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What army can take the most power/force weapons?

Bonus points if it's actually viable on the table for that army to do so.

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>>47646566
first for the greater good

>>47646605
Well Grey Knights of course. Every model basically sports some kind of force weapon.

>white
Totalitarianism, racism, fascism
>green
The weak are meat for the strong to eat
>red
Anarchy
>blue
Progress devoid of morality
>black
Every noir detective, or the entirety of Watchmen

White is controlling. Green thrives on purging the week. Blue will do anything in the pursuit of knowledge. Red can be overly chaotic and impulsive. Black isn't afraid to do anything to win.

>>47646349
Black can also do the "Sacred Darkness" thing and put the living dead back to calmness.

>>47620698
Figure it has something to do with Shintoism. If there are spirits for just about everything, the spirits of the forest and nature would just fall under that same category and role that deals with them

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>>47620698
Japan favors Shintoism, which is somewhat animistic, and naturally respects nature and the natural world in that religion.

Their Clerics are already druids, and most examples of ascetics that live in the natural world to draw inspiration and power from it wind up looking like Martial Artists instead of Religious Magicians.

Western druidism was viewed as contrasting to clerics and such because of the association with christianity and the like vs pagan faiths the likes of which were native to Europe before the church started getting too big for the roman empires.

Or I dunno, maybe they have another name for tree-hugging animal loving eco terrorists and aren't fond of the notion because ass-hats like that keep getting in the way of their whaling industry.

I'm sure someone can do better guesswork than this though.

>>47620698
The reasons for this are actually usually more mechanical then thematic.
"Pet" Druids wouldn't work to well in older JRPG's where party composition and encounter balance was based off a set number of PC's in the party, usually 3 or 4. And since Summoners were usually their own thing in Final Fantasy, that left that role out as well.
Healing and buffing Druids is the other role they could play, but that role is traditionally taken by Priest and White Mage types; the more "nature" magic that is utilitarian in nature again runs into simple mechanical limitations in early JRPG's.

Finally, it must be said that Final Fantasy is a ridiculously heavy influence on JRPG's the way Super Mario Brothers is an influence in side-scrolling and platform games and Street Fighter is on fighting games.
Though different classes of sorts were used in Final Fantasy games, they never really included a Druid-style class for the mentioned mechanical reasons.
You'll note lots of MMO-style JRPG's tend to heavily make usage of classes with similar or near-identical names to traditional Final Fantasy classes for example.

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Most of our forces have been occupied on other fronts and the defence of Eyerdar has fallen to our allies and the local militias. The Spirelords have unleashed new automatons, walkers and a mighty doomship from their main base of operations in the former NPU. Many of the disgruntled citizens of that nation - the first to fall due to its disarmament after the Great War - have willingly submitted to the Spirelords and the strongest among them have joined the ranks of their army as humans clad in armor, leading the machines that are being built.
In a short period of time the enemy has crushed all resistance ahead of them and taken a lot of territory. They began by destroying the great city of New Millport and their advance has since then continued ever eastward. They've built smaller, more mobile warfleets and are also using submarines to disrupt transportation across the world's oceans.
With the other fronts taken care of, we must direct our attention to Eyerdar now. Propose a plan of action - currently most of our troops are deployed in Ocras, recovering from the high casualties they suffered in Operation Dustwater.

>>47645762
We've got to lure in the doom ship and seize it!
To do so i propose we lure it on the coast where we will have support from our fleet.
We will use a trjan horse of sort, an inflatable false doomship or so but with a wooden frame.
when the shit will be lure in, we will proceed to fire a nuke above it so that it will disable the shield and lot of electronics due to the EMP as well as giving it downward momuntum and therefore forcing it to crash.
We will then use very competent fighting force to board the doomship and eleminate any resistance while our mechnized infantry deal with the troops they deployed after the crash.

also need an operation name give me your ideas!

>>47645900
Operation fire rises

are we still on the spess hulk?

>>47644328
I live!!

>>47644401
>...with us inside of it. Now what?

Wizards

>>47643326
This.
Alternatively: 1 Wizard, 1 Archivist and 1 Erudite. Congratulations, you have access to everything.

just play shadow over mystara

>>47641274
Neither.

Give them an easier entry into the hobby with Risus, Everyone Is John, or a D&D Basic retroclone.

Between the two 5E. 5E is also the most newby friendly D&D edition.

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5e.
>>47641331
Or you may indeed try simpler non-D&D system, like pdf related

>>47639785
Blue is actually terrible by itself. Mono-blue cant do jack shit about most things once they hit the field. It's the support color.

>>47639785
They weren't early on, and by the time they started thinking it was already 'defined' so they were screwed. If they decided to give, I dunno, fucking green draw or bounce, people would throw a fit.

>le blue is OP meme XDDDD

This hasn't been true for over a decade.

Blue is complete garbage these days.

>>47635489
My last group was:
Gnome Wizard
Elf Paladin
Troll Berserker
Satyr Rogue
Giant Cleric

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>>47635489

>>47635593
From media, rather than those made for roleplaying games.

From books, television shows, movies, video games, whatever.

>>47633512
i am on the same boat ma friend

First of all it is important to remember that just because /tg/ says that a game sucks does not always mean that /tg/ hates the game. If the people on /tg/ refused to play any of the games that they said sucked, then they would never play an RPG again. As for your question, pathfinder, like a lot of games, becomes grossly unbalanced as soon as some asshole attempts to exploit the system or optimize. As long as you are playing in a good group, it should not be a major problem. Also, there are plenty of other games that are unbalanced like pathfinder, but since pathfinder is the most succeseful, that is the one people talk about.

It's not a bad game. It's just that it triggers three anons who need to shitpost about it at every available opportunity.

Just ignore them.

>>47632672
>Nerfing guns
>Not buffing swords
RULES OF NATURE

Same reason fighters exist when you could be a Wizard

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Guns are DISHONARABRU.

>>47632119
Why would you want to do that? Fantasy games are all about being the big hero guys, aren't they? Why would you want to be a dirt farmer?
It's be like running a game of V:tM, but no one gets to be a vampire. They have to be Dave the accountant.

>>47632161
No, they can be heroes. But I'd rather the players had to work to separate themselves from the group, not just be able to easily beat almost every non-magical stock NPC in the MM from level 1. To me, the players should start out marginally above average and become competent and experienced by the end of the campaign, not start out as Spider-Man and end up as God.

>>47632119
Listen to your father.
>>47632161
No.

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I'm hoping /tg/ can help me with something.

So, in my setting when the humans started to spread out from notAfrica and mess with everything the elves did as elves do and fucked off to their island refuge by ship. Said refuge is located in a large sea/small ocean centralized between notEurope, notAfrica and notAsia.

What I'm trying to decide is how far away to make these islands from the continental shores to make them, if not necessarily unreachable by, at least relatively isolated from humans with late-Iron-Age/early-Medieval shipping technology.

>>47628385
I think you can't with a sea of that size. Think about the distances Polynesians were able to cross.

You know the Saint Helena? The place where Napoleon was exiled after the Hundred Days campaign? More or less a similar distance.

Ah sweet, this is back!

>>47626919
I say we communicate with Belial.
Because, well, we're trying to be good neighbors/friends here.

>>47626976
Yeah, let's try and keep it friendly.

And nice to see this back!

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>>47626919
Man I had to reread a few threads to catch myself up for today I have been waiting a while.

Our will is 30, right? As a max.

>Talk with Belial? Sleep more?
Talk with Belial. Maybe she has some more intel.

And now...as it has been a while. Here is some brand new advantages/disadvantages! This took several times to comb over and recategorize, so let me know if things feel too off, or if I am missing items. I also added BF, D.Y.N.A.C.A.T and Nyaraya because I figure they will be crucial to have their bonuses for. Also Anon's defense stats leave me confused. But I am sure we can suss it out.

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>>47626237
What are the stats for a standup comedian.

>inb4 max Constitution because he stands up all day

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Literally the "Murderhobo" class

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>>47626237
Depends on how they're executed. They could be luck-based, they could be annoying, or they could just rely on the imagery a lot. That's before you start getting into "killer clown" territory.

Ultimately, the jester is usually about catching people off-guard one way or another. They shouldn't be all gimmicks, though. There should still be a real person under all those colors.