrote it. Quit assuming, genius.
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>>6523396
Sure you didn't slickAy
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>>6522921
>combining dino robots

If I have to buy a damn boxset for a decepticon ankylosaur transformer....I'll probably cave.
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>>6522921
>Despite the leader class gimmick being a dead ringer for Brainmasters
The TR gimmick was a dead ringer for Squeezeplay, Fangry, Snapdragon, Apeface, Siren, Nightbeat, Hosehead, Terri-bull, and Armada Sideways but instead we got 3 Optimus Primes, Hot Rod, and a random monsterbot.
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>>6522792
>>6522784
Definitely released, several years ago in fact
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>>6522813
Yeah. Thunderclash deserves better.
I kind of want the Turbomasters to be released as a combiner team because of their similarities with super sentai; the team work in an otherwise dysfunctional faction like the autobots, their different but not too different personalities, the color coding; and that new Jazz looking pretty good, though.

Some retard here was hoping for a fucking Crasher before Hurricane and I fucking hope Warden doesn't pay attention to fembot shilling.
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>>6522768
How did he make it so high in the potp pills then? Doesn't matter anyhow I have the master piece
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>>6523328
Absolutely if you like G2 Optimus
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>>6523328
Weirdest thing IMO about this Optimus: being a triple changer is so unappealing that I'd buy if it wasn't a triple changer.
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>>6523328
The new Prime comes out in December. I'd suggest you wait and get that one in the little over two months you'll have to wait. And in the mean time get Combiner Wars Megatron if you don't already have him. He's leader class so he should scale nicely.
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>>6523357
That's nice, dear.
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>>6523432
Speaking of MPs, Starsaber even managed to win a poll for characters to become an MP figure. He even won with a pretty big margin.

Considering Hasbro released Skyshadow already, I can't see why they would hesitate to make a figure that would sell in both markets
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>>6523320
I've yet to find Titans Wolfwire. Already have SkullCruncher and Mindwipe, all I want is a Wierdwolf...maybe a Triggerhappy too.
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>>6523265
I come from nu/co/, we don't "read" comics.
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>>6523334
>i would never have more than 1 figures of one character. thats stupid
Good luck with that kid. You can start out with that lofty goal but eventually you will find a character that has 2 different toys that you like equally for completely different reasons. The you're fucked and you'll just have to deal with having 2 on your shelf.
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>>6523425
What's wrong with Crasher? She's one of the best characters in Challenge of the GoBots
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>>6523460
Not a transformer, but even if it was please save your vagina fodder for after they are finished with the cool figures kudasai.
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>>6523328
>>6523446
Also this Megatron has several upgrade kits to make him more G1 and scale better against MP Prime.
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>>6523449
To be fair, there's still the whole cultural boundary when it comes to star saber. And while a lot of people are turned off by the fact that he looks like a gundam (he is designed by the same guy who designed gundams) it really does come to the fact that he was made specifically for the Japanese audience and has mostly kept to that for ~30 years.

Basically Takara cares a lot more about star saber than hasbro does.
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>>6523449
And the finals for the PotP poll.

Of course, this one I feel is a bit iffy. I feel like it was rigged for ease of retooling. If Starsaber or Deathsaurus won, then no work would need to be done. If Magnus won, then he'd be an easy retool of the Leader Prime. Optimus Primal could be a Starsaber retool. Something just seems fishy.
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>>6523463
Too bad, they already canonized her in 2007
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>>6523229
>>6523357
nice to see that you're an idiot with bad taste
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>>6523469
I don't buy it because Warden said that he was really hoping Hound would win (apparently Hound is one of his favourite characters)

I'd have been interested in that if only to see how they hulkshit him out though, probably make him resemble Movie Hound
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>>6523465
Forgot pic
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>>6523466
>And while a lot of people are turned off by the fact that he looks like a gundam (he is designed by the same guy who designed gundams)

But he looks nothing like a Gundam, though, he looks more like your basic non-real world vehicle diaclone. He looks natural next to Ultra Magnus. Besides, they released wing Saber when I was a teenager, so there's some nostalgia to be had. Even back in the 90's the fandom had interest in the Japanese stuff.
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>>6523474
>not recognizing that Hoi doi anon just takes the contrarian opinion and retards it up.
He's lit'rully been doing this for months.
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>>6523469
I'm of the opinion that Hasbro plans on doing figures for everyone who was on that poll, the results merely affect the order of release
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>>6523352
Don't the PotP Voyagers and Leaders also have shitty preapplied stickers too?
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>>6523470
Point still stands. Which one you want first, the generic gril 80s supervillain or the autistic defense strategist?
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>>6523490
>Crasher
>generic
t. Hasbrocuck who never watched the GoBots cartoon.
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HOLY SHIT! At Hascon, Warden just walked past me with a badly concealed leader Blackout! The hype is real guys.
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>>6523491
What's unique about being the loyalestest to the cause and also a girl?

>>6523502
Don't play with my heart, anon.
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>>6523484
There are a lot of elements from Okawara's style where star saber and a gundam would look alike. But takara designers have brought in that diaclone touch to him to still put in concrete that he is in fact a transformer.

Thing is, that I've seen many TF fans saying how much he does look like a gundam which would vary upon fans ofc depending on what a person sees as a "TF" elements and what is a "gundam" element.
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>>6523266
>Being a redeco of a character does not automatically make that redeco the same gender as that character.
We aren't talking about gender, we're talking about sex. Fuck off back to tumblr.
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>>6523490
I actually know about one of those, guess which one it is

Here's a hint, it's the character who got toys and a cartoon appearance in the US and several updates in the modern lines, not some nobody from Europoor in 1992

I like Thunderclash and Skyquake well enough but when it comes to their underlings, who fucking cares
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>>6523451

Wolfwire is in the wave with Misfire/Windblade/Twin Twist. He shouldn't be too hard to find.
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>>6523504
>>6523504
>the loyalestest to the cause
That's Fitor.
In just the first five episodes of Go-Bots we get a pretty focused portrait of Crasher
>she laughs inappropriately and frequently but doesn't speak a whole lot
>she has energy earthquake boots
>she was a demolition derby racer
>she had a crush on Leader-1
>she's sadistic
That's more character than Arcee.
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>>6523466
That could be an issue. Still, Hasbro has done Overlord and Generations Jetfire was very Macross inspired. I don't think aesthetics would be what's holding him back.
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Point still stands Starsaber is a huge bitch and is shit. Dino King owns because he's a cybernetic dinosaur combiner, Liokaiser owns because he has two tanks and combines into this bipedal cat guy in weird colors, Dezarus owns because he's a space dinosaur.

Star Saber's character, concept, and execution are all garbage compared to the villians, it's like having another fucking Optimus Prime. It's nothing unique. People want shit like Dinoking because he's unique, people want predaking because he's unique, same with the seacons.

Star Saber's only point of novelty is looking like a generic robot from an entirely different series. Something that even Jetfire couldn't even pull off and he was from fucking Macross.
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>>6523346
>I mean, if you don't know that LGBTQRESFJYTGFDSFBNMYUTFGSCDFVBHNFHYTGD+ ideology
What "ideology"?

>tainted psychology in the 60s/70s and got their "identities" out of the DSM for political reasons, maybe I am.
They didn't get their "identities" out of anywhere except of a medical necessity. You need to do your research.
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>>6523518
Right on the account of Star Saber being shit, but honestly everything from Victory is. Especially the delusional fans
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>>6522738
>http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/08/hascon-2017-pre-panel-display-case-images-power-primes-prototypes-348019

I could see Takara retooling the new Dinobots for Dinoforce as dinosaurs instead of dinosaur pretender shells
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>>6522805
Figure wasn't bad, but that color scheme was. Prefer the one that was colored more like a real gorilla.

Would of been better with actual weapon accessories instead of the giant hoverboard/bazooka.
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>>6523270
I for one have no issue with G1-ifying Slash
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>>6523517
Aesthetics aside, I think it's more to do with an emotional attachment to star saber that's more on the japanese side of transformer's history. He's the yuusha granddaddy. He's the prototype to the series that temporarily replaced TF in the 90s.
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>>6523516
>she laughs inappropriately and frequently but doesn't speak a whole lot
>she had a crush on Leader-1
>she's sadistic
Truly, a deep and unique character.

>she has energy earthquake boots
>she was a demolition derby racer
Those are a power and an occupation, they barely inform you on her character.

>Arcee
I don't like Arcee either if that's what you're implying.

Man, transforming robot toys media has been shit at female characters now that I think of it. What was the best female in the first accepted continuity? Blackarachnia?
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>>6523518
>>6523522
roberts pls
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I hope they do Star Saber just so I can watch Hasbrofags sour grape over the inevitable Takara exclusive Victory Leo just like they did with Godbomber.
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>>6523539
Arcee. Black Arachnia was just a cliche "I'm baaaaaad and sexy" bad guy with a shitty name.
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Goddamn do transformers fans bitch about everything? I am new to all of this, I started with titans return toys but geez man.

Can't we all just appreciate what we get? I remember as a kid it was impossible to find certain toys. Now we get all these g1 and g2 throwbacks.
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At Hascon-anon chiming in. This food is fucking delicious!
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>>6522554
I've thought about collecting some GI Joes for that exact reason. Baroness inside my Alternators Ravage, Marissa Faireborn with Thundercracker.

I'm thinking of getting the Binaltech car Thundercracker just so she could ride inside him.

How do Joes scale with say, the Human alliance figures?
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>>6523560
Does it transform?
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>>6523563
It will transform into shit in a few hours.
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>>6522562
It's not the best mold.
I have the CW Ultra Magnus, and he looks cool, but he also feels really cheap and hollow, and he flops around a bit too.

I never understood why people had such a hard-on for the Ginrai release, when of course it was gonna have the same problems.
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Holy shit they just showed Predaking!! He looks amazing!
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>>6523569
I know. Can't wait.
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SEACONS!
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>>6523487

First time I've ever seen anyone mention it, so clearly I'm just someone else who recognizes how terrible it is.

>>6523474
>liking a book with terrible art and completely ridiculous story
>telling other people they have bad taste

Nigerian please.
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>>6523559
You better fucking believe it. Transfags will bitch about everything. That mostly comes from people who buy Transformers to fill a collection or recreate their childhood memories when the actual toy isn't as great as they remember.

Usually though, it dies down when new stuff comes out. Distribution in Burgerville sucks right now, so most posters are cranky. Hopefully that will be fixed in the next few months.
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>>6523560
>Update
>>6523569
>>6523578
>>6523502
You're not fooling anyone. Please stop.
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>>6523582
>Update
Got some PF Changs from down the street. Good stuff.
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>>6523582
Post a time stamped pic written with your dinner
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>>6523581
>Transfags will bitch about everything.
You're saying that as if there is some distinction between transfags and everyone else.
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>>6523593
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>>6522774
Hasbro seems pretty confident that they solved that issue, though who knows.
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>>6522794
>he looks like a ko gundam
This is exactly what I love about Transformers Go. Crazy Japanese mecha designs.
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>>6522774
GPS isn't a condition that anyone can predict will happen unless they know the exact chemical composition of the plastic.
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>>6522805
That Primal is a pretty decent toy.
The only real issues are that its gorilla face looks nothing like a gorilla, and all its beast kibble hangs off its back, making it hideous from behind or the side.
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>>6523477
Unless you only play to use it as a display piece, DO NOT BY THE X2TOYS CW MEGATRON UPGRADE KIT.

The plastic is so thin and fragile it literally destroys itself when being handled.
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>>6523111
Since no one has done it yet
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Live at the dinner event!

http://www.twitter.com/oafe
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>>6523615
Thanks, Sprocket.
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>>6523165
>Arcee lifting up 4 guys
>combining into a big boy with pink underwear
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>>6523619
>Peacemaker
>"And I'll form the gun"
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>>6523204
Agreed.
I'm still waiting for the GI Joe/Transformers toyline.
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>>6523615

This dorky fucking laughing is ruining the videp
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Alright, so here's something I haven't seen discussed:

So it sounds like all the new PotP leaders integrate the smaller deluxe figure into the alt mode...but how are they going to dot his with Optimus Primal?

The only thing I can think of is having the deluxe ape mode be armored up with a kind of Optimal Optimus armor. I dunno though.

Thoughts?
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>>6523449
>MP Fort Max
DO IT TAKARA/HASBRO !!!
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is blu flirting with cullen?
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>>6523664
Doubt it, considering she's a dyke.
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>>6522731
Will this guy be aroung the same height as CW Shiny Silver Megatron? I've been waiting on a nice classic prime that won't cost me $300.
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>>6523667
Nooooo he's too big why would you want a Leader Optimus there's literally no toys he'd look good with he's taller than Grimlock reeeeeeeeeee
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>>6523667
Probably close enough, im willing to bet all that engineering comes at the cost of some height though
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>>6523679
t. armkibblefag
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>>6523645
Primal's basicially going to be a Mega Pretender. Transforming inner robot than goes into a Transforming outer shell.
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>>6523667
Even if he were taller, there are upgrade kits to make CW Megatron taller than MP Optimus. At this point we have no comparison pics to go off of though, so he may size up perfect.
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>>6523195
What are you? Underage or white trash?
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>>6523742
>>6523742
>>6523742
>>6523742

New bread.
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>>6523645
Most likely it'll be very similar to optimus, with the bulk of him being hidden inside the other form.
Another possibility is that he'll essentially turn inside out to make the optimal parts
Like, his chest flips around, his back flips around, and the rest of him slides into optimal parts.

That being said, we saw four fairly different leader molds in tr (seperating bots, cassette holding bots, pmop, and a sixchanger) so there's no guarantee he'll work anything like the others.
He might be small, even for a deluxe, so he can fold up and be completely hidden by the optimal form.
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>>6522889
The figure instantly better
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>>6522889
Out of curiosity, what's it look like with the mask up?
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What's the odds that Takara would release a Burning Convoy repaint of MP Primal?
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