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ADB recently revealed something interesting about Abaddon's relationship with the Chaos Gods.

Abaddon refuses to submit to the Chaos Gods. He takes their powers ans blessings but he uses them for his own ends, not the Chaos Gods glory or desire. That's why the religious sorts in the traitor legions hate him. They view him as seeing himself equal, treating the Chaos Gods as business partners not as superior beings to be worshiped. However, there is a consequence to this. As long as Abaddon doesn't submit to them and give them what they want, the Chaos Gods will not allow Abaddon to seize his ultimate victory.

What the Chaos Gods want is the destruction of mankind and dissolution of the galaxy into the ocean of the Warp. This runs counter to what Abaddon wanta. Abaddon seeks to rule mankind, not destroy it. He wants to reforged the ruins of Imperium into his Dark Imperium. If Abaddon manages to do that, then he will no longer have any need for the Chaos Gods. He will cut them off and rule the humanity as he sees fit. The Chaos Gods will be back to square one with a another jerkoff Emperor denying them the galaxy.

So that means that the Chaos Gods and Abaddon are at an impasse. Their ultimate goals run counter to each other and both sides will not allow the other seize what they desire. Abaddon needs the gods, and the gods need Abaddon. Despite all the pressure they put on Abaddon's soul, despite all the champions they seized to challenge, and all the threats and cajoling, Abaddon will not relent. The Chaos Gods both admire and hate Abaddon for his defiance. As the 13th Black Crusade marches forth and the Time of Ending begins, there has to be a final reckoning between man and god.

So this raises a few questions.
1-Why do the Chaos Gods desire the destruction of mankind and the annihilation of the galaxy?
2-How will the Dark Imperium be different than the Imperium as it is now?
3-How will the deadlock between Abaddon and the Chaos Gods be solved?

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So what DOESN'T /tg/ consider edgy?

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I've been a lurker on this board for years, and I love almost every part of it (except tabletop wargaming, I don't know how you people put up with a game where you have to use a tape measure to play.)
The thing is, I've never been able to play a tabletop roleplaying game. I just don't have the creativity to come up with a whole other person to be, and figure out what they'd do in the various situations that arise over the course of a session.
I don't want to waste anyone's time being a one-dimensional murderhobo PC, or a railroading GM who can't improvise in response to the players' actions to save their life (or campaign), so I just don't bother
Is there any hope for me? Can I learn to be more creative than a brick or should I just steer clear of roleplaying for good?

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I've never seen a version of D&D where choice of armour is actually meaningful. You always go for the heaviest your class can wear unless you have some specific ability to get a bonus for wearing lighter armour.

There's no real choice there, there's basically always an optimal choice and as time goes on a few armour types remain relevant while the rest go unused.

The question is, how could you fix that?

I've heard some suggestions of just removing Armour choice altogether, making it a function of class since you always end up with the same stuff anyway, so why pretend otherwise?

On the other hand, I think it could be interesting to try and make armour a more meaningful choice, to actually make choosing your mundane armour matter in its own right.

A basic idea would be trying to make everything on each Armour tier (Light/Heavy, or Light/Medium/Heavy) roughly equivalent. Even if some have higher AC than others, the other armour available has alternate benefits and bonuses to even up the difference.

What do you think /tg/? How would you do it? How'd you tier armour and what benefits would you assign to the various types?

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Justin Gross is best Arthas edition.

Discuss the lore and viability of Warcraft as a tabletop setting.

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How do we fix the Goblin race?

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How to use Tactical Shooting to run a Christmas adventure.

Question #1: Who is Santa going to kill this year?

Question #2: What is your favorite Sourcebook (official or unofficial), and why?

Question #3: What is your most disliked race in any given genre?

Answer or not it's Christmas after all!

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Official Kill Team rules in the image, Heralds of Ruin rules bellow:

http://heralds-of-ruin.blogspot.com/

You know the drill. Now tell me which do you prefer, the official or the HoR version ?

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World Building v2: Electric Boogaloo

In this thread lets try fleshing out the world a little more.

Things that are roughly agreed on

---World in general ---
-Magic, by and large, is done through rituals, spirit binding, and one use magic fetishes. Humans cannot directly use magic except in very, very rare individuals.
-Technology is roughly late bronze age, early iron age.
-There was an ancient war with dragons before recorded history, it was around this time that giants and behemoths started appearing.
-----Giants---------
-Giants are born into communities. The greater the population, the greater chance of giants being born into it. (minimum is around 100 people)
-Roughly 25-40 feet tall. (Big enough to hold a normal human in their hand, but small enough to walk in city streets. )
- Can be considered roughly Half spirit, half flesh and blood creature.
-Every single one can wield magic innately, though this manifests in various ways.
---- Behemoths----
-Behemoths are creatures of nature, born when the environment is in danger or nature itself feels threatened.
-Every Behemoth is wholly unique, though may have traits that can be shared between the beasts. Most are aggressive.
-The most common of foes for giants.

---Dragons----
-Very little is known about dragons, except that they are the most challenging foes Giants can face.
-Often considered wholly outside the dynamic of the ecosystem and nature as a whole. Alien even.


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Short story that convey's the mood of the setting.
http://pastebin.com/TEY4PtET

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>The super polite, kinda wimpy cleric that always heals and buffs the party gets serious
>You didn't know they worshipped a war god
>You didn't know they had Righteous Might prepared

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'Sup /tg/, I'm going to be DM'ing for the first time today and I was wondering what kind of ambient music you guys used (if any) or if you have any tips or whatever for playing music and sound. Setting is semi-dark fantasy and a lot of the campaign will take place in a volcanic hellhole, if that helps

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Guilliman dreadnought knight when? Edition.

>Previous thread
>>50923800

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>ForeverDM
>The only way to play is to have a DMPC
>Make a bunch with different personalities and allow the players to hang with whichever ones they like instead of forcing one on the party. Win-win in my mind
>one DMPC managed to roll 3 16s, a 17, 15, and 12
>He’s an elf fighter-barbarian-bard hybrid with expertise in persuasion.
>Level 12
>+11 to seduce all the ladies, which he does whenever possible because he’s a fucking ELF BARD
>Seduces random village lasses with ease and even has success with more resistant NPCs
>Player complains
>”That NPC is a gary stu”
>”He’s not an NPC, he’s a PC”
>”Let me clarify, DMPC”
>Like just the word DMPC alone is enough to condemn this elf bard for being an elf bard
>Said player has a character (which I hate but treat fairly because I’m not a shitter) that has, through roleplaying, luck, magic, and alien technology, broken the 20 cap on like 4 stats and has a sword of sharpness, and has passed up a Lucky Sword that turned out to be able to grant wishes (that he incidentally gave to said DMPC)
>Calls my PC a gary stu for having 16s in physical stats and expertise in banging hot chicks

The DMPCs GET OUT REEEEEE meme needs to stop.

It’s not even remotely hard to have a DMPC that plays just as fairly as the PCs. All you have to do is not metagame and not display favoritism towards your PC. It’s laughably easy to write characters who don’t have a clue what the fuck is going on, and as for favoritism, one of my DMPCs was reduced to 0 hp 6 times in a single dungeon because I have monsters choose targets at random (or if someone does massive damage to them, that person) specifically to avoid ANY form of favoritism.

I’ve been able to play as an actual player since the beginning of that campaign, so I’ve seen other DMs do shit at DMPCs and I’ve seen players metagame to hell and back because they can’t help it, but that means those people are bad at that particular aspect of gaming, not that the concept itself is broken.

Am I wrong?

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Why did he do it bros?

The madman actually went and did it.

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Are we sure they aren't daemons?

Why don't they get more love?