Warhammer 40.000 General /40kg/

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First for orks.

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>>55430216
2th for ash waste nomads.

2nd for summoning after disembarking

>>55430206
Can you disembark after summoning?

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5th for old school castellens.

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>>55430206

>Nth for people who shit on monopose metal models and praised plastic kits back in the day now defending monopose plastics kits that cost more than Forge World counterparts

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So, what do you all think of:
>Foul Blightspawn? Unreliable crap or Heavy Infantry/Tank mulcher?
>Biologus Putrifier? Weak-ass buff or fantastic buff combined with the rest of the army?
>Roomba? Adorable but useless or adorable and useful?

So what are the real winners for Mechanicus? So far, I've seen

>Dragoons definitely
>tellyportin makes electros lose their one downside
>corpuscarii
>sounds like Kataphrons got a point drop, that's good

The Codex is a flop but we got some nice gubbinz. RIP rangers though

>>55430266
I thought he was giving thumbs up for a moment

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>>55430256
No

>>55430271
No

Stop posting

>>55430272
Ad mech is a curious faction. It turns out that the only winning strategy is not to play.

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Every once in a while until you like it

>>55430108
Wargamers want more people to play. Show up, act interested, ask questions. They'll help you.

>>55430270
Seems good to have the Biologus and Foul Blightspawn together in a rhino with some Plague Marines.

Roomba seems cool for the buffs at least. I want 1 for that alone.

>>55430288
What am I supposed to feel?

Also ironlet seized and still lost to Girlyman and his Stormravens.

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>>55430268

>>55430272
>RIP rangers though
Why? I hear they got slightly cheaper. My 4 Arquebi are rather happy with their Shroud Protocols.

>>55430285

Go engage in simulated self-replicatory activities, Heretek Omega.

>>55430270
Useful adorable, but not worth 3 unless you build around it or are in a large game.

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Huh, that's pretty neat.

>4TH PLAGUE COMPANY
>The 4th Plague Company is ruled over by the gestalt Daemon known as the Eater of Lives. Its Legionaries carry the Eater Plague, also called drizzleflesh, pockchewer and the endless gift, and its inhuman master favours Sorcerers and summonation.

>>55430300

>here's one now

Death Guard seem like they can handle conscripts well. If only you can get up to them.

What are the best ways to move death guard up the battlefield?

>>55430270
I think the Palsy Festerers are overcosted but the Sneeze Bringers are definitely worth it.

>>55430246
What are your interests anon?
The best way to make friends and be social is first to find people with common interests.

>Over the centuries, the Sorcerers of the Death Guard have concocted many outlandish names for these sects, based around the powers they exhibit. Thus were born the Malignant Plaguecasters, the Slopmaw Maggotmancers, the Cadaverous Faminebringers and many others.

>>55430314
Probably in a Rhino

Force Axes or Force Swords?

So other than daemon csm units like warp talons that can get buffed by daemons of the same alignment, is there any point in taking a mark of chaos on a unit that can't take an icon?

If not, could it mean that gw plans to make a daemonkin sort of deal where you get a bonus of all your units are KHORNE, TZEENTCH, etc?

>>55430314
Uh, no? Khorne bezerkers and leviathans dreads are the only units that handles conscripts well, with DCA, Electropriests, and a few other things as distant runners ups.

The only thing they've got going for them is poxwalkers, which can kill a few and add to their numbers. But that's it

>>55430344
Axes.

>>55430289
ok, but how it work if you don't have an army of your own. I can imagine that they are interested in new people with armies, but with those without out? wouldn't they just take up space at the store. But again am no great with the whole social thing.
To be honest you guys seem cool, I expected a lot worse .

>>55430369
They probably wouldn't mind if you didn't have an army yet.

>>55430369
They are going to be usually open to teaching you about the game.
Wargamers like to proselytize, but we're not the most social people ourselves. So we welcome the opportunity.

>>55430337
>the Malignant Plaguecasters™, the Slopmaw Maggotmancers™, the Cadaverous Faminebringers™

>>55430337
Faminebringer is still my favourite
>A Magical discipline revolving around lack of food

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So I know you can grab Z's email from yoyhammer, but how? I've been lurking for over a week and haven't found jack, do I need to ask for it? It seems like that's what you don't do, but I dunno

>>55430344
Axes, the change in AP is usually fine for wounding most other stuff on 3's. (and to boot most challenge characters have a 4++/5++ that make the extra AP useless anyway)

Alright admech are in a bad spot, what kind of FAQ points drops would save them since their stats are set in stone now and too late to un-fuck?

>>55430329
well according to my doctor the stuff am interested in is not healthy and good for me. But on the other hand staying for years and years in my room, is also bad. so as part of the theraphy I have to do social stuff, and If I don't, the goverment will stop paying for my meds .

I like sleeping from more normal stuff.

Hey, from looking at the Daemon Prince sprue it looks like lots of parts have multiple options, is it possible to build 2 princes from one box?

>>55430397
Maybe Chapter Approved can save em.

>>55430402
Now im curious, what are your current intrests that are so bad?

>>55430270
Roomba is basically a Ravenwing Darkshroud reflavored for Death Guard. In other words it's a support unit that's good but not worth spamming.

>>55430413
No,

>>55430423
well I like to look flames, I like the colors and warmth, the different sizes and how it moves as is it was alive and I like its smell, because there as so many different types of smells of fire. And it is warm, and it doesn't talk or shout. And it bright even when it dark.

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Just checked out the DG codex, why is all the new artwork so terrible?

>>55430397

It wouldn't be too hard to fix up the codex's utility with a few judicious point chops, especially with Cyraxus -eventually- doubling our number of usable units. In like, three years or whatever.

I'm just sad that my Ruststalkers are beyond saving just by a point drop. They're slower, less reliable and don't have FNP anymore. I have fifteen!

>>55430462
>new art
The arts been terrible for a while now.

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Played this last night in what was agreed to be a 1500 point match. Had to call for time after turn 2 ended, with my having a 6-3 victory for my necron force.

Holy fuck I am never playing this guy again. This isn't the first time his lists have been way over. Our other friends have tried helping him list build but the man just can not math.

What's a good way to make the calth marines look at bit more chaosy?

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>>55430462
>le connoisseur of artwork judges pictures in a space operas rulebook

>>55430272
I feel like Knights needed a buff or a point drop, since unless your opponent takes no anti-armor, you will loose your big guy very quickly.

>>55430454
You sound like a bit of a faggot. You should go and do wargameing. Make some friends.

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>>55430462
I think the artwork is pretty good. It's still a lot better than anything I can do....

>>55430490
So your friend brought this to a 1500 game and you won 6-3 at turn 2?

Not sure how that works but he isn't bad at math, he's just cheating and hoping you don't call him on it. Even if he keeps doing it, he's just hoping you ignore it

>>55430462
How does it feel to be such a pleb?

>>55430490
what kind of person brings almost 3000 points to a 1500 point game
hope he gets in a car crash

>>55430490
Why would you play that in the first place?

anon, where i can find some info about internal structure of hive ships? i read Orphan of Kraken and Advanced space crusade, what also?

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Are these two units Pay-to-Win ?

What's the difference between the Hellblasters and the Hellblasters Combat Squad? Looks like the combat squad has half the guys for half the price, is there any other difference?

>>55430478
Wait, what did they do to ruststalkers?

>>55430552
NO, they are reminder how good SM legions were.

>>55430555
Literally it.

>>55430369
What you represent, good anon, is a chance for them to nerd out about how cool their hobby is to someone who doesn't already know. Most nerds love that shit. Take it.

>>55430555
Read your codex.
>Combat Squads: Before any models are deployed at the start of the game, a Hellblaster Squad containing 10 models may be split into two units, each containing 5 models.

>>55430552
They're nowhere close to Magnus, typhus, celestine or guilliman

how many times can a unit fire overwatch?

>>55430552
Looks like 1 turn of Lychguard or Heat Ray + 2x Death Ray to me. Not very intimidating.

>>55430552
i dont think marines with bolters and chainaxes are strong enough to be called p2w but whatever

>>55430582
as many times as the narrative demands

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>>55430583
>necron

>>55430582
Infinite, unless it is locked in combat from a successful charge.

>>55430514
Yuuup. Calling him out now in Messenger.

>>55430543
Cause I don't read other army's rules and such. There's an honor system with my group of friends for lists but clearly he has violated it.

>>55430608
I mean it's the equivalent of asking someone for 4 apples and he brings 7.

>Whoops, i didn't know that wasn't 4

>>55430556

Reduced their effective move rate from 12 to 8, took away their feel no pain and took away their AP, replacing it with an unreliable mortal wound gimmick.

They're really bad in 8th.

>>55430606
gotcha, thanks. the T'au "greater good" rule had me wondering.

Give me some Death Guard lists!

I am so indecisive. I love everything but can't create a full list.

Anyone else think the AdMech video voiceover sound like Cabal from Tiberian Sun?

Looking to order some models from Z for the first time, can someone confirm if this is his email
[email protected]
where the numbers for X add up to 27?

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How to use pic related well ? What units should I pair him with ?

>>55430552
nah, expensive points wise, often specialized and pale in comparison to tough 40k units

>>55430655
Lieutenant, snd ancient, put 2 10 man squads of heavy hellblasters within range, and have fun

>>55430621
Oh, right. I thought you meant they'd nerfed them again in the move from index to codex. Small mercies, I suppose.

>>55430570
Celestine is in no way up to par when compared to the rest of those guys

>>55430624
That's the one exception. A unit that uses that rule can't fire overwatch again.

is TeamKill fun?

>>55430705
yes

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>>55430705
Do you mean kill team? It was fun last edition.

Is there a list of all Renegade SM that act as mercenaries? Not chaos-worshipping actively.

>>55430715
Dunno bout a list, but maybe the Crimson Castellans?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Crimson_Castellans

>>55430700
Got it, i was stunned, it looked like it ment that they wont be able to fire their own overwatch, as in "they get only one and they waste it helping another guy".

Thanks again.

>>55430705
NO, FUCK YOU FOR BEING 'THAT GUY' YOU TEAM KILLING FUCK

>>55430754
>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Crimson_Castellans
Pretty tired of painting red and black honestly but thank you, there's a list of renegade chapters on that link!

>>55430633
Have you tried emailing him with it ?
Because i get a automated "lol no such adres" response

>>55430547
bump

>death guard
Dude mortal wounds lmao

>>55430807
>thousand sons
Dude death guard cucked us of our niche lmao

>>55430807
> the army that rots your soul does mortal wounds
Weird right?

>>55430816
> ts have always been all about mortal wound
How could you be so wrong?

>>55430838
>TSons are about psychic powers
>psychic powers this edition have been reduced to buffing your units, debuffing enemy units or dealing mortal wounds
Same difference.

>>55430816
>>55430838
Tsons in 8th are all about Magnus face raping the enemy while the rubrics waddle up talking about how cool and strong he is

>>55430823
How does that imply they deserve mortal wounds?
Why wouldn't every chaos army shit mortal wounds? It's bad game design, dude. Lmao.

>>55430711
yeah, that one. do we have an ETA on the new version? What about the new tabletop RPG?

>>55430878
no
and
no

>>55430454
Look into candlemaking, blacksmithing, camping, or old fashioned BBQ.

>>55430308
Bitch we can read

>>55430867
A lot of armies seem to have a big Mortal Wounds theme. Death Guard, all the various psyker armies and Mechanicus, although the latter mostly has them in melee and with Wrath of Mars rather than just being glued onto a bunch of traits and wargear for random characters.

>>55430949
I would assume the doctor wanted him to get away from that behavior, not encurage it

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Its game day /tg/!

>>55430311
>plastics are good
>monopose is fine if it looks okay
CLEARLY THESE TWO FACTIONS MUST BE THE SAME

>>55430413
Unfortunately no. You'll need a second set of legs and a second backplate to make two. Luckily, bitz stores exist.

>>55430504
t. brainlet

>>55430979
I would be afraid my dogs would "inspect" the models.

>>55430361
Mortar teams also do pretty well against hoards, which is why both armies in the finals for nova had some

>>55430979
Make sure to post a battle report for the glory of Khorne. Also, post pupper.

>>55430999
Bourbon isn't the one i worry about. Its those fuckig cats.

>>55430478
Run them as Infiltrators. Only the most autistic of neckbeards will care.

>>55430999
Cats are more prone to that behaviour.

>>55430361
Plague Marines do amazing against conscripts.

>>55430504
>the book I paid forty bucks for and that boasted "amazing artwork" in the description has mediocre artwork at best

C'mon man, I think the artwork is fine, but if you pay that much money for it, and remember, the artwork supposedly makes a good chunk of the book's price, then you can at least expect them to put decent artwork in it, therefore, complaining about it is perfectly acceptable. In my opinion dumb since the artwork is fine, but at least should not be dismissed outright.

>>55431033
my dog would love to inspect models by the way of chewing but my cats would just throw them onto the floor and toss them around
both = bad end

>>55430268
I always liked monopose metal models and I love the new monobuild kits.

Who wants to spend hours gluing kits together just to look like they do in the pictures anyway for the most part?

So is Stygies VII the only Forgeworld worth using?

>>55430504
>>55431059

He paid $40 to be one of the first to have it. Wait a few months and buy one for half price on eBay.

>>55430999
That's a cat thing. My Dark Angels and Grey Knights as well as my friends Thousand Sons know this too well. They've seen some shit with that cat alright.

>>55430979
Post pic of dog

>>55431070
Mine just smells them. For now.
The only thing he "did" was hide himself in the box I use to spray the primer, so some models had one small hair stuck somewhere. I had to inspect them all before painting, and im afraid I missed something.

Can anyone justify the monolith being 381 god damn points?

>>55430270
Roomba seems to totally cuck poor helbrutes. Cheaper, more weapons, faster , tougher and has fnp, about as good in CC, and provides a shroud buff.

I like them. I think a couple to bubble your advancing deathguard and poxwalkers is very powerful, especially as it's much more difficult to get any kind of cover save in 8e

>>55430999
My dog had a massive sneeze-fest after sniffing my Stormhost Silver once, so now she doesn't come anywhere near my minis and work area anymore.

Alright, I edited my list based on the suggestions i got yesterday. How hard is bit to move around a 40 count cult blob?

CSM - Alpha Legion
Total: [109 PL, 1999pts, 8cp]

Battalion Detachment


-HQ:
Arkos [124pts]


Lord w/ Jump Pack, Bolt pistol, The Murder Sword [97pts]

Apostle w/ Bolt pistol, Power maul [76pts]

-Troops:
Cultists [196pts]:
. 35x Cultist w/ autopistol, ccw
. 4x Cultist w/ Flamer
. Champion: Shotgun

Cultists [40pts]: 9x Cultist w/ Autogun
. Champion: Autogun

Cultists [40pts]: 9x Cultist w/ Autogun
. Champion: Autogun

-Elites:
Contemptor Dreadnought w/ Havoc launcher, chainclaw, Soulburner, Butcher cannon [240pts]

-Heavy Support:
Leviathan Dreadnought w/ 2x Grav-flux, 2x Hellflamer [339pts]

Vanguard Detachment

-HQ:
Exalted Champion w/ Plasma pistol, Power sword [81pts]

Sorcerer on Disc w/ Eye of Tzeentch, Force sword, Plasma pistol [146pts]

-Elites:
Terminators [253pts]:
. Champion: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. 2x Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power axe
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power sword
. Terminator: 2x Lightning Claw

Chosen [180pts]:
. Champion: Combi-plasma, Power sword
. 5x Chosen w/ Plasma gun

Berzerkers [187pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Champion: Chainaxe, Plasma pistol
. 9x Berzerker: Chainsword and Chainaxe

>>55431111
I know this feel all too well. I was doing some conversion projects the other day and my cat had slept on my work table overnight. I spent more time pulling hairs out of my greenstuff than I did using it.

>buy the new veteran seargent thinking it was like the anniversary marine
>realize my mistake too late
>I now have 4 seargent for 2 squads of intercessors

woe is me

>>55430765
>>55430765
That's exactly how it works. What is your interpretation of it?

The sequence should be as follows:

1. Enemy declares a charge on your unit
2. You declare which units use For the Greater Good within 6" of the unit targeted by the charge.
3. Resolve all your overwatches.
4. Enemy is dead hopefully
5. The units that assisted with For the Greater Good can no longer fire any overwatch this phase. The unit that was targeted by the charge can however, so long as it didn't end up getting involved in a melee combat.

What should my second beep boop HQ be? Have a dominus and will get the tech priest on abeyant from FW to proxy as Cawl. Were dominus improved in the codex or should i just get an enginseer now that they are HQs?

>>55431045
Only with the grenade stratagem. Poxwalkers are the only way Death Guard has of reliably killing Conscripts without employing stratagems. Other than those two, the army is way too elite to work through such massive units. I mean, I guess you could use a Psyker with Plague Wind as well, but even that drops in effectiveness once the Conscripts units get smaller and smaller.

>>55431119
It's nigh unkillable flyer that can deep strike along with most of an army.

>>55431095
Mars with cawl duh

>>55431139

Combat squads, motherfucker.
Also unique looking lieutenants.

>>55431096
>this in some way invalidates everything I replied to, therefore I win

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>>55431148
Enginseer all the way. Don't really need the extra 100pts of stuff when there's a 20" diameter bubble of Cawl nonsense sitting there, and the Enginseer fixes Crawlers as well as the Dominus does. I was thinking of finishing my two standard Domini and my Cawl conversion and then making a "command staff" of three Enginseers (two Battallions) and a bunch of converted Mechanicus Assassins as Skitarii Primus. No idea where I'd get all those enginseer models without paying a zillion pounds, though. I'm Biologis, so maybe the Solar Auxilia Medicae with a few augments and minus the aquilas.

>>55431178

You decided to pay top MSRP at launch for a book without inspecting the contents first, on a fistful of assumptions. You burned yourself. You could have paid $1000 and it would still be the same argument.

Even the rich assholes who commissioned that one art piece that is literally shit in a can knew what they were buying.

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So my CSM renegades have 10 marines to split between various chapters. What cunts can I add? Was thinking of having at least a single Marine Malevolent that nobody in the squad likes but they don't fuck with him cause he holds the squad flamer.

On the list are 2 extra-grumpy Steel Brethren, 2 or 3 Damned Company of Lord Caustos and perhaps a Purge marine nicknamed Mr Stinky.

>>55431143
The interpretation I had was the same as the one you posted, but my overthinking, which was wrong, implied that both units had only one overwatch to spare for turn, and that the helping unit would be wasting his own.

>>55431090
I hear X-Wing is pretty popular, why not play that instead?

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The codex DG artwork isn't breathtaking but it's miles ahead of the Blanchefest that spoiled several Daemon books.

Prmaris Pysker or Grayfax in IG lists?

>>55431177
Gotcha. I may make a small squad of 5 with stalker rifles and brown capes, always wanted to try my luck with greenstuff.
Integrating them in a squad would also work, but this guys have a small skull on the helmet, right? it bothers my autism knowing there's an extra seargeant in there.

>>55431219
>this in some way means nobody is allowed to complain about the quality of artwork in a book that boasts about its artwork

>>55431237
Any new lore ?

>>55431249
Primaris psyker is fluffier. Don't be a WAACnigger.

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>Tfw they made Perty lose to Morty despite how it described Perty was kicking Mortys ass 1v1

Ree

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>>55431163
>nigh unkillable

>>55431265
Yes.

>>55431252
>>55431264
How are these bad

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>>55431265
Nurgle plagues can kill necrons and nids.
Morty fought Mortarion, and Morty won.
Typhus beat Huron and call him a bitch
DG apothecaries are making new CSM from DG and stolen loyalist gene-seed.
Link to codex is in bottom OP

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Been thinking about how to use ruststalkers, because the models are so cool and I don't want to just leave them on the shelf. I think they could be useful, but you need to invest a few CP (and hope for a bit of luck) to pull it off.
>10 ruststalkers
>infiltrate with stygies VIII stratagem (1 CP)
>pray to the omnissiah that you get the first turn
>charge hopefully at something better than a cheap bubblewrap unit
>activate skitarii +1 to hit in melee stratagem (1 CP)
>31 attacks, mortal wounds on a 5 or 6 to hit
>10.33 mortal wounds with blades, 13.66 mortal wounds with razor + claw (plus any other damage from non-MW hits)
I mean, that sounds dangerous, if you can pull it off. Obviously, lots of ways it can go wrong though.

Electro-priests with staves can a similar trick, and are much more resilient if it goes wrong, but they have fewer attacks and can't benefit from the skitarii stratagem - by my maths 10 of them do 6.66 mortal wounds with this trick. Still respectable, but not the specular ~14 mortal wound nuking the ruststalkers can manage.

This is where someone crushes my dreams by saying in the codex ruststalkers only do mortal wounds on a 6, not a 6+, isn't it?

>>55431291

You try dueling a daemon primarch with <FLY>. It aint easy.

>>55431315
I mean Morty fought Pertorabo.

>>55431315
>morty beat mortarion
How did morty beat himself

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>>55431315
>Morty fought Mortarion, and Morty won.

>>55431291
>pert ever getting anything nice
Iron warriors are literally written as the most shit on legion for a reason

>>55431318
He only lost cus his guys were all succumbing to plague, it described how Perty was kicking Mortys ass and how fucked up Morty was after the fight

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>>55431309
They're not. Anon wanted this.

>>55431317
The rusties do Mortal Wounds on 6+ To Wound, not 6+ To Hit, so the Skitarii strat isn't quite the massive damage spike it looks. Still, probably not a terrible idea since that's a fairly cheap 20 wound block sitting on top of something expensive.
Personally I'm using 20 Fulgurites for that trick since they get a 3++ out of it, but they're way more expensive and don't like morale losses.

>>55431351
Bugger, I knew I must have missed something. Was a bit suspicious nobody else had spotted this, now I know why.

>>55431315
Typhus beat Huron and spared him to show that Nurgle was strong but merciful.

I like the part about the oldest Blightspawn bloating and melding to the floor like fungi and younger Blightspawn learning from them.

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Cute Nurgling for attention.

Anyone think that Poxwalkers are pretty bad? After the Chaos codex, I expected them to get a points drop, but they didn't. Before it was 5 for cultist, 8 for Plaguebearers. Now its 4 for cultist and 7 for Plaguebearer. Where does that leave Poxwalkers at 6?

If you really want chaff, go for cultists. If you want something reliable and straight up better in many ways, for 1 point more get plaguebearers.

To make poxwalkers good you need to buff them for speed, you need to have typhus buffing them or cast spells on them. Even then they don't become amazing. I feel like going 'elite' with my Death Guard and setting aside a few hundred points for summoning some plaguebearers, drones or whatever. Nurgle Daemons seem cool.

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>>55431107
He's good dog, Who dogs. Setting up for chaos on chaos violence. 1500pts.

>>55430396
Dont bother with him. The quality of his stuff is shit.
Search for miranda.
Also dont buy recast vehicles that has flat surface areas. (For example a centaur ) it just isnt worth it.

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>>55431309
I'm not sure if I like the artwork obviously depicting the models they sell, to the point where I go "Oh, there's the gas mask and grenade guy." It seems odd for the same 10-15 Death Guard to show up in all the art, feels less like "epic battle" and more like "don't YOU want the gas mask guy in YOUR epic battle?"
Then again, they are a company. Just feels a little hamfisted.

>>55431265
Oh yeah, remember Foulspawn, the Nurgle Chaos Spawn? Its story is actually expanded upon. Morty tossed it into the wilderness of the plague planet and it's the size of a mountain now.

>>55431377
>>55431315
Can Typhus beat Abaddon or Kharn?

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>>55431329

Emperor's Legion share anyone?

>>55431386
What are your thoughts on Nurglings?

>>55431329
Do you think the whiteish liquid is puss?

>>55431424
Jesus Christ the novel is soooo good. I cannot stop reading it. It reveals so much about Terra, the High Lords, and many more. It's about the Fall of Cadia and how it impacted Terra.

>>55431419
Only if plot demand's it.

>>55431426
I think they're decent. But you need to start them on the field and not summon them.

They're purpose is just to annoy and tie up enemies in their deployment zone. If you start first, oh boy. Fun.

If they start first, its not the end of the world. They have to spend quite a decent chunk of firepower to remove them, firepower not spent on your dudes.

>>55431419
Can anyone?

>>55430206
Hey guys, just wanted to know your opinions on primaris as troops coices.
I haven't played any games with them yet, and I wanted to know if anyone found them useful

>>55431291
Draigo beats Morty with one punch.

Pert cannot beat him in a duel that lasted 7 hours. Primarch a shit.

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>>55431453

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>>55431450
They're good target practice. Bigger targets are more easy to hit than smaller ones.

>>55431163
Go write a terrible tactics article on 1d4chan. You're all but retarded.

>>55431468
Holy fuck that's le wrinkly faced man

>>55431405
That's actually a pretty good point; I'm not sure if I noticed it as much with WoM

>>55431386
Cant take plauge beaeres in a deathguard deatchment. Pox walkers also get to make more of themselves. Not the best, but it is what it is

>>55431453

To be fair, Perty is not a specialized duelist. Its to Morty's shame that he couldn't finish Perty in 7 hours, despite being all about muh CC muh scythe.

>>55431450
Except for Hellblaster, others are just meh tier.

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>>55431471

>>55431453
Let's assume Draigo through a hell of a hit.
Cocked back, full force, hell of a swing and it took 1 second to connect with Morty.

60 seconds in a minute, 3600 seconds in an hour
25200 seconds in 7 hours

Draigo can defeat Pert with 1/25200 the effort

>>55431453
>Draigo beats morty in his own novel and codex
>Morty beats another named character in his own codex

Next thing I'll hear is that Abbaddon is portrayed as a compelling and powerful character in his own novel.

>>55431386
>>55431488

Proxy plaguewalkers as nurgle cultists?

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>>55431386
Poxwalkers don't take morale tests, which is a massive bonus, as any Conscript-spamming faggot can attest to. By comparison, kill 15 Cultists and 10 more run away.
They also have 2 attacks each which, with a bit of buffing, can actually be pretty decent and they can replenish the few losses they do take by munching on those Conscripts everyone struggles with. They're pretty much like Zombies in AoS: Terrible on their own, incredible when supported correctly.

>>55431398
Mah man!

>>55431472
Has anyone on here tried to unfuck 1d4chan?

>>55431502

Draigo can defeat anyone with <DAEMON>.

>>55431488
Poxwalkers are tarpits. Self regenerating artpists but tarpits none the less.

>>55431504
Greyfax defeated the DG in their own codex.

>>55431490
Both are daemon primarchs now so everything is quite irrellevant as their power fluctuates a lot between fluff pieces.
You could always imagine that Morty just sparred with Pert for 7 hours because Muh numerology papa nurgle bless

>>55431507
Hmm I forgot about the 2 attacks.

May be decent with a Surgeon, a bell boy and a tallyman.

Also what was up with all the pre-codex talk that the tallyman was BS and WS 5? He's 3. Weird that he has no melee weapon though.

>>55431510
Probably, but anyone who tries is autistic. It's why half of any given article will be nerd arguments.

>>55431344
Blanche isn't bad. Anon wanted rogue trader stuff.

>>55431523
That story was there to show that the Death Guard focus on rituals and numerology was a weakness and not just strength. They lose in other stories, like Tyranids vs Death Guard.

Death Guard and Tyranids create so much poison and shit that even the Death Guard are melted down into goop. When the Tyranid hive fleet comes to suck up the Tyranid/Death Guard slop, it recoils and fucks off.

>>55431510
I try to keep the Adeptus Mechanicus tactica page clean and concise, but faggots keep adding retarded opinions and alternate takes.

>>55431523
In the grim darkness of the far future /fit/ girls still beat the shit out of fa/tg/uys

>>55431545
That sounds pretty awesome, some months ago I was wondering what would happen if a hive fleet found a plague world who'd win. Looks like someone in GeeDubs reads these threads

>>55431569
The Doom of Hesp Vectoriums of the 4th and 7th engage the Tyranids of Hive Fleet Lotan amidst the steaming jungles of Hesp. When the swarms deploy Toxicrenes and Venomthropes to poison the environment, the Death Guard respond with plague spells, virus bombs and daemonic diseases. With neither side willing to back down, the atmosphere of Hesp becomes ever more toxic until the jungles, and even the warring armies, are reduced to a gory, bubbling soup. The first Tyranid hive ship to taste this poisoned slurry recoils, its proboscis melting, and is bombarded into oblivion by the rest of its fleet. Hesp is left as an endless sea of toxic slime, too virulent for even the hive fleets to devour.

>>55431581
>and is bombarded into oblivion by the rest of its fleet.

Why though?

>>55431495
So you would consider a tac squad better than a primaris one?

>>55431601
To stop the spread of the contaminant

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>>55430570
Folk consider Typhus OP?

What is the points value of a command point?

>>55431608
but poison doesn't spread.

>>5543158
Awesome, this is the type of stuff that got me into tyranids

>>55431601
So any potential plague would not spread into the rest of the tendril

>>55431450

The wet squelch noise they make when hit by D2 attacks is amusing.

>>55431613
Dude
T5
BULLSHIT

>>55431620
20-60

According to Kairos

>>55431622
Viruses and Damon's diseases do.

>>55431601
The infection probably would have caused it to mutate horribly or something. Tyranids have to take time to develop immunity to stuff, so the ship was dead anyways. Best not to leave it floating around.

>>55431622
It's not only poison silly, a plague must have vectors, it could be anything, from something small like prions,to just warp-induced parasitoids

>>55431613
Woops l, meant morty

>>55431309
They aren't. But the thoroughly will say they are and then go back to calling everything over designed.

>>55431606
Intercessor has their own merits, 3 more inch of rapid fire is quite a good adventage and they tough to wipe out which make them good for holding objective.
Tatical is more versatile since they can get other special and heavy shit but they are fragile as fuck now since a guardsman can kill them as well with a lucky shot.

>>55431620
>using a Command Point to forward deploy a unit of Reivers so you don't have to buy Grav-Chuts for them: 20 points
>using a command reroll to save a Hellblaster from blowing himself up: 36 points
>using a command point to unload 20 Blight Grenades into a unit of Conscripts, killing them instantly: Priceless.

The first Mega link doesn't work.

I feel like the death guard is missing actual diseases in their arsenal. Something that hits once, sticks and possibly spreads.

So you could infect a unit of many models and they would slowly die.

I guess thats just not something that exists in the ruleset for 40k?

>>55431581
>>55431601
>>55431622
Also keep in mind that this was the 4th Company, who chiefly use the Eater of Lives, a disease that literally makes your flesh melt off. I don't think the Hive Mind would want to risk that getting into the fleets.

>>55431730
Something like that could get out of hand pretty easily, the auras they have are enough.

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>>55431691
Guardsmen could always kill marines relatively easily.

>>55431730
That would be OP.

>>55431730
Not anymore. They used to have stuff that keeps on ticking, but these days the rules are simplified to the point where this would be too complicated. And considering how generally ineffective such rules have always been, it's not a huge loss. Having to test for something every turn and all in all it ends up doing 3 S4 hits over the whole game is not fun.

>>55431450
I like them. Keep them away from d2 weapons and they can tank a surprising amount of fire. The 2 attacks base also make them decent in close combat.

>>55431730
There's a 30k Mech relic that does something like that. 12" haywire shot, but any vehicle that survives automatically hits itself and any other vehicles within 12" next turn, and so on and so forth until everything is smoking wrecks by the end of Turn 5.

A Death Guard trick like that would either be amazing (if it spread notably within the first few turns, which is all that 8e games tend to get through before someone's lost anyway) or terrible (if it could be outmaneuvered easily or takes ages to spread).

>>55431746
>>55431756

Would it though? You can word it so that they only take damage if they move, making kiting less of a problem if you manage to get to them once?

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>>55431788
So they wouldn't even be able to save?

Yes, very OP.

Either they get killed by shooting, charging or that unsavable damage.

>>55431730
Have you considered that maybe the mortal wound causing auras and all that are suppose to represent all the diseases and such infecting enemy troops ?

But static effects on enemy units that you have to keep track of for the rest of the game are terrible in a game the size of 40k and slow it down, as we saw with Soul Blaze in 7th.

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Why is he always shit on guys?

>>55431653
From what I hear people arent having too much trouble taking Morty down. Just ye olde Las cannons to the face.

>>55431526
3&5 look alot alike in shitty photos.

>>55430570

Morty isn't even that good.

>>55431820
Because he fucked up, and was written shittily, so he gets used as a punching bag

>>55431730
It works better in Dark Heresy than on a battlefield.

>>55430698

Lol are you fucking retarded - she is one of the single best character buys you can make. She doesn't do what the others do but as far as 'bullshit for the cost' Celestine is the fucking champ.

Can't die? Check
Fly? Check
Good in combat? Check

>>55431754
My point is Intercessor is tougher and better in everyway, but their downside is they dont have any transport options beside Repulsor which make them less flexible then Tatical.

So I like the DG codex stuff but I am curious if I can include anything from the CSM codex by replacing <legion> with DG, is that possible?

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>>55431804
It's from a bigger piece of art work from the Warzon: Mont'ka supplement 7th.

>>55431887
Yes, minus some things like Havocs and Bikers.

How many Assassins is too many assassins? I was thinking of using an Admech Execution Force along with my Stygies boys, with an Eversor as a Rustie Clade Leader, Culexus as Infil Clade Leader (boosted Neurostatic aura as Abomination), Vindicare as Ranger Primus and Callidus as a Lachrimallus SubMagos with neural whip and such who works with the electropriest servitors.

Also, what base are the assassins on?

>>55431887

No - it is its own Codex now. You can take what's in it and that's it.

>>55431878
Being hard to kill without actual damage to back it up doesn't mean it's a good unit.

Proof : Necrons right now.

>>55431895

That is incorrect - you use the entries in the DG book - that's the reason they duplicated certain entries like Chaos Lord, Terminator Lord, etc. It does not tell you to reference the CSM Codex at all.

>>55431887
Fucking idiot.

>>55431922
ok Carnak take your pills.

>>55431922
>>55431920
>>55431899
>>55431895
where in the rules does it say this though? If a CSM unit has CHAOS, NURGLE, and DEATH GUARD keywords then what is the problem?

>>55431871
Also with her alone you can basically respawn all the cheerleaders every turn. Heal Celestine up, move faster or fight more every turn. For 250 points she is a very good distraction carnifex that can tarpit a lot of stuff

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Play, paint, make anything interesting lately, Anons?

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>>55431952

In the CSM Codex.

I hope Inquisition will get nicely written codex(not rule wise), Inquisition is one of most interesting factions of the Imperium.

>>55431952
CSM codex says you can't give anything in it DEATH GUARD for its <LEGION> keyword. Same for Fallen and Thousand Sons.

>>55431981
>>55431988
ok, that is a shame

>>55431895
>>55431981

You can just take an outrider detachment of bikers if you really want them though.

>>55432006

Sure they just don't get any DG bonuses. Or you could take a flyer wing to make sure Morty doesn't get aced early game.

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>>55431952
CSM codex, p. 116, it's explicitly forbidden to pick Death Guard as a detachment's <Legion> keyword.

Now, obviously, you can take a 2nd detachment of CSM from the Geth Dard legion or whatever, but they won't get get any of the DG special rules or share any synergies.

>>55431977
painting doing a squad of intercessors and some Lts. The kit is growing on me

>>55431398
Weims are best dogs. Energetic as all hell though, I was in the best shape of my life when I had a weim.

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>>55432002
No, it's something that makes sense and stops little WAACfaggots like you from making retarded armies that rape the lore.

>>55432006
>>55432016

yeah that may be what I do.

>>55432036

Eh it is still entirely possible to take units not available to DG in a BF'd army thanks to the way the system works.

>>55431398
Good Boy!

>>55430552
Is it reasonable for my Chapter Master to be interred in a Deredo?

Is it lame if I just go for the old school orangey brown Tau paint scheme instead of my own?

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Saw this in /wip/, thought you guys might like it.
Which games are these from?

>>55431386
>survive the shithole that is Barbarus
>get taken, send away or run away from your family and end up with a bunch of 7 feet tall assholes
>survive the shitshow that is DG recruitment process
>spend years almost dying taking the implants
>spend a few decades learning how to fire a bolter, drive a tank or gunship, military tactics, constant drills every day etc
>spend a few decades getting shot at by aliens
>spend another decade getting shot at by other marines
>end up a glorified scribe with an abacus and a retarded demon

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>>55430878

GW already released preliminary rules this edition for the Konor campaign. They'll likely see revision.

>>55431977
Still painting my Reivers. I lost myself adding bits from cadian infantry, purity seals and pouches.

>>55432070
His your dude, is it reasonable for him to be interred in a Deredo?

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The best knight, or the worst knight?

>>55432073
Do you like it? Then no.

>>55432077
Necromunda, old techmarine and skaven in center and below.

>>55432077
I like the last one. IIRC, Tech Gang is from Confrontation/Necromunda.

>>55431730
WarmaHordes has something like that with Fire and Corrosion effects. Basically you would cast a spell, do damage, and then at the beginning of the player's consecutive turns they would take one point of damage until they rolled a 6 on a d6 to put it out.

>>55431265
Death guard went from highly fragmented to most organized and cohesive traitor legion

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>>55432106
I do. My design isn't popping, I don't particularly like the new Vior'la default, and this (pic related) looks great desu; old design with dark green detail.

>>55432073

I actually think it looks solid - especially when done well.

Numbering 1-10 starting at top left

>1 - Unknown
>2 - Necromunda - Redemptionist
>3 - 40k - Space Wolf
>4 - Necromunda (I cheated I know the gang tag at the bottom)
>5 - WHFB - Plague Priest
>6 - 40k - Chaos Cultist
>7 - Thinking Necromunda but unknown
>8 - 40k - Inquistorial Henchmen
>9 - WHFB - Skaven poison grenade tosser guy
>10 - Not sure - I think Necromunda again

>>55432139
Morty comeing out to play will do that

>>55432077
Of what I recognize:
top left Necromunda - Bounty Hunter
top middle Necromunda - Redemptionist Brother
middle far left - Necromunda Scavvy (arms were on separate sprue)
middle left - WHF Plague Priest
middle right - Necromunda Scavvy(?) Juve
bottom middle -WHF Poison Wind Gnobladier

>>55432149

Meant to respond to >>55432077 with answers

>>55431977
I had a game Friday that was fun. it was 2000 points, my Guard and Ministorum vs my friend's Eldar in an Open War Relic game where we didn't have to take morale, which was comfy for me. I had a melee oriented list with Conscripts, melee characters, Crusaders, lots of Bullgryn and transports. I ended up winning, but it was an obnoxious game because all my cool units got shot to death before getting the chance to do anything. So the whole game was basically just watching my stuff die or getting multi-charged by vehicles to limit my mobility.

My take away from the game was, I need more Scions and more artillery. That way I can blow things up and cause more distractions. Having a mass of units push the center where the objective was worked this time, but it only worked because my army was durable and took a lot of time to kill. It might have been a different story if the game didn't auto-end on turn 5, but that's Open War for you.

>>55432089
Lovely, thanks a lot.

>>55432100
Survivor of the betrayal at Calth, interred in a Deredo afterwards and put in a new chapter created with veterans of the conflict, but is now the only survivor and therefore held in awe. I figure he'd be the official chapter master but leaves most of the actual work to his "aide", who serves as the unofficial leader of the chapter. I figure it's alright since FW decided to make the chapter master of the Red Scorpions interred in a Leviathan.

I suddenly have the urge to go fast, is Ravenwing good ?

>>55432173
>I won with a conscript based list in a game where morale didn't matter.

Gee really? Tell me your secrets.

>>55432016
>>55432054
You can take a generic nurgle renegade CSM detachment and take a death guard detachment. They will synergizes with themselves but not each other, but you will still have a legal army due to faction keywords and each will have their chapter tactics.

I sorta will do this myself in a way. Have a bikerlord that's allowed in the Index, but if they phase them out like they did with AoS stuff recently in the V2 handbook, I'll move him to a separate patrol detachment so I can keep my chapter tactic.

>>55432188
But you know that he probably will no longer be chapter master after this?
They will appoint new CM.

>>55431977
>metal Thunderhawk
I have heard legends of those things. It costs you a year of your life to assemble one and you bulk up like cultist of Khorne just by fielding it regularly.

>>55432214

You weren't allowed to take the biker lord in the Index DG list.

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>>55431751

>>55432203
It was only a blob of 20 and a blob of 25, which are 135 points out of 2000, not exactly a "Conscript based list". They literally did nothing that game other than take mild fire and die. The list was more based around 9 Bullgryn, Crusaders and melee characters which just got shot to death.

>>55432227
If this is true, just make him "Dude McDude, Vicar of the MyDudes chapter"

>>55432214

They don't synergize much at all. The Death Guard book bonuses specify <Death Guard> not <Nurgle>. Your army is legal but your characters aren't going to buff other detachments, etc.

>GW finally prints a points efficient way to take out conscripts with plague Marines grenade spam
>No deepstrike rules to get them into position, and 5 inch movement.

Ffffuuuuuu

>>55432227
You misunderstand, he became chapter master afterwards due to being the only living member of the chapter that fought at Calth. My chapter has an incredible hatred of the Word Bearers and their entire chapter culture is about Calth. Therefore they worship Deredo dude and honour him but realize they need someone else to do the real work.

>>55432240
I don't play Nurgle, I meant I will make multiple detachments to play what I want and remain legal.

>>55432261
Yeah of course, that's what I meant by "but not each other". They're essentially 2 separate armies, but that's the price you pay. Your written fluff and theme can patch that up easily.

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>>55432173
>conscripts

>>55432296

>Only living member of the Chapter that fought at Calth

>Chapter

>At Calth

>>55432269
You allergic to rhinos?

>>55432320
Chapters were part of some Legions.
The Ultramarines were divided into Chapters.

>>55432352
You can't fit 20 plague Marines in a rhino. Taking ten reduces the potency of your command points.

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>>55432320
Ultramarines Legion was subdivided into chapters even during the heresy. Girlyman liked it so much he foisted it on everybody else.

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>>55432352
I am. Those clown cars looked silly next to old marines and they look even sillier next to the DG.

>>55432320
Are you fucking daft? He's the only survivor of the original members drafted into the chapter.

>>55430308
>drizzleflesh
>pockchewer
Did they get someone's edgy 12 year old son to write this crap?

>>55432397
He's a dying breed.

>>55431751
I noticed that too.

>>55432362

So they took that dude - and only that dude - to act as the command structure of a new chapter? Every other one of them was only created after Calth?

>>55432391
>>55432397

Still doesn't make sense - if they're drafting marines to create the chapters you'd think they'd select more than one single veteran dude to be the command basis.

>>55432403

Why do those names bother you? They're names given to the disease by a myriad of people.

>>55431896
Sounds interesting, the assassins are on 32mm Bigger Space Marine bases.

>>55432425
>>55432425
No you moron.

>make chapter out of a 1000 dudes that fought at calth
>one by one they all die except this guy who is put into a dread.
>venerated beyond reason by the newblood.

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Just wondering if the anon who posted this could post a guide/ what paints he used for it.

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IT WAS HIS TURN!!

>>55432425
>So they took that dude - and only that dude - to act as the command structure of a new chapter?

He was the only one left apparently.

>>55432425
Idiot
>>55432452
Thanks for explaining.

>>55431896
>How many Assassins is too many assassins?
My fluff gland says more than one.

>>55432372
>You can't fit 20 plague Marines in a rhino.
Not with THAT attitude.

But seriously, how easy is it to get 20 dudes in grenade range anyway?

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>>55432452

>>55432143
So go for it you ethereal loving drone.

t. Farsight

>>55432502
with 5 inch movement? Not easy, considering every unit in every codex can outrun you.

>>55432372

How many can a Spartan hold?

Why is my local GW closed on Mondays? What heresy is this?

>>55432531
That could work. 25 capacity, that's enough for a full plague squadron plus all the support it needs.

>>55432452

They venerate Calth and its veterans so they decided to inter only one guy in a dread? Still makes no fucking sense. If they're all about Calth, hate the Word Bearers, etc. you'd think they'd have tossed a few more into dreads to preserve them.

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>>55432503
What do you want to know? They're my own OC chapter, Scions of Calth is the current name. Here's also a test scheme for the chapter, 4th company. I've decided to change the eyes to red and redo the chapter icon.
Any marine that kills a Word bearer may paint their right fist blue.

>>55432548
Because he's the only one that has survived for 10 000 years, by Guilliman...

>>55430413
>Hey, from looking at the Daemon Prince sprue it looks like lots of parts have multiple options, is it possible to build 2 princes from one box?

I made a second one by making my own back and snakey lower half out of greenstuff but youre probably better getting the bitz

>>55432540

Most are closed on Sundays and Mondays or Mondays and Tuesdays best I can tell.

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>>55432461
I hate how GW nonstop builds him up but then shits on him.

>>55432566

So the other ones who died or were injured who were also veterans of Calth they just told to fuck off?

>>55430974
>>55430949
yeah am not allowed near fire. my parents had to get new stoves etc.

I asked my father about money and my new budget is 400$. it is not the required few thousands, but am thinking about necron. The models look easy to paint. I just don't know what I need besides the starter set to start collecting.

>>55432583
dreadnoughts can die too.

Are you seriously this dense or are you just mad that everyone called you a moron, so you're being pissy?

>>55432583
HE'S THE ONLY ONE ALIVE AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS. ALL THE OTHER MARINES OR DREDS ARE DEAD.

>>55432455
AL is a tough legion friendo, good luck.

>>55432540
a business can only be opened if they can guarantee sales that day. most places don't make enough money monday or tuesday since the weekends is when consumers and kids have time/money to spend

>>55432551
I like your chapter icon in that pic. What are you changing it to?

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/17/firestorm-the-armies-of-the-great-cities-and-the-elite-of-the-death-guard/

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