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24 hours until the patrician toyline gets more reveals

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Snarl and Rippersnapper tease
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>Jackknife
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>>6518801
>Snarl

I meant Slag
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>>6518795
>more reveals
I think, for certain, the only things on display are going to be Abominus and the Dinobot combiner. And based on what I know about Hasbro's combiners and the quality of their retail shit in general, and how dumpy everything we've seen from PotP looks already, I'm not too excited. I'm expecting some swirly gray, horrendously posed, mis-transformed travesties with ugly-ass stickers that will require 75 dollars worth of add-ons to even look decent.
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>>6518795
The only thing I really want from Hascon is the bad-ass Grimlock MTG card. And I don't even play MTG. Too bad these suckerss are going to be expensive as fuck to get a hold of.
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>>6518805
>for your hurt butt
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>>6518809
What butt-hurt? I'm going to save a lot of money during PotP.

I hope.
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>>6518805
>the only things on display are going to be Abominus and the Dinobot combiner
I doubt they'll put anything new on display, it's just going to be reveals.
Remember that from Hasbro's point of view, fans should be unaware of the Dinobots and Terrorcons.
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>>6518821
>>6518821
>I doubt they'll put anything new on display, it's just going to be reveals.
Reveals of what? How can you "reveal" something that ISN'T new? What do you think "reveal" means? Why is this fanbase so illiterate?
>Remember that from Hasbro's point of view, fans should be unaware of the Dinobots and Terrorcons.
Except for the fact that Hasbro has been explicitly teasing them for Hascon. >>6518801
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>>6518834
We still don't know what the Sludge, Snarl, Rippersnapper, and Hun-Grr toys and their combined modes look like despite the leaks. So yes there will be reveals. There will be a display too because every convention has had one following the panel.
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>>6518839
I don't think we'll see any combined forms, at least not a full Abominus. That's all wave three stuff and judging by these teaser images they're stopping at wave two.
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>>6518834
>How can you "reveal" something that ISN'T new?
Because Hasbro does not consider unofficial leaks as "reveals".
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>>6518834
>Reveals of what? How can you "reveal" something that ISN'T new? What do you think "reveal" means? Why is this fanbase so illiterate?

We saw low ass quality photos of whats coming, some using old toys or art as placeholders, we haven't seen the toys yet, they will reveal the physical toys, not just the list of characters.
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>>6518834
>How can you "reveal" something that ISN'T new?
>Hasbro has been explicitly teasing them
They still haven't shown us full designs for them, so it is new.
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>>6518834
>How can you "reveal" something that ISN'T new? What do you think "reveal" means? Why is this fanbase so illiterate?
Something that is announced/confirmed and something that is being revealed are two completely different things.
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>>6518808

nerf war is fucking busted
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>>6518805
I think it'll be the opposite. I'm certain that everything from the leak will be revealed, with a couple silhouette teasers like Overlord last year at the least.

Remember, this is the first Hascon. Hasbro is charging a hell of a lot of money for tickets to a first time convention, so they have to ensure people are getting the most bang for their bucks as they can. After the anemic showing at Comic-con this year, I can't see why they'd keep holding back when they need to go all out.
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Are you ready to Monster Mash?
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Lol how is pete doing?
I imagine that butthurt bastard praying that hascon fails. Maybe even the funpubcucks are stroking his ego in a pity party circlejerk.
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>>6518982
Yeah, Computron is waiting.
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>>6518982
Is it the graveyard smash?
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>>6518982
>blot is chris chan
>rippersnapper is a troll who pretends to be blot just to mess with him

What's the /tfg/ canon for the others?
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>>6518992
It did caught on in a flash.
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>>6518801
I WANT GRIMLOCK NOW
I WANT SLASH NOW
I WANT RIPPERSNAPPER NOW
NOW NOW NNOW NOW NOOOOOOWWWW
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>>6519066
Should I just get the PotP Tyrannosaurus, Stegosaurus and Brachiosaurus? I have the AoE Pteranadon, Triceratops, and Spinosaurus and TLK Velociraptor. Didn't like the look of the other guys from those section.
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>>6519087
I don't think the PoTP dinos would look nice beside the Movieverse ones.
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>>6519089
They can bond over being badass lizard-bird guys taken from their native universes to sit on the shelves of a manchild.
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>>6519087
You know the POTP Dinos won't look anything like the movie dinos right?
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>>6519009
I pulled my foreskin back
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Hey /tfg/ will you be displaying your POTP dinobots in botmode or dinomode? they spent most of their showtime in dinomode.


>>6519089
Yeah, they look out of place with the new g1-ish figures, they can blend with the old generations like Lugnut and Springer tho.
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>>6518795
>headmasters are finally gone
>no more forced partsforming
>we can finally get real head sculpts again instead of faces plastered on shitty boxes
>finally get dinobots and can finally get computron's rival
>combiners come with ankle tilts parts now

so... this is what a kino toyline looks like....
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Which of these figures do you recommend me?
>ROTF Dirge but without the missile launchers
>BW B'Boom
>Chaos On Velocitron Optimus
>Prime voyager Starscream
>Mafia Optimus
>deluxe Scorn
>Movie Big Daddy

These three would all go into being customized but I'm so lazy that I've been "working" on a Banzai-Tron for like 3 years by now so whatever. Still help pls.
>BH Dreadwing
>Gen Jhiaxus
>FOC Starscream
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>>6519120
>kino
throw yourself in the trash, please.
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>>6519126
Which of these figures do you recommend me?
>ROTF Dirge but without the missile launchers
ok-ish at best, limited articularion on knees, gorilla arms due to lack of wrist
>BW B'Boom
get him
>Chaos On Velocitron Optimus
better than the retail release, stickers still suck, get him if you are a g2 fan
>Prime voyager Starscream
ok ish, deluxe was the best
>Mafia Optimus
copter punch prime? avoid him.
>deluxe Scorn
better than the voyager
>Movie Big Daddy
get him
These three would all go into being customized but I'm so lazy that I've been "working" on a Banzai-Tron for like 3 years by now so whatever. Still help pls.
>BH Dreadwing
a bit small but decent
>Gen Jhiaxus
shitty deco, the landing gear will get stress marks or break.
>FOC Starscream
pretty decent but expensive for custom fodder, thundercracker goes for less.
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>>6519126
B'Boom
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Poor Sixshot. No one wants him and doomed to be a clearance aisle trash. They Sky Shadow on that was next to him went home with me though. $20 for that shit, I wasn't passing on that.
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>>6519119
You know, I might actually have Grimlock in Bot mode. I've always loved his GM head

As for Slash, he's gonna be in dino mode most of the time. Considering he's pretty tiny the bot mode probably sucks
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>>6519120
>headmasters
>gone

Titan masters are literally the same thing.

Speaking of which I hope the leaders in POTP have base modes for the lil fellas to dick around in like the TR leaders did. Or at least some sort of compatibility like pilot seats
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>>6519160
Fuck me, *prime masters
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>>6519142
Fuck, you burgers have it so good it pisses me off.
I'll have to wait like 3 years before finding Sixshot at 50 dollars and that's if collectors that also sell these things are burdened by it.
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>>6519160
>Titan masters are literally the same thing

no because they don't actively ruin headsculpts and force partsforming
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Stupid question but will Power of the Primes still be able to be headswapped with Titans Masters? I love this stupid bullshit gimmick so much.

Speaking of that what's your favourite headswap?
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>>6519178


It's the exact same gimmick regardless of execution you shit ass.
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>>6519184
Grimlock on anything or Sawback on anything.
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>>6518795
>Dinobots being released alongside Optimus Prime
>Titans Return had a repaint of Mindwipe into Bat Primal and a head to make Megalligator.

If they don't intend to do any other new molds for Beast Wars Figures I hope we at least Beast Wars Megatron out of that Dinobot. I was so sad when this didn't get released.
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>PARTSFORMINGPARTSFORMINGPARTFORMING

I wish I could lock everyone who bitches about headmasters in a room with some old G1 partsformers of a 3P combiner for a day to help teach them what partsforming actually is
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>>6519184
One more picture.

I love how Twinferno with Combobat's head gives him Primal colours.
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>>6519184
>will Power of the Primes still be able to be headswapped with Titans Masters?
Not likely, the new gimmick will use the masters as shields, you can use the prime masters on TR figures as heads tho.

what's your favourite headswap?
Shuffler on Mindwipe.
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>>6519184
>will Power of the Primes still be able to be headswapped with Titans Masters?

No. Thank fuck. What a shitty gimmick.
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>>6519120
>combiners come with ankle tilts parts now

I'm tempted to get some of the potp voyagers I would probably have skipped for the better feet parts to give to my uw dudes.
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>>6519120
>combiners come with ankle tilts parts now

They'll still be a bitch to pose without forward tilts too though
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>>6519135
>>6519137
Thanks, guys.
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>>6519214
Didn't Icky Vicky and Repaintron come with balljointed ankles?
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I hope people are planning on buying the Combiner Wars Liokaiser, they're not making new limbs for Leozack and he's just going to be a torso with a little legends friend like Galvatronus.
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>>6519226
It's just a side to side swivel joint
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>>6519226
>>6519228
Ratchet ankle rockers.
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>>6519120
>he still posts this
>people still respond to this
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>>6519243
>>he still posts this

Probably because it's true.
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>>6519185
But it's not the same gimmick because it doesn't interfere with the main toy.
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>>6519255
Headmasters didn't interfere with any TR toy. They're all designed to accommodate the headmaster gimmick and they all did it well
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>>6519257
>and they all did it well
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>>6519262
Galvatron is probably the best case against my statement but I'd argue that it's not the fault of the headmaster that they designed a mask in the most retarded way possible on Galvatron. Every other voyager and leader has a similar feature to that mask and they all worked fine.
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>>6519270
>they all worked fine
>even fucking takara thinks those neck braces were retarded
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>>6519273
Even if you don't like them you could leave them down on the voyagers without really losing out on anything aesthetically. Galvatron is the only one where the mask actually fucks up the toy with no workaround.
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Would anyone be down for a MPM Megs but it's just the cab from Dotm?
That way it'd be kinda in scale with Prime in truck mode.
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>>6519280
>without really losing out on anything aesthetically

except for them having tiny heads because the shit forced gimmick. Overlord's helmet also looks fucking terrible.
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>>6519281
Looks like it belongs in Twisted Metal.
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>>6519257
>they all did it well
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>>6519284
he looks like a jojo character
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>>6519284
For they voyagers they head size is pretty much fine and I've never seen anyone complain about any of the leader helmets till now
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>>6519119
>implying people display things not in robot mode
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>Selling Transformers on local online classifieds, someone answers
>I tell them I'm unavailable today and tomorrow, but after that is fine, and ask them what time would be good for them so we can meet up
>Their response: "Today would be the best but Saturday is fine.."
WHAT

TIME

MOTHER

FUCKER
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>>6518808
Does anyone else think Grimlock should have been Black/Red/Green instead of Red/Green/White?
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>>6519301
Nothing about Grimlock is black.
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>>6519298
God I know that feel, it's like most transformer fans can't grow a pair and make solid decisions.
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>>6519285
It's a scary looking truck.
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>>6519301
Toon Grimlock is straight red.
Marvel Grimlock strikes me as black/red then red/white in the Earthfoce era.
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>>6519301
No, why? He has no Black in him. Green because he's wild, Red because he's impulsive, White because he has honour (obviously oversimplifying all of these), but I can't see why he'd be Black. I think his colour combo is pretty perfect for him.
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>>6519304
>>6519311
Did you guys forget the time he wanted to execute Blaster for pledging fealty?
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>>6519315
That is absolutely white
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>>6519318
That isn't and you'd know that if you knew anything about Magic.
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>>6519320
>Authority, control, and having consequences for going against your word isn't white
sure buddy
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>>6519326
>Authority
White

>control
Black

>consequences for going against your word
Black
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>>6519340
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>>6519286
You could pop off the Titan master arms.
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>>6519298
>>6519305
An update:
"What time on Saturday is best for you?"
>"What works best for you. Afternoon is best for me"
Fucking hell m8, if you're going to say afternoon just fucking pick a specific time. I yielded the time to you since I picked the location. I guess I have to do EVERYTHING. Why is this always like pulling teeth?
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>>6519352
Or better yet leave it the way it is since it's fine
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>>6519364
>gigantic arms that create an unaesthetic blockhead
>"it's fine"
Why are you guys always such cucks.
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>>6519362
Just tell him you need a specific time.
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>>6519304
>Nothing about Grimlock is black.
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>>6519374
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>>6519262
You know, it's fairly obvious that the face dimensions were made for the original mask, since the new mask doesn't quite snap all the way up.
We'll probably never get the reason for the mask change, but it was clearly done REALLY late into the game, considering we got renders and prototypes with it.
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>>6519370
>I guess I have to do EVERYTHING.
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>fans bitch and complain when Hasbro forces Headmaster gimmick on non-Headmaster characters but are OK when Hasbro forces a combiner gimmick on a non-combining group
>Pic related

Jesus Christ.

No wonder all the other fandoms look down on us.
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>>6519374
>>6519377
Physical colour has nothing to do with magic colour.
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>>6519381
A fandom is not a hivemind and people have different opinions about different gimmicks.

Get the fuck over yourself.
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>>6519381
Because they're still good toys despite the gimmick. Especially since they're using actual alt mode parts for the chests and translucent windows this time instead of faux parts. You can ignore the combiner feature completely, unlike headmasters where you have to use it every single time you transform the toy.

I didn't even notice Jazz had a combiner peg at first.
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>>6519381
Quadchanging deluxes with cookie cuter engineering and transformations are perfectly fine AS LONG AS THE HEAD DOESN'T COME OFF
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>>6519142
where IS this?
I don't recognize the label at all
Canada?
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>>6519388
It'd rather have solid windows than translucent ones. You see less robot in vehicle mode and you don't have to work around the translucent plastic with extra parts and paint that might not match/get scratched.
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>>6519388
>unlike headmasters where you have to use it every single time you transform the toy.
But I like that
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>>6519391
Walmart.
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>>6519394
>But I like that

I sure as fuck don't. Nor do I like the cube heads they're forced to have.
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>>6519398
Ok.
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>>6519395
? I've never seen a label like that.
What state are you in?
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>>6519422
That's what Walmart's Clearance aisle signs and labels look like.
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>>6519424
At my walmart clearance stickers are all yellow
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>>6519398
I'm sorry you have to live in a world where not everything is catered to your specific tastes, and people are able to find enjoyment in things that you do not.

Surely if you declare your distaste for these things enough, people will realize how wrong they were for liking them, and the faceless corporation whose products cause you such distress will see the error of their ways, and only produce only what you personally approve of from now.
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>>6519394
I'm sorry you have to live in a world where not everything is catered to your specific tastes, and people are able to find distaste in things that you do not.

Surely if you declare your enjoyment for these things enough, people will realize how wrong they were for disliking them, and the faceless corporation whose products cause you such pleasure will see the error of their ways, and only produce only what you personally approve of from now.
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Another leak. POTP Optimus's cab which presumably turns into Orion Pax.
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>>6519440
are you having a stroke
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>>6519442
actually might not be POTP, might be some cyberverse shit. The proportions don't match the other leak.
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>>6519442
Why can't Warden make a truck cab that doesn't look like shit?
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>>6519439
are you having a stroke
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>>6519449
That would require effort.
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>>6519445
>>6519451
are (You) having a stroke
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>>6519453
(are (You) having a stroke?)
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>>6519296
>For they voyagers they head size is pretty much fine

That's because TF fans have gotten used to tiny heads the size of the character's hand.
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>>6519445
are you asshurt over a factual statement of a few sentences?
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What the hell is wrong with this fandom?
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>>6519442
>>6519448
Yeah, it's this one
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>>6519474
They're for children anon.
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>>6519439
>>6519440
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>>6519474
Do you even have to ask at this point?
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>>6519388
I still don't understand this fucking obsession with transparent windows.

Solid windows look a little ugly but reduce parts count which then can go to making parts that are actually important rather than making the back out of twenty fucking pieces just to accomodate the transparent plastic and don't risk using shitty plastic that will start to crack after one transformation.
Transparent windows are a nice bonus but all they actually do is let you watch at robot kibble.

This is not even a contest.
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>>6519487
ITS FUCKING CHILDREN PAJAMAS, WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ACTION FIGURES?
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>>6519298
Not that bad. I get this half the time I try to sell something here.
>Get message asking if it's still for sale
>"Yes, do you want to have it sent or pick it up?"
>They don't reply

>>6519381
The combining gimmick is ignorable though.
Also, it's been implied that they were always able to combine but choose not to since the combiner is uncontrolable.
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>>6519488
>I still don't understand this fucking obsession with transparent windows.

It looks better and makes the toy look less cheap.

Almost every CHUG toy from 2006-2011 has translucent windows and they're far better than most of the CW shit where they started painting over the windows.

>start to crack
ham hands alert
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>>6519491
>try to sell something here
And by "here" I mean in my country, not on the board.
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>>6519492
>dat fingerprint
Jesus, I swear this thing gets uglier the more I look at it.
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Anyone knows what is thing supposed to be?
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>Warden: Trust me we have a lot of surprises for Power of the Primes and the next upcoming generations line. Tell me when Titans Return began did you think that by the end that we would have all 4 transformer clones, Overlord, Sky Shadow, Quickswitch, Sixshot, Powermaster Prime, or even Misfire and Slugslinger? We're upping our game. We are aware of the images that have already been leaked but those do not encompass the entire line we have much much more instore for Power of the Primes than we did with Titans Return or even Combiner Wars. Third time is definitely the charm.
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>>6519506

its the weapon from 2007's Movie Line Final Battle Jazz, sans the kinda radar dish part
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>>6519506
That's from one of the 2007 deluxe Jazzes. It clips onto his spoiler.
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>>6519510
It really is too bad the budget is so crap because Warden and company really seem so much more focussed and enthusiastic about Classics than any other past team.
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>>6519512
>>6519513
tanks
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>>6519510
post a source
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>>6518492
>hand
>foot
>armour
>gun
Introducing the hfag
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>>6519521
Yeah so focused and enthusiastic which is why instead of giving us literally anything else they made the dogshit auotobot car combiner wave
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>>6519510
Translation: he thinks we're going to be surprised when they reveal PotP is CW compatible
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>people are actually expecting an exciting full-on reveal of everything that's coming soon in Power of the Primes
>implying they aren't just going to show a minority of the figures that were already leaked and throw in the "Stay Tuned" meme
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>>6519644
they'll show all of wave 1 and 2 plus starscream and grimlock's combined modes at the very least.
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>>6519521
>Archer has so much budget every toy has lights and sounds and a million moving parts and literal spring loaded gimmicks out the ass
>leaves
>Warden left with a budget of ten bucks and a piece of string
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>>6519655
>starscream and grimlock's combined modes
Starscream and Grimlock combine together?!?
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>>6519669
no but they both have torso modes
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>>6519510
No source, no fucks given.
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>>6519521
Sad but true. Either it's the budget or they're just enthusiastic but incredibly incompetent. Possibly both.
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WHEN THE FUCK

ARE THEY GOING TO STOP WITH THE BLOCKY GEN 1 BULLSHIT

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS
LINE AFTER LINE NOTHING BUT BLOCKY GARBAGE WITH BLOCKY ALT MODES
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>>6519760
BUT I LOVE BLOCKY ROBOTS
IF YOU WANT NOT BLOCKY ONE THEN GO SUCK MORE BAYVERSE DICK
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>>6519760
You've had Bayformers, Prime, and RID.
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>>6519760
>Blocky alt modes
>Scourge, windblade, skyshadow, alpha trion, octone, hotrod, wheelie
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>>6519820
Not him but most of those were heavily hampered in terms of design by having to be blocky, especially Scourge and Windblabe. Pic very much related, just look at those absurdly THICC legs.
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>>6519826
I'll take the thick legs if it means she can actually fucking stand up straight on them. Being able to kneel and pose on them is just bonus points.
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>>6519760
Slender, sharp designs are what's always turned me off of Bayformers or the Animated or Prime transformers. Like, it just never looks right to me in their source medium, let alone in the toys.

What I like about the blocky G1 types is that they frequently have a very clear 1:1 relationship with their alt mode. Maybe it looks silly sometimes but you can clearly distinguish what they turn into from their robot form. I really like that.
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>>6519826
Windblade, Swoleblade, and Nonoseblade
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>>6519760
Block robots are the future now, I'm afraid. We will never see a sleek CHUG design again.
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>>6519760
I just want cool beast modes back like Skybyte, Reptilion, Etc etc

Never ever I suppose..
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>>6519846
Just collect the Beast Wars guys and then the Cybertron jungle planet guys then.
If you are not happy with those then I don't know what else would you want; that's quite the amount of toys.
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Will there ever be a new line with original characters again or did people really hate Rook, Offroad and Alpha Bravo THAT much?
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Since we're less than 12 hours away from the reveal, here's my crazy prediction
Hungrr is a reverse retool of grimlock, like hotspot/onslaught and scourge/highbrow
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>>6519001
Besides Blot, only Cutthroat had a proper shown off expanded bio from the original era. The tech specs for others are:

Hun-Gurrr:
>"Eat only what you need -- destroy the rest."
>He has two mouths to feed -- his own -- and spends most of his time doing it. Since his mouth is usually full, his orders are usually misinterpreted. Prefers eating non-living to living things... doesn't like anything that might still be wriggling about after he swallows it. Can refashion digested materials and spit them out as crude missiles. Has powerful sonic stun gun in robot Mode. Combines with fellow Terrorcons to form Abominus.

Sinnertwin:
>"The sound of ripping metal is music to my audio modules."
>Prowls the perimiter of the Terrorcons' lair looking for trouble -- and hoping to find it! Then he can show off his razor-sharp teeth, piercing pronghorns, and steel-shredding claws. Has flame cannon and flame breath in creature Mode, armor-piercing rocket-grenade launcher in robot Mode. Combines with fellow Terrorcons to form Abominus. Unnerved by small creatures like mice, insects, and mini-droids.

Rippersnapper:
>"Autobots are an error I intend to correct."
>Any organic creature whose status on the evolutionary scale ranks higher than a slime mold, particularly Autobots, sends him into a ferocoius frenzy. Hates the smell of carbon-based life forms. In creature Mode, claws and teeth can slice through almost any substance. Has twin, ground-to-air, voice-guided missile launchers. In robot Mode, has cyclone gun. Combines with fellow Terrorcons to form Abominus.

Abominus itself had no tech spec information of any kind in America. His stats given on his Japanese tech spec would give him the standard high strength and endurance of a gestalt, but an uncontested and rock stupid 1 for Intelligence- a stat that only has been given to one other Transformer in 30 years of the franchise: Movie Swindle.
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>>6519861
People loved off road
And tr had a couple original titan masters that were inspired by others, like ptero
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>>6519862
I'm betting that most retools in the PotP line will be """"""retools"""""", with only certain parts carriied onto an otherwise brand new mold, such as Alpha Trion's leg and skeleton parts being carried over to Broadside and Tidal Wave.

That said, I don't think it'll be Grimlock to Hun-Grrr. I think it'll be Grimlock to something else, and Hun-Grrr to Snaptrap.
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>>6519861
I think the problem was that they were getting in the way of people completing their stupid nostalgia teams and that none of them got any decent promotion in any media.
Armada originals have their following, just like Animated and Beast Wars and even Car Robots. Even I was disappointed with Offroad's shittiness, what with being introduced as a character so shady and untrustworthy that even the fucking stunticons didn't wanted him despite being as violent like them and then he just gets killed like a bitch; I would've been disappointed with Alpha Bravo but I got exactly what I expected of him, a wimpy faggot too scared of the fans to stand near the aerialbots.
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>>6519430
They didn't use a clearance label, they just used the old universal labels and printed the current format on it.
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>>6519859
Those molds are 10-20 years old, as much as I love vintage Beasties it's fair to say a lot of them are not exactly aged to the standards of modern figures. Some still look great but the vast majority have that early 90s skinny shellformer look to them that really isn't entirely compatible with modern CHUG.

Point and case being, we do need some cool new Beastformers.
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>>6519887
>tfw the munky mode of the new Primal will probably be some cyborg shit like pic related
>tfw we'll never TFs that turn into actual beasts again
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>>6519887
Eh, maybe. I just hope that if they go for it they update the correct characters.
I wouldn't mind a cheap ass retool of Rattrap into Razorbeast at all. Updating Sky Byte was the worst mistake in the entire history of the Generations line.
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How do I steal prototypes from Hasbro factories, like the Chinks do on Ebay? Any good tips for a quick and discrete "get in, get the stuff and get out" sort of job?
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>>6519904
Get into their side of the industry and pay the slaves stealing the prototypes the equivalent of a couple of years in wages?
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>>6519907
Holy fuck, that's actually pretty genius, I was thinking about a literal disguised heist but that is totally doable from a distance. What are some Chinese factories where Hasbro makes their stuff so I can look for workers on Facebook? What's the safest payment method and where should I get the mail to deliver the stuff since it could probably be sort of risky to directly have it on my doorstep?
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>>6519911
The factories are in Vietnam now. Since the quality has basically gone freefall into oblivion, I'd imagine the security is also not gonna be much. They don't even have a QC department anymore, you think they'd have guards on the payroll?
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>>6519510
>Tell me when Titans Return began did you think that by the end that we would have all 4 transformer clones, Overlord, Sky Shadow, Quickswitch, Sixshot, Powermaster Prime, or even Misfire and Slugslinger?
No because I expected you'd do the rest of the fucking headmasters you faggot
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>>6519914
Aaaaweeee shhhhiiiiit, that sounds great, I've already chatted up some Vietnamese girls on Facebook to send me nudes with a decent success rate, maybe I can do so with Transformer prototypes? This is starting to unrionically sound like a new and exciting business venture!
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>>6519896
He was just done because he was the only one-off RiD figure they could do for T30, that's all. And he's not even the worst thing by Warden in that line considering he was responsible for Whirl and that absolute mess of a Roadbuster
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>>6519911
>What are some Chinese factories where Hasbro makes their stuff so I can look for workers on Facebook?
Fuck if I know man I am like just a NEET.


>>6519917
Fuck, that's kind of funny because we didn't get Quickswitch or the clones since Quickswitch is a half-assed piece of shit and the clones are locked behind TWO 100 dollars pay wall.
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>>6519381
Combiner plugs and ports aren't nearly as intrusive as 66% of a robot's head being a square robot block that needs to be ripped off for vehicle mode.

>>6519491
>Also, it's been implied
No it fucking hasn't. Get out of here with your Beast fanwank.
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>>6519941
Unless it's not in the budget to include enough joints to both properly transform and turn into a combiner part so they decide to instead not bother with the transformation and just put the entire alt mode on their back so you just tuck away their limbs and flip them over
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>>6519944
That's what they look like.
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>>6519952
starscream, dummy
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>>6519911
You know they are made in Vietnam now not China right?
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>>6518795
Thoughts?
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>>6519969
Eww.
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>Hasbro will probably only show Wave 1 and 2 from the leak at the convention
>we'll only see two out of five Terrorcons
>no Blot
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>>6519976
How inevitable is it that most Terrorcons are just gonna be Dinobot repaints / remolds?
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>>6519982
>Swoop as Cutthroat
>Sludge as Sinnetwin
>Slag as Rippersnapper
>Snarl as Blot
Who wants to bet at least two of these are going to happen?
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>>6519982
Cutthroat will be a Swoop retool for sure. The others I think might be new molds and pretools for most of the Piranacons.
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>>6519969
Suffers the same back-kibble-mounted-on-arms problem as Nautica, but overall comes out much better than her. Also hey, Headmaster Arcee/Daniel after 3 decades.
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>LG Windblade and Decepticon clones in the background
>nah let's instead take a picture of movie shit everyone's already seen

Fucking Bayformerfags.
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>>6520005
>caring about any iteration of windblade to any degree whatsoever
Bless their souls.
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>>6520007
Agreed.
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>>6519169
Is scalpers and that kind of market bad there? I know that is the trade of with Japan is that while cost is dicey you can buy way late locally without assholes trying to scalp the market because their culture actually refuses to buy shit like that.
>>6519422
Not anon but I'm PA and that is the what Walmart marks for non discontinued merc where they are either getting rid of the spot on shelves or simply need to move stock quicker for quarterly reports. Best clearance times in the US are now and post Christmas because a lot of newer shit can and will be mark down to keep unit sales up.
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>>6520007
I wanna see how kawaii her face is!
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>>6519887

Beast wars is the greatest line. Nothing produced today could compare to the 90s beast wars toys.
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>>6520007

I like Windblade.
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>>6520035
Of course you do, Windblade and Vicky and Optimus Primal are fans choice characters ;)
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>>6519380
Maybe if you did that instead of bitching you'd actually get somewhere.
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>>6518795
Any theories on what this G2 Megatron will entail? A Titans Return recolour?

What do people think of TR Megs, anyway? I hate the colour (so a G2 version would be right up my alley), but is it a good toy?
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>>6519969
Honestly, I like it better than the Generations version from a few years back with the major backpack kibble, but I prefer Arcee as a motorcycle. It just lends itself better to a feminine frame than a big bulky car.
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>>6520030
I mean they were good for their time. But I wouldn't mind getting a revamp of the line. Definitely a lot of things they could improve on.
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>>6520056
The Japanese line had some hidden gems, and honestly I love a lot of the Fuzors, but for the most part I agree.

What I wouldn't give for a modern Tarantulus.
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>>6519603
Repaint stake no resources and make the higher ups happy by raising the profits for an engineering job. They didn't give us the Autobot wave in lieu of the Predacons or Terrorcons or anything
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>>6520059
It's likely that we'll get an MP Tarantulas one day. If enough people ask for it.
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>>6520046
A repaint of TR Megatron in purple and blue. If they are packing in an extra accessory it may be another Optimus head for an obvious Reverse Convoy homage.

The TR versions of the mold looks good in all 3 modes but both have qc issues.
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>>6520061
I'm one of those rare wierdos who doesn't like too much cartoon accuracy, so MP isn't my cup of tea,

I prefer modern re-imaginings of the characters, like Generations/Titans Return.

But I know I'm crazy.
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>>6520064
>Reverse Convoy homage
Shut up and take my shanix.
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>>6520065
What about Generations Cheetor? You couldn't like that better than the MP.
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>Hascon this week
>Providence, RI

Why there?
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>>6519969
Awful lot of pomp and circumstance for a half-assed redeco.
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>>6520082
Headquarters are there.
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>>6519126
BW B'Boom for sure.
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>>6520069
I don't really care for either.

I'd rather a Transmetal or Transmetal 2-inspired Cheetor.
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>>6520030
I feel as though Beast Wars and the cyber missions- reveal the shield were absolute high points for me. Animated as well but I think everything on the cartoon end made that work smoothly.
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>>6519969
Nautica wore it better.
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>>6520082
Uh.. maybe because that's where Hasbro is fucking based out of.
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>>6520103
We got Generations versions of Lugnut and Lockdown from that line. New molds. That wouldn't happen today, you'd never see that for Strongarm or Steeljaw.
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>>6520113
>tfw Power of the Primes Bisk never
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>>6520113
>>6520116

It hurts really.

RID's cartoon had quite a few original characters i came to love.

I want my Classics Thunderhoof dammit.
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>>6520133
Well, in 30 years they'll get Generations toys at least.

Oh, who am I kidding. It's gonna be G1 forever.
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>>6520046

It's TR voyager Megatron in Hero colors.
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>>6520143
Would've preferred the green camo print, but that still gets me pretty hard.
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>>6519894
Good.
Earth Wars Primal is the only good version of that design anyway.
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>>6520005
>>6520143
>only these tiny leaks
>nothing of the actual new shit

What the fuck are people doing?

Well here, have a revenge version leader rotf prime and shadow spark tlk prime, I coulda sworn I saw a headshot of tlk shadow spark that looked amazing but what I see here looks meh
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>>6520046
Wait, what? Where does it say we're getting a G2 Megatron?
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>>6520166
BigBadToyStore has preorders up.

It's a Takara recolour/remold of... something. No pics yet.
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>>6520166
Listing from lopoplaza megastore on facebook, they always post their listings as soon as they get info, then everyone else throws up pre-orders verifying info like >>6520168 (btw there is one image but its a tease, see >>6520143 top right corner)

But images usually come much later, anyway its as I predicted, from the shitty image its using the TR megatron mold in the purple hero camo, well I hope its got the camo on it or its fucking dropped
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>>6520155
It's from some closed-door preview fair for Christmas Toys.
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>>6520171
And the first things we see are redecos of shit we've had already including that thing.

(I wanted it but no knees...I expected more from takara tomy, I wanted a transforming combining train bot but no knees and dat cost, no thanks)
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>>6520171
>Get on the fucking train, Shinji
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On a related note, I'm trying to get into G2, is Megatron a good place to start with? Also, what G2 Prime should I get first, Laser or Hero? I know the Laser is an engineering classic and he's also surprisingly cheap on Ebay but there's something about the Hero that rubs my aesthetic boner so much.
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>>6519914
unoe, I remember seeing the logo of one of the vietnamese factories printed on Baldigus' shipping box.
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>>6520176
Hero is roughly deluxe sized. I don't own him myself but I hear he's OK, though not as good as the Laser figure.
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>>6520176
He's a literal brick but he looks just amazing as is,I reckon so with megs.

What do you like more, aesthetics or engineering, same question posted to mp megatron collectors, otherwise get both.

I'm partial to laser prime, he's bigger and more in general
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>>6519921
>comparing cheap girls who might actually be trannies with guys who work for minimum wage for an evil corporation because they have no choice

I believe in equality anon but no, just no
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>>6520176
Get the 3P Laser prime from Fans Hobby. They've already teased a G2 Megatron and if it's as good as their Prime it'll be perfect.
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>>6520191
He looks great from the front of robot mode and the vehicle as a whole but his transformation is kinda fiddly, almost leader class in complexity (as in the modern kind) and the back of the figure is bulky because of a lack of truck cab integration (would be nice if that compressed into the body more).

Still he poses well and looks the part, I'm waiting for a cheapo someone doesn't want anymore
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>>6520193
Are we talking about the same figure? His transformation is super-simple...
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>>6520195
Like I said, leader class, if that isn't clear I'll dumb it down.

CW megatron is on the same page, and for some that is a turn off, I could care less about shit like mp36 and mpm04 but I'd like some meat to my transformations
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>legends g2 megatron could come with a spare optimus head to dual homage reverse convoy
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>>6518805
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>>6518811

How's that ceiling smell?
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>>6519120
>>headmasters are finally gone
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>>6520200
>>6520202
>>6520203
>>6520205

Hi, A.
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>>6519178

Titanmasters were fun you goddamn retard.
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>>6519207
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>>6520197
So you want a more complex transformation, buy FH Gunfighter, which is simple as fuck, was too "fiddly"? I'm only confused because that's contradicting yourself.
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Who's ready for Hascon reveals to be undercut by Irma destroying your home!?!
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>>6519120
>forced combiner limbs are finally gone
>new toyline that implements nostalgic gimmick in a way that gets you some other unreleased CHUG molds.
>Headmaster gimmick will be perfect if they do Fort Max and the headmaster jrs, and skullcruncher is already confirmed which is even accurate to the headmasters anime
>headmasters are back and they even have little vehicles now
>1987 decepticon headmaster trio
>titan class Fort Max
>PHASE SIXERS
>Trypticon
>all the original triple changers
>Finally a new CHUG hot rod
this is the true kino toyline. combiner wars fags can get fucked.
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>>6520220
I'm in Washington, so all we gotta worry about is the smoke covering the entire sky
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>>6520214
I wish I had an eye rolling macro to use but I'll just explain in proper since you cannot comprehend.

I find gunfighter's transformation a tad too easy and would compare him with current day leader class figures which are at a deluxe level in complexity transformation wise, would rather something a tad more complicated but no need to show off to the extreme like some mp figures have done.

If you still cannot comprehend that I'll cry blood
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>>6519985
The dinobots could already share molds.
>remove slag head put Sludge long neck.
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>>6520016
She's kinda cute.
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>>6520237
Judging from this and>>6520005 the one stand out deco change is her turbines getting painted a different color.

They can't improve the face much more...could they?
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Jazz has new copper accents
Boncrusher gets silver paint and plastic
Megs gets his space herpes
Hound gets his AoE guns
Kinda underwhelmed. Maybe Hound if he gets a new paint deco instead of just a straight rerelease with added guns.
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>>6520250
And Lockdown gets his mask. Is that still the same deluxe toy?
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>>6520250
>it wasn't DOTM Megatron
Fucking nips.
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>>6520253
I thought Lockdowns mask was just on the back of his head. Never had the toy.
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>>6520250
Finally a bigger image of that thing.

>better looking jazz
Is that silver plastic he's sporting or paint?
>bonecrusher
I got mixed up thinking he was devastator/brawl, all meh to me
>megatron
Better attempt of the dry brushing than the current tlk version, am buying
>hound
If not for that stupid red cross shit he would of looked more complete, think I'll stick to my hasbro version
>lockdown
New head, better paint job, should I replace my hasbro deluxe I got for 30% off rrp, dunno
>dat prime
I already got mb11, don't need an accessory change
>bumblebee
Changes where?
>prime
Looks more metallic but what can he do other than being a darker version of the takara tlk version (admittedly I'd of gotten this over my current, no matter)
>jetfire
Deco is nice buit do I need another jetfire?

Overall they're shilling the WRONG figures, could of waited until next year for tlk repaints, another rotf leader prime with different accessories and I assume the alt chest isn't appealing

>>6520253
>>6520253
The MB line is redeco:the premium line so its the same toy

>>6520265
Couldn't remember mine so I found this, its kinda close but that's just light piping than an intentional alt head
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>potp jazz

He's gonna get retooled hard isn't he?
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>>6520250
What a bummer indeed, though I'll have to admit the badass painting on that Leader Prime looks awfully tempting. Is that shit mold worth getting for the sake of a really solid paintjob?
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>>6520269
Yeah, my bet is on the leg components of Road Caesar
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>>6520269
At least one of the fembots probably
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>>6520269
Are these pics from Hascon already? Also, for fuck's sake, I really want to love that Jazz but the upper robot just looks so bland.
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>>6520269
If only they'd saved the Datsun bros until now, Prowl could have had an actual hood chest.
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>>6520269
That mold would be great for any of the Datsunbots but since we already got Prowl and Smokescreen in CW I wouldn't hold my breath for them. Maybe Silverstreak?
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>>6520250
>No Brawl

meh
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>>6520275
I mean, he's practically got the Le Mans Porsche alt-mode of Crasher / Fracture, so I can totally see it happening.
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>>6520269
>Still has the side panel showing who he combines with

FUCK when does the show start!?!
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>>6520206

who?
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>>6520237

I wish her titan master head fit better in her neck.

only thing keep me from her being a 10/10 in my books.
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>>6520269
I want to see the retail deco, please.

I do not trust Hasbro to not release a horribly off-white toy
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>>6520273
>shit mold
While subjective each of the leader movie primes has a distinctive charm to them, the first while nothing like the cg model was just a nice chunky toy that was great to work with, kids and adults alike.

The rotf version and retools (such as the mb11 and this new one) had what many considered masterpiece qualities to them including looks and transformation complexity, its also because of this mold people called for designers to dumb down transformations because they were too complex, I personally found it acceptable as I transformed him blind though being an mp collector he wasn't a big deal at all, before the mpm04 came he was the best movie prime, and that has people divided due to the cost cutting involved in its deco.

And we all know about the newer age of extinction prime based molds being simplified shellformers, only a static action igure could capture that design accurately

So, I was guessing you may have gotten it confused with the original movie prime (which had rubber tires, not even the m,pm04 has that) its not a bad mold by any means, I would however be cautious.

Compare mb11/one of the asia leader premium redeco's (those have chrome, actual plated chrome) to the mpm04 (specifically the takara version, just need to wait a few more days) and decide, I love the proportions of the mpm04 the deco on my mb11 is beating the hasbro mpm04 and maybe the takara release.

TLDR not a bad mold just old, but compare it with the mpm04, as either (or both if you're like me) are worth consideration
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>>6520250
>TLK Leader Megs
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>>6520290
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>>6520277
Only one right now, the guy's instagram only has that white marvel legends deadpool as his next pic.

Damnit he said he's a seeker fan but no pics of starscream, fuck I wanted to see how shit it's stickers are
>>6520278
Agreed, they got impatient
>>6520283
NANI WHERE?!
>>6520287
Same, but I can't imagine it being too bad, hasbro has used white before, remember alpha bravo?
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>>6520237

The thing I don't like is her facile transformation. Come on, guys, it's 2017 and Terradive existed.
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>>6520143
>Its the purple deco
Called it
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>>6520291

What is wrong with it?
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Just set up my collection after almost two months of having it stored away in boxes. Did I do okay, /tfg/? I'm using Billy shelves and will also get Morliden glass doors and LED lights, by the way.

1/3
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>>6519142
I have literally never seen one anywhere on the shelf in the Portland area.

Hell, the only TR leaders I've seen anywhere have been PMOP and Blaster/Soundwave
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I want an MP Prowl. Is he still available on any site or is ebay the only for finding one? He's like the only MP I can't find anywhere
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>>6520301
This, on top of a lazy transformation, oversized cannon, hollow arms, and rubber.
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>>6520302
Also, sorry for the shitty pics, my camera has a terrible dynamic range and therefore I had to adjust the exposure a lot in post.

2/3
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>>6520301
>inaccurate cannon
>transformation is less integrated than the voyager
>flame effects have no real storage
>while he has more articulation than the voyager without the use of the wrist swivel he has curling arms, and by doing so you're stuck with the hollows of his arms facing towards you
>rubber sideskirts

Not perfect, only good if you like 'em big

>>6520305
tried bbts, otherwise madarake, he'll be second hand and the more you pay the better condition he'll be, I could a chipped bumper smokescreen for 4,500yen and from there I got all datsuns
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>>6520307
3/3, I've also added a couple more pictures in Imgur if anyone's interested:

http://imgur.com/a/fI6aV
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>>6520301
That goddamn pin head, badass faceplate transformation aside. Also, the Voyager mold's proportions and engineering were just that much better compared to the Leader.
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>>6520302
>>6520307
>>6520309
I like your collection and I suppose the shelves are ok, I personally prefer not to be forever dusting my figures.

Your collection reminds me of what another anon once said, we tf collectors tend to be hoarders and just pile up so much we end up displaying them just straight upright rather than anything dynamic.

My mp's will end up much the same as what you have
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>>6520302
It's a clusterfuck, but as far as clusterfucks go it's pretty nice. TFs come in so many sizes and colors having more than a few displayed is always going to look a bit messy. So good job.
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So we had a few images leaked from a show only toy event with nothing new and so far only one known image from an attendee from hascon?

Are people hoarding the new stuff or does no one care about transformers figures?
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>>6520324
I'd say hold my beer but I don't drink

>potp rodimus prime
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>>6520327
>potp starscream
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>>6520328
>dreadwind

Waiting for something bigger, come on give up da king
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>>6520330
>showing off older prototypes

For what purpose?
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>>6520330
I really dig that, probably gonna get it
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>>6520332
I see a mb release with color sirens
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>>6520334
They posed that proto-mpm03 like he's laughing on his knees.
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>>6520328
are those fucking stickers still? disgusting

>>6520327
That shade of red actually looks pretty nice, hopefully they keep that.

>>6520330
Good enough for someguy and somedude from some japanese cartoon
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>>6520336
Wonder if crosshairs will get a mb release?
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>>6520339
I see a proto fort max below that mpm04
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>>6520332
I like seeing grey protos. Sometimes I wish I could buy two for display purposes.

Like release them in a box with designer noteS and shit, I'd be all over that.
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Is MP Starsaber's shoulder articulation any good? It doesn't seem too bad but still looks gimped in the same way as MP Ultra Magnus
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>>6520309

is that a Red Armada Thrust?
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>>6520342
That would be fucking awesome, I agree.
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>>6520341
There are heaps more but seeing some of the rid stuff is kinda odd so gonna stop here.

Wonder why metro is here after all this time

>>6520342
There used to be a pawn shop in my state that had some prototypes for sale, I just wish I got there first.

I wonder what people do with most proto's, keep them around, secretly sell them on ebay or do people steal them all?
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>>6520346
Gonna move onto these weird ass colored prototypes.

Is this meant to be...
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>>6520346
>Wonder why metro is here after all this time

Corresponds with Rumours of a Platinum Edition Metroplex.
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>>6520348
>movie Soundwave redone as Blaster

Fucking gimme
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>>6520346
Is that Metro smaller?
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>>6520343
Have some shoulder articulation pics I took a long ways back
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>>6520348

I really wish i could get that Soundblaster repaint from that mold.
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>>6520348
Blaster?

Or is the head lacking definition?

>>6520349
No evidence other than anon talking stuff up?

We have the takara legends ex release though so...maybe a lucky guess?

>>6520351
Sorta looks it, maybe the legs have been shunted in a bit
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>>6520357
This I don't get

>>6520355
Might be one on mandarake?
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>>6520353
>>6520354
That looks acceptable enough I think

It's a real shame how bad MP Ultra Magnu's shoulder's were, there might as well have no been any outward movement
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>>6520359
Did we get this already?
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>>6520357
That's totally a blaster head
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>>6520363
?
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>>6520312
>>6520314
Thanks guys! Yeah, doing a balanced clusterfuck was pretty hard, I even had to leave a substantial amount of figures out of it. And hopefully the acrylic doors will help on the dust side of things.

>>6520344
Yer goddamn right it is, and he's glorious. Easily my favorite version of this mold.
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>>6520365
didn't we have this?
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>>6520368
In translucent, and a new deco with crazy moon runes, not solid with actual G2 deco.
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>>6519836
This is exactly what I love about transformers. You can see the grill of a car on a robot and your (or at least my) brain just wants to see how it all folds together into a car. It's also just cool to see parts repurposed. The engineering and how everything is gonna satisfyingly nest together is evident in the robot
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>>6520357
So are these things that are maybe coming out? Because I want this badly.
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>>6520359
>>6520365
>>6520368
>>6520363
Get some fucking glasses if you can't spot the differences.
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>>6520376
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>>6520368
IS THAT A FUCKIN JOJO PLANE?
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>>6520365
Those Scraplets look pretty neat.
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>>6520368
>>6520380
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>>6520380
>>6520384
Fuck off with your cancer series please
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>>6520231
That's fine and good and I get that, but why did you call Gunfighter "fiddly"? Unless you meant something else...
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Seems to be slow, must only be a few displays

>>6520376
I don't have any of the molds anon, and in soundwave's case and the starscream wasn't sure if the altered deco was some color test and left out details in the process.

And god damn how many bumblebee's out there, I consider myself above the norn in collecting but do I need a photographic memory of them all?

I don't want that level of autism
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New thread:
>>6520389
>>6520389
>>6520389
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>>6520390
On the original version that homages scourge there was a section on the cab where the head has a tight clearance, to fold it in requires some care.

Fiddly doesn't always mean hard, just means you can slam parts around, its overall simple apart from that
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>>6520013
>Is scalpers and that kind of market bad there?
Yeah. It's a mix of scalping and being, by all intents and purposes related to toys, TRU country.
People here just want to have the greatest return on every sale they do so they often end up doing stupid shit like having a figure nobody wants at the highest price possible for literally years without ever thinking of reducing the price. I have to hunt used and half-busted figures when I want something for cheap or even for just a reasonable price because being wholly unwanted by everyone doesn't make a toy eligible to become cheap, being half-broken does.

>I know that is the trade of with Japan is that while cost is dicey you can buy way late locally without assholes trying to scalp the market because their culture actually refuses to buy shit like that.
Truly the sign of a master race.
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>>6520250
Does Hound come with both the AOE and TLK guns?
The lack of AOE guns on the new one, don't have the old one, is what stopped me from getting it.
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>>6520137
As it should
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>>6520302
>>6520307
>>6520309
Don't I know you from somewhere?
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>>6519119
what version of grimlock is that exactly?
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