/box/

First for Lil G

Mayweather would have beat Golovkin at 154

Am I the only one who scored the 11th for Golovkin? I thought it was his cleanest round since round 7.

Avni Yildirim is gonna beat Eubank tbqh

Beat the shit out of Degale in sparring

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Is there a more JUST race that Slavs?

>Kovalev = HYPEJOB (rekt by a blown up SMW)
>Shabranskyy = HYPEJOB (rekt by a 60 year old cuban refugee)
>Lomachenko = HYPEJOB (lost to a literal uber driver)
>Vitali Klitschko = HYPEJOB (rekt by a senile Lennox Lewis)
>Wladimir Klitschko = HYPEJOB (humiliated by a fat gypsy and rekt by a bodybuilder)
>Postol = HYPEJOB (humiliated by Crawford)
>GGG = HYPEJOB (drew with Floyd Mayweathers left overs)

The absolute STATE of Eastern European """""""""""Fighters""""""""""""

>>78325459
I did too. I have to be really generous to give Canelo more than two or three rounds. GGG dictated nearly the whole fight in reality

So how salty is /box/ today?

fuck spics

>>78325485
Go back to /heem/

Result aside, I enjoyed the fight, but the level of skill on display seemed to be lower than in Ward vs Kovalev and will undoubtedly be vastly overshadowed by Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux. Neither GGG nor Canelo are top P4P fighters

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>GGG couldn't convincingly beat Canelo, somebody who Floyd toyed with at the age of 36, despite GGG having every physical advantage
>You now realise that Floyd would have 12-0'd GGG

ALL WORK IS WHAT

>>78325485
The UK + Ireland is unironically a superior boxing region to the Eastern Bloc and yet no one gets all excited about that. Too many beta white Americans worship Slavs for some reason

Corrupt fucking spics
If he hadn't been so terribly poor, canela gets the decision

Is boxing finally dead? Will all judges be female in the future?

>>78325485
You forgot Khytrov getting BTFO, and that Russian boy getting sparked by Indongo.

why the fuck was a woman a judge for a male fight?

>Women are such brainlets they cant even score a fight

>>78325727
Khytrov knocked that guy out recently

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>>78325735
got a problem, male chauvinist pig?

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Almost called it lads.

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easy money

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>>78325805
cartels threatened her

Anyone got any contact info for Adelaide Byrd? I want to send some death threats

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Lil G can't bust a grape anymore, throws them loopy punches and his face was all fucked up after the fight. Got outboxed by a guy with cancer lol.

Cabnelo looked like he was running track, goofy duracell cunt gets out of breath climbing stairs. Got rocked by Kneeguel Cotto's retarded laundromat working cousin.

Both got EXPOSED as shithouses.

Both should be removed from P4P.

Both should rematch each other at a Kentucky bingo hall.

This was really disgusting man, this fight had the chance to bring boxing back, and they killed the sport and robbed a man of his career defining win at almost 36

>>78325922
118-110 is a distraction because it was so wide, a scapegoat for the corruption. It wasn't 114-114 either Golovkin won comfortably

Joshua vs Wilder is now a bigger fight than Canelo vs Golovkin 2

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>>78325984

>his career defining win was a JMW
>his career defining win was Floyd Mayweathers left overs
>still came up short

what do stephen a smith and max kellerman say about the fight?

>>78326100
LOUD NOISES

>>78326100

Max Kellerman thought it was close and who gives a fuck about what Stephen A Smith thinks.

>>78326055

>Canelo vs GGG 1
>big fight

LOL. Will be surprised if it hits 1 million buys

>>78326099
>celebrating an obvious disgrace as 'exposing' GGG
Your a fucking loser

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Look I was cognizant of where the fight was being held and who was behind each fighter. I watched it closely, and although in my heart Golovkin did win, I made sure to give every round that could be considered "close" to Canelo and ended up with a draw. In a sense I'm pretty okay with the result, and excited about a rematch as long as it doesn't take place in Vegas (one of the most fan-unfriendly places to hold a fight)

>>78326161
It will have done 1 million I think there was a decent buzz more than Canelo vs Cotto and loads of Mexicans would have bought it

>>78325894
jelly

>>78325984
I wanted GGG to get that lineal title. It doesn't sit well knowing that cyclist Canelo, and Golden Boy by extension, get to carry it for another 8+ months.

Based BJS came back with the W

Gypsy masterrace

>>78325894
Shrewd

>>78326190

>Your a

How mad are you right now, Britbong?

>>78326100
Kellerman claimed Golovkin not wildly trying to KO canela was a win for canela, even though Golovkin also won off establishing his jab against Lemiux. Meanwhile canela walking backwards and doing fuck all was worthy of praise because he's such a special fighter
That jew contradicts himself too much. I suppose it's better than risk his job by pointing out the obvious theft
Reminds me of Lennox Lewis clearly winning from his jab and getting robbed vs Holyfield

>>78325678
>Too many beta white Americans worship Slavs for some reason
i blame Rocky IV

Ward would have legit stopped GGG tbqh

>>78326483
but ggg wasnt as dominating as usual it was easy for canelo to get him to backup and at the ropes he exposed golovkin

>>78326963
Yeah no chance Golovkin could beat Ward at 168 2 years ago or now

Confirmed I will never pay for anything boxing related again. I will even make sure I buy my next parif of gloves of a thailandaise brand or something.

That is how mad I am. Are u mad guys?

>>78326794
tyson himself said he don't know of he could win against a klitschko brother why can't box acknowledge the klitschkos greatness?

>>78326003
Exactly. Makes people think she is just genuinely retarded and not corrupt

>>78327126
giving canelo a slight edge is def reasonable

you guys shouldnt make strong statements if youve only seen the fight once

>>78326975
>canelo got ggg to back up to the ropes
what fight did you watch? ginge spic was on the ropes getting walked down most of the fight

>>78327252
nah I'm saying that when canelo was at the ropes it was easier to get golovkin to back up to the middle, golovkin was way more cautious than usually

>>78327068
LOL you actually believe this! Sad!

if a rematch happens It shouldn't take place in north america 2bh

Why was Canelo wearing Winning gloves? They looked massive. Did he drop Everlast?

>>78325485
Lol Aussie talking shit, name me 3 good Aussies ever and even just name me 3 good white boxers today that aren't slavs or Hispanic. Go home, ggg won and slavs are the best boxers today.

>>78327492
bjs, tyson fury

>>78327080
He was just being humble; I doubt any top tier boxer doesn't think he couldn't beat anyone at any given time.

>>78327382
>golovkin was more cautious than usual
>this means he won the fight for casuals
Sad thing is this is how they actually think

>>78327492
Gypsy materrace

>>78327600
canelo gets points for dodging punches dont you know

>>78327492
Frampton, Groves and Burnett

>slavs are the best boxers today.

Black Americans are the best and Hispanics second. It will always be this way

Canelo won. But a draw is acceptable

>>78327754
This

Canelo should have got the nod

Fuck lil G

>>78327600
I didnt even say that my point is that golovkin walking him down didn't mean that much

>>78327754
>>78327771
>on the ropes, gassed, running away
>won

>>78327809
It does mean something, it's ring generalship. Golovkin dictated the terms of engagement the whole fight. Canelo barely touched centre ring in the middle rounds

Do you guys consider Canelo to be hispanic?

In pro boxing, damage dealt is more important than clean punches landed, so if Fighter A lands one punch with 100% force and Fighter B lands three punches with 50% force each, Fighter B wins the exchange despite his half blocked punches being less eye-catching than Fighter A's clean punch

>>78327852
>le running away
Canelo ran circles around him and boxed his face off which is what you're supposed to do with a stronger opponent. He also neutralized most G's punches with his GREAT defence. I had Canelo win the first 4 and last 3 rounds

>>78328005
GGG dealt more damage
canelo landed a handful of big flashy punches but not nearly enough

people probably giving him entire rounds for landing 1 bomb when he spent the rest of the time walking backwords, being outworked and defending

>>78328005
Sounds good and reasonable - in theory

Would judging be better if they averaged out the three judges scores in each round rather than just counting up the three totals at the end? In this case it would have been 7-5 for GGG and the horrendous Byrd card would have been overruled by the other two

>>78328038
>On the ropes for 9 rounds eating jabs and hooks
>Ran circles around him

>>78328038
t. retard

>>78328038
See, these are why Canelo fan's are fucking retarded. They say this shit, but when Lara did it, he was "scared" and "running the whole fight".
Fucking brainlets, i swear.
The Damage Control is unreal today.

>>78328313
lol

I dont know what fight you cucks watched but Canelo won that match. I gave him the slight margin for the win since he was connecting shots and was slipping most of Golovkin's hard shots.

There were points in the fight where Golovkin was hitting air, while Canelo was countering beautifully. There were parts were Golovkin was gaining momentum but Canelo out boxed him.

This was crisp boxing vs brawler-boxer. Most casuals only saw all the punches GGG threw but most didnt land at anything significant.

I just woke up and I'm still fucking heated about this shit.

what a great fucking boxing match buds forgot what it felt like

let's all be happy for a moment to appreciate it because despite the draw shit was so cash

>>78328488
>canelo won
youre a legitimate cuck

>>78328133
That would just average out to a Canelo win smart guy.

Moretti had it 113-115 (7-5), Trella had it 114-114 (6-6), and Byrd had it 118-110 (2-10).
Average them out and you get 115-113 (7-5) in favor of Canelo -- in other words it gives WAY too much power to the outlier judge in every case. Even if Trella gave one more round to Golovkin, it would still average out to a Canelo win.

I think the decision we got was fair enough, and changing the system to that would mean terrible judges like Byrd affect the system more than they should have.
Golovkin fans are pretending like because there was one bad score card that the decision is null and void, but I think Canelo edged it out.

>>78328560
have to agree with this.
I'm salty about the draw but the fight was great.

>>78328435
>canelo running away

Mayweather runs away. what Canelo did is NOTHING like what he does. nigga sit down

>>78326235
I live in a spic area. Other fights it would be fiesta all night. Last night was as dead as shit.

this match only made me hate Gayweather even more. fucking nigger legit made me forget what boxing was

>>78328435
this was nothing like the Lara fight and you don't know shit about boxing

>>78328632
must be nice
no one really cares about boxing here :/

not unless AJ is sparking out some balkan bouncer

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Reddit is having a complete meltdown, and you some you tried to convince us that Canelo was Reddit's boy.

>>78328684
everyone is having a meltdown because that was the biggest bullshit decision of all time

>>78325824
this would've been the outcome if canelo had been remotely competitive

>>78328651
obviously a greek roach wouldn't have any reading comprehension.
you say you're supposed to run when you're facing a power punch, yet this was how the spic cheats backed up their robbery, by saying Lara ran. Tighten up, greaseball.

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>>78328712
>t. salty redditor

For the record, I dont think it was a bullshit decision. I just think it was a bad fight and both fighters went down a peg to me. Both seems gassed after 6 rounds and the match seemed like a broken record.

>>78328780
>For the record, I dont think it was a bullshit decision
confirmed idiot, stopped reading here

>>78328780
Somehow the worst post about the fight I've seen so far.

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>>78328684
>>78328763
>Oh canelo is going to expose GGG!
>Haha look at these GGG fanboys angry that he got robbed!!
You absolute loser top kek

>>78328712
the only bullshit was the first judge score. the draw is acceptable

nigga you're just mad that the person you put money on didn't make you money.

>>78328859
This was a clearer win that the Jacobs fight mate, what are you talking about

>the contrarians are warming up with their hot takes 12hrs after the fight

how predictable

well at least I can learn from this experience

I'll still stay up for NY fight nights but I don't see myself watching another vegas fight for a long time unless its a sure fire KO fight

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>>78328851
I was wondering when I was going to see that.
We were all wrong, but that doesn't mean I cant make fun of the salty Golovkin fans/Redditors.

>>78328859
i didnt bet on it, loser. i have never bet on sports.

also who the fuck are you, adelaide byrd? how in any way was that fight a draw?

GGG won by 2-3 rounds tbqh in my humble opinion

>>78328819
GgG was not impressive at all.
>backs canelo into corner
>jabs, canelo counters
>walk him to new corner

Repeat x12. Shit fight. Paquiao Horn was a much better fight.

>>78328859
>the draw is acceptable
Not really. Golovkin scored with the jab all night. You can't win by defensive boxing when you're only defensive flashes come in ten second bursts once per round while you spend the rest of the round taking jabs straight up the middle to the nose. Give me a break.

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>cucked boxing fans
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>78328749
Obviously a mulatto burger wouldn't know the difference between running away from your opponent and running around your opponent while lighting him up.

>>78328932
why'd she do it, bros?

>>78328843
Everyone is focues on 118-110, but the other judge called it a draw. It was probably your first boxig match. Watch a few more and you will umderstand

>>78328932
>a person who wears glasses should judge a boxing fight

fuck boxing.

116-112 GGG is the only logical conclusion. 115-113 is arguable but come the fuck on.

>>78328907
>W-we were all wrong, look at this salt
You were wrong, we were spot on with GGG winning and getting robbed by corrupt judges, that you faggots were saying were paranoid conspiracy theories.

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>>78328498
Same

Is this Hagler-Leonard 2.0?
There are a lot of similarities between the two here, only here Canelo didn't get the decision (It would have been horribly ironic if Sanchez or GGG objected to Dave Moretti for past Canelo bias only to have him be the judge to score in favor of him just like in Hagler Leonard).

>>78328894
Nice blog fagget

>>78328949
de la hoya gave her money and cartels threatened her

>>78328953
nice b8

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>Golden Boy Promotions in association with Tecate and HBO Pay-Per-View, is proud to present World Championship Boxing on My 5th 2018, with BAD BLOOD, at the T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas

>Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (49-1-2) will make his long awaited return to the ring against the big hitting contender Martin Murray (36-4-1) in a battle for Middleweight supremacy!

>'This is the fight the fans wanted to see!' says Golden Boy CEO Oscar De La Hoya, 'you're guaranteed for a great fight, this one is for the fans!'

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>>78328932
STOP STOP

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>>78328971
Oh really?
I could have sworn Michael Buffer announced a draw.

Stay bitter, we all lost money on the result, but only I get the consolation prize of soaking up your tears.

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>>78328038
>boxed his face off

What?

>>78328953

Because 118-110 dictated the decision. Had she had a more realistic card, even if it had Canelo still winning, it's a draw or slight edge out for GGG.

I just rewatched it. I thought GGG won handily the first time, but it seemed more even on the second close watch where I could pause.

Canelo gets the better hits, but he hits almost 30% less and is only very slightly more accurate (31% vs 33%).

While Canelo had the bigger shots, they also didn't seem to hurt GGG much. Canelo was actually the one who seemed more hurt.

I don't know how you call it for Canelo still in many of those 10-2 rounds on the deciding card. Seems fucking ridiculous.

Its a nice casual filter now. people thinking GGG won you know now are 16 or new to boxing

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Speechless

>>78329103
T. Chi

>>78329072
>I just rewatched it. I thought GGG won handily the first time, but it seemed more even on the second close watch where I could pause.
Same, but i still think GGG won the fight. I'm definitely not so disappointed in the draw now, but the Byrd bitch was still out of pocket for that score.

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>>78329039

>>78329072
I honestely think it was 115-113, but leave it up to judges with a medicore performance and who the fuck knows the outcome. People should be mad at the fighters today and not the judges.

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Reminder that there are people that bet money on GGG

>>78329125
a virgin canelo """""""""""""""""""""power""""""""""""""""""""""" punch is less effective than a chad ggg jab

>this pathetic chicano weeb
Fuck off back to your shitskin homeland you disgusting degenerate

>>78329169
>a swede laughing at anyone else
time for prayers yet?

>>78328038

GGG landed 50 more punches and dictated the fight. He was only slightly less accurate.

The cognitive dissonance is unreal. Every sports writer is calling it either a farce, or literally reporting it as a draw or GGG win in the headlines and then saying in the story "one retarded broad ruined it BTW."

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>>78329169
i have to eat out of the fucking garbage thanks to this result

>>78329034
Everyone knows who won the fight, you can pretend the judges were fair all you want

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The hatred expressed towards Adelaide Byrd shows how far this misogynistic patriarchy still has to go before we have true equality.

>>78329247
$9 ? Jesus your a little piccer shit. Why waste your time. It would cost me that much gas in my lambo

if you think ggg got robbed, back it up by showing experts athletes or whoever saying ggg shouldve won

>>78329247
>nine quid
How will bong anon ever recover?

>>78329286
yeh wish i'd bet more now...

obviously not you fucking spacker

>>78328488

This is the problem with boxing. People score on slips. Slips are to avoid damage and set up counters.

A good slip looks nice, but if it doesn't result in you landing more or better punches in the fight, it doesn't matter.

GGG was basically as accurate as Canelo and Canelo failed to slip 218 times. When he did get good hits in, GGG took them better than Canelo took GGGs. No way it's Canelo's fight.

>>78329291
go on twitter you fucking nitwit

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>>78329119
>Pink judge scoring round 7 for Canelo

So how many dicks did Oscar have to suck to pull a decision for his cash cow?

>>78329312
you do it for me

>>78329217
>insulting the lord and his prophet in 2017

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>>78329291

Anons, help me out.

I bet a friend of a friend $100 that GGG wins, even odds.

Ended up using the cash during the fights buying drinks, so I told him I'd pay him later...

But, do I really have to pay out on a fight Canelo didn't win. If Byrd had just had Canelo winning an at least slightly plausible 2 more rounds, we'd be fine, but I am losing because she scored 10-2 which is fucking ridiculous.

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>mfw result was announced but I didn't have any money on the fight anyway

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>>78329261
I don't have to pretend anything, average out the scorecards and you get a Canelo win.
Better luck on the rematch, Golovkin will probably need a walking cane and prescription glasses by then.

>>78329379
Depends on how much of a cunt your friend is.

>>78329379
the reasonable thing to do is to keep your money because it was a "draw"

>>78328595
I explained it badly. If two judges give a round to Fighter A and the other to Fighter B, then it would be a 2-1 round win for Fighter A. With this method, GGG wins 7-5 and the crazy rounds that Byrd gave to Canelo but the other two gave to GGG would be overruled

>>78329338
this is how liberals reason. "you do the research/ i dont care, google it/ look it up"

What a terrible night for boxing
Any chances that the 118-110 was review by any commission?

*gets hit flush with a right hand*

*shakes head*

>>78329467
Not a chance, they didn't even overturn Pacquiao-Marquez 1 where the judge that scored it a draw only subtracted points for 2 knockdowns in round 1 instead of 3 -- and that was just an objectively judging error.
Meanwhile this had a bad scorecard, but can be argued in favor of Canelo regardless, so certainly not the worst decision ever.

>>78329416
Yes, 118-110 Canelo, clearly a legitimate score for the fight.
I'm happy to have been right, and that Golovkin showed he's the real deal, you can delude yourself however you want

>OMG MCGREGOR IS GONNA KILL FLOYD MANLETWEATHER HAHAHA YEAH LETS GO
>Gets outboxed, people get mad

>LOOOOOL NO WAY PUSSY BITCH KEKNELO WILL STAND MORE THAN 3 ROUNDS TO (ALPHA) TRIPLE G AM I RIGHT POLACKS?? DEUS VULT
>Canelo slips away beautifully from almost every power punch, counters, gets GGG desperate amd makes him look bad overall

REEEEEEE KEK WILLS IT
hahhahhhah what nice month

>>78329467
Best case scenario they fire Byrd and order an immediate rematch. Scores are never overturned

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>>78329564
Oh, i'm sorry, but who is it who doesn't have the win over Canelo and thus will be forgotten by history?
I'll give you a hint: it's your favorite mediocre middleweight champ!

>>78329348
all literally whos

>>78329603
>spic damage control
lol gotta love it

>>78329617

Kind of don't even want a rematch because that's exactly what Oscar and Golden Boy wanted

Would like GGG to decimate Saunders in Kazakhstan and retire undefeated

>>78329691
DEUS VULT BRETHEN,........ KEK WILLS IT FELLOW POLACK............

>>78329291
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759281

>>78325367

Honestely I can see how some people would think it was close based on how you might score it. Oscar De La Hoya had it 115-113 Canelo, which to me is the edge of outliers but you can at least make an argument.

But there is no way to score this fight that gets Canelo to winning 10 rounds. Absolutely no Fucking way.

>>78329722
I feel the same I am just disgusted about Oscar and all his tricks

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yeah, fuck boxing. this women judge fucking stuff up and it being rigged for years is enough for me. rip

>>78325678
Kek this delusion. Where's your +30 win guy with 30 KO's and no losses cuck?

>>78327660
Effective Defence is a scoring criteria, you collosal fuckwit. Absorbing shots with your face like Golovkin is not

>>78325367
>Canelo fags saying "hurr he hardly looked damaged
>eyes literally starting to swell

Top kek. Is there anyone more delusional than Canelo fags?

>>78329722
>>78329818
Agreed, have GGG fight Saunders, Canelo and Oscar can go kick rocks. Have him fight Jacobs, I don't give a fuck.

>>78329870
No, apparently

>http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/en/contact-us
Let's send all our thoughts about how the fight went and how they fixed it

REEEEEEEEEEEE MEXICAN ROACHES................

>>78329309
It does. Making your opponent miss is effective defence. Effective defence is a scoring criteria. Blocking shots with your chin like lil g is not

Could you maybe make the case for Canelo for maybe "Ring Generalship"? Like maybe he set the pace and controlled the ring the entire fight and that was why he got scored 10 rounds by Byrd?

>>78329825
>an American who worships Russians calling anyone else a cuck

>>78329899
yeh mate im sure GBP will be absolutely devastated to hear that some 'chon posters were unhappy with the outcome of the fight

>>78329936
He got trapped on the ropes for 9 rounds.
No kek

>>78329932
Except GGG reduced Canelo's workrate to nothing with a simple backstep. Caught a lot of stuff on his gloves too

>>78329936
are you kidding? golovkin was clearly the winner in ring generalship throughout the fight

>>78329936
Fuck no. GGG controlled when and where exchanges took place for 90% of the bout

>>78329936
Most (nearly all) of Canelo's success was in the middle of the ring, but GGG took that away from him. GGG controlled the real estate in most of the rounds.

Would about the Figure Skating judging argument.

Like maybe the judges see their workouts and sparring and previous fights and are taking this fight into account comparing it to those as well. Like how if a skater strays from their routing in practice they may dock points. Maybe they did that with GGG?

>>78330034
Lol what

>>78330034
haha

>>78329103
You are in a very small minority if you think Canelo won kek. Most media scored it golovkin, overwhelming popular opinion is that golovkin got robbed. Only delusional spics think Canelo won that fight at all

>>78330034
hahahahahahahhhaha FUCKING MEXICAN ROACHES....................

>>78329938
Oh so you don't have that guy then lmao

>w-we're the best!!
>p-please pay attention to our island!!!

God my sides

>>78325638
He did beat Canelo though, the "draw" is for show, it means Byrd was a stupid cunt, nothing more.

>>78330034
If you're implying Byrd wrote the card before watching the fight I agree with you there

>>78330107
Joshua has a 100% KO rate you fool

>>78330163

Fighting drunken shopkeepers. He is truly a Bong to be feared.

>>78325678
brit boxers are overrated to high heavens

anthony joshua is the only boxer that is in the top 3 of his division

>>78329125
Now post the one with jabs so you can look like an idiot.

>>78330163
>19 wins

Once again, where's your +30 win guy with +30 KO's? Once Joshua is on that level maybe Americans will care

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The fight was clearly called wrong. Do you guys think it was actually corruption or just sheer incompetence?

>118-110

My vote is for incompetence. If it was simple corruption, she would've called it 115-114 or some shit. That bitch needs to be fired. Even the most inattentive and uninformed judge could tell you that GGG dominated that fight.

Canelo won rounds 1, 2, and 12. That's it.

>>78330267
doesn't mean anything

you could feed joshua 10 more cans ala wilder and it wouldn't suddenly elevate him to a higher status

>>78329175
how comes he didnt KO Canelo then

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>>78330239
Compare our BoxRec top 20 to the Slavs' top 20s

Next to the USA and Mexico we are the best pro boxing nation

>>78330295

If a judge has been paid off, they can't maintain a tight scorecard for the whole fight because there might be multiple knockdowns in the last rounds

>>78330295

She gargled some ginger spic balls after the fight.

What did everybody score the rounds?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Canelo 10 10 9 9 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10
GGG 9 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 9 9 9

>>78330295
corruption without a shadow of doubt

>>78330320
canelo has a good chin and defence

>>78329932

I know, but that's not how I would like them to score it. It makes for more boring fights.

Anyhow, Canelo wasn't killing it on defense. GGG landed almost the same percentage of punches thrown and landed 48 more total...

How does he win on defense when he gets hit more, with basically the same rate of getting hit?

>>78330482
>6
>7

Hmm

>>78330545
canelo didn't get hit with much meaningful

>>78330295
Definitely incompetence.
Byrd is not an inconsistent judge, it's just that it's problematic because she has one scoring criteria. She scored Hopkins over Calzaghe, Brook over Porter, Spence over Brook, and Khan over Canelo and now Canelo over Golovkin.

The one common denominator there?
Crisp clean punching.

She ignores any rougher work and always goes for that fighter that looks sharper with their punches. Sometimes this is the right call, other times, not so much, but it's a problem when that's your ONLY scoring criteria.

>>78330326
my top 10 from this would be:

golovkin
lomachenko
usyk
kovalev
joshua
gassiev
lebedev
gvozdyk
frampton
degale
bivol

Unlimited - Joshua
200 lbs - Bellew
175 lbs - Yarde (Smith could also move up)
168 lbs - Groves
160 lbs - Saunders
154 lbs - Williams
147 lbs - Brook
140 lbs - Taylor
135 lbs - Flanagan
130 lbs - Walsh (or Frampton could move up)
126 lbs - Frampton (or Selby)
122 lbs - G. McDonnell
118 lbs - Burnett
115 lbs - K. Yafai
112 lbs - A. Selby
108 lbs - N/A
105 lbs - N/A

Now pick the best of each division for any other nation and match them against that. Only possibly the USA could beat us

>>78330545
because they are counting punches that only grazed him

i.e. he takes the sting out of most of golovkin's punches by slipping, but the compubox guys will still count them as landed

>>78330482
GGG Canelo
10 1 9
9 2 10
9 3 10
10 4 9
10 5 9
10 6 9
10 7 9
10 8 9
10 9 9
9 10 10
10 11 9
9 12 10

116 - 112

Hopefully now people will realize why most Americans hate slimy spics so much.

>>78330326
christ Ukraine really is super deep

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What did he mean by this?

>>78326100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGuFOYz9iuE

>>78330730
Unlimited is Dubois senpai

>>78330730
Only Joshua and maybe Groves are #1 of their respective divisions from that list

>>78330361
Good point. There needs to be harsher punishment for this kind of shit. You can't play with people's careers like that. As punishment, her career should be over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJwfCtKbOWs

She's going to get a slap on the wrist and have no real consequences, and this shit is just gonna happen again. I wish some glorious madman would just start siccing himself on people like this. Hope she gets mugged and the shit beaten out of her. She deserves it.

>>78330326
Not really dude, you guys kind of suck

>>78325454
Can he even make 154 w/o looking like a zombie?

>>78330701
I refuse to believe that that's her intentional "criteria". I think she is just blind and only sees that the crisp punches landed.

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Quick reminder that because Golovkin managed a draw, he got a points boost on boxrec and Canelo lost points, bringing Golovkin up to #4 P4P and putting Canelo 4 points in range of Crawford.

Also quick reminder, that Canelo only has so many points because he got the MD against the GOAT (Or the GOAT according to Boxrec ratings).

>>78330776
i love that smith's trunks say autism

makes me laugh every time

>>78330582

Neither did GGG. Dude blocked every shot with his iron chin.

I feel like Canelo should lose points for throwing a massive hook right into GGG, and having it do fuck all with GGG just moving forward right through it.

Dude hits like a bitch.

>>78330730
UK vs USA

Unlimited - Joshua vs Wilder - UK win
200 lbs - Bellew vs Tabiti - USA win
175 lbs - Smith vs Ward - USA win
168 lbs - Groves vs Benavidez - UK win
160 lbs - Saunders vs Jacobs - USA win
154 lbs - Williams vs Charlo - USA win
147 lbs - Brook vs Spence - USA win
140 lbs - Taylor vs Crawford - USA win
135 lbs - Flanagan vs Garcia - USA win
130 lbs - Frampton vs Cherry - UK win
126 lbs - Selby vs Russell Jr - USA win
122 lbs - G. McDonnell vs Magdaleno - USA win
118 lbs - Burnett vs Negrete - UK win
115 lbs - K. Yafai vs Warren - UK win
112 lbs - A. Selby vs Viloria - USA win
108 lbs - NC
105 lbs - NC

UK 5 - 10 USA

>>78326305
Tell him to quit running from Jacobs.

>>78330903

That's not shooped?

so how badly do groves and eubank beat smith?

>>78330907
but canelo actually had him off balance like no opponemt before

>>78330806
Yeah but with so many nations competing it's extremely difficult to achieve that position. We are still better than almost everyone else

>>78331054
Deflecting a punch, not actually hit him

>>78331050
Brant will beat him in the semis before we find out

>>78331049
nah

it's a lovely comedic sparkle

>>78331021
>130 lbs - Frampton vs Cherry - UK win

Forgot Tank Davis somehow. Make that 11 wins for the USA

>>78331093
think brant can beat braehmer?

>>78329119

I rewatched the fight, just like how some of you have. I ended up scoring it 115 to 113, exactly as Blue Judge did actually.

That basically means 7 rounds for GGG to 5 rounds for Canelo. While GGG was consistently strong throughout, Canelo had these momentary bursts that IMHO did put him over in the early and late rounds. I felt GGG clearly dominated the middle of the fight, for sure.

But the point is just a difference in opinion in 1 round in favour of Canelo really could have justified a draw. Then I looked at the Pink Judge's card.

>Round 7 for Canelo

Even the crazy White Judge, who's clearly taking bribes or was threatened by the mob or something, who gave Canelo the insane 118 score, even she scored Round 7 for GGG.

Seriously, this is an insane scorecard.

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>>78331130

>>78325686
Beaners are the new niggers

>>78331155
Yeah the judges scores are highly fucking suspect and golden boy should seriously be investigated. Boxing needs a governing body fucking asap if they want to be taken seriously again

>>78331049
>He doesn't main Autism as his top /box/ /myboy/
Straight plebing

>>78331140
Yeah, he's the only boxer in the SMW tourney with decent feet

>>78325963
The state of this hipster nigger.

>>78331155
you could give r6 and r9 to canelo but definitely not 7

>>78331093

Literally nobody knows anything about that guy

>>78330730
(Starred ones we're #1 Worldwide in)
Unlimited - Wilder
200 lbs - Tabiti
175 lbs - Ward
168 lbs - Benavidez (Not sure about this one)
160 lbs - Jacobs
154 lbs - Charlo/Hurd
147 lbs - Thurman (Spence if you like being wrong)
140 lbs - Crawford
135 lbs - Easter Jr.
130 lbs - Davis
126 lbs - Russell Jr.
122 lbs - Magdaleno (Though Rigo has said he considers himself American so... )
118 lbs - Warren
115 and below - N/A because we're not a country of super manlets.

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Niggers fear the Autist.

>>78326219
>I made sure to give every round that could be considered "close" to Canelo and ended up with a draw
Why do people do this?
Give the round to whoever won it, whether it is close or not.
Fucking hell

>>78330730
Cuba
Unlimited-Ortiz
200 lbs-Mike Perez
175 lbs-Sullivan Barrera or Julio César La Cruz
168 lbs- N/A
160 lbs- N/A
154 lbs- Erislandy Lara
147 lbs-Yordenis Ugas
140 lbs-Rances Barthelemy
135 lbs-N/A
130 lbs-Yuriorkis Gamboa
126 lbs-Rigo
122 lbs-Rigo
118 lbs-N/A

I don't follow the amateurs closely but this is insane for a country of like 10 mil

>>78331251
Fuck the star symbol didn't appear.
Well I starred:
175, 147, 140 and 135.

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Lads I'm sick and tired of boxing letting us down like this.

There's only one promoter left in boxing in my opinion, and that's Eddie Hearn and Matchroom. I won't watch anything else from now on, only Matchroom boxing and Sky Sports will be the sole provider of my boxing experience.

Reasonably priced PPV's? Call Eddie. Fair judging? Call Eddie. Competitive evenly balanced match-ups? Call Eddie.

Thank you based Matchroom, Sky Sports Box Office and Eddie Hearn for saving boxing.

>>78331251
Yeah the USA kicks our arse. I doubt anyone else beats us though, the Mexicans and Japanese are too confined to the manlet divisions

>>78331155
Worst thing is that even the blue judge is a corrupt motherfucker aswell, a quick google will show some of his past scoring. I honestly think they are all just corrupt.

>>78331021
>130 lbs - Frampton vs Cherry - UK win
Is Cherry really better than Farmer or Tank?

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>>78331293
>Competitive evenly balanced match-ups? Call Eddie.

What did he mean by this?

Am I the only one who watches boxing while high? My perception gets skewed (like thinking GGG looked sick in the corner and was going to lose in a bad way) but fuck me if it isn't beautiful. I think it was ninth when they were grinding their heads together and started going at it, almost brought me to tears.

Im a casual btw

>>78331272
Even crazier is that there are only 44 active Cuban pros in the whole sport, so their success rate is incredible. The UK by comparison has just over 1,000

If the Cuban amateur team all turned pro then within a few years they'd have champions in most divisions and would probably occupy half of the P4P list

>>78331354
No I fucked up because I was using BoxRec to jog my memory and Tank and Farmer didn't appear in the rankings for some reason

>>78331371
i really like it but at the same time i forget what happened afterwards

i watched joshua klitschko high and forgot about the knockdowns lol

>>78331371
I'm always coked up for vegas fights because they're on at stupid o clock over here

doesn't make for objective scoring but it's hype as fuck

>>78330266
You do realize this is not amateur boxing, where poking your opponent with jabs is enough to get points, right?

>>78331383

Until they discover cheeseburgers

Only reason they're disciplined is because the government keeps them in line

>>78331383
I feel like every country would go anti-cuban style though.
It would be a similar move to heavyweights in the 90's and 80's developing styles that shut down the stick and move type of boxing Ali popularized.

>>78331269
so I could mirror how the judges perceived the fight. I thought I made it obvious in my post

>>78330701

Oh, thx for this insight on Byrd's scoring based on crisp clean hits.

I guess Canelo's much more conservative but slightly more accurate punching style fit her. Plus he was very defensive and denied GGG many clean hits, that is a way to account for Effective Defense.

That's an interesting point.

Why do boxers have such shit conditioning??

I get macgoober wasnt a true boxer, but he did boxer training for a year and looked more gassed than he ever had in an MMA fight, and Canelo (who has been a boxer since 16) looked exactly the same....

Every fight I have ever seen the enitre last 3rd of the fight the guys look like they can barely keep their hands up, its the equivalent of an NFL team jogging half speed through all the plays in the 4th because theyre too tired. If their going to play rigged borehug anyways the least the can fucking do is show up in shape. I'm actually never buying another ppv again

>>78331594
stick to baseball, fucking retard.

>>78331594
they have phenomenal condition

they're just having to expend a shit tonne of energy at certain point to avoid being exposed

>>78331594
>Canelo (who has been a boxer since 16) looked exactly the same....
(you)

>>78331594
I think they fight too many soft touches and don't get used to going the distance. You have to sacrifice a lot of strength and technique training time to get your conditioning right, so if Canelo had a better gas tank it might come at the expense of some of his skills and strength and maybe he doesn't feel the trade-off is worth it

>>78331082
This. And he fixed it immediately. Honestly this fight just proves that Golovkin isn't just a cause crusher, but somebody who can go 12 rounds with someone "elite" like Canelo

BTW was Canelo crying in the post fight interview?

>>78331594
I know this is bait but
>t. never even stepped into a ring let alone sparred anyone
always so easy to notice

>>78327252
>getting walked down
Confirmed for not knowing shit about boxing. He didn't "walk down" a fucking thing. He was chasing Canelo all night. He never forced Saul to the ropes and he didn't even attempt to cut off the ring and trap him in the corner. Canelo volunteered to fight off the ropes and hit Golovkin with sharp, hard counters. As soon as he wanted to disengage he would simply pivot and walk backwards to another corner and GGG had no answer for this.
Golovkin has no inside fighting game and his body punching is suspect. He has a blind spot for uppercuts and can't do simple stuff like CUT OFF THE RING. He at least knew that Canelo was setting traps for him off the ropes but didn't have the courage to dig to the body and take his legs away for fear that he'd eat a counter that he wouldn't be ready for. He was obsessed with head hunting against a guy who could actually handle his power and fire back with his own power shots. He gave Canelo way too much respect and put it in the judges hands. He fought to not lose and in the end he didn't win.

>>78331679
the fuck are you talking about spic, he cut the ring off the whole fucking fight and trapped Canelo into the corner/ropes on numerous occasions.
Stop making shit up to fit your narrative, beaner.

>>78331628
ok, so, literally every fucking sport ever? Basketball players have to expend a shit ton of enegery on defense all game, in the 4th quarter in winning time they dont stand around with their hands on thier hips. and basketball players play 40 mins a night. borehug is 36....

Was anyone watching the AceStream of the event? Was it lagging like crazy for you all up until the first round, when it suddenly went to the HBO telecast lag-free? What was up with that?

>Basketball players have to expend a shit ton of enegery on defense all game

lol

>>78331594
Swinging a punch is hardwork. Doing it 300 times and walking around and changing positioning is also tough. I agree that after round 6 he was gassed and i wonder why boxers never prepare for this by training or mailing in the first 3 rounds

>>78328435
I had Lara winning that fight but whatever.

>>78331762
you've never played sports in your life. If you think a basketball player is putting half the effort in as a boxer is during a round you're delusional. Basketball is played in spurts, they're not playing 100% every play. This is especially true for defense.

>>78331679
he definitely can cut off the ring we've seen him do it many times

he didn't go to the body against canelo because he's too slow IMO, he was quite gun shy this fight

I think golovkin got a big shock in the first round by how powerful canelo is and somewhat shelled up

Now that the dust has settled how do you rate the match?

Me its 5/10 .

A decent fight but i can name 5 better fights this year. A let down consideting the hype

>>78331762
combat sports are the most physically demanding activities possible

Hi guys, boxlite here, who should I excited for? Really only have my eye on Oct 14, might call off work and make a day out of it

>>78328601
Mayweather, unlike Canelo, actually earns respect and backs bigger fighters up. So you're right, it's nothing like what he does.

>>78331862

6

Canelo is mostly to blame for being on his bike and lying on the ropes

>>78331762
a lapse in basketball won't lead to the very real possibility of you getting knocked the fuck out

>>78331336

I don't doubt it, at this point I'm thinking it's just random chance we happened to score it the same.

I almost feel flipping a coin for each round might be more accurate than this judging system.

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>>78331825

What is this "defense" of which you speak?

>>78331862
7

I was thoroughly engaged

>>78331594
>looked more gassed than he ever had in an MMA fight
He looked just as gassed as he did in the Diaz fights, that's the only reason the Mayweather fight even happened. Floyd did his homework and knew Conor couldn't get away from him the way he did in the middle of Diaz II when he was trying to rest.

>>78331862
I never expected it to be a slugfest so I was happy with it and engrossed the whole time. A solid 8 for me, bumped up from a 7 due to the low amount of holding or fouling

Joshua vs Klitschko is still the stand-out fight of the year

>>78331862
8 i really enjoyed it except for the nagging feeling of impending robbery

>>78330779
Can someone gas that kike already? Christ he's awful.

Thoughts on Jamie Cox?

Reminds me of Calzaghe

Honestly you know it's bad when the head of the Nevada commission came out to defend the judge immediately after the match before most of the media could even get official reactions in.

>>78332053

Can we all agree that the Diaz brothers should be taken out in the desert and executed?

Danny Jacobs and his wife react to the Golovkin vs Canelo scores - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvggfTw1JdQ

>>78332166
Too small for super middleweight, Groves will beat him

>>78331762
>its a /sp/artan confirmed for never playing sports thread again

>>78332166
A dirty bum

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YOU KNOW WHAT, JIM?

>>78332201
tbf i had jacobs winning his fight against ggg

>>78331862
8/10
Scorecard made it a literal 1/10

>>78332276

>>78332284
Yeah maybe that is why i scored it so low (5/10). The score card , while i try to ignore it, ruined the match.

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>>78331869

Nah, just one of. This dude is unironically world record holder for hugest balls of any athlete.

Shit is mentally and physically taxing too.

>>78331862
6 ignoring the scorecard it was an enjoyable fight but only caught fire in brief moments

>>78332276
So did I. But GGG definitely beat Canelo

>>78327754
This was how i scored it. Obviously the adelaide byrd card was retarded. I dont believe it was a crooked card because a crooked card would have at least try to appear close. This was a judge who was mesmerized by canelo flahy shots and effectively dodging most of ggg offence.

I was watching the box nation stream and i thought they were giving ggg too much credit in that they said his work was effective at hurting canelo and saying canelos punches were not hurting gg. I dont think either fighter hurt the other. A draw to me was a fair result.

The fans wanted the fight to be a action packed fight and they blame canelo for basicaly boxing ggg for the entire 12 rds. This explains the booing.

I want to see the rematch. If canelo can up his work rate i think he could win convincingly. He had multiple opportunities to counter ggg but decided to keep his hands in a defensive posture.

CANELO IS THE BEST BOXER EVER WHO IS NOT NAMED JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ. NOW LET US EAT THE TACOS AND BURRITOS. OLE!

>>78332489

The guys on Boxnation were incredibly biased towards GGG. Whenever Canelo went for a combination, they'd marvel at GGG's chin instead of acknowledging that Canelo had just landed three unanswered punches

>>78325367
What a way to show me boxing is corrupt

>>78332602
They scored GGG vs Jacobs to Jacobs

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>MFW last night solidifies that Boxing belongs on /asp/ with Mandrama
>Both are overhype
>Both are predetermined and scripted
>Both fight on the same environment, a squared circled ring with ropes
>The fighters hardly "hurt" each other and act hurt when they get hit

>>78331730
Stop shitting up /box/ with your bullshit maricón. A guy can't run all night and be trapped at the same time you trailer trash cousin fucker. Go back to /heem/ and fuck off forever.

>>78332707
didn't the greatest mma ever fighter lose the other week to a 40 year old retiree?

>>78331730
Canelo was confortable in the ropes.He wasn't trapped.Golovkin just shoot kitty jabs and missed all his powershots while Canelo was countering him with powershots.Canelo was confortable in the ropes as GGG did nothing of substance there