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Stat me, enlightened brethrens
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Should have dropped the character after Siegfried became a paladin desu.
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>>43454900

HQ 275 points

WS 9 BS 3 S 6 T 5 W 5 I 6 A 6 LD 10 SV 2+

Special rules:
Character(unique)
eternal warrior
Fearless
Fear
preferred enemy(siegfried)
Bulky
Counter Attack
Greater Deamon
Rampage
ML3 (Demonology, pyromancy, telepathy)
Soul Devourer
Grab

Soul Devourer: For each enemy unit destroyed by Nightmare, Automatically restore one wound and add 1 to attack characteristic

Grab: if in a challenge, Nightmare's controlling player may exchange all normal attacks for a grab attack that must be rolled to hit as normal. If the grab attack hits the enemy challenger suffers D3 automatic wounds no saves of any kind allowed

Soul Edge Range: - S:+3 AP: 1 Type: Shred, Amourbane, Blade of Destruction

Blade of Destruction: All invulnerable saves taken against this weapon have -1 to invulnerable saves.
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>>43455057
Isn't it literally a sentient suit of armor now?
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>>43455453

So does that make him a Greater Daemon or a Demon Prince?
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>>43455654
He was just a suit of armor moved around by the sword's magic in 3 and 4.

In 5 he got a body back but then his body died and he turned into a loli.
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>>43455677

i don't know, greater deamon is like a 3+ or 4+ save, that's all that matters
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>>43455741
>he turned into a loli
Need pics.
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This is the biological daughter of an infamous dread pirate and original owner of Soul Edge, who was forced to take the artificial soul of a homunculus she was crafting (because she's super deep into alchemy after her foster father) after said dread pirate dad stole her original soul, rendering her functionally immortal and unaging in the process. Because she has a cursed lineage, she took a vow of celibacy so as not to let the lineage spread.

THIS is a celibate woman.
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>>43455453
Awesome, now do Siegried.
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>>43455763
Ok maybe not a loli but still.
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>>43455776

There's always getting her baby maker snipped so she doesn't have to worry about getting pregnant ever again. Then again she'd have to wait until medical technology advanced enough to allow that though.
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>>43455763
He's talking about Pyrrha, Sophitia's daughter. In Soul Calibur 5, Soul Edge ended up with Pyrrha, and Soul Calibur ended up with Patroklos, Sophie's son.

Also, Elysium, Soul Calibur's inhabitant soul and equivalent to Inferno, takes the form of the person the wielder is most comfortable with. In Patty's case, it was of his mother, Sophitia.
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>>43455788
>When you need to masturbate but your hand is a monster
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>>43455842

It's not masturbation when you're doing it with someone else.
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>>43455865
Who's going to fuck a girl with a monster arm?
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>>43455817
She's a fantasy alchemist. You'd think she would've figured something out by now.
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>>43455788
I love how the sword is staring back at her like "Dude, chill the fuck out."
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>>43455788
>soul caliber v
Way to bring back rage fuelled memories, anon.
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>>43455873

Who's going to fuck a girl with a monster arm?
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>>43455903
>We literally got only a third of the full story mode in SC5
>We didn't get travel shenanigans with Maxi, Xiba and Leixia
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>>43455878
Just cut it out and alchemy your way out of that problem.
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hi im 12 and what is this
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>>43456074
It's an Arab.
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>>43456085
No, she's Filipino.
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>>43455776
She also put part of her soul into her sword, because that's apparently the only way to get a whipsword to work. Anyway there's supposed to be a joke here about a celibate woman penetrating people with her artificial cock.
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>>43455903
At least we got Pyrrha Omega out of it right?
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>>43456207
Or at least releasing her tension with her domination tendencies in battle. Her signature throw is turning the enemy into a seat in the process of breaking their arm, after all.
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>>43455839
Pottery.
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>>43456246
Plus, she's the only character who consistently wears leather into combat.
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>>43455776
Is there any rationale for the outfit?
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>>43456289
Specifically, no; it just seems to mesh with her dominant tendencies. Plus, she's the only character who hails from England, so no one's actually going to call her out on it because maybe that's what people in England do or something. It should be noted that as P1 costumes go, Soul Calibur 5 Ivy (>>43456273) is the most conservative Ivy to date.
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>>43456267
Either way, he wants to fuck his mom.
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>>43456289
Not really, well the one arm being armored is due to her wrapping the whip around it, or catching the whip with it, so she doesn't cut herself. Also though I doubt the developers knew it, but the incredible amounts of cleavage in her outfits were actually a big part of the fashion at the time in England and France.
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>>43456411
>Also though I doubt the developers knew it, but the incredible amounts of cleavage in her outfits were actually a big part of the fashion at the time in England and France.

I think it's fair to say that the developers are experts on matters of cleavage, whether past, present, or future.
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>>43456411
>well the one arm being armored is due to her wrapping the whip around it, or catching the whip with it, so she doesn't cut herself.
Yeah, that's one of the consistencies in her outfit throughout the years: she always wears at least one armguard to protect herself while swinging her whipsword.
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>>43455788
>>43455839
Okay, so all that happens is Soul Edge finds a new host. You made it sound like Nightmare incarnates itself as an armored up demonloli and now I'm disappointed.
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>>43456273
What about Voldo?
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>>43456500
Nightmare was still a thing in SF5, but it was just some other dude who had Soul Edge for a time and lost it.
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>>43456523
What ABOUT Voldo?
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>>43456531
Yeah, but he never becomes Nightloli, hence my disappointment at your misleading summary of events.
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>>43456550
Oh Voldo, why you so creepy?
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>>43455873
Her brother.

What? The way they act around each other, it's pretty much out there like a siren. Like all of Patroklos' other freudian issues.
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>>43456226
>at least we got heavily implied incest right?
I wanted fucking story mode where I got to pick my character, how can a game that was one technological worse systems be better than a game on the then current generation?
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>>43456564
Because he's Italian?
That aside, literally, Voldo's entire motive for living is following the word of a now-dead merchant and guarding this pit full of money and treasures with his life.
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>>43456593
And he's like eighty years old.
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>>43456575
Everyone's pretty sure that Patroklos has an Oedipus complex and legitimately wants to fuck his mom Sophitia.
And his sister.
And aunt Cassandra, while we're at it.

>>43456600
According to the Soul Calibur wiki, 67 as of SC5.
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>>43456600
How the hell does he keep in shape for that damn long?

Can't imagine there's a lot to eat there in that treasure pit.
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>>43456600
He ages like wine, not fine wine mind you, wine that you popped open the barrel of and then left laying around until there was some sort of horrifically powerful vinegar there.
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>>43456632
I'm pretty sure the pit gets ransacked at least twice, so Voldo has enough excuse to get out and move around. It still doesn't entirely explain his freakish agility, but still.
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>>43456632
>>43456649
He does stretches. Lots and lots of stretches.
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>>43456663
Sure he does.
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>Ninja
>Professional demon hunter
>Professional blacksmith
>Loving teacher
>Knows how to handle her fucking business
And yet all anyone cares about is the skintight jumpsuit.
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>>43456888
Doesn't help they keep growing each time you see them.
Also doesn't help when the replacement is some washboard hip-gurl blondie.
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>>43456927
Who, for the record, has a demon sealed inside her Naruto-style, for which Taki feels personally responsible, hence her motherly teacher side. It doesn't help that Natsu has a known rebellion streak (except where Taki herself is concerned).

Still, I wouldn't call this a washboard.
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>>43456617
>Everyone's pretty sure that Patroklos has an Oedipus complex and legitimately wants to fuck his mom Sophitia.
>And his sister.
>And aunt Cassandra, while we're at it.

Who wouldn't
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>>43455057
>>43455453
I'd dig a Siegfried/Nightmare premise in 40k
CSM is all
>You know what? FUCK the ruinous powers, I'm out!
Chaos is all
>Aw hell no, we're getting that soul one way or another
Champion with a shiny new daemonblade is all
>swiggity swooty
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>>43456976
And I just now notice Natsu has her fucking nails done with pink and glitter and shit. What the fuck.
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>>43456983
Sophie is dead.
Pyrrha is corrupted by Soul Edge.
Cassie is literally - LITERALLY - lost in the nether trying to find Sophie's soul.
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>>43457054
Greeks, man

You don't be a Greek woman in anything remotely sexual or Japanese, it's like stacking multipliers for a Bad End both in and out of canon
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Stat soul calibur and soul edge.

And charade.
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>>43457009
She's like a California Mall Ninja.
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Stat me
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>>43457123
Both Calibur and Edge are legendary sentient weapons that can take whatever form their user desires. Both weapons are diametrically opposed to each other, one the icon of purity and the other the icon of corruption. Soul Edge is a cursed sword that corrupts its user in its ceaseless quest for more souls. Soul Calibur only cares about stopping Soul Edge, to the point that it will actually kill everyone on the planet so as to starve Soul Edge of souls.

Charade is I don't fucking know.
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>>43457166
>Boring Designs 8/10
>Cool Weapons 7/10

Wait is that the golem dude with axes? Man I haven't played one of these since the gamecube Link one.
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>>43457123
>>43457195
Charade is stack up all the character sheets you've ever filled out then pick one at random. Repeat every scene change.
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>>43457207
He was only in that one (SC2). It's Necrid, some sort of weird OC donut steel made for the game.
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>>43457207
No, that's Necrid, Todd McFarlane's original character who only showed up in Soul Calibur 2.

You're thinking of Astaroth when you say "giant axe-swinging golem."
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>>43457207
No. That's the dude with the shapeshifting weapons made of seizure effects that can't speak a lick of English...or Japanese. Made by the dude who made Spawn.
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>>43457009
She's a ninja gyaru.
>>43457128
More Tokyo.
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>>43457216
Charade is technically unkillable, unless you can kill the soul edge.
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>>43457225
Ohhhh yeah. Ok I remember now. Was that the one with the Night Terror? Or was that 3.
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>>43457272
Night Terror was 3.
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>>43457207
>>43457225
>>43457251
one of his costumes also was later used for Rick Taylor's design in the Splatterhouse remake.
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>>43457266
technically you can take the fragment can't you? He's just a walking soul edge fragment IIRC.
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>>43457266
From the Soul Calibur Wiki:
>Charade is the form of a man who is weary from war-torn lands and dreaming of adventure. He finds the legends of Soul Edge, and begins to find its fragments. He is eventually murdered by bandits who had heard a rumor circulating in the cities of a man overly-protective of his possessions. Still grasping the fragments, his corpse is thrown into a river. The blood from the hands forms around the fragments due to the man's tenacity to protect his precious fragments. This being seeks out to find more shards, so it can devour them and become whole. He eventually becomes part of the Soul Edge. Charade is able to scan minds of warriors it confronts, and then creates weapons out of its body to accommodate the fighting style it imitates. When the Soul Embrace was formed, Charade's power appeared to have weakened in response to Soul Edge's dormant state.
>In Soulcalibur IV, Nightmare summons the remaining fragments of Soul Edge to Ostrheinsburg Castle to become whole. Among them are the second Soul Edge created by Cervantes and fragments that have become half-living creatures, one of which might have been Charade.

In other words, Charade is a dude who turned into a Soul Edge-based construct before he was eventually eaten by Soul Edge itself.
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>>43456554
>disappointment
Welcome to Soul Calibur V!
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>>43457306
god damn the lore of this game is so purestrain arcade 90s retarded, it's fucking stupid and fucking great
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>>43457306
I wonder what charade would end up like if he was able to become whole.
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>>43457343
Meanwhile, I like how straightforward Mitsurugi's story is.
>Mercenary swordsman
>Realizes the advent of the gun will mean the end of his livelihood
>Challenges a rifleman to a duel to prove his worth
>Loses, badly
>Hears the legend of Soul Edge, a weapon so powerful it can defeat any gun
>Goes hunting for it
>Can't find it
>Says "fuck it" and challenges the rifleman again
>Wins
>Realizes that the weapon is not what's important, only who wields it
>Doesn't care about finding Soul Edge for himself anymore
>Now wants to be the strongest in the world
>Now just wanders and fights everyone just because
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>>43457513
I admit, his storyline gave me, a LONG time ago, my own idea for a stand alone setting of a world where the sword is still fighting a losing battle against the gun, because there are magic swords, less and less over time, the most powerful of which still rival guns in power. And guns came into being to END the tyranny of those swords.

Then I decided that was arcade trash tier stuff and stashed it away for later.
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>>43457513
And then he ends up becoming the arch-rival of an ancient not-Sumerian warrior king.
Who's responsible for making Soul Calibur.
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>>43457588
I knew Algol was behind the creation of Soul Calibur and Soul Edge, but I was not aware Mitsurugi was his rival.
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No need to try and stat me gentlemen I know I'm 10/10 across the board!!!
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>>43458390
Isn't this guy canonically the biggest fraud in the world?
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>>43457513
>can't find it
didn't he find it and say fuck it?
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>>43458445
He might've at one point much later on. But when he was actually looking for Soul Edge to claim it himself, his trail ran cold on different occasions. It doesn't help that Taki stymied him on a couple of occasions.
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>>43458445
>>43458473
There's also his (non-canon) Soul Calibur 2 ending: he finally finds Soul Edge, but feeling the immense evil radiating from it, he declares that there's no way this evil sword was the weapon he was looking for and promptly shatters it, leaving to go find the real Soul Edge.
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>>43458473
Yeah maybe i'm mixing both the canon and this >>43458497
I can see mitsurugi become a soul edge wielder in the future though. All the characters are being replaced by their younger descendants already. He'll get older and older and become more frail and at last accepts the sword's promise of unending power.
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>>43458528
He's already rejected Soul Edge by virtue of not needing it anymore. "The weapon means nothing, only the man wielding it," remember?
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>>43454900
Must be vorpal with all that edge.
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>>43456289
She likes to feel pretty but also be able to move around well.
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>>43458546
He was at his peak of power at the time. My prediction is he'll get the offer again when he's a frail old man on his deathbed but still with the burning desire to be the most powerful.
Though on the other hand, this is a samurai in a nip game. They probably want to preserve his image.
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>>43458581
Not even that. Mitsurugi is one of the faces of the Soul series as a whole. There are only four characters who have appeared in every mainline Soul game from Soul Edge/Blade onward:
>Mitsurugi
>Siegfried/Nightmare
>Cervantes
>Voldo
FUCKING VOLDO has perfect attendence in the series.
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>>43458652
>Japanese
>German
>Spanish
>Italian
One of these does not belong.
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>>43458733
Yeah, Franco was never actually part of the Axis, the pussy.
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>>43456550
for the longest time I played that game and never once questioned voldo's outfit. And then it dawned on me 2 years ago and my childhood shattered.
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>>43458783
It dawned on you that it's fucking retarded?

If you think it's a bondage thing because it has leather straps, you don't know enough about Italy.
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>>43456550

>Counting the blades equals out to four appendages on either side of his body
>He has a spider face on his crotch
>He enjoys fighting with his crotch forward and his back bent in horrific ways

That's actually kinda cool, it would certainly make me think twice about fighting him if all his attacks involved his Spider-face crotch coming at me.
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>>43455873
>2015
>Not fucking girls with monster arms
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>>43458811
That's what dissuades you? His fighting style?
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>>43458811
You now realize that Voldo's spider codpiece also looks like a horned mask biting a metal bar when you flip it.
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>>43458437
He is.

He's also the one who sold Pyrrha into slavery, so the entirety of SCV is his fault.
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>>43457343
I started playing Soulcalibur 2 a couple of weeks ago and the character bios are literally straight out of deviantart.
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>>43461536
Try explaining one for us. I want your perspective.
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>>43456289
The original one was used for alchemical rituals.

Why it got more and more slutty as time went on, I have no idea.
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>>43462148
At least the latest one has needles in the glove and shit.
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>>43458809
I think it dawned on him that the crotch is supposed to be a spider-head when Voldo is in his bridge-stance.
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>>43458296
They apparently manage to fight each other to a draw, and both felt like it was the most exhilarating fight they've had in a long time. So now, they're constantly keeping an eye out for each other to feel the rush of battle again.

Yeah, it's stupid.
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>>43461536
Remember the guest characters back when Yoda was in the game?
That was wild.
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>>43462304
I'm pretty sure the excuse given for Link/Spawn/Heihachi in SC2 was "time/dimension warp."
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>>43462304
Hey, I actually liked Kamikirimusi, she had a nice design.
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>>43462338
But remember the anime girls?
The elf girl?
The clockwork golem girl?
The girl that may have actually been from an anime?
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>>43462361
>The girl that may have actually been from an anime?
Algol was an anime reference. She's the sister of some girl from the anime with the frog (Captain Kero)?
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>>43462342
There was a demon swordswoman (pictured), an oni, an elf rendition of Scheherazade herself, a clockwork golem girl sent by the same cult who created Astaroth/Lizard Man to hunt down Astaroth, and a FUCKING ALIEN.
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>>43462361
>>43462414
Angol Fear is the sister of Angol Mois, meaning that the Soul Calibur universe shares the same universe as Keroro Gunsou.
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>>43462462
>Sister
Scratch that, cousin.
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>>43462445
She can shoot people by pointing her finger and saying bang.

Also, banned from tourneys because has better reach than Cervantes and no downsides.

Same for Scherezade/Amy (although I think Sche also had a bigger hurtbox).
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MEANWHILE, VAMPIRES
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>>43462681
That was basically character assassination, to say nothing about the fact that the original SC2 version remains the version that is the least shit gameplay-wise to this day.
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>>43462462
Angol Fear always bothered me, since all the other Donut Steel characters were at least somewhat out of the comfort zone for the artists involved, but Yoshzaki Mine just ported a character wholesale from Keroro Gunso.
I mean, even fucking Necrid, awful though he may be, is at least somewhat unique.
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>>43462710
The only thing that sucks about 3 onwards is that some of the characters feel like their in the wrong games. ie Natsu should've been in 4, SC4-Taki should've been 5, SC-5 Kilik is pointless, etc

>>43462462
>That weapon design is still one of my favourites
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>>43462710
>original SC2 version remains the version that is the least shit gameplay-wise to this day.
Even then, it wasn't that good.
However, you could SEE the potential, if the devs used real life fencing as the base, rather than acrobatics and Olympic fencing, and made him more about dexterous blows and voids/parries rather than the silly mess he was.
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>>43462820
Angol Fear isn't ported, though. Literally, her first appearance was SC4, THEN she appeared in the Keroro Gunsou manga. If anything, Fear was ported TO Keroro Gunsou, not from.
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>>43462834
Also, cut it out with the slashing.
Seriously, who slashes with a rapier?
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There are many possible arguments to be made for either SC2 or 3 being the best one in the series, but which one is the worst? Both SC4 and 5 have so much wrong with them, but both are awful in completely different directions...
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>>43456379
I'd argue that her original is moreso.
SC 5 is just about the same, just more ornate and with a man's short coat that only serves to highlight her ass, not cover it.
It has subtle sex appeal based on the tease, and it works so well.
>belle chere
>if you haven't seen it, google belle chere scv
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>>43462864
With a rapier? Anyone who wants. They are not foils you know, they most often have a cutting edge. To say nothing about the definition of rapier being actually quite nebulous and ranging from some pretty heavy saber-like swords to to the thin needle stuff.

But anyway, his SC2 gameplay was really good, and also had a lot of hidden depth for high levels (although his low level gameplay was kinda braindead).

That's basically SC2 in a nutshell tho, peak of the series gameplay-wise basically.
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>>43462889
3 was a technical nightmare, even as a baby casual basement warrior I knew it was completely busted. It had a nice story mode and some extra features, but it's wasn't that good of a fighter.
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>>43462932
yeah okay
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>>43462864
If you pay attention to Raphael's rapier, it isn't a fencing one, it has an actual edge. It's actually a rather thick rapier for that matter.

All this "rapiers are for thrusting!" stuff is silly, most rapiers were entirely capable of slashing and cutting, they were typically too small to have enough mass behind it to make it as effective as thrusting, though. They were perfectly valid for chopping however. Using non-fencing rapiers a quick cut to the hand or arm is a very common tactic, and can very easily cripple someone in that regard.
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>>43455873
Have_you_forgotten_where_you_are.sneeringdevil
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>>43462932
>>43462969
YEAH OKAY
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>>43462853
By ported I meant her being part of a previously established race from another series and functionally a slightly altered clone of a character from said series to boot. A series which is fundamentally different from SC, I might add.
That might have worked for Kentaro Miura, if he decided to just bring over Guts' long-lost brother, but with Keroro Gunso it doesn't really work.
I should have clarified that more, I suppose.
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>>43457054
>f
What happened to Sophitia?
I stopped trying to follow the "story" in 3. I just know Sophitia's dead, sexy crazy once was green and cute crazy now in brown lederhosen and not so cute is dead, and half the cast is gone, replaced by dullards.
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>>43462889
>>43462940

3 more or less killed the series with how terrible it was for anyone but the most casual. 4 was respectable aside from Hilde, 5 is literally half a game and I'm disgusted at SC having meters and supers.
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>>43457588
>>43458296
>>43462291
Ah, Japan, you must have your super jap somewhere in your games.
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>>43463017
When Taki and Sophitia destroyed part of Soul Edge at the end of the original game, a shard of Soul Edge lodged inside her and couldn't be removed without killing her. Then she had her two kids Pyrrha and Patroklos. Because the shard was stuck in her body, Pyrrha was exposed to Soul Edge's power in the womb. After they were born, Pyrrha was kidnapped and revealed to be bound to Soul Edge; if the sword is destroyed, Pyrrha dies. With this, Sophie is blackmailed into protecting Soul Edge, the same weapon she swore a divine oath to destroy.
>In the end, Siegfried managed to defeat Nightmare, and Sophitia had to sacrifice her life in order to save Pyrrha's, by transplanting her last Soul Edge shard in her daughter's body. In doing so, Sophitia died in order so that her daughter may live.

Sophitia is an honest-to-God tragic character because a core component of her character (her daughter) was used to orchestrate her own downfall. It's great.
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>>43463017
That's about it, really. The new male lead character is lusting after his mother Sophitia, the female lead (his sister) is a 'so awkward, so clumsy' moeblob, Taki was replaced by her valleygirl ninja, most of the interesting cast is dead or retired and Soul Calibur is just as much of an asshat as Soul Edge is.
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>>43462991
Who did Kentaro Miura create?
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>>43463126
Also, nice tits.

But I can't shake the feeling that going from her original incarnation to lady *hugetits in transparent gown-thing crying* has to be someones depowerment fetish fuel on the artist team.
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>>43462935
>>43462975
I mean that Raph had BIG, SLOW WIDE SWINGS with a rapier that fucking Siegfried would point and laugh at.
Add to it that his thrusts were either sorta quick and weak, or on the slow/predictable side and average damage (Taki was better with speed and damage), he had less range than Mitsurugi, his stances were generally hot garbage, his parries were enemic, his strikes on the whole were predictable unless you were OUTRAGEOUSLY good... and this was at his best. Like I said, he had so much potential, I really wanted him to be the new Nightmare.
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>>43462969
Ugh, sweetheart, too much shop, especially at the hips.
>>43462986
Yeah, nigga, now you know.
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>>43463126
>>43463172
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>>43463126
>at the end of the original game, a shard of Soul Edge lodged inside her and couldn't be removed
Is soul edge the reason her tits eventually overtook her head in size?
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>>43463017
>sexy crazy once was green and cute crazy now in brown lederhosen and not so cute is dead
Wait, what happened to Tira? Last I remember, Tira was the one who kidnapped Pyrrha and guided her down the path to the dark side.
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>>43463166
No one. What >>43462991 meant was that the guy made a character entirely in his art style that clashed INCREDIBLY hard with SC's art style. Miura's art style would mesh, with some adjustments, very well with SC, while Kerou's just doesn't in any capacity.
>>43462986
Yea, now post some Tira.
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>>43463173
Well, he was linear (as in easy to sidestep) but otherwise he had some really good pokes and mid-low game.

If the game was based on arcade ver. C, his BB would have covered his sides even.

As for the stances, they actually have quite a few uses, especially for mixups, especially-especially high levels once you get into Soul Charge Cancel cancelling.

The built in parries had the advantage of not being 2g cancellable too, so there's that (tho they are obviously hard to use).

By the time that was discovered the game was pretty old tho, and SC3 was looming on the horizon, and Raph being a naturall low-mid tier character didn't get much play.
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When they started dumping in all the cameo fighters as a cheap gimmick is when the series really started to go downhill
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>>43463245
Oh, also, lest not forget that the B+G throw was ridiculously good.
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>>43463126
What? No! NO!
So she fucking saved her daughter, killed herself, and utterly damned her daughter in the process?
>>43463159
Who else is dead/gone? I know Tira was killed by Nightmare in 4, >>43463208.
That outfit had potential, but ugh, honest to god lederhosen on a slav?
I know real old country Bavarian's who would be offended at the thought.
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SC3 Nightmare is best Nightmare, head wings a shit

Also best voice
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>>43463298
>utterly damned her daughter

She gets over it at the end of SCV.
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>>43463312
you waifu a shit!

But at least you didn't say SC4 nightmare and his shirt of carrots.
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>>43463253
You mean 2?
>>43463285
Yeah, it was.
>>43463245
A little bit of work and some dedication and he would have been a great example of rapier work in games. I loathe the lost potential. It's like they didn't even give a shit about attempting to make a decently balanced game.
That said, I liked Zasalamel, and he vanished, ne'er to return.
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>>43463316
Anon just said she's fully possessed at the end of SCV?
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>>43463342
You got a problem with it? Soul Calibur 2 is the third game in the franchise, more than enough time for things to start going downhill.
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>>43463342
Zas was cool.

>>43463361
Yes, but then she shakes it off shortly before the very end of the game to save her brother from being frozen in an icecube by Soul Calibur.
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>>43463298
>I know Tira was killed by Nightmare in 4
According to the wiki, Tira was extremely active in SC5 and, in fact, is arguably the biggest reason why Pyrrha became the new owner of Soul Edge. All the machinations surrounding Soul Edge in 4 (including blackmailing Sophie in >>43463126) and 5 were all Tira's idea, the split-personality bitch.
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>>43463368
It was the peak.

Technically, that's exactly when things _start_ to go down hill.

Although SCI was an equally good game, if not better in some respects
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>>43463373
>Yes, but then she shakes it off shortly before the very end of the game to save her brother from being frozen in an icecube by Soul Calibur.
AND THEN THEY FUCK
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>Sophie's daughter becomes the new host of Soul Edge
>Meaning no Nightmare if SC6 were to ever happen

Welp, the Azure Knight replaced by greek waifu: darkness edition.
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>>43463375
So the fuck happens to her?
>>43463391
Wincest?
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>>43463391
>oniisama cubes!
>for lonely imoutos
>5 minutes in the oven, or a few whack with a hellfire empowered demonic sword that may feast on your soul, and you can have your very own incestous husbando
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>>43463420
If there ever is going to be an SC6, it better be a prequel/reboot/side story, because at this point like 80% of the characters are basically unsalvagable.
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>>43463449
After Pyrrha claims Soul Edge, Tira straight-up leaves. She did her job and found a perfect host for Soul Edge.
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>>43463533
>tries to combine SC3 and SC4 outfits
>somehow is worse than either
Goddammit, you had ONE JOB.
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>>43463196
Well, she was a mother from SC2 onward. That milk has to come from somewhere.
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>I wanna bang you, Kilik.
>I wanna bang you too, Xianghua. I really do. But...
>But?
>But you look and remind me too much of my foster sister who I had to kill when she sacrificed herself to protect me from the evil seed.
>Oh...shit...sorry, man.
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always wanted to run a game set to the souls verse. just wasn't sure what system to use. thought about using Riddle of Steel but that just gets to rules heavy. i wanted something with an emphasis on 1v1 combat
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>>43463883
Well, they did bang ONCE.
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>>43463939
Then Xianghua leaves, marries a Ming general, and has a daughter. She now travels together with Xiba, Maxi and Natsu.
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>>43463935
Obviously, Street Foghter II: the fighting game RPG by Whitewolf

I have the very basics of a system brewed that's based on SC. I'd do a writeup if you want.
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>>43464152
If you'd like to sure. Im always up for reading others homebrew work. wouldn't happen to have a pdf of the SFII game your talkin about?
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>>43464175
Nope, but it's also kinda terrible... although not a bad seed for a game, if you want to brew.

Short intro to the system:
>your actions are on cards (each card holds 2 actions)
>you both play a card (or cards, see later) face down then flip it up at the same time
>results depend on cards flipped; there are attacks, movement
>some moves are slower on startup or recovery, giving a modifier to the next move; you may get such a great advantage that you can play a quick move without the opponent even having time to react
>you may make special moves/strings/combos by playing multiple cards in order; depending on card type this results in the move(s) taking a shorter time than if you played the individual parts.
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>>43464318
I'll make a PDF of the current cards, but I have to translate the existing ones to English. Used them for playtesting a bit, worked out pretty well.
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>>43457558
I........ I like it :(
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>>43464629
I agree, it's kinda neat. Dunno if it lends itself very well to a pen&paper rpg, but a Platinum Games-style spectacle fighter? Hell yeah, I'd play that.
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Wasn't there a /tg/-organized plot some time ago where Talim somehow ends up as a live-in maid with Ivy, and the two play their characters off each other? Talim is the young optimistic girl who is convinced she can find the goodness in Ivy's heart, while Ivy seeks to explain the realities of the world to Talim and protect her from them one way or another. It was actually rather sweet, thinking about it.
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>>43456531
>>43456500
>>43455788
>>43455654
SCV Nightmare was Raphael. When he got his ass kicked, the sword latched on to Pyrrha and fucked her up

>>43456976
>>43457009
>>43457262
Natsu a best
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>>43466075
*Implied to be* Raphael.
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>>43456289

Based on the character creation options, her combat outfit is underwear. So presumably some of the more out there versions are just what Ivy wears under her normal clothes and for some reason Project Soul thought we didn't want to see her doing action dress rips.
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>>43466434
Ivy dramatically shredding a ball gown with her whip-sword into her trademark leathers is quite a sight, I'd imagine.
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>>43462304

I actually really liked Ashlotte. It's a shame they can never use her again because she's a guest artist character or something.

And hell, at this point Shura has a better reason to have Cervantes's move list than Cervantes does, since he lost all his powers but can still somehow fucking teleport.
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>>43466530
Cervantes is the one with a hidden pistol in his dagger, though.
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>>43465760

Yes, I was there. I contributed to that thread quite a lot, I really liked that concept. I feel like Ivy and Talim would have been perfect foils, but they never interacted in canon.

I am so fucking salty Talim didn't make the cut to V. I wanted to see what she looks like in her early thirties.
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>>43466630
Unfortunately, Talim would've lost her main "charm points" in the process.
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>>43466630
Where was that thread? I can't seem to find it in the archives.
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>>43466791

I got ya, bro.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/35420313/
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First for yoshimitsu best character
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>>43466891
>Face-grab attack in SC2
>Starts throwing Tekken moves like King's jumping hammer fist
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>>43466934
I was always partial to the <- + A spin of doom
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>>43455776
repression does a hell of a number on someones sexuality.
I'm sure if you never fucked a thing in your life you'd be into whipping the shit out of things with a metal dick replacement too.
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>>43455741
>He was just a suit of armor moved around by the sword's magic in 3 and 4.

Isn't it kind of a crucial plot point that soul edge needs a wielder to feed it souls? If it can move about on it's own, what's the point?
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You know, with some of the background notes they never really go into in the main game, Soul Calibur's universe might make for a fascinating setting.

>>43467191

It was a desperation move after the sword itself was sealed to let Inferno try to free itself. The empty-armor nightmare is inherently unstable and can't survive very long without a host.

It's indicated but never directly stated that Soul Edge also needs a human mind to shape its desires. In III Nightmare is all right but by IV it has basically devolved into a beast driven solely by hunger, and is falling apart as Tira tries to find it a new host.

Nightmare in V demonstrates that he's much stronger and smarter with a human body, and not at risk of imploding into nothing.
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>>43466995
>spin of doom

That's shit's weak compared to Astaroth's hooking opponents with his axe and spinning before catapulting them into the air.
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>>43467247
>Evil Seed spilling all over the world, turning people crazy
>Countless rumors and legends surrounding a mythical weapon that grants untold power
>Everyone is gunning for it
>Otherwise trying to survive in a Renaissance-era world filled with cults, monsters, magic, alchemy, world-destroying weapons, and countless dozens of wandering martial artists
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>>43467247
Yeah, I liked SC 3 Nightmare because he was tant amount to "ghost but not really"
What with the "phantom soul edge" and what not.

Honestly I think SC 3 was my favorite lore wise because everything felt so dramatic while still being willing to do goofy shit like

"In this ending, Astaroth turns into a giant green Kaiju that's leaking souls"
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>>43467309

Add on the fact that the malfestation thing means you have plot hooks like fucking inquisitions hunting them, people with supernatural powers or just infection from the sword's energy being mistaken for monsters/warlocks...

Oh, and the whole thing how pagan gods are real in Alternate Renaissance Europe. There's fun to be had there.
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>>43463782
Forgetting her sister would also be a sin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc4JQxhpI9k
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>>43466309
break the armor off in a fight, its absolutely raphael
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>>43466826
Yeah, now I remember that thread. That was good times.
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>>43467768

I like the notion of hypocritical big sister Ivy.

>"Absolutely not. I can see right through those pants, girl, you are not walking around in those! We're getting you something proper to wear at the next town!"
>"But you're–!"
>"I'm twice your age and know what I'm doing, young lady. Do as I say, not as I do."
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>>43467841
>Is it always cold and rainy here in England?
>You get used to it. It helps that I don't get out very much.
>You? But you're so, ehm, shapely and beautiful.
>You flatter me, girl, but I'm quite content with the life of a hermit. Fewer people I have to explain my...situation to. Besides, I'm not very sociable.
>...I never thought I would experience an entire country as dreary as you are.
>...
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>>43467309
id so be down for a game like that.
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>>43457513
>gunshot scar in shoulder

Bullets never hit a protagonist in any other area.
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>>43467841
>>43468107

>Ah! Ivy, it moved! This thing is alive!
>Oh, that. I made it a while back in Prague. Don't pay it any mind, it's not much more than a jellyfish. It doesn't even have a brain, it just jiggles.
>I see...what do you call it?
>Taki.
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>>43455839
I couldn't understand why Elysium dresses so skimpy. If you saw your mother in such clothing, how would you react?
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>>43468958
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>>43469072
Well, my mom's not a bangin'-hot Greek holy warrior with fair skin, blond hair and heaving breasts, so that's a loaded question. Besides, Elysium takes the form of the person the wielder is most comfortable with.
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>>43468958
Wasn't that a plot point that Taki would be watching over the pairing and consistently getting the wrong idea about what's happening?
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What's the beef between Ivy and Taki? I know nothing about the lore or their conflict aside from SCII's opening cinematic.
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>>43469786
Nothing specific. What is know is that Taki beat Ivy in SC1, and that Taki was Ivy's rival battle until you unlocked Cervantes. It also doesn't help that Ivy is Cervantes's biological daughter, and Taki had a direct hand in bringing the dread pirate down at one point.
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>>43469786
>>43469893
So I suppose you could say Taki was keeping an eye on Ivy to make sure she doesn't end up "like father, like daughter."
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>>43467191
It can't do that normally. Inferno needed the help of an ancient and powerful wizard to move its mind into the Nightmare armor, and its body is slowly falling apart as the spell fades.

Said wizard was immortal and wanted to draw out both Soul Edge and Soul Calibur so he could combine their powers and use them to kill himself. If something goes wrong in the process he turns into this.
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>>43470289
If something goes even more wrong then Nightmare hijacks the ritual and absorbs the completed forms of both swords into itself, becoming this.
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>>43470409
That's a bit much, don't you think?
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>>43464318
That sounds a lot like the Fighting Card Game, Yomi*.

*Yomi is the japanese word for reading the mind of your opponent
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>>43467841
Cue an ensuing argument about how Ivy doesn't love herself enough and is a miserable wretch because she's convinced she doesn't have a future.
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>>43466434
This is going to be my explanation for all my super slutty character designs.

Overly ornate outfits that get shed for undergarments as soon as a fight starts.
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>>43466434
>bitchy suburban mom haircut

Take it away.
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>>43472913
It's just a vanity portrait. Ivy's actual hair is closer-cropped than that.
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>>43469557

I seem to recall something like that, yeah. Taki gets the wrong idea when Ivy brings Talim home with her.

>>43472107

A bright, charming, and optimistic girl with magical powers befriends a dark, melancholy badass woman, probably learning from her and teaching her to enjoy life again in the process? I'd watch/play it.
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>>43475166
Is that the kid Raphael fostered? Don't fucking tell me that she's a playable character.
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>>43475556
Correct on both accounts. In SC3, she was a playable bonus character. In SC4, she became a mainline character. The wiki fluffs her as the anti-Talim: both are young girls, but Amy is ruthless and callous, swearing allegiance to no one except her foster father Raph.
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>>43475556
In 3 and 4. She's basically him with slightly altered moves.

She may also be a fortuneteller with a magic floating crystal ball weapon in 5.
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>>43475556

She was playable in IV, after she and Raphael turned into vampires.

She was significantly better than Raphael.
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>>43475629
>Spoiler
From the wiki:

>The new character Viola bears an uncanny resemblance to her and, coincidentally, has no memory of her past. Notably, Amy and Viola share many thematic elements of their designs as well as both of their voice actors. Many speculate that Viola is, in fact, Amy, although this has not been confirmed in-game in any way, nor officially by Project Soul.
>Some fans made conclusions that Amy and Viola are twins, mainly because of their similar facial appearance and similar auditory references. However, Amy has made no mentions about her having another sibling before she met Raphael and because Viola has amnesia, she may not remember if she had siblings or didn't have siblings. However, Viola's amnesia still leads to speculations of the two being the same person or being twin sisters. Also, determining by Raphael's actions towards Viola when fighting her, he may have some clue about the woman.
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>>43475660

I do have to wonder about that, though. It seems like Viola's either too old or too young to be Amy.

She's visibly older than Amy was when she got super-malfested, which should have stopped her biological clock, but if Amy DID age naturally she should be older than Viola.
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DON'T MIND ME
JUST GONNA RUN AWAY FROM HOME
AGAIN
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>>43467052
>if you never fucked a thing in your life
'if', huh.
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>>43473075
>mfw I now realized where my MILF and mature women fetish comes from.
thanks Namco
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>>43477826
Ivy can do that to you.
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>>43454900
I'll stat him before i go.
CLIMATE/TERRAIN: Any
FREQUENCY: Very Rare
ORGANIZATION: Solitary
ACTIVITY CYCLE: Any
DIET: Nil
INTELLIGENCE: Genius (17-18)
TREASURE: Nil
ALIGNMENT: Chaotic Evil
# APPEARING: 1
ARMOR CLASS: 0
MOVEMENT: 12
HIT DICE: 9d10
THAC0: 11
# OF ATTACKS: 1
DAMAGE/ATTACK:1d10+4
SPECIAL ATTACKS: See Below
SPECIAL DEFENSES: See Below
MAGIC RESISTANCE: 75% (see below)
SIZE: M (6'-7' tall)
MORALE: Fanatic (17)
XP VALUE: 6000
it's not an owlbear.
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>>43475714
Vampire magic is bullshit.
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>>43462864

Spanish school of rapiers were mainly focused on cutting/slashing rather than thrusting. Plenty of differing schools of thought on the matter.
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>>43475649
Raphael wasn't already a vampire?
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>>43466075
>>43466309
>>43467433
And so it came to be.
Everything I wanted.
In the worst possible way.
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>>43472087
I took inspiration from it, yes. Bumping the thread so I'll have more time for PDF.
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>>43458390
dude that's the cutest henchman I've ever seen
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>>43481203
Not in SC2 he wasn't.

That was after beating up Nightmare, stabbing Soul Edge dead in the eye and getting some nasty cuts from it blowing up.

THEN he became a Vampire.
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