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>>51961319
Make stupid irrational tactical decisions, and put yourself in a situation in which he'd need some hard fiat to get you out.

Alternatively, you could be an adult, and talk to him about retiring the character. Not all adventurers die horribly.

>>51961319
Drop your trousers and piss on the King.

>>51961319
>Alternatively, you could be an adult, and talk to him about retiring the character. Not all adventurers die horribly.

You can't YOU CANT YOU CANT FUCK YOU UOU FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER CUNT SHIT PISS FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

>>51961153
You mean was Fëanor's autism the reason Melkor wanted to steal from him?

>>51961153
The Silmarillion? Oh yes, definitely. I found it unreadable as a kid.

>>51963127
> as a kid
well then.

>>51959569
Do you think the Chaos gods secretly despise Lorgar like everyone else does?

>>51959654

> "Hey Nurgle, Lorgar is praying again."
> "Eww."

>>51959654
Nah. I'm sure Khorne openly hates his fey ass.

>>51959479

A) Fire/Ice>Feast/Famine>War/Peace>Body/Mind>Light/Shadow

B) Ravine>Colonnade>Tar Pit>Wildwood>Lavaclaw

C) Vent>Quagmire>Falls>Fumarole>Spires

D) Kolaghan's>Atarka's>Dromoka's>Ojutai's>Silumgar's

E) Prime>Sun>Grave>Inferno>Frost

F) Bluehulk>Greenhulk>Blackhulk>Whitehulk>Redhulk

G) Garruk>Jace>Liliana>Ajani>Chandra

H) Daretti>Teferi>Freyalise>Nahiri>Ob

I) Jace>Nissa>Kytheon>Liliana>Chandra

fire/ice>feast/famine>light/shadow>war/peace>body/mind
colonnade>all others
fumarole>all others
kolaghans>dromoka>atarka>ojutai>silumgar
primetime>sun>grave>inferno>frost
torrential>verd>cata>noxious>combustible
jace>vess>garruk>ajani>chandra
daretti>teferi>nahiri>freyalise>ob
jace>lili>nissa>kytheon>chandra

>>51959479
Fire/Ice > Body/Mind = Feast/Famine > Light/Shadow > War/Peace

Colonnade >> Ravine > Tar Pit >> Wildwood = Lavaclaw

Wandering Fumarole > Shambling Vent > Hissing Quagmire >= Lumbering Falls > Needle Spires

Atarka's = Kolaghans > Dromoka's = Ojutai's >> Silumgar's

Primeval Titan >> Sun Titan > Inferno Titan > Grave Titan = Frost Titan

Torrential = Verdurous > Noxious >> Cataclysmic = Combustible

Gook > Ajani = Liliana > Jace >> Chandra

Daretti >= Teferi > Nahiri = Freyalise > Ob

Baby Jace >> Liliana >= Nissa > Kytheon >>>>> Chandra

r8 and h8

>>51958598
I feel like Pillars of Eternity handled the system pretty well, but I can't think of any others

http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Attribute

>>51958598

You would have to have very generic Attributes that can be used by characters of different archetypes (i.e. warriors, rangers, thieves, mages, sorcerers, healers, etc.).

>Health (Points)
>Special (Points)
>Damage
>Defense
>Luck (Crit/Evade Bonus Chance)

>>51958789
I think some games use that but it is too generic for me. I just want something a little better than D&D where 6 strength and 15 strength have no difference for a Wizard character. But no system is going to be perfect.

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>>51958581
If you like "The d20 System, but not" sorta systems, look into Open Legend or Fantasy Craft. Both have all sorts of special augmentations and effects that get baked into normal attacks.

In Fantasy Craft's feat system you specialize in weapon categories, and feats grant special stances and attack tricks on top of static bonuses. On top of that, the differences between weapon types is less stratified so with a simple staff or dagger you can still be quite a threat.

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>>51958581
>>51959087
In Open Legend RPG, which is free/'open source', there is a system of Banes and Boons that encapsulates positive and negative effects you can impart, whether through banal or extraordinary means.

There are a lot of compelling options there that wouldn't be hard to do for a dedicated fighter sort of character.
Additionally, any time your attack beats their defense by 10 or more you can apply a Bane that uses the attacking attribute (and of a power level up to the attackers rating in it) for free. Each weapon has banes their more effective with, lowering the stat prerequisite, and with a feat you could lower that to 5.

Open Legend is a bit different from the 'normal' d20 System formula, though. Stats add dice to rolls rather than flat numbers, all dice can explode, and the damage actually dealt is the difference between the roll and target.

It also has an Apocalypse World sort of way of handling failed rolls where something interesting is always meant to happen, with this as a more structured option: if you miss an attack you can inflict 3 damage, a bane, or force them to move 10 feet. But, what you're attacking can do the same to you.

What you're asking for isn't really possible. The problem is rooted in how bad the default actions in 3.PF are.

Basically everything that isn't directly attacking someone isn't worth doing, because it's unlikely to work and more likely to just get you hurt instead. You have to invest a lot of feats in it to make it even halfway good and even then it's generally not worth it.

But without a resource mechanic, classes can only operate on the same level as those default actions.

Casting classes get more powerful effects because those actions are limited, as opposed to the default actions you can take. The Tome of Battle/Path of War stuff gives martial classes a resource mechanic (with a handy built in justification if you care about that) that allows them to take actions beyond the defaults and makes playing them actually fun.

But to fix it without giving martial classes a resource mechanic you'd need to massively increase the effectiveness of the default actions. Giving every martial character every feat related to trip/sunder/bull rush etc by default would be a patch, but you'd not get a real solution without completely reworking the fundamental combat system, and at that point you're making an entirely new game.

When plotting a new arc or session try to take into account the PCs trouble AND other aspects that could complicate things. I remember reading one piece of advice for Fate was to take an aspect from each character and make an adventure that includes them all.
PCs can self compel, if they act in accordance with their aspects, especially if they make the story more complicated to resolve, you can retroactively reward them, without formalizing the compel.
If the PCs have to be smooth and suave at a soiree, but you want to give them a compel, but none of their troubles seem appropriate examine their aspects for implicit or explicit complications. Say the guy with the Last Good Cop aspect is compelled to go help out a waitress being hassled by a lech, or he see's a criminal in attendance and he can't resist giving the guy the evil eye and casting aspersions on his good name in front of his socialite buddies or any of a number of things.
Pick an aspect that might prevent things going smoothly, make the option fun or entertaining and demonstrative of who that character is, and build upon them in the future so you have ready made plot-hooks or compels waiting in the wings.

>>51958397
thanks anon

It's too bad, but self-compels aren't a thing this campaign. One of my players feels like self-compels are cheesey and since the other players are new they aren't really good with the system and follow that players lead on that regard.

>>51957863
Have a list of the PC's aspects in front of you at all times, but especially when setting up your scene, choose one appropriate aspect from each player to focus on, and see if you can hit it during the scene with a compel, tick the ones that you use and cross the ones that you successfully compelled.
In some scenes you're only going to want to try to compel one or two players, you don't want to overcomplicate your story, but I probably wouldn't suggest only compelling the character with the least Fate points because you might create a self-fuelling spot-light stealing machine if they're spending and regaining their Fate faster than anyone else.

>>51957072
I really just want people posting more Draph art.

I still want to FUCK Iomedae! A brave mortal with a prestige class won't satisfy my lusts!

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Have you made your preparations for the End yet, /pfg/?

>>51956704
Are you this guy? >>51952332

>>51956769
Yes, I figured maybe he'd have a better chance of seeing it if I threw it in the OP Also MaRo is hot ;) no homo

>>51956498
Can't kill/10

>>51956498
A fucking alien /10

>>51956498
OP, therefore homosexual.

Thread question because OP dropped the ball:
Assuming we don't get a Mystic UA any time soon, what other UAs would you like to see?

>>51956410
How many times can you forget

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>>51955882
I fucked it up the last time I did it....

>>51955948
Heeeell no. If I'm building a deck specifically to be flavorful, that takes precedence over being good enough to win.

>>51955948
>If you have a card that would work wonders in a deck but contradicts the flavor of said deck, would you include it?
Never. Flavor decks are made for flavor.

>>51955948

>If you have a card that would work wonders in a deck but contradicts the flavor of said deck, would you include it?

Yes, I include Phyrexian praetors in my sisay deck, devoted enemy of the phyrexians

Why is everyone so damn obsessed with anime girls and waifus?

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>>51954829
Trip code for the haters

>>51954829
pawn to d5

>>51955028
c4

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>>51955384