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How do you think about MinMaxing?

>Does it create unnecessary arms race between DM and Player?
>Is it ok because it does not always harm RPing?
>Or it can be bad because of imbalance between minmaxed players and non-minmaxed players?
>Maybe minmaxing is a must because it harms other players when you become a burden?
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>>45024716
A must if my group wants me to run a meat grinder.

Forbidden if they wanted to play a relaxed game or want to try out a module.
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>>45024716
Minmaxing is fine if all the player are experienced with an experienced DM and that is how they enjoy the game by demonstrating mastery of the system.

If there are many inexperienced players in the party, especially if the DM is inexperienced, then it should be kept to a minimum. Minmaxed players can easily take over a game.
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>>45024716
First, OP, there is a difference between min-maxing and optimizing.
When you know the difference between the 2 and how they are different from video games, you will have answered your own question.

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I feel blue edition

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First Question: Why are Trollkin so cute?

Better Question: A shop near me if have a sale on it's on Trollbloods stuff. What would better to get? The new Kriel Warriors box set (Comes with 10 warriors, plus 2 of those pillar throwing guys) or a box 3 Long Riders (I already have one from a blister pack, so I would need one more to make a full set.)
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>>45024513
Well it's up to you what you would use more. The kriel warriors are good, but with the warder nerf the long riders may see more play as the hard hitting unit.
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Like, how does this shit work?

For instance, in the forgotten realms campaign book two examples given of cases where you would worship gods other than your patron god were:
1. You're a good sailor praying to the evil goddess of the sea, which I can see working since evil has no obligation to uphold anything.
2. You're an evil thief that prays to the good goddess of luck before trying to steal something... what the fuck? Why would this ever work?

Jesus, each time I try to look at D&D in a different light it always manages to go full retard. How are there people that can actually play games in this broken ass shit?
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The Forgotten Realms is a clusterfuck.
The DMG p much outright states to use the bits and pieces that make your game fun.
And the Pantheon is not something that will make or break a game.
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Maybe they're thinking like that scene in the Mummy where the guy just keeps going through holy symbols until something works

But as for your question most people just don't give a shit about alignments
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>polytheism
>you can only have one patron god
That's not how polytheism works

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Is AD&D 2e any good? Thought it might be fun to try since my group is getting a little bored of 5e.
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>>45023903
2nd ed is by far the best edition.
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>>45023903
2eAD&D is my absolute favorite. What do you want to know?
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>>45023903
Walt Whitman? I smoked weed with Walter Whitman. Walter Whitman and Sload Kettering.

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I need to ask you guys a question, but first I need to tell you a tale

>Running a campaign with a group online
>Party includes a Paladin, a Fighter, a Bard, and a Rogue
>They corner a villain in a brothel
>Paladin tells the others he will interrogate her alone, since he actually has higher charisma than the bard
>Sends others outside to keep watch
>Locks the door to the room
>Pal: "I want to roll intimidate"
>Me: "Okay, what do you say?"
>Pal: "I want to tell her if she doesn't talk, I'll rape her
>Nobody says a word, and I'm just staring
>Me: "No, fuck you, that's evil you can't rape someone."
>Pal: "I'm not going to rape her, I'm just going to threaten to rape her so she'll talk."
>Me: "No! You're lawful good, you can't rape someone!"
>Pal: "I'm not! I'm just bluffing!"
>I ask the Bard his opinion
>Bard: "Well, I mean that is a bluff check."
>Thanks dick
>Me: "No, you can't threaten to rape her. That's still evil."
>Pal: "Fine. Then I change my roll, I want to grapple."
>Me: "You can't rape her!"
>Pal: "I'm not! Does it succeed or not?"
>Me: "Yeah, she's pretty weak."
>Pal: "Okay, I'm gonna rip her clothes and tell her to talk or else."
>Me: "You cannot fucking threaten to rape a person!"
>Pal: "What, because she's a woman? If it was a man you'd think it was funny."
>Me: "No I wouldn't, and you can't do this, stop being an ass!"
>Pal: "Guys, is this more evil than threatening someone with execution? Or prison? I'm not going to do it, so it's not evil."
>They legitimately can't decide who's right
>I put my foot down and tell him none of it is happening

Am I crazy? Was it me? I have to know
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>>45023735
Your pally friend has an interesting moral compass... in character and out of character...
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>>45023735
You're right, OP. This is why threatening to kill/hurt people is still illegal, whether or not you actually do any of it.
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So if I imply that I'm going to donate a lot of money to charity and not do it is it still morally right? If anything the act of threatening rape is not nearly as bad as rape itself. I'd say why the fuck not.

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Can Paladins love?
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>>45022757
Depends on the setting as always.

But I don't see why not in my games. As long as it doesn't distract from their holy duties.
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>>45022757
Of course

They love their God's with all their being
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>>45022757
No, they can only smite.

They have a hard life.

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Pathfinder General /pfg/

"Painted creation" Paizo-official template updated to PC race when?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/53QiHfcU

Old Thread: >>45015563
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First for fuck off, touhoufag.
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http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/classes/soulknife#TOC-Bonus-Feat

>The soulknife may choose Power Attack, Two-Weapon Fighting, or Weapon Focus (mind blade) as a bonus feat at 1st level.

Can I take Power Attack as my bonus feat even if I lack Str 13?
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>>45021792
No, you need to meet the prerequisites unless the ability states otherwise.

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Do you guys have any more good metal suggestions? Pic related
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>>45021523

But metal is shit

Why would you hurt yourself listening to it
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>>45021570
but muh warhammer
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>>45021523
D-Rok? They were under the same Warhammer Records label for a while I belive, but are very different from Bolt Thrower.

They are so only made one album, which is sad

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>player tells you his character backstory
>good stuff
>"Oh, my character's name? Yeah, it's L'gatsh'fa'gf'rr'dssa'sssaa'"
>"I just used a name generator online"

DM thread
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>>45021382
>Me: Alright, what did you want to make
>Him: I wanted to play a girl this campaign
>Me: Do you have art so I can make a token?
>Him: Yeah just gimme a sec to upload it
>Pic related
>Me:...No, man.
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>>45021382
>"Great! What can we all call him in short?"
>"Oh! How about Gash? Like my fursona?"
...?
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>>45021382
>It appears we've rolled, uh, five criticals all within a few rolls of one another. Huh!

How do I tastefully add romantic interests/ relations to my campaigns?
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>>45021279
Just don't fetishize it or make it overtly lewd. Other than that as long as you don't go crazy with it that's fine.
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>>45021279
Get into the mindset. Imagine yourself being romantically interested in the character. But don't be a weirdo.
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>>45021279
>>45021336
Forgot to say. As for the individuals themselves, just have the romancer show up or spend time with the romancee and hopefully try to show chemistry between them. Don't take over any current plot points, just have it build in the background. Or in the foreground if everyone at the table is cool with it. Point I'm stumbling around is don't force it and let it develop on its own.

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Ive recently had the itch to start playing mtg again after 1.5 years of not playing. There's no way I am gonna waste money on standard, and I have 2 modern decks, but I want to try and break into legacy. just browsing some content the other day I came across this list:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/legacy-nic-fit-by-caleb-d/
And here's Caleb D going 4-0
http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/channel-calebd-legacy-nic-fit/

I own almost all expensive cards in this deck besides the bayou's (ill use the shocks) + 1 or 2 fetches. So I was wondering if someone with knowledge of legacy could tell me if this deck can be viable if i took it to the weekly legacy event at my lgs? Or if there are any updates that should be made to this deck? I know that it can be better if ran as a W/B/G build but I dont have the money to shell out for that right now. Thanks to anyone who read this.
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>>45020925
Looks good to me. See if your LFGS lets you run some proxies for legacy, most do which will make it a lot easier to play and try out stuff. Was surprised by the courser, I personally prefer oracle of mul daya.

>Building, playing, hating, hoping for, modern vs legacy, etc
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At an FNM Nic Fit will serve you just fine. That's a list from before Dig Through Time got banned, so it's a little out of date. Its good against aggro, alright against control, but combo is going to be tough.
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>>45021001
Yeah i think oracle is better too but i think the idea is courser can be gsz'd out for cheaper and survives bolt. How bad is it to run shocklands in legacy over og duals?

>>45021028
I was thinking about combo as well, since i dont have much legacy experience, im under the assumption that every deck is gonna try and go off on turn 2. For the sideboard against combo i was definitely thinking about thoughtseize and mindbreak trap. Thoughts on that?

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In a fortnight my group is starting a One Piece adventure using M&M as the system.

I'm planning on using a Longlimb Tribe character, with his unique quirk being that he has both triplejointed arms and legs due to his mixed parentage, but I'm stumped on what sort of fighting style or techniques he should utilise.

I feel like with his extra joints contortion and double-jointed circus flexibility is a given, but that's not a fighting style. Any suggestions /tg/?
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>>45020571
Judo, maybe? Use the long and flexible limbs to trip and flip opponents.
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>>45020571
If he can roll up his arm with ease, you can make him toss things like a trebuchet.
If you're looking for more close range fighting though, you could use his arms like flails. Make a moveset around spinning things like wheels and windmills.
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>>45020571
Nothing but elbow and knee strikes. One of his attacks should be forming into a diamond and just dropping or spinning into someone.

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How is everyone enjoying the Aggro vs Ulamog meta? What side are you on?
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I'm feeling pretty good with my mains of turbofog and eggs
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>>45019115
Are there any good removal spells like this NOT in black?

I'm running Bant with a red splash for my deck and was hoping for something like this but splashing black isn't something I'm keen on
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>>45019233
Do you want hard removal or token removal?

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>D&D 5e, new campaign
>Be Sorcerer
>DM starts us imprisoned in a bandit camp, breaking out
>No starting items
>so no components or focus to cast spells with
>Spend entire session being yelled at by the DM-encouraged murder hobos for not being eager to throw myself out there with my 7 HP and get killed, and for attempting to be helpful in ways other than throwing myself out there and getting killed
>Be laughed at for half of session for what my character did (I used a verb with multiple connotations and the DM enthusiastically narrated the rest over my protesting)
>Throughout dungeon, collect small samples of everything, bits of hay lining box, bits of wood from box, unlit torch, bits of a wool shirt, etc.
>Suddenly, an enemy appears, taking potshots with a crossbow from behind a door.
>Have Shield and Shocking Grasp
>Time to finally be useful
>Confidently walk up to door and grab knob
>DM: "You are kicked back from the door for (rolls) 5 damage."
>Me: "Oh, no, I have Shield, it activates automatically."
>DM: "No, that doesn't happen because you're surprised."
>Me: "No, I walked up to the door confidently precisely because I had Shield."
>DM: "If you were expecting to use Shield you would have said so before you did it, but you didn't. You're surprised."
>Murderhobo A: "DM's discretion!"
>Spend entire battle behind cover with 2 HP
>At one point, sort of berserker type of PC is standing right in front of boss
>It's my turn, berserker guy goes next
>Cast Minor Illusion, "GOTCHA MOTHERFUCKER" from behind the boss to distract him
>DM: "You need spell components for that."
>The spell component for Minor Illusion is 'a bit of fleece'
>I collected wool from wool shirt earlier
>DM: "... Alright."
>got an impressed murmur from the rest of the party
>mfw

Berserker missed anyways. But it was nice while it lasted.
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Well you should have taken eschew materials. That's a feat in 5e right?
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>>45016972
Nope. Also if you're level 1 you don't get a feat unless you're playing a variant human or the DM allows em.
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>>45016935
>Be playing in gestalt game in hybrid 3.5/Pathfinder/3rd party resource monstrosity of epic proportions. Be Artificer 5, Wizard 4, and Psion1. Gestalt level five, but the best traits from level 5 in artificer, level 4 in wizard, and level 1 in psion. This means I have hella-many spells, infusions, and minor psychic powers.
>There's no challenge to anything but it's funny what you can become capable of at suitably high levels. I attacked Asmodeus's avatar at level eight because I had gotten my grubby mitts on all sorts of ridiculous bullshit.
>One such turd entailed a scroll with Stasis as cast by a level 30 sorcerer who was spec'd for affecting gods. I could cast it becuz human Artificer level 8 stacked with all sorts of ridiculous feats allowed because we were playing in a game where we had access to 3rd party resources and we could even get pretty much anything we custom made ourselves approved by the DM.
>Pop enough spells, psi powers, and magical item abilities to augment my touch attack, AC, and saves to stupid levels. Roll touch attack, get natural seventeen. Add mods, Asmodeus rolls Wills save and Fort save and fails both. I now have frozen the King of Hell in the middle of a battleground.
>Finish off opposition and open a gate to Bahamut's plane, offer him custody of Asmodeus. He accepts in utter shock, we laugh our asses off and leave after jacking everything of value from underground cult temple we were in.

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> HHG FAQ - http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8 (embed)

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> 30k Xenos Homebrew - https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Xenos_in_30k

Imperial Fists Best Legion, Iron Warriors go Home Edition
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What's your preferred method of dealing with Primarchs?

Would a Typhon backed up by melee-oriented units do the trick? Thinking about countering deathstars with the Dreadhammer pie plate and a unit of 10 Dark Furies.

> First for Corax
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>>45016953
XIX highfive

I blow up the spartan with a bunch of grav dreads or a lighting with turbokrakens so the pod of seekers with combiplas that landed next to them cuts them to ribbons along with the rest of the army.

>>45016405
Looked like in all ways to me.

I remember thinking how it might have been interesting as a story in the fluff. But copying then like that for the game was a slap to the face. Then they had to make better phalanx boarders too. The storms are the only really original idea. I get girly liked to improve things but leave that to the fluff, not the game
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Is anyone else sitting on their BaC boxes and waiting for the Weekender before picking a Legion? I'm pretty sure I want to do Imperial Fists, but if Alpharius gets a badass model...Alpha Legion might move to the front of the list. Same with the rules for BA or DA.

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